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Introducing Therese Skelly
Todays guest on Join Up Dots is a lovely lady, who was introduced to me by another lovely lady Joan Sotkin who appeared on episode 242.
She said to me “David you have to get my friend on the show, she has hustle, passion, and enthusiasm coming out of every pore”
And so that is what I have done, and she has a brilliant backstory that makes her perfect for a show like this, as in her own words she starts with
“Guess I’d say that I am the quintessential “Accidental Entrepreneur.”
I didn’t come to the party via business school or any well-crafted plan. Nope. I listened to Guidance and jumped in the middle of the deep end!
My first career came about with a Master’s Degree and 25 years of counseling experience. That actually gave me a fabulous foundation to understand the inner working of the mind, motivation, behavior, and those crazy unconscious parts that hold us back.
How The Dots Joined Up For Therese
But it did NOTHING to prepare me to run a business or make a bunch of money! Not at all.
That has come through grit and grace! Being committed to do whatever it takes to learn and grow. Finding mentors who will shine lights on the places I can’t see. Being in focused action, and a fierce and firm decision to follow this path and never, ever give up on my dream.”
And that my faithful listeners is a blueprint to success, and one that will be worth you grabbing a pen and paper and jotting down the nuggets of gold I just know we will deliver on this show.
So how did she find the courage to jump in at the deep end, when so many people are scared of even dipping the toes into the water?
And looking back on it, are there things that she would have differently that can make our transition from unhappy employees to life loving folk?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Therese Skelly.
During the episode we discussed such weighty topics with Therese Skelly such as:
How her promise in business is “You can earn money doing something you love” but so many people struggle to truly buy into this concept due to years of programming.
How she lost everything in her life, and ended up at a point that she knew she couldn’t go any further downwards, and then started to take control and fought back.
When you say to “Yes” to whatever is offered to you, you only then have to make a decision on the next step that needs to be made. Just one simple step will move your forwards.
Test everything when you first start building a business, and even if you end up not liking it then you will have at least learned that you don’t like doing it…..great advice!
If it feels good then go with it as more often than not then you will find you enjoy it so much that you will work so hard that you will cant fail to make it a success.
How To Connect With Therese Skelly
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Full Transcription Of Therese Skelly Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello bear world it’s David Ralph. It’s Join Up Dots. It’s another episode it’s Episode 305 and I don’t know why my voice keeps on doing that. It must be the enthusiasm that I’ve got the my task and I am extremely enthusiastic about today’s lady because she she says racy talk before we started recording. She was being flirty and racy, so I don’t know where this conversation is gonna go. But hey, I’m the man to take it there because she is a lovely lady who was introduced to me by another lovely lady Jones sockin, who appeared on episode two for two she said to me, David, you have to get my friend on the show. She has hustle, passion and enthusiasm coming out of every pore. And so that is what I’ve done and she has a brilliant backstory that makes her perfect for a show like this. As in her own words she starts with, I guess I’d say that I’m the quintessential accidental entrepreneur. I didn’t come to the party by business school or any well crafted plan Nope. I listened to guidance and jumped in the middle of the deep end. Now, my first career came about with a master’s degree in 25 years of counselling experience that actually gave me a fabulous foundation to understand the inner workings of the mind, motivation behaviour, and those crazy unconscious parts that hold us back. There the crazy things we got hit with a limb, but it did nothing to prepare me to run a business or make a bunch of money not at all that has come true grit and grace being committed to do whatever it takes to learn and grow. Finding mentors who will shine lights on the places I can’t see being in focused action and appears and burn decision. To follow this path and never, ever give up on my dream, and not my faithful Join Up Dots listeners is a blueprint to success and one that will be worth you grabbing a pen and a paper and jotting down the nuggets of gold. I just know we will deliver on this show. So how did she find the courage to jump in at the deep end? When so many people are scared of even dipping their toes into the water and looking back on it? Are there things that she would have done differently that can make her transition from unhappy employees to life loving folk easier? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start Join Up Dots with the one and only to Therese Skelly, how are you?
Therese Skelly [2:38]
I’m great. I’m so glad to be here. Thank you for that introduction. I didn’t know as being flirty. I was being I was being a little edgy. But we could call it whatever right?
David Ralph [2:47]
I’ll tell you what, I’m at the age I take it wherever I go.
Therese Skelly [2:54]
It’s all an interpretation, right? So absolutely. Then it was flirty. That was it. Yes. Well, I
David Ralph [2:59]
I’m going to actually expand on as soon as we finished recording I’m straight on Facebook I am your never guess what happened to me today. Bang Bang Bang. I’m gonna be a new man.
Therese Skelly [3:11]
Definitely go for it. Yeah sure go for it.
David Ralph [3:14]
I was reading that introduction and actually you as as I was reading it and it said grab a pen and paper I thought to myself, am I old time do people actually use pen and paper or is it also an Evernote and stuff? Are you sort of technological with
Therese Skelly [3:28]
no no, I call myself a technical toddler So yeah, I don’t even Evernote to me scares me so I actually use I use pen and paper I have like all these like little notes. You should see my desk. Oh good. God, there’s just notes everywhere. So yeah, people use pen and paper so see you are you’re channelling.
David Ralph [3:45]
I’m channelling. I’m straight in there. Because one of the things that and I’m going to come to later, but it’s it’s about how powerful it is to actually write things down and bright. People don’t do that do like they kind of store in their head. They put it on their email by They do all sorts of technological stuff. But actually the most powerful things I’ve done in my life is when I’ve actually written it down because it kind of it commits it, there’s an effort to writing it down. And I’ve got bits of paper all around me with things about I’m, I’m aiming to earn per month and things I’m trying to achieve on the show. And I look at them all the time. And because of my scribbled handwriting, I can’t ignore them is it was my own personal commitment to the task. Do you feel that as well?
Therese Skelly [4:28]
Yeah. And you know, what happens for me is if you ever put things like in a Word doc or spreadsheets, they’re filed somewhere so they’re not in your visual field and like you, I’m looking at my monthly income goal, it’s on my walls. I got my affirmations on my wall so I can see it and it really starts to programme your subconscious. So it’s kind of like a subliminal way to like, Oh, that’s right. I’m supposed to bring that my Oh, yeah, that’s right. That’s right. That’s right. So kinda like watering the garden If you can not only write it, but put it where you can see it. I do that a lot.
David Ralph [4:55]
So let’s talk about your life generally, and then we’re going to come back to those because There is a blueprint to success sesor you you’ve kind of nailed it in many ways. And when I was reading the introduction, I was thinking, this is really one of those episodes that will go down in history. I’m sure it will because there’s, there’s a studious approach to what you’ve done, but it’s interlinked with faith and belief and hard work and hustle as well which which is perfect to to make a success of your life. But you are based in Scottsdale, Arizona,
Therese Skelly [5:25]
Arizona. Yeah. So while the rest of the United States you know, the east part of the United States is like buried in snow, it’s 80 degrees here. So it’s like fabulous right now. It’s fabulous in the summertime not so much for right now. It’s lovely.
David Ralph [5:37]
I had a lovely time in Scottsdale when I was here. I won’t be there many times. I’ve Arizona is one of those lovely places where I’ve been through in November, and it was like a lovely spring day. I’ve been through in the summer. And I have quite honestly leapt from one air conditioned vehicle to another because it’s like skin graft, isn’t it. I spent
Unknown Speaker [6:00]
Hell, that’s the personal
David Ralph [6:02]
off the nuni new Martino uma.
Therese Skelly [6:06]
That’s the armpit that is the armpit of the state. I must say no disrespect to the human listeners. But yeah, that’s not that’s not that’s not a tourist destination is you don’t go to hang out and you have a great
David Ralph [6:18]
Well, I my mind Mike said to me when we were there and apologies if anyone lives in Yuma because I understand that you’re in his book of records for the sunniest place on earth or something so good on you. And we were there and we were walking along the street by the McDonalds in Yuma. And he said to me is this this is so hot, it’s just not funny. And I hit back with see you’ve got no sense of humour. Is that not the best human joke you’ve ever heard in your life?
Therese Skelly [6:46]
Well, I think you can do better but anyway.
David Ralph [6:49]
We started off so well.
Therese Skelly [6:51]
I know. Sorry. Like the bar is high. David. I’m sorry. The bar is really high. I thought
David Ralph [6:55]
that was good. I’ve been dining out on that chair joke for years. No sense of humour.
Therese Skelly [7:01]
No you do it’s just you know, I live here so you know, I’m used to human jokes and so I guess that’s why I’m desensitised. That’s it
David Ralph [7:09]
so So when did you start from? Are you an Arizona Lady of you
Therese Skelly [7:15]
know, I think I’m the only human I’m I’m in my 50s and then they probably the only like the last remaining person that has never moved out of her hometown so I did go to graduate school in a city two hours north of Phoenix, which is called Flagstaff. But I move back after nine months and I I I’ve lived here my whole life
David Ralph [7:34]
and easy place but you love because I understand that the tax is very good. If you go to California, it’s like a killer but you come to Arizona and it is great, potentially, which is very entrepreneurial, isn’t it?
Therese Skelly [7:45]
Yeah, it’s that’s not why I think I just have like all my family’s here and, you know, my kids are here, their dad is here. And, and so I kind of have tap roots here, very deep roots. Personally, I’m not a really big fan of the desert and cactus. It’s got its own beauty, but If I could relocate, I’d put myself on a beach somewhere, you know, so I way prefer to be an ocean, but it is what it is, you know? So here I am.
David Ralph [8:07]
Well, you are and you are happy, you can hear you. Yeah, thank you. And when I was looking at your website that you know, the tagline on a whole website is called Happy in business. And I’ve come through to corporate land, where kind of happy in business doesn’t make you’re not supposed to be happy in business, you’re supposed to go to work and be serious and, and be responsible and all those kind of things. Is that an old principle? Now? Do you think more and more people are looking for what you’ve got and what you can show them to actually yeah, earn money, but actually enjoy it at the same time?
Therese Skelly [8:46]
Oh, this is such a big conversation. So I think a lot of people will I work with entrepreneurs who sell themselves there they are the service right? So if there’s a market it’s not like I’m you know, it’s not like we’re selling screwdrivers. Shoes, the people that I work with, they are the providers. So they, their gift is what they’re selling. And it’s very different when you’re in the corporate world. You know, it’s it’s, you’re plugged in, you’re a cog you you you go to work and people tell you what to do. But it feels like David, there’s been really a tipping point, there’s been so many more and particularly women in the workplace, starting their own businesses. And I think when women first started, we did it like men, you know, we took on the well, more is better. You just work 12 hour days, you bust your ass, you just push, push, push, push, push, and there’s real and I did that myself as well. Then there’s a breakdown and there’s like, Oh, wait, we’re not wired that way. Like that does not work very well for women. We can do it. It does not work well for our dreams for our energy. And so I really there’s it’s like the promise my promise is you can make money doing what you love. Like that’s my promise a stand on that. And now I think after the industrial era in the 50s and 60s and the you know, the people that sold their souls for jobs that gave them pension. I think we’re waking up going bullshit. Like, wait a minute, if I’m going to spend my time I better be nourishing and fulfilling. Now me figure out that how I don’t know how that is. But Hmm. So there’s a whole new level of permission that is present, which is really cool. It’s so cool. Is it getting easier though? Because
David Ralph [10:19]
I know about those words, you said, I buy into totally because I’m in that environment. But I know so many of my colleagues are still in the ingrained kind of mindset that I was in for many, many years. But no, no, you can’t have fun. You can’t that’s not what work is all about. Yeah. Is it getting easier to sort of change that mindset of people on the cusp already?
Therese Skelly [10:42]
I think it’s getting easier. I think, again, there’s there’s there is much more permission. Now. I do work with a lot of people that have been from the corporate world. I personally wasn’t I can. Can you? Are you surprised that I couldn’t follow the rules? Oh, no, no, no, I kind of had to be in my own business for a really long time.
David Ralph [11:00]
I’m shocked and
Therese Skelly [11:03]
shocking. So I didn’t come out of a corporate structure. But my clients that do they sit, they have to unlearn. They have to get a client that she say, I feel so guilty, but my best working hours are at two in the morning, but I should work nine to five. And I’d say why you own your own business? Why can’t you work at two in the morning? If you’re doing writing? Why does it have to be nine to five and you get up and you put your clothes on? Like, why don’t you make it work for you? And so, so I actually have to with people that have come from the corporate structure like deprogram, I have to, you know, remove the cult thinking that says, it has to be a certain way and say, What would you love? And it’s crazy. It’s almost like, we’re almost like little kids going, really? I could have that like, really, it’s so it’s okay, if you really like it. I mean, it’s still it’s still not the complete norm. Because there’s a lot of people that choose the value of security, they would sell their soul to have a pension and some vacation and that’s, they don’t care what they do. They don’t care what the cost is. But then there’s those of us are like, Oh, hell no, we’re freedom lovers, right? It’s so it’s, it’s worth putting the time it’s worth, like finding the territory and finding a mentor so we can get that freedom is so important to our souls, you know. So I think there’s an upswing in that, that energy, but so many people
David Ralph [12:17]
want Well, I think everyone wants that don’t if you lined everybody up and you said to them that if I touched you on the shoulder, you can have the money that you want, you can be happy and had time freedom, no one’s going to put their hands over their shoulders to protect themselves. That’s what I want. But the key thing to it is the actual belief that is one whiskey and the other is the entrepreneurial route whiskey, or is it going to the corporate gig where you could do 30 years and suddenly somebody else touches you on the shoulder and says terez That’s it. Farewell and and away you go. So what you think nowadays being absolutely honest, and it’s not just to the listeners, from your heart, what do you think? Too risky Joe Joyce nowadays?
Therese Skelly [13:04]
You know, years and years and years ago, I got bit by that entrepreneurial bug. And there is no other choice for me there is no I have literally crafted my life, David, where as I call it, I have burned all the ships. There’s no plan B, there’s no contingency, there’s no if this doesn’t work, then I will. So to me, there is no other choice. There is no other choice. And until you as a business owner, get that. It’s always it’s kind of seductive. It’s like It’s like the siren on the shore going, Oh, but I could have vacation. Oh, I would have weekends off anyway. You have to have a really big why you have to have you have to have it in your being like, why are you what you’re crazy to do this entrepreneurial stuff? It’s hard, and it’s more rewarding. So it’s kind of like I think there’s a certain breed if you are courageous and you’re willing to take risks and truthfully if You’re willing to do your personal work. jump in, if you like to be told what to do if you’re terrified of taking risks or making mistakes, don’t want to be a leader because I don’t know if you notice this ding ding ding. When you start your own business, when you’re an entrepreneur, you become a leader. And I didn’t even understand that. I’m like, really? what you’re doing?
David Ralph [14:21]
Because that seems obvious to me.
Unknown Speaker [14:23]
Because it wasn’t. No.
Therese Skelly [14:27]
I have no idea. I don’t know how I missed that one. I just thought I started as a as a therapist, right? So I just was like, I was a therapist, and I just was working with clients and blah, blah, blah, I didn’t occur to me because what is it therapist in my first business? I didn’t have a business out of therapy practice, you know, so a few clients would come in, I would see them and I go home and be a mom. And then when I like when that like the the soul call happened, you know, that moment of like, you know, do something else. And then I open to the possibility of that I’d be talking to a guy in the UK and 3 million people would listen to me. I never thought of that before didn’t mean I didn’t understand the scope of my message and the scope of what was possible in the virtual world and the transformation that is absolutely possible. With this info informational age when I no idea I was asleep, in my mind, I was thinking small, I was seen a few clients say to me, so I think, at least for me, I had to grow into the magnitude and the capacity and like, why was because So today, it’s my goal to reach millions, millions. But at the time, I, you know, I wanted to talk to 12 people either they waited so I think, I think it didn’t occur to me what what was really on the line, basically,
David Ralph [15:37]
I think that burning the boats, we call it burning bridges. But I think that is great, because I have burned all my bridges. I could not go back to work for somebody anymore. I just couldn’t work. And I’m totally unemployable. And I’ve said it many times, but if the show doesn’t work, I haven’t got a plan B. It’s got to work. It’s got to Well, and some people say to me out, it doesn’t know why you and I go, No, actually, I now think that that’s a better way of doing it. Because when it gets hard, and the entrepreneurial journey is very hard and there’s times you actually think to yourself, is it worth it? an escape route would be the easy option and to be able to go Oh, I just found out my boss and get a job back. But when you get that feeling that the only way is forward, then dreams can happen coming. Absolutely.
Therese Skelly [16:29]
Yeah. And you know, I went through the I don’t know how much personal sharing you want here but I’ll dish some I went through I lost everything to make this happen.
David Ralph [16:39]
literally everything so totally, you know what I
Therese Skelly [16:42]
mean? I still I still my clothing But no, you know, what end up happening is I got a divorce, and I left the marriage with kind of a boatload of money but more importantly, I left the marriage feeling like a little Cinderella, right. So here I was, I thought it was I was really, really a feminist. You know, I was really the strong one and my Marriage and, and he made all the money but I made all the decisions I ran the house I had to look so I had to self self image that I was like I’m a kick ass woman, I’m so strong. But I left the marriage had a bunch of money, he was paying him a nice amount of alimony. And what was funny is see this is the personal growth I’m just sharing because I think it’s really important to you don’t just start and then go boom, here you have a six figure business, what happens is you start and then you have to look at yourself so deeply have to work on all the parts that are not resonant are not congruent or not in leadership or not strong it and then get to do the work on those right so so I leave married. About a year later, my older son was 12 and we’re driving by in Scottsdale, there’s this kind of high end area and is the spa Racquet Club place and I was driving with my 12 year old and said, Hey, Danny, you know what, maybe if I get married again, my next husband will have enough money and then we can kid. Yeah, you’re already hearing it right? We could. We could. We could be members there and he looks me like I had two heads anyone or Mom, why don’t you just make the money? And David, it was like, Oh my god, there’s a Cinderella living in me. I had no idea. So I literally had to go to therapy. I was so troubled, like, what would happen for me is I had bought in to these believes that men make money women don’t like I had I had I, I drank the kool aid of the 50s and 60s basically that this was a woman’s role. And this is a man’s role and I had it so ingrained unconsciously. So because of all that, and then the economy tanking. You know, back in those days, I, you know, my business, you know, the money dropped out, the x stopped paying, the economy tanked. And so I was faced with I had I lost my home, you know, head to head let him go to foreclosure let the beloved sports car got repossessed without bankruptcy. And what was so fascinating is because I’m not employable as well, you know, I’m just like, You like good god, I can barely volunteer in a Church Committee. And so, so I would lay in bed at night so terrified because I have no money coming in or not much and i i everything’s sinking and sinking and sinking and it’s as if there was like this battle. And there was a part of me this little girl and me this little scared female that was like, Who’s gonna save me? And it pissed me off. Like, it was like, so disgusting. You know that that was living in me, but it was, you know, to be honest, that part of me I’m like, ah, who’s gonna help me? Somebody’s gonna help me crap. I can’t What? Because I knew I could never get a job. I knew I could. There was no, I had let my therapy licence go I there was no place that would hire me. It a six figure salary, with what I could do and I, so I’d lay there at night, be terrified. And then that other part, that entrepreneurial part that said get up, just get up. And I’m like, get up. It was like, I would leave it like four months. I was so traumatised, with the little me like help out and that entrepreneurial part. That’s just like Want to shut up? Just shut up and get up? Shut up, you’re doing this there is no other option. And so it was really like catalysed for me like, already then I’m on it. So it was it was it was kind of a fight but the entrepreneurial part one,
David Ralph [20:15]
listen to these words this is tie up to how you were thinking at this time
Unknown Speaker [20:19]
you, me or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much you can take it keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done.
David Ralph [20:35]
That seems perfect the way you were at that time.
Therese Skelly [20:38]
Yeah, when I remember. I remember like, actually my brother
said, I’ll give you a job. You can do a little bit of my marketing and I’ll pay you $20 an hour. And I was like shove it up your ass. I mean, I’m sorry. You know what I mean? I don’t mean to be sassy like I do. But it was just like really $20 an hour. I make hundreds of dollars an hour doing what I do and you’re going to pay me No, no, I was so offended. And all these people were saying, just get a job, get a job, get a job. And there’s a part of me it’s like I should be willing to get a job. But the other part said no, this is your perfect path. And you just keep going and you keep going. And I will tell you like my lowest month, I think I brought in like 700 bucks. Like 20 months later, I had my biggest month at that point, I brought in like $23,000 that month, and it was because I did not give up and I was willing to go through the fire like there really is a fire you have to let go of all the fear all the small thinking. I mean, it’s really like throwing yourself into the pool and just going okay, Oh, I got my little floaties my lot of water wings you know, so I know
David Ralph [21:40]
you a better person because of it. Those those dark times when you’re laying in bed and you’re you’re fearful for the future, as that now kind of set the foundations of Yeah, that was bad, but I moved on from that. Does it take you to the next level,
Therese Skelly [21:57]
just so couple things when you’ve lost a Everything was there’s I have this whole other awareness about money I think in the money system we’re trained to be good little girls and little boys and make sure we pay all our bills on time and you know make sure we don’t get a late charge and make sure oh good God our credit score you know like people get off freaky around their credit scores and and after I lost everything, there’s kind of something delightful David and freeing about being able to say bring it I got nothing to lose. Because we’re so afraid. Oh my gosh, what if I get a late fee? What if I what you know, it was really cool here. I love this story. So I about a year and a half after my bankruptcy. I always wanted like, my favourite car in the world. I wanted a Nissan Murano, right? I love those nice I’m around those. And I it’s like I googled, like, basically, how do you get a car loan after a bankruptcy? Like you’re gonna be like, taking me to the loser site. We’re absolutely like, you know, to me, please give me some credit because I messed up. And so I walked So I did that and they put in They still like like a bunch of dealerships said oh hey you know you you’re you’re you’re a bankruptcy loser come on to our place will give you you know alone I walk around the place they’re lovely to me and I say here’s what I want I can make payments about about this month I want a dark a dark colour and I wanted SCV and he points and he says I have one black nice on Toronto would you like that one? I could cry right now because it was like oh my god 18 months later after after I was so afraid like wow if I felt bankruptcy My life is over. I am driving the car my dreams and they had one that one car and it was in my price range. And they they they the interest rates are fine. It’s like thank you see, but I think we get so afraid of if I do this then I’ll never recover or or people think I’m like tarnished it I’m tarnish I’ll walk around with the Scarlet you know loser on my forehead and
David Ralph [23:52]
what you did. You you it wasn’t faith was it you created a plan you decided what you wanted. You googled it. So you You had a vision of what you wanted, and you worked out how much you could pay. And you, you, you did it. And, and everyone can do that can’t be everyone could go right? This is the job that I want. And then this show isn’t about the entrepreneurial leap in any shape or form. I always say this, but it is about being happy. And if you are in a crappy job that you don’t live and get out of it, get out of it and do something else. And but people kind of don’t baby don’t plan. They don’t look at it. And they hear these stories. And I think that it’s all about just leaping and making it up as you go along. But there’s there’s so much to it isn’t there. There’s so much fear, there’s so much struggle, there’s so much, you know, sitting there with spreadsheets in front of you trying to work out how you’re going to pay the next bills. That is actually the true journey. It isn’t the fact that the leap just happens. It’s like a leap and then you just flap your arms furiously forever in a day until somebody holds on to a wrist.
Therese Skelly [24:59]
Yeah, you will have to leave. That’s the first step you have to leave. But you know, it was fascinating is so had my car and about, I don’t know, two years, two years later so last year probably or however I don’t know the dates, but last year I think it was cleaning out my closet. I was calling it my office closet. And I came across a picture of a Nissan maronna. And back in like 2008 or nine I was working with a coach. Yeah, she goes, what kind of car would you like? And I said, I love those models. She goes cut it out and put it on a vision board. Well, I didn’t put on a vision board I stuffed in my closet. And so when I cleaned it, I was like, Oh my god, I got that car. I was like so cool. So again, how we talked earlier, you know, create the visual, like the goals visually that I’m a huge fan. I’m a huge, huge, huge fan
David Ralph [25:45]
of Katy Perry pictures and I’m not sure it’s gonna happen for me.
Unknown Speaker [25:51]
David Ralph [25:53]
She’s just teasing. teasing me. That’s the problem.
Unknown Speaker [25:57]
Women teasing you today. What’s the deal? Well that
David Ralph [26:00]
I’m not the I’m feeling weak today. I’m not feeling well, I’m not as strong and manly as I normally Yeah, you can push me wherever you want. So
Unknown Speaker [26:10]
when you did this
David Ralph [26:11]
thing, this is the bit that I think so many people struggle with. It sounds like you didn’t know what you wanted, but then you didn’t know what you wanted overnight. But that’s not the case is that you, you kind of start working towards something. And while you’re working, you look around, and then every now and again, something comes up and you think, Oh, yeah, I could do that. Or I could do that. How long did it take from you being a counsellor to actually being who you are now?
Therese Skelly [26:38]
Yeah, that’s a great question. So, you know, it really is I am very guided by my intuition. And so you either will have like an intuitive thought, or like that energy I it’s like energy pulls us in a direction or you’ll keep hearing something over and over and somebody’s like, Huh, so I was a therapist, and then I got this. I’m kind of like, you know, I could go Life Coaching school. So mental life coaching school, and for a while, I did them both together, you know, so one hour I was a coach and actually I was a therapist that truthfully, you know, here’s the secret they weren’t all that much difference innovated so so that isn’t like I went from a plumber to being a coach or you know, so so it was it was not a big deal. But one day, I saw an ad for business coaches one and that was the one that was like what cuz we didn’t tell you didn’t read in my bio, maybe didn’t tell you. I have a criminal justice undergraduate degree. So I actually worked in a prison and psychiatric hospital. So I don’t know what being a counsellor working in a prison working with drug addicts and working with crazy mental patients has to do with making me think I’d be a good business coach.
Unknown Speaker [27:45]
But I said yes,
David Ralph [27:46]
I think you covered a lot really.
Unknown Speaker [27:49]
It might be perfect.
David Ralph [27:52]
As long as you can find someone to teach you to play the mouth organ, so when you enter into prison, you’re salted as well.
Therese Skelly [27:58]
There we go. But so so For me, it was. See, I think there’s a difference between doing what’s logical and then doing what’s what you’re guided to do. Because if I would have followed logic, nothing logically would have said that I should have been a business coach and that they’re just I’ve never read a business book. I’ve never been to a networking group I, I didn’t come from the corporate world, right? And so on paper me saying, yes, that decision was crazy. But here’s what I know when you say yes, to whatever it is. You don’t have to be 17 miles out, you just go What’s the next tiny step? What’s the next tiny step? And so when you say how long it’s taken me so I actually was I start first was a business coach probably about nine years ago, about nine years ago. But I worked for other coaches, I worked on other people’s companies. So I first kind of hung out my shingle of like, I’m on my own. I’m on Facebook, and you know, once you’re on Facebook, like then you’re real, right? So I got on Facebook in 2008. So I’ve been here a while. And it’s just it just evolves over and over and over and over and it gets deeper and deeper. I have a client that says it feels like I’m building the plane as I fly it. And that’s the entrepreneurial thing, right? Because you want the whole plan if you want from A to Z. And if you want the script, don’t just stay with your job, because it’s a lot harder.
David Ralph [29:21]
Like a chess game, you know, to sort of masters a chess game, and probably five steps ahead. And the really good players are three steps ahead. I think that when you are in that entrepreneurial position, you’re taking your move, but you’re already thinking what the next movies and Ben is something that’s third move, there’s that third move, but you kind of start thinking, Oh, I hadn’t thought about that. But if I do this, maybe maybe that might be the direction that I should be going in.
Therese Skelly [29:49]
But the nice part though, is we don’t have to know the 12th move, and Saturday’s moves. But I think that’s where people get held back, David because what they’ll do is say, I’ve got this great idea and then they go bye Don’t know how so I never mind or even if you’re if you’re at a job, you know, lots of people either want to start a side business or want to make a transition plan, but because they’re not 100% clear and don’t have every single thing mapped out, they go, well, nevermind. So it’s like, just start like that’s, that’s the essence of this. Just start just start. Take a step and then you’ll see Oh, okay, Brian, from this vantage point. Oh, those two steps. Okay, cool when you’re going over there, like, now I go over there. But so
David Ralph [30:25]
I had a lady on the show episode eight called Pamela slim. And I think she comes from the Arizona area. And she was telling me about when people need to start, they can’t look at the big picture. They just have to look at the next step. And really break it down into stupid steps like, turn on a computer, sit at your desk, get yourself a cup of coffee. And once you’ve done about four or five of those, you start to think Actually, I’ll add another five on and I had another five on. It’s when you sit there and you look into the future, and I’m Play some words, I emphasise it better than what I can. Okay. Okay, this is Oprah Winfrey,
Unknown Speaker [31:04]
the way through the challenge is to get still and ask yourself, what is the next right move? not think about, Oh, I got all of this stuff. What is the next right move? And then from that space, make the next right move, and the next right move, and not to be overwhelmed by it. Because, you know, your life is bigger than that one moment. You know, you’re not defined by what somebody says, is a failure for you. Because failure is just there to point you in a different direction.
David Ralph [31:36]
Now, that’s why she’s Oprah. She knows how to say it. But
Therese Skelly [31:40]
can I say I’m sharing the stage with Oprah today.
David Ralph [31:43]
You can say you’re sharing the stage with whoever you want, and I will bring them into the mix. This is like a drone vision. George Clooney in here. How coming George? He can be blue as well.
Therese Skelly [31:54]
We’re good. How about you take Katie and I’ll take Russell How’s that? Well, nevermind. Anyway, go ahead.
David Ralph [32:00]
where’s where’s Russell suddenly come into Brad Russell. I love ex husband, ex husband. He grew up just up the road from me. He’s got he’s got the same accent. Basically accent Yeah. If you can understand me, you can understand him. But is that true what Oprah saying Do you think but it is literally own even next step you’ve got to think about if you think about why I want to get a new job in a bank, for example. Do you go right? Okay, what’s the first thing I need to do? What I need to do my resume? I need to get that done. Okay, let’s do that. Then what’s the next thing? Is it just that series of steps that people need to focus on?
Therese Skelly [32:39]
Yeah, seeing what happens is I work a lot with the unconscious is you know, and there’s a thing called our ego and our ego is that little part of us that tries to keep us small or safe, basically. And the ego will say, Oh, you couldn’t do that because you’re not enough and you know, and the ego, the ego is tied into the how. So let’s say you want to get it job. So the ego would say, well, you probably don’t know how to do that and you’re not probably if he would hire you or you know, you could never make that much so the ego is that little voice in our head, but if you just go Okay, so here’s what I’d say is how do you want your new job to feel before you even do a resume? How do you want to feel on your job? Because it’s cool to do the resume Yeah, whatever. But but that’s not creating from the inside that’s like throwing stuff again. That’s like throwing spaghetti against the wall right? But better what why do you want a new job? How would you like to feel you want to feel valued and appreciated? Do you want to feel respected, you want to walk in and be happy like, start there? I was working my people start there on how you want to experience your day that’s creating your life. And so maybe you can’t yet get a job but you agreed that wherever you are, so if you want to feel respected on your in your job, start respecting your colleagues more start respecting your it see To me it’s not like, I have to do it, then I’d have to wait till then you can really live into your future right now. That was pretty profound. We should have music or something for that one yeah
David Ralph [34:04]
yeah I’m gonna create a fail no I don’t want to go there but that gets into racy talking again so well because your your brand is happy and business was there a time that you was actually unhappy in business building the happy and business brand was at times when it seemed too much for you
Therese Skelly [34:23]
and Allison that two ways I’m so convicted like like you I cannot employable I was seriously seriously so there wasn’t in the burn the ships got burned a long time ago side there’s no there was no going backwards. So even the worst days of this business is better than the other option. So Have there been unhappy times? Heck yeah. When I was struggling when I couldn’t get clients in the door back in the you know, 2010 Oh, yeah. But another time that David when I was unhappy my business I referenced earlier trying to do it like a man, you know, and for me, that meant overworking, that meant just burning it because you Know when you have a nine to five job there are some some boundaries you actually have to leave your office or, you know, your your work. There’s nobody working on the weekend. So you generally have a life but if you have an entrepreneurial passion, you know, I used to have my business meetings with my team, we’d be Skyping at midnight like crazy weirdos like Skyping you know, having, you know, ones in ewtodd was in Alaska, and we’re cranking out at frickin midnight because there’s no boundaries, right and so, so the first time I hit six figures, I I remember I did a launch I sold this programme, and I hung up you know, and like yeah, it went really well and I called my marketing manager at the time in tears and I just said I have built this beast and I hate it it’s like it’s take I’m it’s a little bit I’m exhausted, my guy is horrible. It’s taking everything and so I I had to just let it go and say stop and so now I run my business by what am i energise doing and I don’t just throw stuff up to make money and I don’t just take on clients because they need a few bucks. I literally sit and it’s like that, would that make me happy? Would that feel energised? Or is that just something to get some dollars in the door and I don’t do that anymore. So we call it, you know, running that in the more feminine model like waiting for inspiration, energy, you know. So that’s how I do it.
David Ralph [36:16]
Because when I started this job here, and it is a job, but in many ways, it’s just fun, fun, fun, but in other words, it’s a job. But when I started it, I wrote a list of my key values. And my key values. I look at them all the time because there are opportunities that come to you. But you can quite quickly make a lot of money. And I remember reading the Tim Ferriss four hour workweek. And the thing that he was saying was everything you do in a business, make sure that you can step away from it and it still operates. And so I listened to that and I thought to myself all the way through, can I leave this behind? Now the only restraint I’ve got of this role really is speaking to them. microphone, I have to be there. When we set up an interview, I have to release seven days a week, blah, blah, blah. But everything else, if it comes to me, and I think what side of the door Am I going to be on? After I accept this? It’s not going to happen? And is that a stupid way of starting a business? Should you just clamour for money? Or should you go that way? Which will? Which way? Do you think?
Unknown Speaker [37:22]
Therese Skelly [37:25]
I think I again, I work with a lot of people that sell their services. And so in the beginning, I want you to get a bunch of experience. And I want you to, I’d rather you test your stuff with people that aren’t your perfect clients, right? Because in the beginning, nobody really you know, nobody comes in with a blueprint. Nobody’s fully equipped. They’re like, I don’t know, I want to do something I don’t really and so I’m like, sure, cool, test it out. And so I say test it in the beginning, and the more you do the work, the more you will clarify. I always say the work informs itself, you know, after 20 clients or 20 different people, you’re like, Oh, I like them. I don’t Like me today mean so and in a trip like Tim Ferriss god bless them I really like I I am my business and I truthfully haven’t figured away because I love this and I’m I’m kind of the magic you didn’t mean and I’m guess I could train a bunch of little mini me’s but I bet that doesn’t interest me right now you know, I want my hands in the mix. So, yes, it’s a blend, think David is a blend it’s like Do what you can do in the beginning just to get money coming in the door because it’s really disheartening if you sit and try and try and you’re not selling anything. So just make stuff up. It’s worth it. Just go sell something. And I know I’m being it sounds a little facetious. But I think we get so freaky about it’s got to be the perfect thing and it’s got to have like a just sell something, you’ll be fine tested. I’m a big believer in testing things. And then you’ll know what you love and what you don’t. And so it’s kind of the longer you do it, the more narrow your offerings get, and the more clear you are, but I don’t think anybody starts out super clear and focused.
David Ralph [38:58]
I don’t think anyone does it. All right. Was likened it to being in a shower cubicle, but is steaming up because I’m having a very long shower. And every now and again I’m rub the glass and I can see my future. And then it folks up in front of me. And there’s moments where you’ve got total clarity and you kind of think, duh, how could I not say that? This is so obvious. And we’re back four days later, you kind of think, Oh, I remember thinking this thing that it seems so clear. I can’t quite remember why it seems so clear then. And you don’t do you but little by little, it’s the experience that builds up, you look over your shoulder and you see the momentum that the journey that you’ve taken. And it’s the same with every single person I speak to, not one of them, knows what they’re doing when they start. Exactly, and I love it now.
Therese Skelly [39:45]
Then here’s what happens though, because I’ve been doing this years and I’m in a period right now of a huge growth period. And the things that used to light me up the things that I used to sell last year that sold I’m like a Cool, but I don’t think it’s I don’t think it’s it’s right right now in an amine. So I think that’s also what happens is, it’s like you’re going to evolve. So you’ll do something for a year and you’ll love it and you’ll master it. And then you’ll get another idea, or you’ll get an expanded version of that. And so, when I say is you can’t just with your business or even your life, like set it and forget it. It’s not like, okay, I built a website in 2000. And for good enough, right? No, it’s, you’re always, if I mean, look at nature, you know, like, things die, things are bored. I mean, that’s how we are, we’re really like, we’re always expanding and you have to just live in and accept, like, okay, there’s gonna be periods when you’re super crystal clear, and you’re just banging and stuff out. And then you’re going to be like, hmm, I’m not sure what I’m doing right now. And you know, so that’s also normal. You know, it’s not like you’ve reached the pinnacle, and it stays there.
David Ralph [40:50]
Did you know I think I’m gonna play all my speeches in the show because you professional, you lead me to the point. This is Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey [40:59]
my father. Could’ve been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [41:26]
So how do you know how do you know that you love something? And how do you know that it just it looks like you’re gonna love something until you actually into it?
Therese Skelly [41:36]
Yeah, you know, I? That’s a great question. And some people David sadly, like, I just got an email from a client of mine today. And he said, Oh, I wish I could write you a testimonial that I made a bunch of money. Now he’s feeling like he’s a failure because his measure of success is money. Yet I can look at his life and I can see so much transformation his everything is so much better in his life. But He’s fixated on because he didn’t make the money. I’m sorry, I, I, I’m your first client that ever failed. And I’m like, dude, oh, no, no, no, no, no. So I think that’s part of it is like, one of the things I always tell my clients is, what are you measuring? If you’re measuring money in the bank, you know, you might not make that make that. Why not measure something? Like, am I happier? You know, am I are my relationships better? Do I feel more fulfilled? Am I more common? You know, so? So just that was? I don’t know, I thought to tell you that, but that was an important.
David Ralph [42:31]
It is an important point, isn’t it? Because he’s benchmarking. He’s success. Not on he’s improvement, not on keys, knowledge curve, or wherever you want to call it. He’s just saying, where’s the bank account, but there’s so much that you need to go through to get to that point. And when you do get to that point, then money comes very, very easily and you kind of almost think, why why why was it so hard? Why was it so hard? And it’s, you know, I was looking on your website is quite interesting because you’ve got the, the eliminating money blocks, the five part video series. And if anyone’s listening to this, go over to the website we’re having on the show links happy in business and sign up to get instant access. Because I know myself, I have money blocks, even now. And at the beginning, I had huge money blocks. But just before I started recording, I, my wife was having a nails done, and there was this lady doing it. She comes every two weeks. I don’t know why my wife needs her nails done every two weeks. But anyhow, she does. And she was talking about different things. And I suddenly realised that we went to the same school as each other. And so she started banding names about Do you know this person? Do you know about a person and we’re talking about 35 years ago now? And I was saying no, I don’t know. I don’t and then she hit on a name. And I went Oh, yeah, I remember him. And she went, yeah, he’s a multi multi millionaire now. And I for a moment I thought How the hell did that happen? He was an idiot. I remember being in school. He was at idea how has he become a multi multi millionaire? And I realised when I said it, but I’ve got these kind of mental blocks as well. I look at other people, and I go, yeah, they shouldn’t be in that position. Yeah. But he obviously is because he’s made wise decisions, or he’s taken opportunities or whatever and good luck to him. So I salute you from afar. I still don’t know how you’ve done it, but still good on you. So this this mindset, these these blocks, it’s very hard to escape from them, isn’t it?
Therese Skelly [44:29]
You know, that’s the crazy part. Because mostly they’re unconscious. like nobody, I always say nobody wakes up and says, you know, it’s Thursday, I think I’m going to sabotage my life today. I think I’ll push money away and oh, gosh, I’ll kill any relationships I could possibly have and I’ll just really mess up my you know, we don’t do that consciously. And so when you referenced earlier, like, how is it you know, how is it that people like know what they love to do, David, what happens and this is fascinating is we I don’t know how I don’t know across the pond. What the rule is, but I think it’s probably the same way. We have this thing of like, if it’s easy, it’s suspect. And so I have a conversation that I’d say is your brilliance probably is living in your blind spot. But most of us have the, you know, it should be hard. We got to work for it. We still have that. Like, it’s really valuable. No pain, no gain, you know, blood, sweat and tears. And yet if you do something that like for me speaking, teaching, oh, I could do this all day. It’s so easy. And other people could look at me and say, Oh my god, how do you do that? How do you and I’m like, What? This plan Oh, it’s easy. Now today, I own it. But back in the day, I’m kind of like the crazy ninja with mindset. Like seriously, I’m like, spooky, spooky. I go, boom, they’re gone. Okay, right. And but I used to think, Oh, I was only a therapist, like, what do I know? Like, who would hire me I was just a therapist. So we always do value that’s an ego piece. We always devalue ourselves in whatever whatever we’re good at. Because we think it should be hard and we think everybody either who needs it or who would pay for it like, who would pay to have their money mindset blocks removed Good God
David Ralph [46:12]
to have a man just chatting to someone seven days a week. Oh, up anyone can do this
Therese Skelly [46:18]
bit. Yeah. So that’s the problem is that’s how it’s so insidious. It’s like those little voices in our heads. And actually, I’m going to be doing a class next week about little, you know, the little voices in your head and how to manage them. Because it’s so that that’s the part that’s the mastery, because I could give you a blueprint. I could give you a marketing plan. I could tell you, here’s what to do. Here’s the steps. Here’s how you grow your business. And some people make it most people don’t until they can manage that little voice part that that mastery part is, you know, you’ve probably done it yourself too. Right.
David Ralph [46:49]
But the beautiful thing about that little voice is, yes, it’s very negative, but it also knows the way as well and that that’s what Oprah was saying when you just sit back Why I have a little moment in the shower every morning. And I just let the water float over me. And I just kind of try not to think of anything. And more often than not, I have a good idea. And it’s only one I don’t generally get loads of them. Because once I actually start into life, you’re just busy and things just fill up your mind. But that that little bit, I’ve kind of trained myself just to be in the shower and being right, open myself up to whatever’s there. And I’ve had some belters this week, but I kind of think, okay, that’s what I’m going to do now. And it’s almost I’ve got to hold him back because I know, that’s the future. That’s, that’s where I need to work. That’s not where I should be at the moment. But that’s a good idea. And some of them I put in plan very quickly. And I’ve contacted people and I’ve said, Look, I’ve had this idea. It’s going to be like six months down the line. What do you think and they’ve gone Yes, love it. When you want to start like I Well, I’m not ready yet, but I just want you to sort sense check it. So the little voice doesn’t own away but it is, is a killer as well. Isn’t it?
Therese Skelly [48:00]
Well hold on No, I, there’s a distinction, okay? Your voice that you got the ideas, that’s from like, whatever you want to call it, if you want to call it guidance, your soul, your higher self wisdom, you know that that part that is showing you the way and giving you if it feels good if it feels like it’s moving you forward, it’s right. The little voices I’m talking about would be you’d have an idea and a second voice would go, but you really you’re too stupid to do that. Why would anybody listen to you don’t call that guy. He’s the enemy. That’s that negative little voice. You know what? Listen that one.
David Ralph [48:36]
I enjoy, isn’t it?
Therese Skelly [48:38]
I call it like don’t dance with the devil. Yeah, don’t. But mostly what happens is mostly like you get that this you’re a perfect example here. You get an idea. It’s my clients, they get an idea. And they and they’re like, Awesome, cool. I have an idea. But then the the other little voice which the ego the unconscious, it’s keeping them small. We’ll talk them out of the idea or make them sabotage things. Or make it hard or you don’t know how to do it, that person is not going to hear me but a little a little, you know, on and on. And so they just sit and then they just check Facebook all day and they don’t move forward. So that’s the work I do is is, is mastering that part so you can listen to the truth and I call it with a capital T that hits you like this is your next step because that’s the truth when you sit quietly that’s the piece that comes out if you can quiet the other voice down.
David Ralph [49:25]
Yeah, because basically what I do I get this idea and I think this is a good idea. And then I throw it out to somebody who also believes in it and I’ve kind of nailed it to their mast and then my my negative boys can’t really do much about it because this other person is waiting for me to do and then you just kind of move forward with it because you think I’m gonna let them down and I think it’s a good idea. So even if I think it’s a stupid idea, let’s see what happens from it and more often than not, it’s a good idea. Really. Yes,
Therese Skelly [49:54]
you that’s a good strategy. One strategy is you out it even but you know, like you basically Commit, tell somebody else. And the key was somebody that believed in unit because a lot of people will say, Well, I told my husband this idea and he hated it. And I’ll say, well, so is he your ideal market? No, he doesn’t get about them. Like, I’m sorry, I don’t care if you’re sharing a bed, if he’s not your ideal market. If he doesn’t want the best for you in this, he does this he sent me the unconscious can either take you to the right place, and you get the idea expanded and birthed. Or it can take you to the dream stealers who say, That’s crazy. Why would you do that? You’ll go get a job. You know, what’s this with this radio show? You’re crazy. See what I mean? So you got to be anyway, and
David Ralph [50:35]
with the virtual world as well, all the people that are now things to I’ve never even met them that I’ve got. I’ve got one in Memphis, I’ve got one in Portland, Oregon. And I can Skype them and say no, I’ve had this idea. Once you think about this. It’s brilliant. I’ve never actually physically stood in the same room with these people or even been in the same country with him at the same time. And I love that fact because it’s not as personal. It’s not I’m gonna bump into him down the street, you basically, you lay on them and you turn off the computer and it kind of percolates in the virtual world. And when you turn on again, you’ve made a cake. If you can percolate a cake. Yeah. That’s why I keep out of the kitchen.
Therese Skelly [51:16]
Yeah, that was like the worst metaphor ever. But I got it. I was.
That was good. That was good.
David Ralph [51:22]
Is it better than a sense of humour? joke? Is it is it
Therese Skelly [51:26]
David Ralph [51:32]
So just before I send you back on in time on the Sermon on the mic, I’m going to play the words of the whole show is the theme of the whole show. And these are the words that Steve Jobs said back in 2005. And afterwards, I’m going to ask you the question that I like to ask every single person what is the big.in your life this is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [51:52]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear. looking backwards. 10 years later, again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [52:27]
So can you see the truth in those words?
Therese Skelly [52:30]
Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s beautiful.
David Ralph [52:34]
What’s your big dog when you look back in your life? And you go Yeah, that that was it. That was the moment when my life really started going in the direction that I wanted it to
Therese Skelly [52:45]
be dot was
when I answered an ad that said business coaches wanted and against all
Yes, any, any and any Saturday, I answered. That ad is I literally answered the call and David I can say that one phone call changed the complete trajectory of my life that one call boom i can i can
David Ralph [53:11]
do mine but that one
Therese Skelly [53:14]
yes and more so blows my because it was the first time that I did something that was wacky like again Why in the world would I think I had any right to be business coach that suited me so so it really showed me that I really believe that like we are guided we are LED we are we’re always you know moved on a journey and and if we let our minds run and if it’s got always be logical and makes sense. We miss it. And so it was the first time that I went okay, this is crazy as hell but okay, I’m just gonna throw my throw my name in you know, and and that like that was like that really taught me like, wow, sometimes it doesn’t have to make sense on the paper, but you just go where you’re supposed to go and then the rest is provided
David Ralph [53:58]
by coming on the show to raise whoever He was on the show before. And he’s one of the rare bunch is coming on twice. And he’s actually going through a kind of self development thing at the moment that he is going but everything that scares him and he’s written a list of things that terrify him, and he’s doing it and literally every day you wake, something’s wrong. What am I going to do today? Oh my God, I’ve got to do that today. And he’s doing it and he’s just ticking them off, ticking them off, ticking them off to see what he will be like at the end. Now that’s powerful in that
Therese Skelly [54:31]
that is powerful. God bless him God that is like I would never jump out of an aeroplane I don’t there’s got to be another way your enemy
David Ralph [54:39]
and I don’t see the point in that either. People say you know, jump out he hands I’ve never been on a plane that hasn’t landed. And he generally stuff on the planes that are going to land in the film so so get get on those planes. What’s the point?
Therese Skelly [54:55]
Yeah, but I applaud that and what he’s doing is he’s he’s blasting the fear blast. no limitations and that talk about freedom. Wow. When you can move through that and just just live through it, you will he will be different on the other side. That’s it. That’s a beautiful journey. Could you do that?
David Ralph [55:09]
Just before I send you back in Thomas asked about that. Could you do that? Could you write a list of everything that scares you and then systematically work through?
Therese Skelly [55:18]
You know, it’s funny, I, I, I’m good, like emotionally. I’m not afraid of anything emotionally. But I really, really, really, I think I would pee myself if I jumped out of a plane. So so there’s, there’s things that I’m like, I have no interest. I don’t need I don’t need that experience. And maybe so. So some things I could do some things. They’re absolute. Obviously not on the bucket list. Don’t need to do it. Nope. You didn’t mean so?
David Ralph [55:40]
Well, if we ever skydive, I’m gonna jump out first. I’m gonna make sure that P that flies upwards. It misses me.
Therese Skelly [55:47]
Yeah, I’ll be I’ll pass out and then I’ll pee. So I don’t
know. But I
David Ralph [55:52]
will everyone else will that be a stream across the sky. You’ll be like the British Red Devils. If you’ve ever seen them.
Therese Skelly [56:00]
I have not I’m assuming they don’t pee though. No,
David Ralph [56:04]
I don’t I generally do it whilst the queen is around so that’s not a good thing to
Unknown Speaker [56:08]
do. All right t right trick protocol. Yeah, red, white
David Ralph [56:11]
and blue. Well, this is the end of the show. And this is the part I recorded the Sermon on the mic when I send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the arteries, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, I’m gonna throw it down because I theme tune and when you
Unknown Speaker [56:27]
David Ralph [56:29]
I’m gonna play it I’m playing. Here it goes.
Unknown Speaker [56:37]
Here we go. With the best beer on the show.
Therese Skelly [56:57]
You know intuitively, I don’t know why but At the age seven came up to me and I don’t know why. So we’ll just follow my intuition. So we go to that one. And what I would just tell her is Honey, you have all that you need. You’re so talented, you’re so talented. And you don’t have to keep trying to prove yourself and just find people that believe in you just find those people and don’t worry about taking care of everybody and just it’s okay to shine it’s because really you shine really really really brightly and it’s okay to shine. Just let yourself shine.
David Ralph [57:34]
How can that audience connect with you to ease
Therese Skelly [57:38]
Well, thank you they should go to happy in business.com and like you say I have the the eliminating money blocks. freebie, freebie, it’s a five session video series. So just go there go to happy business calm and just grab the free gift. And and if you have any questions, you know, just just there’s a contact contact form there and or Facebook. I love Facebook. So I’m also on Facebook to reef Kelly. So feel free to reach out and find me there.
David Ralph [58:05]
We will have over links on the show notes to ease. Thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots and please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build a futures to be Skelly. Thank you so much.
Therese Skelly [58:21]
It’s been delightful. Thank you so much David had so much fun.
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