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Introducing Dame DC Cordova
Todays guest on the Join Up Dots business coaching podcast interview is Dame DC Cordova.
Coming originally from the South American country of Chile, Dame DC Cordova, has set out on a path to not only create her dream life, but also to help the world find theirs too!
As the founder of “Money & You®,” and other successful financial platforms she knows and shares how we can all develop systems that will accelerate the growth of our businesses.
And what she gives us is not just manuals full of structures and systems, but a complete mind-set shift, to believe that success is ours to have.
She can rewire us all to think like multi-millionaires.
How The Dots Joined Up For Dame DC
She has appeared on multiple movies, been quoted in hundreds of books, and appeared on radio and TV shows all over the world.
But how does a lady come from Chile, move to America, and create a platform of success that crosses the globe and effects students in over 65 countries?
How did Dame DC Cordova learn the skills for success that allude so many people?
And that is what I want to talk about today, how someone can think big, dream big and achieve big things, when so many others get stuck before even beginning?
Is it that she took chances that other people wouldn’t have taken, or simply that she was luckier than most?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only Dame DC Cordova
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Dame DC Cordova such as:
Why she gave up red meat, caffeine and alcohol in her 30’s and hasn’t looked back since (although she does still miss one….can you guess which?)
How she realized in her 20’s that although extremely successful she was also extremely depressed, so moved over to Hawaii to find herself.
How we must all define what success means to us, if we truly want to start working towards what we should get in life
How apathy is a killer of dreams and makes us stay in situations that really we need to get out off!
How she states that she has played everyday since her 20’s which has created a work life that is just amazing (much to the amusement of her mother)
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Audio Transcription Of Dame DC Cordova Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Hello World, how are we? How are you? All you Join Up Dots listeners? Are you ready for another rocking and rolling show? Well, I hope you are because this is Episode 188. And normally, I have a little chat beforehand. But today I’m going to steam straight into it because she is a lady who has got so many areas to touch on and discuss. Really, we need the full amount of time. Coming originally from the South American country of Chile, our guest has set out on a path to not only create her dream life, but also to help the world find ways to as the founder of money in you and our success, financial platforms. She knows and shares how we can all develop systems that will accelerate the growth of our businesses. And what she gives us is not just manuals for the structures and systems but a complete mindset shift. To believe that success is ours to have she can rewire us all to think like multi millionaires. She’s appeared on multiple movies being quoted in hundreds of books and appeared on radio and TV shows all over the world. But how does a lady come from Chile, move to America and create a platform of success that crosses the globe and affect students in over 65 countries? And how did today’s guest learn the skills for success, but allude to so many people. And that is what I want to talk about today how someone can think big, dream big and achieve big things, when so many others get stuck before even beginning is it that she took chances that most other people wouldn’t have taken? Or simply but she was luckier than most Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start joining up Dutch but one and only Dame DC Cordova How are you DC?
DC Cordova [2:04]
I’m fine. Thank you so much. That sounds really good. I want to listen to her.
David Ralph [2:08]
Yeah, I will. I will pre record it. And I’ll send it out to you because this is going to be a good one. You’re gonna like this guest as you say, because she’s fascinating. She has got areas that we it could be a nine parter. I think on this one we could go hour upon hour upon hour, because it is it’s a it’s a fascinating storey going from Chile, to America, and bank crossing the world as you have done, when you sort of reflect back, are you sort of surprised at what you’ve done? Or does it just seen so many small things, but you can’t really group them together?
DC Cordova [2:41]
It actually I am delighted. You know, I’m in my 60s now and, and I feel 25 like most people in their 60s do. And I really, I am very delighted that out of having so much sadness and pain. When I first got started as an adult in my life, I was able to turn it around. But it took a lot of hard work. And I’m just really grateful the word is grateful that it all turned out really well and that I’m able to really touch so many people. So gratefulness is a better word.
David Ralph [3:14]
when when when you were 25? Did you think 65 was going to be old? I go? Yeah, yes. Are you kind of surprised, but you’re 65?
DC Cordova [3:23]
Oh, I tell you what is so interesting is that I am so grateful. And my mother, I still have a mom, she’s 89. And but my mom says that say you know, when I enter my 60s, I didn’t look like you and an act like you I didn’t have the level of health that you have. And it’s really at the time that we’re living now, you know, I stopped drinking when I was 38. I always tell all my friends, my young friends, if you are under 40, you still have a few more years. But once you pass 40, you really do need to start taking care of yourself, because that’s when there was a shift that occurs. And I was wise enough to be around people that really knew the body and knew about health. And they, they just really advised me so I stopped eating red meat when I was 30. I stopped having caffeine when I was 36 alcohol at 38. And then just began to really understand the immune system. So I’m very, very youthful. You know, I still have 40 year olds chasing me around and I got realised how I am and they got this is a good time for you to be a cougar. And I said Well, not really. But thank you so much. And if it makes you feel so good. And he has to do with so much with how we feel inside because I have met people that were in their 90s. And they were so inspirational and so beautiful and so youthful. So it has to do with energy more than how your body looks.
David Ralph [4:47]
So so if I had lined up DC and I said there’s a bit of red meat there, there’s coffee, or there’s alcohol, which one would you miss the most?
DC Cordova [4:57]
Let me see, it would have to be Oh, gosh, such a good question. If I was to I probably alcohol, you know, it’s like, I was a good drinker. You know, and, and, and, and because it is so much part of our culture, you know, wherever you go, I mean people, because I’m so you know, silly and funny. And I’m always laughing most people don’t realise that I don’t drink, I always have a drink in my hand. It’s always, you know, some kind of Perrier or something. But people, I think assume that is something else. So some people are very surprised that I don’t drink. So it’s like, it’s a social thing. And that was the hardest thing about it. But then, after a while you it takes you most people don’t realise this. It takes you about two years to sober up, even though I wasn’t like a chronic alcoholic kind of person that had to go to the 12 steps or anything like that. It took two years after I quit drinking one morning almost to the day, One morning I woke up and I was completely so it’s it’s a lot of it has to do with vibration has to do with frequencies, which we it has been scientifically proven now that you you hold certain frequencies in your cells. And once those shifts, then your whole life shifts. And this is I mean, they’re I wish I had the technology that they now have the discoveries that they now have about cell cellular, about frequencies about the brain that they had when we first started in this business nearly 40 years ago. So this is not just me talking about you know, sounding like a California person. This is actually proven so it is ships and being sober is a trip is so much fun, because I get very, very high off of things that are that are so simple, a beautiful sunset, a beautiful sunrise, you know, a good cup of tea, a good conversation, you know, being with my sweetie, that is so much more of a high, but it does require for one to really train yourself to be in that way.
David Ralph [7:08]
Because I’ve kind of given up on alcohol or alcohol was given up on me, I just find that I drink such small amounts now, but it has a huge effect on me. And I used to sort of work up in the City of London, where it was a drinking culture and you would drink at lunchtime and you drink in the evening. And you kind of get used to it. And now I go out and I just have what I used to have in a lunchtime in an evening. I feel terrible for about two days afterwards. So it but it’s still about social thing, it’s kind of almost easier to say yes, I have a drink band not because when most people go Oh, you’re not drinking tonight, you driving, it’s it’s that social environment, but you kind of ingrained in.
DC Cordova [7:49]
And it also has to do with the choices that you make. I know this is women, I really don’t understand this. But mine had to do to with with I find that that alcohol gives you a lot of wrinkles. So at that time I was 38 years old. And I you know, at the thought of being 50 with a lot of wrinkles, and it actually worked I have very few wrinkles. And so you know it dries up many things, it’s not the best thing, the best thing for you to do is to just really look into it, study it research, I say this about everything, not just about alcohol, I say this about business and money, and children marriage, where you’re going to live, what research you’re going to do is like what choices that you’re going to make, and a lot of people make an educated choices that are so life changing. And that includes alcohol. I mean, I have friends that you know, drink a little bit of wine every day. And they are completely sober. They’re great people and they don’t have any challenges and very healthy. So it’s just a matter of being educated. This is at every area of your life. Never Never make decisions that are major when you are very emotional, when you’re upset, hurt, angry, or have just had the shock of your life, or have had the best use of your life. sober up emotionally, this is the key is to be sober, emotionally, and then you can make very clear decisions that will really affect your life. I mean, the dumbest decisions I have ever made in my life were under tremendous endorphins in my body or tremendous sadness, that were so heartbreaking, you know, and, and so that was a thing that I learned in my 30s and really instigated by the time in my 40s. And it has been one of the greatest secret to my success.
David Ralph [9:48]
So So if we take you back in time, which I like to do on Join Up Dots, and you have a small girl in Chile, obviously it’s a million miles away from where you are now. But what comments manatees are there between where you are and where you started on a similarities.
DC Cordova [10:05]
There were so very little, I grew up in a village in Santiago, Chile, everybody knew everybody you know that your when you needed a babysitter, you pretty much yell at the door and said, Who’s gonna take your body seated today? That was my little girl name. And it was like, like, somebody would yell and say she can stay with me tonight. You know, that was it. That was that’s how you arrange babysitters in San Diego in the 50s. And then when I was 12, my mother married a man that had been very wealthy but had lost everything. And the United States had a call for immigrants. So we went to Los Angeles in the early 60s. And I went into a neighbourhood that was so different, it couldn’t have been more different. And not only that, but the educational system in the United States is so different than chilis. But you know, I had graduated from sixth grade and I was getting ready to go into seventh grade and I had you could choose between whether I was going to learn French, English, or something else. I think it was Portuguese, and mathematics. So when they put me, we we came in the middle of the semester, they put me on the sixth grade, I thought I was with a bunch of third graders. And so immediately that was felt and there was no, the streets were so lonely. I still find that about the United States. I was just in Europe. And I was just in Croatia, you know, and, and the streets, the neighbourhoods with the kids outside and the people sitting in the front of the house is talking to neighbours. That’s how I grew up in the United States is a very, very I find it very lonely place. And then did you resent
David Ralph [11:45]
being pulled from Chile? Obviously, you didn’t have a choice as a child. But But
DC Cordova [11:49]
what I did, I did have a choice. I could stay with my auntie and my grandmother, but I don’t know. No, I wouldn’t have never left my mother. Yes, I did resent that very much. And the reason you call me DC My name is Tony Steve Carmen Cordova Michelle. I was from dodi’s I was called Doris. And I’m sure that every door is on the planet loves their name. I do. And I suffer with that name until I was 21. And my boyfriend at the time and best friend when they he says I’m giving you a new name because I know you hate your name. And that’s when I started being called DC. That was very traumatic for a 12 year old. So I made a lot of decisions very young because of that.
David Ralph [12:30]
And so obviously, you’ve become very, very successful. But the thing that I was surprised that when we we had a quick chat beforehand, was you became very successful early on in life, and then decided that you wanted more, it wasn’t the path you wanted. So if we can just focus on that first bit up to the age of 25. What what how did you get success? How did you channel your energies? You come from Chile, you’re in America, in a strange country, you’re in a strange education system. And it’s not really back long after you come out the education system that you’re already deciding, but you want to move on to something different. So what occurred where,
DC Cordova [13:07]
oh, pretty much I was a typical, you know, Los Angeles kid until I was 18. And I was madly in love with my best friend and he was killed a month before we were supposed to be married. And I that was in March, and I didn’t know that I was pregnant. So on his birthday on July 17, I was so devastated and I miscarriage the baby. And this I was still only 18 years old. And I was so devastated. So in my family. The way that we handle devastation is by working very hard. And so I became a workaholic. And I was a very successful a cheerleader, you know, and did lots of courses, I was going to grow up to be an interpreter in the United Nations because I had a vision that I was going to be in a big body of international people in look like Yun n. So I started taking languages. One thing led to another I began to work as an interpreter. I was an assistant legal secretary than an interpreter English and Spanish. And then I’d run into court reporting, fell in love with court reporting and found out that that was an amazing profession. And I was just sharp. I was just really smart. I had learned a lot from the from the business cases that I had seen. I had learned a lot from the immigrant. The my family had been surrounded by my stepfather had been wealthy in him and all his buddies used to meet every weekend and figure out how they were going to do businesses together. So I learned about leverage from them. When I was a teenager, and I ended up becoming a very successful court reporter. And then I was thinking about going to law school so that I could be an attorney. I was always thinking of how can I be more successful. But then the was a series of things that are hard in Los Angeles, I was working. Did you ever see the oj simpson case?
Unknown Speaker [15:06]
DC Cordova [15:08]
Every day they used to show a building. The criminal courts building is called CCP, I used to work in that building the same building that oj simpson got prosecuted in. And I used to like, Oh, my God is showing my building every day, you know, because I was I still love to watch cases like that. And, and, and I had a series of circumstances that occurred. And I realised that I was the most unhappy 25 year old yoga mat. And since I was going to be depressed anyway and sad. And it didn’t matter how much money I had, it didn’t matter how good looking I was how many boyfriends I had none of that, which is what really matters to you when you’re 25 I moved to Hawaii, and I decided to be depressingly beautiful place. And when I was in Hawaii, my next boyfriend was a gorgeous, gorgeous pilot. I had a yacht that was gorgeous. I learned how to be a sailor with him. And when I was 26 years old, in September, I had what is considered an enlightenment a, a an epiphany in by seeing some, some of the most beautiful sights Hanalei Bay, Hawaii, which I recommend if you haven’t been there to go there. And it is one of the most beautiful spots on earth and beauty heels. What a lot of people don’t realise is that beauty heels. And, and basically, I had an epiphany in my heart opened up again, my heart had been shut down for eight years, from the moment that I found out that my boyfriend had been killed. And then my baby had died. And then I had another miscarriage when I was 21, I had all these friends that had also passed on. And then I was just, I mean, the best rallies have a really good word. The word is beaten up, emotionally and life had not treated me well. I mean, I, I was so upset and so sad, and I didn’t know it. So when my heart opened up, I started the healing process. And for the first time, I began to see more clearly and decided to, okay, I know how to make money. I know how to build businesses, I know how to do these things. Let me go find something that I really love. And two years later, I’d run into the first business school for entrepreneurs of its kind, that combined some business principles and higher consciousness principles, personal development principles, fell in love with the work, ended up becoming a partner ended up owning it and been doing that for 35 years. So
David Ralph [17:49]
it’s one of those things that when when I hear your storey, obviously, it seems so simple that you you seem to go from one thing to the other, is always going to see some simple when it’s in a 15 minute sort of format of a show. But you taking very dramatic statements of intent, weren’t you? But you weren’t happy? You were very unhappy in Los Angeles. So you’re going to move to Hawaii? Why did you do that? Why did you just not move up the road? Why didn’t you get another job? Why? What did you feel that you had to go? And Hawaii’s thousands of miles away from America is really on his own, isn’t it?
DC Cordova [18:22]
Yes, oh, it’s not even America. But why is his own country really. I had been doing research. And this is something I really want people to know, follow the clues in your own heart. And in your own mind, there are so many things that we already know. But if they are not comfortable, or we don’t want to admit something to ourselves, we begin to lie to ourselves, or we begin to we don’t want to look at it. And this is a very big mistake that we can make as human beings. And I had been doing research, I already knew that I was very unhappy. And I can’t talk a lot about what really happened in Los Angeles. But I’ll give you a very fast overview. You know, I was in the criminal court system. And every day we were prosecuting people for creating crimes and for using drugs and prostitution and all these things. And I ended up with a group of policemen I was dating a policeman was my first time he took me out on a date and took me to a party. That was not an appropriate party because they were doing drugs. And I freaked out because I was a very kind of clean, I always have been my integrity has always been very high. And I knew that I had just joined the club that I should have never joined. By the way later in 1979, the LAPD did a huge, clearly they got caught and they did a huge cleaning of the LAPD the LAPD is one of the cleanest police departments in the whole world, probably, they’re very strict. And so all that got cleaned up. But the universe, the greatest spirit took me to this very intense place where my integrity was so compromised. And this is where a lot of human beings are in the presence of something that is so compromising their integrity. And sometimes it’s not an illegal thing. Sometimes it’s just a moral thing. But they justify in their heads. And they allow themselves to stay in the presence, or and or allow it to happen. Or they make a different decision the way that I did, which was I was literally running away. And I had done research in many different countries, including European countries, if I could be a court reporter there. And I was very I was at the top of my field, I had, I was a certified shown head reporter I was working in the criminal court system, which was very hard to get into making lots of money. So I could get a job anywhere. But I had been to Hawaii a couple of times on vacation and had fallen already in love with it. madly in love with Hawaii since I was 24 years old, and knew that I had to go there, but it was my destiny. It was my destiny. So there was a combination of being prepared or being ready, then there is your destiny. And then there’s luck. And I truly believe that it is a combination. And we get very lucky when we’re very good people, we follow good clues. And we also make the tough decisions, which a lot of human beings don’t want to make them. And that hurts us that that affects you for the rest of your life. So sometimes we do have to make tough decisions.
David Ralph [21:42]
Well, let’s play a speech now, which says a lot about what you’re talking about making tough decisions. And this is something we play generally, at this time of the show. So this is Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey [21:52]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice, instead of got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you
David Ralph [22:19]
know, I feel that you will connect to those words, would it be right?
DC Cordova [22:23]
Absolutely. And I love Jim Carrey. And I have friends of friends of his and he’s he’s a very enlightened human being very beautiful. Yes.
David Ralph [22:32]
What are those words mean to you, but you might as well take a chance on something you love.
DC Cordova [22:42]
You know, we, we may have future lives, we may have had past lives. But this is the only life we have any goes by very, very fast. I am in awe of how fast life goes. And the more that you advanced in age, the faster that he goes. So what kind of a life do you want to live? You know, 10 years are going to happen like that 30 years, they’re going to happen like that. And I’m very clear that I’m going to be 100 in a blink. So what how do you really want to live? And do you want to live a life of desperation, this whole those poems of that and movies on that? Or do you really want to live a life that that you’d really choose the present moment and and you know, like one of my sayings is, dude, really that this moment is the first moment of the rest of my life. And transformation only takes a second. You know, you can transform whatever it is that’s going on inside of you in a second. the tough part is then when the brain kicks in when the ego kicks in, and then you begin to get the reality of what it’s going to take for you to follow up with that decision. But the either you either going to take the easy road that turns into the hard road, and I truly believe that to be true, I’ve seen it so many times, or you take sometimes the tough road, which does turn into the easy road because it’s like in organisations a gentleman by the name of Edwards Deming, one of our mentors of all of our programmes, he says the toughest part of building any business organisation is the first 15%, the balance of 85% is going to be a piece of cake if you handle the first 15%. And that’s the same thing in life and in decisions that you make. So a lot of people who are not successful in their own eyes. And I truly believe that it is up to people to really get very clear on what success is to them, not to their spouses, not to their children, not to their family or best friends, but to them, then communicate that to your beloved, if there has been a big shift from when they met you. And begin to do research work on it. Don’t just jump into stuff, just be methodical about it. And then you will see that, yes, I have never met anyone that was successful in any area of their lives, including marriage, that hasn’t had to work hard at it. This whole thing about well, you know, I want it etc. And you know, I’m going to take them was comfortable way. That is I am worried that there’s a whole new generation in certain countries, not all countries. I will say the United States right now, that’s the only country I know that has it. as well. I would have to take your word for it. But I have to tell you the easy way. And and it’s scary because I don’t know what the world’s going to look like 20 years from now, when you have so many people taking the easy road.
David Ralph [25:59]
Why do you think that we because logically we know that nobody gets something easily, okay, your mom and dad might give you a load of money if you’re wealthy and stuff. But we see it time and time again. But the successful people, they get to the top. And then they released their autobiography, and we read the autobiography, and we just see but it was struggle, struggle, struggle, struggle. And Ben, I had a bit of luck. And when I had a bit of progress and many struggle, struggle, and they keep on going keep on going keep on going. But humans nowadays don’t really want to hear that storey we kind of want to go with the overnight success. But it’s you turn on a laptop, you make a web page, and then suddenly you sell it for, you know, a million dollars, whatever. Why do you think that we’ve gone against that work ethic somewhat?
DC Cordova [26:46]
Well, the thing is, number one, may I please just kind of redefine some of the words that you said. Because we have a programme called money in you where we teach people about that life is designed backwards, Fuller, one of our greatest mentors and people can Google him, they will be very impressed if they don’t know who he is. Buckminster Fuller taught us that the biggest mistake that that human beings make is making themselves wrong for making mistakes. We are designed to learn from mistakes. So it’s not so much at their struggles. It’s like we make mistakes, we pick ourselves up and we keep going, we make mistakes, pick ourselves up and keep going. What happens is that there, there is a lie in the space in the worldwide because I work in China a lot. I work in the last nearly 30 years in the Asia Pacific region. And a whole bunch of young Asians are getting the same tone. That what happens is that, like you said, you put up a page and all that most people become millionaires, most people, the large, large percentage become millionaires in the late 40s. And 50s. It is only the exception is a very tiny little number. That makes it huge, like you know, the, the young men with Facebook. So they get all the social media, the news, magazines, they really focus on that. And this is why I love your show. I love your show, because now you’re bringing in people that are sharing what they went through what really happened, and to hopefully touch your audience in some way that, hey, what’s happening to you is the human experience. There is nobody out there and some of the saddest people, some of the most amazingly, disconnected, sad people that I met on the planet have been very rich people. Because there’s nothing worse than working so hard, your whole life to reach seven certain level of success, and then find out that that didn’t make you happy. So I think people get confused about the conversation is like, Don’t worry, be happy. This is the only moment moment you have in your life. That is true. But then this the other side, which is to build your business, build your organisation, build your life, build your family, with sound principles, not only generalised principles, which is what runs nature runs humanity. And then sound business principles, like you know, tools, information, and the two of them will create a relatively very wonderful, prosper a successful life. And knowing that the storeys that you hear about, you know, the suburbs of the world is an exception, a very, very big exception. In if you just, you know, come down to earth and get that, then immediately, you’re going to get a lot happier.
David Ralph [29:57]
So So do you think that really everyone on Earth, if I designed it to be true, can have a kick ass life? Or at least a lot better? currently getting?
DC Cordova [30:09]
Yes, absolutely. And it starts with you. That’s why our programme is called money. And you a lot of a lot of times people say, Well, this programme was a lot about a lot more about you than about money as a Yeah, because you’re the one that’s creating the money. You’re the one that’s building the business, you’re the one that’s building your life, you’re the one that’s making the decision. So how clear are you, you are the CEO of your life. And so the way that the ego works, the way that the brain works is like it feels like everything is outside that is happening outside, and it’s happening to us. When you make the shift and get Wait a minute, I’m the director, I’m the CEO, this is my life, and I’m the one that’s going to suffer all the consequences. And, you know, when I was in criminal courts saw the bad consequences of decisions that people had made in a second, including killing people. You know, in those days, over 70% of the crime in those days of murders that occurred occurred, it actually was more like 80% occurred amongst people that love each other people that people that they loved each other, they were friends, they were you know, spouses, parents, and I, that’s when I began to learn about humanity. And I said, what, that’s insane. And it was like, one second, you can make the wrong decision, you cross that line. And when you cross that line, the consequences are forever, will treat your life like that every day. And the decision that you make to drive drunk, okay, or text while you’re driving, after all the all the information you have out there, and then something happens to you. That is the decision that you made. So they’re simple decisions, what movie you’re going to go see, we’re not talking about those, we’re talking about things that can truly affect your life and others in that you have to be a little bit serious about not, don’t be serious about stupid things. But be serious about things that really unlike change.
David Ralph [32:19]
Because that’s that’s the thing that scares people. And I know my listeners are coming to the show in their thousands, and they are looking for answers. They feel that there’s more for them to offer. I just did a coaching call just before we started recording. And I was speaking to this lady. And it was quite evident after talking to her for about 30 minutes what she should be doing in life, you know? And I was saying to her, why aren’t you doing it? I don’t know. I don’t know. And she just seemed to have all these excuses. But it seemed to me a clearly defined path that she was unwilling to step on. Once I actually started saying to this is what I think your first step should be. She was Yeah, I can do that. That’s no problem at all. This is what your second step and we started building momentum. But people are scared to make those decisions, but a life changing. It’s like they don’t want to lose what they’ve already got. So they’re not willing to take that risk, as Jim Carrey was saying, to actually progress to something that they love.
DC Cordova [33:19]
It does, because they give a fear too much power. I learned this a long time ago in a programme that I did. And somebody would say, I’m scare. And then we would all say so what it’s like, so what so do you get scared? Yeah, we all get scared. And you know, and it’s interesting, because there’s two kinds of fears. One of them is visceral, is the reptilian brain, you know, this part in the back of your head. You know, if I see something that’s moving like a snake, even though it rationally, there was no snakes in my apartment, but something moves like a little snake, I’m going to jump out of my skin because I don’t like snakes, right? So that’s like my reptilian mind. And you just take some deep breath and go, I just hallucinate it right? Then there are certain things that you know, that you should be afraid of. If you do something illegal, you might go to jail. It’s very simple. I don’t understand why people cheat on their taxes. They Internal Revenue Service has the best systems on the planet, they have access to all your information, why would you do something so stupid, like, like, cheat on your taxes? And because and take a risk, you will go to jail if you if you do that, you will go at least two to five years to jail. So now what what most people do? Is they kind of rationalise Well, I’m not going to get caught. Well, this is not going to be me. This is not No, no, no, no, no, no. Just be very aware that there are times when you have a fear that is very rational. And you have to abide by it and just say that’s true. Like my mother, we have a deal she’s gonna go before me that’s it’s a real clear deal. So sometimes I get invited to go on little aeroplanes, you know? And I don’t like little aeroplanes, I haven’t had several friends that I have never made it out a little aeroplanes. That’s just me, that’s just me. And, and I go, I’m sorry, I made a promise to my mother, I’m going to wait until after she goes, I can’t get into a little aeroplane. And this is a little Learjet, the Liam jets, I love. And it’s just a crazy thought. But you know what, I’m sorry, that is just my reality. And so I will meet them later or take a commercial aeroplane. And that’s my thing. That is my thing. And and, and so I just have a little fear of little aeroplanes. And I can deal with it, I can go to a whole bunch of work, it’s not worth my time. It’s not like I get invited everyday to go on a little aeroplane. So now, right? There is a kind of like a crazy example. But people have things like that every day. So So what have you get scared, take a look at your fears. And just say great, I have fears. Now, why do I really need to do is take make a list, I am such a risk writer, of a list writer of you know, the cons and the pros of something I’m always writing close and, you know, cons and pros. And that is really important for people to do is the most simple tools that you can do. And then you just sleep on it awake and let let your subconscious work on it and then see and just say to yourself, tomorrow morning, I’m going to wake up with a clear decision. And whatever decision you came up with the next morning, follow that, because you have now what we call the gone through a process of perturbation is based on the theory of decision better structures. And when you bring one reality, and then you bring another reality, you cannot have a combustion, and then you’re percolating, and then your subconscious will bring you what is best for you with your knowledge. It’s like, like, there’s so much good information in your subconscious of all the learning experiences you have had. And then do you also when you give it facts and data, trust yourself that you will come up with a good decision.
David Ralph [37:27]
But I know so many people DC that are in situations most most of its employment, to be honest, that they have really unhappy in and I go, you know what, why don’t you get another job. It’s not as easy as that? Well, it is you got this job in the first place. You know, there’s panels of jobs out there. And even if it’s not the job, you really want straight away, you can do something else, you’re making momentum, you’re moving away from that position, that’s that’s causing you distress. And generally, I always find that something new is something better, just for that period of time, even bed. And if you Well actually, I’m not too keen on this job, I carry on working to find something better, but I don’t. And I can have the same conversations with somebody about their life and the how unhappy they are. And I’ll meet them three months later, and we’re having the same conversations again. So they’re scared, even Bobo in a situation, they don’t like your plane, totally acceptable, I can see that you don’t like going into plane, you don’t want to die. So you’ll get another plane or you do something. But when you in a terrible situation, and you still aren’t willing to do something, that’s just madness, isn’t it?
DC Cordova [38:31]
Yeah, and but that is complacency. And that is from your environment, you know, we get a lot of those people that come to our programmes. And then usually human beings are very powerful, I have never met a human being that wasn’t personally powerful we all are. And a lot of times people will when they get very unhappy, they will create some kind of a drama, that will kick them out of that job or that work. And the sooner that you get that you’re the one that I try that particular situation because she didn’t want to be there anymore. The sooner that you’re going to go ahead and be getting rid of that a lot of times when people get no longer work somewhere, they get fired from somewhere or something occurs, and they’re no longer there. If they really tell the truth. They’re really happy that they are no longer there. And the ones that maybe will let go that would really qualify will find another job in five minutes. That’s not because industry said that way. I mean, when I hear that somebody really good no longer has a job in a business similar to mine, I got running after them and I go, Hey, you know, just can you work for me part time, you’re not going to let them go. So what you want to do is take a look at your apathy level. And apathy is a very dangerous thing. Because it’s like going to sleep awake. And then you wake up in your 40s and 50s and realise that oh my god, what have I been doing with my life? And that’s what a lot of times people call it a midlife crisis. That’s what a midlife crisis is. And it happens both for men both for men and women. It doesn’t happen just for men, it also happens for women. And, and so and for me, it’s not even in middle life anymore. You know, our life expectancy is 140 years old now. So I’m going into the second third of my life. I still have a little ways to go so I
David Ralph [40:28]
you’ve got years ago promise you you’re you’ll be here forever.
DC Cordova [40:32]
I know. We all are Buckminster Fuller made 50 predictions over 70 years ago. 49 of them have come true. His last prediction that he made and they’re all based on mathematics and and studies that guy was not a California fulfil, predictor. He Buckminster Fuller was a serious guy, he created the geodesic dome, the word synergy, once you find out about Buckminster Fuller’s very impressive, he said in the 30s, that he you were under 40 by the year 1970. And didn’t smoke. If by the year 1970, you were under 40 and didn’t smoke, your life expectancy was 140 years old. So we are already designed to live much longer. So you need to take a look at your life. It really realistically. And this is why I really support my friends. My students, you know, when I speak to groups like this is like the toughest thing is to be real with yourself. It’s in a lot of times other people see it, but you don’t. So and and the way to do it is by writing, right? Just write go. Not that you have to do daily journaling or anything like that, because I’m not that good at that either. But just write and just write and just go. And my really happy. What is it about my life that doesn’t work? What is about my life was that it does work? How would I like my ideal life to be we do that process in our programmes? What’s my ideal life? And why do I need to do in order to get there and then begin with small 10 steps. And it might take you a year to quit that job you eight, but at least you have brightness of the future, which gives people hope, which gives people happiness.
David Ralph [42:19]
I think it took me two years to quit the job that I disliked. But I look back on it. I think it took me five years to actually hit that point. So I think five years previously, I was already thinking, I’m not going to do this anymore. Men two years to actually work my way out. And then once I had a new boss that came in that made my life really miserable. It was very quick off the bat. And quite simply, I’ve never looked back since since I’ve done it. And I will say to everybody out there that as long as you’re willing to, as you said right at the very beginning, as long as you’re really willing to work like you’ve never worked before. And you hustled like you’ve never a household, you can support yourself and I now my mindset is totally change. I think the risky choice in life is actually being an employee. I think if you can earn your own incomes, then you have got half a chance of having a good life and, and a happy life.
DC Cordova [43:17]
Yes. I told my mom, my mom, she and I were talking yesterday. I call her almost every day. I’m in San Diego, she lives in Los Angeles. And I love talking to her, you know, we have a little joke. She says we never know when I’m not going to wake up, you know. And one of the things I said she says How was your day? And I said I played all day. And she goes really what did you do? I said I worked. And she says I love it that you’re he says you’re always playing you love your work. I said Mom, I’m so lucky. Since I was 29 years old. I have been playing, you know, and she says I know and I’m so happy for you. My mom is so happy for me that I’ve been playing since I was 29 years old. Because I do this all day. This what I do. I’m talking to people like you, you know, and I and yes, I do a little bit too much computer work right now. But you know what, I love it. I love it. And and I didn’t quit being a court reporter the legal system, because I didn’t like it because I loved it. And I was making a fortune by the time I left. I was 27 years old. And my last one I was just turning 28 I made $80,000 us that year. Okay, that was that would be like $300,000 us right now. That’s a lot of money. And I saved it. And it just so happened that I was I knew that I was meant to do something else and I quit and then I took time off. And I have retired three times this life. I recommend to people if you’re not just a backpacker that don’t care how much money you have where you sleep, when most people are not that way. I call it the mystery anyway. Okay, so Miss Piggy likes to have a nice home. He likes to have a nice backpack. If we go backpacking with silk sheets, you know, we’d like the good life, save up and take that time off for a year go travel, go read, go do something, move out of your environment. Just take it have the courage. You can even take a sabbatical. Some people have worked long, long time for a company and just say let me I need to take a year off. Take a sabbatical. That’s what a sabbatical is, and go and hang out in places and see what happens. But the biggest thing is take that first step and that is where the fear, you know, fear paralyses people so if you paralysed right now, as they say, in the movie, Moonstruck, snap out of it,
David Ralph [45:49]
I think that that analogy of playing every day is is perfect, to be honest, because one of the things that we talked about a lot on this show is that many people people know what they should be doing in life when they are a child. And they do things when they were a youngster that they love doing, and they would just do it all the time and not get paid for it. But you somehow forget that as you grow up, and when you take on jobs that are just jobs for you, or responsibilities or salary, and the you to savour that you play every day, that means that you’re touching on something that you naturally love doing. And since I quit my nine to five job, I I worked three times as hard as I did before, but I believe I could the same as you I love doing this. And I would do it for no money. It’s just a fantastic thing to do. And I feel exactly like you’re saying that I’m playing I’m having these conversations. People are enjoying them. And you know, what more could you want from life? Really, what more could you want?
DC Cordova [46:52]
Now the break but this is the thing. We have been hypnotised my mission, one of my missions is to transform as you systems around the world and eradicate poverty and hunger. You know, people can go to DC Cordova calm and read all about me, you will see you know what I’ve done. And one of the things that I chose, I chose very clearly and it was a tough decision was that I wanted to create environments, where people could learn a whole new way of earning a living. Because we’re trained to be sacrificial lambs, we’re trained to be an employee’s Buckminster Fuller, call them the great white parents, schools originally were created 150 years ago, nearly 200 years ago now, to create employees and people that would do what the great white parents want you to do pretty much the people with money, wealth, and money hasn’t become very, there was nobody was teaching you about money and business and making money until 40 years ago, is the industry that I’m in. Prior to that you had the book, Think and Grow Rich, you know, the science of getting rich, you had metaphysical books you had, you know, the dynamic laws of prosperity, you had this religious books that talked about prosperity. But overall, it wasn’t until nearly 40 years ago that all of a sudden, people began to say, Hey, wait a minute, you can actually earn a living and be happy at it. So when you talk to someone, like my mother’s age, you know, it’s like, they look at you and go, Are you nuts? Nobody, you’re lucky, if you’re happy when you get home, everybody had to sacrifice we were all starving. We didn’t have rich people, the way they have it. Now everybody had to work hard. There was not even a middle class and the 30s and 40s middle class didn’t start until the 50s. So when you have an understanding of how humanity has evolved, and this is why I love Buckminster Fuller, and the work that we teach is about having people really realise what are you at the effect of so you have been trained to being unhappy? You gotta snap out of it. It’s not you want. Most people did not have family, schools, churches, environments. I said, Don’t worry, be happy, go do what you love to do. And you will earn the living and be the happiest person on the planet. Nobody was spoken to like.
David Ralph [49:29]
Shame, though, isn’t it? You know that the education system, I can see why you want to change it because the education system is a conveyor belt for employment. And it Yes, the inspiration element of it is just not there a lot unless you get some amazing teacher but we all love who’s kind of inspires you. And makes you feel really pushes you on.
DC Cordova [49:51]
Yes. And they make movies about?
David Ralph [49:54]
Yeah, yeah, they don’t come through very, very often. You know, I I like the word inspiration, which is like inspiration and education. So you, you don’t actually teach kids, but you get them interested in stuff, really, and see what comes out of it. Because I don’t think a lot of what you learn once you’ve done your reading and writing and you’re good at that. I don’t use binary and whatnot that I learned and the works of Shakespeare, I’m sure they’re lovely to read, but I don’t quote them on a daily basis. But the life skill side of things, that’s what you need. And that’s the things that really will sort of shape the next generation who have really got opportunities at their fingertips, because they’re computer savvy, and they understand how social media works, and all that kind of stuff. And so yes, if you can get them at an early age, to feel inspired when they come out about their like cold springs ready to go.
DC Cordova [50:48]
Yes, and that’s why that’s why my industry is 100 billion dollar us a year industry. And that’s the industry of anything that has to do with new education, transport, emotional education. We were the pioneers of experiential education, where you learn through games, 65% of our education is all experiential in nature. Because one of the things that we have found that we have had to do is to literally bring out of people’s subconscious, the decisions that they made very young, including myself, I have gone through this whole process. That’s why it was so tough for me to leave, work. I mean, my life was dependent on it, I left Los Angeles because I thought I was going to die. You know, I couldn’t go to the internal affairs and turn and turn these people and they I saw the policeman the next day in court that I had seen at the party, my life was at stake. So I literally ran away and, and never went back. But one of the things that that is really important to know is that it takes courage. What is that step and the name of the game today? I think that for the theme of our conversation is courage. And don’t you know and and, and that’s what courage is that you will take action in the face of fear. That’s what courage is. There’s something so scary. And fear is very very paralysing. So if you’re feeling paralysed for now just do something different. Just get off your beautiful little butt and do something different. And you will see that there are generalised principles that will kick in, that when you’re going in a certain direction. And you’re very focused, you will have the ripple effects and you will have what we call processional effects of things that will occur in your life that will be so magnificent, and that you’re going for a new vision of a magnificent life. And that’s what creates transformation in a human being.
David Ralph [52:51]
Well, let’s play the words of Steve Jobs, which is the theme of the whole show, because he talks about going on a path that you don’t know what you’re doing, until you look back, connect the dots. And I’ll be fascinated to see whether these words have relevance to you. This is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [53:05]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [53:41]
So do those words have relevance to you? DC?
DC Cordova [53:44]
Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, I love Steve Jobs. And that’s so sad that he left so early. And he when I heard that the first time, I was so moved, and I totally believe in it that in this one I also call following the clues. Following the clues one of our students, you know, a Tony Robbins, you know, he says success leaves clues. That’s true. But also you leave clues for yourself. You have such an incredible, amazing what Buckminster Fuller call the Phantom captain, your own internal GPS that will tell you where to go. The trick is listening and connecting those dots that Steven job is talking about.
David Ralph [54:34]
We’re going to connect your dots now. And this is the end of the show. And I really don’t want to stop this conversation. As I said at the beginning, it could be Episode 123, all the way to nine. But I’d like to send you back in time. And this is part of show we call it a sermon on the mic. And I’m going to send you back to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back and speak to the young DC what age would you choose? And what advice would you give what we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the tune. And when it fades you up, this is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [55:05]
Here we go
Unknown Speaker [55:07]
with the best bit of the show.
DC Cordova [55:26]
Okay, so DC Dan, you’re now six years old, and you just lost your best best friend. And I know that you’re completely heartbroken and you don’t know what you’re going to do without him. And I just want you to know that your life is going to be so beautiful, but it’s going to be a little bit later in life. So you’re going to go through some things for a little while. But just remember that they’re going to get really, really good later in life, you it is going to get better. And just know that you’re here for a reason. And these things are happening for a reason. And when your heart is broken into a little tiny million little pieces, that there’s someone else in charge, and there is a purpose. And the reason for all of this and you will find out you will be really, really, really happy, there’s going to be a time when you’re going to be really happy. And when sad things happen. They’re going to make sense to you and you’re going to know why they’re happening. And I just love your little dirty seat there. You’re just the cutest little thing in the whole world. And I love you man.
David Ralph [56:43]
Do you see how can our audience connect with you.
DC Cordova [56:49]
They can go to money and you.com there’s a lot of information about us. And I like them to download a forest session business make them sorry, there’s a business success model. It’s a wonderful tool for business, they got a money in you.com forward slash, free gift, just small letters free gift. And that will really, really empower them in business. And they can look me up at DC cordova.com and follow all kinds of links there. And I look forward to meeting your audience from around the world.
David Ralph [57:28]
I’m sure they look forward to meeting you as well. And thank you so much for spending time with us today joining those dots of your life. And please come back again when you have more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining those dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Dame DC Cordova. Thank you so much.
DC Cordova [57:46]
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David Ralph [58:14]
You thought you got rid of me. Now I’m just going to ask you a favour anyone out there who’s enjoyed the show and has enjoyed all the shows. Could you go over to iTunes and leave a review the more reviews I get the better the show will perform. And then it’s a win win. You’ll be getting me every single day for the rest of your life don’t know that’s a good thing or a bad thing. But yeah, iTunes, David Ralph, Join Up Dots and I love you so much or even come down to walk your dog. Thanks very much. Bye bye