Welcome To The Join Up Dots Business Coaching Podcast With Sophie Radcliffe
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Introducing Sophie Radcliffe
Sophie Radcliffe is today’s guest is a lady with more energy than the most energised person you can think off.
Yep, think of the person you know the most who runs, leaps, and bounds out of bed earlier than anyone, and they will look like a couch potato compared to this lady.
She was introduced to the show by the Flowcoacher Chris Randall and it’s no surprise why.
In the last few years she has completed the 3 Peaks Challenge.
Adventure racing in Borneo, Cycled London to Paris in 24 hours.
Cycled London to Amsterdam in 48 hours, Completed The 3 Peaks Cycle Challenge (cycling 430 miles and climbing the 3 highest peaks in the UK) in 3 days.
Learnt how to become an alpine mountaineer by climbing Mont Blanc
And that is just some of the things that has challenged and pushed her on wards to greater and greater successes in her life.
I got tired just reading the list out.
How Did The Dots Start Joining Up For Sophie
But like most of us that end up doing amazing things, her life going into the adult working life was anything but remarkable.
During college she performed many various tasks within an office environment and due to her boundless enthusiasm and passions for the tasks, moved through the ranks quickly impressing everyone that she met, wherever she worked.
Focusing her talents on culture building, start-ups, marketing and being the best that she can be, she thrived in the corporate world.
But it was when she moved away from the world of the grey suits, that she has expanded her impressive resume of doing the things least expected and doing them better than most
As she says “I believe that it is through challenging ourselves that we stretch our limits, break down barriers and realise we can achieve far more than we think.
We raise the bar of what we expect from ourselves, develop confidence, resilience and drive and go out to achieve more across all areas of life.
This is what has happened to me and I’m on a mission to give you the inspiration and tools to be the very best you can be and get the most out of your life.”
So how did she manage to overcome the fears that hold so many of us back as we look to having rich and fulfilling experiences in our lives?
And how has she managed to become so supremely fit, in so many different areas, and still keep on having the passion for more?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, the one and only Sophie Radcliffe.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Sophie Radcliffe such as:
How as a child she always had a passion for being dirty, running around and wanting more than she was getting in her life. The fires were always burning within her.
Why Sophie Radcliffe states “That you have to make bold, inspired decisions, and have courage if you want to change your situation”
Why she thinks it is madness that so many companies allow their most inspiring, motivational and driven members of staff to just quit and walk away…….and I am in total agreement of this.
How we must allow ourselves downtime to recharge both the body and the mind to come back stronger. We are just human batteries after all.
Why Sophie believes everything in life is simply a case of taking baby-steps towards the future you want.
If you do something everyday you will make progress.
How To Connect With Sophie Radcliffe
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Audio Transcription Of Sophie Radcliffe Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes. Hello there. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Episode 222 of join up dots. Yes, every single day, we deliver a powerhouse episode of movers shakers, motivational guys inspirational content, and the kind of thing really that you should listen to, to just get your backside off the sofa and start trying things. And today is a lady who really will make you try things our fingers crossed, her spirit will flat out she’s a lady with more energy when the most energized person you can think of finger the person you know the most who runs leaps and bounds out of bed earlier than anyone. And they look like a couch potato compared to this lady. In the last few years she’s completed the free peaks challenge. Adventure racing in Borneo cycled London to Paris in 24 hours. cycled London to Amsterdam in 48 hours completed the free peak cycle challenge cycling 430 miles and climbing the three highest peaks in the UK in three days. Learn how to become an Alpine mountaineer and climbed Mount Blanca. I’m tired just waiting that out. And that is just some of the things that has challenged and pushed onwards to greater and greater successes in her life. But like most of us that end up doing amazing things her life going into the adult working life was anything but remarkable. During college, she performed many various tasks within an office environment. And due to her boundless enthusiasm and passion for the tasks, move through the ranks quickly impressing everyone that she met wherever she worked, focusing her talents on culture, building startups, marketing and being the best that she can be. She thrived in the corporate world. But it was when she moved away from the world of the gray suits that she has expanded her impressive resume of doing the things at least expected and doing them better than most. And she says, I believe it is through challenging ourselves that we stretch our limits, break down barriers and realize we can achieve far more than we think. We raised above what we expect from ourselves, develop competence, resilience, and drive, and go out to achieve more across all areas of life. This is what happened to me. And I’m on a mission to give you the inspiration and tools to be the very best you can and get the most out of your life. So how did she managed to overcome the fears that hold so many of us back as we look to having rich and fulfilling experiences in our lives? And how has she managed to become so supremely fit in so many different areas, and still keep on having a passion for more? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start joining up dots. The one and only Sophie Radcliffe. How are you? Sophie?
Sophie Radcliffe [2:56]
I’m very good. Thank you. How are you doing?
David Ralph [2:58]
I am rocking and rolling. I’m feeling very good. Now Actually, I’m alive. I told you beforehand. I’ve got aches and god knows what today, did you I I’m gonna cut to the chase. Do you ever get aches? Oh, are you so supremely fit now that you just brush them all off?
Sophie Radcliffe [3:13]
Absolutely, of course. And I wake up feeling tired and D motivated. You know, I hit snooze button on my alarm, and all the things that everybody experiences. I’m a normal person. But and I guess what I what I do sort of challenged myself to find ways around around around those obstacles.
David Ralph [3:35]
Well, that’s one thing I never do. I never press news. I always think once that goes off, and what’s the point in doing that? It’s not proper sleep anyway. So I’ve got one over you, Sophie Radcliffe?
Sophie Radcliffe [3:45]
Well, fantastic. You can help me with that one, then I will
David Ralph [3:48]
I will come out and throw a bucket of water over you each morning to get you out of bed early. So Have you always been the kind of lady who is, you know, energized and looking for challenges. And obviously, we’re going talk about the big stuff. But it’s the little stuff that interests me when you was a small girl, was it something that you like whizzing around on your bike and doing kind of crazy stuff?
Sophie Radcliffe [4:10]
Yeah, I think so. I mean, it, it’s difficult to look back. And, and, and sort of, you know, because you You always look back at yourself. And you think well, that’s just the way that I was, I doesn’t seem like anything out of the ordinary to you. But I think that I was always I loved getting wet and muddy and climbing trees and whizzing around my bike, like you said, and, and I, I remember always having this this sort of underlying drive to go and do something that really challenged myself. And when I was younger, I really wanted to sort of English channel that was sort of one of the things that really inspired me, but always had this fire inside the sort of belief that I was capable of doing, you know, amazing things and really stretching myself. And I think that that sort of, you know, belief about potential is what has given me to go in and in such a bit.
David Ralph [5:02]
Well, where do you get that fire from? Because I know exactly what you mean. Now, the challenges that you’re doing, I just couldn’t do I just know they’re not in me. But I would quite like to go tonight the top of Everest if I could get plopped on the top by a helicopter or something and just look around. So where do you Where do you get those kind of that that ability that fire in your belly was it was it your mom and dad like that we did you have brothers and sisters who were very much in that vibe as well.
Sophie Radcliffe [5:29]
He comes from a combination of, of areas. So it definitely you know, my parents weren’t like that. And in terms of you know, being sporty in the they weren’t, they didn’t do any of these sort of adventurous challenges. But they definitely inspired this this belief in me that I you know, I could go on and I could achieve anything that I wanted to. And so I think as I kind of moved through life, the people I’ve chosen to spend my time with my friends, my boys friend, who’s now my husband, you know, the companies that I’ve worked for, I’ve wanted to be around people who are very high energy very driven, and very successful what they do, so they inspire me to go out there and push myself more. And I think that’s really, really important is making sure that you’re around the right people who believe in you, but also inspire you to go out there and, and to do more.
David Ralph [6:23]
I agree with you, I think that is probably the number one, or at least the number two trait about all the successful people that I speak to on a daily basis have been very focused on their peer group. And they not only surround themselves with people who inspire them, they surround themselves with people that really inspire them and are beyond them in many ways. So that they they had that personal belief that it’s possible because I can already see somebody to do it. In corporate life, and for the people that are listening and the one the tube, and they’re on the bus or whatever, and they going to work. And they’re surrounded by misery guts at work. And we’ve all worked in companies where you go in there. And the last thing you want to do is say hello to anyone at the coffee machine. Because you get the sort of diatribe here and all that kind of stuff. How is the best way for people to do what you’ve done and start surrounding themselves with great positive people, if they’re not in that environment.
Sophie Radcliffe [7:26]
There’s a common thread that you might might hear throughout throughout this, this conversation. And the one thing that I really, really believe in is that in order to get in, you have to be prepared to make moves to make sacrifices, to be bold, and to put yourself out there in a number of ways. And the reality is, is that if you’re in a situation that isn’t making you feel good, whether that is a relation personal relationship or your work environment, or even if your commute to work isn’t making you feel good, finding new ways to you get to work in a get a bike, and all the walk to work, you know, work some of them because there’s so many different ways, there’s always another option. But the problem is, is that we put barriers up and we say I can’t do that because you know, that will take me longer or a lot of people you know, I might get to work and get the sweaty if I cycle there. So you’ve got to you’ve got to put yourself in a situation where where you know, you’re you’re prepared to take those risks and you’re prepared to take old news. Either way, when you start doing that, you’ll find that you that you you put your you are surrounded by people who are like minded.
David Ralph [8:35]
It’s funny, actually, when you say that about cycling to work and getting sweaty when you’re there, it doesn’t seem a lot. But I know it put me off the years doing because I thought when I get to work, I don’t want to sit there about a shower at home and I’m on a bike and all that kind of stuff. And it’s not a lot is it really when you think about it, you can put up with sweatiness.
Sophie Radcliffe [8:54]
It’s not live. And, you know, it’s it’s Yeah, exactly. It’s not that bad. And, and, you know, a lot of places have showers now anyway, but it’s exactly it’s just one of those things, it’s a very small thing, actually starting to work and make a phenomenal difference to your life. And in terms of your your sort of, you know, your positive mentality in terms of fitness, it also saves you a ton of money. So you know that that’s more thing, like not being able to have a shower, I would just say we’ll just go and try. And if you don’t like it, then you don’t like it, give it a go for a month or so.
David Ralph [9:25]
Absolutely. Let’s all get sweaty together. That’s what we’re saying on this show. So if you go back right in sort of in join up dots timeline, obviously, what you’re doing now seems to be absolutely spot on for what you should be doing. It’s the kind of thing that makes you light up inside. But you have been on a path which is quote unquote, very corporate, you have done numerous different jobs, you’ve worked for accountancy, saw a senior account manager for read business, you’ve been a sales manager for MV f global, I’m going down your LinkedIn profile here at the moment, yes, and a lot of them I’m looking at you weren’t there for an awful long time, you kind of got in debt free the two years did one year and it seems but the actual time that you were at these companies got less and less, were you in your head kind of already transitioning to something more you as you was doing them.
Sophie Radcliffe [10:21]
I think I always had this underlying feeling that this wasn’t me, you know, I I didn’t the day you graduate from university, you’ve got to get a job. And sales is always something that came very naturally to me. So I got a job in business development. And I loved it absolutely love the atmosphere, I was highly driven. I was you know, I was I was the top salesperson that the entire time I was there. And once you get to that, you immediately start looking for what’s next. And what I found is that in all of the jobs that I was in, I would want what was next before, you know, months before I ended up leaving. And if they didn’t have for me, then I then I had to leave. And it’s a really, it’s a very difficult situation. And a lot of people that I’ve kind of met over the last few years who have sort of been mentoring me or just just just sort of business professionals I’ve met along the way, I always think it’s it’s insane that the companies I’ve worked with, let me go. And they say don’t understand, you know, everyone’s struggling to find people who are dedicated, hard working, driven, you know, brilliant individuals, yet, here you are, and these companies are just happy to let you walk away. And I think it’s a combination of me knowing that either you have to look around yourself, and you have to think, you know, if there’s no opportunity here for me to do what I want, and you’ve you’ve opened up all doors, you’ve you’ve spent, you know, you’ve spoken to bars, you call it with ideas, you’ve you’ve done whatever you can try and create opportunity in the organization or in and then you’ve got to leave and you’ve got to go, I find that somewhere else, you’ve got to create these opportunities for you. And I think that that’s definitely really helped me sort of, you know, and it takes ages, it takes such a long time to realize that you want that you you know that you need to leave and to actually go and do it. I mean, it’s hard. It’s really hard.
David Ralph [12:17]
And it is, isn’t it because you’re comfortable, you know, the people around you, you know, the commute. It’s every job you go into, and well certainly I’m speaking about myself and I did many, many corporate roles. I think in the first six weeks, I had that should I phoned up my old company and been asked my job back, I don’t think I love this because it’s all new to me, I don’t really know what I’m doing. And when you ease into it again. And it is it’s incredibly difficult. And you can understand why certain people stay at jobs for so long, even though they’re unhappy. Because in their head, they think, well, it’s an unhappiness I know about why should I put myself in a position of happiness, that’s going to be potentially worse. But it could be better as well. Because
Sophie Radcliffe [13:01]
it could be better. Yes, you absolutely have to have that mentality, there’s no reason why things should be worse. If you want them to be better, they will be better. You know, it takes work. And there’s ups and downs the it? You know, it actually does. And I think you’re absolutely right, it’s really difficult. The thing that I found the most difficult is that leaving jobs, especially in companies where there is career progression, there’s you know, there’s, there’s, well, it says talking generally, I would just talk about MF Global, which is my sort of last corporate job if you like, before I then started on a whole new path in life. And leaving there was was was, you know, I mean, it was such a difficult decision for me, because I joined the company, when and there were there were sort of the founding board of six, six of my directors, and then about three or four other people which I was one of them. So it’s very much the early stages of the business. And I’ve worked for the bosses of the company before I’ve seen how they build and grow and scale the company and, and do that extremely quickly and extremely successfully. And, and this one was sort of, they wanted to do what they’ve done in the previous company, but on steroids, you know, they wants to do so. So fantastically. And I from the outset, there was this real real drive and ambition to become, you know, the world’s best company in x markets and in doing what we did, and, and, and we did that. And so over three years, I was that the you know, I was I was leading I started off in India, doing business development, then I started running my own team running my own division, and I was running growth, the question division for for the business. And, and when I decided, in the end, I need to leave that what I walked away from was huge. And it wasn’t just walking away from the fastest growing up the fastest growing technology startup in the UK at the time, walking away from a job which had fantastic salary. And I left my share options behind, I left behind everybody who I’d worked with for six years who weren’t just colleagues, they were friends real, really good friends. And, and you know, an amazing opportunities within that company. And since then the company’s gone from strength to strength to strength. And, you know, there are definitely times when I looked at that, and I think I look, it is the only time in my life where I were very clearly walked away from kind of security of what I knew I could have had. And I’m and that’s a often in life, when you’re at a crossroads, you’re sort of looking at two different options, but you don’t actually know you’re like, if I go down this road, it could happen. If I go down this road, and this could happen, you know, but it’s always good. Whereas when I was at that road, or sort of if I stay here, this will happen will be success, money, career progression, security, and all the rest. But if I go down, if I leave here, and I forge a new path, doing, which I had that moment, when I left, I had no idea what a new path was going to be no plan. And I bet if I go down here, then then you know what enticed me to go out to leave and to start a new park was that though there’s this whole world, I mean, you know, when we’re in offices, our world becomes so small. And I wanted to literally open myself up to the world. I was like, there’s so much exciting stuff going on, in so many different countries. And and actually, I want to be a part of that I want to go and see what I could create for myself. If I if I’m not here, and I knew as a huge risk. I really I know how much I walked away from but I believed that it was it was worth it. It was something that I should guarantee
David Ralph [16:55]
when when you get that decision in your head, and there’s no doubt that was the right decision. And you should never look back. Just the fact that I’m looking at your skype profile. And it says one life, live it that says everything about you. And I think with that fire burning inside you, you would have got to middle aged, and then you would look back and thought, damn, damn, I should have done it. So I think it was totally the right choice. But when you were doing it, how did you overcome the anchors that the people in the office that were saying to you? And I assume they were saying to you and your mom and dad? Probably Sophie, what are you doing? You’ve got security here, you’re doing really well for yourself? You know, why? Why are you doing this? Did you have those kinds of conversations with people?
Sophie Radcliffe [17:39]
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I remember I mean, I, I tweet, we, you know, with the unhappiness and unhappiness on one side, I was really unhappy. But outside, I just felt that fire inside me, it was never stronger. So just to kind of go back a little bit. Over the last, you know, five or six years over my career, I’d started doing these, these challenges, these physical challenges adventures that you mentioned at the beginning of the show. And those really, really ignited that fire inside me. They saw my weekends and my holidays, I would go out into the mountains into the world. And I would set myself these massive challenges. And I would come back and I would feel so confident and that and so resilient. So motivated, I was just like, I had this thing burning inside me and I wanted to, to plow that into the projects that I worked on into what the areas I spent my life I dedicated my life to. And at the time, why did it was my job. And so I come back to work. And I always say, guys, look, you know, I’ve been doing this job for 30 years now, I really feel like I can do more, I really feel I can add more value, these all the ideas, these all the things I really want to do, can I didn’t and every time I came up with a brick wall, that’s great. But actually, no, we just want you to do this. And so that created this real unrest inside of me because I had this fire burning. And and yet I hadn’t I didn’t have an outlet to plow into. So you know, and, and so what happened was I kept thinking I should leave, I should leave, maybe I should leave and or you know, are just trying to find new ways around it. And I always put up barriers my mind, you know exactly what you’re saying, You can’t be because of the money. It always came down to the money, it always came down to the money. And, and when I started to speak to my family, about the fact that I was really unhappy down, I really did want to leave. It came down to the money again, I remember and it was actually one of the conversations I had with someone who’s very close to me. And I I explained the situation and I said look, I think I might I might be and I think that I might just leave and and he said to me will What are you going to do? I said I don’t know, today, but I’m going to go and figure it out. I don’t want to penis is not right for this job to make me feel the way I feel right now. And I thought for a while. And and they said to me, should you wait until you you bought a house and you’ve got a mortgage, you know, and and then and then go under? And and I just said no, because then I’ll be waiting for the rest of my life. Oh, when I get more commitments that would tie me down even further. And then the conversation, what they said to me was what you’re what you’re talking about doing, that’s the dream. That’s what everybody wants to do that everybody wants to just quit their jobs and just, you know, hope that it all works out and going for departing, something they really passionate about. And that was a really key turning point in my mind. And I thought, well, if it’s the jury, then I’m going to go make that happen.
David Ralph [20:47]
Absolutely. And it’s amazing, isn’t it that people have dreams. And when when you were a child you say to them, you know, what, what do you want to be what you want to be and he took a group of five year olds, and they all say you know I want to be a pretty says I want to be an astronaut. I want to be amazing things. And when you say to someone have a 16 year old, you know what do you want to be done really know. And it just kind of goes somewhere. And there were there is a transition in your sort of growing up. But realism gets drummed into somehow. And the real dream is in live a looked at as kind of mad somehow you know why you can’t live on dreams, you can’t survive on dreams. But if anything’s been proved in this show, you can and you get a dream and you work harder than you’ve ever worked towards it. And maybe you’ve got a good chance of achieving something. And it might not be where you want to go at the beginning. But more often than not, you find the path that you just didn’t expect. And it becomes even more a fire that burns inside you. The thing that amazes me with you, Sophie is not you at all, I think you are amazing. And I think there should be more people. But when you said Isn’t it amazing the companies that allow people like you to leave? It’s just bizarre, but they do but you’ve got somebody that is creative, risk taker, focused, all those things that you would want, and they still allow you to walk out the door. It seems bizarre, it seems totally bizarre. And companies are missing a trick.
Sophie Radcliffe [22:18]
It does. I don’t know. I it’s a you know, it’s an interesting question. I don’t know why they sort of let me leave. And I had a conversation recently with some of my work colleagues about it.
David Ralph [22:28]
And do you still see that work? colleague said,
Sophie Radcliffe [22:31]
Yeah, I do. I do. And I was really nice. We met up last week, actually. And some of them said to me, You left too early, you should have tried harder weakness you wish you’d never left. And I just said, you know, honestly, I tried everything I could. But does it there’s there is a part of me that thinks that they, they just knew they knew me. And they knew that I that I was I was I, you know I needed to go and because they didn’t have what they couldn’t give me what I needed within the funny. And that’s the thing is you, you know, this whole sort of situation of, of people kind of as awkward as like the whole situation, people getting fired from jobs and this that the other, it seems crazy, it should really be a conversation, if you have an open conversation, when you join a company, between you and the company and the managers of Look, the company needs this. And you as a person want to get this. So it might be that you want to add some money, you might want to get some more qualifications, you get some experience. And then later on down the line, they’ll come a point where you’ve achieved all of that, and you’ve done everything that the company wanted us to do, and you want to do something else. Yeah, the company, perhaps they need to see that thing, or whatever it is, and people start getting too motivated, because they’re bored in their work. Or they, you know, they don’t have a vision for the future. They can’t see where they’re going. And, and that’s just really stale. And it’s really bad for you and for the company. So in my opinion, there should be a conversation that happens then, when you sit down and you say, look, this is what I want for the future. Can you as a business offer this to me? And if they say no, then you need to, you need to realize that you need to move on at you. I see so many people who talked to me about being D motivates their jobs and this kind of thing. And it’s it’s 100% understand where they’re coming from. But I think we need to really see look our situations, we can’t just expect that just because we want something that the people we work for are going to give it to us. And and if it if it’s not an offer where we are, then we need to go out there and find it from somewhere else.
David Ralph [24:38]
Absolutely. I’m gonna play some words now that really talks about that moment in your life, that leap of faith when you didn’t know what you wanted to do. But you were going to work on working it out, I suppose. This is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [24:50]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. When I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [25:17]
That is exactly where you were isn’t it those words, they could they could have stopped the word Sophie on the end.
Sophie Radcliffe [25:23]
He’s he’s he I absolutely loved I played people all the time. It’s it as he played it and shivers down my spine made the head rise in the back of my neck. It’s it’s phenomenal, isn’t it? It’s just, you know, hearing that from someone like Jim Carrey, the way he says is so true. It’s so true. I play every single day. And even though I know those last four words, I listen out for them. And when they hit, I had that same effect on me. And it does. It’s like adrenaline to the veins. I think if anyone is out there, and they listen to those words, and they listen to those closely, and they don’t react in a positive way, then they really need to look at themselves, they really need to look whether they’ve they’ve closed off, they’ve died inside, because we should all have the life that we want. And it doesn’t matter. But if you know, to go off and climb mountains and do what you want to do, but everyone should be happy shouldn’t know. And by taking choices, being bold, being courageous, I believe everyone can be happy, whether working for a company, doing their own thing, climbing up mountains, even in relationships aren’t working, you can make those decisions to be happy. And that’s, that’s, that’s the key thing in life. And it Sophie,
Sophie Radcliffe [26:39]
it obviously is that it is those words that you said make those decisions. You know, I would say like and make those decisions, that’s that’s what we all need to do. We you know, it’s easy to sort of moan and to go and talk to your friends and in the day, but you’ve got to keep making decisions moving forward, taking baby steps. And because that’s the only way and and you know, I think it’s just that it’s just one of these things that we feel scared about doing. Of course, we feel scared about doing. So I guess the advice would be to surround yourself around people who believe in you who are there to pick you up if their decisions don’t work to support you no matter what. And, and, and, you know, be around people who have made decisions and and, and can share those experiences with you.
David Ralph [27:26]
The interesting thing with your life or we were talking about MBA, if you get that, that that crossroads, you’ve got that decision, you want to do more yet you’re enjoying your weekend, you’re being challenged. For many people, it’s the dream, but it’s your dream. And it’s a dream you’re going to go for when you quit that you didn’t instantly go to where we are now doing all these amazing things, you kind of almost went back to doing what you were doing before. But that seems like a common trait as well. People know what they want inside, but they can’t quite find the angle to bring it forward. So how did you go about moving forward to where we are now?
Sophie Radcliffe [28:06]
Well, so I’ve been thinking about this. And there’s a big difference between doing what you love and what you doing what you can get paid for. And I believe that if we work at things, that in the future, we can all get paid. And we can probably get paid more money to do the things that we really, really love than to do the things that we did in the past that we don’t, we didn’t enjoy doing. Does that make sense?
Yeah, it makes total sense. I, I know exactly what you’re saying. But expand it a bit more for the listeners?
Sophie Radcliffe [28:36]
Yeah, I was just checking that point made sense. So. So and the, in the future, I think, let’s say for example, I would I am most passionate about, and I really am trying to work on is everything that we’re kind of talking about here, you know, how can I help other people go through the same experiences, and to really like unleash their potential and explore what they want to do with their lives and how they can get there. But I can’t go from doing my job, and vs to making the same amount of money doing that. And because it just doesn’t work that way, you can’t, you can’t just you know, you can’t just go Great, well, I decided I’m going to leave and now I really, really enjoy, you know, making arts and crafts and I’m going to get paid those months do that you have to build it up. So there’s there’s a, there’s this transition period, and for me, the transition period was one I had to get comfortable with, with with the unknown, you have to get comfortable every single day not having a security you had before when you had a job. And I find that really difficult to begin with, because I was used to having this platform of Okay, you know, I knew I was getting a salary, I knew I could do a job I was really good at I knew everyone around me, it was a salary of security and comfort, sorry, security and comfort that I could then and then go forward and build upon in other ways in my life. And so the first day for me was actually transferring the skills and experience I had, but using that to do work that that I was more in control of so what I did is I used I built a consultancy business whereby I could go into other businesses. And, and and do work for them and help startups grow. And, and that was a transition, I felt because, you know, I was in control, I was working for myself, I was working, you know, flexible, flexible hours. And you know, and I was going out there and hunting for that business and having to sell myself every time rather than, you know, just doing the same job every day. And at the same time, I use my spare time to start building on the other skills that I love. So I started to write my blog, and I started doing some some writing. And you know, and I’m doing more of these challenges, and same time fueling everything, all my other passions, and that were going on. And then I would say probably a year later. So in 2014, there’s been a transition between me doing less of the startup consultancy work, and earning more money from doing the things that I mentioned, such as writing blogging, more challenges, you know, what brand ambassador opportunities and brands, leading challenges, leading events, all these all these different kinds of things, which I would say are 100% my passions and, and things that in the past, I would only have dreamt of being able to be paid to do. And so, so. So that’s it. So I think it’s a you’ve got to had to kind of play the long game and to see how it works in stages. And it takes is just baby steps, just just literally just building your everything you do you see it as a building brick building your palace, and some of them are small, some of them are big bricks, but they’re all building and just long as you keep doing that keep moving things forward and and building on what you’ve achieved before then then you will get there in the end. But it will really it really does take a long time this is taking it’s taken me a long time. And it will it’s a long term project. But that’s life, isn’t it, you’ve got to look long term to the future and think, Okay, well, in 10 years time, I want to be an expert in this. And I want to get paid to do that. But last 10 years away, I’ve got a lot of words, put him before them.
David Ralph [32:21]
That is absolutely perfect. And I think that really does. But that’s one of those speeches, but I wish I could edit out and have it everyone out there because there’s no quick route. There’s no overnight success. And he annoys me and I talked about it a lot. I call it The X Factor syndrome, where you only have to do three songs, and then suddenly you’re playing Wembley Stadium. It doesn’t happen in life does it you’ve got to put the work in when I started this show I knew about I would work for over two years without any money at all, because I knew that I had to grow it. And I first of all, I had to grow the links, I get guests, but I had to grow the audience, when I had to grow the belief in the platform, and all those fans, and it’s not going to happen overnight. But little by little if you’re in, if you’ve got that passion and you’re willing to work at it, you’re going to get there. But that is the problem with life. Generally people see the end product, they see what you’re doing. They see what I’m doing. And I go to do that. But they don’t see all those early mornings, those late nights, those chipping away chipping away those moments when you’re on the sofa, and you’re half watching a film and in your head, you’re thinking, I don’t know if I can do this anymore, you know, I’m not getting any momentum at all. Okay, I know, I will keep on doing it. And then suddenly, three days later, you suddenly get a lucky break and things move on again. It’s all those things that add up to what you’re saying, isn’t it?
Sophie Radcliffe [33:44]
David Ralph [33:46]
Where do you have fat? support network? I know you got the people around you. Is your husband, a great one for when Sophie, speeding down when Sophie doesn’t want to get out of bed sort of literally says Come on, Sophie, this isn’t you keep going keep going keep going? Or do you have moments in your life when you allow to? You know, play the victim mode? You wallow in it a little bit? Put some sad music on?
Sophie Radcliffe [34:11]
Sophie Radcliffe [34:13]
yeah, of course. I mean, everyone’s definitely allowed to have you got to have time off, you absolutely do. I think that’s the one thing about and, you know, that we all need to be aware of with sort of social media and, and that kind of thing, or, you know, because I have an online platform, so I’m active on social media, you can see what I’m doing on my blog, I during the day, even though I try to be human as possible, and try to write and, and share the highs and the lows, and and all this stuff in between when times when things go wrong. Or when I when I can’t do something, again, the day I still only share what I want you to see. And we can forget that it’s so easy to go on someone’s Instagram account and be like, Oh my gosh, they have the most amazing life. You know, they’re so they’re so they’re so that or I didn’t there is one picture, which probably takes one second out of the whole 24 hours in a day. You know, you have no idea what’s going on the rest of the time. And and I think that’s really important for us all to remember. Because otherwise we can we can kind of encourage this feeling in ourselves that we’re not doing enough. We’re not enough. We’re not we’re not you know, we’re not achieving enough, not a fit enough, strong enough, good, whatever it is. And I think that and I get that as well. And it it really I find it really difficult. And I really need to take a nice look at myself when when I start to feel that. And
David Ralph [35:35]
so do you look at other people and kind of go out? That’s where I should be all my efforts, I should be doing what they’re doing. Now, do you have those same kind of thoughts?
Sophie Radcliffe [35:43]
Yeah, sometimes I do, especially when I’m sort of, in a time of, you know, in between different projects, or, at the moment, you know, I’ve just had a massive summer just achieved the Alpine coast to coast, which is the biggest challenge of ever done. And, you know, it’s a world first it kind of, it’s sort of, it’s something I wanted to do for years. And now afterwards, you’re left with a you know, with a big hole in your thinking, Okay, what am I going to do next? And, and, and everything? And? I know, it’s Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, we all look around what other people are doing and think, okay, you know, I need to do this when he died. And it’s just is is, and it’s difficult. But yeah, I obviously need to take that back to basics and think, look more what what you’re doing. And you need to have the belief that you are doing the best that you can, if you don’t be using the best that you can, then then by all means use other people as an inspiration and go out there and get yourself to do more. But if you really do believe you’re doing the best that you can, which most of us are, and then then you know, just take that pressure off yourself and don’t look what other people are doing. Look what you’ve achieved. And it’s hard. But you know, it’s it’s, I think it’s really important for us all to remind ourselves about our
David Ralph [37:00]
Did you think most of us are doing the best that we can because I don’t, I think the fact that you are so inspiring the fact that these shows are getting such large listening figures, the fact that there are so many life coaches out there are mentors, people trying to push people on to more than they can achieve. I think the world is is playing within itself somehow I don’t think they’re all trying to do the best that they can by any stretch of imagination.
Sophie Radcliffe [37:27]
Well, maybe you can say that, I should say I’m, I’m kind of, I’m very positive. And I always try and encourage the best out of people. So I kind of, I don’t know, I wouldn’t comment. I
Sophie Radcliffe [37:39]
didn’t go and comment. No one. No one’s listening. It’s just you and me. You know, I, you know,
Sophie Radcliffe [37:46]
I think that’s up to other people to figure out, I guess, but, you know, I just I want to encourage people and, and to show, you know, to help them, kind of build that confidence in themselves. So maybe that my compensating, you’re not doing the best that you can, you can do so much more. But I think people know that they probably don’t need to hear that from me If that’s the case,
David Ralph [38:07]
we just need over time, don’t wait, if you can’t get inspired by that first thing in the morning. That’s what we need, we need that. So So when did it sort of start coming together for you, we we’ve gone through the the process of challenging yourself getting out there hustling, transitioning between the full time job and where you want to be but it seems to me it moved on very quickly from when you became epic TV adventure startup growth consultant was that the closest to where you wanted to be was badly adopt in your life that really allowed you to, to create challenge Sophie and move on to where we’re talking today.
Sophie Radcliffer [38:50]
And f8 TV was was definitely a great step in my career, because I went there for six months. And and that was that gave me a bit of stability. That was the first time since I left MDS I had, you know, a job I did every day for five days a week. And I really loved it, it was kind of like, you know, you can just constantly push the whole time and constantly be motivated is like you said, Do you have those down days, and after, after a year of kind of, you know, a lot of not, you know, not knowing what was going on and trying out different options in this than the other. And it was so nice to have have that have that kind of security. I really enjoyed it. And, but I knew it was going to be that for long. And what what happened around that, what what started to happen. And and especially, I really found it to happen in summer 2013 was that I started to believe that challenge Sophie could turn into something really special. And I started I built a fairly, you know, a firm in a year, I got it up to 10,000 followers on Twitter. And I started getting my first sponsored actually deals with brands. And I just I’d won the big blog exchange, I got sent to Singapore for for a week on a on a on a blog exchange trip. And after only about three months of writing my blog, and just the comments, I was getting free from people that engagement rates, just everything just really made me believe, okay, there’s really something here, and this is what I want to do with my life.
David Ralph [40:36]
So you hit the tipping point where the belief and the platform come together somehow.
Sophie Radcliffe [40:42]
Sophie Radcliffe [40:44]
And I think you know, I’m not entirely sure what that is, I think that’s a really important thing that that I think maybe people struggle with as well, it’s kind of like always, you’ve got it, you’ve got to like give up control of the end result, you’ve got to you know, not only worry, if you don’t know exactly where it’s coming, you don’t know exactly who you want to be or what you want to be or what you want to be doing. Or even where you want to live, it is so difficult to know that it’s unless you’re one of those people who from the age of 14 knows that they want to be a doctor, or a you know, or a politician, or whatever it is, you’re going to you’re going to spend most of your life trying to figure that out. And that’s fine. Everybody’s in exactly the same situation. We’re all making it up not making up so wrong word. We’re figuring it out as we go along. And that’s what life is. And, and, you know, I think that’s a really, really interesting thing. Like you’ve got to relinquish control of the end, end result, you know, you’ve got to look at kind of the baby steps in between, because I saw don’t even know if someone said to me, people asked me all the time, where would you want what Where are you going? What do you want to be? You know, what are you going to do is? It’s so difficult to answer that question. So I’m still figuring that out. And, you know, and I’m looking at, okay, in 10 years in, like I said, I’d have an idea of the kind of work I want to be doing that value I want to be adding to the world, and how I want that to look, but it’s still coming together about the actual details of it all.
David Ralph [42:17]
I get that a lot of people look at the success of the show. And they say, Oh, you should be doing this, you should be doing that. And I kind of go, No, it’s not really on my radar. But why isn’t it everybody else is doing it. And again, well, just because they’re doing it doesn’t mean I’m going to do it. But I feel like many times I mean a frosted box like a shower cubicle, and I wiped down the window. And just for a second, I can kind of see where I should be aiming, and then it misses up again. But little by little, the windows are getting clearer and clearer and clearer. And when I started, I had no idea I just knew that I wanted a show. But now the show is branching out into a platform and the platform is branching out into coaching. And it just seems to be getting bigger and bigger and bigger. But I still can’t really see it. And it’s frustrating sometimes when you kind of think, oh, if I had a straight line, I could really work on this. But I just don’t really know how to do it. But it’s also invigorating, because it allows you to make mistakes. And quite often it allows you to find positives and strengths that you didn’t even know we’re there for you. And you make connections with people where you kind of go, God, if I’d gone that route, I would never met Sophie Radcliffe. And if I went for this route, I wouldn’t have done that. And I think that is where people need to have that, that faith in themselves. And those trust
Sophie Radcliffe [43:34]
you 100%. Right. And that’s it. I think maybe people, you know, don’t realize that everybody else feels the same about that kind of thing, you know, and it is, of course, it’s good to be totally focused, and but it’s really, really hard. And so do you asked me a question? I’m not sure if I answered. And then the last one was, I think I might die back to the less but
David Ralph [43:58]
so you did the last last question.
Yes, I think I’m I’ve diversity, I think often we balance it, we balance it a
David Ralph [44:06]
little bit out. Okay, so here we go. So let’s play some words that really are the theme of the show. And it says exactly what we’re talking about. When you’re on a path and you, you just don’t know where you’re heading. But when you look back and you join up the dots, when you can see this is the words of Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [44:23]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [44:59]
Um, I believe that really doesn’t make all the difference. What’s your spin on 100%?
Sophie Radcliffe [45:03]
Absolutely, is everything is another quote which says, then you should you should follow your heart because it somehow already knows what you want to do in the future. You know, and you can feel it when you talk about that fire. It might be your heart, it’s whatever your gut your intuition, but it’s inside you. There’s always something that is saying, You know what, I really want to do this, and then the the mind kicks it, or the friends kick it and they say, Oh, no, but what about this? What about that? I mean, you know, the one thing that I really like to say is that since I since I’ve left MDF and I, I’ve you know figured out how to earn money without having someone else pay me that money through through a job. I’ve learned how to make money through doing the things I’m really passionate about. I’ve now left London and I live in in the French Alps, which is my absolute dream. So where you are now. Yeah.
David Ralph [45:55]
The quality of the audio is brilliant.
Sophie Radcliffe [45:58]
Oh, wow. is so amazing. Hey, I’ve literally got I can see mom long from my garden. And, and you know, we can just like walk up. It’s just ridiculous. It’s so inspiring. And the one thing that I felt recently, I feel there’s this feeling I remember when when God forbid, I might have bumped a day or two off school, and or pull the sickie when I was younger. And you know that feeling when you feel like you’ve just broken the rules, and you’ve kind of you know, you do something that you’re supposed to do. And you’ve decided, you know what, I don’t feel like doing that I want someone else to tell me I have to go to school and listen to this, today, I’m just going to do my own thing. I feel like that every single day at the moment. You know, I feel like society told me I had to stay in a job that I wasn’t happy with, I had to work my way up the career ladder had to have someone else in control of me telling me when I had to be at work where I had to work, you know, putting all these restrictions on my life. And, and, and now I just feel like I just tune out that Warburg chucked it away, and I’m just rewriting my one. And when you take yourself out of the rules and restrictions of society, you realize that there are actually no rules, you know, all this, I can’t do that. Because of this, I you know, I shouldn’t do that. Because there’s, it’s it’s complete and utter rubbish. You know, you’re in control, this is your life, you can do anything that you want, you can you can literally do anything you want, you do not have to stay in that relationship, you do not have to stay in that job, you don’t have to earn the amount of money that that society is telling you should earn to be happy. You know, you can go live in a in a in a hippie commune, if you want to do you can do anything. But you just have to make those actions and go into it. And I promise you any, the thing that inspires me is looking at other people, and looking at them and thinking they’re living the dream, in my my opinion. And what you what you need to remember is there’s absolutely nothing that differentiates anything, what else who is doing or achieved or any doing anything else that you might want to do or have for yourself, there’s nothing differentiates them from you, apart from one thing. And that thing is they went out and made it happen.
David Ralph [48:16]
Spot on. I love that feeling about as we say in United Kingdom banking off or, or pulling a city, because I feel like that every day, I feel like I’m tiptoeing around getting key, they don’t realize they don’t realize I’m having fun, and nobody else knows it. And it took me years to realize that I could earn a living and I have fun at the same time and play and and enjoy myself. And it all comes together. And the more it comes together, the more it becomes easy. And the more it becomes easy and more it comes together and it starts to really sort of spin. But yeah, I’m like, you know, like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty, bang, bang, I’m kind of creeping around rubbing my hands together. And yeah, just actually just going from one spot to another thinking, they’re not going to stop me doing this, but they don’t know, they don’t know what I’m doing. Brilliant feeling that in there. You know.
Sophie Radcliffe [49:08]
And I think that’s everybody needs to kind of try and create that for themselves. The other thing that I think is really important is a friend of mine, and he runs his company called flow creature. And he talks a lot about being in flow. And that’s the one thing is a lot of people think, Okay, well, if I’m in this job I don’t like, and I’ve got all these things I’m really passionate about, I really love over here, I’ll just fine, I’ll just go in, I’ll just go and do that. And the thing is, we’ve got to remember as well that we need to do work that challenges us, that’s when we when we find ourselves really, really happy. And we see work that we feel comfortable we feel that we can do. But it stretches us just enough to make us ask ourselves to deliver more. And that’s how for me doing these challenges in the in the outdoors ties in with my my work in my life, because I go out and I train that that desire to challenge myself that ability to push through my limits, to take risks to you know, to overcome any obstacles I got, and I train that in the mountains, or whatever I’m doing on my weekends and my holidays. And then I bring that back to work. And then I apply that to my work or to other areas of my life. So, but I think that’s really important for us to remember you’ve got to you’ve got to search out opportunities that challenge us. And and it might be actually that you want to stay in your job. You know, I’m not saying that everyone should quit their jobs and work for themselves a tool. But what I am saying is that we should we should hunt down in whichever capacity that is situations that challenge us, because that’s what we feel like we’re really really achieving something. I think that’s, that’s probably what I’d like to share.
David Ralph [50:45]
Yeah, I’ve things I think the thing that dawned on me was when I was scared when my stomach was churning was the time that I should go for it. And that yeah, that that is I call it my stomach compass. And if I look at something and I don’t get that feeling of fear, then it’s only because I’ve already done it before, it’s in my comfort zone. But when I kind of flipping stomach, and I think oh my god, I don’t think I can do this. That’s the thing that I think No, that’s that’s what I’ve got to do. And it’s difficult, it really is difficult. But the more you do it, the more you build confidence. And the more you you lift the bar and the more you realize that actually, your hustle muscle is getting stronger. And it’s not as challenging. And I’m sure if you speak to the sort of the real Uber successful people, they’ve still got their challenges, they still have those scary moments, they still have those things where they’ve been, can I can I actually do this? Because it’s just new, isn’t it? It’s exactly like I said, first six weeks of a new job, you walk to work, you think I don’t think I can do this. Everything in life is exactly the same. So with your challenges, where where is it now because I look at the list. And it’s kind of amazing what you’ve done. And we’re recording this today when the 200th show has just gone now. And we’ve got a gentleman called Sean Warner on the show. And he is the first cancer survivor who survived cancer twice to be up on all the peaks on Earth. So he’s done Everest, he’s done. South America, North America, the North Pole, and all those kind of things. And he’s only got one lung. And he just challenges himself challenges himself. And he says, really, you choose something and you go for it. And you will have those moments when you go, I can’t physically do this. But when you realize you can, and you can always go one step further. So where are you now? Because the things that you’ve done, I look at it and think, Oh, God, I couldn’t do that. But you’ve already done them. So what are you pushing towards?
Sophie Radcliffe [52:46]
Exactly, as you said, is baby steps I can remember very clearly when, when I couldn’t, you know, when running three miles was like the biggest mountain, my mind is going to hurt like hell, you know, and it’s just, it’s just baby steps. Now I can just go and run faster. And you know, it doesn’t really bother me, and that you just build on that it’s taken me years. And so I’ve just finished the outline coast to coast, which was a way the world fast to cycle the length of the Alps and climb the highest mountain in each country, each Alpine country. And so they kind of be expedition, you just just talking about that, Sean, it’s sort of the European version of that. And I but I cycled in between wild and flying.
David Ralph [53:29]
Boise that’s the world first, because I would have thought somebody’s done that before.
Sophie Radcliffe [53:34]
Yeah, I think that well, it’s quite unique kind of combination of of sports. So I think that’s a lot of people, you know, kind of stick to sort of either running or mountaineering or cycling. But yeah, I mean, it’s, I absolutely loved it, it was it, like you said, What happened on that was, every single day, I set my that why didn’t stop myself, but the challenge, put something in front of me that I thought I can if I can do it, and then you overcome it, and you find that if you just keep going, actually, if you just keep going, you can do it, you know, you’re you’re you get to the point where normally you’d stop from fatigue or from your body hurting too much. And you just, you just find a way around, and you just keep if you just keep going, then you’re going to get there in the end. And so it’s it is one of these things that afterwards, everybody wants to know, what’s next, what’s the next big thing and, and you know, what the next big thing for me is just enjoying life. And you know, I’ve just moved to Germany, and I actually I’m binding at the moment, and it’s been quite difficult, because having achieved so many big things recently, then that starts to kind of unsettled the balance of satisfaction from the smaller things. And it’s a smaller things that really count, you know, those the small things that just those small goals, those mode, you know, like moments in life and, and so that’s it for me, actually, the next big thing for me is just enjoying living in this new environment and spending time with my husband, who is so incredibly supportive. I mean, he, you talk about surrounding yourself with the right people. I mean, he is named Charlie, and he’s just, he’s he was the one who said to me, you can do this, you can leave your job. And yes, you can run your own business, you can go on this this adventure with me as
David Ralph [55:32]
well. Does he sort of do the same kind of things?
Sophie Radcliffe [55:35]
Yeah, he does. But both of us, you know, we used to live in London, and we were we were party animals. And we’d go to the pub all the time. And, and we both started getting into this outdoors stuff at the same time. And he’s, he’s a climber. So he now you know, loves being in Germany, so we can go climbing. And but it’s become part of our lives together. And that’s something that we’ve, you know, I think we’re very fortunate about that we I kind of saw the same vision for our future, and that we wanted to live abroad, and we wanted to focus on the outdoors, because I guess that’s the that’s the part that, you know, inspires us to really go out there and live it. I just
David Ralph [56:14]
sort of reflecting back on what Sean said in Episode 200. And I’ll be interested if you have the same, but he gets questioned literally every day. What’s next? What’s next? And so now he sort of says, What’s next for you? And he kind of throws it back on them? Do you do you feel that as well about people are inspired by your challenges. So they want to push you on to greater and greater things, so that they kind of almost feel that they’re not able to do what you’re doing? Because he kind of he was quite open with the band. He said, most of the people could do what I do. But I choose not to. And by asking me to do bigger and bigger things, it’s actually pushing that ability to do what I do even further away from them. So they feel safe in that. Do you understand what?
Sophie Radcliffe [57:02]
Absolutely, it’s, it’s, you know, people put you on a pedestal and they say, Oh, I never do that. Or, you know, they think you must be super fit or have had something different that you know, people will love and that’s why people play the lottery because they they love to think that luck comes into it. And it doesn’t as his quote, it says, the harder I work, the luckier I find myself being you know, it’s it’s, it’s, you know, luck is in my opinion, it’s it’s where preparation meets opportunity. I’m sure you’ve had a lot of people talk about that before. And it’s those people say, Oh, you’re so lucky that you can go and do this, the people who will never go out and do that themselves. And the people who really understand that there is really no such thing as luck, that the other ones that that you know, are prepared to go and put the work in themselves too.
David Ralph [57:50]
So just before we send you back in time, at the end of the show on the Sermon on the mic, the last question, really? And this goes out to all the listeners, Sophie Radcliffe, do you think everyone ever kick ass life? If I want it?
Sophie Radcliffe [58:02]
Yes, of course.
David Ralph [58:04]
There you go. You’ve heard it from her get out there and start doing stuff. And it doesn’t have to be world changing. It can just be something, it could be a different route to work, it could be a different coffee, just change your routines, change your situation. And then you’ll find that little things start to occur. And it’s, it’s like magic. It’s magic. But you get that personal belief. And once that personal belief kicks in, then really, I’m telling you listeners, you can do anything you absolutely can do anything. Right? Well, this is the part of the show that we call the Sermon on the mic. And this is when we send you back in time to have a one on one with yourself. And if you could go back in time, Sophie and speak to the younger version, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give? Well, we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the theme tune. And when it Phaedra up, this is the Sermon on the mic.
Sophie Radcliffe [59:16]
I’d actually like to go back to myself right now, right here right now and say say that living in the present is is all that counts. And I think that something I touched on earlier about looking at what other people are doing or looking at what we can what I can achieve in the future. None of that matters. I need to you know, we all need to unleash take stock of what is going on right now what’s already happened and to value and to appreciate that because there is there is absolutely no point in any of us achieving anything. If when we get that we already want to be somewhere else. And I think that’s really, really important to that well, I would like to share because I see that happening a lot with with people. And I was explained to something that I’ve experienced too. And, and I think that we you know, we really need to make sure that that we always appreciate where we are and what’s going on, so that we can use that to drive ourselves forward in a really positive way.
David Ralph [1:00:20]
I was speaking to a lady last night who said exactly the same thing, basically she said, Unless we are grateful for the now we’re not in a position to move forward to the next part. Exactly. I love that. Sophie, how can our audience connect with you.
Sophie Radcliffe [1:00:37]
And what I’d absolutely love to hear from any of you. And I’m very active on Twitter, which is at challenge Sophie, and my blog is www dot challenge sophie.com and also on Instagram and Facebook, which are the same basically forward slash challenge safety. So if you just take a go, you’ll be able to find me and yet please do get in touch. If you want to talk to me about anything that’s going on in your life or, or you know any of the challenges that I’ve done that might inspire you to go out and do them and just know that I’m a I’m a normal person with a big drive and and that everything comes from small beginnings.
David Ralph [1:01:18]
Absolutely. We have all the links on the show notes. Sophie, thank you so much for spending time with us today joining up those dots and please come back again when you have more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up those dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Sophie Radcliffe Thank you so much.
Sophie Radcliffe [1:01:35]
Thank you so much. It’s been such a pleasure David I’ve really enjoyed being on the show and I hope that your listeners have got something out of it David
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