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Introducing Chris Gibson
Chris Gibson is our guest today on the Join Up Dots podcast interview.
Coming originally from Dallas, but now living blissfully on several acres of Pennsylvania countryside, today’s guest knows a thing or two about living great, feeling great, and doing things naturally.
Over the last few years he has worked enlightening people, as to how they can in his words” take back their power in the areas in which they give it away. “
Which may not mean much to you at the moment, but will certainly form the basis of our interview today.
He is regularly featured on television and radio where he shares his direct experiences, as to how we can make living a healthier lifestyle, and easy and fun too!
It is the simple no nonsense yet basic everyday living approach to his work, which has created a hugely loyal following over the years.
And with a series of publications that really tackle the pain points of people lives, such as “Acne Free in 3 Days: How I Cleared my Acne in Only 3 Days ” and “Weight Loss By The Numbers” selling in large numbers he is sought after as the man to help.
And its not a surprise as someone who suffered as a young man with weight issues, he is in a prime position to speak from experience.
So why is it if you can cure acne in three days, that so many teenagers and young adults suffer with this issue again and again.
And what was the point in his own up bringing when he realised that he had to do something about getting into shape?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only Mr Chris Gibson.
During the episode we discussed such weighty topics with Chris Gibson such as:
Why it is so important to get yourself mentally right before you start tackling the physical health we all crave.
How he remembers throwing a Doctors prescription away and that was the moment that he started taking control of his destiny.
Why it is so important to slow down and consider every decision that we make each day, to start making a positive change in our lives.
If you are in a job that is making you unhappy then you need to ask yourself “Why is it doing this to me?” and try to resolve the problem not just accept it.
How you don’t need to be an expert in everything nowadays, but you do need to know how to find the people that are.
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Full Transcription Of Chris Gibson Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:25]
Yes, hello there, everybody and welcome to Episode 279 of Join Up Dots with David Ralph. This is going to be one of those healthy ones that’s going to make you really look at yourself and think, well, what am I doing? Why am I not feeling as good as I should? Because our guest is one of those guys who knows how to make yourself feel good. Coming originally from Dallas but now living blissfully on several acres of Pennsylvania countryside. Today’s guest as I say he knows a thing or two about living great, feeling great and doing things naturally over the last few years. He’s working enlightening people as to how they can, in his words, take back their power in the areas in which they give it away, which may not mean much to you at the moment, but we’ll certainly form the basis of our interview today. He’s regularly featured on TV and radio where he shares his direct experiences as to how we can make a living a healthier lifestyle and easy and fun to it’s a simple no nonsense yet basic everyday living approach to his work, which has created a huge loyal following over the years. And with a series of publications that really tackle the pain points of people’s lives, such as acne free in three days how I cleared my acne and only three days and weight loss been a numbers setting in large numbers. He is sought after as the man to help and it’s not a surprise as someone who suffered as a young man with weight issues. He’s now in a prime position to speak from experience. So why is it if you can cure acne in three days at so many teenagers and young adults suffer with this issue again and again. And what was the point in his own upbringing when he realised had to do something about getting into shape? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr. Chris Gibson. How are you, Chris?
Chris Gibson [2:10]
I’m great. And it’s a pleasure to be here. Of course.
David Ralph [2:13]
It’s always a pleasure to have somebody in my vicinity, who I don’t know a lot about. And it’s funny because when I started researching you, there’s an awful lot about you professionally, but there’s not an awful lot about you personally, you’re kind of a man of mystery. I pride myself in virtual stalking and digging around and I couldn’t find the dirt on you, Chris, how have you managed it?
Chris Gibson [2:38]
Well, I try not to have any dirt. Now, I think it’s just I been so focused on the work, and it really I because I live that work every day. Pretty much that’s all you see about me and and I have all the regular stuff that people deal with. But I really am focused on the work and I To try to, to live my own life, the way that you know, sets an example and shows people that you can have success, you can overcome the depths that happen invariably to everyone. And you can really enjoy life, you can make it through those ups and downs and you find kind of the balance in your life. And that’s kind of how I try to live all the time.
David Ralph [3:25]
So it’s always a key sort of message to the whole show. And obviously, we will sort of delve into it in in greater depth. But just to kick off so you do believe that everyone can have a life that is more fun than they’re having now. They can feel better than they are now and literally have their cake and eat it.
Chris Gibson [3:43]
Yeah, I do. And it really has a lot to do with I’ve discovered over the years, things emerge and evolve even when you are a practitioner and you’re helping clients things evolve in you as well. And what I’ve seen is that the degree to where people feel They’re living a better life or a better lifestyle they’re happier is to the degree that they feel they can have impact. And so if someone is feeling victimised, or they’re dealing with a lot of crises at the moment, you know, they’re one of those periods where things just start going, right? A lot of times, you know, they give the power away to that. And because you feel like you can’t have any impact and you feel somewhat helpless, it it creates kind of that dynamic that just keeps that vicious cycle going. So what I try to help folks do and what I have to work on it myself to at times, is to realise that there are these these ups and downs if you want to call them that and that they don’t have to have the impact on you that you can allow by keeping your own power and realising you do have impact. And usually what that means is you have to slow down and really look at what you want, and what actions you’re taking daily, almost subconsciously, that are either moving you toward that goal or toward that lifestyle or toward health or finances being what they need to be for you? Or are you making the subconscious choices that keep you stuck, or actually move you away from those goals. And if you can identify that, then you can begin to make different small, tiny changes in your decision making and it will completely change and alter the life that you’re experiencing in a relatively short amount of time.
David Ralph [5:25]
So are you saying for all the listeners out there, but if they’re in a kind of crappy situation, they’re feeling a bit sort of rubbish, as you do every now and again, when you’re going and you’re doing a job that you don’t really like? Is it more mental than physical? Because I see a lot of time people go, right, I’m going to get a gym membership and I’m going to go every single day and I’m going to feel great and my life is going to be great. But mentally they’re not right. They’re just very fit. Is it better to get the mental aspect first Ben the fitness or is it wise to do both of them.
Chris Gibson [5:58]
I think it’s best to start With the mindset, and understand that you need to set realistic goals, I think if you have been living a life where you’re working 12 hours a day, and you have a family you’re taking care of, and you need to have fitness. I mean, that’s, that should be a priority. I mean, it’s you and your health and without your health, you can’t do all the things you’re doing, and won’t be able to continue to. So that does need to be a priority. And you know, that is why people at the beginning of every year try to set that. But what you have to do is you have to set it realistically, you have to carve out the time, and you have to make those tiny decisions. And you know, maybe you can only go for half an hour, maybe you can only go three times a week or two times a week to start. But the key is to start and to be able to do it where you’re going to accomplish it because the feedback you’re giving yourself subconsciously, when you do make that appointment and you make that half hour twice a week, let’s say is that it begins to build. It begins to that that small change I was talking about it begins to build a little bit of momentum. It didn’t begin to build some empowerment, you start to feel that Like, okay, I really can make a difference. I was able to go two days a week, where else can I find time to improve and continue to grow that piece of my life? So I have my fitness is a priority. And oftentimes, what happens is all of the things that we set up the structure we have around us, when we go to make a change that structure around us, isn’t there support that change? That structure is a reflection of where we are right now. So we realise you’re going to have some resistance, sometimes it’s from other people, sometimes it’s internally, it will seem like life is getting in the way. So you want to make the small accomplishments. And as I say, people do this as Jackie said, they get a gym membership. I’m going to go work out you know, okay, you probably didn’t get out of shape in a week. You’re not going to be in shape in a week. So let’s be realistic. Let’s let’s get the gym membership. Let’s set a time we can go fit it in what maybe it’s one day a week you start with it’ll make a difference. And that’s where people I think They overreach and then what happens is you can’t make the appointments or you don’t get the results quickly enough, or you’re not able to change your structured life to fit what you want to do fast enough, and you get discouraged and you give up and then it lowers your self esteem because you feel bad about I didn’t do it again, you know, feel gut failure feeling. So you want to set things that you can accomplish. Sometimes I tell people, it’s better to under to under accomplish at first, just to get the thing that you’re wanting to do going. Let’s take finances, for instance, it’s the same thing, say people need to really save money, you know, I don’t have the mindset. Well, you know, you can look and find money and everybody can do this, because I do this exercise with people all different wealth levels, and start with $1 a week. But that in savings, that sounds silly, you know, to a lot of people dollar that says, Well, you know what, that’s $7 a week, right? And then that’s $28 a month. So When you start doing that, it becomes a habit. And that little small thing that seems so insignificant $1 you know, whatever you want to do, begins to build its own momentum within you. And it’s you’re taking your power back and making that change. And sometimes you have to start small, sometimes you can reach and some people can reach in and do really big things really quickly. But what I find is if you want to make a long term lifestyle change, if you really want to change your finances, you want to change your health, you have to change your fitness level or your relationships or anything, if you have to start small usually, and you have to bake it where it’s almost inconsequential for you to do it. But just be taking the action to do it. You open the door and you will you’ll see your mind, your subconscious mind will begin to support you, your life around you, your structure will begin to support you. So start small, so it doesn’t have you have to change the world in a day.
David Ralph [9:54]
But Have you always been low by if we take you back into that little Chris Gibson. There’s the five year old eight year old when? I’m not sure how old are you, Chris?
Chris Gibson [10:05]
I just turned 50 Believe it or not last March, so I may be 51 and this March. There’s not any tiny people don’t believe it. I don’t believe it. People don’t believe it. Yeah, they don’t believe it. I’ve had this conversation last evening with them. I met some new friends and they’re like, you’re How old?
David Ralph [10:22]
I’m literally astonished. Because I’m looking at a picture of you. And you look like you’re straight out of college. And yeah, well, life is obviously good for you now and I salute you. Yeah, I’m grading folding two pieces as we speak. But you you’ve got the excellent to have you once you’ve thrown me there. So you’re 50 years old. So you’re actually older than me by six years. So we grew up in a generation that were more active, we didn’t have X boxes. We didn’t have 400 TV channels, right? We were on bikes whizzing around doing stuff. So the little sort of Chris Gibson Woozi a naturally fit person, but Ben lost his way. And Ben found it again. Is this how it’s happened?
Chris Gibson [11:07]
Well, I think what happened was that is I had situations with as you’d spoke of with my skin and my weight that happened to me, that did not support my self esteem very well. So I, again, looking back at that time, it’s very clear to me now how I, that’s what I took about the structured life you have around you supports whatever your beliefs are, wherever you are at the moment. So I didn’t have a lot of support. Not not out of meanness, but like my parents supported me and took me to the dermatologist. And that’s a tonne of support right there because it was expensive, but there wasn’t the support mechanisms available and information certainly was not available the way it is now you couldn’t hop on a computer and look something up. So I sort of had to run out of run out of all, you know, all the alternatives that were coming to me to get well to clear up my skin to feel good about my life, it was a big deal to me I wanted to be in I wanted to be the weatherman back then I wanted to be a broadcaster. And you know, I even had a talent agent Tell me until you clear up your skin, you’re not going to get a job, which is not even true. I mean, that’s not true. I know that now. But then I believe that that was the structure. Yeah, was very harsh. And that was the structure. That was the life I was creating at the time because I didn’t know that. So I had to go out and figure it out. You know, when the medicines didn’t work. I had to go to the library and start going to the health food stores. I talked about that in the book actually. And I figured it out that it was it was the decisions I was I was making, you know, having a lot of sugar in my diet I had had been on antibiotics. When I was a baby, I was a preemie premature baby. So they had given me antibiotics for the ear infections and stuff and we all know now that those things are not the things that we want to try to do to Folks because it sets up their immune system for problems but, you know, I was eating whatever was available. I mean, my mom was we had the meat starch and vegetable meals and we didn’t have to carry a lot of sweet things in the house. But because of my medical situation live my history up to that point.
I had problems they diagnosed me as
would they call it back now? It’s all a JD all these they got all these labels for but hyperactive, yeah, they took sugar out of my diet, which there wasn’t a lot of it in there. So I had all of this weird stuff. The special miss that was not exactly uplifting, you know, you don’t want to be special for those reasons. So especially as a teen and a young adult, so I figured it out. I figured out what to do. And I took my power back and how
David Ralph [13:48]
did you think of it out because you say like, that’s easy, but I know so many people and I was very fortunate. You know, I could probably get more spots. Now when I haven’t shaved for a few days. When I did when I was going through puberty, I didn’t get any. So I kind of breezed it through. But how many of us sort of like sorted it out? I like the way you say that because it just sounds like a throwaway comment. But there was obviously a lot of work involved.
Chris Gibson [14:12]
It was a lot of work and what what happened was, I kept there’s two pieces of that one, I traditionally did the truest, traditional thing, I went to the dermatologist, you know, I took Accutane, all the stuff, I had to go get the blood test and all of the things you have to do all the time on that drug, and my skin would clear up for a little while and then would be worse again. So I finally what what, what the straw that broke the camel’s proverbial back, right? I went to this very expensive dermatologist who was in my 20s and I had my own money to do so top of the line. Great, great lady, very smart, and I learned a lot from these dermatologist. I really did. But all she could offer me was the same thing. I said I paid the $300 with offices and in 1987 88 that’s a lot of money. 300 bucks. So I’m sitting there thinking, Okay, she’s going to be able to help me because this is like the top dermatologist. And she walked in and she goes, Well, you’ve taken everything. All I can really do is write you out a prescription for antibiotics. And it’s topical creams, the same, same stuff. So I paid my $300 that day, and I dropped the prescription in the trash can on the way out the door.
David Ralph [15:25]
But was so symbolic when you look back on it now, was that a symbolic moment in your life when you took control? Basically, yeah,
Chris Gibson [15:31]
I like I took my power back, the minute I dropped that prescription, and it floated down into that garbage can. As I went out that door, I walked out of that doctor’s office with my own power. Now, I didn’t know that. I felt pretty depressing, actually. But I had taken my power back by not going back on the regimen that I already knew would work. So what happens is, is and this is common in all of these cases where people begin to take their power back, there’s a first kind of a sense of not knowing why To do, you’re at a loss, like, Am I going to have this problem for the rest of my life? And when I was like my skin gonna be all scarred up, because I’d seen people with that problem? And is it going to keep me from doing what I want to do in my life? You know, these are the things you were I was feeling. And I talked about that. And I sat in the car and I thought, you know what, there’s gotta be something and where it came from, not sure, somewhere in my subconscious mind, because I had let go of that vicious cycle I had been on. It said, health food store gothica, you know, you know what I will I’m going to go to the Replace, maybe there’s a different way for me to do this. And I talked about that in the book, and I went into the herbal store, and it was a very wonderful woman that ran the place and put me on special herbs. And I did a cleanse and I saw some results wasn’t perfect, but I did see, I saw impact. And I went Wow, okay, that’s really crazy, that the medicines don’t do anything. But if I take this stuff, it has an impact.
David Ralph [16:57]
So you actually He because he was herbal medicine,
Chris Gibson [17:04]
with medicine, you know, I had given my power away to the methods that I thought, you know, the more money you pay for something, right? It does. So, yeah, I took my power back that day and I start on the herbs and then I wasn’t completely happy, but it was better. And then I learned about foods. I read a book called spiritual nutrition and the rainbow diet, and I took a processed food vacation, which really made a big difference in my skin. And here’s that when I really got it. I had been doing that healthier eating for quite a while, but I loved Coca Cola. You know, and I’m not bashing any food or eat. Some people can eat things, and they never bother them. It’s different for everyone. So I never like get on the soapbox about one thing or another. You have to learn again, take your power back and understand and listen to your body. But it was a really hot day, Dallas, Texas July and I walked into a convenience store and I said you know what i want to come That’s what I want. So I went over there and filled the Coca Cola, you know, cup up, the big gulp is here, you know, that’s what it’s called. It truly is. It’s like 64 ounces of Coca Cola. And I sat down in my car I Oh, forget it. I can see this in my head. All these years later, had one foot out the door, the doors on the keys are in the ignition and the thing is beeping and I start sipping on this Coca Cola, delicious Lee cold ice cold coca on 100 degree day, and I look in the mirror and what do I see? All of a sudden, all of the spots that I had left, that had not gone away, began to get red. They begin to get really red. And I went, Oh my gosh, this stuff is like, poison to me. But
David Ralph [18:48]
just just for that second. So so we’re not we’re not talking sort of. It was a vision. This actually happened but you
Chris Gibson [18:55]
know, it actually happened. Yeah, I’m watching my skin become inflamed. in the rearview mirror of my car, and that’s weird, isn’t it? Well, what I found out was I had what was called a Candida yeast overgrowth, which is very typical in a lot of people in the Western diet where it’s a lot of processed food. It’s a lot of, you know, modified foods with a lot of sugar, refined sugars, that kind of thing. What happens is, excuse me is the yeast growth gets out of hand, a natural yeast that we all have in our intestinal system. So I we hear about probiotics all the time that I eat the yoghurt and all the stuff to keep that that balance while I was out of balance, and when that sugar hit my system, because it’s a yeast. The yeast began to produce more of the toxins. And because I had been on the herbs and because I had been doing cleanses, I was hypersensitive and a hypersensitive state. So the minute that sugar hit my bloodstream and my blood sugar went up the yeast in my you know, I just just attract which has everything to do with your immune system. We all know that now but back then no one was talking about that. Well, I saw the effect of that immediately within 15 minutes. I was having breakouts.
David Ralph [20:10]
So you like a rat? You had a coke problem.
Chris Gibson [20:13]
Yeah. Literally. Yeah. So that was my last Coca Cola. I’ll drink Diet Coke now occasionally, but that was my least. That was my last Coca Cola ever. That was my last sugary drink that day. Isn’t it amazing?
David Ralph [20:30]
But things that seemingly mundane really make a difference in people’s lives. Well, you know, just this you’re sitting there in a car you’re having a dream, but on the like, Join Up Dots timeline that we talked about. That’s a big door. That’s a real key moment in your life, isn’t it?
Chris Gibson [20:47]
Yeah, it was huge. It was a turning point. So you know, I I learned what to do. I cleaned up my I didn’t go talk about this at people. I lead my life. I worked for a large phone company here. For a long time I did training, I had a regular life that wasn’t in broadcasting, obviously, I got that shot down by the television at the time. And it’s really funny because I would help people when they would kind of be, or they had skin problems, or it would come up in a conversation often on through the years. And I would tell them what I did, and they would start doing it. And they would find out it was hard to make those changes because again, we structure our lives are structured to support wherever we are at the moment. So they were running to resistance. I was able to help with that. It wasn’t until years later, when I was writing training manuals online for companies to market online to help them with marketing. That I met a business partner who had been a virtual partner had been helping me create websites, he did the websites, I did the the copy and the writing part. And so when he met me, he and his wife are like, wow, you don’t look your age. I was 40 I just turned 40 And so we got in a discussion he goes, you really should write about that. I mean, people, this is a big problem. You know, it’s a problem that my family and I’m not going to ever thought about that. So we put together a little bitty tome, as I call it, it was probably about 16 pages, which talked about my, you know, what I’d been through, we put it online as a little ebook. And it went nuts everywhere. I mean, literally, overnight, that thing was selling like hotcakes. I’m like, wow, this is crazy. So I stayed in touch with the people who purchase the book, the book, let the E book and I got questions. We did research and we sent it off to find you know, head scientific research on the things why they work for me because I never really knew why so so
David Ralph [22:42]
Luke’s not genetic. When you put it down to your sort of healthy way of living Do you think
Chris Gibson [22:47]
I think I think your gender your genetics support you, but I think it’s really your it’s your it’s these tiny, the thing that I I see now and I probably preach the most That you have to slow down and understand what you’re thinking and the choices that you make these teeny tiny, little decisions, you know, people who feel stuck, Oh, I can’t change that. So nothing ever gets better than that, like, you know, it’s really in that it’s in there, these little tiny things that you’re doing, you’re not even thinking about doing, you’re reaching for a candy bar, your, you know, whatever it is for you. Not even consciously, you’re not even looking at a label to see what you know, ingredients might be in there causing your problems. So you, you have to slow down everything and we sped up as a society and as a globally, we sped up. We don’t really look at things very closely. We don’t have time are so we say. So. The power is in those tiny little decisions. So when somebody when a TV when I go on TV, and they come into the green room is invariably always happens. And they say okay, we’re ready for Chris Gibson. Is he here? And I’m like, right here and now I get to tell him that you’re not what we expected. Like, well, well, you don’t look your age and like, Well, how do I have to be? You know? Do you
David Ralph [24:06]
have anything, Chris?
Chris Gibson [24:08]
No, I have a little bit of grey now on the sideburns and on the temples, get that from my dad
David Ralph [24:14]
going decisions on it my life and
Chris Gibson [24:18]
it’s just well, and they add up over time. So, and the here’s the thing, here’s the other piece is that people want people want instant results. You know, we want to like, be thin now, even though it took us however long to get here. We want to be healthy right now. And you can make those mental decisions internally and you will feel better and you will start the process. But you have to allow time for the results to show up. It doesn’t work that it takes long to get to a negative thing, but we should expect it to be a positive thing the next day. And what happens is people set themselves up for frustration and fear and failure ultimately that way. So it’s really sitting down and thinking about keeping a journal Usually what I tell most people is just keep a journal. If it’s diet, say we’re working on, keep a journal, you know, write down the things that you eat. Or if you’ve got a smartphone, it’s got a recorder in it, just say what you ate all day. And then look back at that week. And you will see now what usually happens is people will start to reach for something they know they’re not supposed to, but they’re conscious of it now, and they won’t have the, you know, half a gallon of ice cream they normally have in front of the TV at night. They won’t do that because either they’re paying attention now to what they’re doing. You see what I’m saying? See the difference? So they’ll they won’t put that down because they didn’t do it because they were paying attention this time. So usually what I do when I meet with a client the second time is are asked those questions. So was there anything you normally do that you didn’t do? This week? Like Did you just something you normally eat that you decided you’re you were paying attention to so I better not? He does not a good for me? Well, very good. People will say Well, yeah, I usually do this. No, I don’t see you’re already Changing your decisions just by being conscious of them just by being aware. So you bring all this stuff conscious and then you look at your goals and go, Okay, well, the things I’m doing here don’t really support me getting to that point or being healthier, having savings or managing my money better. I mean, I were people on finances, they don’t even register, they don’t even check their check register. Like how do you know what you spend? How do you know? You know, and that it’s just bringing a conscious first and then by bringing conscious you have the power to begin making those tiny changes. You don’t have to do everything at once and do it all and some people want to do that turn over a whole new lead. Some people are literally shocked. You know, relationships the same thing. I would say keep an eye in every conversation you have. Try to keep a mindfulness keep a journal if it didn’t go well or well particularly write those down. Well if they begin to be consciously but you know, I really pick on that person, more than I thought. I don’t really listen, or haven’t been listening. So excuse me, it’s really about bringing things forward into your consciousness so that you can do something with them because as long as they say subconscious, you’re just going to keep doing the same things. And the way I prove that point with people is this. If you know how to drive a car, you get in your car, you don’t think too much about me try to pay attention to people on the road and make sure they don’t hit you and you don’t hit them and you pay attention to traffic lights on but think back when you were learning to drive your car. how hard that was. To remember all of the stuff that you had to remember to do. It was like you Okay, I gotta put this first I gotta make sure I take the parking brake off. I got the key. I need to check this I need to make sure my mirrors are right. The people do all so funny because I remember taking driver’s ed here in the US and they put you through all this stuff it driving cars quite quite a lot of work, but we do it without even thinking about it anymore. That’s how How much your subconscious mind can take things and operate it in your life without you out even without even being aware of it?
David Ralph [28:08]
Well, yeah, it totally is crazy. And what I’m fascinated about is, I’m going to play some words. And then I want to talk about the moment that you decided that this was going to be your path because the Opus these you can hear the passion in you. So this is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [28:23]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [28:50]
Now would be safe, you obviously wanted to be the weatherman and you were growing up to do that. And at this point, did you have a focus of a van van Were you aiming to be because it’s come together for you big time? And did you take a chance on doing something you love? like Jim said, or was it something that just found you?
Chris Gibson [29:10]
Well, it was an evolution. For me it was putting two pieces together, there was a path that I was on that I wasn’t recognising in health and wellness. And I believe that everyone has something to offer, whether it’s to their family or to their friends or to their community or to the world at large. And of course Jim Carrey’s wonderful, a wonderful example of that. And what he’s saying is so true. We hear that over and over again. He went for his gift because he knew what his gift was. I interestingly enough, my mom was a writer. She wrote poetry and screenplays and she did okay, but she had that same kind of limiting. This wasn’t really sure if they were getting, you know, that kind of thing. So I like to write but it never occurred to me to be a writer was really strange. You know, I’d taken all these broadcasting things I had let that go and done what his father did, essentially given up on all of that and gone into something that was It’s okay, I was good at it. I like people I love being around people. I like being in front of them and teaching and training. And I liked writing scripts for the phone company, all those different things I enjoyed those parts of a bit wasn’t completely fulfilling. And I made a lot of money at that job. I was good at it. But there was something missing. And it wasn’t until the book took off. And I will tell you, what I knew was when I got my first TV spot. And the way I got that TV spot, I was actually up in Toronto, Canada at a skincare forum helping another company out that I liked their products at the time, I was helping them. So I just went up there to be helpful and they were we had my book for free sitting down on the table, you know, to try to help them you know, finding books and stuff. Now, I wasn’t a real big deal. I mean, I’ve done you know, some book signings and I was selling a lot of books, but I wasn’t known as a TV producer from Ottawa, Canada picked up one of the books for free, obviously. And she had had skin problems her entire life. She’s in her 30s. Although forget this, and I got this phone call. And she tried what I talked about in the book, and it worked. She took her power back, she said, You wouldn’t believe how much I spent and how many doctors I’ve gone to and how I’ve dealt with this forever. I became a producer, I always wanted to be on camera, and I became a producer. So I could do what I love without having to be shamed. And it’s as close as I could get. That’s what, you know, this is a very great theme that you pick because it was the same sort of thing. What she asked me if I would come up and be on TV and talk about it, right? I’m like, oh, okay, I wasn’t
David Ralph [31:43]
scared. When she said that. Did you go Oh, no, no, I’m not coming.
Chris Gibson [31:49]
I’m gonna tell you it was almost like I was moving. It’s almost like I shut off and something else took over. It was like, this whole period of time was a couple of weeks where I went up there. It was almost like being in a dream state was really weird. Something was opened in me that had not been opened before. And I was like, Okay, I need to get this, I need to be able to talk about this. I need to show them how to do this. So I put together rather than a book interview, where I just sit there and talk about my book, I put together all of this stuff, I could demonstrate the techniques that I use that I learned the dermatologist, so when I went up there, that was different, and they were really excited because here I was, I wouldn’t just sit there and talk about my problems in the book and how I solve them. I was going to show people something. Well, when I got on camera, I did well, I didn’t know I did well, but I did well, so that was your training very, very well coming out, wasn’t it? He all the sudden all those broadcasts, everything you talked about joining the dots, like oh my God, my mom’s like, when she thought she was being funny. She’s like, well, at least all those broadcast classes we pay for Yeah. Worked out in the because I never would have thought that would would ever occur to me would happen. So here I was being a writer. Here I was talking about something. I’m very passionate and very precious. me about people taking their power back. And then the third thing was here I was on TV, which is my element. So it all came together and it was off the charts after that. I mean, we sent that tape out I was on every station over here I did two solid years of television, all the big shows, of course auto I was on a channel so that’s that’s a UK channel. So I was being broadcast everywhere Australia, all these places, didn’t know it. We were getting book sales and book orders from Australia and Ireland and you know, all these places. So it was really crazy. It was really crazy. And all about acne. So I was kind of a phenomena. You know, I am still the highest I sold the most books on the subject of anybody ever and not including medical doctors.
David Ralph [33:47]
And that’s not because you are dealing with pain point you provide a solution.
Chris Gibson [33:55]
listeners. Yeah, I wasn’t a dermatologist. Yeah, I wasn’t a dermatologist. You know, you look Well knew what I went through. Yeah, you
David Ralph [34:02]
found something and you are providing something that people want. And that is where value comes, doesn’t it? And for you, you probably thought, Well, actually, this this wasn’t rocket science. Anyone could have done this, but you did it.
Chris Gibson [34:15]
Yeah, it was really amazing. And then of course, there are other things health and wellness that I, I deal with. And of course, now today, it’s all evolved to what we’re talking about. And that is, it doesn’t really matter where your lesson is your life lesson, what you’re dealing with whatever is finances, relationships, you know, fitness, they’re all connected, all those things are connected in whatever quadrant you’re in. When you take your power back in that area, and you begin to be conscious of things and you make those changes, guess what happens? All of the other quadrants begin to change too. It’s really kind of interesting to watch people, they’ll take their power back in one place, it’s given them so much trouble, just been a devil to them their whole life and then suddenly, all of the other areas that have been impacted by that began to change and become more positive. So that’s it doesn’t really matter what the lesson is, it’s still the same thing about bringing things conscious, looking at what you really want, and looking at the actions you’re taking and removing those that are keeping you from getting there or changing them
David Ralph [35:12]
a little at a time. So So are you saying for us, oh, if there’s somebody out there and they’re in a rubbish email job, and I really hate it, to consider that it’s not an inexperienced and wasted, there’s something in there that they can take to help them move on to the next position.
Chris Gibson [35:30]
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, everything and you know, it’s funny the further life you get you it’s easy of hindsight, but you don’t have to wait to get the hindsight you can actually bring the stuff conscious in your life. You’re in a job that that doesn’t make you happy. The first question you have to ask is why? Well, maybe it’s the money. You know, maybe it’s because it’s as that producer said or as even for me working for the phone company, all those those first years. It was as close as I could get to what I was good at, I thought That was you know, was enough at first but then you have to begin to look at that well, what what does being unhappy where what that’s probably impacting your finances even if you’re making good money, that’s probably because you’re probably spending money, most likely to feel better that you wouldn’t normally spend. A lot of times relationships take a beating, when it’s that way. And if you feel stuck and powerless, then you have this whole self esteem issue. And it just is a vicious cycle. It just keeps people stuck there. And they’ll say, well, there isn’t another job out there. And I tell you, I have seen this time and time again. Once people begin to make those changes, it opens up and the thing will show up. The job opportunity will show up. It will it’s either you did was there and you didn’t see it before or it just shows up but you you as a soul as a person as a personality has to become conscious of what you’re doing. It’s not going to show up. If you’re unconsciously putting out this constant you know victimisation or martyr. hood or whatever, however, you’re, you’re stuck in that situation, if you continue to perpetrate that on yourself, you won’t move. And that’s, that’s the hard part to get someone to see. A lot of times, when we have people who’ve had bad car accidents, or they’ve had near death situations from, they’ll come back from that crisis. And they get it. You know, I mean, I’m not talking about the, you know, the tunnel of light and all that I’m talking about their different, what’s important to them becomes a priority, and nothing will round them will have changed just the energy and this the fact that they’re conscious. You know what, I really love my mom and dad, I need to fix that. We haven’t spoken in 10 or 15 years, I almost died. That’s crazy. See, it changed. It changed the energy. It changed the thought process around that,
David Ralph [37:44]
but so when I agree with that, because I’ve had 279 interviews, and I would say 99% of them, people go I started moving forward when I was at my lowest point and they got to that point and it might Be back there and sitting in a car and I just about to commit suicide, or they look in a bank account, and their ex wife has taken every single bit of money away from them. And it seems to be in life, you get to a point of total loss, which is when we take movement forward. And if you’re in a position where you’re quite comfortable, you don’t want to risk it. So you hold it all close, and even if it’s rubbish, and even if it’s a job you don’t like doing, it’s a job that so I’ll keep my money, that’s fine. And it’s a shame, isn’t it? And we seem to do well, we seem to have to wait until it becomes really bad before we do anything about it.
Chris Gibson [38:36]
Exactly. And, and and that’s it. You don’t have to do that in there. And there’s not. They’re just that information isn’t been really available. You know, it’s funny, all of the stuff that I talked about, I talked about how things evolved, that I talked about on TV 10 years ago, eight years ago, five years ago. I mean, I was going up on Fox News, you know, they love to challenge anything here. That one does. Hadn’t Doctor on there and he was like, oh, it doesn’t really you know we don’t know if glycemic index blood sugar really impacts acne, we don’t know if antibiotics well now, that’s that’s everywhere about you know you need to balance your digestive system you know we had to have mersa teach us that lesson we had to have an antibiotic for biotic problem that was killing people because it had been overused. Now we have superbugs to get it. So now people get it. So now, because that information is out there, I don’t really have to push too much on it anymore. It’s kind of there and it’s easy to get that across. Now what’s evolved in my messages is learning to take your power back. And what happened that crystallised that three, almost four years ago, in fact, February 28, four years ago, was that my mom passed away from an illness that she had been battling where we, as much as I know, as much as I have treated and worked with people on the holistic side knew better She took some medication for disease shackled, sorry sarcoid it’s sort of like a college and disease and it gets in your, in your organs and it stiffens them. It makes the cells are stiff so they don’t operate well. Well, we went to see a doctor, we went to see a specialist and, you know, she was having trouble breathing and all of this stuff was going on with her. And he prescribed steroids. In the back of my mind, I know steroids are not good for you. You know, they’re not they press something down, as long as you’re on them. And as soon as you’re off of them, it comes back, right? Well, they have on the steroids, and she’s not doing well on them. And, you know, we go into the hospital, and she’s like, I don’t understand why I can’t see, well, I’m shaking. I felt terrible. You know, she had all these tiny little fractures all through her bones and documents. Well, that’s the effect of the steroids you’ve been on. And we can take them off, but the disease will accelerate and she’s like a I don’t understand. Why didn’t I know this? Why didn’t I know when I, you know, when I started taking this, this would be what would happen. And you know what the nurse said there, they wouldn’t have signed up for the programme. And they told you all that. So, to make a long story short, they took her off and medications. And she passed away, probably about three days later. And she did it with dignity. My sister and I were there, we were holding her hand, she gave us the squeeze and off she went. She laughed. And, you know, it was it. What happened to me in that moment, though, was that it solidified in me that people give so much power away and don’t check things out and don’t want to take the time to know and it can cost you your life. So, it it really solidified this new message. It’s not a new message, but it’s a larger message and it is that there are experts out there who can help you that you can trust that you will Reach out for them and get the information and then begin to bring the things in your life that you’re not pleased with that are holding you back or they’re making you unhealthy. Bring those things conscious, take your power back, start to make some different decisions, some tiny, tiny ones, you know, maybe it’s cutting out ice cream, that’s where you start, I don’t know, whatever it is, you start with these tiny little decisions and you build on that and very quickly, your life will be different very quickly, and then it will spill over and all the other areas.
David Ralph [42:29]
So so tokina X is Chris, is it more important, the qualifications or the experience? Because there are people out there but I’ve got all the qualifications in the world. My local doctor, I want to say his name, but if you’re listening doctor, you know who you are. I don’t trust him at all. I go down there. I went down there once feeling terrible, sat there and he said, What do you want me to do for you? And I went make me better and that was it. That was the last time I’ve ever been down there. So is it more important to have experiences but you Go and find people that have been through it, or is it better to look for the
Chris Gibson [43:03]
Yeah. And that’s a great question. And you know, it’s funny because today we have the internet, I talked about how hard it was to get information and flow with the internet now where you can prove any point, whether it’s valid or not, whether it’s true or not, you can prove it on the internet, right? Because people will write even fake news is these days. So while the internet was kind of helpful for a while now, it’s not very helpful for people that trust a lot of what they find. So when I went to put together my new platform, or what I call it, I wanted experts and this will answer that question that walked their talk. They didn’t have to be famous. They didn’t have to be a dr. oz or Oprah or anything like that. All they needed to do was be effective, have a great track record, and integrity, and live the message that they gave, because that’s what I do. And so what we found was was that by providing someone like that to someone, the real change begins to happen because it’s usually these folks like you’re talking about these type of experts have lived the problem have have had something happen that they had to, to take their power back and change. So they get it. They don’t leave that piece out. They don’t just hand somebody a fitness programme or they don’t just hand somebody a diet change or they don’t just hand somebody do this thing in your relationship and it’ll you know, it’s not like that, but then I need to
Unknown Speaker [44:24]
have as well.
Chris Gibson [44:25]
Yes, yeah, you need to be qualified and what I said a qualified, like we have a medical doctor, that’s one of our experts who was almost died from this virus that no one could find a cure for and they were just handing her the medicines. And she’s she made the connection. You know, okay, this has something to do with me too. There’s something going on with me personally. And without getting too much into her story. She was able to clear her own problem up and now practices medicine. She’s a practising doctor, an emergency room doctor, can you imagine and she Mind Body medicine where she treats both both the mental and emotional aspects and the physical. So that to me, is a qualified doctor with a qualified experience and a qualified way of helping others because she gets it and myself because
David Ralph [45:21]
you want to think ahead of it all. where’s where’s your qualifications and background? Obviously, you’ve gone through the experience, you provided these books, I’ve stood up against these experts. But but can people throw that at you?
Chris Gibson [45:35]
Well, what I try to do is I try to be, as you said, it’s not so much the, the the figurehead of it, but what I what I try to do is I want to bring the continuity, because that’s my brand. My brand is take your power back. You know, now, I don’t know everything. I’m not a financial wizard, but there are people who live that experience and know how to help people figure out their money. Without them feeling like dirt. You know, I mean, you know, all this stuff that goes on when people’s money isn’t handled right. So it’s sort of like, I it’s like having a TV show with a guest. I still come in and do my thing. I still talk about health and wellness, I still talk about skincare. I still do that. And over here we have a chef called Rachael Ray, she has a show I was kind of parrot kind of what we’re doing to that because she comes down she cooks or meal, because that’s what people know her for. But then she has all these great guests that give really good information that you can trust that what they’re interesting that have have come through a fire and survived it. We have a stress expert who had a terrible, terrible bout with cancer and survived it. And she’s just amazing. And she’s amazing because she’s been through that fire and she’s qualified, you know, she’s got her licence and all of the things that they need, so their qualifications are there. My qualification is I’m the personality. I’m the person that’s going to come in and be the host and I sit there I asked questions much like you’re asking me and draw out the conversations. And yet we provide, you know, real resources and real techniques. That’s a really great thing that I love about the experts that I’ve accumulated for my platform living, healthy living smart club, is that they are their licence, and they can give people techniques that they can use that will work. And we all get it. You know, we all get it, because we’ve been through something
David Ralph [47:27]
because what you’ve done, which is brilliant in this, and really, this is like the nugget of gold for the whole episode. If the listeners out there, they’ve got an idea. But you don’t have to be the expert on it today. They can find people to pull the information. And now globally, you can find people across the world that can help them but you don’t actually need to sort of understand it. When I started doing anything maybe 10 years ago on the online. I thought that if I was going to talk about something, I had to know it better than anyone else, but Now I think to myself, no, I don’t, I just need to find somebody that knows it better than me and present that information instead.
Chris Gibson [48:07]
Right. And that’s what kind of what happened with me as folks were coming. I was working with clients and people were coming to me with other situations, which I could be helpful in. But it really weren’t my area of expertise. I mean, when you’ve gone through any kind of fire, you know, we had this great recession that happened and that affected all of us. There are things I can teach on how I survived that, which is be a whole nother show. But there are experts that can give techniques and ways to to, you know, balance out whatever it is, again, health, maybe your relationships aren’t working well. Maybe you’re just stressed out all the time. Maybe, you know, you lose some weight, get fit, you really change that. My message is life is short. So it needs to be lived as fully as possible with as much passion as possible, and you should be enjoying it. If you’re not then it’s yours. sponsibility is the person in your life directing it all to make the changes, because no one can do that for you. But you can as you said, you can find people to mentor you. And you don’t have to you can buy their books sometimes, you know, some of the biggest things that have happened to me them from books I read, that just, you know, opened up the channel in my head where I got something that I had not gotten before, so you know that it’s there and it doesn’t have to cost you a bunch of money.
David Ralph [49:28]
Did you do love your life? what you’re doing now? Is it really Chris Gibson? Is it authentic? Is it playing to all your stuff?
Chris Gibson [49:36]
It is now and I went through a period as I said, the books the all that evolved to a certain point. And then I realised I don’t want to be just I don’t want to talk about skincare my whole life. That’s not all I know. You know, it’s not where that’s a part of what I’m doing, but it’s not everything. So, so yeah, I’m to that point now, but I just got to that point. It took me the last four years to really Get here and I think when my mom passed away that’s what really that’s what I caught it. You know, I got it. Oh, you know what I need to be this is this is what feels good to me. This is where I’m helpful to people this is this is it, you know, the dope the acne book was a doorway is still a great thing I still help a tonne of people with that, you know, that’s not going to go away. But it opened up this channel for me to say, you know, look, you’re not stuck.
No matter how much you think you’re stuck, you’re not stuck.
David Ralph [50:36]
I love this. I love this. And it leads us perfectly into the theme of the whole show. And basis is the words that Steve Jobs said 10 years ago now. And it’s it’s as powerful now as it was Ben, I think it’s going to be powerful in 20 years time. 100 years time. This is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [50:53]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear. Looking back Words 10 years later, again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [51:28]
Can you join up all your dots looking back now, Chris?
Chris Gibson [51:32]
Yeah, it’s very interesting to me, because that’s a process that you know, much like he’s talking about that you can’t see forward. You can guide yourself forward, as we’ve spoken about today by taking your power back and you can make great decisions to get you places you want to go. But there’s still that serendipitous reasoning that happens when you look back over time and see why and I think that several of those have come up in our conversation to Just like me taking broadcast, I thought I was going to be the weatherman furthest thing from the trees. I didn’t mean the weatherman. But I ended up being on a lot more TV than, you know. So there are definitely dots is right. There are definitely you can look at that I one time I did that exercise, you know, actually drew out a timeline and put down all of the different really big things that had happened for me. Just one evening, I was just doing that for some reason. And I was funny. Because I could see that about every 10 years, there were two or three really huge things that happened or went on that that or excuse me, curves in the path where I really took out
a different direction, which was interesting.
David Ralph [52:47]
And what would you be your big.if. You look back over that timeline. Bit. That was the moment that was the moment that I started really finding my path
Chris Gibson [52:59]
goes back To the day that I dropped the prescription in the trash can.
David Ralph [53:05]
Simple as that, that one, letting go of a piece of paper.
Chris Gibson [53:11]
Yeah, a piece of letting go of a piece of paper was somehow symbolic to me letting go of what I think I know what I think is the truth and being open. To see more to do more and find out more. I had no idea.
David Ralph [53:29]
I have spoken to so many people who do that exercise, and they draw a timeline and they look at the good things and the bad things that have happened that year. And there was a chap recently who says that he does it every two years, but he saves them. And then he goes back every six years and looks six years ago, and he finds the things that he marked as bad at the time when he looks back on them were actually good. And because it’s led him on to a different part two on these timeline, which is quite interesting.
Chris Gibson [54:02]
Right? No, absolutely agree with that that’s happened to me, you know, some of the worst things that happened to dark nights of the soul as we call them. Your abject, absolute last rope, sometimes will be the only way you get it. You know, and it’s like oh, and you make those big changes, and you don’t realise that, you know, you can. It’s funny. I’ve demonstrated it this way, you can put a.on a piece of paper, one dot, and you can draw a line at the top of the paper at four or five inches above it. And you can start on anywhere on that dot, which is where you are now. And depending on what angle the next dot you put above it is and you draw the line out. Down here where we are right now that small change doesn’t look like very big difference on the small on the base dot. But then when you draw the line upward, depending on where you put that angle of that.is where you end up and it’s overtime a huge difference is that making The arc is really wide. So that’s why I say start small. And that small change will lead you in a completely different direction than you’re going.
David Ralph [55:11]
Nothing. I can see that totally. Well, this is the end of the show, Chris. And this is the part that we call the Sermon on the mic when I’m going to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Chris, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m gonna play the theme tune and when it fades you up. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [55:37]
II we go with the best bit of the show.
Chris Gibson [55:53]
If I could go back in time, I would probably go to when I was 18 years old. When I wasn’t very unsure what you know, was getting out of high school and wasn’t sure what the future was going to be. And I would remind myself, in that moment in time of something a teacher had said to me, that great things were in store for me because I was deserving of such. And that thing has come to mean so much to me now that I wish I had gotten it then, because I It wasn’t until years later that I found where that had been written to me. At a particularly difficult time in my childhood, my parents were getting divorced, that that things do do do survive, things are okay. And there’s reasons behind everything that we are faced with good, bad, wonderful, crazy stuff. But it’s your story, and that the things are in store for all of us because we are deserving of such and that’s what I would tell my 18 year olds off because I wasn’t getting It then,
David Ralph [57:01]
Chris, how can our audience connect with you, sir?
Chris Gibson [57:05]
Yeah, at very simple Chris Gibson radio com. If you go Chris Gibson radio, com, there’s a place where all my information, ways to get a hold of me or more about me listen to some of my podcast shows as well that I have with different experts. So all they’re free. And that’s really this really a great place to go because it just has so much information that you can use. And again, you can connect with me there
David Ralph [57:34]
will have all the links on the show notes. Chris, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again when you have more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past, it’s actually the best way to build our futures. Mr. Chris Gibson, thank you so much.
Chris Gibson [57:51]
It was a pleasure.
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