Isha Uppalapati Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Business Podcast
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Introducing Isha Uppalapati
Isha Uppalapati is todays guest on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots business podcast.
She is an inspirational go getting young lady who not only has the passion to become a top entrepreneur, but also has the desire to drag others along for the ride too.
She is the founder of A Girls Frontier, an organisation founded in 2018, whilst a senior at Walton High School in Atlanta, GA.
She started A Girl’s Frontier to provide opportunities for young girls all over Metro Atlanta and the whole world.
As she says proudly “No matter where they may be, our organization makes sure that we can provide them with the necessary support for them to achieve their goals in life.
Our programs focus on education, mentorship, and outreach.
The goal of our non-profit organization in Atlanta, Georgia, is to empower young girls by helping them financially through their education, as well as teaching them important entrepreneurial skills.
We want girls to know that they can be leaders in the business world, regardless of the challenges in their way.”
How The Dots Joined Up For Isha
Now this isn’t something that just occurred over night as her entrepreneurial story started almost at the start of her life due to the loving support of her dad.
She says “Ever since I was young, my dad and I would brainstorm different tools that we could produce.
We tried to create little trinkets that would make life easier.
We also wrote small children’s books.
Over time, my desire to create new things has not faded. I want to create something that can create a change.
This is why I want to create opportunities for girls who have similar dreams that I do, but don’t have the support to do it on their own.”
So does this dream make it doubly difficult to achieve the success that she quite obviously is going to get?
Or in fact does it become easier by surrounding herself with so many similar ladies driven and focused on a bright future?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to join up dots with the one and only Isha Uppalapati
During todays show we discussed such weighty subjects with Isha Uppalapati
Isha shares how her father has started several companies in his life, which was so inspirational to her by his desire to never give up.
We talk openly about the slow progress that all businesses go through right at the very beginning and how to build momentum.
Isha shares her view that the girls of the world are often the diamonds that are ready to be polished.
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Audio Transcription Of Isha Uppalapati Interview
Life shouldn’t be hard life should be a fun filled adventure every day. So now start joining up dots tap into your talents, your skills, your God given gifts and tell your boss, you don’t deserve me. I’m out of here. It’s time for you to smash that alarm clock and start getting the dream business and life you will of course, are dreaming up. Let’s join your host David route from the back of his garden in the UK, or wherever he might be today with another jam packed episode of the number one hit podcast. Join Up Dots.
David Ralph [0:41]
Yes, well, good morning to you and welcome to Join Up Dots. Thank you so much for being here. You know, when I started Join Up Dots 10 years ago, almost, there were certain guests that I was really hoping to inspire. And that was the younger generation so that they could think there’s a different world out there. I don’t have to follow me Mom and Dad, I don’t have to just go into a bank and, and a finance company and just sit there for years. And today’s guest is one of those ones that is actually going to inspire you because she’s done it already. She’s only 17 years old. And she’s an inspirational go getting young lady who not only has the passion to become a top entrepreneur, but also has the desire to drag others along for the ride too. She’s the founder of a girl was frontier and organisation founded in 2018, whilst a senior a Wharton High School in Atlanta, Georgia. Now she started a girl’s frontier to provide opportunities for young girls all over metro Atlanta, and the whole world. As she says proudly, no matter wherever they may be, our organisation makes sure that we can provide them with the necessary support for them to achieve their goals in life. Our programmes focus on education, mentorship, and outreach. The goal of our nonprofit organisation in Atlanta, Georgia, is to empower young girls by helping them financially through their education, as well as teaching them important entrepreneurial skills. We want girls to know that they can be leaders in the business world, regardless of the challenges in their way. Now, this isn’t something that just occurred overnight, as an entrepreneurial story started almost at the start of our life, due to the loving support of a dad. She says, ever since I was a young, my dad and I would brainstorm different tools that we could produce, we try to create little trinkets that would make life easier. We also wrote small children’s books. Over time, my desire to create new things has not faded. I want to create something that can create a change. And this is why I want to create opportunities for girls who have similar dreams that I do, but don’t have the support to do it on their own. So does his dream make it doubly difficult to achieve the success that she quite obviously is going to get? Or in fact does it become easier by surrounding yourself with so many similar ladies driven and focused on a bright future? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Isha Uppalapati.
Well, how are you?
David Ralph [3:12]
I’m very well I kind of overcooked your surname now I I choked at the last minute. And I think I gave it a little bit of extra but it didn’t deserve. So I should have said it.
Oh, Uppalapati. I think you’ve got it pretty closely.
David Ralph [3:27]
Was that okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just being kind to me, you’re just being kind to an old man sitting behind a microphone. So let’s start with it straight away. Because I’m, I’m referencing you from the point of my kids. And my kids won’t do anything. But anybody else I won’t even wash up or dry out without arguing, Oh, I didn’t do that. That’s not my thing. What makes you so focused on other people? Because Am I just a bit jaded? Or are most kids like you? Are my kids different?
Well, I wouldn’t say I’m, I’m that different or anything, actually. So I was really like, blessed with that great support system, as you were saying earlier. And with the girls frontier, I just wanted to kind of create that support system for other girls around the world too. Because like, I have it and I wanted to help other girls who don’t have it, like have access to that support system. Because more than anything, that’s really what helped me the most. And I’m not gonna lie I think a lot of kids are they genuinely care about other people and they really are like, working to make like our society and community a better place knowing like my friends and people I go to school with and stuff so I’m honestly, they’re excited like to see what our generation has to offer because like, with what kids are already doing now and people that I know, I think it’s gonna be really cool.
David Ralph [4:54]
Oh, I think it’s gonna be so cool. And I never use that word, but I’m gonna say it’s gonna be awesome as well. And I know Don’t use that word either. Because it is one of those things. But my age, I’m 51 years old, we’re sort of at the cusp of the technology technology came along when we were you know, I remember the first time I heard the word Google, I remember somebody showing me how to use the internet. Now, my grandson, he’s already on his tablet, and he’s only one tapping away. So the, the advancement in technology at the same time as people being born into it, really, there’s nothing we can’t do now is aresia.
The world like that possibilities are endless at this point. And like technology’s just changing every day, which is, like another thing because like, with my parents, they tell us how, like the internet came around, or like their smartphones came around. And that’s like, all stuff that I’m like, used to have that, you know, it’s like, it’s like, commonplace here. But that’s like, I don’t want to say back then. But like, back then, it was like, new was all brand new. And now when we’re more like used to it, and like no more, and there’s more stuff about it coming out, we can like use it more effectively and efficiently.
David Ralph [6:09]
I remember the times when you could make a phone call and people didn’t need to see your face at the same time. You know that? I look at it. And I think is that actually progress, Asia, but we’ve got to look our best every time we connect with someone, what do you think?
Well, I can’t say I think people are like video calls that frequently. But I definitely think it’s like making people a little like a lot closer. So it makes you feel like you’re with them at all times. It’s like that comforting feeling. Not that I’m a huge fan of it per se but I wouldn’t know if it was progress and more just like another option kind of thing.
David Ralph [6:50]
I don’t like people to see me straight out of bed with the old bed hair and all that kind of stuff. I like them to think that I’m super groomed at all time.
I don’t really mind I look the same. When I wake up or when I’m going to bed.
David Ralph [7:09]
You’re blessed. You are blessed. Right. Okay, so I’m fascinated. Obviously, we’re gonna talk about your nonprofit. But I’m fascinated about the the inspirational journey that you went on with your dad. Now, was it just playtime for you? Did you know that you were learning certain skills? Or was it just a fun thing to do?
It was a fun thing to do. So my dad’s an entrepreneur, too, so. And like he has started multiple companies in his lifetime. And seeing like him do that. That’s something that I was like, I’m always going to do that. I’m always going to be an entrepreneur that was like my thing. And then I would make all these like little companies with my sister. We did carwash services and like bake sales and stuff. But the thing is, like, we didn’t just do the I didn’t just make it like the big set. Like I had to make it like a company. Like I had to have the website, the business cards and like, at seven years old, like I thought that’s what makes a company you know, the website and the business cards.
David Ralph [8:13]
Man, people still do Asia I speak to adults all the time, and they still think it’s the logo in the business card. So you you was ahead of the curve there.
So yeah, like that’s what I always thought so I would always like start these many companies when I was younger, and then later we like would write I was really into like writing these little children’s books. I wrote once I even wrote one about Indra Nooyi who is like the former CEO of Pepsi and stuff because she was a big inspiration for me and I was like, pretty young at this point. I think that’s kind of where it started. Really? And
David Ralph [8:47]
did you ever see your dad sort of stressed out because it’s quite easy to make entrepreneur or life sounds amazing, but you just create new companies and new opportunities but it’s not as easy as maybe we’re making this conversation sound so Did you ever see the dark side Asia? Did you Did your dad ever show you that the side that maybe isn’t what people want to hear about?
Yeah, definitely for sure. Like, um, and there have been parts of times when I saw it like I guess the darker side of entrepreneur entrepreneurial ism but with um, with my dad who never really give up on his will on his ventures and stuff. And it never like I know a lot of small businesses and stuff don’t usually do well and they fail but I think my dad had a lot of experience and was very intelligent in the way he did it. So he never really we never really suffered to that like suffered really much.
David Ralph [9:49]
What What do you think about because something jumped out there but your dad never gave up. And what’s quite obvious we building multiple online businesses, but I have a More often than not, you don’t give up. But you do have to change direction, you have to pivot slightly. Yep. It’s never a failure. But sometimes you’re slightly around the curve when you should be going on the straight. What What do you think about that in building online businesses and advice for your, your mentorship?
And I think I think you’re gonna have to change the path at all times, like, there’s always gonna be like a point and a point B. And then however you like, get to that path is just like, it’s just the way like the path is laid out. Like, there’s gonna be times where there’s obstacles in your way, and you could just go around them, or you can try to overcome them. It depends. But like, even with my nonprofit, per se, it’s not like a for profit company. But like, before, the before the pandemic, I had all these like plans for like girls and leadership and to host all these events and stuff. But with obviously, with COVID-19, I couldn’t do a lot of things I was planning on doing. So I had to shift my focus a little bit and being like, wait, like, even though I can’t do this right now, right now, more than more than helping girls like, in leadership, right now girls need access to education. And so I had an eye so I did switch my, my view a little bit for the challenges that were in my way. And I feel like you have to constantly be, like, innovative, I guess, or changing or your business is gonna fail? Like, that’s the truth of it.
David Ralph [11:32]
Yeah, I think there’s two ways of it, you’ve either got such a strong brand, but loyalty, you know, we can look at Apple. Now Apple could do some really bad things, I suppose. But that the loyalty would probably take them through the bad times, because people are so sort of obsessed with, with the simplicity and the beauty of the product or whatever they think. Or you do have to pivot but some companies I find pivot too far away from what the customer is actually wanting. And then really struggle to sort of find their way again, with yourself, as it’s a nonprofit. Where does that fit within the kind of the branding and the, the understanding of what you’re actually offering? Because I don’t do nonprofit. And so I’m interested in how you actually set that up. So people actually understand that it’s better for them, and not for you.
Um, well, I think the biggest thing is being like transparent about it. And that’s a great thing with like, online stuff and like technology. And it’s like, you can show people what you’re actually doing. Like, it’s not just like, oh, telling people like, this is what I do. Like, on my website, like I’m photos or like, you have this, like you have testimonies and stuff of like things you’re actually doing. So people understand that. It’s like, not some, like, scam, fake thing, but it’s an actual organisation in which your, like, your intended goal, which is like to help these girls is actually like happening.
David Ralph [13:09]
Now, with your website, I’m on here, you you were booked on the show, I don’t know about two months ago or something. And, and now we finally got you on, and we’re glad you are. And the website has changed quite a lot since the last time I looked at it. And it’s very much more focused on sections, I suppose. And groups. Now what surprised me is how young you’re looking, you know, it’s not teenagers. We’re talking about somebody’s kids on there. They look about six to eight years old, you know, how young Are you expecting or hoping to actually get as signups for your girls frontier II show?
Well, in the way it works is so um, for, like, I have different programmes. And when I’m sponsoring like kids education, I prefer to go a little younger, because I feel like if they have that very strong foundation from a young age, they can accomplish so much more. And it’s not that like, I don’t want to sponsor these older kids. I just don’t have the, obviously the funds to provide for everyone. And I mean, if I did, I totally would, because, like, I’m blessed to have an amazing education. And I think that’s one of the most important things to becoming a leader too. And but I think that starting young in the sense of like, building a solid foundation is very important. But then when it comes to things like my iPad drives in which I’m helping give out iPads to girls, especially during the pandemic, who need technology, I think the older kids need it more because from when I was in middle school, elementary school, I didn’t really need too much technology. I know things have significantly changed now, especially with like virtual school and stuff, but I definitely think as like a high schooler or Later middle middle the floor, you kind of need technology more than per se and six year old.
David Ralph [15:08]
Now looking at what you’ve got, once again, it’s building any business, even a business like this, I think this is brilliant, you know you are such an inspiration, I’m not getting away from it. And you look at it and you think this, this is a given, you know, people are going to be clamouring to this, it still takes time to find its feet, it still takes takes time to sort of get it off the ground. Now I can see that you’ve done the hard work, you’ve actually gone out and set up stalls and spoken to people lied. So tell us that first bit from the idea to actually forming it into something that people understood and people wanted to sign up with? Because it’s always slow, isn’t it? No, nobody ever, I don’t think unless they’re lying really set something up, and it comes off like a rocket.
Right. So, um, I found it at my freshman year of high school, I found that a girl turned to my freshman year, and I was pretty, I will not lie, it was a little slow for a little bit to begin with. And then, um, during, to me, like one of the biggest outreach that I got, like attention, per se, is I wrote a book this past summer. And with that book, all my proceeds go to a girlfriend tear. And the book got a lot more attention than I even thought it would. And with that I got a lot more attended to also a girlfriend here. And overall like that, um, that really increased my like outreach and stuff to
David Ralph [16:45]
know, when you’re standing in front of somebody, and I’m looking at a picture on your website, and you’re talking to a family. And it looks like you’re in a coffee shop or you in Starbucks or somewhere you are. What is what’s the interest? How do you get them to come to you because back in the day, back in the day, I brand stores, and people are quite happy to just walk past? How did you bring them in? Because that’s, that’s a big part of the business puzzle, isn’t it being able to attract people and gain their interest so that they will stop their busy lives to actually see what’s on offer to them?
Unknown Speaker [17:22]
Unknown Speaker [17:23]
so a few things, I guess, well, once some of the organisations I was working with like, like, per se, the ones in front of a coffee shop, I guess, were people I was intending to meet with like I had plans to meet with them. And I was working with Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta has outreach programmes in order to do this. But there’s also a few other ones like I hosted a book event and the way like, I have these giant like books that my dad got printed for me. And it was like my book, but just on a giant scale. And it like catches people’s attention, like you have that one thing that catches someone’s attention, and then people come up to you, and then they start talking to you. And like I had a lot of people that I did not even expect to that I would like be speaking to come up to me talk to me, and then get really interested in what I was doing as well. And I think that was really great. And as well, um, look things like this podcast or other podcasts I’ve done on or other like news articles per se. Having that attention about like my company and me has also caused people to reach out to me directly after reading those being like, I want to support what you’re doing.
David Ralph [18:35]
Yeah, I think he’s a given that people will want to because, as I say, I’ve done about 2000 podcast interviews over many, many years. And I would say I’m struggling to think of any there might been in the past that are nonprofit, it’s always somebody trying to make a living, somebody’s trying to make their first six figures and to be out but to spend their time and effort, pushing it away from them to actually support others. I want to spin it on its head Actually, I’m just gonna play a sound clip and I will be back with you is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [19:09]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was it you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [19:36]
Now, the question I want to ask is, as I say, most people come to me with a business and then once they’ve been in business for 10 1520 years, they then start to spin it and start to think about pushing it back to the world and offering more value and they get into charity. They get into investing they get into startups or whatever. Now you’ve kind of done it the opposite way or have you about other businesses that you’re running in the background that are keeping you the financial support? Or is it as we like to say over here? Is it the Bank of dad, that’s allowing you to go through your education and focus your time on this? Well, it
is my parents both. Like, that’s the thing is, I’m so lucky to have the support system, that I don’t have to work in order to supplement my own income, in order to like, pay for school and pay for things that I need. And my parents are willing to support me through all of this and have been my entire lives. And with that, I’m taking what I was given, and I want to, and I’m so grateful for that, that I want to give to other people who don’t have these opportunities that I had to like, to not have to work or not have to supplement my own income.
David Ralph [20:53]
And why, again, was from Tia, I do not like boys, it’s as well it is it is a boys and men not your thing, why just girls,
I have nothing against boys or men. And it’s, I feel that there is definitely a gap and especially education to girls, and girls and leadership with the whole with the glass ceiling and things. And I want to show girls that they can be anything they want. I have a lot of I have a sister too. And both of us have been encouraged our entire lives by both our parents that we can be or do anything want. And I know a lot of girls, and a lot of families are not like that, and which boys are told that they could be anything they want. And oftentimes, girls are not. And I want to bridge this gap.
David Ralph [21:45]
That really I’m jumping in there because I would have thought that sort of old school, did you think that still out there. But that gets suppressed somehow and boys get the opportunities.
I wouldn’t say it’s like suppressed or by any means. But I definitely believe there’s a gap in education significantly, there’s a gap in education. And it’s more of like, a mentality because, yes, it is an old school thing of like, girls can’t do this. But oftentimes, obviously not my parents, but I know other people like their, with their parents mentality that comes from their grandparents. And this way of Oh, like, these are more like girl jobs like, or a girl also needs to take care of her family and have her family. So she can’t progress as quickly up the ladder as say a guy can because he doesn’t have to stay home with the kids and things like that. And I feel like the thing is girls can do anything, and they actually can. And I know they can. And I know plenty of women who are these amazing examples of being able to do anything and accomplish anything. But, um, I wanted to get into the point because I know there are parts of society that tell them that they can’t.
David Ralph [23:04]
I would hate to think that that’s true. Maybe I’m in a naive world, I just know about I look at everyone as a diamond ready to be polished. And some some people were never going to be polished because they want to help themselves. But the gems out there, the ones that really have got that spark. Okay, can you see that? Can you see the girls that come along? And you think to yourself, yeah, you’ve got that that kind of X Factor, you’re willing to do the extra you’re willing to do the hassle against the ones that you think, Okay, this is just a passion you’re going through at the moment, and it’s gonna pass.
I mean, absolutely, but I’m not gonna lie, I think you are just like, you have the mindset that I think that most of the, like the rest of the world needs to had have that. Everyone’s like a diamond waiting to be polished or like, can be can achieve this full potential level. But a lot of people place this potential level at different places for girls and guys, because they have different expectations for what a girl should do, and what a guy should do. And with that, I’m like, I definitely have seen girls that I know are passionate and that are very, that are going to be like amazing people and leaders in their field. And that’s who I want to work with because and a lot of times those girls don’t have access to this education. I work with these girls on doors and all of them have been saved from severe sexual and sexual abuse from human trafficking, whether or like their families are such and these girls are incredible. They’re the smartest, most resilient people I’ve met, but they’ve been through a lot and a lot of girls go through that of the of human Foreign girls are stuck in human trafficking. It’s a billion dollar industry. And that is definitely a disadvantage to their that they’re more likely to be vulnerable to something like that.
David Ralph [25:11]
So somebody who has had a really rough upbringing, and they been sexually abused, and they are being trafficked, or whatever, how do you reach out and find those people? Because they’re the ones that I think are the diamonds. They’re the ones that actually have got so much more to work against and rally against, you know, I sometimes look at my kids, and I think to myself, yeah, maybe they’re so lazy, because what have they got to work for? They got a lovely house, they’ve got Wi Fi, when they want it, they’ve got Netflix, they’ve got Amazon, you know, whatever they want. They’ve just kind of got it bare anyway. So when I say to them, come on, mow the lawns. For me, I’ve literally got to write a check, or they won’t do it. Because what’s the point I can just earn money in an easier way. So with these these skills, these unfortunate girls that you find how do you find them? How do you find those people? Well,
I work with organisations that help combat human trafficking. And with that I choose to work with these girls specifically in helping sponsor education, because
these girls need need a lot. But I mean, obviously, like any children, do, they need a family and these organisations help provide this family and I try to help help as much as I can there. And I actually not only with like a girlfriend here, but with outside organisations, I do work against human trafficking as well. I
David Ralph [26:43]
don’t know if I could do this. I think you you’ve got a tougher skin than me. I think that I would want to just sweep them up in the arms and kind of adopt them somehow to get them away from it. More than teaching them the skills. Do you fear that you’re teaching them the skills whilst they’re still in that situation? Did you find that difficult as well? Not to just being right, come come with me. And I’ll hide you somewhere. No, these
girls have been brought to birth.
David Ralph [27:15]
Right, right. Okay, so so I’ve been saved in certain regards.
Yes. And there, they are living a much, much better life. But there’s so much to heal from. And stuff like these girls say they come in at 13. And they never been to school. They have no education. They don’t know how to read or write. And they’re starting kindergarten at the age that most people start, like seventh or eighth grade. Yeah. And it’s they make up for this gap so quickly. They’re the fastest learners, they’re so incredibly resilient. And they’re so like, passionate about what they’re doing. And they’re happy about the little things too, which is something like, that’s incredible to see. And I love talking to them. They’re the sweetest, most energetic little girls I’ve ever talked to. Oh, nice.
David Ralph [28:09]
That’s the key to success. It doesn’t matter who I speak to. They will say, Be grateful, show gratitude, you know, be humble, show passion. And that’s where success comes to you. Do you think it’s easier to find success? I’ve often thought this referencing once again, my kids and other people that I see who are rallying against something, do you think it’s easier? If that does the passion stay longer, when I actually can really make a difference to their life instead of just earning a few dollars here and there?
Um, I don’t think so. I think passion is like something that’s innate to who you are. And whether it’s like, I don’t think it’s something that like really goes away.
David Ralph [28:55]
Does doesn’t matter, because you know, that there’s, you know, you must have seen so many girls that you for are they’re really on this, they’re really working hard. And then, you know, you can see the passion dwindling away. Other things come into it, you know, life is littered with people that buy everything self development book in every race and every bad because it’s going to be their next big thing. And then they change and they move on, you know, you must see that surely.
Yeah. But like, to me, passion is something that’s always there. And it’s like whether or not they think that their passion is going to be useful or it’s going to it’s going to get them what they want. So I guess at the end of the day, I mean, you’re correct, but if people are like, Oh, my passion can make me money. Oh, my passion can make me a better person. Oh, my passion can help others. Like they’re gonna keep with it. It’s usually passions fade out when you realise that when people realise that like they’re they don’t have They don’t have the motivation to keep going with it more than a passion thing. It’s like you’re, you have to have the motivation and the passion, it’s not a one or the other situation.
David Ralph [30:09]
So imagine that I decide that I want to be a tennis player, and I’m really sort of obsessed with tennis for a period of time, are we saying here, then everybody has got a pull of passion in them to make a big difference, but they can spend it in the wrong area, because I see that passion is an energy thing. And when you get the energy back, that’s when you’re on your game, that’s when you really want to carry on. That’s why it’s so obvious review, you’re gaining as much back from your programmes as you are giving out. And when it’s just one way direction, that’s when people start to sort of fade and flag do you think?
Yeah, well, I mean, think about it, say you were saying that you wanted to be this amazing tennis player, unless you’re willing to put in the work of practising like these 10 hours, 10 to 12 hours a day, like these amazing tennis players actually do, you have to put in the work, like, you have to have the motivation to put in the work, and you can have the passion all you want. But unless you do anything, if you don’t do anything about it, and if you don’t work for it, like it’s not, nothing’s gonna happen, you can still have the passion.
David Ralph [31:14]
Let’s take you back bend to that slow part of the business, because this is one of the fundamental building blocks of having to hit ball and ball and ball over the net before you get any rewards. What can people out there look for to keep them focused? When they’re not feeling like they’re making movement? Of course they are. They they’re, they’re improving, they’re building up muscle memory, or whatever it is. But what can I focus on to keep themselves going when they’re not getting what they expected to get from the business? straight off?
I mean, I think Well, yeah, everything has like highs and lows. And then you have to see that, like, look into to see like what my business can be, like, if I keep working into this work, what can I do, and work to like a very specific goal, do very small projects first, do like smaller things. And that way, it’ll make you feel like wait, this is something that’s concrete, this is making a difference. And then slowly, like those small things will become bigger things will add up over time.
David Ralph [32:25]
Are you saying that they will join up their dots and all the dots will be something amazing?
David Ralph [32:32]
yes. Say you see what I’ve done with this show. So and it is true, isn’t it? It’s, you know, I never thought I was going to record the 2000 podcasts, I just wanted to recall one. And then it went to two and then it went to 100. And when it went to 300. And little by little when you’re doing that you’re improving your skills over time, until the weld looks around at you and says, oh, you’re a podcaster or your best or you’re fat. So with you, what do you think that people look at you as did I think you’re an entrepreneur? Or do they think that you are more inspirational? Because I’ll be honest, you’re an inspiration to me, you’re more than an entrepreneur, because you’re so focused on others?
Well, to start off with it, I mean, I’m still in high school. So first of all, when people look at me, they think I’m just a high schooler. But um, I think, I think for me, I am a little less of like, the full fledged entrepreneur yet. And I mean, I hope to be to be an entrepreneur in the future again, and start and or continue my, I’m continuing my organisation and such, but, um, I think more than that, they just people would see someone that’s like passionate about what she does.
David Ralph [33:50]
And that passion obviously is like a waterfall that must cascade into other stuff. You. You’re a bit you’re a high achiever at your school studies as well. Yeah.
Yeah. So I would say that I am.
David Ralph [34:02]
Yeah, I used to hate people like you that were just good at everything. I used to struggle to try to sort of get passed on these things. Now, we’ve your programmes. What’s the first step? So? Is it parents or should parents generally or guardians come prove to you or do more girls sign up instantly?
I’m more than that. It’s I’m, I reach out to people more than people coming to me. Okay. People tend to come to me on the donation aspect of things. And then I reached out to girls that I believe or
David Ralph [34:42]
what do you think that is? You’re going on podcasts? You’ve got your book, The programme is growing. I look at it and I think this is brilliant. This is excellent. Why do you think that people aren’t flocking to you and what can we do about it?
I think that’s something that I get I need to change about my organisation because when I’m starting when I was starting and, like, up until about this point, like, it was me reaching out to people, and that’s how I got traction. That’s how, like, I was found. But now that I have been on these podcasts such as like, this one, um, people actually are reaching out to me. So I should you write like I should make it a programme in which I can just take these girls that reach out to me specifically.
David Ralph [35:27]
I personally would reach up hi to people like Oprah. I know, Alan dude does things, that those kinds of programmes that you’ve got in the States, I think that they would be interested in this. Certainly, I would think Oprah would be wherever you get through the gatekeeper in every bank. But that could be the the breaking of the dam, you only need somebody support a bat level. And it all starts coming true.
I mean, yeah, it to be on Oprah would be an accomplishment or like to speak with her would be an accomplishment of, Oh, my God, I don’t even know. But
Unknown Speaker [36:09]
you can be amazing.
David Ralph [36:11]
You could do it, I could be yours. Now not Fingers crossed. I think you can do anything you want. You’ve just got to be strategic about how you provide the value to them, you know, they must get so many pitches all the time. And by spinning it on his head to being How can you actually bring value to them. And you’ll get through the door. I think that you should start tweeting stuff, posting, you know, all linking to get on Oprah not actually to get on Oprah, but be on a TV programme.
I feel like that’s actually a good idea.
David Ralph [36:48]
And I might have to start doing that. That’s right. That’s what we do is a good idea. You say you just bought you come on a podcast, but we’re, we’re back. And I’ll tell you what, if you do get Oprah on to support you and stuff, come back on the show and tell us how you did it. Because I I can’t see why she wouldn’t. Because this is what she’s all about. She had one of those upbringings where, you know, she was sexually abused. He didn’t have clothes, she dragged herself out. And so to see what you’re doing, I would say there’s the tracks aligned somehow, don’t they? Yeah,
I definitely agree. And I feel like she could relate personally to what I’m doing. And that would be a lot more enticing to her than if I then if say she didn’t relate. So personally,
David Ralph [37:34]
yeah, you go through it, you go, you go for it, girl. That’s what the Americans say. Okay, so let’s move on slightly, I want to hear the words of the late Steve Jobs, and then relate them to what we’re doing here, Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [37:47]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference. Now, obviously,
David Ralph [38:23]
you’re still a young lady, did you have that baby? Or does that not come into it? Do we need faith more when we become a little bit older and jaded? Is it all positive and opportunities at your level?
I wouldn’t say that, I think pretty much for everyone. It’s like some things don’t work out. And then and you have to remind yourself that other things do and you have to keep going like this one. Could this one will work out like you got to keep reminding yourself that just because one failed opportunity does not mean that all your opportunities are a failure
David Ralph [38:59]
would be because I don’t think that we do have babies. I know they people say we have failures, but I think we just learned better ways of doing stuff. But when you look back on things, are there things that you look at? And you think, yeah, that it wasn’t a failure, but it was so off what I should have been doing at that time.
Yeah, so like, I also don’t really believe anything’s a failure, I believe Actually, I believe things are a failure. Unless, if you don’t learn from the mistake, like I feel like things are mistakes and opportunities to learn unless you choose not to learn from that mistake. But I definitely think my thing is personally for like with my business and stuff, all the mistakes that I’ve made I feel that I’ve learned from so I don’t really consider them failures.
Unknown Speaker [39:52]
David Ralph [39:53]
I could have been you because I had no ambition growing up at all. I just basically went through the education system. Tim got a job spent 10 years but I had none until I hit my sort of late 30s when suddenly the ambition sort of flooded into me. He is it more commonplace now? Because you know, going back to the beginning of the conversation with the opportunities and the iPads and the tablets and creating huge followings on Tick Tock and stuff. Do you think more people have got ambition because it’s so readily available to see what other people are doing out there? I’m thinking I’ll have a piece of that.
I think it’s just easier to with like the internet and stuff to be like, Oh, wait, other people can do this. It’s not just like, someone out there. That’s unattainable. But with like, the internet, these people feel so much closer, like kids your age your kids minds that are like doing this stuff. And I’m like, okay, I can do it too. Like, it’s not just something that I have to wait till I’m older, like, you can do it now. And the internet provides so many resources, so many examples of what you can and can’t like what you can do.
David Ralph [41:01]
Yeah, cuz I grew up before the internet, obviously. And you just basically you got a job in an office, there wasn’t anything because of that inability to see the crazy things that people are doing that seems so fun, and so inspiring. But now, that’s one of the big things that people should do, isn’t it, look around, and really, don’t just look around and flick up and down on your news feeds, but do a deep dive on stuff that interests you.
I mean, exactly. And then it’s like the whole point about the passion that we talked about, you have to have the motivation to follow through with your passion. So if you are passionate about something, spend time looking into it. So like you can figure out like what you can do to make your passion, concrete and a reality.
David Ralph [41:47]
So before we send you on the Sermon on the mic to go back in time to have a one on one with your younger self, what is your sort of next maybe two goals for your nonprofit at a moment ago, it was frontier, what the two next things that you’re really focused on at the moment?
Um, well, first of all, I’m going to college next year. So I will be moving soon. So I hope that like I want to set up new routes for my organisation, and create a little community for my organisation wherever I end up there. And then also, I’m working on getting more girls sponsored under like our education.
David Ralph [42:33]
So it’s coming to focusing in on yourself first, but always keeping an eye on everybody else. And where are you? Where are you going to college?
I actually don’t know yet. I will find out in about a month. So
David Ralph [42:48]
where do you hope to go? Well, what’s, where’s your focus? Um,
my top few schools are Princeton, Stanford and Yale.
David Ralph [42:56]
Oh, Blimey, you are high achievers. See? Well, I aim for the stars. I aim for the stars. And even if you don’t get the stars, you can grab the moon, I wish you the best of success to get into those places. That’s that’s your ticket? Isn’t it? Really, if you get there, I suppose.
It I feel I’m not gonna lie. That’s been something like everyone’s told me and I do definitely believe that going on. Like a good school helps you a lot. But it’s all about what you do at those schools. And what’s like the experience you make out of that?
David Ralph [43:25]
Well, I’m sure just speaking to you for the last hour, you will make every opportunity come true. from whatever school you end up. So congratulations to you there. Now, Aisha. This is the part of the show that we called a sermon on the mic when we’re gonna play some music and send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. Now, you’re still quite young. So I’m going to be interested in what age you would like to go back to speak to if you have the chance and what advice you would give. So I’m going to play the music and when it fades is your time to talk to each other. This is the Sermon on the mind.
Unknown Speaker [44:06]
We go with the speed of the show.
Okay, so I’m going to choose to talk to I think about my middle school stuff. I think I’d say around seventh grade, so 1213 maybe. So I’m 17 now so I mean, back then, like I was so much more. I’m not confident about my future. And I mean, like just in this podcast itself. I talked about how I can take every opportunity like a mistake like I can learn from my mistakes or I failed opportunities, not like everything’s failed. But back then, like, honestly, even freshman year, like I was like, Oh, I failed, I completely failed. Like, I am a failure in that sense. And, like, that’s not the truth. And I thought this to myself, I’m all the time. And it was just, it didn’t help in having like this, it was like almost a negative mindset. And having a negative mindset does not help and change. Like, the one thing I would say to you, my younger self, is to change that negative mindset early on, like realise that one, failure does not mean you feel that everything, like one failure is just, it’s, it’s just a mistake, it’s an opportunity to learn. And I think being so young, you have so much time to learn from everything, like really messing up on one thing is not the end of the world, like doing that on one test doesn’t really matter. At the end of the day. Doing that at like one game, like anything like that. I’m not getting the kind of success I want. It’s just, it’s not the end of the world. It’s not the end of my life, like I have so much more. We we have so much more in front of us. And it’s taking those taking those mistakes as what they are a mistake, not a failure, not the end all be all, like my life, but just something to learn.
David Ralph [46:39]
powerful stuff, and I know that little girl will will learn because I get chance to speak to the big version of her. And she’s been an absolute delight. So for everybody out there listening Aisha, what’s the number one best way that they can connect with you.
Um, you can email me or you can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
David Ralph [47:02]
we will have all the links in the show notes to make it as easy as possible. Aisha, thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. And please come back again, when you got more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is always the best way to build our futures. Aisha, thank you so much.
David Ralph [47:24]
Aisha from a girl was front here. So yes, 17 years old, I find these. Yeah, they are kids, aren’t they? You know, but I find them absolutely inspirational. But they’ve got so much positivity and focus to change beings because, you know, I didn’t Yeah, I was I was just, I didn’t know what I wanted to do. And I look back on it. And I think my God, they are so ahead of the curve. And for everybody out there. It’s the biggest learning point of success and it was one of the steps of success guy. But success really comes to you when you have a goal for yourself and a goal for the world. And when you can put the two together, it really does come together like a like a steam train towards you by having an inward outward goal. So if you’re building something at the moment and you’re struggling to get momentum, start thinking about how can you provide as much value as possible to other people, and it will start happening. I absolutely promise you. Until next time, my friends, thank you so much for being here on Join Up Dots. That was David Ralph. And that was Aisha from a girl’s frontier. See you again. Bye bye.
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