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Introducing Shawn Stevenson
Shawn Stevenson is todays guest on Join Up Dots podcast interview.
He is a man who seems to have cracked it big-time, and knows exactly what he was put on this planet to do.
And his mission is to make us the healthiest version of what we can be
Living an amazing life everyday too.
But unlike so many of our guests who have a childhood that was less than perfect, his life started in a very different way.
As Shawn Stevenson says in his own words
“I spent the first half of my childhood in a quiet suburban neighbourhood with all of the love and attention that a child could ask for.
I spent the second half of my childhood growing up in some of the most dangerous parts of the inner city.
Surrounded by gangs, drugs, alcohol, and violence on a daily basis.
I was able to gain so much from both environments, and I’m truly grateful for the life I’ve been given.
The situations I was in helped me cultivate perspective, resourcefulness, and (most importantly) the power of choice.
How The Dots Joined Up For Shawn Stevenson
However, it was in college that my entire world really changed.
Not because of the education I was receiving, but because of the devastating illness that I was diagnosed with at the age of 20.
Seemingly overnight I was in excruciating pain.
I lost a great deal of function in my leg, and I could barely get from room to room in my house, let alone get around on campus anymore.
Essentially, my spine was deteriorating far faster than it was supposed to. And according to my doctor at the time, I had the spine of an 80-year old person, even though I was just a young college kid.”
And that was just the start of what would become life mission.
Starting with getting himself healthy, he learnt so much that he could then share with the world.
How Shawns Business Has Flourished
Now being the founder of Advanced Integrative Health Alliance, a successful company that provides Wellness Services for both individuals and organizations worldwide.
Also a podcast host, and a dynamic keynote speaker life seems good…in fact very good.
So does he see people struggle in life as they haven’t had the good and the bad, so aren’t aware of what they can deal with?
And would he like to go back in time and change anything that has occurred whilst on this earth?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show, to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr Shawn Stevenson
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Shawn Stevenson as:
How the opportunities we have to be able to build connections across the globe, shouldn’t be more important than the ones with the people closest to us.
Why he recalls being to to fight as a child by his parents, and realises now what a gift he was given in a most peculiar example of parental love.
The number one driving force of human beings is staying congruent with the ideas that they hold for themselves.
How Shawn Stevenson remembers the first time that he got paid for his services….the grand sum of $7.00, and struggled to value his own worth in the transaction.
How his big dot in life was meeting his Mother in Law and realising that his life was going to be in the details. He needed to go deep and learn more than he thought possible.
How To Connect With Shawn Stevenson
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Full Transcription Of Shawn Stevenson Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello there, everybody, Episode 314 of Join Up Dots I’m loving today, I have done so many shows. And I feel like I’m sprinkled with Rocket Power, its energy overweight. And it’s not surprising really when I speak to these motivational go getters, and the kind of chat but I’m going to talk to now because I heard him actually on another podcast and I thought, Man, this is a guy I need to get onto my show because he seems to have cracked it big time and knows exactly what he was put on this planet to do. And his mission is to make a Is the healthiest version of what we can be and live an amazing life every day. But unlike so many of our guests who have a childhood that was less than perfect, he’s life started in a very different way. As he says in his own words, I spent the first half of my childhood in a quiet suburban neighbourhood, with all of the love and attention that a child could ask for. I spent the second half of my childhood growing up in some of the most dangerous parts of the inner city, surrounded by gangs, drugs, alcohol and violence on a daily basis, I was able to gain so much from both environments, and I’m truly grateful for the life I’ve been given the situations I was in helped me cultivate perspective, resourcefulness, and most importantly, the power of choice. However, it was in college that my entire world really changed not because of the education I was receiving, but because of the devastating illness I was diagnosed with at the age of 20. Seemingly overnight, I was in excruciating pain. I lost a great deal of function in my leg, and I could barely get from room to room in my house, let alone Don’t get around on campus anymore. Essentially, my spine was deteriorating far faster than it was supposed to. And according to my doctor at the time, I had the spine of an 80 year old person, even though I was just a young college kid. And that was just the start of what would become a life mission starting with getting himself healthy. He learned so much, but he could then share with the world and now being the founder of advanced Integrated Health Alliance, a successful company to provide wellness services for both individuals and organisations worldwide. podcast hosts and a dynamic keynote speaker life seems good In fact, very good. So does he see people struggling life as they haven’t had the good and the bad so aren’t aware of what they can deal with? And would you like to go back in time and change anything that has occurred whilst on is up? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up does with the one and only Mr. Shawn Stevenson. How are you sir?
Shawn Stevenson [2:54]
I’m doing excellent. David, thank you so much for having me on.
David Ralph [2:58]
It is great to have you on and I have to make it Clear over listeners, I generally write all the introductions. But when I went over to your page, that is basically your introduction. I took it because that is a story isn’t there? But that’s a very open and honest about page you’ve got, why did why did you feel that you had to lay it all out there?
Shawn Stevenson [3:20]
Wow, that’s a great question. You know, when I was doing it, I was really looking at the perspective of being as, as authentic and as in high integrity as I possibly can, you know, because what it really boils down to and how people connect with each other is being open and being vulnerable. Surprisingly enough, you know, we tend to hide a lot of things, but that that hiding from another person prevents you from having rapport, you know, so I just feel that if people know where I’m coming from, and know that I know what it’s like to be in a lot of the situations that they’ve been in, then automatically we have a connection, you know, so I just wanted to put that out there and allow for that connection to happen. Even before somebody hears a single word that I have to say
David Ralph [4:04]
it Did you think that is how life is going nowadays? It is this kind of the powerful, the perfect, but we used to see in maybe the 80s and the 90s. Is it now more powerful for us to say, hey, look, we’ve got flaws, we’ve got issues, but actually, we’ve learned how to work through them.
Shawn Stevenson [4:23]
Absolutely. Today, this environment that we live in today is really all about transparency. If you’re trying to hide something, if you got skeletons in your closet, you know, the internet, there’s this thing called the internet that is not going to allow that to stay that way for very long. You know, so the more transparent that you can be, the more of yourself that you share, the more that you’re going to be successful in this environment. And what I really feel is that we’re getting back to what’s more real about humanity and in a strange way, you know, we really evolved in situations where everybody didn’t know everybody and everybody knew what was going on in other people’s lives. You know, but then we get into This very dissected society to where you know, you’ve got your little Family Plot, and then there’s somebody else has a Family Plot, but we’re all next door, you know, and it started off as community at first, but then it starts to break away. And now we’re getting back to this in some strange way online where we’re building communities where we’re showing our authentic selves. And I hope that the next wave is going to be another return to having that happening more in person, you know, in communities and everybody getting connected face to face and not just through our through our iPhones.
David Ralph [5:33]
He’s a strange when you’re saying that obviously, I’m reflecting on your words because I live in a street I mean, the United Kingdom and we live in the street. And I have a semi detached, semi detached house so I don’t have any one joined on to me. And my next door neighbour on one side I know very well, the one sort of further on I kind of know them to say hello, and Bane I don’t know any of them. And across the road. I don’t know any of them and it’s quite strange, but I I’ve got better connections virtually with people that I’ve never met. Van, the people I live next door to is strange, isn’t it?
Shawn Stevenson [6:07]
It’s absolutely strange. And it’s absolutely amazing at the same time, because there’s pros and cons to this, for sure. You know, number one, you’re not limited today by your family, you know, you can actually have your blood family, but then you can also choose your family, you know, you can pick and choose who you want to be a part of your inner circle, you know, and this can literally be somebody who’s on the other side of the planet, we’re now a world community, a world society, and that’s powerful. But at the same time, there is nothing deeper and more impactful than an intimate human relationship. You know, and you know, this as well. You know, when you’re in the environment, when somebody comes to an event that I do, or when I go to an event that experienced that transformation, it last far longer than anything else that you can get exposed to, you know, even if you see a wonderfully powerful video on YouTube or, you know, you listen to a powerful podcast, you know, it doesn’t hit you as deeply as when you’re immersed in the environment, you know, but however this is the key is that those mini immersions you know, listening to podcasts, watching empowering videos give you the template, they keep giving you that fuel, they keep chipping away and creating that, that sculpture of your life that you really want. You know, it’s just when you get out and you get into environments. It’s like really bringing in some bigger tools. And actually, other people are bringing their tools along to really help you create something special. So I hope that makes sense.
David Ralph [7:35]
It makes total sense. Yeah, we obviously going to go back in time because that’s what we do on Join Up Dots. But I suppose I’m going to start with the defining question. But do you feel that you are absolutely authentic to yourself and are you doing exactly what you were told to do or the skills and talents you are given on this earth he has it all come together for you?
Unknown Speaker [8:00]
Shawn Stevenson [8:02]
And just being completely honest with myself, I feel that it is I feel that it has at this at this exact moment, you know, like, just the last few months, everything is just become seamless, you know, I’m living in a continuous state of growth and amazement, and what it was really what it just boiled down to me getting to the place where I made a decision to see it all. You know, and I don’t think that any of us ever arrive. You know, I think that we’re always continuously growing and we’re hitting plateaus, and then we, a lot of people just kind of stay there. But then you have the opportunity to keep breaking through and your greatness doesn’t have a limit, you know, so that I feel that I’m, I’m definitely integrated into what my mission is, and my my happiness and my purpose, but I also feel that there’s so much more there’s so much more, and it takes me getting to the place where I can even see the next level of vision because Cuz my vision is so big, but I know that when I get there, because right now I’m at a place that I envisioned. So absolutely. But when I get to the next level, you know, I don’t even know what what beyond that looks like yet, you know, so I’m excited.
David Ralph [9:13]
But you should be excited and the world should be excited. Shouldn’t you know what we’re talking about here, I suppose in a nutshell is about expansion and growth. And you used to hear it in films when he was a kid growing up, that person is all powerful. And I never really kind of understood what that meant. But when you start to find your thing, and really, it all comes together, you do feel all powerful, don’t you? You feel totally in control of your environment and all your talents or your skills literally, will shoot bumps up, lightning out your fingers, whatever you touch because you’re doing what you’re supposed to be doing.
Shawn Stevenson [9:51]
Yes, I totally agree with that. You know, for me, what I really see is that there there are no viable obstacles anymore. You know, it Anything that I want to accomplish is right there, you know, and there’s nothing that’s stopping me there’s nothing holding me back. And but the secret and I, the thing that I kind of want to go back to, again, is that there was actually nothing there stopping me in the first place, you know, is again, just me working on myself and getting myself to the place where I can see clearly. And I can see that where there’s a will, there’s 1000 ways, not one, there’s 1000 or more, you know, it’s just the, the limits that we put on our minds, you know, so I’m very, very excited and, and honoured and proud to have, you know, really worked on myself and been able to impact the lives of, you know, hundreds of thousands of people at this point. And just to cultivate enough courage and the audacity to see that, you know, I am that powerful and a lot of people and I just want to encourage others, you know, to acknowledge yourself, you know, this is so important, because especially in what I’ve, you know, in my clinical practice, I’ve worked with The vast majority of my patients have been women. And men get this a little bit easier. But it’s it’s a little bit more challenging for women to acknowledge themselves, you know, because the the female blueprint is to be more altruistic, compassionate, loving and nurturing. Not to say this men men, I’m sorry not to say that men don’t have this these capacities We absolutely do. But women have a greater percentage of that is just kind of naturally built into the DNA. And so we shift over and we say, You are beautiful. You are amazing. You are gifted, oftentimes, you know, we’ll just kind of not just women, but mostly women will just brush that off like, no, it’s it’s it was a it was a team effort. It’s our family. That’s great. You can acknowledge that but you also have to acknowledge yourself. You have to give credit. where credit is due you were endowed with these gifts and talents and capacities. They might be latent. They might not be active right now. But you’ve got all these gifts within you. And they don’t get activated until you acknowledge that they’re there.
David Ralph [12:08]
Right? So let’s take you back then you’re in the zone here, and we can hear it. But let’s take you to a time when you weren’t in that zone, and you was the little shown you have running around your neighbourhood. You’re having an amazing life. Why was your life as a child, very much two parts? How did that occur?
Shawn Stevenson [12:28]
Wow. So I, when I was born, I was born to a mother who was very young, she just turned 18, two weeks before I was born. And she wasn’t financially capable of taking care of me at the time. So I lived with my grandmother who was her mother, my grandmother and my grandfather. And I lived with them until I was the age of about five or six. And in that environment, I mean, my grandmother loved me. I mean, she treated me like I was The greatest person in the world, you know, like I was the most amazing thing on the planet, and just really taught me so much about unconditional love. And I remember I have memories. Like, I was very picky eater when she allowed me to be. But she I had my own little table in my own little red chair that I would sit in, and she would make the food that I liked. And I would watch cartoon Express. And, you know, just doing all these little special things for me. And another thing that I picked up in that environment was the entity of my grandmother and my grandfather. I got to see something that is rare today. It’s not I’m sure they had disagreements, and I’m sure that you know, they probably argued from time to time but I never saw that there was so much mutual respect amongst them. They were an entity to me and to everyone they were me mom and pop. You know, my grandma was me, Mom and Pop, and they were an entity, and there was so much mutual love and respect. That just emanated from them. I got that blueprint, I got that blueprint about what’s possible for relationships and also what’s possible, as far as my own unique gifts and talents and just how special I was because somebody let me know that I was special. And so fast forward around six years old, and I’m going to move back with my mother at this point. And this is in the inner city, going to be getting going from a predominantly and I’m my, my actual
race. So I’m, I’m half,
half black and half white to really make it simple. So I went from a predominantly white school where 90% of students are white. And then now I’m in a predominantly black school when 90% of students are black. So it’s pretty, a pretty, pretty big culture shock for me. And at the time, like during this time is when I start to realise that I was different, because kids don’t grow up knowing that they’re different. You know, we were all just kids were all love. And so being in that situation was pretty, pretty interesting and a big change and a big shift. And very early on, I was exposed to a lot of violence. And as a matter of fact, I can share this story with you. I actually just shared the story yesterday for the first time in years. But very quickly, after moving in with my mother, I started to get into little Spats with the boy next door. And we lived in a four family flat and there was another flat next door. And this this little kid, his name was alfonzo. And we kept on fighting. So instead of, you know, being conscientious parents, and helping us to resolve the issue, they they set us outside my my parents, their parents and a couple other random adults, and they had us fight. They had these two, and he was he’s bigger than me. He’s a couple years older than me, these two little kids who were six and maybe eight years old, fight What ended up happening was, he pushed me into the corner of a brick wall and busted my head wide open. And I ended up going in taking it for surgery. And obviously, my grandmother was not very happy, and she wants to get me back. But that didn’t happen. But while I was in there, because what had been programmed into me from living with my parents was, you don’t lose, you have to fight you have to survive. So I’m just like, I’m going to get him I’m going to get him. And the next day when I got out of the hospital, I saw him playing in the backyard digging a hole. And I went over and he saw me coming and I picked up a truck and I hit him with this big metal taco truck taco truck to try to get back at him. And so I’m living this life where I was given this template of love and compassion, and now I’m in this condition where at the age of six, that violence is that is a solution. And so that would kind of plagued me for quite a long time and just seeing you know, the family and At that I was in now was a lot of a lot of violence, a lot of drinking drugs. But luckily, I had this template of a purity and self awareness. And so I i’ve never drank I’ve never smoked, I’ve never done any drugs Funny enough, just I’ve never really been interested in it in part, partially because I didn’t see it the beginning of my life. And when I started to see it, I didn’t like what I saw, you know, but the violence was kind of not optional for me. And also, you know, being more of an attractive kid, I was really pushed into, you know, messing around with a lot of girls at a very young age as well. And so this was the like this dual life, but it all came together later on in my teenage years and really helped to create a pretty solid human being I’d say, so then that’s just a snapshot. I hope that I gave some value there and maybe I didn’t, maybe I devote enough of the story. So
David Ralph [17:59]
Well, welcome. came across to me Sean was number one, you’re a storyteller. You know, there was no way that I could get into that that was a little movie in the making that was. And the other thing is, I think your your family didn’t really teach you to fight, but they taught you to make a decision of what was worth fighting for. And I think that that is a gift they gave you. Would you see that? Yes,
Shawn Stevenson [18:23]
absolutely. And this is, this is one of the things that I would see looking back on that, you know, is to find the gift in it, you know, because even in the negative situations, there’s a blessing somewhere, you know, and it’s just, it’s learning how to use these tools and learning how to use things so they don’t use me, you know, learning how to use anger consciously, instead of letting it use me. Whereas most people in today in our in our in our society is very busy minded. We’ve got a lot of stress, we’re in constant reaction. You know, we’re not really we don’t feel like we’re in control of our lives, which there’s nothing that can be further from the truth. We’re just reacting to everything in our lives. Instead of being in response, you know response ability it’s the ability to respond and really cultivating that so that we can use our emotion we can use our insight to get things done to accomplish task to create rather than just being in reaction having this stuff seemingly going on on automatic which if you can put yourself on autopilot Absolutely. But that’s not going to lead you to happiness you know until you really catch the lesson and all this stuff.
David Ralph [19:27]
It did you think because of your mixed race and the the situation that you were put into different schools, but you were quite obviously different in both different schools. Do you think that that helped cultivate you being authentic you had to be yourself because it wasn’t you weren’t able to hide somehow because the environment around you was so different?
Shawn Stevenson [19:48]
Yes, absolutely. I mean, I tried I tried to fit in. Well, that’s I became aware of this I tried to fit in, and it just didn’t work. it backfired in my face, because just situations around me would Not allowing me to feel like I was a part of the situation. And this is back in the 80s. You know, before, there’s a lot of multi race children now and people who are becoming adults, it’s much, much more common. But at this point, you know, I’m literally going from all white school to all black school to all white school, and I and I look different, you know, in the inside, you know, I’m very similar, I just want to be happy, I just want to be loved, I just want to be accepted. But, you know, it’s, I got to see also that we’re very, we tend to be very surface oriented, in our, in our culture until we until we really start to evolve and we get a little bit older because now you know, being an adult and even seeing people because we have Facebook now. So all these individuals from high school and middle school and college, and just how, how elated that they are to even know me, you know, to say that they knew me or that they went to school with me. You know, it’s because they’re perfectly Activists changed to really see that everybody has value. I was in my little click mind when I was in high school. But now, you know, I see that, you know, there’s not that much difference with us. You know, and what’s so great about the world today is that a lot of this stuff is fading away, Dave, and I think you know, this to have all the separation. And we start to understand like these in the even the borders, you know, that we see on a globe, for example, you know, there’s a, there’s a border separating this country from that country, those lines are just made up, like they literally don’t even exist. You know, these are, these are man made borders, they’re not even real. And we do the same thing in our minds. You know, we create these borders of what’s possible. We create, recreate these borders about who we are, we put ourselves into a box and we put others into a box. And when you do that you don’t allow allow for the full expression of your unique capacity as well as other people around you. So one of my missions is really to help people to break through the borders in their minds, and oftentimes, it’s It’s like you can’t see the forest for the trees. Because you’re in it, you can’t see the box that you put around yourself, you know, and just getting in the right environment or having that right message hits you, you can instantly see that I’ve been controlling myself in an unconscious manner. You know, basically by putting a cast, putting a cast on my spirit, you know, where I can develop and actually I’m atrophying You know, when we can see the cast, then you can finally chip it off, you know, cut through it and break it off and allow for that spirit to grow again.
David Ralph [22:34]
Let’s play some words now, but it’s going to take us to the next part of your journey. And these were words that were said last year by Jim Carrey. Have a listen.
Jim Carrey [22:42]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many Many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [23:10]
Shawn Stevenson [23:13]
David Ralph [23:16]
I have many speeches I listened to Shawn stevenson, but that one never bores me. And sometimes I listen to it from the father’s point of view. Other times I listened to it from Jim Carrey’s point of view. But what I hear all the time is we can hear those words but unless you’re ready to believe them and buy into them, they don’t mean anything, do they?
Shawn Stevenson [23:41]
Absolutely not. It’s they’re just words.
David Ralph [23:44]
When did you get that moment but it was right for you to take a risk. It was right for you to create your own path because your path kind of introduction it almost grew round you you had your health issues, and because you had to fight for revos you actually learnt a lot which you been? were willing to share? Did you see that? Do you see that your path basically found you? Or did you find your own path?
Shawn Stevenson [24:11]
There’s this great quote that I that I heard, I think it was, I think it was Michael Beckwith, who said that God doesn’t call the qualified God qualifies the called. And so I feel that, you know, life really qualified me to do the work that I’m doing today. You know, and, you know, the truth is, honestly, most human beings, we only act out of desperation, we only usually take action when we’re forced to, you know, when our backs against the wall, when we’ve got problems that show up in our lives where, you know, we’ve got to get a certain medical bill paid for or a family member might not be able to, you know, get a transplant or we need to come up with money to save our house or whatever. You can find that money then You know, you find a way. But if you’re not putting that position to where life is, is forcing you to do it, then oftentimes we’ll just sit back and sit in the, in the seat of comfort. You know, and this life is not about comfort, you know, it’s about challenging yourself, you will have many, many comfortable times, like most of your life is going to be comfortable. But if you don’t take action to kind of ease into the discomfort, life is going to put you there. You know, so, I was putting put in a situation where I was faced with a decision, you know, and I just kind of stammered around for two and a half years after being diagnosed with the so called incurable condition
and being told by my physician, that there was nothing that I could do about this, two and a half years in belief and disbelief, you know, I was in belief of what the physician said, because he knows right, he went to school for this, you know, and also disbelief that I thought my life would be better than this. I thought that I had a greatest story in store for me. And so a moment of decision happened. And this is what it really boils down to. Two and a half years later, I’m sitting on my bed and wants to take medication, it’s in my hand. And I have to take these pills just in order to sleep at night because the pain is so bad that if I change positions, while sleeping, it will wake me up, the pain will wake me up. And so I’m looking at these pills. And then I have never told this complete story before and so you have the context. Now. I think about my grandmother, and I haven’t I haven’t really thought about her. In those these two and a half years, she’s still alive. But when she calls me I’m just like, Yeah, I’m fine Grandma, just you know, leave me alone. But in this moment, I think about her. And I think about all of the amazing things that she would say about me to other people, all the amazing things that she would say to me, and that she would see in me and that if she told me that I would do all these steps. With things that are special I was, and I thought about her and I thought that that my, my life was not matching up to my potential, and that I still have this potential in me, I can see it. But I didn’t decide to do anything about it, I unknowingly put my life off into the hands of well meaning a physician, you know, who was telling me that there was nothing that I could do about this. But here’s the truth is that he doesn’t have the final say about me. And also, he’s just a man, he’s just a person. But I had this like God complex that he said that this was how it was, and this is the way that it had to be. And not really understanding that what he had done was something called a no Siebel effect. So a placebo effect is when you give somebody more of a seemingly positive injunction, and so that they believe, and for example, in clinical studies across the board, you’re going to see an average of about 33% effectiveness for a placebo. Alright, 33% effectiveness for something that’s not a drug. It’s just something that somebody believes is drug. To the degree. There’s fascinating studies of individuals taking placebo, fake chemotherapy, and then they proceed to have their hair fall out and experience in spirits, all the nausea symptoms that an individual undergoing chemotherapy would have, but they’re not actually taking chemotherapy. You know, people are interested in that they can look into the work of Dr. Lisa Rankin, for example. But anyway, so the nocebo effect is giving someone a negative injunction. And so they are putting into the tendency to believe that something bad is going to happen. For example, when you tell someone that they have three months to live when they walked into the doctor’s office, and just maybe they’re experiencing some pain, and then they find out they have a terminal cancer, and then they proceed to start deteriorating right before your eyes. And now they’re in a wheelchair within a week. And you can ask What happened? Well, he was told that he was he has three months to live and he believed You know, and some people just don’t choose to believe that. And so there’s no CBOE affected taken hold in my life and I recognised it. And so I made a decision in that moment that I’m going to find out everything that I can about the human body. And I’m going to focus on wellness, I’m going to focus on health, because when I initially went to school, pre med, and had this kind of fascination or idea I was going to be a doctor, but then quickly saw in college that I didn’t like science very much, which is my life now. I absolutely love it. But it’s the way that I was taught. I saw very quickly that the upperclassmen they were, they were just like, engulfed in disease, like they just thought about it all the time. They were so focused on self diagnosing themselves, especially when we get into psychiatry and psychology. You know, you see a little thing wrong, you diagnose yourself with this or you diagnose your friend with that, and it bothered me and also,
understanding that is really based on pharmacology And if this is going wrong with the patient, prescribe this medication if this is going on, possibly do this surgery. So it’s really a cut, burn and poison kind of methodology for treating. Now here’s the, here’s the bottom line, the word doctor means teacher means teacher. And we’ve been disconnected from that because your doctor should be a teacher, a partner, a coach, somebody there who’s working with you, As matter of fact, you’re the main coach, they’re the assistant coach. But you have to be empowered enough to say that this is my body. This is my mind. And I’m the one that’s endowed with the responsibility of taking care of it. They are there to support me not to choose for me. So in that moment, sitting there on my bed holding that bottle of pills in my hands, I made the decision that I was going to get well and when you make a real decision about something, so the word decisions from the Latin day meaning from an idea was nice to cut. When you make a real decision, you cut away the possibility of anything else except that thing that Decide on. So when I decided to get well, there was no other option. You know, so I slept through the night for the first time for eight hours in those two and a half years, and I woke up. And I put a plan together. And this plan included three powerful modalities that I teach people all the time today, but just with different language to spice it up. But basically, you know, you it’s not you are what you eat, is you are which you assimilate. You know. So what is my my spine that was deteriorating? What is my back made of what is my spine actually made of one of those nutrients? And guess what I was deficient in all of them. When I started to give my body the raw materials it needed to heal itself. It did just that, you know, and so when I went back to see the doctor many months later, and they took the scan and they saw that my tissue had regenerated, all he could say was whatever you’re doing, keep doing it. You know, so that’s number one, right nutrition. Number two is movement. You know, I was told by multiple physicians don’t Do anything but wear this back brace Be careful. I was still a capable young man, that again I was I literally, literally and figuratively had this cast on, and I wasn’t able to use my body and here’s the truth. Your body requires movement in order to heal itself. Your body requires movement in order to heal itself is on the premise of you know, if you don’t use it, you lose it, you start to atrophy, so I started to move again. And the third thing was your body really changes. for better for worse. Most of the mostly for the better. while you’re asleep, your body changes in heels while you’re asleep. And so I naturally when I started to pay more attention to my nutrition into my exercise, I naturally started to have a really great sleeping pattern. And I was waking up feeling amazing, you know, and that really, it changed my body so much. Six weeks after making that decision, I lost 30 pounds, which I gained about 4050 pounds of not the sexy kind of weight, you know, being laid out on my floor and playing video games. Why? In college all the time and eating fast food every day, I lost 30 pounds and people on campus. They saw me it wasn’t like I didn’t look like a guy who lost weight. I look like a guy with radiant health. I look like a guy with radiating vibrant health. But but has always
David Ralph [33:18]
been that’s not surprising. I’m gonna jump in there because what you did was simply you reclaimed your own personal power, didn’t you? You took the control away from the doctor and you reclaimed it. And the reason I phrase it like that, well, we had a guest on the show, back in the 290 twos or something called Chris Gibson, who, he’s a very well known in America, he had terrible bad skin. And he took all these creams and everything that people were saying to him, you know, and paid $500 for this course. And when he decided that the prescription that he had was rubbish, and he threw in the bin, he’s life changed and he says he reclaimed his power. So you was always going to get better one year because mentally, you chosen to get better.
Shawn Stevenson [34:06]
Absolutely. And the only the only discern discernment or distinction between myself and other individuals in the same situation or similar situation is that I did reclaim my health is that I chose I, I realised that I had a choice, you know, and again, I was putting the situation My back was against the wall. I don’t feel that could have gotten any lower, besides not being here, you know, and of course, having that state of depression when you’re not an active human being, and you’re not living your your potential or living life to any great degree, you know, so, for me making that decision was the critical component. And when people started to see me now, you know, just walking around on campus, my professors came up to me, students came up to me and they started asking me for help. And so, this was the birthing of my career. You know, I shifted my study back Over to biology, and learning about health and nutrition in the university setting, which I got a little caveat for everybody. I only learned about maybe 1% of what I know today, from the university setting, I was actually taught a lot of bad science. But that experience was so powerful because, you know, if I hadn’t gone through that, if life didn’t qualify me, I wouldn’t be on my mission today. I wouldn’t be doing the thing that I was really born to do, which was to be of high service, which was to inspire people, which was to ensure that people feel good, which was to ensure that people have sovereignty, that they have true, empowered health. You know, that’s what my mission is. And I wouldn’t have been able to recognise that had I not gone through my own personal struggle.
David Ralph [35:47]
But but but the difference between you and so many other people is you recognise, but you took action and you studied and you gained more knowledge than other people around you. And then you could I had the value to them. Now I’ve got chap coming on the show tomorrow morning. And he believes that our entire life is just us building a library of knowledge. But if we then pass it up, we can then sell it to other people. And he believes we’ve all got a knowledge base that we can actually create an income people, there’s going to be somebody out there that wants the knowledge that Shawn Stevenson has built up, or David’s built up or whoever. But unless you actually aware of that and aware of that value, then all you’re going to be doing is walking around campus and having conversations with people and you quite obviously haven’t, you’ve taken it to a very successful business. So when did when did you decide but actually, the freebie, the helping people just because you knew more than them couldn’t continue and it was going to be into a business.
Shawn Stevenson [36:46]
Oh, wow. That’s a great question. I remember the first person who I who I who I helped, and it was a young lady and she basically just said asked me to help her to do what I had done. And I didn’t have any context for being able to charge any money to do this, you know, so I just helped her. And then she’s like, you know, I should pay you something. And I was like, Okay. $7 You know, like, just like, scraps, right? Like pennies, you know? And today, I mean, it’s, it’s light years beyond that, but I was just starting to understand like, okay, so I’m giving this service and somebody actually wants to give me money back for me personally. I didn’t make i didn’t i didn’t consciously choose right out of the gate. Someone told me they want to pay me, you know. And so that kind of started my thinking of, you know, what is this whole thing? What is this whole system? And a lot of people have issues with dealing with money, and I definitely did, you know, especially coming from a situation where we grew up in poverty, you know, the second part of my childhood, you know, so what it really was for me was getting to the place of understanding my value. You know, so fast forward just a couple of years and now I’m getting into actually working with, with patients in a clinical setting and helping them to reverse type two diabetes, for example. Now an individual who has they’re about to go on dialysis, if they don’t get this together, they’re about to be put on insulin, their body is failing them, they could possibly die within the next couple of years. And we come in and we put together protocol, and now they, they’ve completely reversed their insulin resistance. They’ve lost 50 pounds, they’re no longer dependent on Metformin, or whatever the particular drug may be. They are actually cured. They don’t they no longer have clinically, you know, the word quote, cured, they no longer have the disease that they once had, how much is that worth? How valuable is that? We cannot put a value on human life. You know, like, if we talked about you know, David, so how much How much is your left leg worth?
David Ralph [39:03]
As much as me right leg?
Shawn Stevenson [39:06]
As the politically correct answer, you know, but the reality is like this is priceless. This is priceless. You know. So what I like to do is to put people into a state where of course they understand the value, but more so to make them feel like they’re investing something, they’re putting some skin in the game. It gets to them just a little bit. So they take it seriously, you know, because that’s what I saw early on as well is that when you when you’re giving everything away without somebody investing anything into it themselves, because of the way that our society is structured in a way that are we mentally set up, we honestly don’t put 120% into it. As if, as compared to when you invest something, you know, when you put some money into something you want to see it bear some fruit, and people just naturally more inclined to take action. And by the way, that’s not everybody. That’s not all circumstances. But generally this is the case. And I’ve literally I’ve worked with thousands and thousands of People, you know, so it’s just getting to the place where you can understand your value, and then putting your prices in a place that makes you a little bit uncomfortable. You know, so you know, that would make them just a little bit uncomfortable, you know, and that’s what it’s about. And then you work together to come to that particular goal, that solution that you both are looking for.
David Ralph [40:18]
So I said, what was the biggest mental block you had? Because what we’re talking about here is the starting of a business and our listeners out there, they come to me with so many ideas, but I see it but they don’t quite believe that they can take this to fruition. They can take this to a business. And it doesn’t mean need a lot. It only needs a tweaking or a different point of view, whatever. And it’s quite obvious there’s there’s value in it. So what’s the biggest mental block getting yourself fit or actually been taking it further taking it to the point of actually charging p services.
Shawn Stevenson [41:00]
Wow, the getting fit part was actually incredibly easy. Because when I made the decision, and I put my heart into it, it just all unfolded right in front of me. However, the other portion, you know, making it into a career, my my story and my gifts was definitely a lot more challenging because I had to build myself up in order to be somebody who had the capacity, the talents, the skills to be able to help another person who, most of the time, it’s not a matter of Can they do it, it’s a matter of getting them to the right state, psychologically and emotionally to where they can do it. You know, because honestly, that the the strategies for getting fit and healthy are simple. I mean, it’s absurdly simple. eat good food, move your body, have a stress management practice. Make sure that you have supportive people around you and get good sleep. Like these things are they’re pretty simple but Why don’t we do them? Why don’t we do them? That’s the real question. And that’s where the gold lies. That’s where the talented practitioner actually earns his his income or he or he earns his reward, you know, by figuring out, how do I help that person to find that place within themselves, to where they do these things that are so simple so they can have what they really want. You know, because what it really is there’s, there’s those barriers that we have in our mind. And oftentimes, and I like to share this as many times as I can, is that the number one driving force of a human being is to stay congruent with the ideas that they hold up themselves. Okay, so I’ll say that again, the number one driving force of human being, is to stay congruent with the ideas that you carry for yourself. You know, so if I see myself as a person who is chubby, and I don’t like my job, and I drive a car that’s always having problems, so be it So be it. Life is going to respond to you in like kind that this is your belief. And what happens if you start to go outside of that paradigm, you start to exercise a little bit, you start to do a little dieting, you’re going to self sabotage, because that’s not who you see yourself as being, you’ve got to stay congruent. You’ve got to be that guy, and also, the people around us as they see you as that person as well. They’re going to help you delegate to help to remind you that Hey, what are you doing exercising, you know, chubby Chuck, you don’t do that. You’re chubby Chuck, you’re you’re a guy, you know, we we poke fun at you, you poke fun at us. So when you start to stretch outside of that, not only do you have to change your own mindset, but you have to understand that the people around you are going to change as well. And you’ve got to be prepared for that. You know, there’s a lot of components that that people have to work on, you know, but we can make this as seamless and graceful as possible. Just by you. I think one of the greatest things. I really I haven’t talked about this before, but I’m very passionate about Helping people to get to the place where they don’t have to change where. And I know it sounds crazy, but helping people to make these decisions to take care of themselves before something bad happens, you know, before they hit rock bottom before their back is against the wall, let’s not even get to that point. You don’t have to do what I did. You know,
David Ralph [44:20]
get this now is not the easiest way you’ve always wanted to hit rock bottom, because it takes you out of that dream killer, which is the comfort that middle ground but the 90% of the world is in. And it seems to me after 300 conversations, the people that hit the bottom, look down and think Well, there’s no further I can drop. It’s up time here. But the ones in the middle. They’re the ones that are lost somehow.
Shawn Stevenson [44:48]
Yeah, absolutely. Rock Bottom is a valuable place to be. You know, but I know today that and there’s different rock bottoms. You know, there’s different versions of that and in different areas of our lives. And I got to a place where I can see where, okay, I’m being in the in the middle ground here on these different things. And I don’t have to have a get any worse. If I decide, you know what, I’m just going to get up, I’m just going to get up and pull myself up. Actually, no, you start by pushing yourself, you push yourself to do it until the vision starts to pull you out, you know, and so I want to help as many people as I can, so that they don’t have to go through the rock bottom part, though it’s valuable. Let’s see if we can stand on the shoulders of giants or build on top of buildings, you know, just keep on getting better and better and better and bigger and bigger. You know, and I think that the greatest Quantum Leap opportunities there is that the trial and success method, you know, instead of trial and failure, you know, and I, I’m really, really passionate about this, because it takes a very great amount of skill. When somebody’s not in pain. You know, their life isn’t that bad. You know, they’re there. They make just enough money. They’re their health isn’t to the degree where they’ve been diagnosed with something, it’s just not that bad. How can I compel these people to be great? Because the truth is bad is going to come. You know, and I don’t like these labels, but I’m just for the point of communication. something negative is going to happen. If you’re living the way that you’re living, you know, and you’ve got, like, you know, you can’t eat just one, you know, you’re like, your hands in the bag. And you know, you’re just like, a desk jockey, you know, or armchair quarterback and just constantly watching TV and you’re not growing yourself. That’s not who you are. That’s not what you were designed to do. So you’re gonna have pain, unless you can get this now.
David Ralph [46:39]
But But he said, I’m waiting to play the words of Steve Jobs in a moment, which is the theme of the whole show. It’s why we call it Join Up Dots. But one of the things that comes out time and time again, is that bad things are good things and the good things are the bad things. So in light in your situation, you look at your history, your health history, and you go well, that must have been terrible, but naturally, no, that was good. And you will wouldn’t be where you are without it. So do people not actually have to go through the dark times? Is that not what makes the good times flourish?
Shawn Stevenson [47:10]
Here’s what I, here’s what I think this is a really great example. Let’s just say the potential of a human being, you know, we got it like a scale of one to 10 on how great you can be as human being all of us. So, level 10 is like the Dalai Lama enlightened being kind of, you know, Buddha, Jesus like that kind of level. Yeah. In level one is just like, straight up survival on the streets, just trying to get something to eat. Right, so this is the scale of human potential. Now, let’s say that you’re a level four person, okay? Your level four person and by the way, the scale of human potential, the scale of problems are the same one to 10. Okay, so your level four person, right just going on about your life. Now a level three property happens.
Shawn Stevenson [48:01]
Shawn Stevenson [48:03]
this is probably going to mess up your day probably messed up your week, probably cause a lot of turmoil and distress in your life. Right? Because the problem is almost bigger than you are. Now, let’s say you work on yourself proactively, not because of something negative happening, but you build yourself up. You know, because you understand that you have this opportunity, you understand that you are here to be great, you understand that there is so much that you can achieve and you are around other people who are cultivating that in you. You grow yourself to be a level eight person, and then a level three problem happens. It literally doesn’t even it doesn’t even come on your radar. You know this something you can handle on your lunch break. Or maybe you can even have someone else have hired somebody else to take care of it. Because you’ve grown yourself, you know proactively. So, absolutely. One method of change is going through the dark times. But what I really feel is that even when you get up to level eight There are a different type it’s a, it’s a higher quality problem that happens. You know, you also have the dark times, you also have the struggles and the challenges. But now you see them differently, you know, and you also get the message faster. So as you grow yourself, you don’t have to hit rock bottom if you choose growth, you know, and you can have these little kind of mini dark nights of the soul instead instead of like straight up in the in the dark corner depression, you know, and this is my belief and this is what I’ve seen in my clinical practice.
David Ralph [49:35]
So where would you score yourself on the level one to 10
Shawn Stevenson [49:41]
Shawn Stevenson [49:46]
I would not be honouring myself if I didn’t say I was a level 10 person.
David Ralph [49:53]
Quite simple as that you’re as good as you can be at the moment
Shawn Stevenson [49:59]
but bloody And even when I give that example, there’s always more, there’s always more, there’s always more.
David Ralph [50:06]
And it is 10 your personal belief, or is 10 what you know you can achieve because because that’s, well, I have a problem with that I was trying to judge myself, I was thinking, my personal belief of where I’m going and what I’m going to attain, yes, that’s going to be a 10. But actually where I’m at now, is it the kind of the actions? Is it the task? Is it the value I’m putting into the world that gives me my true score? Or is it my personal belief of what I’m going to become?
Shawn Stevenson [50:36]
Here’s the problem, David, is that when you get to level 10, then what
Unknown Speaker [50:41]
you anyways down, you know,
Shawn Stevenson [50:43]
then exactly, there’s nothing else seemingly but I really even when I said that, it takes a bit of confidence in oneself to say something like that, but for me, I think that everybody has that level 10 they’re already they already are that their level two for themselves where they are right now, you know, but there’s so much more, you know, like you’re exactly who you are who you’ve chosen to be, you know, so I kind of I coloured it differently in my mind when I asked you the question, you know, because to rate ourselves as human beings is impossible, you know. And so for me, I’m, I’m as great as I can be right now in this moment, because I’ve chosen to be so. But at the same time, I know that there’s, it’s probably a scale of 100. And when I get down to this probably scale of 1000, and on and on and on, you know, so I feel that every single human being has this has this level 10 potential within them, and they’re already they’re already accessing it, but they’re probably not accessing it consistently. How about I put it like that?
David Ralph [51:47]
Well, I think that’s spot on. But I would also say, but don’t you think that we all write ourselves against other people? faster? Absolutely. That’s the key, isn’t it?
Shawn Stevenson [51:56]
Yes, absolutely. There’s a great quote that says When you compare me, you negate me. You know, when you compare me, you negate me. Or also, when you label me, you negate me as another one. But when you compare me or you compare yourself, and I first heard this from my mother in law, when you compare yourself, you silence God. And what that really speaks to is the fact that you are a unique, unique phenomenon. You are a unique entity that has been gifted with certain capacities that no other human being in the history of the world has been or ever will be, will have. You know, there’s billions of people on this planet right now, but no two people see things the same. It’s impossible. If you’ve got 50,000 people in a stadium, there’s 50,000 different points of view, and 50,000 different ways that they’re colouring that game, you know, and so, all of us really have these unique gifts, but when we start to compare ourselves, we start shipping. away at our gifts in our in our own uniqueness and our own value. You know, it’s just by the way, the comparison is, again, it’s just a programme. It’s a programme that we’ve accepted, you know, and there are cultures that are, that are far different from our culture as far as what they see as beauty, as far as what they see as talent. You know, there are cultures where, you know, the bigger the bigger the female body is, the better, the more healthy, the more robust because they can bear a lot of children, you know, or their societies where, you know, we’re actually their society structures where the woman is the dominant force, you know, the woman is the person who’s actually managing the tribal community, you know, and actually talked about this on one of the episodes of my show. Well, my guests did more. So Daniel vitalis, was on the show talking about these different kind of societal structures, and we just are doing one, but if you’re in it, you don’t know that there’s another option. You don’t know that there’s another possibility. You know, so there’s a lot going on there with comparison. But more so I think it’s really just a matter of you getting back and being grateful for yourself finding a Practice daily to give thanks. And having and here’s why we don’t do this David is because religiosity, you know, scripturally, you know, being in fear of vanity. Right? And it made me it’s still there in me, it made me a little uncomfortable to say that I’m a level 10 person, like, Who are you to say that when I was surprised, to
Unknown Speaker [54:30]
Shawn Stevenson [54:32]
and other people around you, you know, but there’s a difference between a healthy confidence and being assured of yourself and being being grateful for who you are and the person that you are. there’s a there’s a difference between that and Kanye West. You know, and I’m sure even even him he has a story that other people would probably not hearing, you know, but it’s a fear of vanity. It’s a fear of like, it’s if somebody has to tell you You that they’re humble, they’re probably not humble. I would rather have other people say that about me, then for me to say myself, I’m not going to be that, I’m going to be confident, I’m going to tell you that I can help you. I’m going to tell you that I’m the I’m going to tell you that I’m the best teacher and presenter of health information on the planet. I’ll tell you that because I have to see it first before anybody else does.
David Ralph [55:26]
I can see why you sleep so well. That there’s a calmness there’s an A shortness of you, you you’re not battling and i think that’s that’s why so many people do sleep badly. For example, I think they’re battling perceptions battling what they need to do, you seem to be pretty contained, and you know what you’re gonna do, and you’re gonna do it.
Shawn Stevenson [55:48]
Yeah, I would agree with that.
David Ralph [55:51]
But let’s play the words of Steve Jobs. We’re getting near the end of the show, but I’m really need to find out what your big dotting your timeline is. So this is The whole theme and these are the words that he said back in 2005.
Steve Jobs [56:03]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [56:39]
dots line up. Do you buy into those words, Sean?
Shawn Stevenson [56:45]
Wow, absolutely. Man, I’m actually I’ve got tears, man. Yeah, absolutely.
David Ralph [56:51]
Yeah. So the million dollar question I ask it to everyone is what was your big job? What was the moment When you look back and you go, yeah, it might have been just as a subtle little thing. But that was when Sean really started to become who he should be.
Shawn Stevenson [57:12]
The thing that came up while I was listening to him was when I met my wife. And she was, of course, at one point, my girlfriend, and I met her while I was still in school. And of course, I had this powerful moment of decision and transformation take place. But where I am today, was a direct result. And I needed her I needed, what she offered what she brought to the table in order to help to create me in order to help the flesh out the person that I really am and all the parts that were close to me all the doors that have been closed. Looking back to when I had that template as a child and seeing my grandparents as this powerful entity. I had that I actually got to experience that and it was Always there possible. But it wasn’t until that moment and here’s why it really hit me is that with my with my wife with my girlfriend at the time, I got to meet my I got to meet her mother. I got to meet her mother, my mother in law. And I was dedicated to helping other people. I was dedicated to being of service. And now I had met the woman who was the single, most altruistic, giving, loving, gifted, intelligent person I had ever met. And she was deeply engulfed in a just in, in all things health is just like, how could I possibly meet this woman? When I met my girlfriend, she really wasn’t that much into this stuff. You know, as a matter of fact, even me when I went to her mom’s house for the first time, and I’m, I’m fresh still in college. You know, this is about a year and a half after this physical transformation. And I hadn’t put all the pieces together. And so I didn’t know if thing about wheat grass and I walk into the house and there’s like, her mom’s growing grass. I’m like, what’s up? You know, what’s their mom? Is she smoking this? I don’t know, like, what is this grass here, you know and just all these raw foods and dehydration trays and all this stuff. And she had actually went down to and wigs Morris and Wigmore Institute and really cultivated herself and, and become a practitioner working with like raw foods and, and detoxification and these things and 30 years ago, she went to Maharishi’s school in Kenya, to learn meditation. And was was really counterculture to the environment that she was in and suffered through all of the people, you know, saying that this was not appropriate, you know that she’s drinking the Kool Aid and these things and she still remained true to herself and worked and got her family here to the United States, as well and has helped so many other Kenyans to be able to do the same and now they absolutely love her, but at one point, they they, you know, said that she wasn’t a good person. You know? So anyways, you’ve been through all these things and to have her come into my life really changed everything for me because it opened my eyes. I realised by talking to her that I didn’t know anything. You know, I had only scratched the surface on what was possible, you know, because it’s all about your reference point. You know, at that point, I just really thought I’d figured it out. Because I look at me I’m, I’m physically healthy and attractive outwardly outside, and there’s no pain. But what about the allergies? You know, what about the asthma? What about the colds and flus? Do these things have to happen? No, absolutely not. This is when we get into the details. So because of her I found access to the to the details. And that’s really what I feel has been one of my greatest gifts, and helping thousands of people is my ability to access the the big picture and also the details. So that was my dot was meeting my My amazing wife, and my mother in love.
David Ralph [1:01:04]
We could take this show in all different directions. We could have about a six hour episode here. But unfortunately, this is the end of the show. And this is the part that we called a sermon on the mind when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the younger Sean, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m gonna play the theme tune and when it fades, you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [1:01:37]
Speed of the show.
Shawn Stevenson [1:01:54]
Okay, so I am back 16 years old and A lot is about to change in my life. I’m going to see the first warning signs of physical degeneration and break down and start to question my ability. You know, I am looking outwardly talented, you know, on the football field on the track. But physically I’m breaking down inside and I can’t seem to stay healthy. And I would tell myself to trust the process. trust the process, all of the things that you’re about to go through is going to lead you to something magnificent, you know, beyond anything that you can possibly fathom right now, you’re going to do great, amazing things that’s going to impact the lives of hundreds of thousands of people in the short term and millions of people in the long term. But you’ve got to trust the process. Go through these things go through the tough times. But the only thing I’m going to advise you to do Is catch the lesson faster when the challenge comes up see the gift in it a little bit faster so that you can move to the next level because you’ve got a lot of work to do man
David Ralph [1:03:13]
shown how can our audience connect with you sir?
Shawn Stevenson [1:03:19]
They can connect with me multiple ways. Definitely hit me up on my show on iTunes is called the model health show. And I’m 100 completely blown away to be able to say this but we’ve been featured as the number one health show on the iTunes charts many times number one in fitness and nutrition. And for my show we do is we really do master classes. So I take people behind the scenes and showing what I’ve been teaching here in my clinic you know, helping individuals we’ve got a about a 90% reversal rate for type two diabetes, amazing stories, we’re reversing breast cancer and other types of cancers heart disease, helping people to get off their, you know, their the lisinopril, stat and mid form is whatever they can May maybe if they don’t want to be dependent on medications for the rest of their lives by, you know, helping to get rid of the underlying cause of the disease. So we’ve got classes ranging from those on depression to two diabetes, as I mentioned, to just general fat loss and just looking good feeling good about yourself but also the inner game stuff. You know, so breaking through obstacles in your life, helping to shift your body image in the way that you see yourself the way that you talk to yourself. So definitely check out the model health show you can listen on iTunes or any modality to listen to your podcast on Stitcher, all that good stuff or you can connect with me online and my home online and listen to the show. There we are. We’ve also got some awesome videos. So my home online is the Sean Stephenson model calm and you can just google me it’s Shawn Stevenson as t v ENSO n, and I’ll be right there to pop up and I be so honoured and happy to connect with you and to add some value to your life and I Really Thank you for listening. And David, I appreciate you having me on so much. This has been amazing. Thank you. We will have
David Ralph [1:05:07]
over links on the show notes. And yeah, he has been amazing. So thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. Please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Mr. Shawn Stevenson, thank you so much.
Shawn Stevenson [1:05:23]
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