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Introducing Michael Guberti
Michael Guberti is today’s guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots business podcast.
He is one of those guests that I love having on the show, because they put so many of us old guys to shame.
He is the founder of “Teenager Entrepreneur”, an educational and empowerment online membership site that guides teenagers to discover their passions, and profit from them.
Even though still a young man himself he realised early that self confidence was the key to teenagers finding their passions, and then believing totally that they can turn those passions into money making enterprises.
By cultivating a profitable income, and focusing in on their futures, aspiring teenagers will foster self-confidence which then leads them to tackle bigger and bolder visions.
Having networked with and learned cutting edge business strategies from New York City’s most influential, ranging from Mike Michalowicz to Patty Lennon and Ramon Ray, he offers years of business insight.
How The Dots Joined Up For Michael
Bu if you think that this is a guy who is sitting in his bedroom creating online capital and courses, then think again, as he is also the driving force behind the weeklong summercamps, whereby in person he will cover each segment of the online membership site and really help his students to success.
Teenager Entrepreneur is built on the principle of helping teenagers to transcend their current state and become extraordinary.
Wow I love this, talk about hustle.
So where did he get his vision for the Teenage Entrepreneur?
And why has he managed to do something so successfully, that so many people struggle with until much later, or sometimes not at all….find their thing in life.
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only, Mr Michael Guberti.
During the episode we discussed such weighty topics such with Michael Guberti as:
How he was so lucky to join forces with his younger brother, and the talents and strengths they bring to the party.
How he believes that we can all find our passions in life by simply asking ourselves two questions.
Why he made sure that he built mental triggers into himself, to help him overcome the fears that stop us all in our tracks.
Why he wakes every morning grateful for his day, and why he believes it is so important to start his life this way.
How To Connect With Michael Guberti
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Full Transcription Of Michael Guberti Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello, bear world. Welcome to Join Up Dots Episode 268. And we are in 132 countries worldwide. Yeah, I had a little look at our stats just before we recorded and we’ve now got some listeners in China. Hello, China wish I knew how to say hello over there. But I’m glad you’re listening. So welcome aboard. Let’s introduce you to today’s guest. He is one of those guests that I just love having on the show because I put so many of us old guys to shame he is the founder of teenage entrepreneur and actually occasional and empowerment online membership site that guides teenagers to discover their passions and profit from them. Even though still young man himself he realised early that self competence was the key to teenagers finding their passions, and then believing totally that they can turn those passions into money making enterprises. by cultivating a profitable income and focusing in on their futures. aspiring teenagers will foster self competence, which then leads them to tackle bigger and bolder visions. Now having networked and learn cutting edge businesses strategies from new york city’s most influential, ranging from Mike mccalla wits to Patty Lennon and Raymond Ray, he actually offers years of a business insight and easy on body but if you think that this is a guy who is sitting in his bedroom, creating online capital courses, then think again as he’s also the driving force behind a week long summer camps, whereby in person he will cover each segment of the online membership site and really help his students to success. Teenage entrepreneur is built on the principle of helping teens ages to transcend becoming state and become extraordinary. Wow, I love this talk about hustle. So where did he get his vision for the teenage entrepreneur? And why is he managed to do something so successfully? But so many people struggle with until much later or sometimes not at all. find their thing in life. Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up with the one and only Mr. Michael Guberti. How are you Michael?
Michael Guberti [2:25]
I am fantastic. David, how are you?
David Ralph [2:27]
I’m always good. Michael. I am the host of Join Up Dots. How could you be any better? Unless you’re the co founder of teenage entrepreneur I suppose.
Michael Guberti [2:38]
Well, thank you. That’s very kind of you. But I’m sure it’s just as exciting over there.
David Ralph [2:43]
Always doubly exciting. It really is. But But you are in the probably one of the most exciting cities in the world. You are a New Yorker. Are you born and bred New York?
Michael Guberti [2:54]
Absolutely. hometown, New York’s New York.
David Ralph [2:57]
So are you in the in the hub or are you in the Sort of outer regions of New York,
Michael Guberti [3:03]
I’d say, away from the city but close enough to it where I can still be called called the conventional New Yorker.
David Ralph [3:11]
And what is a conventional New Yorker then
Michael Guberti [3:15]
a very fast, fast talking immediate response person.
David Ralph [3:20]
And is it because I’ve spent quite a bit of time in New York and I find, I find it is a very fast paced city. But there’s also a lot of people sitting doing nothing. If you go sort of to London, for example, I’ve never seen as many people just sitting around in parks and stuff I did in New York, but it seems to be lots of people just kind of, I don’t know, taking a load off, as we say over here. And just sort of resting is that because of the fast pace you have to do that is to survive?
Michael Guberti [3:49]
Well, I don’t know how long you can go with just burning the candle at both ends. So perhaps idling does become a common theme because of its restorative properties.
David Ralph [3:58]
So what do you do? To restore yourself because obviously we’re going to touch on what you do on a daily basis. But while we’re on the subject, what, when you’re not being the teenage entrepreneur? What do you do to sort of rest and recover?
Michael Guberti [4:12]
Well, I would say I always like to ground my recovery activities still in self improvement. So for example, I will have run a business meeting or contacted my associates during the day, and to rest quote, unquote, rest, I’ll exercise to further enhance my body in addition to my intellect.
David Ralph [4:35]
So because you are so passionate about it, are we already touching on the work is play plays work? You found your thing in life, so even when you’re not doing it, you’re kind of thinking about it. So you think well, I might as well be doing it anyway.
Michael Guberti [4:50]
I would say because of the joy I have and elevating others, which is a key fixture in the teenager entrepreneur philosophy. Yes, that can be said
David Ralph [5:00]
So let’s go back in time then. So you’re 18 years old, you’re in New York. When was Michael not who he is now, when were you quote unquote, and I’m using those little finger things as a normal kid that was just floating around lying on the sofa watching Telly and killing time, much to the sort of a chagrin to their parents. Were you ever that kind of kid or was you always a go giver?
Michael Guberti [5:27]
I have to tell you, David, in the every single summer when I got off from school, my mom and my dad had me practising multiplication tables, doing reading comprehension and deriving lessons from short stories. So basically since inception, it has been all in learn now and better yourself.
David Ralph [5:49]
Well, why did they do that then obviously, is working wonders for you, but so many kids don’t have that. So what are your teachers or your parents, teachers are leaving We sort of into the self development themselves. Why did they focus in on this online?
Michael Guberti [6:05]
Well, I have to tell you, my mom is so into personal development. And also she’s a nutritionist, so she helps others better their nutritional lives. But she has so much passion for us, which I’m truly blessed with, because I have good parents. And that is real strong statement. I had a mother who taught me to direct and this is no exaggeration, the course of my destiny, and a father who was smart enough to say, Listen to your mother, so it was perfect.
David Ralph [6:37]
And so when did you find your destiny then this this is a because you have you know, in any introduction, we were saying, You found it early to find something that you love doing and it’s something that you can work towards your future. So early is a gift because I was I was in my 40s before something come along that I thought this is for me. So when Did he direct you towards your destiny? And were you aware of it as opposed?
Michael Guberti [7:06]
Well, we always had an emphasis on serving other people on elevating so take someone where they are to where they want to be because of the sake of a person you want to help them which is another core paradigm around what we do but I would say this helping emphasis always translated into every part of my life. I mean, I volunteered for non for profits, I altar serve still to this day at my church. So everything I do, which was influenced by my parents teaching I’m very thankful for that is aimed at helping other people which has been really part of my life story.
David Ralph [7:44]
But But when did you get the the destiny but the drive was Was it your mom? Sort of pointing you in the direction or was it something where you found yourself?
Michael Guberti [7:54]
Oh, I’m sorry. To be more specific. I would say I for time I really liked baseball. And I focused on that. In fact, I wrote a blog about it. I kept that up. But then I suppose it wasn’t my mom, she equipped us with the right tools, but to say go into this immediately, she let us choose. And then I chose eventually I said, am I going to spend my life covering other people? You know, the transaction is a baseball team specifically, or am I going to spend it impacting others in a positive way and I chose that and she was very kind in that she let me choose, which is not often a parental characteristic shared around the world.
David Ralph [8:38]
MTG get back all the people out there sitting in cubicles, or the people on the train on the buses. They’re listening here and they’re thinking, This is what I want. I want to find something that I’m passionate about. I want to find something that I can work towards, but I haven’t got a clue how to do it. How did you get that idea? How did you at such an early age Being right, this is something for me, this is something that I’m going to work towards. Was it something that somebody shared with you? And you thought, yes, that sounds good, or was it an epiphany you had? How did you get it?
Michael Guberti [9:12]
I would say if you want to find your passions, do two things, figure out right now, as you’re listening what you like, and that’s really easy to do. We all have things that we like. So just envision them for a moment. And then ask yourself, why do I like this? So for example, I like my mom, and central figures of belief systems, otherwise known as religions. Why do I like them? Because they always acted in service of other people. I don’t have a religion. You know, I’m not suggesting one way religiously or the other. But most religious figures do emphasise helping other people and that’s what I ended up liking. So if you know the reason In behind what you like not just what but why you can find your passions.
Unknown Speaker [10:06]
Michael Guberti [10:08]
I think so it’s worked to this point.
David Ralph [10:11]
So so once you think so many people do struggle with finding their passion. And if it is as simple as that, then we shouldn’t be doing it, should we?
Michael Guberti [10:21]
Well, for two reasons, one, I think, is the lack of intelligent education on the subject. And I’m not talking conventional, I’m just saying, thoughtful. It’s like, don’t make it overly difficult. Just say, What do you like, know the operating system behind that or your justification? And your justification will end up justifying whatever it is you do. And that’s how you choose your passions.
David Ralph [10:48]
So you sat down and you came up with this list, or did was it just something that occurred to you did you actually go through the exercise of asking those questions to yourself?
Michael Guberti [10:59]
Yes, I figured out what I liked and then why and for certain reasons, I could see how that translated in to other parts of my life. And I was like, why am I liking these things? Oh, because they all have this one reason.
David Ralph [11:16]
What happened? I suppose the million dollar question Ben is you find your passion, which people do but then translating it into an income producing passion. That’s the hard thing, isn’t it? Many people can go Yes, I love doing this. And I know the reasons why I love doing it but actually being able to earn from it is a different ball game is it?
Michael Guberti [11:40]
Well, it is much different because then you have to make sure your what you believe isn’t in conflict with what you have to do to make money. So some people, they won’t want to market themselves because they don’t want to boast but if you don’t market yourself, how are you going to help other people which is your goal, but yet you don’t want to both so it’s Catch 22 that you have to end up reversing you have to change one of those two beliefs that you have.
David Ralph [12:07]
And do you find that a common trait with the entrepreneurs but you, you coach and you mentor? Is there that that self limiting belief right at the very beginning that they can do that? Once you break them down of a away on a company market power?
Michael Guberti [12:25]
Yes. Well, I would say for just taking that first step in the students that I’ve worked with, and not only teenagers, but adults, ironically, once you tell them, tell them, you’re not telling them anything, once you instruct them how to find their passions, and they do it. I mean, they’ve just walked into a whole new world and from there, they’re so open to what they just learned. They will listen and try to implement the marketing and the packaging into products methods that we teach.
David Ralph [12:54]
So it’s you and your partner. I understand your your business partner who created Today was it. Tell us about him. How did you find him and how do you work together?
Michael Guberti [13:06]
Well, I didn’t have to go too far to find my business partner as he is my 16 year old brother. And he is incredibly focused, research oriented, driven beyond belief. I hold him as an example of productivity in my life because he has that phenomenal. He has over 160,000 Twitter followers, so he’s mastered that, absolutely. And he helps me because our dynamic is exceptionally strong. I am the more motivational relationship based uptempo individual and he is also motivational, which is good because we have two motivational figures and he is nuts and bolts, black and white. Let’s get down to business which gels quite well.
David Ralph [14:00]
But it’s unusual, isn’t it for brothers to find West ramps together? older brothers, I’ve got a brother and we used to fight like cats and dog when we were growing up. And now we’re sort of middle aged men, where we were much better, but I couldn’t imagine going into business with him. Is there sibling rivalry with the two of you? Or do you really complement each other?
Michael Guberti [14:23]
I gotta tell you, if there was sibling rivalry, this business would not exist. So we do complement each other? Well, because we have the same goal in mind, which is just to elevate other people.
David Ralph [14:35]
So who had the first goal then was it was it you or was it him? Did you go to him or did he come to you?
Michael Guberti [14:43]
Well, I tell you the truth. We were both writing baseball blogs at the time, as I mentioned this earlier, I wrote one about the New York Mets and he wrote wondering about the Boston Red Sox. And then I would say, after a couple of months, and we learned you know, we learned how to promote it because we figured, hey, if we’re going to write really detailed information, why don’t we send it out to the world and have it read? But at some point, I would say collectively, we and we worked in the same area. So it happened corporally in the same realm as well, we asked, Is there more meaning to be found here? Which we determined there is and we shifted into elevating others entrepreneurially.
David Ralph [15:26]
So how did you start that spin? Now? Now you’ve got the idea. And you’ve got your business partner. How do you what was the first step? Was it to go online or offline? How did you do it?
Michael Guberti [15:38]
first step was online, we, first of all, we put up our websites we design them also got to build an incredibly large and I say this humbly, social media gathering because of my brother’s efforts as well as me, learning from and adapting to what his strategies were. And when you say
David Ralph [15:57]
large, what kind of figures are we talking About in Facebook and Twitter land what we talking about,
Michael Guberti [16:03]
between my brother and I and our three arms, individual and company accounts. We’ve amassed over 190,000 Twitter followers.
David Ralph [16:20]
And it’s not just a simple case of you’re following 190 so they follow 190.
Michael Guberti [16:27]
Now, these are real fans who really want to know what our content is, and learn from it.
David Ralph [16:34]
Bring it in. Okay, so so you’ve got loads of Twitter followers, what about Facebook? What’s the sort of size of a or did was it more Twitter you focused on? I would
Michael Guberti [16:42]
say Twitter was our predominant social media. We are working on Facebook though because we do not want to pigeonhole ourselves into just one.
David Ralph [16:52]
Yeah, absolutely. And, of the to, for the people out there listening who are thinking about starting a business. We Would you say has got the most power for a newbie starting on the road to entrepreneurship?
Michael Guberti [17:07]
fascinating question, my brother would probably be able to give you a stronger answer. But based on our success alone, I would say that Twitter is a strong way to go, but I’m not indicting Facebook. In fact, I think, you know, they’re practically the same. We just happened to do well on Twitter, which is why I’m recommending them.
David Ralph [17:28]
Okay, so Twitter is the way to go. This is this is what we’re we’re creating a blueprint here. So you sit there and you ask your questions, and you find your passion. And you work out why. And then you move forward. And when you start building a social media presence, after you create your online platform, and then what do you do so
Michael Guberti [17:51]
then you decide in the many facets available, how to package your passion into a profit, but to do that, you I have something cell, which is actually the focus of our second day at the boot camp we hold every summer, which is to take your passion and put it into either a blog, a book, a membership site, a training course, and all the services that we actually exemplify on our website. So we’re not just saying you had to do these things, we’re actually doing them with you.
David Ralph [18:24]
And you were saying that you actually coach and mentor adults as well?
Michael Guberti [18:29]
Yes, I say that almost ironically. But I’m happy to help anyone who’s serious about learning how to package their passions into profits,
David Ralph [18:38]
and do you have a lot of, once again, quotation marks adults come to you in because with the branding of teenage entrepreneur, I would have thought that would limit that.
Michael Guberti [18:50]
I have to tell you, there were adults who want to sign up for the boot camp last year, coming to us almost at a faster not Almost at a fairly congruent rate as the kids, which was very inspiring to me, because it shows that the message is large and strong enough to reach all people.
David Ralph [19:10]
So you don’t want to do a spin off middle aged entrepreneurs.
Michael Guberti [19:15]
Well, as a future business topic or venture, yeah,
David Ralph [19:20]
yeah, well, I know.
Michael Guberti [19:22]
Well, I would say that one of our tag lines is age is no limit to success. Obviously, that applies in the teenage world, but it also applies to the retirees which have come to us in droves in recent months.
David Ralph [19:35]
I find that fascinating that they are coming to you not not in any sort of detriment to yourself, but the fact that it is teenager entrepreneur, you would have thought a lot of people would have said that’s not for me, because it’s for teenagers. What what’s what’s making them see through that and past but to actually try to get involved.
Michael Guberti [19:57]
I can only hope that it’s the message Wanting to elevate others around them through what they love, and perhaps to find what they love first and then move forward in that direction,
David Ralph [20:10]
which is the key thing, isn’t it? So but they’re looking the answers, and they can see you, you’re doing very, very well. And they can see the people that have been through your course doing very, very well. And I think that’s what I need. There’s answers where I want part of it.
Michael Guberti [20:25]
Exactly. I believe that’s the mentality. And I hope it only plays to the role model figure I am trying to live into.
David Ralph [20:31]
Well, let’s play some words. But we like to play on the show. And these are very motivational and they really speak to what we’re talking about here about finding your passion and really going for it. This is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [20:42]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many Many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [21:10]
Now, you’re still a young man. So you are closer to your peer group of students and, and kids at college and at school and stuff. Do you see that there is a movement towards those words, but people nowadays at your age are more likely to take a chance and doing what they love, always still that path for generations have gone through that you got to get a job, you got to get a job and that’s the new route. How do you see it from your point of view?
Michael Guberti [21:39]
I would say that there is still job emphasis based on societal precedent. But there is a stronger wave and move towards figuring out what you desire and want of life and then packaging your activities around that thought I would say that’s how it’s we’re still feeling remnants of the job orientation but we’re moving towards a much more free flowing and fulfilling way of life.
David Ralph [22:07]
And you obviously find that for inspiring because you’re involved in it. Do you find it? For the people that are coming to you? Do you find it? There’s a fear from that fault, always liberation that’s forcing them to do that.
Michael Guberti [22:23]
I would say there’s a desire to be free to change to achieve that liberation, that sparks then meeting me in most cases, it’s not out of fear. If anything is involving fear, it’s probably that they don’t want to miss out on something they feel could further their lives, which I commend them for because some people will just let the fear eat them away and the angels of inaction.
David Ralph [22:51]
Well, they do so many people do and that’s the key reason that I created the show to indicate on a daily basis, but a Everyone is frightened when you go into something you don’t want to fail, but the people that achieve other people actually do it and they go ahead with it. What you actually frightened when you started this because you seem a very competent young man, I almost would be surprised if you said yes. But when you decided to go in to the entrepreneur route, were you scared of failing?
Michael Guberti [23:25]
Yes, fear is common to all humans. And it’s just as common to me I was afraid at the beginning, but then I learned, if I’m going to go through it with this, I’m going to have to master me. And to do that I have to learn how to beat fear. And I ended up setting up a few mental triggers, that when I got into a state of anxiety, or regret, I could immediately shift out into an empowering positive one to counteract the negative effects of any mentality that would try to bring me down
David Ralph [23:59]
and how do you do And how did you give us an example of one of the mental triggers? Because fear is the the all conquering? I don’t even know what it is, is an emotion, I suppose. But that’s the thing that stops people in their tracks. So if you could give us some tips of actually how to overcome that when it comes to watch you, how would you do it?
Michael Guberti [24:21]
I would say this, know what influences you first of all, because if you like a certain person, or you hear a word, and it sparks immediate action, and you are you’re focused at that moment, then that’s power, in my opinion. And I’m not saying that, for significance, I’m saying you can use that in some way. So if something influences you, I don’t know what it is because it’s different for everyone. But find something that influences you, and then devise how you can build a mindset using that which holds power over you to push in an opposite direction. No fear. So if you get fearful, and you can feel it coming upon you think of someone or something that you respect enough to be able to say, I’m going to act like them here, regardless of this fear.
David Ralph [25:18]
But how do you do that bow? As you know, especially as an 18 year old, that’s kind of not. That’s not normal behaviour, is it to be aware, but you can actually set up mental triggers Does, does that take you back to what your mom was teaching you? Where did you actually sort of get that, that knowledge, supposed to be able to do that? Because I couldn’t have done that when I was 18. I would have just dealt with the fear or suffered the fear.
Michael Guberti [25:46]
Well, that’s part of what we teach and why we’re trying to spread it but I would say my mom always taught me to believe in myself no matter what situation I found myself in and that coupled with the lessons I learned through various immersive learning activities to figure out how to further my personal development, all supported by her and my parents, obviously, which helped drive the action. It wasn’t just intention, it was initiative. And that’s what really caused the change in me.
David Ralph [26:19]
And is one of the key things that you teach. I know you said you help them overcome that. But do you actually have modules? Do you have sessions? helping them with the mental triggers that when fear comes towards them, they can actually push past it?
Michael Guberti [26:35]
I yes, we have detailed modules that go so much in depth as to what we’re talking about. But I would really say that there are a multitude of strategies, one of which is to set up mental triggers. And if you get really good at it, you can go on a more advanced level where it’s like, I don’t even if you think of something that annoys you right now, think of something where You can get to that point and if someone reminds you of that person, you won’t even get angry anymore. You just it’ll be an automatic redirect like on a computer. So you get to one screen that spam and it brings you back to wherever you were so you it’s like you weren’t even there you don’t get angry.
David Ralph [27:18]
So when you reach down to I’m looking at the list on the introduction because Mike mccalla Wits was actually the first guests that I ever interviewed on this show. He actually went out to show number two but he was the first interview I ever did. How did you actually reach out to Mike because I know he’s an extremely busy guy and and what support and encouragement did he give you?
Michael Guberti [27:40]
Well, I met Mr. Macau. It’s at a rule breakers event in New York City because I had recently one along with my brother the tandem that we are the People’s Choice Rule Breakers award for entrepreneurship in 2014. So that’s where I met him. And he introduced me onto the stage. I thanked him for his time. And that’s where we received the voters based award in New York City.
David Ralph [28:05]
And how did you win that rule breakers award? What was the voting system?
Michael Guberti [28:10]
That was just we entered our information on to an online platform, the rule breakers award, and then it was up to public voting to decide who would be the People’s Choice Victor.
David Ralph [28:23]
So you so you’re standing up there with Mike and all Mr. mccalla wits. So as you said, and did you say we want your help? Or did he offer the help? or How did that come about?
Michael Guberti [28:33]
I would say we just met as an introduction there and learned from not only him but other business leaders in the field and synthesise their lessons which are very strong and effective into modules and other lessons that we continue to build on.
David Ralph [28:54]
And how, how did you synthesise those How did you translate what’s working for them into What works for you?
Michael Guberti [29:02]
Part of it is trial and error, seeing what works, determining whether or not a certain strategy is worth your time because there are long term and short term strategies do you have the resource of time to try these extremely long term solutions, we determined whether we could or we couldn’t with certain ones. And then the ones that worked, we continuously checked, like tested. So it was very, almost scientific way we took about this. If something worked, we kept on doing it to validate its effectiveness. And then we continue to teach that to other people.
David Ralph [29:40]
Which seems the perfect way of doing it. trial and error, trial and error. If you get enough errors out of the way you’re going to get success on it.
Michael Guberti [29:47]
Yes, or find a strategy that is independent of the one that was failing and then continually use that.
David Ralph [29:55]
And once you get once you get that, that germ of an idea What’s working? Is it simply a case of doing that bigger and bigger and bigger? Or do you have to work with that to make it what you need personally, because most ideas can be had by many people, but generally only one person really takes it forward and makes the success of it. And it’s not until they do it. But others come behind with similar ideas at work along the same themes. So do you take that and just go bigger, bigger, bigger, because you know it’s working? Or do you just keep on tweaking it, tweaking it, tweaking it until it becomes your thing?
Michael Guberti [30:34]
Well, I would say that to your first premise that not a lot of people take up an idea until someone proves that it can be done is because they are held backs by some emotional limit that we name as fear. But since we’ve already discussed that, I would say when someone proves that something can be done, they are the Pioneer that then set the path for others to follow. Others have certainty now because of this person, that it can be done, which is why they try to go along a similar path.
David Ralph [31:10]
Which is how records are broken up. Now once one person does it the next that mental belief kicks in and other people think I can do it, which is how the four minute mile was done first blow cracked it and then suddenly everyone was doing it.
Michael Guberti [31:24]
Yes, that’s awesome. If you break if one person breaks through the dam, suddenly the masses know how to
David Ralph [31:31]
what what’s been your biggest success away from personally with the people that you’re tutoring? Has anyone gone on to do amazing stuff? Well, I assume many of them have gone on to do amazing stuff. But But what are the sort of real stars out there that have come via a teenager entrepreneur?
Michael Guberti [31:48]
I would say that just the mental freedom that they’ve been instilled with through our teaching in the first day of our bootcamp inspires me to no end because I And the student transformations that display this sentiment are posted on our website and a tab for it. But I it’s just a freedom and an awareness that we previously discussed, to be able to choose happiness, to choose sadness, to choose success to choose not succeeding, that they never even realise they had that option, and to make a real decision on what they want to do for the rest of their lives. And you see these kids and their minds open up, whereas before when they came in, they didn’t quite know what to expect. they’d heard good things. But when they finally implement those mental strategies, they open up like a flower blossoming it’s a beautiful sight, which continues to inspire me to this day.
David Ralph [32:52]
And which businesses have been most successful that you’ve seen come through this path.
Michael Guberti [32:58]
I would say he comes has been quite strong, as well as promotional marketing, packaging into dip and so many various products have been spurred from the teaching. That is just an a holistic success, I would say in all the facets mental, physical, online, digital. Those have been real prosperous areas, and I’m very thankful for that.
David Ralph [33:29]
You find the astonishing No, being devil’s advocate here, this is a question that’s purely for the listener. But you find the amazing back one day with you and your brother can make such a difference to these people’s lives if they’ve got it in them haven’t made that got it in them already. And just one day can open it up.
Michael Guberti [33:51]
I marvel at the change that goes on in these teenagers because yes, we do all have these faculties We’re all by default human, our neurology is the same, but who uses it? Who utilises the gifts that they’ve been given. You have all that you need to succeed. Now it’s a matter of you using it, which is a real huge step towards the prosperity you desire.
David Ralph [34:22]
Why wouldn’t your platform be better suited, and I know it’s very successful, but what you’re doing is astonishing. And credit to you and your brother, you’re doing amazing stuff and just talking to you, I can see why you’re so successful. But it seems to me that the wider sense of what you need to do is get into the schools and inspire these kids before they come out of the education system. As we touched on earlier, there still is that path of get a job, get a job, get a job, and the fact that you are showing them away and within a couple of days, they’re opening up like flowers. There’s a lots of flowers. We’re missing out on only.
Michael Guberti [35:02]
Yes, which is why we’re trying to expand our message as well as our impact to further elevate the lives of the other people that may not have heard about us, but now we can further reach because of our efforts to just expand our horizons.
David Ralph [35:19]
And how you doing that, Michael, how are you spreading your message even wider?
Michael Guberti [35:25]
Well, we have a grassroots approach. We always go to schools especially in my home, my home state New York and we try to demo the programme introduce it to other counsellors and students, especially who when they hear this are generally extremely energised. And in fact, our efforts on the subject one us the best small business marketing campaign of the Year award because of this, in the moment, right there on the ground approach We have
David Ralph [36:03]
and but but how do you get to ground roots on such a wide scale?
Michael Guberti [36:08]
Well, we have other students who want to spread a similar message and are inspired by what we’re doing. tell their friends, much word of mouth marketing, okay?
David Ralph [36:22]
as well. So you have champions across America, who are picking you up and saying this is the way to go. Have you heard about these guys? They’ve done great things for me. Take a look.
Michael Guberti [36:35]
Yes, which I would say is a common strength of all businesses who can have word of mouth marketing, you want to reach as many people as possible in as many forms as possible. And this is just one form
David Ralph [36:47]
and co mingling with other people on similar messages and passions. Have you thought of doing that with people who already integrated into the School and the education system working with them to spread your message deeper deeper into the the years who got three or four years to come out of school?
Michael Guberti [37:10]
Yes, we always try to
expand the orientation of our teaching, because if we can reach more people that will fulfil our purpose of elevating them. And I would say yes, we are getting much more involved in as many schools as we possibly can, in a reasonable amount of time. Yes.
David Ralph [37:31]
We should be vision on this way. Where do you hope to take it if I said to you, in 20 years, Michael, when you’re 14 years old, what would you hope to have achieved with this?
Michael Guberti [37:45]
I would say teenager entrepreneur, is and by that time, 20 years from now is educating not only educating but empowering so inform but inspire teenagers and adults alike. Around the world, to give them the tools to take what they like that intangible thought in their mind and manifest it in the real world while making an income that supports them all around the world.
David Ralph [38:14]
And that’s that’s doable, but you totally in your heart of hearts, do you think that is what is going to be achieved?
Michael Guberti [38:23]
Yes, I absolutely believe it’s feasible. If it’s not, if I didn’t believe I could do it, the likelihood that I would try is very small.
David Ralph [38:32]
I actually believe that everything you put your mind to is achievable. I think you’ve got such belief in yourself and your brother, that I think you can open doors even when there aren’t doors to be opened.
Michael Guberti [38:45]
Well, thank you. That’s very kind of you. I always try to carry that sentiment into the strategy that I then use to make those doors as in that case that you actually can’t find one you have to make one.
David Ralph [38:57]
So is there an equal hustling you then all Although you’re very intelligent, you’re focused, are you somebody that flexes your hustle muscle on a daily basis and gets out there?
Michael Guberti [39:10]
I would say that comes with the territory of owning any business that you have to have extreme diligence both in your mind and in the physical world to spread your message and help hopefully elevate others in some capacity or form. And then, because of your success, it fuels future action because of the fulfilment, you’ve seen that you’ve instilled in other people.
David Ralph [39:36]
But But how do you hustle? On a daily basis? You get up in the morning, and we’re saying that you’ve taken Saturday and Sunday off? I’m sure you haven’t. But Monday hits. So you get up in the morning. What’s a normal day for yourself?
Michael Guberti [39:52]
normal day, my goodness, I first of all, when I get up, I ground myself in the sentiment of gratitude. First of all, I get my mind, right because when you wake up your body is trying to load everything your eye hand coordination is not as strong as it would be mid day. So just my morning routine, I wake up, I ground myself in gratitude. I’m saying thank you, just whoever bestowed the eyes I have right now, to look four feet in front of me, the hands I have that have effective nerve cells that I can feel everything around me, the feet, the orientation, and then I awaken that orientation by doing very simple activities, which also plays to the hygiene of my life, which is I make my bed, I brush my teeth and those two activities awake you up because then your eye hand has to be in perfect sync. And I just stay in that sentiment while corporately or physically waking myself up, probably ending in a shower, too. spark full alertness and me and then I’m prepared and amped up just to begin my day that’s my morning.
David Ralph [41:07]
And what is your day even did you get on the phones? Do you pound the keyboards? Do you send 100 emails out you drive on teenage entrepreneur? Obviously you’ve got the the week camp. But there’s 51 weeks leading up to that how do you sort of develop your
Michael Guberti [41:26]
your drive to local places where you can tell other individuals about your message you type emails to potential podcasts or blogs that would be interested in you, you. So yes, you type the keyboard, you drive all over, you continually work on self improvement, even when you’re taking a respite from your normal activities. As I mentioned working out, you make you mentally check yourself a few times during the day to make sure you’re still on track. You’re doing what you have to do. You fulfil other needed responsibilities that have a deadline in them for a independent organisation such as school. Like I’ll do my homework, I’ll send out emails, I’ll respond to please, I’ll reply to people. I’ll write a offer on my website. I’ll add a new service. I’ll work with a client. I’ll work out I’ll go out and drive to bring flyers somewhere. I’ll come back I’ll eat dinner. Continue emailing people search something of interest, respond to other emails, make a new document, write a different PDF. And then by that time, it’s time to go to bed.
David Ralph [42:39]
Did you ever have days when you saw get out with audience views as in well do you get to lunchtime and you think I’m gonna watch Netflix for three hours? Do you ever have those kind of days or are you on the go all the time.
Michael Guberti [42:52]
I have to tell you other than fat, very rare occurrences which only last for about 60 minutes, I have banned Netflix, I have banned TV. Anything that would take me away from spreading the message of elevation to the world I no longer engage in.
David Ralph [43:13]
So So how do you have fun man? How do you just sort of just enjoy yourself? I don’t know you other than speaking here, but I can’t imagine you go out getting drunk and stuff like sort of lots of teenagers. Maybe you do. Do you do go out and knock a few beers back?
Michael Guberti [43:31]
I’ve never drunk in a beer in my life. It doesn’t
David Ralph [43:34]
surprise me. It really doesn’t when you say that. So how do you go out and sort of really let your hair down enjoy yourself?
Michael Guberti [43:43]
Hmm. Well, I would say for real restorative and relaxation activities. I still bundle physical exercise underneath that category because it allows my mind Take a brief breath and my body to tune its up self up further which I really take pride in. I know pride is dangerous. But I do enjoy tuning up this vessel I’ve been loaned so I can further act in a swift physical way when I need to. And also just to maintain good hygiene and health My mom is a nutritionist so there’s been a household focus on that since the beginning.
David Ralph [44:30]
Do you struggle with having fun Michael, you You sound like somebody who almost has to decide on what fun to have. Do you ever have spontaneous fun just because it happens?
Michael Guberti [44:42]
Yes, like if I get I do have a spontaneous fun if a few of my friends are available to just talk and hang out if someone’s coming over the house on a special visit. I’ll go out in the front yard and I’ll play wiffle ball with them and be a great enjoyable experience. Because it’s also very, that’s also a focus game, you have to learn the strategy of it and be diligent in your efforts, which I enjoy. And you sit in the backyard, eating organic hamburgers drinking pure water talking about how everyone’s day is going, I do have spontaneity in my enjoyment.
David Ralph [45:20]
Well, what about you? What about your brother? Does he ever sort of go mad? Or is he as focused as you are?
Michael Guberti [45:26]
He’s more focused than me. He’s the model I look up to.
David Ralph [45:31]
I find that astonishing because I’m I mean, all by your focus, I really am because I just know what I was like when I’m 18. And I know what all my kids have been like. And I think the majority of 18 year olds are out there in their cars, having parties, drinking too much and all that kind of stuff. And that’s never been on your radar at all.
Michael Guberti [45:52]
has not even been presented as an option. I’ve heard of it, because of the involvement I have with my peer group. But I’ve never engaged in it or thought to
David Ralph [46:03]
Well, good on you, sir. Good on you, you don’t need too much funding your life when you’ve got a teenage entrepreneur mission to spread. So what what’s gonna what’s going to happen today where we’re going to finish off this interview in a in a minute or so. So it’s Sunday, give us a flavour what you’ve got planned as soon as we finish,
Michael Guberti [46:21]
I’m probably going to read 100 to 200 pages of some fiscal development book and then I’ll send out a few emails to some of my clients and forming them asking them how they’re doing First of all, and then responding to their feedback. also going to work with my brother, as my mother to plan the week ahead. I’m going to take the number of business activities I did to excellence this week on a per day basis, average them out, add one to them. So raising the standard for this upcoming week and then try to fulfil that number. So if I did Significant business tasks every day for the past week, I have to raise it to nine for the upcoming one.
David Ralph [47:06]
I’m astonished. I’m astonished Michael. And I salute you. I know with your drive your focus your ambition, you can do amazing things. And I think all of us in Join Up Dots land will remember your name because your name is gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger. I’m, I’m totally convinced of it.
Michael Guberti [47:25]
Well, thank you very much. I humbly hope that it does as well because it’s a mission I have dedicated my life to spreading.
David Ralph [47:32]
Absolutely. Well, let’s bring us to the end of the show now. And this is the part that we call a sermon on the mic. And this is when I send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. Probably not that far journey for you. If you could go back in time and speak to the young Michael, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, I’m going to play the theme tune and when it fades you out. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Michael Guberti [48:19]
Michael Guberti. Always Believe in yourself. You’ve been told this your entire life. Now it’s time to take that thought and manifest it into action on a daily basis. You don’t have to start on a daily basis, you can incrementally grow into your future success. Do it twice a week. Do it three times four times, five, six every day. Never let someone else’s words bring you down because the critics are not permanent. Success and achievers are the ridicule, ridicule, the respect of the critics paid to the champions. You walk in confidence you walk in the self belief of your own abilities. You are not condescending in any way. Because condescension is just over done confidence. You want to walk the fine line between humble and confident between and then the further advanced version, confident and condescension. You choose. Period. You choose happiness. You choose sadness, you choose achievement you choose on achievement, you choose depression, you choose joy. It’s time to make a different choice. If you’re not happy with it. always understand that you have everything that you will ever need. Socially familial resources, drive, hunger, motivation. It is all there. You’ve been equipped with the greatest strength that any other human can match. It’s time to use them to a level you never thought was possible. Do not get overwhelmed by this ideal. This is a goal to strive for over a long period of time, you do not want to jump for the ultimate end and not rationally prepare the steps that will lead you to that final success. You’re like a muscle and the connective tissue that will bring you to where you desire that ultimate huge bicep has to grow gradually melding with each Other, understanding each other, figuring out what you’re good at what you’re not, even if it’s painful to look at, even if your technology has failed you, and your email is no longer responding you if your email no longer responds, you would look at it, you would figure out what’s wrong, you would fix it. If something is no longer responding in your mindset, look at it and fix it. Because if you do that, you can leverage yourself over other people who would not be willing to see where their issues are. And that’s just an act of humbleness, being able to say you know what, I care for myself enough to look at these problems and fight until I find a solution to them. Do not worry about failure, the old imposter, the dread of the achievers or the non achievers. It’s congruent both ways. No matter your success level. Over time, you can build momentum to get over that fear. But in order to do that, you must act. You must move. It cannot only be your thoughts. It cannot only be sentiment, it must be strategy. And always have the spark to motivate yourself. motivation. It’s a huge fixture in your future prosperity. If you can motivate yourself do something, then you can achieve. If you can motivate yourself and others. You can start a movement and you know all that I just said know that This you can do it because you have the power of choice right now. You Michael can choose whether or not you want to succeed or you want to blend into the background if you want to be different or distinct and ready to conquer the world and that would be my advice to my younger self.
David Ralph [53:26]
Michael, how can our audience connect with you?
Michael Guberti [53:30]
You can connect with us on Twitter at Michael guru birdie at Mark Bertie, my awesome brother social media maven. Also our company Twitter handle at teenager on am sorry at teenager trip t ar e p as well as teenager with an AR entrepreneur.com.
David Ralph [53:53]
We will have all the links on the show notes. Michael, thank you so much for spending time with us today at joining those dots and please go Back again, when you have more dots to join up, because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Michael gobetti Thank you so much.
Michael Guberti [54:10]
It’s been an honour David, thank you.
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