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Sarah Weldon is todays guest on the Join Up Dots business coaching podcast..
She is an amazing lady with such a huge heart, and the drive to tackle the kind of challenges that would make me quite simply climb back into bed.
Shortly she is going to start rowing herself around the British Isles on the Great British Viking Quest.
Which is a 3000 mile, single-handed circumnavigation of Great Britain in a purpose built ocean rowing boat.
Retracing the oar strokes of Viking seafarers, warriors, and conquerors.
The expedition brings ocean literacy, environmental, and STEM (Science, Technology, engineering, and Maths) education alive for students worldwide in the 21st century.
Funds raised will provide education to disadvantaged young people worldwide.
Helping every child ‘go for gold’ and to be successful in whatever they do in life.
As she says “I’m passionate about the world, scuba diving, human beings, and the experiences that life brings us.
I love my job, and I feel very privileged to do what I am doing.
So how has a lady that spent two years walking peoples dogs around the English Countryside, ended up following in the watery path of the United Kingdoms Norwegian invaders?
And does she feel that is just the start to more and more increasingly challenges that she can see on the horizon?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the inspirational Sarah Weldon.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Sarah Weldon such as:
How she always thought that she was a confident person until she spent time with children in Georgia, and realised that was truly living within her comfort levels.
Why when she was a small child she would play with the only poisonous snake in the United Kingdom and think it was great fun to do so.
How she works literally twenty hours a day, seven days a week, and can’t stop talking about it with her friends, such is her passion for the task.
Why we should ignore the people that want to know the financial details of a project and grasp hold of the people that simply believe in our dream.
How she has needed to pile on the pounds to be able to undertake this gruelling task.
Then was required to go to an event with probably the skinniest woman in the world..V.Beckham
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Audio Transcription For Sarah Weldon Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes Hello there everybody. It is David Ralph so that means it must be join up dots and this is episode 318. And it’s going to be a good one here, because I’ll be honest, I’ve done a certain amount of research on the guests like I like to do because, hey, I’m a professional. And when about five minutes before recording, I found a website with some extra stuff. And I got so engrossed in it, I suddenly thought, oh my god, I’m supposed to be recording a show. So there’s going to be some things that I’m going to sort of throw into the mix, which I’m basically don’t really come together with what I’d research. I’m just interested little bit nosy on this one. So today’s guest them join up dots it is an amazing lady with such a huge heart and the drive to tackle the kind of challenges that would make me quite simply climb back into bed. Shortly she’s gonna start rolling herself around the British Isles on the Great British Viking quest, which is a 3000 mile single handed circumnavigation of Great Britain in a purpose built ocean rowing boat retracing your strokes of Viking seafarers, warriors and conquerors. Now, the expedition brings ocean literacy, environmental and stem which stands for science, technology, engineering and math education, a life of students worldwide in the 21st century. funds raised will provide education to disadvantaged young people worldwide, helping every child go for gold and to be successful in whatever they do in life. As she says, I’m passionate about the world scuba diving human beings and the experiences that life brings us. I love my job. How many people can say that, and I feel very privileged to do what I’m doing. So how has a lady but actually spent two years walking people’s dogs around the English countryside ended up following in the watery part of the United Kingdom’s Norwegian invaders? And does she feel that this is just a start to more and more increasingly challenges that she can see on the horizon? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show, to start join up dots with the inspirational and English Sarah Weldon. How are you Sarah?
Sarah Weldon [2:27]
I’m very good. Thank you. And it’s lovely to hear another English accent as well.
David Ralph [2:31]
Yeah, there’s not many of us. Yeah, it’s just you and me. Because I find it extremely novel because of the amount of I don’t know, English. People don’t really like to come on podcast. I don’t know what it is. I don’t even want to show it.
Sarah Weldon [2:46]
Maybe, maybe it’s only something I found from my, my travels abroad. So yeah, I think I think while spending time abroad, I’ve kind of I’ve got rid of a lot of my shyness, I think.
David Ralph [2:58]
Well, I said, I don’t think I was that but shy before I started doing this. But I do find that the English kind of had that underdog. We don’t like to pick ourselves up, do we? We don’t like to come on to shows like this and say, Gina world, I’m doing something inspirational. But we’re quite happy to sit there listening about other people doing it.
Sarah Weldon [3:16]
David Ralph [3:18]
But so you are you are an inspirational lady. And you’ve got one of these stories. But as I say, I research but then then there’s more to it, that there’s deeper stuff that I can go. So let’s let’s talk about what you’re doing at the moment, because that’s the key thing while we got you on the show, because it is an amazing thing for so many reasons. One is that you’re going to start rowing yourself around the British Isles, which is hard work in itself. The second thing, I thought it was going to be sort of row and then move up somewhere and go for a drink in the evening and a nice nice hotel or whatever. But you’re literally constantly doing it, you’re actually going to allow yourself to hallucinate by the APA. Tell us about that?
Sarah Weldon [4:01]
Well, so the plan is to I discovered that no one has ever written around Britain. And it’s kind of a long story to it, really. But I’ll give you the short version. Basically, I found out that no one had ever done it before. And I thought what an incredible way to raise money for the charity I run which is oceans project. And also to use it to kind of bring the ocean life for all children around the world following the project, who a lot of them haven’t even seen the sea before. Even in Britain, there are kids who’ve never been to the beach. And, and and also to kind of because I’ve lived abroad for quite a long time, I realized that all the Jordan I was meeting on my travels knew more about Britain than I did as a Brit, which was a bit embarrassing. So I thought it’s kind of time I delivered history and found out more about what it means to be a British Islander.
David Ralph [4:51]
So So how do you know what no one’s done? Now I’m gonna throw the cynical view into
Sarah Weldon [4:57]
why she asked that question myself. Yeah, I can’t believe that. No, as I’ve done it before, that that really, really surprised me, given that we’re in Ireland. So I mean, people have caught around Britain before. And people have rode around in pairs and as a forest part of a race. But nobody, as far as I can see, there’s no, there’s no records anywhere that say anybody’s ever done it so low. But I wonder in history, whether, you know, perhaps, you know, people might have done it.
David Ralph [5:24]
I think somebody must have done it, don’t you
Unknown Speaker [5:26]
think it will we think say, you know, wouldn’t run by Paul Brown from hapa. Next, yeah.
David Ralph [5:33]
I was actually surprised because, you know, I come from the United Kingdom, I was quite astonished by how coastline is 3000 miles, he never dawned on me, it was that much
Sarah Weldon [5:43]
as it’s probably more. And there’s quite an argument going on with all the mathematicians that they’ve actually measuring it because it depends on like, the smaller the kind of ruler you use to measure it, the longer the coast becomes, I forgot the name of it now, but it’s a big scientific kind of mathematical phenomenon. So you and then obviously, that has been a rough cases for, like how big the country is, and all those kind of things. So
David Ralph [6:07]
obviously, it’s going to be hard. It is going to be hard. There’s no getting away from that. But it’s it’s beyond hard, isn’t it? And I like to challenge myself in a very comfortable way. But are you somebody that actually likes to challenge themselves in an uncomfortable way? Is that what sort of makes it exciting? Boy,
Sarah Weldon [6:25]
I don’t know. I mean, I, I sound quite lazy in some ways. But then, I mean, the bit that excites me about this is really the journey rather than the endpoint. And I do find that I like, I like projects that are quite challenging. And I almost like it when when things don’t work out. Because then you have to really, you know, it challenges you to really push yourself and to come up with the solution that you perhaps hadn’t thought about. So yeah, I don’t know. That’s, that’s it? That’s a trick question.
David Ralph [6:51]
What that’s what I like to do I like to leave your lazy person, are you somebody that will leave you? So? Leave your knickers on the floor? And all those? Is that the kind of laziness you’re talking about? Because this is this is this is effort?
Sarah Weldon [7:05]
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, I hadn’t really ever plan to grow an ocean. So the story kind of goes that I was working in the former Soviet, probably for Georgia, and I was working with a group of refugee children. And I was really inspired by them. And they’d literally, you know, different wars and things. And when I first went over, I suppose it’s kind of that, you know, kind of stereotypical Brit. They looked at them, I said, you know, how can you be happy when you’ve got nothing, you know, materially everything, and you’ve lost family. And, you know, we’re sitting around a table waiting bread, and you’ve got no electricity, like, how come you’re happy. And they said to me, because we’ve got food, and we’re around, and we’re here. Now we’re here today. And that just really changed my thinking. That’s all actually, you know, we spend so much time kind of thinking about all things you don’t have and aspiring to have in a posh car, or to own our house, or, you know, to have the next kind of fashionable item shoe, right, whatever. But we don’t really kind of we never really in the moment. So that’s what I really learned from them. But in the whole process of working with them. I was trying to get them to kind of understand that, you know, you can achieve anything in life as long as you work hard. And you’re prepared to put the effort in, which really backfired on me, because we were following an ocean record Russ Savage, and we’re following her blogs as part of our English lessons. And then the kids start saying, you know, well, you know, well, she wasn’t an ocean road before. And she’s now read three oceans. You know, you could do that. And I was like, No, no, no, no. But then we’re actually broke it down into kind of a to do list, I realized there was nothing whitelist I couldn’t do with a bit of effort. So my plan really backfired. Because I kind of run up excuses with the kids. So it wasn’t really planned at all.
David Ralph [8:48]
weekend was coming on the show sometime in about June, hoping she’s busy. So she, she’s scheduled for that. And we’ve yours is it’s absolutely true. And it’s not just about rowing this, that if you write down a list of things you can do rather than trying to come up with excuses of why you can’t. Yeah, it kind of puts you to that point, isn’t it, but where you go, actually, what what’s holding me back is only myself holding me back.
Sarah Weldon [9:17]
Definitely. And I think that that was the real important lesson I learned when I was in Georgia was that, you know, there’s, there’s no such thing as con, really. But we kind of, I don’t know, like, especially coming back to Britain and kind of walking around now. And I meet so many people that have felt up in their lives. And now all these things do is complain. And I just think, Well, you know, why don’t you change it? But then I think that that’s the where the line is really because it depends on you know, if you actually do want to change, and if you’re unhappy, change it. But I think sometimes we kind of like to complain about things, that we’re actually quite happy.
David Ralph [9:51]
here Don’t worry, United Kingdom we we love them. We
Sarah Weldon [9:55]
Oh, definitely. I think I’m aware of that now because I’ve been abroad. So yeah, it surprised me. Really, I can see why people think you know, Brits are so negative. Well, I think the friendly, but actually, they don’t realize that we’re quite often sarcastic. So uh,
David Ralph [10:10]
well, it’s funny. I went to a reunion on Friday night from my old office. And I was talking to I basically just walked in, and I went, you know, how are you? And I said, Yeah, fine, you know, get me a point. And this chat come up to me. And I said to me, how you getting on you know, you enjoying it any when it’s a job, isn’t it? And I felt like a hand come on to my arm, like David, David, don’t go into one. I know what you’re like, I hear you every day on your show. Don’t Don’t you know, people have to get to that point that want it. And once you get to that point, when you’re ready, but no, no matter how much you say it, and I say it and it’s down to you. You’ve got it, don’t you? So So when did you do remember the moment? Actually, when you did get to that point? Now we’re just talking about now, where do you actually fall on? I’ve said this too many times. Now it’s time for me to actually step beyond my fears.
Sarah Weldon [11:03]
Today, I always thought I was a fairly kind of confident person. And it was only when I was in Georgia. And I was I was meeting I was working for the government there. And my boss was one of the prime minister. And I was working with these different kids. And I suddenly realized that how insecure I was, and how nice he saw that I always came up with, you know, they say, Can you sing a song? Can you dance for us? Can you do this? And I was always like, Oh, no, no, I couldn’t, I couldn’t. So I think it was really just the more I was, the more time I spent with the children there, the more they built me up, and I kind of threw off a lot of those kind of Gremlins, I suppose that always stopped me doing things. So I really just drew all my inspiration from them, they really brought me up. So and I think that’s how it got to the point where I thought, you know what, like, some of these kids have been through amazing things like really difficult challenges. And they’re still here smiling. And I haven’t been through any of that. And obviously with the road. Well, this is something I’m choosing to do. So you know what the Jordan I’ve met, haven’t had a chance haven’t had the choice in their lives, but they just gotta just got on with it. So now is the moment that I have to ask this question for you. Will you sing us a song?
David Ralph [12:17]
Do you feel? Like do you feel confident that you can give us a bit of whatever?
Sarah Weldon [12:23]
I could say, Yeah, I try to think of a song right now. But I’m sure I could. Yeah. And also, just like standing on stage, when I was terrified of, you know, I always kind of held back in word because I hated public speaking. And now I’m doing you know about comedy show. And I’ve been up on stage quite a bit now. So, you know, those are things I never would have done, you know, a few years ago.
David Ralph [12:44]
So So if we take you right back in time, like we like to do them join up dots I mean, sort of connect the dots to where you are now. But what was there that the small server like them was she very studious, because you seem to be somebody who, who has embraced education and loves nothing more, sharing that passion with the world is that kind of true version of your younger self. To know,
Sarah Weldon [13:06]
um, I mean, I grew up on accounts to this day, and university was never considered an option for me at school or anything. And for a lot of my kind of friends as well, now, we were part of the poor kids school that no one really kind of expected much of us. So I had to work very hard for education, and I work full time, and I did my first degree with like, the Open University. So I think I kind of really value it from that perspective. And also from working abroad as well, I’ve been really lucky in my travels, that I’ve met a lot of children who don’t have that opportunity, but would really, you know, like, you know, would kind of risk their lives to have access to education. So I kind of understand that. So. But I would say I was probably very, very serious. And I was always kind of aspiring for the pension, the mortgage. And I thought that that’s what had to do to be successful. That was what was society kind of expected. So I kind of work very hard on those things. But it was only when I was in India, working on a maternal child health project, and I actually developed a condition called Guillain Barre, and I spent 18 months paralyzed afterwards. And then I suddenly thought, you know, my biggest regret if I’d have died, was that I hadn’t really lived and I spent so long planning for the future, but not really living in the moment. So I suppose I kind of was a bit of a rebel after that, and I, you know, started so you know, saving money. And I kind of started traveling and doing, you know, more fun things and living a bit more so.
David Ralph [14:37]
So what was it ever that kind of version where you would, because I remember, as a kid, I was fascinated with globes. And if I was anywhere with a globe, I would spin it, and then look at where it is. And I’ve always been fascinated by this tiny little island called diabetes right in the middle of the Pacific. And it kind of joins up the Pacific Rim all the way through. And I remember as a small kid looking at that, and thinking, it’s an amazing place, and for no reason other than it just seemed to be central to everything. And then when I saw it on TV ones, I thought to myself, God, I hope so I’ve always had this kind of adventurous spirit in me. But funnily enough, other than holidays and road trips through America, I haven’t done these kind of things. So what were you that kind of spinning globe Gil, did you look at adventure and passion and, and sort of possibilities when he was younger?
Sarah Weldon [15:29]
I mean, well, I grew up from the Dorset coast. So we hit we were kind of surrounded by common land, and I used to go and play with others and planting rivers and always had kind of like my little mini adventures. You played with wat after with others? What the
David Ralph [15:44]
actual snakes snakes?
Unknown Speaker [15:45]
Yes, poisonous things. Yeah.
Sarah Weldon [15:50]
This, you know, I was fascinated by nature and just the environment around yesterday, so. So yeah, especially because I was kind of adventurous in that way. But III didn’t really, I had no expectations of the rest of the world. So I didn’t have a globe, I didn’t really have any maps or anything. So I didn’t kind of know the existence of other places such that I mean, only only traveled the first time probably after I graduated, so and my first trip was was the Amazon jungle for to do a research project on medicinal plants, with the shaman, you know, so I had some amazing kind of travels. But that was all with work.
David Ralph [16:30]
So you hadn’t done those kind of No,
Sarah Weldon [16:34]
no. And I didn’t, you know, I didn’t have a gap here. And then they weren’t, weren’t really heard of when I was at school. So they were kind of, you know, only rebels did those. So yeah, there was no expectation and I had no, you know, there was no really an opportunity to travel. I didn’t do documentaries or anything like that. So, you know, we kind of had little camping trips, maybe, but we didn’t, we didn’t do holidays and things. So yeah, so I mean, yeah, I kind of just play locally, then any any went traveling through work.
David Ralph [17:04]
So so when you got off the plane in the Amazon, you know that that is an experience, but most people would struggle with the enormity of it, you know, the fact that it just goes on forever in a day. And you are a tiny little dot? Did you feel empowered? Or did you feel insignificant? Did it? Was it too big for you from from coming from the United Kingdom coastline?
Sarah Weldon [17:27]
No, not at all. I think that’s where I really was bitten with the bug at that point. You know, I just, you know, I suddenly thought, you know, there’s a whole big world out here. And, you know, all this time has gone by, and I haven’t seen any of it. So, but I start, you know, making efforts. So and that was that was a fantastic trip, I took my my best friend who’s now a physiotherapist as well. And we went to what we were in the Amazon. And we spent time in Ecuador, and went to the Galapagos as well. So it was an absolutely amazing trip. And for it to be, you know, part of my work was was great. But you know, I wasn’t I wasn’t really there long enough to kind of travel as much as I would have. I could have spent a year there easily. And how old were you when you did this?
Probably 25, maybe something like that.
David Ralph [18:11]
So So did you sort of look back because I constantly now look back. And I don’t like to have any regrets. But I kind of think why the hell didn’t I start earlier? Why didn’t I start going for it earlier? Because I don’t know, wherever would be now. I just feel that that passion, that enthusiasm, that motivation to go the extra mile. And it’s very different from what you’re doing. But it’s still within me, I want to prove myself. I just think God, if I had started before I was 44. I could I could be somebody by now. So did you have that sort of that that middle ground before you started stepping into your path and think, well, I could have taken a chance?
Sarah Weldon [18:51]
Well, you know, I think everything on my path has led me to where I am now or the experiences I’ve had, and we’re all pretty much encompassed in in oceans project. So actually, in kind of retrospect, to me when I was when I was growing up, but when we didn’t have like Internet, you know, they weren’t podcast, they weren’t blogs, you know, websites. There weren’t even I think revision books at school. So I look at the kind of experiences now and then and young people I meet in the moment in my work, work in schools, and I just think, you know, wow, like to be a teenager now. There’s a lot of pressure on teenagers now, but in other ways, you know, they have some really incredible opportunities, you know, to go travelling to use Skype in the classroom, and, you know, things that just didn’t exist when I when I was kind of that age. So, yeah, I’m almost a second childhood, I think,
David Ralph [19:39]
oh, oh, you just get an old server. And you’re going
Unknown Speaker [19:43]
to say, it
David Ralph [19:44]
wasn’t my back in my day, is that out of your mouth for
Unknown Speaker [19:47]
Sarah Weldon [19:50]
But you know, even with, I’ve just recently I started like, besides to really enjoy this, I think I’ve just started to click with the social media and the website building and the marketing branding. And I know, I think he was kind of cut it, you know, I was thinking go, maybe I should have done that as a career, I would have probably really enjoyed it, but then it wouldn’t have existed when I was when I was kind of leaving school. So it would have been totally different
Unknown Speaker [20:13]
David Ralph [20:14]
absolutely right, what you say the world now has opportunities, but you just didn’t have five years, or 10 years ago. And the fact that I do this show, and I mentioned this quite a lot. I’ve created a radio station, basically. But its global. And yeah, the fact that you can get a computer, you can build a website. And I have stories with people like yourself and people every single day. And I think to myself, more often than not, that’s just mad, it is mad, but they believe they can do it is mad. They’re doing it. And it’s mad. But more often than not they can make a living at doing it. And it’s that last question, which I think is the thing that stops so many people, they, they see the things that look fun, they see the things that look adventurous and enjoyable. And I think that’s almost playing bats not work. That’s what I do at the weekend. Do you look at yourself and think to yourself, I’m the luckiest lady alive, even though you haven’t slept for four hours, because you’re rowing in a boat.
Sarah Weldon [21:13]
Yeah, I’ve been incredibly lucky. And a lot of people kind of look at me and think I’m a bit bonkers, because now I don’t have a great salary anymore. And I struggle I’ve only know kind of not had places to live because I’m down to pay rent. And so and I work really hard. I probably work about four in the morning until probably midnight most days. That’s that’s quite normal, like seven days a week. But the thing is that I really enjoyed that. And I’m almost addicted to the project. So it’s quite hard to take time off. And that’s all I talk about with with my friends and things. So yeah, but I feel you know, I do, I feel incredibly lucky. And I’ve had the most amazing journey as well with oceans projects. I mean, I it started off as a one off lesson to teach English, it was started by the children I worked with, and then kind of different experiences changed that and it grew and grew. So if we hadn’t had the Human Rights protests, then we wouldn’t have, you know, wouldn’t have been too dangerous for the kids to come into the lesson. And we wouldn’t have gone online. And then if that hadn’t happened, we wouldn’t have had all the children contacting us and signing up for the project that said, you know, I’m a girl, I’m not allowed to go to school. And I wouldn’t have met all the Olympic rowers and had the chance to learn to grow with them. And and then recently, as well, I had the chance to meet to Tim burners Lee, who invented the World Wide Web. So it’s the I think its 25th anniversary, since he invented it. But I’ve just had the most amazing experiences, kind of through the project. But I’d never, you know, didn’t have a business plan. It didn’t have, there was never an end goal. It was just something that’s kind of developed. And when I came back from Georgia, things like the smartphone and touch screens and iPads had been invented. So obviously, you know, when when rose savage did her ocean rose, the kind of the biggest technology really was tablet tracking device on the boat and to do blogs, but because the technology is there now, this is the first time ever, that anybody will have used wearable technology and a virtual learning platform to kind of share the expedition. But the, you know, the future of what could happen is is really kind of inspiring.
David Ralph [23:18]
Well, I want the listeners to really focus in on what you said. And the thing that I found was inspiring was there was no end goal, you just kind of done stuff, you just did things. Because that’s that is how it comes together, isn’t it. And that’s how you build the momentum. And I think the thing that holds so many people back, especially people that I talked to face to face, not involved in the show, but in the sort of outside world, that they all seem to want it to be perfect. They want the perfect situation to come along. Or they want the perfect website and they want the perfect fit. And I was speaking to a lady in that reunion again, you have a day. And she was saying, Oh, I’m not happy in my job. And I said, Well, what are you doing about it? Oh, well, I’m just waiting for VISTA happened. And I’m waiting for that to happen. And it’s never gonna happen. You know? If that all gets taken away from you, and you got sacked today, what would you do? You’d hustle, and you’d go out and make things happen? And that’s what you’re doing, isn’t it? That’s what you’re hustling?
Sarah Weldon [24:17]
Exactly. And I think that’s probably the difference as well of kind of the project started in one culture. So it started in Georgia, where there were no, I mean, I was involved in educational reform there. But there were there was nothing before everything was being started from scratch within the government. You know, all the police officers had all been sacked. And they got all new police officers in and it was about coming up with kind of, you know, teaching them train them working with the Navy there. And so everything I was doing there was started with with no, no rules, no, nothing kind of before it. So there was a lot of creativity there, which kind of enabled me to start this project, I was one of the only foreigners there, particularly from Britain. So there were no rules or regulation, is there anything I could just do things? No, nobody really question them. But then coming back now I find it quite hard, you know, if we’re if we’re applying for grants, quite often they want to see, you know, that kind of business plan. They want to see what our policy and all our procedures and but it really stifles that creativity. It’s it’s quite hard. And you know, people say watch your budget and know this, this product started with nothing. It’s and it’s all happened because we’ve just met really incredible people who supported us. But it’s hard to get people who are kind of ingrained in that culture sometimes to understand that, you know, it’s like, well, if we have budget, we do more, it’s as simple as that. But it doesn’t, you know, we don’t kind of say, right, I want this much money. And that’s what we’re going to use make it happen. It just kind of happens.
David Ralph [25:46]
I’ve been and I’m going to play some words in a moment, which are very inspirational. But I think but if you look back at like Martin Luther King, and he does these, I Have a Dream speech. We all remember that. I don’t want you to remember if he says, I have a business plan. Who would remember that? Yes.
Sarah Weldon [26:04]
That’s very true. Yeah, nobody,
David Ralph [26:06]
there’s got to be a passion. It’s got to be infused as them and yeah, is what is inspiring. And I’m a great believer that if you find somebody in your life that says I want the ins and outs of everything, I want your business plan, just say to them, I’m not interested, just walk away, because there’s too much effort involved. Wait till the right people come along that really believe in you. And that is the Rocket Power that fires your forward. Don’t Don’t go with those anchors that want to loot you down and want to find out everything that bores you. Just get rid of the boring people and go for the ones with the passion.
Sarah Weldon [26:37]
David Ralph [26:40]
Let’s play some very true, very true and very Randy, this is Jim Carrey
Jim Carrey [26:46]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. Our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [27:13]
Now you’re doing that those words really apply to you. I’ll buy you the words, but we’re missing out on giving to the children coming through because I come into think by your somehow.
Sarah Weldon [27:25]
Yeah. Recently, in October, my boat was on display at the Olympic Park, we had 100,000 minute city, London, Jordan can see it. And it was it was amazing thing. It was great to meet you all but it saddens me a little bit because I met so many kids who said they thought they were failures because they weren’t predicted in a star in their exams. And they kind of written themselves off. And I just thought, you know, that’s that’s incredibly sad for for our country. You know, if that’s how our kids are feeling like dinner? Well, what’s the point in bothering because I’m not gonna? I’m not going to get the you know, the great, you know, the a star?
David Ralph [28:01]
Did you do find that both? Oh, is that just? I don’t know, is that people talking to them? If you cut through that? Do you think that the kids actually do believe in themselves. And it’s just that they’ve got an escape route? Because my son is 13 and be 13 next week. And certainly, I feel that there’s a belief growing in him because of what I’m doing, that he can actually ignore what other people are saying and create his own path? And do you think that if you if you get away from that education system, and those reports and those those scores and all that kind of stuff, the kids actually believe in themselves, it’s just that we’re suppressing them by saying you’ve got to prove it. Because the end of the day and I’m a great believer in education go and work as hard as you can learn as much as you humanly can. But at the end of the day, all the things that have come right in my life, I’ve gone out and done myself, I don’t think my education has really helped me a lot. And I was very good and binary, I can’t remember binary a toenail?
Sarah Weldon [29:01]
Um, yeah, it’s a tricky one, I’m at it kind of sad to me, because I met them all. And, you know, initially, I thought there was a lot of revival there. And they they did look quite full of themselves, but then actually, you know, quickly became part and that was actually a front, and they will just try and look tough in front of their friends and things and, you know, actually came down to the fact that they just have no self worth. So there’s kind of that side to it. But I think there’s another side as well. So one of the things for me is that, you know, obviously meeting children around the world, I’ve met so many that would, you know, really fighting just for the chance for education, and education really means so much to them. And one of the things that the project and the platform is is about getting kind of our UK students and USA students to come together with which on the you know, we’ve got some children that are 12 years old, who’ve been human trafficked and, and our parents themselves, but they would give anything for the chance to have access to school. But when you bring those two kind of, I suppose, like the two cultures in the 212 years together, when they start when they start communicating with each other, you know, you’ve you, they’re teaching each other so much, and it has this kind of, it balances things out somehow. So you’ve got, you know, the the disadvantaged child really teaching the the kind of UK student who has the access to education, but then that, you know, that student is then kind of empower because they’re able to give that back. So what they’ve learned in school, and to really appreciate that they do have the chance to go to school. So yeah, it’s a strange kind of thing.
David Ralph [30:30]
So So do you actually buy into those words that Jim Carrey says personally? Do you think that you’ve actually taken a risk on doing what you love? Oh, now you into it? Do you kind of go? Well, actually, I don’t think it was too much of a risk.
Sarah Weldon [30:43]
Personally, I don’t think it was a risk at all. But I know for a lot of outsiders, you know, they still giving up a stable job. And I mean, even going to Georgia, they’re like, you know, you’re leaving, you’re leaving your secure job to go in this country that no one’s ever heard of when it’s supposed to be war, and, you know, from for siloed hundred pounds a month, which is a lot by Georgian standards. But so but I never felt, you know, for me, I was probably the happiest I’ve ever been when I was there. Even though materially I was probably poorer. So, and I learned so many really good lessons while I was there that I, you know, I still hold those very close. So, yeah, I don’t feel like it’s a risk at all. I mean, it’s been hard. I’m not saying it’s been easy, and it’s all been absolutely perfect. And, you know, there’s a lot of blood, sweat and tears going into projects as well. But to me, it’s worth it.
David Ralph [31:33]
But I can see, I can see why you were happy, because you were happy because there was no expectations. And that’s the thing, isn’t it? If you’re in a job, and you’re earning, I don’t know, 30,000 pounds a year, and you look over at somebody and they’re earning a lot more you think yourself, I should be earning that. I’m doing more than them. Yeah, but you take that all away. And it’s just kind of almost survival, isn’t it? It’s just get through it? And you go to bed?
Sarah Weldon [31:57]
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, when I, I, when I was working, I was working in a hospital in London, and, you know, had a really fancy flat. I never met my neighbors in the whole time I live there. And I probably spent hardly any time my flat talk because I was always at work. So whereas when I was in Georgia, you know, I probably had nothing. But my neighbors always knocking on the door and kind of like, Oh, we just made this and here we go. We’ve made you some as well. And if you didn’t, if they didn’t see me at least once in the day, they’d be wondering, oh, kind of, you know, what’s wrong? Where are you? What’s going on?
David Ralph [32:27]
Did you come up coming from the UK, that’s difficult to deal with, isn’t it because will be
Sarah Weldon [32:32]
very hard. First, and first one I was sharing with a family as well. So in a village on the border of Turkey and Armenia, and they found it very strange that what they were worried because I had the room on my own. And the Secondly, I close the door, so and they’d come in quite a lot. And you know, they basically they had not had my my host, Grandma, my host, Mama host dad, 16 year old 15 year old sister, 13 year old brother and a seven year old sister all sharing one bed. And they were worried because I was gonna be lonely, and I was gonna be cold on my own. Whereas for me, it was kind of, you know, I kind of like that privacy and that space. So eventually, I kind of got used to it. But yeah,
David Ralph [33:13]
that was that was a big shock at first. I think if you take away everything you’re doing your people person on you, I think you like to be with people.
Sarah Weldon [33:23]
I do in my day, I’m a bit strange. I’m kind of old on a thing. So when I’m with people, I love to be social. But I’m also a bit of a hermit as well. So what there you know, growing up, I would think nothing of kind of going off my own. Know, kind of as in my late teens, I’ve got a while and and like camp on an island with nobody living on it, and just spent whole summer like by myself. So I kind of like my own space. And I do like solitude. But when I’m social, I’m also rotation as well.
David Ralph [33:54]
Yeah, but I can see that that’s exactly. That’s exactly like me. And I can be the most social person in the world and the most anti social person. And I always say, if you put that much energy into being social, you need to reclaim it somehow. So in my house, I won’t answer the door, I want to answer the phone, even if the phone rings by me.
Unknown Speaker [34:14]
That’s me. And
David Ralph [34:16]
I’ve made sure I’ve got no mobile phone. I don’t own a phone, actually. So once I turn the computer off, that’s it, not one person can get me. So when I come and press the record, again, I’m on full flow because I’m ready for it. I’m waiting for a conversation. So I think that’s normal really, to want to sort of reclaim your own space somehow so that you can come back stronger.
Sarah Weldon [34:37]
Yeah, definitely. I’m just I’m not somebody who I mean, I’ve got some friends who like they constantly in relationships even if they’re with the wrong person, because they it’s like they have to have it have to be with somebody to kind of be themselves and I’m just totally not like that I get really grumpy and really just you know, I can’t I can’t cope with being with people all the time. It drives me crazy.
David Ralph [34:57]
So So let’s talk about these both because this fascinating you you very kindly sent me a little news clip that was on the news the other day, and it took me away from watching Madonna fall down flights of stairs, which was very amusing. That was on the telly Did you Did you see that?
Sarah Weldon [35:13]
I did it. I actually don’t have a TV because I’m always busy on projects.
I did I did see that. Everyone was talking about it. I thought what is this about?
David Ralph [35:24]
A woman of age to get back up and do her thing Ben Ben credit to Madonna credit to match you did well, but um, you sent me this this lovely news report. And they were showing the bow and I actually thought before you were coming onto the show that it was going to be like a little model Viking bow. But this is this is it’s like James Bond bow, isn’t it? Basically.
Sarah Weldon [35:45]
David Ralph [35:48]
Yeah, so So tell the listeners what you’re actually getting, and then build up to the super spy glasses that you were.
Sarah Weldon [35:56]
Ok. So the boat is one of two boats and exists. And it’s been designed by British yachtsman and an architect called Phil Morrison. And the guy who’s built it is called Charlie picture. And he’s he’s got the world record for the fastest crossing of the Atlantic Ocean. And so my boat is the sister boat to his which is called Soma. And there are only two of them. So the kind of yes sisters, and it’s built from a composite of carbon Kepler. So it’s about 20 foot long, six foot wide. And it’s kind of my floating classroom, my my floating home, and my science lab as well. And so that’s going to be where I spend all my time. So it doesn’t have a bathroom. And it has a kind of a little cabin, where have a mattress for bed. And it’s not, I don’t think we really call it a bed because that makes it sound like more than it is but and you can’t stretch out properly so you kind of have to sleep in fetal position. And then there’s a space where in the middle of the boat, there’s a cabin on either end basically, I’m not explain this very well. There’s one Kevin for kind of sleeping in, which has all my navigation and electrical kit in the middle of it is where the rowing position is, which is uncovered. So open to all the elements. And then the smaller cabin on the other end is where I keep all my all my storage stuff. So my life raft, my spare food, and everything else. About point. Yeah,
David Ralph [37:21]
but the listeners, if you think about an old telephone receiver, that’s how I saw it.
Sarah Weldon [37:26]
That’s the best way to describe it. Actually, I have to remember that one.
And then my toilet is buckets, which isn’t very glamorous.
David Ralph [37:36]
All the way around?
Unknown Speaker [37:39]
Sarah Weldon [37:41]
well, I don’t know. I mean, I’m quite advanced with the bucket. So yeah, I mean, the Vikings actually didn’t have buckets, they used to hold their friends hand and lean over the side. So then I’d have to go to the toilet. But because I’m doing a lot of science research, normally use a method called bucket and chuck it. So you do your business. And then you kind of put the bucket over the side on the rope, and you swish it all out, and then store it away for it for next time. But because I’m doing a lot of science research, I actually have to collect my pool every day, which can be quite tricky, because obviously the boat would bouncing around quite a lot. So I have to put it into these kind of small patches, and then store it. For the 14 weeks my journey
David Ralph [38:23]
to gain from Batman really.
Sarah Weldon [38:25]
And the site was not me, it’s the scientists, the other scientists. And so they want to look at the effects of calorific stress on my body. So because I’m going to use up about 8000 calories a day while I’m at sea. So I’ve had to put forth owning weight on already. And they want to see whether my body gets more efficient in using the calories. So using the fat, or whether it just gets the stage where it can’t really go within it just kind of gets rid of it. So they want to see kind of what’s coming out the other end in terms of nutrients.
David Ralph [38:58]
The scientists they need to know to too much don’t know.
Sarah Weldon [39:02]
Yes, but I’m on the plus side, it’ll actually give quite a lot of useful data for patients and hospital. And also people who are quite remote environments, obviously looking towards kind of Mars exploration and things like that. So it’s quite interesting as well,
David Ralph [39:18]
I’m don’t we I’m not going to dwell on this. But I know we all produce this stuff. But that’s not that because I think that would embarrass me getting back to shore and been going a year ago, there’s a load of it. And knowing that I was the producer.
Sarah Weldon [39:32]
Well, it’s an endeavor at the moment, because the kids are fascinated, right? We’ve got more than 17,000 kids around the world that are gonna be following live. And all the teachers I’m working with all the kids helping to develop the platform, are all really excited about the new side and the science side. And obviously, as a kind of science communicator, that’s great for me, because I want to get them interested in science. So the dilemma at the moment is whether I actually upload pictures of my pill every day. So that because there’s a thing called the Bristol stool chart way, which is used in hospitals. So, which is something that doctors and nurses have to do all the time. So me as a PT, then they look to see what kind of shape and format is. So yeah, they they’re kind of interested in doing something like that at the moment. But I’m not quite sure if I want to reveal that much.
David Ralph [40:23]
There was no reason to do any research on this show at all. Do you see this is the only bit that anyone will remember that. Did you hear that poor lady? Oh, yeah, she was brilliant. What was she doing for it? I’ve got no idea. But she’s doing it in a bucket and pulling it up, I’m sure. Yeah, shocking. But it says more about you again, because Would you be able to do that? So 10, 1520 years ago? Or have you kind of grown into that, but it’s part of the process?
Sarah Weldon [40:55]
I don’t know, I suppose I’ve always been a little bit like that. I mean, I’ve it’s been kidding me. I mean, I always I didn’t enjoy science at school because I was in math. So I was always kind of taught I wasn’t very good at them. So was actually before I went to school, I always felt like I was always, you know, the person who was kind of, I love seeing how things work. And now with the project, like having to learn how the electrics works, I can fix them on the bow and do the math side, I actually quite enjoy the math challenges and things, which so I you know, considering I’m not great at math and science, in some ways is a bit strange. But I just think that’s part of my schooling that I had that ingrained in me that I wasn’t very good at them. So if I can, if I can get if I can make it so that kids really enjoy that process. So if I can have, for example, they kids have to learn about solar energy as part of the natural curriculum. So instead of it just being really boring, high tech stuff, if they can spend their summer holiday, following the Ocean Road live from their mobile phone, and they can see the you know, the solar solar panels on my boat really important. They know that we know life saving, because that’s what makes the electricity that powers my laptop. And it’s what powers the desalinate that turns, see walk into my drinking water. So if I can excite a kid, by putting that into a real context for them, that when they get back to school, they then go, oh, oh, I get that. Because that’s what it’s all by, then to me, it’s worth it. So I’m, you know, I’m not shy at all.
David Ralph [42:24]
Are you actually staying on the boat all the time? Are you getting off,
Sarah Weldon [42:28]
and I will be getting off.
But traditionally, you probably like if you take an X ray, you normally kind of complete self sufficient, which is why I’m aiming for. But because we’ve got all the kids kind of falling around the coast, the parents to come in at certain points as I go around, and to do my science comedy show as well. And to kind of meet the kids and connect with them more just to make it a bit more interactive.
David Ralph [42:54]
And do you have anyone sort of following you? Do you have a lot of divers by the side of you swimming along or anything? Are you totally on your own?
Sarah Weldon [43:00]
I’m on my own Yes, completely my own and when I’m at sea, but I will have a land support team that kind of deal with a lot of the day to day logistics. So if I break my or then, you know, rather than me actually having to carry them, I can just put them on the vehicle and pick it up and have a certain number of spares. But that means that they can then organize logistics for that, which would be a lot easier. And we’re also working with the institution, mechanical engineers, so all of their regions, some some of the members work on things like the power stations or on all the rigs on the trains, doing all different things. So the nice thing is, I could come into my life Blackpool, and be met by some of the engineers who can then give me a tour of the local area. So it’s just about kind of, it’s about exploring the Viking places and the engineering side. But then doing these virtual field trips so that the kids can kind of see live where I am what’s going on and ask the questions that they want to ask. So I’m really just the eyes and the ears of the kids. I promise
David Ralph [44:00]
you. A lot of people out there listening probably don’t know Blackpool, but you’ll be back on your boat in a second. Don’t put two feet on the shore and you’ll be back in when you said that you were you were putting weight on it you put on four stone is that difficult for a lady to do that because ladies always want to shed the weight. So was was that liberating to know that you could just eat what you want and drink what you want and party on.
Sarah Weldon [44:29]
It was quite well, time probably because I came it was just as I came back from Georgia, and I really missed so many foods from I missed the variety I missed, like all these tasks still have these cravings for different tastes and textures. Because the Jordan diet just isn’t as exciting. Jordan is going to kill me now. But yeah, I didn’t go on great with Jordan food. So it was it’s been really good because I can pretty much see anything I want. But I think the latest ages have got really really hard now because I get our first quite easily and I keep being introduced as a celebrity rower and things which is quite weird.
David Ralph [45:06]
You are but I don’t know how many other people are doing it. Well not not know, people have done it. None use your celebrity.
Sarah Weldon [45:19]
Yeah, but this is kind of what you know, it’s quite strange because just being issued as a rower and I’m still quite new to the whole rowing thing. And I’ve also just because, you know, I woke up a flight of stairs, and I want to get out of breath quite easily. And I struggle to do it my shoe laces and I’m at the stage now. And the clothes shops, like I have a lot more sympathy now for anybody who’s is a little bit overweight, or you know, is pregnant, because actually finding clothes to wear is really, really hard. And it’s like when you get to certain certain size and then people just go Oh, that’s it, like you just don’t exist anymore. So and I was I was invited recently to an event in London with Eva Longoria and Victoria Beckham were there. And I just thought, you know, I went to shots trying, I just want to dress, it was hot. I’ve never worn a dress in my life. And I hate shopping. I hate anything like that. But you know, it’s for the good of the charity. And so I thought, okay, you know, I’ll go down, I couldn’t find a dress that would fit me. And, and I’m not like, massive. I mean, I’m officially obese now, but I’m probably only a size 16. But I could not find a dress that was suitable for for that event, which was a real shocker. But did you walk around sort of saying to people know, this way, Tom, because of the challenge? Are you kind of having to justify yourself? I think I’m doing it more now. Just because, you know, if I’m in the gym, and I’m training, then that could have people coming and looking really sporty and their size eight and I’ve never been a size eight. But I never had like, I’ve never been the kind of person to weigh myself before. And I’ve never and I’m not well, fashion, my hair’s always a mess. I kind of you know, I wasn’t quite scruffy in my fleeces and things. So I never had an issue before. But now, now I’m a bit more kind of, I don’t know, I find it a bit more strange now. Because the especially like, a lot of sponsors have given me some really cool kit to wear. But actually a lot of it doesn’t fit me now. So I can’t go back and say, you know, you know that athlete kit you gave me I’m sorry, doesn’t actually fix I’m too fat. But yeah, it’s a very strange thing. And even just go to the doctors, I had to go and register recently. And the nurse who was little bit large herself, I have to say she kind of looked at me and said, what do you do know you’re obese? And I was like, Yes. So that was quite strange.
David Ralph [47:35]
I tell you, well, we’re alienating doctors, you you’ve enjoyed the whole country in Georgia. Black poll, we’re going to be hunted down I’ll be I’ll be swimming out and jumping into the other interview. Without the bucket and I kick which which is the bucket in just said I’m aware,
Sarah Weldon [47:52]
it’ll be in the middle of it.
David Ralph [47:54]
I wasn’t that’s the worst place for in there. Shouldn’t you have it at the far end?
Sarah Weldon [47:59]
What I wouldn’t, we want to have it in the cabin, because that gets quite messy. And in fact, if the weather’s bad, then I’ll be in the cabin. That’s one of the things you can’t do is go to the toilet for a couple of days. So we have to be very careful. But yeah, you can’t go inside. But I do have a very cool gadget, which I haven’t, I can’t need to practice with I’m a little nervous still, which is called a Chevy. And basically enables us to be like a boy. So I’m trying to find the opportune moments test that you could you
David Ralph [48:29]
could do it now we would know. What are you? What are you waiting for a moment?
Sarah Weldon [48:36]
That’s a good question. No to Glastonbury
David Ralph [48:37]
or something up. Tonight, yeah, you’d be went away, you’d be went away. somewhere. Where’s it going to lead then? So this is a big challenge at the moment. But as I said in the introduction, is this like just a lead on to something else do you think when you get back, you’ll have like three or four months thinking never again. And then I wouldn’t mind rowing across I don’t know, the Atlantic or something silly.
Sarah Weldon [49:06]
Well, actually, the ocean is a very small part of, of the the charity, which is oceans project. So the plan is to actually do an ocean every year. So that could be a non fight do I’d like to get around Britain once kind of stopping off just to see if it’s even possible. But then perhaps to do it again, nonstop. And I’d also really like to do the Amazon River, and perhaps road to the North Pole. But for now, I just want to get one road. But the idea is that the kit will be there. Once you’ve got it all it will be there, the training will be there. And to do a row every year as a way of bringing the ocean live and raising money to continue the work we do so because basically we the money we’re raised provides tablet computers, and so the charges and instant access to children that don’t have the chance to go to school. So this is a nice way of kind of raising funds without having to pay for grants and having to keep looking for donations from people. Because you get got a really nice publicist called Amanda. And she’s she’s great at kind of organizing paid publicity and talks and kind of TV series like following the expedition as well. And that brings in the funds that allow us to continue running it.
David Ralph [50:17]
Are you going to be on telly? Is there a series?
Sarah Weldon [50:20]
That’s the plan? Yes.
David Ralph [50:22]
Yes. What channel for for us all terrestrial people or digital? Is it going to be on what
Sarah Weldon [50:28]
I’m hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, it’ll be BBC, but we’re not sure. I mean, it hasn’t been signed yet. It will be a nice kind of final stages. So I think there are two different documentaries kind of lined up. So yeah, it’s gonna be really interesting.
David Ralph [50:42]
If you need a voice over man, I don’t know where he should go. So yeah, I’m gonna practice seven was upset this morning. She’s put a lot of weight on and she’s having trouble finding clothes to fit. I can talk about that all the way through.
Sarah Weldon [50:58]
David Ralph [51:00]
That’d be that’d be great. So my last question is really, and this might be the most stupid question you’ve ever been asked. So just imagine I am the most stupid person, you’ll find it easier to accept it when you were saying that you’d like to wrote to the North Pole. Isn’t that? Yeah, ice, don’t you get to an age and then you’ve got to get on board. How do you know to the North Pole?
Sarah Weldon [51:20]
Well, sadly, because of the ice melting. It has been done before. By some guys who were drunk was hard was one of them. And they were sponsored by I think all partly whiskey, which is one of the definitely the one of the advantages of not doing it as an educational project. Can you can get sponsored by whiskey people. But yeah, they’ve actually done it before. So they they got some nice ball.
David Ralph [51:45]
I think it was possible.
Sarah Weldon [51:46]
It shouldn’t be possible. But uh, sadly, I think it is.
David Ralph [51:50]
He’s asked without microwaves and stuff, isn’t it?
Sarah Weldon [51:53]
Nose balls as well. So
David Ralph [51:59]
hey, Hang on. Hang on. You’re blowing my mind here. There’s different no propose?
Sarah Weldon [52:04]
Yes, there’s therefore. So there’s going to be found off polls.
David Ralph [52:07]
It is a pole. Is it not?
Sarah Weldon [52:11]
there for them for them? So there’s the northern Parliament inaccessibility, which is the furthest point from land, which no one has made it to yet. So that’s something I would I thought that’d be an absolute dream to get there. And then there’s a geographical pole, the magnetic pole. And I forgot what that on Bob’s. But there’s another one.
David Ralph [52:33]
I am busy. as well. I am physically shock. So you might put in all the effort. And you got hard. This is fantastic. And you have a photo opportunity and a selfie. And when someone says to you, you realize you’re at the wrong one. What selfie? You know, 250 miles to go? Oh, my God.
Sarah Weldon [52:50]
Well, that’s actually happened before? I’m not sure about the selfie parks, I think I don’t think they had that kind of communication, man. But yeah, somebody I think got very close to the northern part of inaccessibility. And then when they got back, I don’t think they were intentionally going there. But when they got back, they realized that they were quite close to it. But they haven’t actually got to it.
David Ralph [53:11]
Oh, I tell you, well, I’m gonna have you back on I’m gonna have you back on and probe you for all this kind of information that I just didn’t know was possible. Yeah, you like a live Wikipedia.
Unknown Speaker [53:21]
Hi, which is
Sarah Weldon [53:25]
my name is anything but you know, you know,
David Ralph [53:27]
the stuffing, you know what to do with po when you’re out on a boat, which is always good. Always good to know. Well, I’m gonna play the theme of the show now, because it’s got great relevance to all our guests. And I’m going to be fascinated whether it has a relevance to you as well. And it’s the reason why we pulled the show join up dots This is Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs [53:47]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [54:22]
So Oh, by you sort of words, but tie up with your life. Can you actually look back and go? Yeah, actually, I remember playing with adders. And that led on to this. And that led them to that. Can Can you see how you got here?
Sarah Weldon [54:34]
Definitely. And it’s something I find sometimes quite frustrating, you know, who will say like, what can you give us your CV and, and then and the class and people kind of look at it and think, you know, will you kind of all over the place and like you haven’t we had a plan. And I think, you know, actually, I have had a plan. And it’s kind of come full circle. So, you know, I started off in kind of environmental outdoor education, and which led me into working with patients had had kind of acquired brain injuries, some of those deployments, and which then kind of led to, you know, working in different ways. And I got to diving medicine. And that led me on to that working on film productions. And then the New York psychology side kind of add on to, you know, getting invited to Georgia to work on education reform project. So I think, to me, it’s all kind of the same thing. But it’s all being kind of, you know, I very much feel that it has been leading me to the point where I am now. And all of the things I’ve learned on that journey are really all kind of ingrained in oceans project. So there’s a bit of kind of scuba diving medicine, there’s been a bit of the kind of the neuro psychology of working with people with brain injuries or learning difficulties, and helping them with education. That’s definitely in there as well. And then the love of the environment as well. So yeah, no, I definitely agree with that.
David Ralph [55:54]
And do you have a big dog? Do you have the one where you go? Yeah, that’s actually when it started to speed on that was the most.
Sarah Weldon [56:01]
Yeah, I think it probably came when my when my grandfather died, actually. And I’d spent probably 17 years in the NHS. And I remember trying to get time off to go to his funeral. And I had to it was such a such a kerfuffle to try it time off. And I just thought, you know, I spent my life looking after other people. And, you know, I was always personally called when, you know, tons of sequel of short stuff. And I always went in, you know, Christmases, weekends, everything. And I thought, you know, the one day I actually want a day off something important, and I’m having to justify it. And it just happened that was around the same time that I was invited to Georgia. And I thought, you know, what, like, I need to do something because I don’t spend the rest of my life kind of, you know, being dictated to by other people about things aren’t necessarily important to me. So yeah, that was that was definitely a defining moment.
David Ralph [56:54]
Here here. I say, yes. There’s so much about in life isn’t there where you kind of go? I’ll come on, just look at look at it in a wider sense. This is just one day, I just need one day away, but they sort of tie you up. Yeah, I remember that so many times in corporate life, and it used to drive me mad that there’s more to life than, you know, sit at your desk every single day.
Sarah Weldon [57:14]
I think, you know, probably from being in Georgia as well. I mean, I got to Georgia, and like, there’s no, there’s no concept of I mean, I talked to school sometimes and be like, Well, where is everybody? And they say, Oh, it’s close today, then it had monsters got hangover. So we’ve closed the school for the day. And, you know, you have meetings to death, right? Very true. And I actually got the point where I just kind of when people plan, like I just thought planning things, because I was very regimented by my diary and my watch, until I went to Georgia and and I just got fed up with it. I couldn’t have Kate, I couldn’t have survived. I had to adapt. But I love that kind of flexibility, because we didn’t have electricity all the time. And so when we did get it, like, people just wouldn’t turn up to work with school, like nobody would come in because the electricity Come on. And you had to make the most of it, like to get your jobs done at home. And you know, we’ve done the computer, we’re doing whatever. And I think now coming coming back to Britain, it’s quite funny because I still don’t have a watch. And if I you know, if I’m if I’m going to meeting and my train is late, I don’t stress about it anymore. I just kind of think, Oh, well, I’m going to be late, you know, or if I meet someone in the street, and I haven’t seen them for a year, I’ll stop and have a chat with them. Even if I’m supposed to be somewhere because I just think Well, I haven’t seen them for a year. So you know, I might not see them the front of the year certainly wants to make the most of the time in their work and wait, you know, it’s still gonna be there. You know, five minutes later, I’m five minutes late. But you know, how many times have I stayed late after work? So yeah, I think Yeah, those things are what matters in life.
David Ralph [58:43]
Absolutely. And not not headmaster’s with hangovers. That’s
Sarah Weldon [58:49]
great in terms of employment and, you know, fitting into British society. Yeah, everyone knows now if I’m late, that’s probably why
David Ralph [58:57]
you listen to my big buck barrel live a staff training days, and especially a teacher training days, I think, yeah, you’re a teacher, you shouldn’t need to be trained all the time. But I teach headmaster with a hangover. I don’t know if that’s brilliant. Oh.
Sarah Weldon [59:14]
Well, to be fair, I mean, that’s that’s kind of a cultural thing as well, it was quite hard to get my head round. But I mean, quite often, the seven year olds in my class would would have hangovers as well. Because the kids in Georgia drink. They every every family makes their own kind of wine. And it’s considered, it kind of goes to the Orthodox Christian. And it’s kind of like the blood of Christ, and it has this big kind of connection. So quite often, the kids would have been drinking, so especially the boys is a lot of pressure on the boys to drink quite a lot. And every family probably drinks You know, every person will drink about two liters one a day, every day. So the number of times where kids are coming in and yeah, have hangovers. Also, Georgian kids don’t have bedtimes either. Nobody tells them off. Just allowed to kind of just be so uh, yeah, for a different culture.
David Ralph [1:00:04]
I’ve just found out that my wife must be Georgian. And I had, I had no idea. Well, this is the end of the show. And this is the bit that we call the Sermon on the mic when we send you back in time. And just before I do this, I just want to say that yes, you’re absolutely right. There are four poles, because I’ve googled it. And the one that I’m going to go for is the geographic pole, because that’s right at the top. That’s got to be the right one, isn’t it? You’ve got the pole of an accessibility. That’s somewhere that doesn’t seem right. The magnetic pole. That’s just a dock. And the geomagnetic pole.
Sarah Weldon [1:00:37]
Yeah, that was the one Yeah,
David Ralph [1:00:38]
yeah. So So if anyone’s got an urge to go to the pole, go to the geographic pole, it’s right at the top. That’s got to be the right one in it. That’s the one. Well, I’m going to send you back in time now because this is part of the show that we call the Sermon on the mic. And if you could go back in time and speak to the youngest, Sarah, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, we’re going to find out now because I’m going to play the theme and when fights you up, this is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [1:01:10]
We go with the best of the show.
Sarah Weldon [1:01:28]
So my advice myself not for any particular age I think for all ages would just be to live for the moment is a always planning and planning and planning and living for the future. Just live in the now.
David Ralph [1:01:42]
Well said short punchy but absolutely right for what join up dots is all about. So how can our audience connect with you and of course support oceans project.
Sarah Weldon [1:01:53]
Well, the best place to go is the website which is www dot oceans project. com if you type in at oceans project then you can follow me on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram as well.
David Ralph [1:02:07]
We will have all the links on the show notes. So you’ve been absolute delight. Thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots and please come back again when you have more dots to join that because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures several Weldon Thank you so much.
Sarah Weldon [1:02:24]
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