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Introducing Dr Wayne Pickering
Todays guest is one of the people that has set his stall out to look good feel good and help the world look good too.
I hope he doesn’t mind me saying this but he is around seventy years old and has the most amazing body I have seen a man of his age having.
He knows what works for him to keep him at peak performance, and most importantly he knows what is the perfect fuel to put in himself to fire on all cylinders.
His purpose is to teach people how to be the healthiest person ON the planet and not the wealthiest person IN the grave, and does this by using nine easy steps that focus on nutrition, which are centered around his basic philosophy: “If you want to be tough, you’ve got to eat good stuff!”
He’s the founder of the Center for Nutrition & Life Management, Inc., based in Daytona Beach Florida, and is dubbed ‘The Mango Man’ because of his passion for eating fresh vegetables and seasonal fruits, like mangoes.
How The Dots Joined Up For Dr Wayne
As he says, “We can learn to choose foods wisely so that nutrition can help the body build and repair itself more effectively.”
He’s convinced that we are all healthy automatically by design and sick only by default.
So living in the worlds centre of fast food, and processed sustenance, how does he manage to dodge the Burger Kings, and KFC’s when they are all around him and live a life true to himself?
And are there quick ways that we can get to the core of what we should be eating, without going through a series of trials and errors?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Dr Wayne “The Mango Man” Pickering.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Dr Wayne Pickering such as:
How there are five things in life that you cannot buy, and the only one you can never get back is time.
How he made the worst sale he could have possibly ever do, when he sold an oil rich field worth millions for only $1,800.00
How he ended up being called the Mango Man, and having a fruit named after him after a freak series of events.
Why the worst thing you can do in life is tell others what you most want to do in life, as they are always DOWN ON what they’re not UP ON.
He shares probably the most important series of exercises ever heard on Join Up Dots, which can show you your life path in six days.
How To Connect With Dr Wayne “The Mango Man” Pickering
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Full Transcription Of Dr Wayne Pickering Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, good morning to you or wherever you’re listening to Join Up Dots. Welcome to another show. This is Episode 302. And it’s one of those episodes actually bad. Before I started my own personal journey into the entrepreneurial world. I wouldn’t have considered too much about what I was putting into my body, the fuel that got me going, but if you’ve heard any of the shows and certainly in the sort of the mid ground, you would have heard me moan a little bit about feeling like I was falling to pieces because of the effort I was putting into it. Now. Today’s guest is going to Help us on that. And he knows the right things to eat, to give us that to get on and tackle the world because he’s one of those people that has set he stood out to look good, feel good. And as I say, help the world look good, too. Now, I hope he doesn’t mind me saying this, but he’s about 70 years old, and he has the most amazing body up saying of a man he’s aid. He knows what works for him to keep him at peak performance. And most importantly, he knows what is the perfect fuel to put him in self to fire on all cylinders. His purpose is to teach people how to be the healthiest person on the planet and not the wealthiest person in the grave and does this by using nine easy steps that focus on nutrition, which is centred around his basic philosophy. If you want to be tough, you got to eat good stuff. Now he’s the founder of the Centre for nutrition and life management based in Daytona Beach, Florida. And he’s dubbed the mango man because of his passion for eating fresh vegetables and seasonal fruits like mangoes as he says, we can learn to choose foods wisely. So that nutrient can help the body build and repair itself more effectively. He’s convinced that we are all healthy automatically by design and sick only by default. So living in America and a wealth centre a fast food and process sustenance, how does he manage to dodge the Burger Kings and KFC is when it all around him and live a life true to himself, and on a quick ways that we can get to the core of what we should be eating without going through a series of trials and errors. Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up does with the one and only Dr Wayne Pickering of a mango man, Pickering. How are you Dr Wayne Pickering ?
Dr Wayne Pickering [2:34]
I’m excellent really. And you know, and every day I feel like I’m improving. And that that theme of getting older and better, David, and not old and bitter is a focus that I had been dwelling on here for quite some time now. And one of the things that I was very excited about when we decided we were going to work together on this show was all of the things that you’re bringing to the table is so remarkable to make a positive difference in people’s lives. Now what we want to do is to show them how to get older and better and not old and bitter. And I’m finding that too many people say this. Well, that good food, that good organic food that’s too expensive. I should No, no, no, it’s not really, here’s what’s expensive, being sick. So in conclusion to that I wrote a little poem one time, I should never give up your health, in your quest for wealth, because you got to spend all the wealth to regain your health. And then what happens when you die? Your brother in law gets to drive your car. Now that’s not very good.
David Ralph [3:42]
But he’s a key point to it, isn’t it? But it’s something that people really forget. And I must admit, I’m the world’s worst. If I’m in the zone, and I’m working, I can go hours, and then I think to myself, I haven’t had anything to eat at all today. No wonder I’m flagging a bit and I think People in the entrepreneurial spirit where they’re driven to create their own environment quite often forget that they need to create themselves, don’t they?
Dr Wayne Pickering [4:09]
Oh, yes. Well, here’s a here’s a good lesson that I’ve learned one time and we have a programme on one of our websites, which we would talk about a little bit later is called having the time of your life. There are five things, David, that we will never buy in our lives five things. We will never buy our friends, true friends, you will never buy your spirituality. You will never buy your integrity. You will never buy your health and you’ll never buy your time. Now you can get your health back and you can get your integrity back. It takes you years to build and seconds to destroy and it takes a long time to get it back and you can get some friends back and you can get spirituality is something that’s a gift, but your time is the most important of them all because you can never get your time back. So How do we chunk out? if you will? How do we separate and divide these 24 hours? Because that’s all we have 24 hours is all we have to live and be on purpose. And one of the things that I’ll never forget in my life is I find that 95% of the people waste 95% of their time worrying about 95% of the things that don’t matter, anyway.
David Ralph [5:28]
Yeah, well, that’s across the world, isn’t it that?
Dr Wayne Pickering [5:31]
Oh, it’s amazing. And but here’s the deal. Too many people I’m finding, well, the statistics show that over 85% of all of the people in this world either come from broken homes, alcoholic parents, abusive parents, Boolean friends, all of that. So whatever makes people think they have exclusivity on stress is a mystery to me. We’ve all got stress in our lives and social What I always get my audience to think about is, let your past be a point of reference, and not a place of residence. Move on, man, it’s gone. We’re in total charge of our time. All we have to do is really be better today than we were yesterday, but not as good as we’re going to be tomorrow. Well, sure, we’re in charge if we’re in charge of our time.
David Ralph [6:22]
Well, I think that point of reference to your past is a key part of this show, because that the theme of Join Up Dots is that there are strong connections with your younger self, and your authentic self that we forget about as we progress through life and we go into jobs that we don’t want to do really just because it’s offered to us and it costs money. So taking that viewpoint of a point of reference, was that a little mango man was a mango kid was a small child running around being very healthy or Was this something that you’ve come across? Because you needed to you needed to change the way You will live in.
Dr Wayne Pickering [7:01]
Good, good question. Well, first of all, I was a very sick fat kid. Quite a bit of my life. I was supposed to die before I was 30. I had rheumatic fever, three times, gout, heart problems. I said, Hey, give me heart problems. Don’t give me gout. I had gout two different times for three to four weeks each time. That was excruciating. So I came from broken home. My parents have been married so many times, David. I think they have scars just from the rice. Hell, and so I didn’t come from a very solid family, if you will. I mean, I’m not crying the blues because everything happens for divine design. All of our setbacks in life are nothing more than setups for us to come back. So I was the runaway in the family. I was a very sick fat kid. I had rheumatoid arthritis rheumatic fever, heart disease, cancer on my rights. side of my lip. I was wounded in my third term working with a Navy SEAL support team down there and not a Vietnam. My third term there, came back I got my first meritorious medal in Santa Domingo and been in three wars. And everything happened to me. precisely at that moment of time I moved to Illinois when I came back from the war. God forbid as horrific as it was out there in Vietnam. It was bombing every day. I mean, it was very hot, and Illinois, that was sometimes 55 degrees below zero chill factor. I was not used to that. So I moved to West Texas to back a dip snuff drink six pack of beer and cried to Merle Haggard every night. At a gallant as I mentioned, I was diagnosed.
You know, prognosis was death. Before I was 30 came to Florida. My mother was going through one of her many divorces and I wound up moving here and I ran into a few people and things started opening up. I sold 10 acres of my land out there in West Texas that I had bought. And three months later the fella died who bought it, his son inherited that land. Now, this is a story you don’t want to hear the they drilled oil on it and was one of the deepest holes in the West Texas Permian Basin, and I sold it for 1800 dollars and it was worth millions. So I was broke, busted and disgusted, depressed. And I decided I would go ahead and go to the sauna bath this day. Little did I know. That was precisely what I was directed to do. Some guy came in and gave me a three step process that within two weeks, I would know exactly what I was going to do for the rest of my life. I was 28 years old. Here we go to school to learn a barrage of facts that we probably will never remember. 5% of The rest of our life anyway. And you’re sitting there and you’re trying to figure out this problem say, Oh gosh, I wish I hadn’t failed algebra, no, not. So in my view, everything happens. We’re not sent to school to learn how to have a good career, how to have a good family life, how to have a keep care of our health, all of that. Too many people. Yet you mentioned today, in your introduction, and I thank you that we’re all healthy automatically by design. There are three great lessons that I had learned as a result of all of these setbacks, which were nothing more than setups for me to come back. And the first lesson was, we’re healthy automatically by design. You cut your hand you’re going to heal whether you tell it to or not. That’s just subcortical it’s innate. It’s, it’s innate wisdom. It’s just how it is. So we’re healthy automatically by design and sick only by default. Here’s a second of the three lessons that I learned when it comes to our health. We never Ever, ever, ever impossible to catch disease? We don’t catch disease. That’s marketing, we earn it. And the third lesson is you get well by what comes out of you, not by what goes into you. I have had more clients asked me this, David. Well, Doc, pardon me, what do you suppose I can take? That’s good for my diabetes. I said, Wait a minute. First of all, you got the vernacular wrong. You should be asking me, what are you going to do? That’s bad for it. You don’t want it? And so I’m convinced that we need to take and refocus our priorities here. Our time is our most valuable asset. And we show people how to divide that three groups of eight hours out to where you’ll be the most effective with what your genuine line, Jen, Jen, generally, as you’d say, passionate about genuinely passionate about and here’s my take on life. If I can just summarise this whole thing up for you, and I thank you for asking me the question. If we honour God and serve our fellow man creating a service, out of what we are genuinely passionate about, so that everybody who’s involved, I don’t know what just gotten my throat here, buddy. Okay, let me rephrase that. If we honour God, and serve our fellow man, creating a service out of what we are genuinely passionate about, so that everybody who’s involved in that service has equal opportunity to gain then we win, we truly win. And I love to eat. I love to be healthy. I can remember when I was in bed there that first time I had rheumatic fever, eight months flat on my back, had to learn to walk all over again. And it was two years before they let me run. All of these things that happened were precisely what I needed at that moment in time.
David Ralph [12:54]
Let’s slow you down. Otherwise I won’t get a word in edgewise your your your man on a mission here. This So many sort of nuggets of gold in that story. But the overriding thing is, you could see the positives when you shouldn’t have had the opportunity to see the positives, you’ve moved on from some big kicks. You know, just the fact that you sell 10 acres of land and it’s worth millions, but that’s gonna, you know, drive some people into the ground. The fact that your parents broke up the fact that you were very it was a small child loads and loads and loads of things there. What makes you different Ben, what makes you not sit there in a bar with a load of beers and think to yourself, I’m going to wallow in this what what’s making you get up and go, but no experience wasted?
Dr Wayne Pickering [13:40]
Good for you. Thank you very much. Well, actually, I used to smoke three packs of cigarettes. Pardon me, three packs a day, but it was more than that. It was two cartons a week. I drank a fifth. a pint of cigarettes v all every day, and a fifth of Smirnoff vodka with a couple of my friends every night. For years, I was suicidal twice in my life. I didn’t always have a grip on this. But it was when I was at my lowest time. And this is my, my phrase to me when I really get down and out. If God brings me to it, he brings me through it. What’s the blessing here? There’s got to be a blessing. And it wasn’t until I was on my second time I was suicidal. I was in Mussina New York, I sitting on a cliff with a razor blade in my left wrist, my belt on my arm to get that blood vein out there. I was ready to go. But something happened in my mind that told me to make a phone call first to say goodbye to a family member. And of course, I’m still here to this day because of it but it wasn’t always that way. So and that was happy that happened when I was 27 when I was suicidal, the second time When I was 28, I was, as I say, broke, busted and disgusted, didn’t know what I was going to do. And it wasn’t until I got that three step plan, that within two weeks, I knew precisely what I was going to do with the rest of my life guaranteed. And that’s what got me started. And then I started hanging around with good positive people. Because it’s known that what we think about David, we bring about what we think about we bring about and our thoughts. There’s six things that govern our thoughts. And I’ll just give you the first one and it’s and it supersedes the other five, by double the company we keep. It’s the company we keep, we have to associate ourselves with more of people of what we’re passionate about, and watch what happens to you. What you’re bringing to the table here, David, I applaud you for this. And that’s not to stroke you. That’s just how it is. You’re doing some awesome things and you’re bringing some tools to people. I didn’t Listen to quite a few of your shows before we ever decided to do this with you. I was so impressed. I couldn’t wait to do this. Thank you. And, and so all of these things, I was never a positive I was the runaway, I was very sick at two of the best years I ever spent in high school or in the 11th grade. I didn’t think I was ever going to get out.
David Ralph [16:20]
So so so do you think that people have to have something to rally against to start really taking control of their life? Because it seems a truth through the shows that people that are comfortably plodding along will plot on forever in a day and it seems to be the people that almost get to the point of nothing, where it’s it’s a 5050 decision, whether they’re going to finish themselves or move on to something new. They’re the ones that kind of pick their bottoms and they start bouncing up. Did you see that with people
Dr Wayne Pickering [16:52]
all the time, all the time. And that’s the joy of it, but too many people love to talk About the problem, then embrace the solution. And there’s there’s three things. One of them that’s so bad is TV, people sit there, and they drown in the storage of doom and gloom, because it’s easier to talk about the problem, then embrace the solution. And I told her, Hey, listen, don’t dump on me. If you want to talk with me, let’s let’s talk about good things. I mean, I’m very busy. And I have to control my mind. And because it’s our mind, you can lose all of your limbs in your body. But if you keep your mind sharp, you will be amazed at the doors that open but one of the challenges is most people don’t know what they’re going to do for the rest of their life. So they go to work for money. I say never work for money, work, what you’re passionate about, and create that service to what you are genuinely passionate about, that everybody who’s involved in that service has equal opportunity to gain and then you win, but the most important component I call it, the three Teach to our reality, what we think about, we bring about what we think about, we bring about and what we talk about, we bring about. So engulf yourself in great things, listen to more of the shows here on join, Join Up Dots and get some good books and this is the only way I know how to do it. But it was always the older people that I associated with when I, one of the last times when I was blind in my right eye and 60% vision in my left die. I was devastated. Thinking I would never ever get well. But it was a little Kansas City country doctor who came into my life. And three weeks later I was totally cured from that. And he became one of the best friends ever had in my life. Dr. George W. Foster out of wheezing tin cans if you will. Now you know I didn’t make that up, always in Kansas. And so that’s a whole story in itself, but it was all in Everything happened to me to get me to where I needed to be today because we’re all divinely designed to do something great. Well, we all
David Ralph [19:08]
know but but you say Dr Wayne Pickering , but you know, don’t work for money, find your passion. And I agree with that. I totally agree with that. But I know that until you find your passion is the hardest thing in the world to find. So did you have any sort of tips because we we basically say on this show, look back at the things that you love doing as a kid when money wasn’t in the equation. And that gives you a good indication of the passions. And it’s funny. At the moment, I’m into jigsaw puzzles. I haven’t done a jigsaw puzzle for years, but my daughter who’s nine years old, has suddenly got a passion for them. And I’ve discovered the passion for them as well. And it just takes me back. There’s no reason to sit there for hours on end, trying to figure out what is a cloud and what is the See, but it’s a passion that you just want to do because you want to do it. Isn’t it
Dr Wayne Pickering [20:00]
Oh yeah, no doubt. And you see, I love to eat. Let me let me tell you something to when I was in Vietnam, I can remember when I had gotten wounded over there and my third term, and I was constantly, constantly David, not just an hour to day No, all through the day, months at a time sick at my stomach. It was constantly burning. I did, I couldn’t figure it out. And it wasn’t until when I came back from the war, and I had moved to Illinois. Then I spent a year there and spent two and a half years in West Texas and I came to Florida By the way, in these the six years. Six years, six years, that I from the time I found myself, that I was went through all those 36 different jobs that I went through 36 and I was just out of it, but it wasn’t until I went by a good friend of mines house this day, his his girlfriend and I were great friends and he wanted, she wanted to introduce me to her boyfriend. And Ralph was his name. And I said, Ralph, what’s that little postcard up there and you’re on your refrigerator door talking about foods and everything. always said, Listen, if you ever got any stomach pains or anything, and I didn’t complain about my promise, so nobody knew the devastation I had in my gut system. It was terrible. And he said, If you eat that way, you will never have indigestion again in your life. I should wait wait, wait, say that again. You will never have indigestion again in your life has come. What’s that about? So I should wear what I bought. He said I got an extra one. I’ll give you one. I said, Well, thank you very much. I took it home. I was shocked. absolutely shocked. Within 24 hours. I didn’t feel that anymore. I said No, this can’t be true. I’ve been suffering from this for years. So I did it precisely the food combinations, by the way, is what it’s all about. Eating according to your body’s digestive chemistry, we must do that in our lives. This is not a garbage dump with a hairy of it. This is our corporate headquarters. This is all we got. So, we need to too many of us are selling our stock cheap. We need to put a high price tag on our stock, quit selling your stock cheap. Discover Your greatness, you deserve plenty calm. That’s the reason we had to put that website together. It’s the educational tool for people to get their health, their wealth and their personal self all in order in their life. We had to do that took us years to do all the actual work that went into that. So I did that because there’s a three step plan in there that within two weeks, people know exactly what they’re going to do for the rest of their life. And it was precisely what I needed at that moment in time with that little postcard. I call the doctor who put that together and little did I know now I’ve got about 30 of this man’s books. I mean, you come to my library, we got a lot of books and How does you know?
David Ralph [23:02]
How did you know you’ve done 36 jobs? And literally every job you always think, Oh, this is gonna be a good job I was you went take it, I imagine but how did you know? in that? Three steps that was your thing for the rest of your life against all the other things you’ve done leading up to that?
Dr Wayne Pickering [23:18]
Okay, remember when you’ve had a good idea, a great idea. Let me add that light bulb goes off kind of thing. Let me give you an overview of that three step process, man. I do that because you can go for it. Okay. I was sitting on the sauna bath that day. And the guy comes in and he says, Well, how you doing, man? I said, Well, I’m doing what do you mean? You’re doing okay, man. He says, You got a lot on the boss. Wait a minute, Dave. Don’t don’t don’t tell me that. I said, Tell me what I can do to make money. He said, wait, wait. He says you got all this wrong. You don’t work for money. You work at what you love to do. I share a lot on what I love to do, and I got to eat and I I got my rent to pay. And I got all that stuff ago just like everybody else. And so he said, he, he said, You got a lot on the ball. I said, well give me a few things. You think I got on the ball, he net rattle off about 10 of them. I said, Well, what good are those? He said, obviously, you don’t know what you’re going to do for the rest of your life do he said No, I don’t. He sat there and gave me the three step plan. I’m going to give you the first one right now. He said, I want you to write down 50 things on a piece of paper that you just love doing. Not 48 got to a minimum of it could be 60. Could be hundred, but 50 at least. So and you come back and see me here next week at Saturday at three o’clock. I’ll tell you step two. I’m going to give you a three step plan. He said that within two weeks, you will not maybe print you will know precisely what you’re going to do for the rest of your life. Done. dot guaranteed has come. He said, What do you got to lose? He said, You’re going nowhere. Anyway, he’s I’ve been teaching this for years. I said, You’re right. So what I did, I said, Okay, I went home. I said, I want to be on the beach. I want to be tan. I want to have a lot of women around me. I want to have a lot of money.
David Ralph [25:20]
Yeah. But he said, he said, No, he’s asking you what you love. And you’re saying what you want? Is that different?
Dr Wayne Pickering [25:26]
Okay, good. Good call. I am I stand corrected. It’s what you love, what you want to do and what you did in your past. That was very, very reflected upon his being you’re happy about. So of those three categories, I’m giving you a real encapsulated view of this right now. Okay. That so I wrote down 10 things. I coupled up with a 10 thing she gave me. I called him on the phone and told him what I had. He said, All right, because you only told me what I’d love to do the same thing. When I called him back. He said, Well, what did what do you Want to do? So I wrote down some more things, call them back and 42 things on the list. I called him back. And he said, because I had to meet him next Saturday at three o’clock, and that was Thursday. So I had to get this list done before three o’clock on that Saturday. So I called him and he said, Now, what did you love? What did you accomplish in your past that when you reflect back on that you were very proud of? I shouldn’t Okay, I said, I was a leading naval cadet for the entire country of Canada in 1963. He said, That’s true. I said, that’s good. I said, What good is that? He said, Are you kidding? So he named me off about 10 or 15 little positive things that came from that wrote those down. He said, Okay, now see me to Saturday at three o’clock. I’ll tell you step two, I said you’re wrong. So I got 52 things on my list.
David Ralph [26:50]
So so let’s just summarise that but but we move on to the next because I know the listeners are scribbling this down furiously. So you’re looking for 50 things but you either love You want to do, or you’ve done well in the past? Is that right?
Dr Wayne Pickering [27:04]
That’s correct. Right. Okay, good god. Okay, good summarization. Okay, so step two.
You’ll love this. David. I’m glad you’re asking me this.
I meet him there. There’s Timmy. Three o’clock, Johnny on the spot Santa bath, and I go in there and I’m sitting down next to him and he I said, Okay, Timmy, I got the list done. He said, Great. He said, I was concerned. I said, Listen, you’re the first person in my life that’s ever come in and gave me some kind of hope. I told him I was the runaway in the family. I mean, I had a lousy home life. It was terrible. And I don’t want to go into that too much, but it was quite something. And it’s just told me step two, he said, All right, here’s what you got to do. You read the list for 15 minutes, out loud by yourself every morning in the same place, not telling a person That you’re doing it, and 15 minutes before you go to bed at night, in the same place that you did it in the morning for six days.
On the seventh day,
you don’t you don’t do it you just crinkled the paper up and throw it in the garbage can and by the time that paper hits the basket, you will know precisely what you’re going to do for the rest of your life. See me here next Saturday at three o’clock. I’ll tell you step three. I go Really? So I said, You gotta be kidding. He said what do you you did the hardest part you created the list. I said you’re on I go home in the morning I want to be tan I want to be on the beach. I want to have a lot of money on a lot of women me yada yada right through the whole thing. Every night, same thing, but I was negative. So on the sixth day after I get through reading the seventh day I crinkled the paper up, I throw it hits the basket. It’s it’s not happening. How come I don’t know what I’m going to do. hear what’s wrong. I didn’t know that I was rejecting it. Do you see? In inside, you have to believe in yourself. You’ve got to do that. So here’s the point. I showed up at the sauna bath. He wasn’t there yet. Now it’s 315. Timmy hadn’t showed up yet. 330 still didn’t show 345 I was disgusted as I just did all this work for nothing. So I get up and I was walking out the door. Another guy comes in. Dave Hampton. Dave’s Hey, man, how you doing? I said, I’m okay. He’s what you mean, you’re okay, man. He said, You got a lot on the boss. Dave, don’t tell me this. I’ve just heard this before. He says when he says you got a lot on the ball, man. I said, Well, give me a few things. You think I got on the ball. So I he gave me a few. I said well, he said what are you doing for work? Now? I said I’m not doing anything. He said, Why don’t you work for me? I said what do you do? He said I sell suntan lotion I go around the world can you make money selling suntan Many should wait. Don’t be a fool. People come to Florida for two major reasons to have an outrageously good time and to get a tan. I go Okay. All right. Tell me more. He said I have 20 motels on the beach that I have 20 lifeguards on. I have 10 relief guards and I have five maintenance crew. He says I’ve got to fire somebody today. I want to take you out to dinner. He should you want to go in your car mine I said well, I thought to myself, my car has three colours on it. Brown black rust. And because I live beside over here, so everything just rust. So I said let’s go into yours when he pulled up in that little blue Porsche career paid for took me out to the Hilton bought the best. And I took me out to that motel and I saw this great big overweight guy with a sombrero hat on pooka shells or wisco pair of shorts and a pair of flip flops on his feet and some jewellery Okay, like his turquoise jewellery that he was selling. And the women were Coming up to him at his little stand on that big motel and buying up the suntan lotion. Did you see that guy over there? he’s stealing from me, and I gotta fire. You see the women coming up. He makes about 2015 to $20,000 every six months, got each month, every six months under the table tax free and the whole bit all that stuff, he said, and he gets 35% of it. He said, If you work for me when I’ll pay you 50% I should really, I said this me walk around the pool deck a little bit. So I walked around that pool deck and it was massive. This was a huge hotel with two great big pools, young kids pool and a great big tiki bar there. You know the drill. You’ve been some of these tropical places. So I’m walking around the pool deck and I’m looking at all these fine looking women. I said, Man, I said I could probably get used to this. So I came back to him. And I looked at him and I said this to him. And the answer he gave me changed my life. I should Dave would I need a course or something to do this man? He said Gentleman, he says, I’m going to pay you, just to be you. And it was at that moment in time, David, David, Ralph, that I felt like somebody hit me behind my knees and I fell into one of those lounge chairs. And I said, My God, that’s my list. I’m going to be on the beach, I’ll be tan, I’ll be in shape. I’ll have a lot of women around me, I’ll have all kinds of money. This is I said, Dave, I’m going to do it. So I did it for four years. And I did very well but they were doing me wrong. And I was stressed out about it. Because if you’ve got me as a friend or an employee or whatever, you’ve got me my allegiance. And my integrity. I value very highly. So the last year I decided I was going to quit, didn’t know what I was going to do, but I saved up a little money. And I decided I’m going to walk off the last pool deck I was on I was walking up the stairs. I turned around, I blew my whistle and everybody looked at me. And I said, goodbye, everybody. You’ve been great. And I was walking up the stairs. I promise you, David, everything happens for divine design. This will
open your eyes for a second here. As I was walking up the stairs, you will never guess who I bumped into. To me, the guy who didn’t tell me step three, who had to leave I grabbed him. I said, Where where he said, My mother died. I had to go back to up north. And I lost contact with him. Because I was out there lifeguarding. So I asked him what was step three? And I told him my dilemma and he said, Listen, you do the process over again. And here’s what step three was, that you go ahead. And once you discover what you want to do, you’re going to find out you’re going to find somebody who was very successful doing it and follow their plan until you develop your own uniqueness. Because everybody, everybody that’s Created has their own uniqueness that if we don’t do what we’re supposed to be doing on this earth, it will never get done. That’s the deal. You are so unique. So I redid the list. And there were three new things on the list. I still want to be on the beach I still wanted to be you know, have a lot of women around me and just do all that stuff. You know when you when you’re in your 30s and early 30s, you know, you’re still just in that young spirit.
David Ralph [34:25]
So I was Tommy bowties.
Unknown Speaker [34:28]
Way to go, David.
Dr Wayne Pickering [34:31]
But here was the three new things I put on my list. I love to eat. I love to entertain and I love to travel. I have been travelling for 37 years in several countries, entertaining audiences, showing them how to eat and if you had a have published 25 books. We’ve got 28 websites due to have two TV shows. I do. We’re all over the world. We’ve been in business 37 years. And this is the first time ever, in the history of my career that we’re now in 37 countries. With our work, we’re very blessed. And as long as you stay passionate about what you love to do, and that you’re dedicated, and you must hang around associate, I should say, with people who are of like minds, because what we were only as good as a company we keep, and I’ll give you a little for instance, you take somebody from New Jersey, David, and you send them down to South as they would do South Carolina, and they stay down there for two years, you know what I’m talking about, and they go back up north and their friends say, you got an accent. I mean, you eat like that. Now, surely you don’t talk like I mean, you dress like that. So we cannot not be influenced by the company. We keep some of the great things that you’re bringing to this table with your Join Up Dots. Efforts is you’re giving people a way out. What I’m bringing to the table here, hopefully today is to show people precisely what you can do to get your health, your wealth and your personal self, all in order. Because it’s a very simple process. But we’re not taught this. We’re not taught from our families, most families anyway, to eat the best because they were taught by the way their folks ate, I used to eat. I used to run and hold my hands a certain way because that’s the way my dad did. And I would eat like my dad did. And I put the fork in my face, like my dad or my mouth like my dad did. So we emulate our parents as a rule. And so where do we go to learn this? That’s my efforts, teaching people how to get older and better and not old and bitter with a focus on nutrition and a basic philosophy. If you want to be tough. You’ve got the good stuff. There’s the three step plan and hopefully that helps.
David Ralph [36:58]
So that that free That that free plan stage is absolutely perfect, isn’t it but finding the passion in your life. And I’m going to play some words now. But we play literally every down the show because it really emphasises that moment again, but you had when you suddenly realise it was the thing you want to do. This is Jim Carrey.
Unknown Speaker [37:18]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [37:45]
So if you take that belief, but he says bear with your exercises, you really cooking on gas on you?
Dr Wayne Pickering [37:52]
Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, too many people. I’m finding as I indicated a little while ago That they let their past be a point of reference residents and not just reference we need to we need to reflect on the past as a point of reference, not a place of residence, we use it to your blunt. It’s a blessing. It’s exactly what we when I was so sick, David, I look back now and what that one of the things that it qualifies me to do is to be more compassionate about people who are in that predicament, but also the way for them to rise above it. And in our series, how to get wealth and stay well for life, that we bring all that to the table. Here’s what you do to get well. Now what’s the use of showing people how to get well if we don’t show them how to stay well for life? That’s what we’re all about.
David Ralph [38:44]
So So did you take a risk like Jim Carrey is saying, did you take a risk on doing what you love? Or was it just that you didn’t have any other option?
Dr Wayne Pickering [38:54]
Good question. Actually, I’ve never been asked it like that before. I I had the right people come into my life, I took chances I got ripped off, if you will pardon the use of the cliche stole from and I hadn’t made a little bit of money back when the copper was really, and silver was really doing some ups and downs and I made, I made my first million dollars, I never forgot it. And what we gain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly, so to speak. So without too much longer, that million dollars was gone. Because of other people, I trusted something. That’s one of my pitfalls in my life. I trust some of a lot of issue, but I trust a lot of the wrong people at times. But now I’m a little older and a little smarter. And you have to learn from those. So what Jim Carrey had to say, look, it’s better to fail at something you love than to fail at something you don’t love. It that’s what I gleaned from that little excerpt so
David Ralph [39:56]
but but one thing people don’t don’t. That’s the I think that’s really the theme of the whole show now really is why are you not trying? Why are you sitting there complaining about your situation complaining, but you’re not earning enough? not complaining, complaining, complaining, and you’re still not trying? And I think that’s the thing.
Dr Wayne Pickering [40:18]
Yeah, there’s an answer to that. People love to talk about the problem, then embrace the solution because they get more attention from speaking about the problem than they do. Embracing the solution. And here’s the other portion of it. People only want what they want. When the want is more than the effort slash costs, what’s it going to cost you to do this? What’s it going to cost you to start making a positive difference in your life to make an even bigger positive difference in other people’s lives with what you’re passionate about? I love to eat. I love to travel. I love to entertain. I was all I was a singer when I was growing up in school, that was my way out plus a secret that’s of course in Canada. And I was in the blue jackets choir and the first part of the Navy before I went, you know, full bone out there with the Vietnam stuff. And but I but now when I’m in front, I let my dream go away from me because I let too many people criticise me and it stole the dream. But now when I’m in front of an audience, I say, hey, do you guys want 10 minutes? Or 20? minute break? Does everyone 20 is a good sit there for 10 minutes. I’m going to sing to you a little bit and I get away with it.
David Ralph [41:32]
And then what do you see?
Dr Wayne Pickering [41:34]
Oh, gosh, I sing just about anything that comes to my mind. Don’t ask me to sing now because I’m not gonna do it.
David Ralph [41:40]
We could harmonise we could do a transatlantic, I don’t know karaoke competition. The two of us.
Dr Wayne Pickering [41:47]
Hey, have me back and we’ll do that I’ll prepare myself will do that.
David Ralph [41:51]
So So where did the name the mango man come from? Was it did you choose it or did somebody give it to you?
Unknown Speaker [41:59]
Dr Wayne Pickering [42:02]
I can remember when we were in the Philippines on my first of three terms in Vietnam, I was in a on a great big helicopter carrier where we took 3000 Marines over there. And we would have a little bit of r&r that’s rest and relaxation kind of thing in the Philippines. And so when we’re in the Philippines, I can remember this weird, odd shaped looking fruit that was there and everybody was just getting those and taking them down into their bunk and eating them. And I said, What do you guys eat in our mangoes? I never heard of one. I come from a little island in Canada, where you had apples, berries and cherries, and a mango. I never heard of it. So when I tried to go wow, I should that’s delicious. So I was here in Florida. And I was speaking in my career and I always buy a couple mangoes here and there but I never had a good mango. I didn’t know what a good mango was. And so I was speaking in southern Florida this time, and there was a huge audience and I happen to mention mangoes and all I happened to go over to this guy who had a beard britches and, you know, he was just kind of a farmer, a farmer looking type of guy. So he came up to me after he says not Dr. Pickering, he said you’re pretty funny up there. He says, Let me ask you do you like mangoes? I do. I like them. I love them. He said, Well, we grow them I should do you. He said, Why don’t you come by my firm after the seminar here and I’ll give you a bushel of fresh but I should You’re kidding. So I went by. I was shocked. First of all, he and his brother are responsible for the production of over 60% of the mangoes grown in this country. So I started buying a lot of mangoes from these people because they have over 500 varieties just in southern Florida that they grow. There’s over 5000 varieties of mangoes all over the world. Okay, so And here’s their job. They go around the world and sample mangoes, they bring them back if they like, if they like a mango, this isn’t an incredible thing that they do. They’re doing what they love to do. They’re passionate about mangoes. So they will, let’s say they go overseas and they liked them and they’ll buy a couple hundred these mangoes, they will feed the homeless and send the seeds back home. They will propagate the seeds and when they grow to a certain height, they’ll put them on a rootstock of something that was already established. Now they have to call it a different name. Because there’s two interesting things about mangoes, David, one of them, they’re a member of the poison ivy family so that a lot of people when they’re obese, that their immune system isn’t up to par, that they will break out in rashes because of the, the, the, the SAP and also they’re unique and that they’re not true to seed. If you plant and we have a mango named after us. It’s called the Pickering which I’ll share with you in This little vignette I’m giving you that Walter who was the brother that I met at the seminar was doing he turned a introduced me to his brother Gary. And so they have to name these mangoes he said Wouldn’t that Gary’s got about 550 varieties in full bloom down there if you want to go down he said you could interview him if you should you’re on. I took my recording gear, drove four hours one way and had the time of my life. I was shocked. We were going through that and and David, you would been surprised at there was one mango that was a little over four and a half pounds. I said, I didn’t know you grew watermelon series or that’s not a watermelon. That’s a cue at mango secu ad. Why would you name a mango cutie go out? I haven’t figured out the proper name for it. But as rho Q and at trees in, I said No kidding. So we happen to be walking by during my interview and there was a mango that fell. And when they fall right there, you know, that’s going be perfect so I picked it up I so would you mind if I ate this? So I was eating a nice Gary, what are you going to call this one? This is probably one of the best mangoes I’ve ever had. He said we’re going to call it the Harry Carey as good a name as that. Well, he said is next to the carry mango tree and it doesn’t have any fibre, no hair to it. So we’re going to call it the hairy carry. I said that’s a horrible name for a mango. So would you love it so much? I should yes I do. I’d like to buy a Porsche. He said why don’t we just call it Pickering? 12 years ago when I interviewed him 12 years later, they’re in all over the world. The Pickering mango. There in Hawaii. I get emails from India, Philippines, Brazil, Hawaii, telling me what an awesome mango that is. Now here’s where I’m going with that. How did I get to be known as the mango man.
I took a lot of those mangoes. I’m past president of the National Speakers Association here in Florida and I’m very well connected in the interest in industry. And what they did David is they had their their national International Convention here in Florida one year and I took six bushels of mangoes they started interviewing me and I was given those mangoes away to people Brian Tracy Sigler, Willy jolly Alan Walker some Terry Brock some really great speakers. And they called me the mango man. Well, they decided they want to interview me every month for seven to 10 minutes on how to be healthy on the road when you’re speaking during your speaking career because that was big of interest today. So I did that and they they sent that audio I mean, yeah, the audio cassette, the cassette, you know, you know, I’m dating myself, but audio cassette programmes out to thousands and thousands of speakers all over the world meeting planners, speakers, bureaus, you name it and I got very they introduced me as the mango man. So I got very popular very quickly as the mango man and we had a mango Named after us so it just jelled well and we have mango man diet which is one of our two websites I’d like to bring to the table today with you. You deserve plenty will get your career your personal self your health all in order, but then what am I going to eat? How do I eat so mango man diet gives you all the recipes for January February March, April, May June wherever you were, you got recipes. So the point is that’s how we got the mango man. Now we’ve got 28 websites eight of them are have mango man attached to a mango man blog mango man speaks mango man diet, mango man itself. Mango man health is your membership site. But a lot of so mango man has stuck with us. And even though I have my doctorate in natural empathy and theology plus my masters in nutrition, we focus just on nutrition. And because I don’t treat disease, too many people go about their health wrong to David By the way, they actually treat the disease I said no, no, no, you don’t treat the disease for goodness sakes you treat the body the disease will take care of itself. I don’t care what you’ve got treat the body. But but but but
David Ralph [49:13]
the amazing thing is is jumping in again is you were blown sideways by the fact that they were making a money on mangoes and that’s that’s a key nugget of gold, isn’t it in this episode, but even the weirdest things out there people can make an income if they love dealing with it. And when we all go, are you going to get a job, you’re going to work in an office you’re going to do this. And when you walk into a field and you see somebody who loves mangoes and they’re doing very well on it, you kind of think how to make a living, but people do don’t know. Oh,
Dr Wayne Pickering [49:48]
Listen, my aunt Jean. Now you’ll love this. She’s up in there an island in Canada. One of my favourite and she’s 19 years old, going strong as you could say And I called her the ice Angie. Everybody has an aunt gene but I got an aunt gene and gene is a classic. I she said, Honey, we just had one of the best snowfalls. I said, You’re the first person that named it that everybody says the worst snowfall. Oh no, she says, Dear, I just love it. We’ve got about eight feet of snow and it’s just beautiful. So I said, What do you do on your spare time? Oh, I don’t have any spare time, honey. I’m busy. So what do you do? She says I knit mitts. So her theme is I gave her her theme. I said aunt Jean. Here’s your slogan. I’m getting older and better and not old and bitter. As I knit a MIT, she knits 200 mittens every month and sells them at 90. Hello,
David Ralph [50:47]
and welcome to number one. I’m getting older and better. So here’s a quick sweater. What about that one?
Unknown Speaker [50:53]
Good one, good one. There you go.
David Ralph [50:56]
You can go here fast. You can trademark but now Find the fascinating really that, that so many people beat themselves up, but they can’t see the passion. They can’t see what they should be doing. But the clues are all around us all the time. And it’s one of those annoying things. And I’m gonna play some words that really emphasise how it all comes together. But you’ve just got to have faith and trust. And it’s the theme of the whole show. And this is the speech that Steve Jobs did back in 2005, and is why we call it Join Up Dots,
Steve Jobs [51:27]
Steve Jobs. Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path, and that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [52:03]
So what’s your big.in life? If you look at the Join Up Dots timeline, as Steve Jobs is saying, and you’ve already alluded to the fact that you feel that no experience is wasted. What would you say is your big dot where you really started to find your thing?
Dr Wayne Pickering [52:19]
Well, it was when I was at my lowest time in my life. And one and that three step process will bring you to the point where Okay, what do I do next? That’s when you find those type of people like Steve Jobs like I and I’m not stroking you again, David, but like David Ralph, who is really taking what you’re passionate about, how could you not love talking to people? You’re doing that and you’re doing an incredible job, you love it, why not? And so the worst thing we can do, when we decide what we’re going to do in life, is to tell people what we’re going to do. That’s the worst thing you can because people are always down on They’re not up on. People will always criticise you. Now, there’s two reasons why people talk about you. And that’s it, David just too, if they like you, or they don’t like you, if they’d like you all well and good if they don’t like you, there’s only two reasons. They don’t know you. Or they’re jealous of you. And I tell everybody, don’t be jealous. Join us. This is a great time. Come on. Let’s have a good time. What’s all this craziness? I tell people this there are three. Remember your time, that’s the most valuable asset. There are three entities that I’m convinced I know I’m going to rub a lot of shoulders and ruffle a lot of feathers here with this, but there are three entities and I’m convinced that are the demise of the People’s productivity in the world. Number one, the schools. They teach people how to learn a barrage of facts that if they repaint five to 10% of that in their life, that’s a big percentage, we totally crush their creativity. And the older they get, the less creative they want to become because they’re so conditioned not to do it. Here’s the second. People watch the TV. Sure, there’s great programmes on TV, of course, but it’s all marketing craziness. I was listening to Paul Harvey one time the great newscaster here in the United States. I don’t know if you remember him, but he was really great. I went to see him perform in a huge group of 21,000 people over in Tampa, St. Petersburg, Florida this year, along with some other great speakers, but I went to see Paul Paul came out there and said, Hello, fellow Americans, Paul Harvey, Stand by for new. He said, Mary Ellen has no more gallbladder trouble. She just gave birth to an eight pound baby boy What a surprise to her. She didn’t know she was pregnant. What a great surprise your husband. He didn’t know she was pregnant. But what an even greater surprise to her physician who diagnosed With gall bladder trouble, page two, so he went along, and he get into his talk a little bit, and he says, There is more great things that’s going on in this world. And it comes into our newsroom. He said over 98% of the news that comes in is great news, she said, but we can’t print it. Because if it doesn’t bleed, it doesn’t read. And I have put a little additive to that. If it doesn’t bleed, excuse me. Yeah, if it doesn’t bleed, it doesn’t read and it doesn’t lead. So, schools TV, and the third one is really going to ruffle some feathers is the churches. It’s most unfortunate that church and most of them are based on fear. But if we take the word fear, I know you’re going to remember the acronym false evidence appearing real but here’s what fear really means. You take that word, David, and you write the word fear down, and here’s what you’re going to read. Remember, forget everything and run or face everything and rise.
Use fear, use fear to your benefit because it’s great, but you cannot tell people what you’re going to do. As I said, People are always down on what they’re not up on. And whatever they print about you and today’s newspapers as always, tomorrow as toilet paper, forget about it. You never get tackled unless you’re running with the ball. Okay? That’s just the deal. We’ve got greatness to ourselves, you take a look at your hand for example, nothing and in x excels the human hand and dexterity and what it can do nothing, no prosthesis nothing. This hand this eyes that you have your fingernails grow at exactly the same rate as the way the earth plates move one inch per year. You’ve got so much greatness to you just in the physiology of your body. But it’s the mind that you’re in total control of nobody else controls our thoughts. But us. That was an eye opener for me. We are the only people who are in total charge of our thoughts. I can remember a little story, David about this guy who was dying. He owned a pig farm. And he was laying in bed, suffered a stroke, couldn’t move, but he figured out that he still had his mind. He got his all his family together and got him around a table. He said, I want you to go ahead and raise little pigs. And when they get to a certain age, you slaughter them, and we’re going to sell them as little pig sausages. The family did it. It master a fortune on just a third of the property the ad that he had that he used to try to do that he could barely make a living on before and he became a multi millionaire and he couldn’t even move. It’s your mind. We must control our minds. Our minds are awesome and what you can do and here’s a good line. What we visualise in our mind, we will realise in time, perfect,
David Ralph [58:05]
perfect and it takes us to the end of the show did this show could go on for about six hours, there’s so much passion coming out of you. And to be honest, that that is your key to success, your passion that is contagious, and you can see why you’re doing such great things out there. But this is the part of we call the Sermon on the mic. And this is when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Dr Wayne Pickering , what advice would you give and what age would you choose where we’re going to find out now because I’m going to play the theme and when it fades, you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mic
Sermon On The Mic [58:47]
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Dr Wayne Pickering [59:03]
Okay, what we need to do if I were to have a group of kids together, and I look at myself when I was a kid, Oh how I wish I had known somebody like me back then. Now that’s not to put myself on a pedestal by any means, but where do we go to learn all this hardware? So, the most important thing that I could get you to think about is to control your mind. Do what you love doing each day, no matter how ridiculous people call you. There are some the bullying today in school, no problem. When I look at my past, the thing that I wish that I could honestly say that I would do again if I had to live my life again. Would I be take better control of my mind, there are living a life of no regrets is a great theme is a great theme of ours. And here The the point of living a life of no regrets, there’s only two things that I would change in my life if I had to live it over again. I wouldn’t change me running away from home getting wounded in Vietnam, falling out of an oil rig in West Texas, falling out of a six story building three and a half stories down over a scaffold almost killing myself. It’s so many other great thing. There’s only two things that I would change, I would never take my freedom for granted. And I would never ever, ever abused my health ever. So take control of your thoughts. And there are six things that’s going to control your thoughts. I mean, that are an influence on your thoughts. Number one is the company you keep and it’s the most important number two is the what you read. Number three, what you listen to it’s known that if you drive 10,000 miles a year in the in your car and listen to positive self development audio programmes, that that’s the same is getting one year college degree 20,002 years 40,000 miles you got a four year college degree just from listening to great things in your car. So what we the people we associate with the what we listened to what we read what we watch the words we speak, crucial. Your mind does not know I don’t have cancer. All it remembers is I have cancer. So, I have radiant health. Thank you not I don’t have cancer. No, I have radiant health. I love myself. You’ve got to tell yourself that you like yourself because if you don’t feel qualified, Who in the world you think is going to be more qualified than you? You know yourself better than anybody. All right, and the last one is what we consume. junkie air junkie water junkie food junkie attitude junkie thoughts. All right, control your mind, your mind is your most valuable asset. So if I were to take myself back in time I would do that and not let people try to influence me to go to work to make money to do this. And that’s crazy. You’re here for greatness. And I’m happy to be a part of your show today David and thanks for all you’re doing to make a positive difference in so many people’s lives.
David Ralph [1:02:18]
Dr Wayne Pickering, how can our audience connect with you sir?
Dr Wayne Pickering [1:02:24]
And we have an email address you’re welcome to mango man at mango man calm. That’s mango man. Ma n g o ma n at mango man ma n g o ma n.com mango man at mango man calm. The website that I would encourage everybody to go to there’s two of them we have 28 but these two will serve you very well. You while you you deserve plenti.com you deserve plenti.com what that is that’s going to help you get your health, your wealth and your personal self in a positive direction in your life for the long haul, you’re here for greatness. And here’s the other website. Okay, Doc, I know how to eat now and I know how to do this. I mean, I know how to take care of my health, but what do I have for breakfast lunch and dinner? Mango man diet.com has very little to do with mangoes. It was that was an easy website for you to remember. Mango man diet.com. Now since you’re overseas, and this doesn’t have to be shipped, those are all downloadable. That’s going to save you an enormous amount of postage, and it’s in your in your hands right then. And you’ve got listening material right away to do what you need to do. There’s also a video or two in there with Dr. mercola and myself doing a huge interview on food combining. But those three avenues of pursuit mango man at mango man calm is the email, mango man diet, get your nutrition down with 400 recipes and a whole bunch of other good And of course you deserve plenty calm, David, keep on making a positive difference. I applaud you for what you’re doing.
David Ralph [1:04:09]
We certainly will. And thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. Please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Dr. Wayne mango man Pickering. Thank you so much.
Dr Wayne Pickering [1:04:25]
very welcome. Thank you, David.
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