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Introducing Julie Gohring
Julie Gohring is todays guest joining us on the Join Up Dots business podcast.
It is very lucky that we have today’s guest on the show, as quite simply its rare that we can get her away from the beach.
Yep, she loves nothing more than frolicking around in the surf and the sand, whilst earning an income at the same time.
I know what you are thinking “That can’t be possible!! Days at the beach are for vacations and weekends, not for the working day”
But she certainly has turned that mind-set on its head, as she now lives in Tamarindo in Costa Rica, and teaches clients alongside her boyfriend Nick, how to feel fit and healthy.
She believes that your health and fitness is fundamental to living a full and happy life.
Not only can it change your body and allow you to experience more fun in the physical world, but also it creates a positive attitude that carries over into other parts of your life.
How The Dots Joined Up For Julie
But this is one of those stories where you can see the dots joining up from her early age, as her Dad really installed a belief that a well-lived life was something to be nurtured and never taken for granted.
And from her base in San Francisco she was literally in touching distance of her partner and business partner Nick, and never got a chance to touch….or should I say meet.
So is this a life that looks totally glorious from the outside but is as hard work as going to a cubicle everyday?
And does she feel now that humans have to think bigger and bigger to reap the rewards that are out there for all of us?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only Julie Gohring
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Julie Gohring such as:
How she struggles to truly explain how she has managed to earn an income and live her life on the beach when she meets someone new.
How she remembers laying out on the water in Costa Rica and knowing from deep within her heart that she had to move back and this time stay for good.
How she worked hard to achieve great success in her corporate gig, but still knew inside that it wasn’t enough and would never be enough.
How you need to start on the ground, and start building connections and work, work, work towards the tipping point of success.
Why you should really focus in what makes you come alive and stick to the things that make you happy, which will help to grab success.
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Full Transcription Of Julie Gohring Interview
David Ralph [0:00]
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when we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:38]
Yes, hello there, everybody and welcome to Join Up Dots. This is Episode 330 from the UK. I’m David Ralph and we are going tropical today. We’re going all the way over to Costa Rica and this lady today is going to talk about her life. Obviously that’s what we do on Join Up Dots and there’s a good chance that you’re gonna dislike her because Quite honestly, it’s lucky that we’ve got her because she’s basically on the beach all the time. It’s rare that we can get her away from the beach. Yeah, she loves nothing more than frolicking around in the surf and the sand was earning an income at the same time. And now I know what you’re thinking that can’t be possible days at the beach or for vacations on weekends, not for the working day. But she certainly has turned her mindset on its head as she now lives in tammer window in Costa Rica, and teaches clients alongside a boyfriend Nick how to feel fit and healthy. She believes that your health and fitness is fundamental to living a full and happy life not only can change your body and allow you to experience more fun in the physical world, but also it creates a positive attitude that carries over into other parts of your life. Now, this is one of those stories where you can see the dots joining up from an early age as a dad really installed a belief that a well lived life was something to be nurtured and never taken for granted. And from her base in San Francisco. This is a bit weird as well. She was literally in touching this Our partner and business partner, Nick, and never got a chance to touch or should I say me? So is this a life that looks totally glorious from the outside, but he’s as hard work as going to a cubicle every day? Or does she feel that now humans have to just think bigger and bigger to reap the rewards that are out there for all of us? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dance with the one and only Julie Gohring, how are you doing?
Julie Gohring [2:26]
I’m great. David, thank you so much for that intro. Wow. That’s great.
David Ralph [2:32]
That’s your life, isn’t it? And it is, um, you know, I’m going to cut to the chase here because we got so much to talk about. But it’s, it’s one of those kind of lifestyles that you’ve created by your mindset, your positive, outgoing attitude and all that kind of stuff, which for many people listening will go hang on, hang on. She spends her time at the beach and she gets paid for it. But does it sound kind of mad? Well, when you’re telling people are you slightly embarrassed, but you’re gonna say that kind of thing.
Julie Gohring [3:00]
You know, that’s that’s a great question and, and that really does come down to mindset because when I do share what my day to day life is here with my friends and my family back home It is very, very different. And you know, people constantly tell me Gosh, Julie, you’re so lucky to be able to do that. And, you know, how did you do that and this and that, and simply, it comes down to like, you can do it too. It’s literally a decision that you have to make for yourself, but it’s it’s not something that is only like specific that I can have. It’s available to everyone.
David Ralph [3:41]
And so do you kind of go well actually, I kind of work on the beach. Is it all under your breath?
Julie Gohring [3:49]
Oh, no, it’s definitely not under my breath at all because you know, I have this business. actually have two fitness business one online. One imperson where we do all this training, fitness, exercise training, and it’s on the beach, so I’m actually working on the beach every day with clients. And then on top of that, I also am very active at the beach. I’m always surfing and running on the beach and working out there. So it’s kind of something that like goes hand in hand with talking to me. So yeah, I don’t really keep it under the breath. It’s pretty much right out there. Because I
David Ralph [4:30]
I do when somebody asks me what I do for a living, I haven’t got comfortable enough to say what I do. And I don’t know why. It’s all like when people know me personally from my past life, but actually I was in a pub the other day and these two girls came up to my mate, nothing to do with me why if you’re listening, this this just happened. And they said, you know, what do you do for a living? And I turned to my mate and said, What do you do for a living? I didn’t want to say it felt it felt kind of, I don’t know weird, because it’s one of those jobs but I Come tangibly explain how it’s occurred, even though it’s a lot of work. And so I struggle with expressing what I actually do.
Julie Gohring [5:09]
Yeah, no, I understand I completely I, when you when you say it in that way, like the specifics of how you’re able to, like run a business, and you know, and create income for yourself, and do it online through all these different platforms, I think that is so, you know, on the brink, and like, you know, it hasn’t hit mainstream and people working their normal lot, you know, in their normal corporate jobs, or what have you, like, aren’t really tapped into this whole online world. So when you start to, like, try to explain that people just look at you like, What are you talking about? And I really actually relate to it because before you know, I moved to Costa Rica, like so five years back for a decade. I worked worked in the corporate world. And I worked in pharmaceutical and biotech sales. And I literally every day was walking into doctors offices talking to them. And the only time I got on my computer was at night really quick to do like some administrative work for my job. So I didn’t even really understand this online world out there and this technology and how it connects us and just the potential of what you can do with it. And it’s, it’s, you know, only now being in this for five years, do I understand it? So I fully also kind of, I fully understand when people look at me, and they have no idea what I’m talking about, or how I have been able to create it because I was there to say, so how do you
David Ralph [6:45]
do this? How for the listeners out there, but I going like how did she do it? She’s working in pharmaceuticals. And the interesting thing with you in your LinkedIn profile, you’re very business there’s a business persona and it kinda stops. And Ben the beachy person doesn’t get involved in your LinkedIn profile somehow it’s like a, it’s an alter ego you’ve got now if you spend enough time stalking you virtually like I have, there’s not a lot of business side to it. Now you’re in bikinis you’re running around. You’re looking fit and healthy in a bit. Sandy, it’s been the perfect job this week, Julie stalking your promise you. So was was that a mixed decision to actually almost close off your business life on LinkedIn and then sort of move to your new profile?
Julie Gohring [7:33]
That’s a good question. I think. I mean, to be as honest as possible, I don’t think that I ever really have updated my LinkedIn profile with what I’m currently doing here. So it’s still really stuck in my pharmaceutical biotech sales, like life from you know, a decade ago. So that’s what I and I probably need to update that. So that’s probably why that is like that. Um, but the other thing is, is that you know, living in Costa Rica right like doing that kind of work and in within that kind of system doesn’t exist here in Costa Rica you can’t the first of all, they don’t have the same kind of health care system that we have in the US so jobs like that don’t exist. And and in secondly, they’re just it’s just, it’s a people make money and the economy works totally different here than it does there. So in a sense, you have to reinvent yourself when you move to another culture, another country, especially a developing world, one that you know, isn’t as far along in their development lifecycle and their economy and what they have to offer so, so I think it’s partly a product of that, you know, I couldn’t come to Costa Rica and and do the same work that I did in San Francisco.
David Ralph [8:57]
So So how did your mindset shift was it when you met Nick, were you already on that path? But when you met Nick, it sort of sped up somehow. Because you were as we were saying, you were corporate in an hour all the way through, but didn’t seem to be any running around on a beach in the in the future, looking at your past, but suddenly your mindset has changed. Was it overnight? Was it over a period of two or three years? Tell us about it?
Julie Gohring [9:26]
Yeah, that’s a great question. So I ever since I was a young girl, I always had this latent desire to live on the beach. I grew up a competitive swimmer. I was always in the water. We took a lot of beach vacations. I’m a complete son girl, so I always had this in me and wanted to get to a beach but, you know, I never really quite knew how to do it, but I did promise myself you know, someday I would get there. So you know, once I got out of college, You know, when I started looking for work, you know, I thought about some beach towns in California, but the jobs just weren’t there. So my professional career really dictated where I live, but I still did a tonne of travelling, I went on a lot of beach vacations, and it and it was still a big part of my life. So, so that was always there. But I guess, you know, after being in the pharmaceutical industry for I don’t know, five to seven years and reaching a moderate level of success. And just, you know, and and sort of achieving everything that sort of, I could achieve, like, you know, making the kind of money I wanted getting this sort of promotions and his success they wanted and, you know, setting up my like living in a great city and all of that, you know, I knew that like I wanted something more and so I started exploring what that would be is that like moving up to a higher position in the company going back to graduate school. You know, what am I going to do? And as I started to do that I started to reflect on you know what, what I wanted and this latent desire kept coming up for me and kept coming up for me. And, and then a few serendipitous events happened to me, where it became very, very clear that like, I needed to go to Costa Rica. So
David Ralph [11:24]
like was this thesis that juicy stuff?
Julie Gohring [11:28]
This serendipitous event. Yeah, so Okay, so I had like, I’m first of all, a big traveller, and I think it’s like one of the most important things that you can do. And so probably at the time, I started reflecting on this, I had already travelled to Costa Rica, three or four times and really like loved it. I was into surfing so I really loved like the surf culture here. And just the simplicity of life and just, you know, it’s great weather every single single day of the year. And then, you know, one day I was just working my job I was in Palo Alto, California sitting in a doctor’s office waiting to speak to this physician that was patiently just sitting there in the waiting room and I started chatting up this woman sitting next to me who was a patient going to see the doctor. And we started chatting and within this conversation she shared with me that she was an expat. She lived in Costa Rica. The town that she lived in was the town a town I had been to many times she owned a hotel there and the My favourite beach and restaurant and all of Costa Rica we discovered was the restaurant her daughter owned so it was really strange for me to have been like reflecting on this thinking about it and then meeting this lady. And so anyway, we kept in touch and she but she really brought a live for me. I always wondered like how do you become an expat? How does someone do That, how do you make your life work and so having that connection, and that physical, you know, like manifestation in my life of someone that did that was really empowering and it it set. A lot of it’s set me off to meet a lot of other people that opened doors, so to speak. And then after that, and I went to Costa Rica again after I met her and you know, she introduced me to more people. And it became very clear to me one day, laying in the ocean that it wasn’t like a an intellectual thought, but really just something more like I was in flow and more from my body, but like similar in me, I knew I needed to come here and I know that sounds a little, I don’t know, like, not tangible. But if you’ve ever gotten into that space of just knowing something that doesn’t come from your brain, but that comes from your heart. I had that here. So anyway, that happened to me. And then the next serendipitous event was that year, I ended up qualifying for this very elite sales Ward trip. It’s like the top 5% of the company win for their sales performance. And I, and I wasn’t tracking, I didn’t think I was going to qualify. I knew it was up there, but I didn’t think it and so anyway, I ended up winning this. And the trip and all the awards and accolades took us right here to tamarindo Costa Rica. And so when I came back again, so now I’ve been here six times, it just really became clear to me that that there was something for me, because all these things kept leading me back here. And so within six months of that, I ended up coming down here.
David Ralph [14:50]
That’s a brilliant story, though, isn’t it? Don’t you think even when you’re telling that do not think this this is like a little movie with Julia Roberts. I could see this
Julie Gohring [15:00]
Yeah, because there’s actually even more details to it, but it would be just getting too nuanced to destroy. But absolutely, and I think one of the coolest part of the story is that, you know, now I, you know, run two businesses with my boyfriend. And he I met here in Costa Rica, about a few months after living here. But we actually lived four blocks away from each other in San Francisco, we worked out at the exact same gym and we never knew each other, it took us to coming here to meet each other. So I mean, I think that is is a really powerful part of the story to that is so cool, because I can see how, who he is. He also worked a corporate job as well and who he was and who he circled around and who I was and who I circled around, we probably would have never met in San Francisco but but here, aligned being aligned to like who we Really, we’re in our passions and not just letting our like corporate like lives sort of dictate, you know, our friends and our hobbies and all that, but really coming aligned with ourselves. It was like magic. So
David Ralph [16:12]
the thing, that’s the key thing in that entire story, I think, is the moment that you’re laying out on the water in Costa Rica. And you’re probably not thinking anything at all. But your heart starts that starts talking. And you, you know, you called it being in a state of flow, I would call it being in a state of bliss. But whatever it is, it’s something that when it comes together, you just know, don’t you and I talked about this on the show so many times, and I’m sure you had this in your corporate life as I did. But more often than not, you go there and you’re as far away from that building as possible. You know, it’s not right. You know, it’s not your thing, but you still go on with it because it’s a job. But when it comes together and you get that feeling and you get that passion in your heart, it just becomes clear somehow. It comes clear and all the issues kind of go out the window. You just know that you got to do it.
Julie Gohring [17:06]
Yeah, exactly. It’s easier for I feel like for it to be clear, like when I was laying on that surfboard in Costa Rica and then you have to really hold on to what it is that you become aligned with. Because once you go back into that other life, almost, you know, it’s it’s hard to hold on to. And it’s so easy for you to, you know, share what you’re going to do. And when you have that knowingness, it’s very hard to explain to someone else, especially if they haven’t had that knowingness about something in their life. And what you find then when you have these conversations with people is they start sort of having directing a conversation at you as to maybe like, why you shouldn’t do something like Why shouldn’t leave and go to Costa Rica, when really there it’s more of a conversation that they’re having with themselves as to why they can’t do it. But they’re they sort of directed at you when you when you start to share. And if you’re not really super careful, it’s very easy to almost like take that energy in and let it affect you and let it almost take you off your knowingness and what you’re going to do. So that’s something you have to really protect yourself from when when you have those moments of real insight into yourself.
David Ralph [18:25]
Yeah, one of the things that comes up time and time again, is if you have big dreams and big passions, don’t share it with anyone until they can’t knock it back until you’ve done the foundation and there’s some kind of movement bam, and I can see what you’re doing because at the very beginning, it’s it’s it’s like little wisps of cloud in your hands, and somebody can just come along and blow it and it’s gone. So you almost have to treasure those sports those passions, and then start building a wall around it until you can actually nurture it. It’s almost like I suppose being really mystical, a kind of secret garden. That you start watering and it grows and grows and grows until you can’t stop it. Like as we were talking before the interview is like Wisteria, that wonderful plan that once it gets going, No one can stop it. He’s just gonna go on its own path.
Julie Gohring [19:14]
Yeah, but what’s cool about the Wisteria and what maybe some you don’t really see is that it took probably 10 years from when that was planted to when you actually see that with Syria going on and on with all the flowers to get there. So it is a lovely metaphor
David Ralph [19:32]
that isn’t it and and that’s something that we’ve been touching on a lot recently about nature, but it doesn’t rush. It gets everything done. The seasons blend in everything knows what it needs to do. And a lot of it is done out of sight. You don’t know what’s going on under the ground until the daffodils start poking their heads up and everything sort of comes together. And I was talking to a bloke the other day a chap on the show, and he said a brilliant place I’d never heard Before he and he said, a leopard doesn’t want to be a squirrel, a leopard just does what a leopard should do. And a squirrel just does what a squirrel to do. But as humans, more often than not, we’re going to play a role that we think other people want us to be. We don’t play our scribble card, if that’s what we should be, we try to be the leopard and vice vice versa. Now what you’ve done, which is amazing, and what we’re going to touch on even more, is you stopped playing the role. You stop playing the squiggle and you’ve become the leopard you become your unique, authentic self, haven’t you?
Julie Gohring [20:34]
Yeah, well, I I definitely have taken steps. And I think every day I’m moving more and more into that. But, you know, I think it’s always a process and it’s about, you know, just paying attention to what’s inside of you and then just taking action each and every day. And it’s amazing how the path unfolds for you. If you Just continue to move, you know, step by step down the road. And you just you don’t, you know, sometimes you don’t know exactly where you’re going. I mean, when I moved to Costa Rica was like, I didn’t know exactly how I was going to fully reinvent myself. I knew what my passions were, but I knew that I couldn’t just like, go out and get the same job here. And so, you know, it was really step by step taking action each day in that process that got me to, you know, having these two fitness businesses and doing what I really love to do. And this journey is still continuing and evolving. So,
David Ralph [21:37]
so So if we go back to San Francisco time again, you You said something that I was fascinated about, but it wasn’t right in the conversation at that time. But you said in your corporate gig, you had all the success you wanted. Now, when you look back on it, was that the success you actually wanted or were you just playing a row
Julie Gohring [21:58]
I think back then, I, I think I might have been suffering from what I call a mind trap. But I think I was thinking that if I achieved ABC and D, that I would, you know, have this happiness or whatever I thought, you know, a successful person had. And, you know, I did all of these things and got to that place that I had sort of made up in my head that Okay, now I’m happy or now I’m the most successful or I’ve achieved all these things. And it wasn’t what I expected it to be. And so so, yeah, I, I think I defined it differently than and that really woke me up to thinking about things differently and what I really wanted out of my life and like what I wanted to experience and explore and become, and, and, you know, that that’s, that was sort of the journey. So I think Think I got I woke up from from that sort of, I guess naive, young cultural trap that a lot of people get stuck in and they started to explore what else was out there for me.
David Ralph [23:13]
And that is the moment isn’t it? When you when you know that your success, the achievements of still left you feeling flat, you realise that once again, you are on the wrong path. And we see that time and time again where people are creating huge businesses. I like back in the early days, I did a show with a gentleman called Jason gay nerd Episode 12. So 308 shows ago, and he was saying that he built a company that was literally making millions and he was incredibly successful. And he hated every minute of it. So he actually sabotage his whole company. He knew that the only way that he was going to free himself to move on to what he wanted to do was actually break it all apart and let it sort of drift off on the wind. Now could be You kind of tangibly do that in your own career. Because when when you get to that point of success, and you’re doing really well, a lot of people that I speak to almost go, Well, I spent 10 years doing this. This is the path that I’m on now. And they because they don’t want to have egg on their face, they don’t want to be shown like they’re having a midlife crisis or whatever, but you will actually try to sort of break it up so they’ve they burn their bridges and moved on. Did you do that? Or did you just close it up nicely and move on to something else?
Julie Gohring [24:34]
Yeah, I I think that yeah, I mean, I, I had like a plan and moved out of my career. And, you know, just kind of like, left it and some people thought I was crazy and moved, but I think in like, personally, I was, you know, just yeah, I felt really just isolated and alone. And you know, just Not happy but feeling like just so confused about it because I, you know, I felt like in some ways I was so lucky I was so fortunate I had this great job I lived in this great city I had a nice apartment I got to travel like I had all these things that I was worked really hard to get but they weren’t making me feel the way I wanted to feel and I just knew it wasn’t aligned and and so that sitting with that all the time of like not feeling aligned with myself and good but then feeling like guilty about it and feeling like I should, was a very difficult position to be in it made me Yeah, not like made me quite depressed. And you know, and I guess kind of took me to a point where I’m like, Okay, I’ve got to make a change no matter what, like I have to go for this. So I don’t know if I completely sabotage myself, but I definitely was quite aware of that going on inside me.
David Ralph [25:59]
I think I’ve sabotage my life many times, actually. And it’s only now that I do this show. And I listen to people opening their hearts and talking quite openly, like you have. But I, I sit here reflecting on my own life. And I think there has been times that I look back on it now. And I did some bizarre stuff. And I kind of think that I wanted it to end, I couldn’t take the risk of moving away from something. So I almost wanted it to be taken away from me, so that I needed to move on. And more of those times it was when I was earning the most money, but I was the most unhappy as well. And the hours were long. And the job I didn’t like it was just a great, great salary. And I certainly did sabotage it because I don’t think I was strong enough to just walk away from what I’ve created.
Julie Gohring [26:47]
Right, right. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I think that’s what we human beings do. It because we find ourselves in these situations and we just don’t know how to get out of them. And, and and when we finally do and sometimes the easiest way is just to destructed ourselves.
David Ralph [27:08]
But let’s play some words now that really emphasise what we’re talking about this moment in your life. When you knew you had to go through it you you had this thing in your heart that was just tuning out to you. This is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [27:21]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [27:48]
Now powerful words but slightly different you achieved in what you didn’t love. Was that hard to do.
Julie Gohring [27:58]
Um, yeah. Jim Carrey is so amazing when I just listened to that I’m just like, wow, he’s so wise. And then. So I’m still thinking about that I’m thinking about also, you know, he was the guy that carried that little piece of paper in his wallet that said, I’m going to make a million dollars one day or 12 million or whatever. And he talks about that. He’s, he’s such a genius. And that’s such a great question. I think that I know, I don’t achieve, like by their standards, because I’m probably like, more naturally inclined to do well at a sales position. But I feel like I didn’t really achieve like it didn’t, I could have done so much more if my heart was in it more, and it was more aligned to what like my bigger purpose in life. And so, so. Yeah, no, I, I don’t know if I don’t know the answer to your question. If it was, it was harder. Not Because, you know, that’s what I think can can sometimes be really tricky about this kind of stuff is because that the job that I had doing sales was like really well suited for my personality and for my strengths, and I, and I really enjoyed a lot of what I did day in and day out. Like certain aspects of it even. And so I think sometimes that’s what gets tricky for people is like, certain aspects of what they do kind of work for them, but it’s not like fully aligned in the right path, but you get a little tricked by those things. And so yeah, I mean, I had such a good question. I don’t know the answer to but I, I am. I think that’s where it gets tricky. I just tried to show up and do the best that I could for that job with what I had available to give to it.
David Ralph [29:51]
Because I think the difference that we’re talking about here is at times like that, you tried to show up and do your best. Now. You Want to show up, and you want to do your best. And even when your best is good enough, you want to do more. And it’s almost like you’re sprinkled with Rocket Power because your passions have come together and you believe in what you’re working for. And because you’re working for yourself, and this additio Julian, I always emphasise this. This isn’t about being an entrepreneur, this show is about being happy. It is about being purely happy. And whether you’re in a rubbish relationship, or a terrible job or whatever. This is the steps for you to move on and be happy in your life. And when you are happy, and it does come together. So you’re actually creating an income and you’re living on the beach and you’re doing all that kind of stuff. You must sense that you want to show up you don’t try to show up you want to be there because it’s all you want.
Julie Gohring [30:48]
Oh, absolutely. I don’t actually feel like I work. I you know, even though I am doing tonnes of things that people would describe his work. I mean, I really love the client. That I get to work with it. It’s just It’s an honour to be part of this journey that they have where they transform their lives and they start to harness their own power, you know, getting an opportunity to share my story and what I’ve done with the world through blog posts or through you know, talking to people on online. I mean, that’s just, it’s all such an expression of who I am like, I’m so lucky like, yeah, it just all feels great. And I can just like my natural like, passionate, energetic personality can just flow in it with nothing blocking it. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s really awesome. It doesn’t feel at all like, what my other job in my old life felt like, very different. It’s hard to conceptualise, though if you’re on the other side. I would have never been able to understand what I now know on this side. Which is, is is so fascinating, and that’s why it’s like, I try to really Help people that are that are on the edge and ready to take that leap to do it because they’re going to be fine on the other side and they’re, they’re not gonna, they’re not gonna believe how different they can experience themselves in the world.
David Ralph [32:16]
Well, this is the key question I want to ask now. You You decided that the San Francisco life wasn’t for you the corporate gig, you come across to Costa Rica. And yeah, everybody would be like to be in Costa Rica. Well, I hate beaches. Actually. I’ll be honest, Julie, I can’t stand beaches to to say for me, give me a nice, give me a nice pole, any dirt away but a beach. But you get there. That’s great. But how do you start to build an income based around that and that is the sort of sticking point that people will have that that the sort of mindset shift that they’ve got to overcome. They can get themselves to Costa Rica nicely. They think what you’re doing is wonderful, but how to build an income. So how did you manage it?
Julie Gohring [33:00]
Well, first of all, you definitely need to have a plan for when you get over here. Because, you know, things don’t work the exact same way as they do like in the US or even in England, it’s not going to be, it’s not going to be the same. So you have to have a plan and like a little bit of fun for yourself, so you can figure it out. But, you know, you start just like you would with anything is you start on the ground and, and, you know, my boyfriend, Nick and I, we just came up with this idea to start these beach boot camps on the beach. And we, I mean, it’s a small community and you know, you just start to, you know, spread the word and then, you know, you build it over time. So that I mean, that’s what, that’s how it all began. It’s just very simple, with an idea and then taking action on it every day and showing up and doing the work and then it just builds upon itself and I mean that’s really where it started and if you make you know if if you’re just smart about it and and thoughtful about it like there’s ways to utilise technology to build your business as well like just as an example so for our in person business here, we train a lot of locals and like expats that live here but we also train a tonne of tourists that come into town. There’s tonnes of people want to keep up their fitness regimen went while they’re on vacation and this whole just like sitting around by the pool drinking is like people want to get you know like lose a few pounds
David Ralph [34:42]
cuz I’m supposed to go on holiday you just lie there drinking and beat do do nothing like big fat slugs for two weeks.
Julie Gohring [34:52]
The trend is is unbelievable. And so you’ve heard of Have you heard of TripAdvisor use that at all actively. So you know We created a profile on TripAdvisor for our business and and you know, our clients then would review us after they worked with us. And so anyway, this this is at one point for a number of years we were number one on TripAdvisor when you look at things to do in tamarindo. So by utilising that people from all over the world that come to Costa Rica, and there’s a this country does, I mean, that’s how they make their money in this country is tourism is a huge part of their GDP. So like all these people found us that way and you know, would book training sessions with us. So you know, that there’s a lot of ways to utilise like, all the resources out there to build your business. And that was that was one really, like cute, simple thing that turned out to bring in a huge generate, like 80% of our income for a number of years is just through TripAdvisor. So you know Did you have a natural
David Ralph [36:01]
tipping point when because I’m fascinated with the tipping point sort of theory at the moment, where if you work towards something and you’re focused and you’re consistent, and you do one thing after another, after another after another, there’s got to get to a point where something occurs. And I’ve seen that in my show. I’ve seen that with other people that have been coaching that most people stop before they get to that tipping point. But you get to that and then that’s when all the power and the money and the income and the fun comes to you. You’ve done the work. You’ve been putting the pebbles in overtime all the time all the time and suddenly it tips and away you go.
Julie Gohring [36:42]
When you say that, it comes to mind this like one, like infographic I’ve seen on Facebook and it’s like this, this, it’s like this arrow and and it like curves and and basically it basically it’s just like this arrow that shows like people think like this road success looks like this but basically on the way to like success is like failure, failure, failure failure and, and then you’re successful. And I kind of think of that as like, you know, you’re doing all this stuff and you’re building momentum and you’re getting closer to this, you know, success, but it doesn’t feel like it. And you kind of feel like you’re failing and it’s not like really going anywhere and then just you stay, you know, and that’s when people like, Okay, this isn’t working and they give up. And it’s like, you have to keep just going and going and going and it is all that momentum and then you get to get to this point where you know, it almost, you know, works on its own for you because of that. So, yeah, I agree completely.
David Ralph [37:48]
Well, I totally agree. And I also totally agree with the words I’m going to play now because this is really the key to everything confident and it ties in with this tipping point very as well. This is what Oprah said
Unknown Speaker [37:59]
the way through the challenge is to get still and ask yourself, what is the next right move? not think about, Oh, I got all of this stuff. What is the next right move? And then from that space, make the next right move, and the next right move, and not to be overwhelmed by it. Because, you know, your life is bigger than that one moment, you know, you’re not defined by what somebody says, is a failure for you. Because failure is just there to point you in a different direction.
David Ralph [38:31]
Same thing, isn’t it? If you take the Jim Carrey speech about just going for it? I mean, you take the Oprah of do one thing and do another and do another and if you get a perceived failure, then look to see what occurred and and how you can do it better. Then success has got to be coming, doesn’t it?
Julie Gohring [38:51]
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, Oprah says it really well. And yeah, it all reminds me of just Joseph Campbell, I don’t know if you’ve read any of his books or follow him. But, you know, he, he, he, you know, he says, follow your bliss and the universe will open doors for you where there were only walls and you know, just, you know, like pay attention to what makes you happy, what makes you come alive and just take a step towards that each day. And you know, you don’t have to worry about the very end what it all looks like. Sometimes it’s too big to comprehend, but just that one small step will keep taking you forward. And before you know it, you’re on your own journey. And you’re, you know, you’re on your way. But yeah, they all say it so well.
David Ralph [39:43]
Well, yeah, I’ll tell you a little story listeners. This show isn’t about me, but hey, it’s my show. So I’m going to talk about myself. When I started the show. It was just to get the show going. There was no big plan, really. I had a sort of real overriding dream, but it was too big for me to play. On. So I saw a parcel the in a box, put it in the drawer and just worked on the show. And I broke it down into stages. I thought why once I get to a certain point that be stage one, and then a second being stage two, stage three, stage four. And once you get to that point where people are starting believing in you and noticing your efforts, you start to get opportunities come your way, where you kind of go, Ah, that is brilliant. That’s that’s what I want to do. But actually, I’m halfway through doing stage two at the moment. Now I’m gonna have to leave that but you get so many opportunities come your way. But you didn’t at the beginning. But that’s the easy point. That’s the easy point. The easy point is working hard in your own silo, until people notice the difficult bit is when they do notice you and been deciding on what path you want to do to remain focused whatever. Have you had that as well Julie, it was all you slog slog slog slog slog and then suddenly it starts to branch out and you can go off in any direction you want.
Julie Gohring [41:02]
Yeah, I think I think so I, what I noticed is Yeah, as we move forward and forward, forward, more and more opportunities are coming available to us and yeah, it’s actually an amazing opportunity because it allows you to sort of reflect and even become more aligned with and more focused on on like, exactly where you’re going and who you’re here to help and, and what, what what you want to do. So, absolutely, and it’s a great practice in in, in just staying true to yourself and staying the course
David Ralph [41:42]
and you know, still are you basically now the same lady that was floating around on that surfboard when the idea first come to you are your core values as closely aligned to that day, as ever?
Julie Gohring [41:58]
I think so. But I think I much clear, with with and I know myself even better, I think, you know, I, at that time I had these moments of absolute, like clarity but I would get really confused going back into my life and in the world with all the, the mental stuff that I told you I was experiencing So, so now I feel like I just live more in that clarity and, and, and that sort of understanding of of how I want my life to be and how I sort of manifest that in the world. So, so I think the core values are there, but they’re just more expressed and I’m just more aligned with them, which is a really amazing, powerful place that we all should be able to experience.
David Ralph [42:48]
He said the key thing that our listeners should focus in instead of so guy, I’ve got this idea and I want to earn a billion pound a month and when they get to that point, and they have hate it because it’s so it’s so not vam somehow, like created a business, as we were talking about would be Jason who had to self sabotage it is is it better for them to actually think about their life values, how things make them feel when they are at their happiest and work towards those kind of things? I
Julie Gohring [43:19]
mean, you know, I, I don’t know if it’s the same for men, but I imagine it has to be but as a woman, I think that we’re just naturally quite intuitive. And, and, yeah, I think pay attention to what makes you come alive and what makes you feel happy. And at you know, and I think people know what these things are, but then that mean, the trap that I would get into is I would, okay, I really want to have this experience and do this kind of thing. But then we’re taught to think in this certain framework of how things work, and we’re like, I don’t know how that’s going to fit in that framework. Like how am I gonna? How am I gonna make money every day? How am I gonna do how am I going to do that and and then They think that idea that they have is not valuable or it’s impossible, when in fact, I don’t think you can actually take something like that, that comes from your being and then push it into this, like, logical framework, I think you just need to take an action towards like, do more of that, that makes you happy that you’re noticing taken action towards it each day. And as you do that, things start to open up for you and, and that really is the path and then every day you’re spending more and more time feeling happy and you know, and creating this life around your happiness. Instead of, you know, yeah, thinking you want a billion dollars and thinking your way into happiness. I don’t I just don’t think it works that way.
David Ralph [44:49]
You’ve almost got to start with the happiness, don’t you and then build that into your life and Ben things will naturally occur. I think that’s the mistake that you see with with These multimillionaires that you think have got everything and then killed themselves and you’ve hit Why? Why have they done that? You know, they’ve got everything. They’ve got the big life, the yachts and all that kind of stuff. Because ultimately, they lost track of what was making them happy they became so far removed from their, their natural state of mind and that you’re being that they couldn’t see a way to get back to that and they’ve lost themselves somehow.
Julie Gohring [45:27]
Yeah, I mean, I definitely haven’t made a million dollars. So I don’t know. But if you had that, I think that they had to sacrifice so much to get there. And I think there’s got to be a way that you can also create that abundance in your life. But you know, following following the happy road for yourself, I think you can get there too if you don’t give up on it.
David Ralph [45:49]
Have you created your own path now? Is it totally unique, authentic to yourself? Or are you following a path that other people have done before You because we see that time and time again that some people will go down because what you’re what you’re doing the sort of boot camps on the beach, that’s not a new idea. And I’ve seen that sort of everywhere. But have you made that unique and authentic to yourself? Or are you following a format that you knew was going to work? Because you’ve seen other people do it?
Julie Gohring [46:21]
Yeah, no, I think that Yeah, we’re sort of making it up. I mean, I think it’s a blend. It’s a hybrid of both. With the in person boot camps, I mean, we don’t follow necessarily like a particular particular training philosophy. You know, we’re just like, big believers, that movement and exercise needs to be fun, and you need to figure out like how to move in a way that makes you happy. Like that’s, that’s the basic so I think that we, you know, really, you know, are doing it our authentic way and in the way that feels aligned to us. And you know, you People have, you know, they so many people dread exercise and think it’s this awful thing that they have to do. And, you know, and and really, movement can movement can be I mean, if you actually find something that you enjoy doing, it can be a sport, it can be dancing with your kid or whatever it is, like, do it because I mean, as human beings we are like, we’re built for movement. We’re not built to sit in a cubicle with fluorescent lighting in a chair. I mean, the studies are coming out that this is going to be a huge killer of us, you know, this is not healthy. This is not natural environment for us to thrive in. So move and, and, you know, I talked to I know for myself and I talked to so many other clients, like when you’re moving in whatever way like that’s when you get your best ideas. That’s when that’s when you kind of, you know, come alive in a sense and you know, you feel more calm You feel more powerful, there’s something in that. And so we want people just to do that more often like that, in and of itself can be so transformative. And so, you know, we really just, you know, emphasise, like, make movement fun, do something that excites the hell out of you, you know, don’t worry about what you think exercises, oh, I gotta go on the treadmill for 30 minutes, oh, I have to lift that weight. No, just go find the thing that works for you. So I think we really tried to integrate that into what we do. And so I think like, from that standpoint, it’s authentically us. But you know what, someone else probably had this idea to somewhere in history. So I don’t know, maybe we’re all just recycling all the same ideas, but with our own slight spin on them.
Unknown Speaker [48:45]
Yeah, I think
David Ralph [48:46]
we owe and I think that’s the genius thing. There is so much abundance out there that people and the listeners, you don’t have to create the brand new thing. I was watching a film last night, the social network how Facebook’s done. And I found that fascinating. I’ve been wanting to watch that film for ages. And I just got down to it last night. And the fact that he was basically replicating what was already out there, but he just did it in a different way. I think that is that is where the true genius is, and people can see you. And they could go a lot what Judy’s doing, I’ve got a beach down the road, or I’ve got a park down the road, why can’t I replicate that? And it wouldn’t touch your business at all. Wouldn’t it be a great positive, but they’re inspired by what you’re doing and creating their own income. And you can look around wherever you go, and you can see success. And you just need to mimic that. I did the same thing myself on this show. I saw what other people were doing and basically kind of followed, not the format the formats my own, but the fact that it’s a seven day a week show and it’s on iTunes and it’s on here and all there. That wasn’t me making it up. That was just me seeing what other people were doing event following it. It’s out there, isn’t it? all the clues are out there, Julie
Julie Gohring [50:00]
Absolutely. And you know, I think, like you said, just being who you are and showing up in the way that’s natural to you, you will align with the people that are right for you. And that that’s what makes it truly unique. And and since we are all unique individuals, like putting your own spin on it and doing it your way, is, you know, is how you do it different. So yeah, yeah, absolutely.
David Ralph [50:24]
Well, let’s play the theme of the show. Now we’re getting near the end. And these are the words that Steve Jobs said back in 2005 10 years ago, and I’m pretty sure they’re going to be quite relevant to you. This is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [50:37]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny life Whatever, because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path, and that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [51:13]
So it seems to me but this is going to be a stupid question but I’m gonna ask it anyway relevant to you
Julie Gohring [51:19]
know, my gosh, I mean, I hadn’t heard this until I heard your show. I had not heard Steve Jobs say this and yeah, it’s it’s quite powerful. And you know, yeah, you can’t see the dots in the future. But the more and more you look back on your past, the more I look back on mine, I’m like, Wow, there are more and more dot dot showing up that I didn’t see and see it and how they all connect is in ways you would never expect like how things translate from one period of your life to the next but they’re, they’re still connecting is is fascinating and so unexpected. And what’s your big
David Ralph [51:59]
dot? When you look back, what was the one where you go? Yeah, that that was probably it.
Unknown Speaker [52:07]
I think that
Julie Gohring [52:10]
you know, taking the leap and leaving sort of my Cush and plush life in San Francisco and in the pharmaceutical world and moving down to Costa Rica solo, I think that was huge because that really signified me like you know, I I had really like listened to and reflected on you know what I wanted and like paid attention to the signs and the things going on in my life and it was directing me in a very clear way to come here and I did it I believed in it. I stopped listening to other people I just followed my heart and the signs and, and all of this, then just transform For me here, so I think I think that was probably the biggest.so far in my life. I’m sure there will be others.
David Ralph [53:08]
I’m sure there will be others as well because that’s the way your your life is leading. You’re you’re taking action. You’re challenging yourself. You’re looking for opportunities. And bottom line, you’re loving it. And that leads to many, many more dots, doesn’t it?
Julie Gohring [53:24]
I sure hope so. Yeah, lots of other big things I want to do with my life. So um, yeah, I can’t wait to see the next big job. But yes, the Costa Rica one has is by far I think the biggest. Like, the biggest opportunity I gave myself to actualize myself, or at least from this perspective here today. So
David Ralph [53:50]
let’s send you back in time. Now, this is the end of the show. And this is the part that we call the Sermon on the mic when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back Time to speak to the younger Dude, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m gonna play the theme tune when it fades you up. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [54:19]
Speed of the show.
Julie Gohring [54:33]
So I would talk to the 25 year old version of myself. That was a few years into her corporate career. And I would just tell her, you know, to really believe in yourself, to pay attention to any idea any inkling, any intuition, or have experiences that make you come alive. Because these things are giving you information about yourself about how to be happy about where your path is. And even though you may not know what to do with them or how to translate them into your life, that doesn’t mean that they’re not valuable and that you know, they can’t manifest themselves. So just stay focused on them. Take one small action in any way that you can. You don’t have to change up your whole life, but just take one small action towards those things each and every day. And doors will open where you never knew they existed before. And opportunities will come to you and before you know it, you’re just on this journey, that that is coming authentically from you. And in more and more time with more and more momentum your whole life will then be directed in that way and you will be blade Being a trailblazer of your own path. And I think that is a way to really create like a life of your dreams.
David Ralph [56:11]
How can our audience connect with you Julie?
Julie Gohring [56:14]
so you can connect with me at my website, which is www saltwater fit calm, where we have lots of great content on beach life, nutrition, fitness mindset. That’s a great place to connect with us, with me and also on Facebook as well. And I’m sure you’ll have the links in the show notes for everyone.
David Ralph [56:39]
Absolutely. We will have over links on the show notes. And Julie, thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots and please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up those dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Julie Gohring. Thank you so much.
Julie Gohring [56:57]
Thank you, David. I had a great time talking with you.
David Ralph [57:03]
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