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Introducing Liz Goodchild
Liz Goodchild is todays guest on the join Up Dots business coaching podcast interview.
She is a lady who from her base in South London, is bringing lightness and a purpose to clients, friends and colleagues everywhere.
She is a positive person, who thrives on the simple things in life.
Likes nothing more than getting her running shoes on and pounding the streets of London and beyond, whilst inspiring ladies to do the same too.
She is a coach, mentor, runner, blogger and best of all…no I shouldn’t say this but an avid listener of Join Up Dots with David Ralph.
Now if this sounds like a lady who has had everything go swimmingly in her life then think again, as 14 years ago, her mum killed herself, and in our guests own words…..
“To say my world shattered into a million tiny pieces would be an understatement. After her death, I shut down – deciding to stay small – I couldn’t bear the thought of living the life I wanted to live, for fear of my world blowing apart again.
And so I lived like this for many years, working in unfulfilling corporate jobs and feeling like I wanted to crawl under my desk every day and cry.
How The Dots Joined Up For Liz
It was through a mixture of years of therapy and coaching that I began to emerge from my sleepwalking-through-life lumber and start to recognise that life had so much to offer, so much possibility and joy, and it was down to ME to find it inside myself to live the life I wanted.”
And that is the key message to the shows we deliver
It is down to me, you, and all of us to encourage each other to find the lives we want, and get the dream that we deserve.
But more than anything it is down to wanting something so bad that we wont stop until we get it.
So does she look back at her life as one of two halves now?
And where does shed the ability to tackle clients issues head-on, when she has dealt with so much herself in her life?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only Liz Goodchild.
During the show we discussed such weight topics with Liz such as:
Why it is so important to be aware of the resistance that we have going on in our heads and can hold us back from greatness.
Why so many people aren’t living small, they are just not aware that they can live so much bigger, and should live as big as they can get.
How the successful people in life seem to have so much more time to do the things that they love…yep they still have 24 hours a day.
Why she now believes that she is close to the person that she should be everyday, and is loving it so much.
How to get going in life, by changing direction, changing routine and doing one thing differently and then another and another.
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Audio Transcription Of Liz Goodchild Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello there. Good morning everybody and welcome to Episode 250 of join up dots Panama City like that I just feel I feel all DJ this morning I thought I’d put in that extra spin into it. It’s the third of January. So how many of you have stopped your resolutions already we will be touching on the kinds of things that we plan when we go into a year and we drop very very quickly. And we got a lovely lady today she is a guest who from her base in South London is bringing lightness and a purpose to clients friends and colleagues everywhere. She’s a positive person who thrives on the simple things in life and likes nothing more than getting a running shoes on and pounding the streets of London and beyond. While inspiring ladies to do the same to she’s a coach mentor run a blogger and best of all now shouldn’t say this but an avid listener of join up dots we’ve David Ralph Can you imagine it? Now if it sounds like a lady who has add everything goes swimmingly and I like them think again as bolting years ago. Mom unfortunately killed herself in our guest own words to say my world shattered into a million tiny pieces would be an understatement. After her death, I shut down deciding to stay small. I couldn’t bear the thought of living the life I wanted to live. But favorite, my world blowing apart again. And so I live like this for many years, working in unfulfilled in corporate jobs and feeling like I wanted to crawl under my desk every day and cry. It was a mixture of years of therapy and coaching that I began to emerge from my sleepwalking through life lumber, and start to recognize that life had so much to offer so much possibility and joy, and with down to me to find the inside myself to live the life I wanted. And that is a key message to the shows we deliver it down to me, you and all of us to encourage each other to find the lines we want and get the dream that we deserve. But more than anything is down to wanting something so bad, but we won’t stop until we get it. So does she look back at her life as one of two harps now? And where does she shed the ability to tackle clients issues head on when she has dealt with so much herself in her life? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start join up dots with the one and only Liz good child. How are you?
Liz Goodchild [2:37]
I’m very well thank you. How are you David
David Ralph [2:39]
I’m extremely well, I’m extremely well, I was saying now I’m not going to talk about my illnesses again, because I get told off for saying that. I record so many shows. And you don’t realize that when you say these things, it’s out there forever. So when people sort of listening back to the shows, it sounds like I’m ill all the time. I’m not I’m not so but there’s an undercurrent lyst there’s an undercurrent I might be going down.
Liz Goodchild [3:00]
Well, I’ll tell Jim green smoothies all the way they sought you out.
David Ralph [3:04]
They do that we were talking about this just before we were recording and if they sound disgusting green smoothies, what goes into them because generally, as a kid, I quite like my age I but as a kid, the green things are the things you run away from. So is it kind of like cabbage and Brussels sprouts and No. green stuff?
Liz Goodchild [3:24]
No, that sounds awful. No. green smoothies. I have one every day and in a green smoothie. I put Apple pear spinach, ginger, celery, bit of water. Yeah, and then blend it all up and drink it. It’s an acquired taste, but I’ve not had a cold in probably about a year. So
David Ralph [3:45]
the acquired taste, it takes a while to build up don’t know.
Liz Goodchild [3:49]
Yeah, absolutely. It’s not it’s not it’s not, you know, the nicest thing. But um, you know, if you wash it down with a coffee afterwards, it makes it all worthwhile,
David Ralph [3:58]
but doesn’t say a lot about you character that you will persevere with something that maybe is harder than most people would normally want to do. If you drinking something that’s not very nice. You probably drink it once and give up on it. But you’re willing to go with it, go with it, because you know that the end product is going to be worthwhile is that is that kind of character trait?
Liz Goodchild [4:17]
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I would say that that’s a real character trait, not not a character trait I’ve always had, but I would say in the last, you know, five or six years, it’s something that I’ve always, you know, it’s been quite integral to my life and my character of often, we face a lot of resistance in our life, whether it’s drinking a green smoothie every morning, even though it’s pretty gross. But for you know, long term results, or, you know, going to the gym or putting your running shoes on and going for a run and will always be met with resistance when we start out and pretty much every time we do something. So it’s definitely something that I hold, you know, really, really close to me in terms of how I live my life nowadays. So what what
David Ralph [5:05]
is resistance because we’re going to touch on your life. But this is a key point. And this is something that holds so many people back and probably they’re not even aware that it’s occurring around them. So explain what resistance is to the to the listeners.
Liz Goodchild [5:19]
I think resistance is that little voice that we all have. And if you aren’t aware of that voice in your head, I think you just need to stay silent for 30 seconds and observe what’s going on in your head. And it’s that voice that says things like, Oh, you know, maybe you should stay away from the gym today? Because you’ve got to do the washing up? Or do you really want to go out running and it’s raining? Or? Or these green smoothies that you drink? Are they really good for you? They’re pretty gross, you know, why don’t you have a big bowl of cereal instead. So it’s that voice that really keeps you from doing things that may not be the most attractive things to do or their hard work and I really believe that voice is there ultimately to to protect us so our brain is although you know a massively interested in complex machine inside our head. It’s also quite lazy and likes to keep us comfortable. So you know, going to the gym, the thought of going to the gym often sends our brain into a little bit of a spin because it you know, it pushes us outside of our comfort zone and it does everything it can to keep us on the couch. And you know that’s why by about the 18th of January gyms are empty, because people have listened to that voice and given up Really?
David Ralph [6:35]
I’ve never been to a Jimmy life.
Unknown Speaker [6:37]
Well, there we go.
David Ralph [6:39]
And I can’t imagine anywhere worse to be me. I’ve got this theory about gyms and I don’t know where I get these babies from. But I just think that this is like a herd mentality. Surely Jim is a kind of a more recent thing. And from the moment of cavemen example, cavemen, they didn’t sort of go on now, I’m not gonna kill the antelope today, I’m too tired. They were just going out there and did it. And I think there’s a lot of time, but life can keep you fit, that you don’t actually have to go to a gym. And I think the fact that you’re going to a gym kind of parcels that effort into something, which, if you were just more active on a daily basis, you would take it anyway.
Liz Goodchild [7:19]
Yeah, I agree. I’m not a big gym goer at all. I’ve dabbled and but it’s something that I’ve never really enjoyed, you know, I much prefer running just, you know, stepping outside of my front door and, and going out and running, then then go into the gym. But I guess you know, for some people, they don’t have that option. And the Jim it is, and then there was a study done recently, an American study that said that if you don’t act upon a thought within, I think it’s about 6.5 seconds, the resistance kicks in. So that looks like waking up in the morning, turning your alarm off, and just getting up robot mode almost, and putting your gym shoes on and you know, going to the gym or having your breakfast, but really just acting, acting straight away, as opposed to lie in there thinking oh, well, maybe I could go later or whatever. So yeah, there’s actually a study done now about resistance. And that, yeah, we have about 6.5 seconds to push through it, or we’re kind of in trouble.
David Ralph [8:23]
You’re very focused on the kind of positive vibe, getting out there running all the kind of things that are good for you. But in the introduction for a long time, you were sleepwalking through life is your positivity now. And you’re kind of studious side to the facts and figures that you just sort of through letters, is that directly reflective of that period of time? Or were you like that, as a small child lost it and then came back to it?
Liz Goodchild [8:50]
I think I was like that as a small child, apparently, when I was born, my parents both looked at me and said, Oh, my God, is it got to do with this baby. And I was, you know, I was quite a character from being young. And I think that I was always quite strong minded, and, you know, quite a positive kid. And I was very, very interested as a child in in the way people worked and, and as in, you know, in their brains they worked and why we are the way that we are and things like that. And I guess I was a real observer of, of people. And, you know, wasn’t always the popular kid at school, I kind of stood on the sidelines and observed a lot. And I think I’ve always, I’ve always been like that. And then it was only really, when I was 18. And my mom died, that that part of me was lost, really. So I kind of, I kind of shut down like, you know, the switches going off on a switchboard, because I was so devastated by her death and the situation, you know, around her death, you know, with her suffering from depression for such a long time. And I think at that moment, I decided that the only way to really get through life was to, you know, to shut down to not really put myself out there and, you know, do new things. And although when she died, I was living in France, actually, I was massively into snowboarding at the time. And I did go back to France, but there was definitely something in me that kind of, yes, started to just stay small and not really not really put myself out there.
David Ralph [10:42]
Did you think people generally like to stay small, because I think they do now doing the show, I’m surrounded by people who want to be big. And quite a lot of times, they talked to me and I stay silent as they’re talking to me. But I think this is a bit mad, because I’m, I’m not at the point of wanting to be as big as VR, but they are kind of gone off the scale somehow. And did you think that generally, people are surrounding themselves by small thinkers, and they’re not even aware, but they got this possibility of getting bigger than they possibly thought was possible?
Liz Goodchild [11:15]
Yeah, I think that people do remain small. And, like you said, you know, that perhaps not really aware of it. And I think, you know, something that I want to make clear here is, is that, you know, living a big life or living, you know, exciting life looks very different to some people. So, you know, to some a big life is, I don’t know, kind of live in under the radar, and, you know, not really engaging in, in society as it is, you know, really doing their own thing and kind of wandering off and into the mountains of India and stuff like that, and really live in a life like that, whereas to others, you know, kind of, you know, stepping up out of their comfort zone is going to a different coffee shop in the morning or taking a different bust. work. So, you know, it’s really different, but I do think there is a tendency to, to silence ourselves to, to not step out of the box. And I think half of it is to do with what I was talking about before that our brain is actually, you know, trying to keep us on the straight and narrow so that we don’t hurt ourselves, you know, and it’s a very clever machine that tries to keep us safe. But I think also the reason that people are resistant or or unaware of, of living a life that this that bigger than the one that I live in now is because we’re told from being children, you know, to kind of stay in the crowd and stay safe. And, and we’re not really encouraged. I don’t think as a society, especially in the UK, to to really be different, you know, we try and remain like everybody else. So if you, if you step up and do something different, I think you are generally surrounded by naysayers and people who don’t really understand, you know, why you would want to live like that?
David Ralph [13:06]
Well, when you when you was a small child at school, and you were saying that you used to stand and observe. Were you aware at that time that you were different? Because you’re quite obviously are different just from hearing the way that you’re talking this morning? Was? Were you kind of focused about actually, you were never going to be part of the crowd as such?
Liz Goodchild [13:26]
I think so I don’t think it was really a conscious thing. For me, I think it was just, I was interested in how groups of people work together. So I would, and I think I was quite an intuitive child. And I, you know, would notice that certain girls would hang around with each other, and then other ones wouldn’t and how people reacted in certain groups. So you know, and I was kind of flit in and out of those groups, but I was never really attached to a specific one. And, and I yeah, I think, I think that I wasn’t really aware of being an observer, but it was just the, just the way that I was really, and I just found people, you know, fascinating. And, you know, like to watch them not in the creepy, creepy stuff go away, but I still do it. Now. You know, I’m, you know, I sit on the tube in London, which is, you know, pretty grim place, and people tend to not say much, but you know, I like to just observe people and how they are in that environment. And you know, in them conversations on the bus and things like that, I just find humans just incredibly interesting.
David Ralph [14:39]
Today, this is going to get me into trouble. So I’m gonna have to have a caveat on this. I watch schoolchildren, even when I was gonna save, that sounds wrong. But I pick up my kids, and particularly my son who’s 13, or coming up 30. And I pick him up outside of the school. And so these are like teenagers, kids that come out. And you see some of them purposefully striding along, and it looks like they’re on a mission. And then you see others basically slinking along. And I find it’s kind of fascinating. The school children age where they haven’t found themselves physically, they haven’t found themselves. And they’re kind of, you can see this some that you could almost go, she’s going to do well, just because of the way she’s walking, and there’s other ones you think, oh, what’s he going to end up he’s going to end up working in a warehouse or something. I don’t mean that sort of in a bad way. But yeah, it was all it’s almost like he’s gonna accept what comes along, instead of going out and getting it. And my son comes along, and he very much bounces along until he’s with other people. And when he’s his body language kind of moves into them as well. So if I ever slingers, he does the same kind of shuffling walk. If it’s a false positive people, he does that. I find that fascinating. So that’s not a bad thing. Is it sitting outside schools? lyst, please tell me.
Liz Goodchild [15:57]
No, absolutely not. As long as it’s all innocent.
David Ralph [16:02]
And even when he’s not at school, I still wouldn’t do it now. I keep away from it. But it is fascinating that that part of your life where you are, you go from the the young bounding around positive eight year old, nine year old that just kind of laughs and jumps around and stuff. And that the teenage years, I know, your body’s changing, and all this kind of endorphins, and hormones and stuff is all going man, but you do lose something. But there’s something that gets lost within senior school or high school as we as the Americans do it.
Liz Goodchild [16:35]
Yeah, yeah, I think we are a pack animal, really, you know, and I think that we like to stick together. And, you know, we look to others to see what they’re they’re doing. And, you know, constantly comparing ourselves and there is something you know, that feels quite difficult about standing out from the crowd. I’m being different. And it’s like, you know, you say about your son that he, he kind of blends in with whoever he is with. And we, you know, there is a tendency in all of us to do that. And I think that, you know, when you look at two or three year olds, you know, that’s the only time in our life really where we’re completely, completely unaware of blending it. And you know, and that’s why two and three year olds is such a joy to be around most of the time, because they just say it as it is. And they have no, either No, they don’t have any idea about you know, norms and what it’s like to fit in, they just do whatever they want, really don’t know. And if they want a big, you know, Patty in the supermarket that they do, and then you know, as we as we grow older, we start to realize that, you know, if we do say things or do things that are a little bit different to everyone else, that there’s there’s often a reaction to that that’s not entirely positive. So we definitely start to blend but everybody else,
David Ralph [18:01]
it would be great by winning really as adults, if, if we wanted to have a stroke, if we was in a mood, we just threw ourselves on the floor, like a two year old, a three year old and if you would know where you stood, I, I’m a married man, I probably spend more time saying you might you Okay, well, what was about with you today, man, anything else? Because you just don’t know you. There’s a vibe, there’s a all about people. But if we were like two or three year olds, where we actually just said it as it was, I’m not happy, I scream and shout and stomp my feet, it’d be an easier life somehow, one day, you kind of know that all that person is in a bad mood, that person’s a happy mood and navigate your way through easier.
Liz Goodchild [18:42]
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, that’s something that I encourage well, myself, first and foremost, but you know, those around me and my coaching clients to, you know, to be more honest, then I think that quite poetic as adults, you know, and, you know, this that whole, like, are you okay? Yeah, I’m fine. And you know that that person’s not fine. And then there’s this whole, like, passive aggressive kind of dialogue going on,
David Ralph [19:09]
three days later, when they’re doing a toast, and they suddenly go, you know, when you asked me three days ago, if I was all right, well, this is it, boom, and it comes out. And you think, why didn’t you just tell me at the time?
Liz Goodchild [19:20]
Absolutely, absolutely. You know, and that’s something that I really, you know, hold true to me. And that, you know, to be honest, to be on apologetically, me, and that, to remember that not everyone’s going to like you, and you don’t have to like everybody else. And that is just much easier for yourself first and foremost. And to be to be honest, and of course, you know, it’s not always possible. Sometimes it is, those little white lies are easier, you know, you know, do you do I look fat when I wear this? No, no, no, you know, you know, you look, you look lovely, and things like that. But you know, most of the time it is I think we’re not honest enough with with those around us, and it just creates chaos, really. And people don’t know whether they’re coming or going.
David Ralph [20:09]
Did you think the real successful people are kind of more honest, they just say as it is? Did you think they’ve got you? Do you think they got to the point where they’re not going to be harsh, they’re not going to be rude to people, but they are comfortable enough to be able to go? This is my opinion, which I suppose is, you know, that the Simon Calvin? Is he? Is he rude? Or is he honest?
Liz Goodchild [20:33]
I think he’s honest. And I think some of it, he plays up for camera, but I think he’s probably like that, in real life, too. And he, and I think what it comes down to, you know, if you look at Simon Cowell, you know, as an example, of someone who’s honest, he’s also you know, some people think he’s quite obnoxious, and he’s overly confident. But he’s a very confident man, you know, he believes in His Word, he already, you know, thinks well of himself, I was going to say highly of himself, but I think he just think highly of himself. And he, you know, he’s a very successful man who, who obviously knows what he’s talking about most of the time. And I think that that has probably come through being honest, because he has to kind of, you know, deal with people on a daily basis and say, No, you know, you’re not good enough to be that x pop singer, or, or whatever it is. Whereas if you do look at the, for example, the X Factor, which I’m sure most of your listeners know, you know, if you look at any of the judging panels on any of the X Factor shows, because sometimes are different in different countries. And the most popular judge is the honest one. And then the others are kind of, you know, they go around the houses, don’t they? They say, Well, you know, you’re very young and you’re talented. I wasn’t sure about that, you know, when you don’t get the full picture, you know, that they’re not being authentic, that they’re trying to be nice, and but they’re not being honest. And then people walk away from that thinking, Well, did he actually like, what I what I sang, or was it a bit rubbish there? So I think you know, Simon Cowell, you know, where you stand with him? He says yes or no.
David Ralph [22:13]
Do you know where you stand with lyst? Good child as well. When you’re with your clients? Is that a trait that you play? Do you have clients that you have to do the movie wash him pussyfoot around? Or do you just go straight for it not as Simon Cowell.
Liz Goodchild [22:27]
I think, Simon Cowell, look where this is gone. I’m just going to use this metaphor of Simon Cowell. But yeah, I think that, and I think that people deserve honesty. And of course, you know, with coaching, it can be a very sensitive subject. And it’s not something that I go into on the first session guns blazing. And but, you know, as I build up a rapport and a relationship with my clients, I definitely, definitely challenge them. And then I’m, you know, straight up with them, because people want to it right. I don’t think that. As I said, you know, as a society that we’re that we’re completely honest, it’s the classic, you know, how are you? I’m fine, how are you? I’m fine. But is anyone really fine these days? You know, I think there’s so much more to us than just being fine. But that’s pretty much our first response. And it’s not true.
David Ralph [23:22]
I think it’s a it’s almost a swear word now fine. It’s one of those things that it says an easy word, isn’t it? It just means But yeah, I haven’t really done anything towards today. But yeah, I’m fine. I’m getting what I expect, because I’ve never done anything to push myself into something better.
Liz Goodchild [23:41]
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And it’s something that I realized that I was saying a lot a few years ago, and I really made a conscious decision to be much more honest. You know, sometimes it’s difficult when it’s a very quick exchange. But really to say, you know, actually, you know, I’m not okay, today, or this has happened, or do you know what? I’m really, really good. I’ve done this this morning. And this and yeah, I’m feeling I’m feeling good. And I think it just gives more to the conversation than just Yeah, I’m fine. Oh, great. Well, good. That, you know, that kind of thing.
David Ralph [24:16]
I used to work with a chap called Barry homes, if you’re listening to this, Barry, this is to you. And more often than not, if I said to him, you know, you I Barry, he would go Yeah, I’m effing amazing. Or, you know, and it was really kind of forceful, but you kind of you believed him, you you believe that he set up his store to be that way, and there wasn’t going to be anything to bring him down. And as I say, to my kids, you know, my my daughter’s nine, and she’s had a bit of a rough week this week with Gail was being mean to her at school. And I’ve said to her look, you can either go to school and decide that you’re going to have a great time, because you’re you’re choosing to have a great time. Or you can go to school and slink around thinking, I’m going to be a victim, and people will pick up on that. So do you go in with different competence, or the victim mentality, and she’s kind of getting that vibe. And you can see that she’s all gets the score, guys doesn’t really want to go. But Ben goes, right. Okay, I’m going to make the effort and go in. And I think that there is a performance to life, I think there’s something that we need to almost pretend the fake it till we make it. But once you do it enough, it just naturally becomes you, you become that person. And you realize more often than not, you actually like that person because other people like that person. And when you are giving off a certain amount of belief, you’re creating a kind of a pole of belief that other people’s belief fills up around you and you end up swimming around in it is is a wonderful place. But it comes purely from mindset, you’ve got to start your own mindset, haven’t you?
Liz Goodchild [25:45]
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, definitely.
David Ralph [25:48]
Yeah. So your clients come to you I’m fascinated with is because are they people in relationship issues? Are they people that are in a career that they don’t? Like? Are they somebody that doesn’t know what they want in life? How do people find you first of all,
Liz Goodchild [26:05]
and they find me I do a lot of writing for magazines, and I also write my own blog. So I think first and foremost, they probably find me through those channels, but I guess they probably Google as well. And, and they come to me with a whole host of of everyday people, you know, issues. So some people are in a relationship, they don’t want to be in or they’re in a job that they don’t like, but they have absolutely no idea what they want to do. Some people just feel kind of heavy or way, way down, or just just stuck, you know, they don’t really know if it’s their job, or if it’s their relationship, or maybe they’re not in a relationship, but they just kind of feel like really not inspired by life. And they know that there’s more out there for them. They just don’t know quite what it is. So some people kind of turn up and they’re like, I don’t know, I don’t know what’s going on. But I you know, I need someone to talk to about this and then slowly over the sessions will will unpick it all And normally, you know, we get to the crux of exactly where it is that that feeling stuck. And then and then and then move forward from there.
David Ralph [27:22]
In many ways, because I’m I coach people through this, this this show people come to me and say, you know, will you work with me? So I do, I don’t do it a great deal of it. I’m actually going to structure a bigger platform for next year. But I find it quite easy to guess not even guest understand what’s wrong with someone. Because more often than not, it’s the same bat everyone’s feeling. It’s bad. Is there more to life than this? Was this my dream when I was an eight year old? Whereas things gone wrong? Did I make these decisions, all those kind of things that go through your head, and I’m sure the listeners out there listening to this conversation will be having those failings, but unless they are rocking and rolling, and really doing amazing stuff, when they possibly wouldn’t be listening to this anyway. They’ve done the same decision making process, they put themselves more often than not in those, those positions or situations just by what they’ve done previously. And yeah, we want to say about wait.
Liz Goodchild [28:21]
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And we are you know, and I think that there’s this belief that we look at other people who we believe are having, you know, a better or more interest in life and, and think, Oh, well, perhaps they were, you know, born differently, or they’ve got loads of money or, or, you know, well, they haven’t had these things happen to them in their life and stuff. But you know, we’re all the same. I think it’s, you know, positivity and living a life that you want to live, it’s not something that you just wake up on a Monday or you know, on New Year’s Day, and suddenly it happens again, you know, going back to what we’re talking about with resistance, it’s a you know, it’s hard work it takes time and patience and pushing through that resistance and I think that everybody feels the same. I think that people do wake up some mornings I think, you know, I don’t really know if my life is going in the way that I want and it’s a bit like physical exercise. You know, if you want to have a six pack or want to be able to run a three hour marathon, it takes physical work and so does live in a life that you want to live it takes a lot of emotional and mental work.
David Ralph [29:39]
I sing first thing in the morning it drives my family mad especially my daughters who go out that you singing all the time. And I go Yeah, where it’s a good place. I mean, I might dance I might do a little bit of a dance around the bedroom. This morning I woke up Do you remember as a child singing morning has broken Yeah, Yes, I did. I was singing that and I stopped off the board of competence morning has burger mind the first morning I got to the Blackbird. I was going after that. I couldn’t remember it. I could not remember. Can you remember it lives because it’s bothering me now? You can coach me.
Liz Goodchild [30:15]
I can’t remember it. I’m gonna have to google it after we finished talking now and then maybe we could have a little singsong
David Ralph [30:23]
we could do a charity single
Liz Goodchild [30:25]
we could we could I I’m a bit of a singer actually david i do do a bit of singing good.
David Ralph [30:31]
We could be Kylie and Jason week we could. That would be perfect when it who who’s who’s your number one artist then that that you look at? And they have got the whole package as we were talking about. They have got the talent. They’ve got the competence, the songs, they’ve got the whole thing who’s the person that you go? Yes, that person’s really nailed it.
Liz Goodchild [30:52]
And there’s a singer called Brandi Carlile. I think the North American and Canadian in listeners will probably know who I’m talking about. She’s not that well known in the UK. But she’s absolutely incredible. It’s not Belinda Carlisle has some people think she’s called Brandi Carlile and I
David Ralph [31:13]
used to fancy Belinda Carla
Liz Goodchild [31:15]
Belinda Carlisle. Yeah, where did she go? Belinda Carlisle. So yeah, and she’s called Brandi Carlile. And she’s absolutely incredible. I saw her. I’ve seen it twice now. And I saw her last year in London and she sings most you know, she she often sings without any music. She’ll do a few songs and she’s just got the most incredible voice and real estate presence and you know when someone is just so passionate about their craft that it just kind of you know, is just there’s an orbit around them I mean this you know, she lives for for her music and you know is there is a wonderful singer songwriter, and I would encourage anyone to go and see it because it a real experience. So she’s, she’s, she’s, she’s my number one, I think.
David Ralph [32:06]
And if you can’t remember name just by the best of Belinda Carlisle, because you can’t go. You can’t go wrong with Heaven is a place on earth can you
Liz Goodchild [32:15]
know help help Belinda Carlisle instead,
David Ralph [32:19]
we get back to the top. That’s what we will do. So let’s play some words that really emphasize about somebody that has found their thing. They’re doing it and I love what you said about she’s got an aura she’s got an aura about it because she’s in the right place. This is Jim Carrey
Unknown Speaker [32:36]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [33:01]
I love that. I love that more. Every time I listen to it. How does that make you feel those words? lyst
Liz Goodchild [33:09]
Oh, just yeah, I mean, it you know, it’s such a such a great speech. I was watching it the other day. And I yeah, he’s just so right. I think as well, you know, often with my coaching clients, they come to me wanting to start their own business. And you know, they’re they’re very frightened about you know, doing their own thing and moving away from the nine to five contracts. And I think you know, that’s the one of the biggest myths is that you know, we are safe in our in our jobs. You can be let go in a month and not have a job anymore. And yeah, it just, yeah, I could listen to it all day such such a powerful, powerful speech.
David Ralph [33:53]
Do you think going back to Brandi Come on in Belinda again. Brandi Carlile, and the Jim carries and the Simon cows and the Steve Jobs and all the people that have really sort of found their thing? I’m interested about that, or that you said because it is its competence, isn’t it? It’s passion, it’s infused. It’s everything that people will be attracted to. And that’s why you get some, you know, really quite ugly people getting the best looking girls in the world because they’ve got this talent, they’ve got this competence. They’ve got this all this kind of stuff. It becomes a kind of sexy, self fulfilling prophecy, doesn’t it? One, yes, everything comes together, people will look at you and go. That’s the kind of person I want. I really love him. I really like that. But I can’t really pinpoint down why they do. For example, as opposed and I’m being hopefully no one listens to this show. But I was listening to Ed Sheeran last night. Now he even you would say he’s not the greatest looking bloke in the world. But he’s got something now. But when he came on stage on the telly last night with Jesse’s guitar, you had no band, he had nothing. You fought yourself. This guy’s got it. This guy’s got that X Factor? Is that what we have to aim for? Or is that sort of a few and far between?
Liz Goodchild [35:12]
I think we can all aim for it. I think that you know, what separates most people from the edge, Sharon’s, and, you know, Simon castles and people of the world and anyone who’s kind of out there doing their thing is that they really believe in themselves. I think that that’s the key there. But they, they have this self confidence that that for most people stops them from doing things. So it’s that little voice that that little voice that says, you know, you’re not, you’re not, you’re not gonna be able to stand on stage, who do you think you are? Or you know, you’re not worthy of doing that. Whereas I think that it’s not the Ed Sheeran or Brandi Carlile, or Steve Jobs, or any of these people who are really, you know, have achieved so much in their lives. And it’s not that they don’t have that voice. It’s just that they choose to not not listen to it. And it’s how much value we put on that voice that says, you know that, you know, who do you think you are wanting to be a pop star or, or you know, create a company called apple and go on to, you know, be a billionaire or whatever, it’s, it’s that they have that voice, but they, they choose to ignore it. And they really, really, really inherently believe in in their own own worth.
David Ralph [36:35]
There’s a picture but I found the other day, and I posted it on Facebook, because I thought was fascinating. And it was Ed Sheeran, busking. And he, he looks a skinnier version of what he is now. So it’s probably about four or five years ago, and people are just walking past him in the high street. And he’s got his guitar case open as you imagine a basket word, and there was a few loose coins. And then next to the picture, there is no achievement at Wembley Stadium. And you just see, there is a journey between the two. And it was a journey that he made he he forced itself through. And I use this phrase a lot, because I love it. But Steve Martin, the comedian always says be so good, until they can’t ignore you anymore. And that’s a kind of achieve and praise, isn’t it really, he could have just gone for it gone, gone, gone through it. But while you are going for it, you’re getting better and you’re fine tuning your talents, until somebody hopefully somewhere will notice that. And then you’ve got half a chance, what you do with it after that is down to you. And you see so many times when people get to that point. And then some for some reason. It’s almost like the effort getting there burns them out. And then they can’t go to that next step. But yeah, did you think once again, that is a fair appraisal, or is that something really that just once in a blue moon, somebody comes along, and we like the joining of the dots, and we like the fact that he was standing there on the corner. Now he’s at Wembley Stadium,
Liz Goodchild [38:00]
I think that he probably had a really strong vision of where he wanted to be. And he never lost sight of that in the same way. You know, if you speak to anybody who is living the life that they really want to live, they have, or have had a very strong vision from the start of where they want to go. And that’s something that I encourage with my clients, especially those who just have no idea what they want to do with their life, to really, you know, cast aside any restrictions or things that currently hold them back, like money or time or knowledge or whatever it is, and really look ahead and say this is the person. And this is the life that I want to live. And I think you know, for people like Ed Sheeran, when he was standing on the corner, you know, a skinny little Busker, and people were probably ignoring him and walking past he probably had a vision of him standing on that stage at Wembley, and he never lost sight of it. And he just worked to that point. And I’m sure there were moments where you just thought, you know what, this isn’t going to happen. But again, it’s believing in this in that self worth that I can do this, and everybody has that within them. But most people choose to ignore it.
David Ralph [39:18]
When when you was in your sleepwalking stage in life? And did you did you have that dream that you was aiming for? Or was it just something that you, you realize that you weren’t the person that you should be?
Liz Goodchild [39:34]
And I didn’t have? Yeah, I didn’t have that vision. I didn’t have that dream of who I wanted to be that came at a later date. And, but I knew that I wasn’t living. And I knew that I was staying small. And I wasn’t really doing anything with my life. And I felt miserable, and knew that there was something out there that I wanted to do, but just hadn’t had no real idea of what that what that was.
David Ralph [40:04]
So you really did just feel that it was time to grow. It was time to get big again. The people were people that were that you were living small, or the people only see you in that way.
Liz Goodchild [40:17]
I don’t know really, I guess people did. I think they definitely notice that I, you know, I wasn’t very happy. And yeah, I guess they did notice. I think they noticed more when I stopped living like that, to be honest. Then they were like, ah, ok. So you know, this is this is the person that you you really are. Yeah, so I think that people around me probably noticed that I wasn’t, you know, doing much and really wasn’t very happy in my life, probably because I whinge all the time about how much I hated my job and couldn’t be bothered to do things.
David Ralph [40:55]
But but that’s normal life, isn’t it, we’ve all been surrounded by people that win, you speak to them first thing in the morning in the corporate gigs, they already moaning and I’ve got eight hours to go. And it’s the classic one, you know, you might as morning well would be if I wasn’t here. Well, yeah, don’t be here, then do something about it. And I haven’t little rant about this quite often. But everyone gets a job because they’ve gone to an interview, and they had sold themselves to get that job. But once they’re in that job, for some reason, they don’t realize that they can do it again. And they can go and do it again. And I will spend maybe five or six years doing jobs, they don’t like just because the spark has gone out of them. And it’s a crying shame that people don’t realize that they were the decision maker who got the job, then do something about it again.
Liz Goodchild [41:44]
Yeah, absolutely. I agree. And, you know, it is the same as when people are in a relationship, you know, they they, you know, they send the flowers and the, you know, they’re so attentive, and you know, they’re just like, you know, the perfect partner. And then, you know, six months down the line, they they stopped doing all that and, and but they are that person that is the person that they are. And it’s the same you know, when you’re in an interview, and you go out and you want that job that we lose sight of that really and and again, I think it’s because our brain likes to keep us safe. So we always have that voice that says, Oh, well, it’s, you know, better the devil, you know, or the grass is always greener or whatever else. And we, you know, we choose to stay in that comfort zone because nobody likes uncertainty.
David Ralph [42:34]
I stayed in that comfort zone for quite a while. And looking back on it. I think it was I had two young kids. And so I don’t know, I’ll wait till I get a little bit older or something. And there was always a wait, there was always something around the corner to hold me back. But when I decided then that was it was full steam. And if I look back on it, and I kind of almost wonder why false theme suddenly occurred. And I tell a story about it was just down to a manager. But I think there was more to it than that. And I still haven’t really grasped why I suddenly went, this is my moment, this is my moment, as I always sing in the X Factor or whatever. And I went for it, and I went for it. And once you go for it, and this this, this is to all the listeners out there, I’m a great believer in going for something while still doing your job. Just Just doing in the evening, or doing a lunchtime or doing a weekend, you have got so much time but you will say when you are trying to find excuses why not to do something you haven’t got. But believe me you can you can really, even if you’re doing it Saturday afternoon, instead of going down the pub and watching the football will be amazed, you will find the time if you want to do it. And once you start kicking in, then it’s not time that you’re finding it’s time that you’re you’re just it just bear and you will grow. Yeah. And your opportunity.
Liz Goodchild [44:02]
Yeah, absolutely. It’s the same with people, you know, who want to start exercise and you know, the most often thing you hear is I don’t have the time, but everybody has the time, we can find the time to do the things that we want. And, you know, it might mean that you have to get out of bed an hour earlier, or Yeah, you switch the TV off, or you don’t have a TV or so that you just you know, you’re not watching it, you know, we all have the time to do things. But again, we we kind of we lump for the what we’re used to. So we’d love for coming home, switching the TV on eating dinner in front of the TV and then go into bed and and and it because it is the easiest thing to do. There will be resistance about coming home and putting your running shoes on or you know, whatever it is or a yoga DVD and and doing that instead of watching TV, there will be your resistance of your brain screaming to you say it out, you know watch the TV instead
David Ralph [45:00]
of children going back to him and Richard Branson and Simon cow this, this is going to shock you, Liz, and I want you to jot this down, they work on the same clock as us, they had 24 hours a day. And if you look at all these people and you they seem to have more time somehow. And it’s because they structure it well, they know what they’re gonna do. And they play to their strengths. So they do the things that they are naturally good at, or they’ve developed their talents in, and all the stuff that bog you down, they get rid of it. So if you if you want to start a business, for example, and you don’t know how to build a website, get someone else to do it. But if say 300 quid, you can get a website up. And that’s out the equation, you just have to focus on doing what you want. And a lot of that is what you’ve done, isn’t it? You you’ve gone through your core strength. If we go back to the young Liz, this is this is you now this is you, as a small child, you are living what you were put on this planet to do.
Liz Goodchild [46:00]
Yeah, I really believe that. Yeah, yeah, I yeah, you’re right.
David Ralph [46:04]
Does does it excite you? Or does it because I, I now feel that I’m doing exactly what I should be doing with life? And there’s a little part of me that kind of that that negative little voice goes, Oh, you should have been doing this years ago? How did you not know you should have been doing this and been a little angel on the other side goes, Yeah, but you wouldn’t have been able to do this, if you hadn’t had that you need the dark, you need the contrast, you need the experiences that build up. So when you look at it, now, when you’re laying in bed, do you kind of go, yes, I’m a lucky person to find my thing, or do you kind of go, I’m loving this so much. God, I wish I could have done it 10 years ago,
Liz Goodchild [46:40]
I think probably a bit of both I do you know, I do feel really lucky to wake up every day and really enjoy my life. And of course, it doesn’t look like that every single day. You know, sometimes I have to do boring things or stuff I don’t want to do and, you know, it’s not always brimming with positivity, but this a definite deep undercurrent of this awareness that I am living the life that I want to live. And I think like you, you know, I wouldn’t have got to this place without living the life that I you know, that came before me kind of things. So I say I sometimes think God, I couldn’t, but you know, I was coaching someone the other day, and she’s 21. And she knows what she wants. And, you know, when I was 21, I was, you know, dead behind the eyeballs. And I thought, wow, gosh, you know, to be that age, and just be so sure about what you want and you know, have so much energy and motivation. But I have to remind myself that my life was different. And I think that I wouldn’t get have got to where I am now without all that happening. So yeah, I think I think a bit of both, really,
David Ralph [47:51]
I was speaking to a chap Episode 155 called well, and Castle, and he is 15 years old might be 16 now. And he I started his first business at four. And, you know, and I think I just can’t imagine. And I said to him, you know, what would you do differently. Now, he said, when I started my first company, I would have thought bigger, I just tried to create a company that was for my island. But I should have gone global because the customers and it kind of blows my mind. And as you say that 21 year old credit to her, but she really knows what she wants. And when you when you pick up these autobiographies, you find generally, they all know what they want. They know it from a very early stage, but they’re willing to hustle. And they’re really to put it in the effort that there’s a there’s a champion the UK, but the American listeners in the world, probably won’t know. And he’s a radio DJ called Chris Evans. And he’s been around for a long time. And he was really, really good. And Benny had a bit of a breakdown and sort of like disappeared off the radar for a while. But now he’s sort of backup at the top. And when you read his biography, he worked hard, and I think I’ve ever known anyone to do. And if he was a news agent, like he was, he was going to be the best news agent he wanted to be. When he was a mobile DJ, he wanted to be the best one. But he was the classic example of knowing what he wanted to do, and going for it. And even if he wasn’t being paid for it, he was going to gain experience, but he could take to the next level. And yeah, I look at that. And I think that is something that people are missing now. But they kind of almost feel that they should get paid. But by volunteering somewhere, and finding out whether you like it, and whether you love it, that’s a good way of actually starting to find your path, isn’t it? Because you’re taking action, even though it’s not giving you anything back? Other than Is this the right way forward?
Liz Goodchild [49:48]
Yeah, absolutely. And I think you know, there is it, you know, there’s a lot of testing, you know, to see what it is you like, and when I kind of came out of my sleepwalking, you know, funk that I was in, I went to loads of things, I joined like a barbershop singing, like, going
David Ralph [50:08]
to a bit nowadays.
Liz Goodchild [50:11]
I can’t even remember any of the songs and you know, and I was like the youngest one there. And I think the the second youngest one, there was about 70. So you know, definitely wasn’t my age bracket. And, you know, I did loads of courses, and I just went for it with loads of different things. And I didn’t really have any direction. At that point, I just thought you know what I’m gonna, I’m going to start doing things and and now when I look back, and I, you know, connect all those dots. And it all makes sense now, but at the time, it didn’t, I was doing loads of different things. But it all brought me closer to who I am now.
David Ralph [50:49]
But let’s play some words that really talk about joining up the dots. And these are the words of Steve Jobs said back in 2005. And we’ve just alluded to their power just a moment ago. This is Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs [51:00]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future, you have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference. You know,
David Ralph [51:35]
I’ve listened to those words, maybe 300 times 400 times whatever. And every time I listen to him, something jumps out at me and follow your heart was the words were and it was almost like I hadn’t heard those bits before. It’s amazing that that sort of left out to me. What are those words mean to you?
Liz Goodchild [51:54]
Oh, just just so much, you know, I mean, Steve Jobs was just such an incredible guy. And yeah, following your heart. I mean, I think that that’s kind of banded around, isn’t it? You know, follow your heart. And some people are like, what does that actually mean? But I think for me, you know, follow your heart what what Steve Jobs you know, mean, men when he said that was just just, you know, you know, listen, listen closely to that, that voice that we have inside of us, that guides us that we’re just not aware of and, and that intuition, that gut feeling where, you know, in certain situations, we just feel really good about something or someone and, and, and, and that, to follow that rather than listening to that voice that tells us to, you know, to not do things. So I think, you know, for someone like Steve Jobs, you know, follow in his heart was that he had this vision of this company, and this, this technology that wasn’t out there at the time, that he would be the first man to, you know, to, to put that into the world. And again, I’m sure he had all of this resistance around it. And people were telling him, he was crazy. And he didn’t have the money and things like that. But again, it was like it lit him up inside. Like he felt good. When he was doing those things. And, and then, you know, look, you know, look what he did create. I mean, it’s it’s just incredible. It’s incredible. And what a legacy he’s left.
David Ralph [53:31]
Well, just with those words is a legacy, isn’t it? The fact that those words are coming up nearly 10 years old now. And still the amount of people that say to me, oh, I’ve got that on my fridge, or I’ve got that pin to my computer or whatever. But there’s a there’s a hope isn’t there? in those words, there’s a fact that if you get off your backside, and you do stuff, and literally every episode I’ve done, I think actually every episode, people have got off their backside, and I’ve done something and that’s why the leads good channels of the world are rocking, emoting and they’re enjoying themselves because they’ve tried stuff. And yeah, I can’t imagine you doing barbershop singing, I’ll be honest with you. That was a stepping stone, wasn’t it? That was just you once again, doing something out of your comfort until you find something that seems right for you and your talents come together?
Liz Goodchild [54:18]
Yeah, totally. Absolutely. And you know, it’s the same with running. I didn’t know that I liked running. And I would say for the first three or four months of running it very much. But there was something that made me go back and do it, you know, and it’s the same. You know, the same as, you know, just trying new things.
David Ralph [54:42]
Don’t give up on that. I’ll be honest.
Liz Goodchild [54:44]
Yeah, but there’s that resistance. You see the resistance there? Because your brain is like, Oh my god, what are you doing? You know, you’re gonna you know, you’re gonna kill yourself doing this running because it you know, the body feels stressed when when we exercise and that that is your brain just trying to get you back onto the sofa watching TV. So it’s pushing through that resistance.
David Ralph [55:06]
If you go back and listen to Episode 24555 days ago, there’s a gentleman called Coinbase saver, who was a casual runner, and he said, You know, I used to run every now and again, maybe one or two miles, and I decided to do something big. So I thought I’m going to run across America. And 2621 miles he ran. And he said, it wasn’t so much the physical aspect, it was the the mental aspect. And the fact that all that energy can actually make you go a bit loopy. And he said, you know, the desert kind of trouble with getting your legs going trouble with your back, but also your minds and sort of play tricks on you and all that kind of stuff. But he did it in 100 days, every day he did a marathon. At the end of that marathon, he then stood up and did a presentation in front of a group of people. And then the next morning, he did it again. And he said more often than not, he’s but he was closing up. But he he did it. And now he’s in his very small group. Now what he wants to do in 2015, or 16, he wants to do it again, but beat the speed record. And so he wants to run a class in 44 days. Oh, which means he’s got to do 70 miles a day, which is like two marathons. And he’s absolutely convinced he can do it. Now, as he was saying it to me, I said to him quite openly. I think you’re mad. I think you’re totally mad, because it’s not my thing. I look at it and think why would anybody want to do that? He came back to me and he said, You’ve done 250 shows back to back Vax mad, I just couldn’t do that. And that’s that’s the brilliant thing about life, isn’t it, we can all find out mad things that bring us alive. And they don’t have to sort of be packed on anyone else at all. But somebody is going to be inspired by it. And one person might listen to one of my shows, and it will change their life. One person might listen to him one thing, I’m going to do the same. One person might listen to the live good show. And that’s what we’re here for, isn’t it? We’re here just to show people that there is a way to live their life. And it may not be your way, my way or whoever’s ways. But there’s a way there’s a way Yeah, when you find that way. It’s your way.
Liz Goodchild [57:19]
Absolutely. I couldn’t agree more. Absolutely.
David Ralph [57:22]
Yeah. I’m getting good at this list, you know that
Liz Goodchild [57:24]
you are you are listen to you all day, I just get a cup of coffee and listen to you talk
David Ralph [57:30]
about all inspired by I’m gonna have a bit music. That’s why I fell, I feel I feel like rocky in the middle there. So what I’m going to do now I’m going to send you back in time, I don’t want this show to finish. Actually, Bella, I’m going to send you back in time, because this is the part that we call the Sermon on the mic. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Liz, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give what we’re going to find out now because I’m going to play the theme tune and when it fades you up, this is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [58:06]
We go with the best bit of the show.
Liz Goodchild [58:23]
I think the age that I would like to go back to is probably around the age of 21. But also the person that I am now I think that it’s you know, always good to remind myself daily and to just be more me and and you know talking to that 21 year old and I would say just be more you if you don’t know who you are, then start asking yourself questions. take yourself out for a meal or to the cinema or to a barbershop quartet group. Get to know who you are like who you really are. And the closer you get to you, the more you can connect with yourself. And the more you connect with those around you and the better your life will be. And you know, I really believe in that. And that’s something that I daily remind myself just to be more me. That would be my advice.
David Ralph [59:25]
I like that that’s going to be the title of the show. Who wants to be more me? Yeah, that’s right, isn’t it? That’s the kind of thing that we should be that that being you being me is easy, because we were born to be me. And so many people trying to be other people. And that’s when the energy goes out of here because it’s not your thing. Yeah,
Liz Goodchild [59:47]
yeah, keep your eyes on your own paper. That’s what I always say to my clients when they’re comparing themselves to others. Keep your eye on your own paper. And because yeah, we do look around and compare us to everybody else and make become very quickly disenchanted with you know what we’re doing and just because, you know, somebody is running across America, or somebody I don’t know, is is is is on stage Singing Singing songs doesn’t mean that you know that’s necessarily for us and to find your thing that you’re inspired by. Absolutely So
David Ralph [1:00:21]
did you think that everyone out there all the people in their cubicles people on buses listening to this? Do you think that they can have a kick ass life?
Liz Goodchild [1:00:30]
Oh my god, absolutely. 100% and you can you know, absolutely it’s it is out there is not even out there is in you already. It’s already there. You just got to know I’ve said it about a billion times it feels like in this interview, but it’s pushing through that resistance, you’re not going to get what you want right now. And you have to work at things it always imagine it’s like, you know, warning, that six pack you know, if you physically want to have a washboard abs stomach, you’re gonna have to do sit ups and watch your diet and it’s the same with you know, with things that are going on in your head that you have to work at it. It’s not gonna happen overnight. Nobody wakes up, you know, with this amazing life is tiny, tiny, tiny little steps towards towards that bigger vision. that bigger picture
David Ralph [1:01:24]
means how can our audience connect with you?
Liz Goodchild [1:01:27]
I am, I have a website, which is Liz good child co.uk. And I write weekly on on my blog there. I also have a Facebook page, which I think is Yeah, if you type in this good child, it will come up my coaching page. And I’m also on Twitter, which is Liz underscore good child,
David Ralph [1:01:50]
we will have all the links on the show notes. Liz, thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining those dots. And please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. lyst good child. Thank you so much.
Liz Goodchild [1:02:06]
Thank you, David.
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