Welcome To The Join Up Dots Business Coaching Podcast With Josey Milner
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Introducing Josey Milner
Josey Milner is today’s guest on Join Up Dots business coaching podcast.
She is a lady that has been delivering musical performances to the world since the age of seven, and I can imagine was belting them out in her bedroom even earlier than that too.
She grew up on a farm in Missouri, and could often be found hanging around the local rodeo stadiums, where she would delight in such activities as Barrel racing, and getting up on stage and singing the National Anthem to the cowboys, cowgirls and of course the audience.
There was certainly a ballsy approach to her upbringing as a small child, that has led her to take on bigger and bigger challenges as she has grown.
And those challenges have come often as she has stepped into the country music world with her well received singles “Not Pretty Enough” and the foot stomping back to rodeo roots “Cowgirls”, whilst also forming a band and playing everywhere she can.
Its the live work, that really sharpens your tools, and turns your talent into something that the world ultimately takes notice off.
How The Dots Joined Up For Josey
But don’t just think that this is a story that is about a hugely ambitious country starlet racing her way to the top, as she is also trying her hardest to give back to the world with a cause she is hugely passionate with, stopping bulling in childhood.
As she says “When I started doing rodeo pageants, I received a lot of criticism and backlash from other kids.
It was a difficult time, but thanks to the support I had with friends and family, I was able to overcome that time period.
If I can help just one person feel like they are not alone, and that things will get better, then I will have accomplished what I set out to do.”
And with a tour of schools undertaken, to speak about bullying she is taking action and inspiring youngsters throughout America to do things a different way.
During the episode we discussed such weighty topics with Josey Milner such as:
How when she started in the music business she knew she had to have a plan, as she also knew that she didn’t have a clue how to start anything, so just took lots of action.
How she remembers how she lost so many friends at college due to her belief in herself and their obvious lack of belief in themselves.
How she struggles with song writing and is scared that the process is going to be hard every time she starts.
How you have to look after yourself when you are school, and sometimes it simply comes down to standing up for what you believe is right.
How she looks back at the bullying in her life as actually part of what has made her flourish in a hard industry such as the music business.
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Audio Transcription Of Josey Milner Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes. Hello, bear world. How are we all wherever you are. This is Episode 284 of a join up dots and we’ve got a musical guest on today. And it’s one that I’ve been listening to always be honest, I’ve listened to the same song all week, because it’s been in my head. It’s been driving me crazy. But as we’re going to play later, it’s a great song and it’s going to drive you crazy as well, because you’ll begin to seek her out big time, because she is a lady that has been delivering musical performances to the world since the age of seven, and I can imagine was belting them out in a bedroom even earlier than that too. She grew up on a farm in Missouri and could often be found hanging around the local rodeo Stadium, where she would delight in such activities as barrel racing, and getting up on stage and singing the national anthem to the Cowboys Cowgirls, and, of course, the audience. There was certainly a ballsy approach to her upbringing as a small child as led her to take on bigger and bigger challenges as she’s grown. And those challenges are come often as she stepped into the country music world with a well received singles not pretty enough, and the foot stomping back to rodeo roots Cowgirls, whilst also forming a band and playing everywhere she can, is a live word really sharpens your tools and turns your talent into something that the world ultimately takes notice off. But don’t just think that this is a story but it’s about a hugely ambitious country started racing her way to the top. And she’s also trying her hardest to give back to the world with a cause. She’s hugely passionate with stopping bullying in childhood. She says when I started doing rodeo pageants, I received a lot of criticism and backlash from our kids. It was a difficult time. But thanks to the support I had with friends and family, I was able to overcome that time period. And if I could help just one person feel like they are not alone and that things will get better. But I would have accomplished what I set out to do. And with a tour of schools undertaken to speak about bullying, she’s taking action and inspiring youngsters for America to do things a different way. So what was it about growing up in such a rough and tumble environment that has helped her on her way to country stardom and can she remember how she felt on those early occasions standing on the rodeo stages and the spotlight turning in her direction? Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start join up dots with the one and only Josie Milner How are you Josie
Josey Milner [2:43]
i doing really good how are you?
David Ralph [2:45]
I am always good as I said before we started recording I I just I’m just good. I’m just good and it’s a set Sunday evening I’ve had a nice afternoon off and what could you want an evening with a country legend as Josie Milner
Josey Milner [3:02]
Well, thank you
David Ralph [3:05]
so are you in this sort of that the hub of it it’s because country music isn’t that well known over here? It’s getting that way but of course over in America you love in certainly in sort of deep south and and those kind of areas. So on sort of the level of people that we would know over here like kind of know Taylor Swift for example and and Dolly Parton and all those kind of things. Where would you set your thought out would you be more Taylor or would you be more Dolly
Josey Milner [3:37]
be more Dolly Isaac Triassic more the classic traditional country music. And then of course, the kind of newer pop country is really cool. But I’ve always just loved the traditional country music was actually for Christmas, I got a record player because I wanted to listen to all my old records. So I have so I definitely say I’m more of a dolly person,
David Ralph [3:55]
a proper record player that you actually put the needle on. And
Josey Milner [4:00]
yes, that exactly. Yeah, I’ve been wanting one for quite some time, because I’ve had a couple of records. But I’ve had just kind of stored in my room. I’ve never had a way to play them. And so I asked my parents for for Christmas. And that’s what I got. So I super excited. I’ve been listening to it almost ever since and it’s probably gonna be wore out by the time the years over, but it’s okay. I may
David Ralph [4:20]
sound better. I’m actually looking at the moment in my recording studio. I’ve got a record player. And I remember when I went to buy it, because I grew up in the time of vinyl. So you had vinyl everywhere. It wasn’t CDs, and all that kind of stuff. And I actually went in to the shop and I said I’d like to buy record player please. And I just looked at me blankly. And I said, you know records? No, no big black things with holes in the middle. Probably I’m losing all my listeners. Now. I’ve got no idea what I’m talking about. But did you think they sound better? Is it my age? Because I think just the dropping the needle in that little crack or before it starts add sort of atmosphere that you don’t get with CDs, do you?
Josey Milner [4:58]
Oh yeah. And I definitely think they sound better. As soon as I started listening to I was just like, Oh my gosh, this is so beautiful. And you know, because back then it was really hard to go in and kind of edit the voice so on the records all you hear is a real natural live raw voice of the of the artists that is singing and you know, of course the music gets behind it. And it’s just it’s all beautiful. It’s all real and I love it.
David Ralph [5:20]
Well, we love it as well. And I grew up actually my my father, he loves Country and Western music but he he likes the old guys like the the Hank snow and the Hank Williams and all those times. Now it’s in those days it was kind of divorce in dead dogs. That’s all a song about wasn’t it? But But now there’s a there’s a kind of different approach to it with different levels to the sort of music when you listen to it. Now, is it distinctly different? Are there traits that run through to that old classic stuff that I was talking about?
Josey Milner [5:52]
You know, I definitely think there’s still traits that run through the Country Music day, you know, every time you hear a song, you’re going to hear some sort of story behind it. And that’s just kind of a country music has always all been about. It’s just the stories that it can tell, no matter if it is about a dog or your truck or whatever. And, you know, that’s just something that’s kind of always stuck with it. And I know there’s definitely a lot of great country songs out there that people can really relate to like yeah, this is a really good song. So that’s what definitely I love most about country music. It’s just the stories they can tell them, how they can portray them and how beautiful they can make the melody go.
David Ralph [6:24]
So before we send you back in time as we’re going to to actually draw you through the join up dots timeline. What what would be the classic song if people are sitting out there, and they haven’t ever listened to country western music? What was the one that I should go for? What is the one that really ties it all together? Is there one?
Josey Milner [6:44]
Oh, goodness, there’s so many of them. You know, you’re talking about the walkin after midnight? That’s a chorus a really great song to listen to. Any Patsy Cline song really is an absolute amazing song. I’m crazy.
David Ralph [6:55]
I’m crazy. But that’s no, no, no.
Josey Milner [7:00]
Hey, let’s see. That’s an amazing song, though. And, you know, there’s just a lot of great ones. I don’t know if I honestly could pick just one. I think probably pretty iconic one would be he stopped loving her today by George Jones. I say that’s probably a pretty iconic one that a lot of people go and listen to and try to listen to classic classic country. So that might be that might be a possibility.
David Ralph [7:19]
Right? Well, we’re gonna play walking after midnight later, because that’s the song I want people to know. But if we go back in the introduction, we were saying but you started off very early. Were you actually earlier than that? Were you like I had in my imagination, holding the hairbrush belting out the songs in the bedroom, where you back kind of little girl?
Unknown Speaker [7:39]
Oh, yes, most of the hairbrush is the vacuum cleaner. Vacuum Cleaner was my mistake. I always grown up, we’ve always watched the musical Ward shows and I always go dress up my dress clothes and come out and pretend that I was accepting the award and I’d bring the vacuum cleaner out and I’d use my microphone and talk into it and say that I’m accepting the award. And thank you guys so much. I’d sing along with people on stage. So I’ve definitely always been a singer and I we used to go horseback riding and show writing and the use of shoved me in the front make me be the kind of the front horse. I could be everyone’s radio the whole time. So singing is definitely something I’ve always done. Something I’ve always incorporated into pretty much everything I did. So So when
David Ralph [8:20]
did you realize that you actually was talented? Because I’ve got daughters in my house. And I see. They all seem to have their iPads at the moment. And they all seem to be singing to each other. I don’t know why. So I walk into this room and I see these nine year old tune lyst girls, murdering the Beatles or murdering some kind of song. And by all think that they’re brilliant, but to be honest, they’re not even listening to the show. So it doesn’t matter but dreadful. That automatic dreadful. When did you realize that actually, you weren’t dreadful? And you could hold a tune? Was it really young? People say Oh, you’re good.
Josey Milner [8:57]
I’m really young. I mean, of course, always growing up and avoid seeing people like oh my gosh, you’re going to be someone huge someday, but I never really thought of it. And until like you were mentioning, I did rodeo and I would sing the national anthems at my rodeos. And I think that’s where stuff really kind of started to take shape. I started realize, Hey, I actually might have something here. And it’s actually back in 2010. Wow, at the country music or at the international superstar convention they had in St. Louis, Missouri, I was invited to sing at the National still guitar convention. And, you know, I had never really performed on a stage before I never really performed with a band before. So it’s a whole new experience for me. But I got up there and I loved it. And it was experience. I never wanted to let go of whatever I got done. I had so many people come up to me and say this, he really enjoyed the performance. And seen I think that’s kind of when stuff started saying hey, you know, he might want to pay attention here. So that’s actually kind of where stuff started for him to get my band together and start with a music career. So so so that’s
David Ralph [9:53]
a key point to your life at that moment. Because so many people get opportunities, they get offers to do something and got no, no, I’m not really a singer. I like singing in the car. And I like singing in the bath. But now I’m not going to get up in front of people. What made you take that risk to get up there? Obviously you loved it when he was up there, but you scared beforehand.
Josey Milner [10:14]
I really wasn’t in all honesty, I was actually really anxious and really excited about it. I really had no nerves going through me. I actually I want to get up there and I want to do it. And so I had nothing that was wanting to hold me back. I just wanted to go for it.
David Ralph [10:29]
So So while you You sounded awfully I start off because this is going to be an insult afterwards. But you do sound lovely. But when you have a precocious child were you one of those kind of you know those those starlet children that are quite annoying. Josie were you? Yeah, you know the ones where you like but
Josey Milner [10:49]
I like to think I wasn’t I never went around kind of showing off. I guess you could say I just I’d always kind of do to myself. And I know especially in the car, we listen to the radio be singing and everyone smile. My parents were like, hey, okay, Josie, just listen to the song. We don’t want to hear you. But no, I never really went around and bragged about it. I mean, if people asked me to sing that I would sing for him. But I want to just flat out do it just to do it. So I don’t think I was I hope I was it. But I don’t know.
David Ralph [11:16]
sort of frame how old you are at the moment. I understand. You’re 19 Is that what you’re still? 19?
Josey Milner [11:23]
I am Yeah, yes. I turned 20 in August, so yeah.
David Ralph [11:26]
Wow. Okay, so you’re 19 years old, and you are doing stuff which so many people would love to do, but for whatever reason. They haven’t given it a go or they haven’t had the opportunities. The million dollar question that is going to lead us on to the later part of the interview is have you created the opportunities? Or have they been lucky? Do you look back on it and go? Yeah, because I just happened to be there. This has happened to me, or have you gone out and knocked on doors and really made it happen?
Josey Milner [11:54]
You know, I think it’s been a little bit of both. I mean, whenever it came to sing the national anthems, I was always come some kind of something I volunteer to do if they didn’t have anyone. So that itself is I kind of had to do it. But then as far as being invited to the steel guitar convention, I never, I never had any kind of association with them. So they had to kind of reach out to me. So that was kind of very lucky opportunity, especially since it kind of set off everything. And so I made it throughout the whole throughout my whole career I’ve had so far there’s been a little bit of both. I mean, I’ve Of course, I’ve had to go and be like, hey, do you guys want me to be at your fair be at your venue or whatnot, and I can get it done. But then again, I’ve also had people be like, Hey, come here, we really want you to kind of thing so it’s gone both ways.
David Ralph [12:37]
I love that the fact that you you go out? Would you like me at the fair? It’s kind of like, it’s like outdoors karaoke, I suppose? Is it you you sort of you’re literally jumping up on stage, we have a series of songs you can do? And do they just had the backing tracks? Or do they have a band? How does that work?
Josey Milner [12:55]
I actually have my own band that I bring with me. Um, that’s I’ve had a band now for go going on roughly three years. And they go everywhere with me that I have performance. And there’s been a couple times where we’ve it’s been a really short sentence. I’ve been to a couple karaoke tracks, so I cannot stay in it. So
David Ralph [13:13]
what do you do? What’s the ones you do?
Josey Milner [13:16]
The ones I saying?
David Ralph [13:17]
Yeah, the karaoke ones. what’s the what’s the ones?
Josey Milner [13:21]
Um, well, I do log into midnight because we have that karaoke track. And then I also do my originals that I have released because we’re able to get them of course from the studio. And then they can go anywhere from a Miranda Lambert song to a Patsy Cline song to even some Keith Urban, and there’s a little bit of everything. We have quite a bit of a karaoke selection right now. Just whatever I feel like, dude, I was like, Okay, well put this on my iPod and bring it with me.
David Ralph [13:46]
And what if somebody says a song that you don’t like say somebody says to you, hey, Josie, Josie, I really like Justin Bieber, would you get up and do it?
Unknown Speaker [13:55]
Um, I am not had to do something like that yet. So I don’t know. Honestly, if my band knows if I know it, I’m probably gonna go ahead and do it.
David Ralph [14:03]
You see, we’re talking about Justin Bieber. Come on, come on, be honest with would you get up there and do it?
Josey Milner [14:10]
I don’t know. I just like I said, it just kind of depends if I know and if the band knows it, but if we could look something up that we might be able to, but if, if we both don’t know it, then probably not
David Ralph [14:24]
know. I saw. Yeah. That was your opportunity to bring the beaver down.
Josey Milner [14:31]
I mean, I don’t I don’t want to criticize them. Cuz I think he’s done some great things. But I definitely think he’s made some pretty important decision. So I mean, I think everyone’s kind of seen that lately. Anyways, so I don’t think I really need a status because people could see it for their own.
David Ralph [14:46]
So so what I’m gonna keep on this track, because it opens me up to a world hear me stuff. So with somebody like yourself, who’s 19 and they’re doing their thing, and they’re traveling around the world, and then you know, you yourself, and there must be a certain amount of naysayers that say to Josie, Josie, you’re never going to make it because that’s normal in the business. And then you’ve got the people that are going Josie Josie, Josie, Where has he gone wrong? Why do some people go wrong? And is it just too much success too early? Is it that they haven’t had to work and create their craft? Well, what’s what happens there? Do you think?
Josey Milner [15:26]
I think it could be an age thing, you know, I’m kind of growing up in the spotlight, I can see it being very rough, because you don’t have any kind of personal space. And everyone knows everything about you. And so you know, every time you do something wrong, everyone, the whole world knows about it. And so I think that definitely could have played a key role in it. But um, but then again, it could be just decisions that he made. I mean, of course, there’s things that he did that he could have said no to or they could be like, No, I’m not gonna go do that. So I think it could be a little both once again, but you know, it’s it’s their decision. That’s what they’re doing. So I, I can’t do much about it.
David Ralph [16:00]
calm. If only when somebody said you want to see a record, he said know what we could have nipped in the bud wherever we begin. Right? It would have never gone any further. Did you? Do you? Are you on a kind of route? Do you see people as ambitious as yourself with other talent? You see people when you go, Oh, wow. Wow, she’s really got it? Is there kind of an X factor that you see on the circuit? I do.
Josey Milner [16:25]
Yeah. You know, anytime I get to go out and see him perform, I always try to see like, you know, of course, the good side of like, yeah, they’re really good. I can’t sit there the whole time. Like, Oh, my gosh, I can’t see him this because let’s just let’s just not right, I mean, you gotta have support for them, because we’re trying to do the same thing as you. So you know, right now, it’s kind of it’s fairly hard to getting into go and watch some people because I am only 19. And over here, you can’t really go in anywhere until you’re 21 that has the good music should I say? So that’s been kind of a struggle. But anytime I have had a chance to be like, Oh, yeah, this is really good. I really like it. You know, anytime we get meet them or, you know, just kind of associate with it was really cool to accept another connection you get to make so you never know what connections are going to get you were so
David Ralph [17:07]
well that that’s the key thing in business isn’t. It’s the networks, your talent takes you so far. But it’s the networks that really exploded. And it can just be that one conversation that really takes you to opportunities, you just couldn’t believe I you naturally you sound lovely on the interview. But are you naturally good with meeting people one to one always a nervous thing? Don’t you come across you think?
Josey Milner [17:31]
No, I actually find that pretty easy for myself. I mean, if there’s someone standing there and I want to go talk to him, I can pretty much just walk up be like, Hey, how are you kind of thing. I don’t have anything that really, really holds me back from that. I think, from being in this career, I’ve actually gotten that kind of confidence from doing my music and you know, be able to just approach people about it. And it’s funny, because I remember, I didn’t take a public speaking class last semester in college, and everyone was kind of freaking out about it. And I was able to get up, they’re gonna start talking. And they’re like, how do you do that? How do you do that? It’s like, I’m used to it. I do this stuff all the time. So and like I said, the confidence that I’ve gained throughout my music career thus far, definitely helped really helps with that.
David Ralph [18:12]
But the thing about public speaking is not the public speaking, anybody can stand up there and talk, it’s actually having something worthwhile to say that that’s what sets people apart. And you have actually got a story you have and you went on when I was looking at it. I thought this this this is a film this is going to be made into a film.
Josey Milner [18:31]
you know, everything they’ll do so far throughout my life has been pretty amazing. And it’s kind of crazy to think how one event has led to another and everything to do has been pretty phenomenal and all the opportunities I’ve had and I’m just definitely very grateful for everything bill to accomplish so far and everything I’ve been it will do so.
David Ralph [18:51]
Have you seen that film talking about films? Have you seen that film country strong with Gwyneth Paltrow? I have I
Josey Milner [18:57]
have I actually went saw that movie in theaters when it came out.
David Ralph [19:00]
What did you think of it?
Josey Milner [19:03]
I thought it was potentially good. I think they might have made it drag on a
David Ralph [19:08]
little Josie Josie. I cried.
I was on an airplane and I cry Josie I’m open with you here. He touched me touch me beat the big, big lumps me for now. What did you know cry?
Josey Milner [19:23]
No, no. Well, that’s gonna make me sound really bad. But I don’t cry very often during movies. I’m the only one I really cried is the last movie I cried in. And But no, I mean, I thought the movie was really good. I just thought maybe it was a little too long, because they kept dragging stuff on when it got towards the end. But I think it was a really good movie all together just a little too long.
David Ralph [19:46]
Is it true? Because I sat there watching it? And obviously I’m not in your environment. So I thought this is how it is this this is it and you know it? Was it true to live? Or did you go out that’s just stupid, that would never happen.
Josey Milner [20:01]
I think a little a few things were a couple far fetched. And just like the show Nashville they have, you know, it’s a great show. But it’s really honestly not really how the country music industry is mean. There’s kind of small things they throw in there. That’s kind of realistic, but for the most part, that’s not how it is. I mean, of course everything is you know, getting to know everyone and getting to make connections and getting to work really hard at what you’re doing. It’s not just I don’t know, it’s not something that’s definitely very far fetched.
David Ralph [20:31]
What about Toy Story three, did you cry at the end of Toy Story three?
Josey Milner [20:36]
I did because I grew up in Pixar movies. Yes, I did cry on that one because it was very touching. So
David Ralph [20:44]
I was on a life support system Josie at the end of that. I was in a cinema with a load of five year olds. And I was thinking, Oh, please don’t put the lights up. Please don’t put the lights up. I was I was just gone. It was it was so. so upsetting. Started me off when they were getting sucked into the fire and I all started holding their hands. And then when Andy grew up and you had to give his toys away. Oh my god, I was literally as I say on a light support system.
Josey Milner [21:12]
I know that the end where he gave his toys away is what got me that made me pretty emotional. Age and I still have toys from my childhood. I don’t want to give away I was like I couldn’t do that. But I mean, if they really are alive and they only played with and I guess I can
Unknown Speaker [21:32]
keep up for now.
David Ralph [21:34]
As soon as you realize as soon as you close the door they get up and run around. That’s what happens. Yeah, it’s so true. It’s so true.
Josey Milner [21:44]
I think that might explain why sometimes they’re not in the same spot but I left
David Ralph [21:48]
there you go. So when you could do go home did you go home a lot or are you constantly on tours or moving around?
Josey Milner [21:56]
Oh no, I’m pretty much at home. quite frequent. I mean the shows we’ve done so far haven’t really been to I’ve had to be gone a whole lot. I mean, we might we might have to be gone for a weekend but for the most part that’s pretty much it right now. It’s uh I mean, I think Nashville is probably the longest I’ve been gone we’re going up there for about a week and that’s not the longest I’ve been away from home but for the most part I’m I’m here
David Ralph [22:22]
Did you go into cheese bar on the Broadway in Nashville?
Josey Milner [22:26]
I did I even signed my name on one their tables in there.
David Ralph [22:29]
That is my favorite bar on Earth. I think that is the most amazing bar.
Josey Milner [22:34]
It is super cool. Yeah, we go to Nashville quite a you know as often as we can. And actually my favorite store down down there is the earnest have record shop shocker, right. And just to go in there and I’ve actually been performing that record shop before. And I was super exciting and because it has a lot of history behind it and and all the music that they have in it. So that’s my favorite one down there.
David Ralph [22:55]
But I’m going to stop the interview just for a moment. And I’m going to play a motivational speaker, but we normally throw in round about this time. And it’s some words it’s Jim Carrey said recently and it really says something about yourself, Josie, somebody who’s really going out there and doing something. This is Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey [23:12]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [23:39]
What do you think in those words, are they true to you? Because they seem to be?
Josey Milner [23:43]
Oh, definitely. You know, I right now, I never want to do anything else what I’m doing right now. And I’m definitely taking a huge risk because the country music industry is so unpredictable me You never know what’s going to happen tomorrow. And and so right now I’m I’m very happy with how things are going. But like I said, you never know what can happen. So I’m definitely taking a huge risk and a huge chance on what I love and what I want to do. But
David Ralph [24:08]
so what makes you want to do that. So all the people out there they’ve been queue because they’re driving to work. They’re on trains, doing these kind of crappy jobs that they just don’t like, but they put up with it. They put up with it day after day after day, until Fridays when they go out and have a few drinks in the pub or the bar. And they moan about what they’ve had to endure for five days. Could you see yourself ever doing that? Could you be somebody that goes into the office and walks to the photocopier and back 20 times a day? Or is this really your thing?
Josey Milner [24:41]
Oh, no, this is really my thing. I could not I cannot go to work every day and do something like that. That’s actually something I’ve always told myself is I’m never going to grow up and work in a cubicle because I could just not handle it. That was That stuff is something that I would never enjoy. And you know, right now with my music, if it never gets, of course, like the spotlight area, or wherever I’m touring internationally and have these thousands of sold out shows, and I still think I’m gonna be perfectly content with it. Because as long as I get to perform as long as I get a just kind of show my talent and show music and make people happy, then I’ll be good. So I think no matter what, I’m always gonna have music with me.
David Ralph [25:20]
Yeah, but what you could do, you could lift up the lid to the photocopier that could be like a spotlight and you could burst into song in in all the offices and scan your face at the same time and buy an autograph it and just leave it around the office.
Josey Milner [25:39]
People will be like, yep, remember me
David Ralph [25:42]
up in star in whatever office you are that that’d be perfect.
Josey Milner [25:46]
That is so funny. So So
David Ralph [25:50]
where do you get your hustle vape. Because as you say, You can’t imagine working in an office. But so many people and the bulk of the listeners want something. I have dreams, I have aspirations, but there’s just something holding them back. So where did your hustle come from it? Will your mom and dad like you? Are you sort of rare breed your brothers and sisters who were like it. I,
Josey Milner [26:13]
you know, I definitely think I’ve grown up in a family that has always tried to go after what they really want it and I definitely had a lot of support. And a lot of people just kind of backing me up on no matter what I wanted to do. So I think that it’s definitely helped me a lot. I mean, of course, there’s people that don’t necessarily have them have the family that is supporting them or doesn’t want them to do what they’re wanting to do. And so they don’t want to disappoint them. So they go and kind of do they feel their family was going to do but I mean, you need to just go do what makes you happy, because you’re the only one that matters at that point in time. And because if you’re not happy, then it’s going to be miserable, you’re not going to have any kind of anything that’s going to make you want to really, I guess, achieve a whole lot. And, and so I know that my music makes me really happy. And I think my parents see that. So they’ve always supported me with it. And they said, we know that that’s really what you want to do. So we’re going to support you with that. So you know, you just got to be happy with what you do. And if you’re not happy, then you’ve got to change it. Because you’re the only one that can change it.
David Ralph [27:06]
Well, you absolutely it’s all down to you. And no matter who lives out in the world, whatever they’re doing, ultimately, it’s down to their actions. Nobody really lives a life that is given to them, they take the right choices, they take the wrong choices. But there is a deep rooted problem across the world. And you must see it when you go back into schools that the kids don’t quite believe, which is why so aspirational for you to go back in because I can see somebody who’s not that far away in age to them. And he’s getting out there and doing stuff. But do you see that when you go back to school? Because I certainly see, kids don’t really believe that they can have the life I want. It’s almost like they’ve got to accept responsibility and just get a job start growing up.
Josey Milner [27:49]
Yeah, I definitely do see that. And you know, especially in high school, I saw that quite frequently. I remember there’s a couple of students are my grade, that they didn’t really have any kind of aspirations, high school, they just wanted to get there. Of course, they may say their GED and just kind of go into something that would give them money, and they weren’t really caring didn’t care if it made them happy. They just wanted to do it. And as you know, it seems I’m like that, that’s kind of what makes me want to push harder, because I you know, I just I want to be able to make myself happy and to know that a whole bunch of other people are unable to do that for themselves. It just pushes me harder to do it. So it’s very sad that people can’t find their own inspiration or that people can’t, you know, I guess kind of persuade themselves to do better things. But you know, it’s it’s not maybe not everyone is able to handle it. I guess.
David Ralph [28:36]
I think everyone can bow i think if i The trouble is I think that so many people have got to a point of comfort, where they’re earning enough money to pay the bills or earning enough money to do something with and it’s almost like if we if we took it all away from them and said, Why Okay, you’ve got nothing now go out and do it. People would would hustle people would make things happen, they will phone people up and connect with people and do all that kind of stuff. Is the comfort is that monthly salary that check, which is the dream killer? I think what you reckon?
Josey Milner [29:11]
I agree, you know, money is kind of a
it’s a scary deal. I know, it’s something that definitely has a lot of control over people. So you know, as long as I guess they’re able to make that the income to help them live, I guess somewhat happy, then they’re able to handle it are able to deal with it. But why not go out there and try to do even more try to be the more successful with it. Why just stick with your standard, whatever you’re doing when you go out and try to do more, but I don’t know.
David Ralph [29:42]
I think really the problem is it’s lack of belief. And I think there’s a generation and it’s probably multi generation. And this is why you’ve got such a gift that your mom and dad could upset. Hang on Josie, your daughter, I don’t want you traipsing around America, and I imagine your and is predominantly male as well. All right. Oh, yeah. Yep. Okay, so so some mums and dads might have gone Hang on, I don’t want you traipsing around in a van with a load of men. But they they’ve supported you to take that chance and go for it. But other people will kind of say to their kids, no, you’re never going to be that good. You’re never going to be that person, what you need to do is grow up my lad, you’ve you’ve got to just go out and take your responsibilities and get a job and natural life, because that’s what they were told to do. But have a mom and dad and that’s what they were told to do beforehand. But we’ve got a world now that you have got opportunities and proven internet, you can create income, you can create opportunities that you couldn’t have had before. And with yourself, you’re creating something that has got far more momentum and probably will say Dolly Parton again and Tammy Wynette at because I didn’t have the chance to promote themselves on YouTube and Instagram and Facebook and all those kind of things, I had to go out there and, and just do the show, I’m working up slowly. So the world has got opportunities, and they’ve got to wake up to realize that they’ve got a chance of doing something, but no one can stop them doing I’m getting very ranting here, Josie, but it’s down to them, it’s down to them. And they need to do it in their lunch times in the afternoons and and whatever, they just need to do it. Or as I used to do Josie do it when the boss wasn’t looking. I used to I used to secretly do stuff for probably a year I’ve left now, so I can’t do anything about it. But um, yeah, so I used to do it at work. And as soon as the boss used to turn up, I was back at work. But um, yeah, you can do it wherever you want. I don’t know, I don’t justify that approach. But you can make it happen if you want to.
Josey Milner [31:42]
You definitely and you know, and that’s so unfair for parents out there that are kind of holding their kids back, let them let them go out and do what they want to do. Let them be who they want to be able to accomplish all their goals they want to accomplish, you know, support them and be there for them and say, Hey, I believe in you. I know you can do amazing things. So and yeah, you know, it’s social media and the internet itself has made such a huge, huge impact on the music industry itself. And as far as promotion as far as far as be able to keep connected with fans and you know, getting your music out there. And it definitely has made things a lot more capable. I guess you could say, it’s definitely made things a lot more easier.
David Ralph [32:21]
Did you struggle with your image, obviously a very pretty lady. But did you? Is it difficult to not just say to people, look at me just listen to the music, because the image has to work with the music and the music has to work with the image. So what did you focus in on first? Was it music first, and then you kind of created your own image around it?
Josey Milner [32:41]
I probably say so. You know, I? Ever since I’ve been in the music industry, I’ve always had people kind of compare me to say, Miranda Lambert and Carrie Underwood and yeah, them are phenomenal artists and amazing artists.
Filter. Oh yeah, she was good.
Yeah, you know, being compared to them. Sure. It’s really nice. It’s very humbling. It’s very humbling be compared to them. But I want to be Josie Milner, I want to be my own artists and to know I’ve kind of had to go out there and kind of make my own style and you know, just kind of represent myself I definitely think that came after I started with the music. And I think over time I’ve kind of even progressed that style. You know, I know when I first started I was kind of more of the I guess say like a southern belle the sweet the sweet little country girl with the boot some of the dresses and everything. And today I am more of the kind of the more hard rocker with the jeans and you know, kind of the heeled boots and stuff. So even my setup has progressed so
David Ralph [33:42]
so so do you look back at those photos, even though it was only a few years ago? And you go Oh, god, what was I doing? Because he’s out in the public? Isn’t a your pictures of bear forever? You can’t hide away from them?
Josey Milner [33:54]
Oh, yeah, I did the all time especially kind of under my first press pictures that we ever went into it. And I go back and look Adams like, Oh my gosh, I was like, I’m like, five years old. And you know, I’ll be looking at my mom come back, like what are you looking at? Like, oh, my own press pictures? Like, Oh, you were so sweet back then. You look so sweet. And everything else. Like I missed that little girls like, gee, Mom, they appreciate it. And we kind of joke about them all the time. But, you know, I of course, things are going to change as you get older. I definitely have really noticed LeBron since you know, I’m out of high school. Now I’m in college and you know, things are changing and my musics progressing. And so it’s definitely been a lot of changes ever since the beginning of it. But they’ve been good changes. And they’ve been changes that have been able to kind of represent myself.
David Ralph [34:38]
Well, I’m going to play a speech that Oprah Winfrey said, and it ties up with not knowing your path and just taking the next step because I’m fascinated how you decided what to do right at the very beginning. Because when you’ve got a dream and you’re looking towards something, sometimes it’s just too big to get going on. This is Oprah Winfrey
Oprah Winfrey [34:57]
the way through the challenge is to get still ask yourself, what is the next right move? not think about, Oh, I got all of this stuff. What is the next right move. And then from that space, make the next right move, and the next right move, and not to be overwhelmed by it. Because you know, your life is bigger than that one moment, you know, you’re not defined by what somebody says, is a failure for you. Because failure is just there to point you in a different direction.
David Ralph [35:29]
But that’s the first time I’ve ever heard that speech with a dog in the background. So he’s obviously in your in your home, you got a dog. I do.
Josey Milner [35:36]
It’s a Pembroke Corgi and he likes to bark. My parents are actually in the other room. We’re trying to make them keep them quiet. It’s like get through this. But apparently that went down. But
David Ralph [35:49]
it was a delight to have him there. So listening to those words, when you when you first set your mom and your dad or whatever, I want to do this. For all the listeners out there that got similar vibes of trying to go into the music industry. How did you do it? What was your first step? like Oprah say, did you go oh, my God, I want to do this, but I don’t know how to do it? Or did you work on a plan?
Josey Milner [36:15]
We worked on a plan and we jumped into it, there was definitely no hesitation to and it’s kind of funny because I’ve never really had anyone my family’s ever been interested in music like I have. And everyone else is pretty much grown up playing sports and being active. And that’s not me at all. I’ve always enjoyed music over any kind of physical activity. And so it’s really it’s really strange. But you know, jumping into it is definitely kind of difficult for us, considering we had no clue what to do. But fortunately, we were able to meet some really great people who were able to answer our questions kind of helped us and guide us along the right way. And that’s something I have been very fortunate throughout his career, just be able to meet the right people who have given us great advice. And I’ve never tried to steer us in the wrong direction. And, you know, it was pretty crazy the first year, but the first year, definitely made a whole bunch of impact on it. And we’ve learned so much ever since beginning this career, we’ve been able to gain a lot of friendships and gain a lot of connections. And you know, a lot of opportunities have been opened up because of that. And we just we had to go for there. Like I said, there’s no hesitation for and we just we went for it. Why?
David Ralph [37:20]
Why did you go for it so much. The fact that you, you were quite open, you didn’t have a clue. It’s something you want to do. But you didn’t have a clue. That’s a game stopper, isn’t it? When you think I’ve got no idea, I’ve got no idea where to do this. But you you went for it. So why did you feel so passionate?
Josey Milner [37:37]
I just I just kind of felt like is the right place for me to be in this kind of where I was meant to be, you know, especially after having that experience with the National still good target venture meal perform on stage. And just kind of the feeling I got from it and knowing how excited I was about it and how much I enjoyed it. And like I said, I never want to let go the experience. So knowing that and having that in the back of my mind is really what pushed me be like, hey, you can do this, you can you’ve already got your foot in the door, you just got to keep going with it. And I don’t know if I was really scared. I think it’s more anxious. Honestly, I just wanted to want to be able to go and see what I could do what I could accomplish. And I never really have any kind of doubts in my mind. I never really I never really doubted myself. I’ve always believed in myself ever since ever since I got into it. And I think that’s definitely one thing that’s helped me get this far is how much I believed in myself and how I haven’t let anyone kind of push me down or kind of run me over on it. I’ve always stood strong in this. I’ve always known I’ve wanted I’ve always gone after what I’ve wanted. So what what what about
David Ralph [38:39]
your peer group growing up, this is a truth as well, when you got dreams and aspirations that are different from the norm. So you are growing up in Missouri, you’re hanging around the rodeo stadiums, and you’re getting up and singing the song. And then you say to your friends I tell you what I want to do I want a winner own world at Nashville. I want to be a country legend. I want to be out there more often but not people will go yeah Josie Go on then you that that’s that’s never gonna happen because they they don’t believe in themselves. So they don’t believe how you can be so different from them and actually do is did you experience that? Did you experience the kind of nice saw your peer group when he was younger?
Josey Milner [39:21]
Oh, I definitely did. And I think in high school was probably the worst of it. Because you know, I’d have I remember I had friends and beginning of high school. And by the time I graduated, I hadn’t really spoken to them for the past couple years. And I think it was because of music. And you know, once things started going for me, I had some people come up to me like, wow, you’re doing this, you’re doing that. But then I also have people like walking down the hallway to look at me like you’re crazy, or you’re never going to do anything or how dare you even try or, you know, just stuff like that. And it was pretty frustrating there for a while, but I was able to push through it. And you know, here I am today. So
David Ralph [39:56]
well you are and you have a singer of my favorite song of the week, which I’m going to play now. We’re not going to play all of it because obviously listeners you will have a brain blister and you will be you will be unable to sleep for about four days. This is Josie Milner walking after midnight.
I had a note to chew it with you there Josie Did you know that I felt were you tapping your feet? Is that does that get you going even though it’s your own song?
Josey Milner [41:40]
It does. And honestly, I do not like listening to myself. If it’s on a CD or been on the radio. I do not like listening. So I will change it I will turn down or whatever. But that’s like the only song I don’t you should sit there and listen to the whole thing. And it’s really funny because I actually recorded that song. It’s one of the first ones I ever did. And I think it was about 15 whenever record that one. And so from hearing it then and to wherever and now I go and perform it. There’s such a difference, but it’s still one of my favorite song. So yeah.
David Ralph [42:09]
And I was walking after me say it’s in your head, isn’t it?
Josey Milner [42:14]
It is it gets in your head. Yes.
David Ralph [42:16]
So did you want it about yourself? Or did you co write with people.
Josey Milner [42:20]
I actually that song itself I did not write that one that was actually a Patsy Cline song. It’s one of the songs that she released whenever she was doing her country music career. As far as writing though, we are in the songwriting process, we were actually working on the EP right now. And the last song on my EP is going to be written by me my producer. So I’m super excited about it. Because songwriting is something that I’m very new to and sort of kind of start and do it. I’m really excited.
David Ralph [42:47]
I’ll give you the first line or a line for the song. See if you can get this in. There’s a sexy podcaster from the UK. See if you can slide back in somewhere. The UK is good. He goes anywhere you can go away, you can go stay and it’s brilliant.
Josey Milner [43:06]
I will see what I can do.
David Ralph [43:08]
And I’ll be sitting here going that’s about me. That’s about me, me and Josie were like, man,
Josey Milner [43:15]
we’re so close.
David Ralph [43:17]
So close. So So do you do like that creative part of writing? Did you always struggle? Do you sit there and go? Yes, we’re gonna write a song today or do you go Oh, God, we’re gonna have to write another song.
Josey Milner [43:31]
Second one, definitely. But I get pretty scared when it comes to that. And you know, my mom has always been kind of the one that says I know you can be a good songwriter, because I know you can write good and I’ve always been the one like, Oh, I don’t think I could do it. I don’t know what I’m gonna do. It’s definitely, definitely kind of start to struggle and freak out when it comes to songwriting. But the rest of it, I’m fine.
David Ralph [43:54]
And how did you write the song? Do you go with the words first and bend the tune? Or do you do the tune and the words?
Josey Milner [44:02]
I do I normally do the words first. Because I think a good country song definitely starts with words. I mean, you can always write a good song to come in and make the music to make it better. So I think every good song starts with the words.
David Ralph [44:13]
And the key thing to a song I suppose. And I heard Paul McCartney saying this recently, he said, I can write a song easily. But it’s translating it from my little voice to my big voice. So taking it from there kind of almost whispering because you’re in a room with just one person to belting it out in front of a crowd. Do you find that easy? Or when you’re writing? Do you go for the big voice straightaway?
Josey Milner [44:37]
Oh, definitely little voice. I think it’s almost intimidating to myself to actually try to try to sing the song when writing it. So definitely, it’s just a little boys kind of get the little melody going. And then when you go and record it, thanks. When the whole the whole process comes out?
David Ralph [44:53]
And do you know when you got a good? Are you sort of like halfway through and you are this is good or is it only when you start mixing it and putting it all together?
Josey Milner [45:01]
I say we start mixing it and pulling it all together and be able to actually have music background and make it sound good because you know you can write amazing lyrics but then you also have to have the good music behind it. So if you can’t find that certain melody to go behind it then it’s not a very good song but if you’re able to accomplish and have good lyrics and a good melody that’s obviously a good song.
David Ralph [45:22]
He drove really fast. He no one went faster. I think he is a sexy UK podcaster What about that? Two lines It was about a podcast on a motorbike that’s brilliant in it but Country and Western music.
Josey Milner [45:36]
It’s brilliant. I agree.
David Ralph [45:39]
To do people still call it Country and Western or am I being old school there they do to people just call it country now.
Josey Milner [45:46]
Oh, I mean, people still call my both amazing. There’s some people that will stick to your traditional Oh, it’s just country music with them. Some people will say that’s country western. So you’re not you’re not old fashioned. Not yet.
David Ralph [45:55]
Now you say you say Josie we’ve connected now you’re being nice to me, you’re being nice to me. So so the older people because I was very impressed by not only your ability to translate your music and your passion into the into the music world. But the fact that at quite a young age, you want to give back and you’ve been doing a tour schools to speak about bullying. And it was very poignant. In the introduction, as you were saying, when I started doing rodeo pageants, I received a lot of criticism and backlash from other kids. Why? Why did they do that? With your experience? Now looking back? Can you understand why they did that? Or do you still not go? No, that was just wrong.
Josey Milner [46:34]
I still go that was wrong. You know, I’ve always had a strong belief and not bullying people. I mean, everyone wants Camille to do something that makes them happy. And they shouldn’t be criticized for it. And I don’t know if they just want to do what I was doing. So they’re mad that they couldn’t or the math. They weren’t doing it or I honestly, I have no clue what was happening. And it was kind of a bummer. Because I mean, of course, I’d be really proud to be able to accomplish what I was doing or say, winning rodeo pageant title. And I’d be so excited about it. And I’m going to talk about it and whatnot like, Oh, I don’t care, that’s, that’s not that big of a deal. Like, well, it’s a big deal to me. And so you know, not having that support was really a huge bummer. But, you know, I just also had a look at myself, like, you know, what you do what you want to do, and you are happy about it, and you accomplish what you want to do. So that’s all that matters kind of thing.
David Ralph [47:23]
And with the sort of anti bullying stance that you’re you’re taking and you’re going into schools, is there an undercurrent back, because when I when I was at school, it was pretty much you would get bullied unless you stood up yourself. And if you stood up for yourself, then you could pretty much safely go through I had one fight in my life. And that was against the school bully. But I just decided, right, this was my moment. And unless I smacked him in the mouth, which I don’t condone at all. But I was going to be bullied all the way through school. So I smacked him in the mouth and then ran. And that was it. Basically, I was all right. And it was it was unfortunate. I was 17. And she was a five year old girl who was bullying me now she wasn’t really, but did you see but is there still back, sort of, you’ve got to stand up and you’ve got to basically take a chance at school, otherwise, you’re not going to survive like it was when I was at school.
Josey Milner [48:17]
And I think that plays an element into it and you know, be able to stand up for yourself and be able to kind of like, hey, you’re not going to do this, to me definitely really adds to it and helps you out a lot. And that’s kind of how I always was I never let people try to push me down. I’ve all I’ve always stood strong in my stances, and you know what I want to do, and I never let anyone try to push me over with it. So that’s something about we’ve been fortunate to have been able to, I guess, abstain, you know, you know, there are some people that really, they just don’t know what to do about it, they don’t know how to sign up for themselves. And if that’s the case, you can at least go tell someone about it. So So can step in handles kind of situation, so doesn’t happen. And, you know, there’s all sorts of kinds of people in this world, and no one should be criticized or no one should be picked on because of how they are. So, you know, you just you gotta find a way for the solution, you got to find a solution for it. And you gotta just stand up for yourself and just get into it. Like I said, If you can’t, then you got to find someone who’s come out come and step up for you. So you don’t have to have that kind of problem.
David Ralph [49:16]
Because it is difficult, isn’t it, because when you’re going through school, if you stand up for yourself, you’ve got to be brave. And if you don’t, you’re going to get picked on. And it you fall into that category of either a rough person or a soft person. And you have to sort of go through and some people survived because they’re very good at sports. Other people survived because they’re very good at music or whatever. But there is that kind of group, but don’t fall into any camps. And so they just picked on all the time.
Josey Milner [49:44]
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And, you know, like I said, it’s super frustrating to see someone be picked on because of what they like to do, or, or because of how they are, how they dress or what their interests are. And, you know, anytime I’ve ever seen something like that, I’ve always stepped up like, hey, this isn’t, but right now, you’re not going to do this in front of me, let alone you should be doing it all kind of thing. And you know, and it definitely, if you’re that person that they will step in, you know, kind of seeing it for that person, they’re always going to thank you for that. Because that’s an experience, a dreadful experience that they’re never going to have to go through. If you are able to step up and resolve the situation right then in there. And something that I always appreciate and something always remember and look back on. So you can you can step up and you can change someone’s life, you can make a huge impact on someone’s life, if you’re able to step up and try to make a difference with it.
David Ralph [50:29]
Absolutely. And now step up and say, oh, wait buster, I’m going to sing walking after midnight, and you won’t be able to sleep for six weeks. That that will be our anti bully stance, get get them tossing and turning without children going around their head night after night after night. That’s what that’s what we’re going to do. So just before I play the theme of the show, which is the Steve Jobs speech that he made back in 2005, do you look back at things like but the sort of the bullying that you’ve got through the pageants, a way of actually toughen you up to where you are. Now, because you’re in a situation that is pretty rough. You know, you’re going to be taking knocks on a daily basis, and you’re going to be putting yourself in a position where you’re standing up on stage. And they either love you or hate you. Or sometimes they’re just dismissive or whatever. So you’re going to be pretty tough skin. Do you look back on that? And go, actually, I wish I hadn’t gone through it. But yeah, that that was pretty good. That’s my that sharpened me up a bit.
Josey Milner [51:26]
I definitely would say so. You know, I think every kind of criticism I’ve had so far has definitely kind of boosted me up and gave me that extra push that I needed to get through that situation to push through and what I was doing. And I mean, I think no matter who you are, you’re always going to have someone throughout your life is going to try to tear you down and try to tell you that what you’re doing isn’t worth your time. And like I’ve said, you just you can’t listen to them. You just gotta go through that you got to follow through on it, and you can’t let them get to you. So you know, in the end, you’re going to be very happy about it, you’re going to be like, you know what, look what I did, and he told me I couldn’t come easily, it’s gonna be a very satisfactory moment. You’re like, hey, look at me kind of thing. So, yeah,
David Ralph [52:05]
it makes you who you are, doesn’t it?
Josey Milner [52:08]
David Ralph [52:09]
Well, this is words of the show. And this is why we called it join up dots and this is a speech that Steve Jobs made back in 2005. And it’s very, very relevant to all of us. But I’m going to say tonight, it’s relevant to Josie Milner. This is Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs [52:22]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [52:57]
So even at your tender years of knowing to do you look at those words, or listen to those words. And being Yeah, I can actually connect my dots, I can join up dots I can see how I got to where I am now.
Josey Milner [53:09]
Definitely. And that’s very funny that you actually play that speech. So I actually listened that one before several times at that. And, you know, I think that’s definitely you know, you look back, you look on your past and everything melons do and everything has lead you up to the point you are now and you can either go Wow, that’s awesome, or Wow, what is going on kind of thing. And for me, it’s definitely been Wow, this is pretty amazing. And you know, every time I get a chance to look back, especially with my music and everything I’m able to accomplish for all the people ability meet, or all the venues I’ve been in to perform it and all the people I’ve been able to open up for it’s it’s extremely amazing. And I never would have thought whenever I was younger that ever had a career like this and be able to have the experiences bill to have. And I definitely been truly blessed with everything about to to do so far. And definitely all the accomplishments I’m able to have. It’s it’s pretty awesome.
David Ralph [53:58]
Oh, I think he’s pretty good. Amen. And one of the questions I always ask leading from that speech is, do you have a big.in your life that when you look back, you kind of go? Yeah, fact that I think that was the moment when Josie Milner started making a movie. That was my big Doc, do you have one of those?
Josey Milner [54:16]
Yeah, I actually, I think it would be in the national superstar convention, I think that some stuff really kind of kicked me into gear. And I really started to realize that I need to kind of started working on my future right then in there. And that’s whenever I started working with it. And so I definitely think that’s probably been the biggest influence I’ve had with my music so far. And with kind of getting it into gear and getting it to where I wanted to go with it. So
David Ralph [54:39]
I love your passion. I love your enthusiasm, I think that you are on your way. And I’m a middle aged man, and I don’t listen to a lot of your music, I’ll be honest. But I’m I know when it’s good. And I know what I like. And I certainly like what you’re delivering. So I’m sure that you’re going to go on to great stuff. And we’re gonna hear more from Josie Milner. But we’re going to hear more from her now because this is the end of the show Josie and this is when I’m going to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the younger Josie, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give? Well, I’m going to play the theme and when it fades you up. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [55:22]
Here we go with the best
Unknown Speaker [55:32]
Josey Milner [55:40]
All right. Well, hello, little Josie, you are probably about 1112 years old, and you’re doing rodeo pretty heavily right now. And you have started singing and he really started to realize what you’re wanting to do. And while it rodeo, you’re starting to realize that it can get pretty frustrating. And that stuff can really get in the way Mickey I’m just kind of fall down and cry. And I know things are really hard. I know you have to deal with a lot of things growing up. But you know, look where you are now and you’re going to be able to accomplish so many amazing things when you get older. And you know, you just you got to stand up and you got to be strong and you got to be able to believe in yourself and know that you’re going to do amazing things and you know, work hard and respect people and appreciate everything they’ll to have and you’ll be able to some pretty awesome stuff. I promise I’ve been there before.
David Ralph [56:27]
Josie How can our audience connect with you?
Josey Milner [56:30]
Yes, um, well, if you like to follow me my career, you can go to my website www Josie Milner music.com j o s e, why am i l any our music.com You can also find me on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, reverb nation, and you know, just kind of all that fun stuff. And I’m always posting and trying to keep people updated with my music. And you can also find my music on iTunes. So definitely go check that out. And in March, I will actually be coming out with a new song. So look up for that. And actually tomorrow Monday, I’ll be going to St. Louis because I have a private audition for the America’s Got Talent TV show over here. So we’ll see how that goes. He might be able to see me on TV sometime. But we’ll see.
David Ralph [57:14]
Good luck on that. And I think the single is called red, white and blue. Is it? Yes, it is. Yes. Coming out on the 30th of March.
Josey Milner [57:22]
It is yes.
David Ralph [57:23]
Yes. You see Josie I’m a fan. I’m a fan. I know it already. Well, thank you so much for spending time with us today joining those dots and please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures Josie Milner Thank you so much.
Josey Milner [57:40]
And thank you so much definitely really appreciate it
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