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Introducing Kellie Hill
But that hasn’t always been the case, as she is a survivor of both heart attacks and a stroke.
And honestly, I was shocked when I discovered that fact, as I don’t know what I expect heart attack survivors to look like, but its not our guest.
But from that point, her life appears to have sped up with multiple appearances on television and becoming the international radio talk show host of Eat Well To Live Well With Kellie Hill.
You see, once she had her health issues, Kellie has become the muse of neurologists and haematologists across the world, who concluded that her health diets saved her life more than once.
How The Dots Joined Up For Kellie
And this is one of those fascinating dots on the join up dots timeline, as was she already on the path to now, or did she need these life shockers to really show her the way?
Well we find out all about her healthy diet philosophy during the show, because is that there is no one-size fits all diet, but there are changes everyone can make in order to improve their health,
Because of each one of is different, most diets will work for some people and not for others, so its important to understand your own body and its need in order to attain optimal health
So how did she find out the fuel that makes her go off like a rocket, and learn the foods that are the best for her?
And does she look back at the strokes, and heart attacks as a good thing now, or just something that she hopes she never has to go through again?
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs with the one and only Kellie Hill.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Kellie Hill as:
How she recalls the Doctor seemed not to believe that she was having a heart attack, so she ran around the ER to cause another one.
The frightening stastic in America, where they are now losing 1 in 3 women to heart attacks, due to many contributing factors at least diet and
How unhappiness and depression is a huge problem in life, and is a big factor in the increase of heart attacks in the world.
How she was so annoyed by the manner that life was throwing things at her, and realised that she was never going to waste a moment again.
We pondered the deep questions in life, such as what happened to Hamburglar from the McDonalds franchise. Where did he go to?
How To Connect With Kellie Hill
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Full Transcription Of Kellie Hill Interview
David Ralph [0:00]
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When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:38]
Yes, hello, everybody. This is David Ralph. And this is Join Up Dots. And this is Episode 382 of the show. We’ve been changing recently and I’ve been getting a lot of feedback about the bonus episodes that we’ve been throwing out there little eight to 10 minute little versions of the show. So thank you so much for everybody that said that’s a good thing. And believe me, we’re going to be doing more oppose throwing them out randomly so you don’t know when you’re going to get them. But of course today is one of our sort of normal kinds of shows. And today’s guest is a lovely lady I’ve been speaking to already who is radiating health and wellness, and simply looks like the world is great around her. But it hasn’t always been the case. She is a survivor of both heart attacks and the stroke. And honestly, I was shocked when I discovered that fact, as I don’t know what I expect heart attack survivors to look like. But it’s not our guest. But from that point, her life appears to have sped up with multiple appearances on television and becoming the international radio talk show host of eat well to live well with Kelly Hill. You say once she had her health issues, she became the muse of numerologist and haematologists across the world, who concluded a healthy diet saved her life more than once. And this is one of those fascinating dots on the Join Up Dots timeline and she was already on the path to now and then she kind of sped up because of these live Shockers these live Shockers really started to show her but So it seems to me, well, we’ll find out all about her healthy diet philosophy during the show because it is that no one size fits all diet. Basically, whatever you should be eating should be right for yourself. But there are changes everyone can make in order to improve their health. Because each one of us is different. Most artists will work for some people, not for others. So it’s important to understand your own body and its need in order to obtain optimal health. So how did she find out a fuel that makes it go off like a rocket and learn the foods that are best for her? And does she look back at the strokes and heart attacks as a good thing now or just something that she hopes she never has to go through again? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Kellie Hill. How are you Kellie?
Kellie Hill [2:46]
I am Wonderful, thank you.
David Ralph [2:48]
It’s lovely to have you on the show and I’m gonna cut straight to the chase Kellie. You do it. You look very, very healthy. You really do how how healthy Are you In a rating of one to 10
Kellie Hill [3:03]
Oh, probably about an eight or nine most days.
David Ralph [3:06]
So is this something that is naturally in you or you’re naturally healthy person? Or is somebody that if you you slop out for a couple of days, you could go down to a six or five?
Kellie Hill [3:17]
No, I, I’ve always been very, very healthy. And that was part of the reason that having a heart attack was so shocking. And they actually tried to send me home from the hospital because they kept saying there’s no way there’s something wrong with her. I was only 42 years old. I had no genetic factors. I exercised every day. I wasn’t overweight. I didn’t take birth control. I didn’t have blood pressure issues. I didn’t have diabetes, I didn’t have anything. And so they, you know, they tried to send me home because they’re like that. There’s nothing that could be wrong with this young person. And, you know, sure enough, obviously, I had a massive Heart Attack 100% blockage of my la de what they call the Widowmaker. You have about 10 minutes to live at that point. So I’ve always been healthy yet. There I was in the middle of the hospital having a heart attack.
David Ralph [4:14]
And so so what did I say it was stress or something did i did i think it wasn’t a proper heart attack.
Kellie Hill [4:19]
Actually, they, it’s so sad. And unfortunately, many women can can relate to this. They told me it was anxiety, or a panic attack or heartburn, or my favourite indigestion. And it was so cute because I could hear my husband telling the doctor, don’t go tell her that you don’t understand what she does for a living. If you don’t know don’t do that. And it was so cute because I thought, oh boy here this doctor doesn’t know who he’s dealing with when he’s gonna come down. Leave that. You know that I do that for a living. help people get away from indigestion. So no, I’m not having indigestion. So Yeah, they really they just basically told me it was in my head and, and you know nothing and to go home. So it It was shocking to them when Unfortunately, the big one hit right there luckily in the middle of the emergency room so if you’re going to have a heart attack, you can’t pick a better place.
David Ralph [5:18]
You can’t, can you because yeah, if anyone’s listened to this show, they would have heard my stories. I thought I’d had a heart attack, but it did turn out to be stress and I get the symptoms. Now if I get really really stressed, bang, I get this pain in my chest. Now, I’m more clued up about it. But I do remember when it happened to me at work, I really did think I was having a heart attack and I came home and I was convinced I was I was going off to meet my maker. So were you kind of matter of fact or were you know hang on guys. I know stuff and this is definitely a harder time where you literally saying I know what’s occurring.
Kellie Hill [5:54]
I was I’m a little bit of a pain in the tush when when I know something And I, I told the gentleman and I swear he seems so young. I’m sure he was probably, you know about my age, but he seemed like this very young doctor and I told him I said, I don’t care how many years of experience you’ve you have or how many years you’ve gone to school. I’m telling you, you’re wrong. Hospital,
David Ralph [6:20]
you’ll get into that age now. But I bet teachers look young to you. I yes, doctors. I go into my kids school, and I’m not sure who are the students and who are the teachers. So that’s true. He was fully trained though.
Kellie Hill [6:34]
Oh, of course. Yes. Yo. And once he got his jaw off the floor, you had said, he said, Well, no, we have to send you home and I said, No, I refuse to leave the hospital until you figure out what’s wrong with me. And so I actually made the conscious decision because I realised it was happening more frequently when I was moving. I’d been running around the house You know, doing laundry going up and down the stairs, when had occurred each time when my when the pain in my chest happened, I thought well, I’m going to do that in the middle of the ER and so I I walked as fast as I could around the ER, you know, little robe flapping around behind me in the back, but, you know, as fast as I could until I could feel it beginning to happen again. And I grabbed him. I said, hook me up right now you’re going to see what I feel. And that was about the last thing I remember a brief moment when I threw up all over that particular doctor and had great satisfaction.
David Ralph [7:38]
Is that what happens Ben did you do vomit in tobacconist I just bought it was like a fizziness down your arm or something?
Kellie Hill [7:46]
No, actually, for women. It’s the symptoms are very different. And it’s part of what I now go out and advocate for because in the United States, we’re losing one in three women to a heart attack or stroke. broke. So it’s a huge epidemic and
David Ralph [8:04]
Kellie Hill [8:05]
one in three, yeah, one in three women. It is and unfortunately, as most people know, you know, we we as Americans are great about exporting some of our worst possible medical issues to foreign countries. So, you know, my guess is it won’t be long until that those numbers begin the whole world. And so with its we’re losing more women in the United States than all forms of cancer combined, it’s the number one death for women is is heart disease,
David Ralph [8:38]
and it is it because I come from the United Kingdom, and we like to go out for a beer and we like to have a dinner. But I’ve spent a lot of time in America and literally, I would order the children’s portions because that the main portions were just beyond anything. But the American sitting around us I be happily steaming into it is it sort of dietary plans problem that’s causing one in three women to have heart attacks or was it just sort of busy lifestyles?
Kellie Hill [9:05]
It’s a combination of a lot of things. And I’m not sure if doctors have pinpointed any one specific thing, but we certainly we do overeat, we choose some very poor foods we have, we’re not way too sedentary and we are not controlling our stress. So there, there are a lot of things contributing to it. But the bottom line is one in three women. And a lot of it is because women don’t recognise those symptoms. We don’t necessarily have the symptom like you’re talking about where the, the, you know, giant elephant or quarterback or whatever is is on your chest and the left arm goes numb. We have very different symptoms and I have felt like since this has happened, part of my journey is to be an advocate and get out and talk to women and let them know what those symptoms are and the men that them because, you know a lot of times it would be easy for a man to say oh well The doctor said it’s heartburn it’s probably heartburn and you know, take their their spouse or loved one away and you know, a 10 minutes is all I would have had so there’s no way I could have gotten back to the hospital in time to save my life if I had chosen to leave or my husband had said you know, it’s in your head listen to this gentleman. Let’s go you know, luckily he’s he’s a much more intelligent man than that and listen to me
David Ralph [10:34]
because I’m really surprised as I said the one in three because I always felt bad because women cry and show their emotions This is what’s always been said to me. And men don’t I thought that main other heart attack people and women and so is it worse for men I like wanting to or is there a different statistic altogether?
Kellie Hill [10:54]
Yo, I don’t know the men’s statistic right now I’m it’s not the number one killer. So It’s I think number two or three if I remember right in the US so it’s it’s still high. But I don’t I don’t know for sure if it’s as high as women.
David Ralph [11:11]
So if we take you back in time as as we like to do on Join Up Dots, Now, obviously us spokes lady and you’re going round and you’ve got a campaign you’ve got a mission and it’s been sort of half forced on you and half was already there. You know, you’re a healthy person by the very beginning. could could you have seen but you were going to be doing this well, what was your plan when you was at high school or whatever? What was you planning to do?
Kellie Hill [11:37]
Well, now this is good to throw you in it. It’s not something that it’s not that I hide it, but it’s not something most people know at this point about me. But I actually my first degree and my my goal was to be a public speaker. And that at the time that wasn’t really paying my bills. So I ended up buying a seven 11 convenience store and expanding that becoming a franchisee, and then met the man who’s now my husband. And he was in the process of buying three McDonald’s restaurants and, or before he was buying four. And so I actually ended up selling my business and going to work for him for 10 years. I was a McDonald’s owner operator franchisee. And it was actually one of the most enlightening pieces of my life. Because I realised that although I was a health advocate, always have been, for the most part have always been very, very well that we’re missing a huge piece between the people that are are doing everything right where they’re making all their foods at home, they’re feeding their children really well. They’re not buying the processed foods, they’re making really good choices and the people at the far other end of the spectrum That are eating fast food all the time, lots of processed foods, everything’s coming in a can or a box or pre made. And I realised there, there has to be some middle ground. And these, the middle ground isn’t talking. nobody’s paying attention to that. And it I felt like it was definitely time for me to step out in McDonald’s world and take my nutrition education and use it for good. And so I was already on this path when I had the heart attack, and and then the heart bypass surgery and the stroke. But the best part of it was I felt like I have a great platform because I understand why people go eat fast food. Yeah, I have kids. I know it. You know, it’s convenient. There’s a reason that that convenience is taking over the entire world at this point.
Unknown Speaker [13:53]
David Ralph [13:54]
probably one of the deepest questions you’re gonna get, but coming from a McDonald’s background Whatever happened to hamburger do remember there was one of McDonald and I
Kellie Hill [14:04]
do remember hamburglar what happened to me you know he did disappear right so did Mayor mccheese
David Ralph [14:11]
oh I don’t know that one
Kellie Hill [14:13]
yeah yeah I’m not I honestly don’t know where he was there yeah right and then he just disappeared here There were some others so that there was also birdie who did something with fries I don’t remember her particularly and grimace and I
David Ralph [14:28]
we didn’t have them over here. We didn’t have the others.
Kellie Hill [14:32]
Oh, yeah, no, there were quite a few characters and I guess maybe you know, they just decided to streamline and go with with Ronald I honestly don’t know. You’re right. They did disappear.
David Ralph [14:43]
Yeah, they did. But yeah. So so with your speaking if we went back to your speaking and you wanted to be a spokesperson, but I find more often than not the people that have come on the show. seem to want to be a spokesman but they don’t really have something to say They need to have a story they need to have a life experience that sets them apart. Is that kind of what happened with you? Did you have the urge to be a speaker but nothing to back it up with?
Kellie Hill [15:12]
Well, no, actually, those were my first jobs, I worked for nonprofits and would go out and speak on their behalf. So I wasn’t speaking for myself. And but, you know, unfortunately, those type of jobs just really don’t pay bills very well, especially in the nonprofit world, which is what I was drawn to. So it, it certainly has been more helpful to actually have a story to talk about, I’ll be it not the story that I would, given the opportunity to choose to, you know, have in my life. But there’s some reason that, you know, one in three women are dying, and I’ve lived through three. So I’ve beaten the odds again and again again, and there must be some reason for that. And I assume that that reason is to make sure that I’m the one or one of the people out there talking about it and making people aware of what’s happening and what they can do to prevent problems for themselves and and just get that awareness out there.
David Ralph [16:14]
And when this sitting there and they’re listening to you, do they kind of go, oh my god, I think I’m a prime candidate for this or are people aware of it because more often than not, I find that the ones I know that had heart attacks, you wouldn’t have thought in a million years, there are people playing tennis all the time and running and being fit. And the ones that all drinking beer and just overweight, they seem to live forever. So um, I’ll have people stop sitting there going, I must do something about my way or never happened to me.
Kellie Hill [16:45]
I was really fortunate in February is the American National Heart Month and so I was really fortunate to get an opportunity to be presenting in Portland, Oregon, and I gave a couple friends tations back to back, and then got to do a meet and greet the next day. And most of the time, you never talked to anybody who talks to you after a presentation, the other 510 people or something may come up and ask questions, but you don’t really get to hear from the people particularly be paid to come in, give a presentation and go away. And this was the first time that I’d done back to back presentations in the same building. And then had people had the opportunity to come meet and greet with me the next day. And it was the first time I realised how impactful it was. I had people come up and say, I apologise I left your presentation, because you started talking about the symptoms. And I panicked and I left to call my doctor, and I have a stress test scheduled two days later in, I got the opportunity to hear from people who had taken action after listening to me talk, and it I stood there in the middle of a business, unfortunately. And I was just crying and I was crying with them because it’s rare to have that opportunity to know I most the time you give a presentation you go away, you have no idea if you’ve impacted it, but you can only hope. And this was the first time I’d ever gotten the opportunity to talk to people afterwards yo A day later, and listen to young people who felt like it didn’t really involve them. But it was such a crisis that they personally took it upon themselves to call friends and get together and do social media hits that night and try and push it out there how you know what the symptoms were and, and how, you know, women need to be paying attention and be their own advocate. And people that that went back to their offices and decided to make support groups and you signed up for weightwatchers or you different, different things, risk factors that they could take control of, because we do have to play the hand were dealt. And like you say, a lot of times it’s very healthy people. And it’s surprising and sometimes it’s not. You know, it’s unhealthy people in yo yo, no big surprise, you had a heart attack. But the reality is we all have some sort of cards, and we’re just we just play the hand the best we can. And so if there are some risk factors that people can make a choice about whether it’s losing weight, or getting their blood sugar under control, or their blood pressure under control, or their stress under control, or whatever, they have the ability to fix, and they make those choices and they do it. It’s been the most rewarding thing I’ve ever done in my whole life. I just, I certainly don’t get paid near as well than I ever had before. But I look at myself in the mirror and I’m so much happier with what I do. I I feel so grateful for the opportunity to make that difference. And and if we can turn back those numbers, I think we have it’s so important. It’s just I can’t think of any greater good that I could possibly do in the world, then then see that people make a choice. I’m sure there are other people that listen to me and walk away and say, oh, it doesn’t, it doesn’t pertain to me. So who cares? But I can only hope that they remember something in a moment, either when they see a symptom, or they see a symptom with somebody else and say, hey, maybe you should go get that looked at rather than ignoring
David Ralph [20:38]
it because we have this thing over here with the strokes and I’m just I’m trying to is that an acronym and it’s fast. And I think yes, face, arm speech, telephone or something he stands for. And these are the things you’ve got to look out for. And if you do those and you get on the phone really quickly, you can sort of save it, but what what interests me is your style. Now you You’ve got a very friendly face, you’ve got a very engaging personality. Does that work? Well speaking to people who are at risk, or is it better sort of turn up like the Grim Reaper with a scythe and just pointed people out, you actually get in there and really ran your message home?
Kellie Hill [21:21]
I go back and forth between the two. And so I when I talk about my story, and and the things that I did, right, and the things I did wrong, I’m honest about it. And I say, yeah, here’s some stupid things that I chose to do, like not calling for 911. Right away. You’re thinking I could take care of it. Yeah. So I made some mistakes. And I’m hoping that people can learn from those mistakes. And so I tried to be very personable in that aspect and say, you know, I didn’t do it. All right. None of us ever will. So, you know, please learn from me, save yourself. But I do do a little bit of the grim grim Especially, I try to always find a group that comes in together. And a lot of times I’ll pinpoint somebody in the first row or two, and say, you know, look at the three of you, I saw you come in together, statistically one of the three of you will be dead.
David Ralph [22:17]
Oh, that’s nice in it.
Unknown Speaker [22:19]
Yeah. And then and, you know,
David Ralph [22:22]
that was where I’d go to the other side of the room, save myself.
Kellie Hill [22:26]
Well, or I’ll say, you know, depending on the group, a lot of times I speak only to women and so I’ll count that the number of women and then figure out the math and say, you know, up this group, what is one third one third of this group will be dead statistically. And those are those are very powerful numbers or, you know, look around at the women around you look at two women. You know, one of the three of you are going to be dead. Are you gonna do anything about are you just gonna hope?
David Ralph [22:53]
So Oh, I said this in the introduction, but I am fascinated because you kind of alluded that you wish you hadn’t have had these things. Fingers crossed. Yeah, you’re all fine and you’re healthy and you’re going to move on to very old age. And it’s giving me a thumbs up. Yeah, absolutely. And it’s giving you a focal point hasn’t a? Is it a good thing? Is it a good thing to be able to stand up knowing that you’ve been through it? So if somebody says, Yeah, what do you know? Well, actually about two hours attacks on a stroke. That’s what I know. Is it a good thing?
Kellie Hill [23:25]
I think I have been able to use it for good. If I had the option to not go through any of it. I would take that option. Why don’t you take it Kelly? I’m it, especially some of the pieces because I also went through heart bypass surgery. And so that is one of the most terrifying surgeries out there. It’s very scary. It’s, it’s scary for the family. It’s scary for a person experiencing it. I do a lot of advocacy for people that Go through that surgery in my hometown and we’ll go and visit with them before and after because it’s it’s it’s a life or death situation that most people luckily don’t ever have to actually face and to a face to it you know in a heart attack situation a heart bypass surgery and then a stroke. Yeah, I really I it aged me way too much and fortunately, I would not, not voluntarily choose to go back and do that again. But
David Ralph [24:33]
younger than you are when you said you do that or the age when you have your heart attack he kind of he that much because he unless it’s very good makeup you’ve got on because either either remarkably well.
Kellie Hill [24:44]
Oh, thank you. Well, I again I’ve lived very healthy and I continue to do so. So I feel like that. That’s a great piece of my life and hopefully I will always look and feel younger than I am But experiencing life and death situations. It ages you in a different way. Not necessarily physically but emotionally. You know that when you have to stop and think about the fact that your kids might be raised without you that you will be there for them. It’s a it’s a difficult thing to to explain unless somebody’s been there and it’s not pleasant. So I wouldn’t wish it on anybody if I can help people keep from having that happen. I would choose that. But it did happen. And I’m not going to deny it and I’m not going to pretend like everything’s great and we just move on and you know, bounce back and it’s like, it didn’t happen, it did happen. And so I have that opportunity to, to use it and I do think it gives me a better platform because I have been there I have experienced it. I know how awful it is. I also know that That, like I said, One in three, don’t come out. They’re dead at that point. And that’s, that’s a staggeringly scary statistic. And I, you know, now get the opportunity to hopefully help lots of people not be that one in three.
David Ralph [26:17]
Now this mission started as opposed as a very entrepreneurial show. And it changed very shortly after it started really, to a focus on happiness. So what we talk about a lot, Kelly is the fact that if you’re in a crappy job, and you really, really hate it, and every day event, oh my god, I don’t want to do this. You’ve got decisions to make and you you can do stuff to change your life. And it may not be a straight A to B journey. But you can do remarkable stuff for the rest of your life. You don’t have to be unhappy. Is that something that is linked to heart attacks, so happiness and distress and comfort, compare and noia as I was given this word the other day where we look at other people’s ssese and Pete, why not me and I should be doing more with my life and sort of giving ourselves a bit heads up.
Kellie Hill [27:06]
Yes, all the stress, anxiety, depression, they definitely have shown that that affects heart attacks, especially in women. Now what percentage compared to other risk factors? That’s that’s a little questionable and they’re still trying to figure it out. But it certainly is huge. A lot of women end up choosing not to go to the hospital because they ignore the symptoms thinking that it’s Joe I’m just depressed I’m, I’m you know, having a bad day. I just hurt I have a flu a cold a young, they brush them off. And men I think have been trained a little better. That if you have any pain in your chest, you go to the hospital. I don’t think we do
David Ralph [27:49]
away. I think men are the world’s worst for not doing anything about it.
Kellie Hill [27:55]
Well, you know, interestingly, they’re better about going to the hospital because it It’s been more but joke on TV since you know the 50s. I mean, if you all the way back to, you know, The Honeymooners and Stanford and sun, a lot of those TV shows, joked about, you know, the men saying, you know, this is the big one. And that I think that helped men realise that you if you have a pain, there could be something seriously wrong with you. It doesn’t mean that they pay attention, but at least it’s been clear that heart disease is a big problem. Heart disease for women is a newer problem. We, you know, it really wasn’t happening even 20 years ago, and now it’s the number one killer. So there’s obviously a lot of factors have to play into that, you know, not just one, but a huge part of it is definitely not being able to manage our stress, you know, being concerned about all those things that you you talked about and not being able to just let those things go and say, you know, so my kids, you know, still running around in diapers a little longer than everybody else or isn’t reading as fast or whatever, you know, the the comparative issue is, you know, my car isn’t as good My house is what you know, pick, pick any number. And you know, if you can let that stuff go, you’re certainly going to be happier, feel better. And you know, chances are you’re not going to have any cry as many chronic illnesses as you would have if you’re sucking all that in all that negativity in your own life. I you know, it’s it’s a it’s a horrible killer for people.
David Ralph [29:34]
Well, let’s play some words now. And then it’s gonna take us to the second part of our conversation. And these are words I love playing on the show, so I’m gonna play him again. He’s my show. This is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [29:45]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job and our family had to do whatever We could survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [30:11]
Now due to falling into those words, as he says, and obviously we’re going to discuss them in context of what we’re talking about, but do you do buy into those?
Kellie Hill [30:20]
Definitely, definitely. I think one of the things that I didn’t do as well, I took the McDonald’s job because it was with my husband, the soon to be husband, and it paid well, it put money in the bank. And you know, that’s that. That’s important when you want to start a family and have a house and all those things. But neither of us had a great love for the job. We didn’t teach our children to eat that food. I brought my own lunches. He brought his own lunches. It was a treat, and for growing up as a child, McDonald’s was a treat because we couldn’t afford it. Now, of course, it’s more food that people eat on an everyday basis. And so one of the things that I quickly learned, much like what he’s saying is, you know, you, you can take a job because it puts money in the bank. And in and of itself, there’s nothing wrong with that at some point. But that type of concept will kill you in the long run, because you’re not saying yes to the things that you want to do. And that, to me, that’s one of the pieces that I have taken away from my experience is that I now say yes, and then I figure it out. I don’t stop and go, well, gosh, can that work? Is it going to be okay? How am I going to make that work? I say yes. And then then figure it out. And sometimes ultimately, what I figure out is I need to say no, and, and change it. But I start with Yes. And then just see, and it is amazing. It’s scary. It’s a risk taking at a level that I never would have done before my heart attack, I would have taken a safe trip, I would have taken the safe route,
David Ralph [32:11]
but after a heart attack, you almost kind of think, Oh, I got I’m gonna play safe. I’m gonna keep myself nice and calm but you’re actually happy to put yourself in a stressful, scary situation because of it.
Kellie Hill [32:24]
Yes, yeah, maybe not just from the heart attack, but a time I had the heart bypass surgery. You know, and that that’s, that’s a six month recovery. It’s it’s six months of laying around, slowly moving, you know, depending on other people. It’s not not a pleasant recovery by any means. And then followed that with a stroke where I’m laying in the hospital I realised you know, I can’t talk. I can’t swallow. I you know, can’t put my fingers together on the left hand side. You know, I My husband may have to, you know, take care of me for the rest of my life. That’s not a type of life I want to live. And that the between the combination by the time you know, it started more after the bypass surgery that I began taking bigger and bigger risks. And after the stroke, there’s not really a risk I wouldn’t take at this point. I mean, unless it might kill me, I guess I probably wouldn’t take that risk. But I now I’ll say yes. And just go for it. Because I’ve I’ve wondered whether that was all that was left for me. You know, am I going to just be laying around in a bed? You know, drinking through a straw and having other people take care of me? No, no, I live through that. I’m on the other side of that for the most part. I have very little residual effects from it, which is amazing again, great.
Unknown Speaker [33:57]
Yes, yes, it is. Actually, and people have something.
David Ralph [34:03]
Yeah. And is it just diet? Because I was when you were talking about it, I was thinking, did you have to learn to talk again and all those kind of things that you you hear about stroke. But, of course you become a radio host and all those kind of things. So was a big problem to get back up and running to be able to do that.
Kellie Hill [34:21]
I know I was really fortunate. things came back relatively quickly. I worked really hard. I mean, I won’t lie that I it wasn’t like I just laid there and hoped I mean, they sent me immediately to various speech pathologists, and I don’t know, tonnes of therapists. I have no idea three different therapists of different people. And I listened I paid attention. I did the exercises. They told me all the time I focused on and coming back as fast as I could, and there wasn’t too much physical trauma. I was I was able to I did the research and found out You know, with the left side, being less mobile as my right side, I needed to do things that have affected the right side of my brain. So I started trying to learn another language. I took up tennis and pickleball things that that made me use both sides of my body equally. So I, you know, would have to work on catching the ball with my left hand because my right hand had either a paddle or a tennis racket. And so I, I would have to focus on those things. And, you know, I didn’t I didn’t sit around and hope, you know, I worked very diligently at it. Because there was no way that this was going to be the end for me and given that opportunity. Again, I thought this is how can I say no, how could I play safe? I at this point, it would, I think it would, it would be a bit in the face of you know, whatever deity you believe in at that point, I’ve given another option. Another opportunity I better get out there and take it.
David Ralph [36:04]
I find it fascinating doing this show and I’ve been having some conversations recently with people that I think my God, they they seem to be getting everything thrown at them. I had a conversation with a lady the other day who literally said she hit rock bottom four times she hit the bottom and then she went deeper and then she went deep and every time she bought it can’t get any worse. And he did. But she keeps on coming back. Did you feel that a bit when when you had your health is was it for God’s sake don’t deserve this? Oh, yes.
Kellie Hill [36:35]
Yeah, I was so pissed off quite frankly. I mean, I I was so mad. I thought you know, it’s not fair. How could this happen to me I’ve done everything right. You know, I don’t smoke I don’t I don’t do any of the things and then of course I went the other direction went well damn it I should have then I should have been out smoking and drinking and doing drugs and doing all the stuff because What difference does it make? And then I realised it makes a huge difference. The difference was I didn’t die. I’m alive. And I lived through it again and again. Which Yeah, no, still not hugely embracing the love of that moment. But I did I lived. And that’s, that’s more than than most people are doing right now. You know, I mean, that’s, that’s fortunate, lucky. And my option then is, Do I look that gift horse in the mouth? Or do I take it and run with it as hard and fast as I can? Because it might happen again, and maybe next time I won’t live through it. And so do I want to just wait around and and have nothing to show for this opportunity again? Or do I want to look back and say, I did it all I did everything I wanted to do and more. And I think that’s the best anybody can do. And sometimes I think maybe you have to have that hit rock bottom or or Huge medical issues or something that makes you look at it and say, yo, how long do I play it say? And I’m not. I’m not saying you know that people should do crazy stuff. But if they have options that they want to do, now’s the time because you know what you may not see tomorrow.
David Ralph [38:20]
I agree with that totally. And I think every single person on the show I can’t think of one offhand that did something just because they wanted to do it. They always seem to be they were getting away from something. And and they honestly think but your health issues, were a great thing. It just seems to me that you’re alive, you’re savouring every moment. You’re going for it where the majority of people and I get emails time and time again from people that are just lined with excuses why they’re not doing something where it’s they’ve got all the time in the world, they think but they haven’t. They’ve got all the opportunities but they’re not taking them But you seem to be somebody that’s going for it because of the issues. I do think it’s a good thing although Yes, I wouldn’t have liked to put you through it myself. But you embracing life on you.
Kellie Hill [39:11]
I definitely there’s no part of me that waits around anymore. And and I was I was playing it safe before and maybe not as safe as other people. I’ve always been a little bit adventurous but I just I now realise that that quite literally, you know, especially here in the United States when I found out that one in three women are dying, that I mean, that’s a huge number. That’s a number that means you know, if I really want to do something it What am I waiting for, you know, or what am i saving something for? That’s always one of my favourite ones too is people come over to my house and for our wedding, you know, years and years ago now, we were given some weird mismatch pieces of Waterford Crystal I’m So there’s no set of them. And for the longest time, I always had them up in the cupboard, you know, for something special. And it didn’t take long after the first heart attack for me to bust those out on a regular basis. And people will now ask, they’re like, gosh, this is really nice crystal for you to be just serving me a glass of whatever in the house. You know, doing nothing fancy I said, but every day is fancy, isn’t it? I mean, I may not see tomorrow. So what am I going to do? let these sit around and grow dust in my cupboard? I mean, let’s enjoy him right now. If you break it, who cares? You know, what’s what’s the option? My kids are gonna sell them off? Yeah, after I’m dead anyway. So let’s let’s just enjoy it. And so I think it it’s given me more of freedom in that aspect to just say, you know, just do it. Just go with it because I just don’t know what tomorrow will bring for me. And and and unfortunately for me, that’s Probably more true than most people is because I don’t know, I have no idea if the whatever causes my medical condition may pop back up tomorrow. And you know, I may be somewhere that nobody can save me. And what do I What do I get to look back at? Did I get to look back and say, I lived every moment for what it offered me. Or I sat around and watched bad TV. Well, you know, watching the world go by me
David Ralph [41:28]
popping up as a brilliant message for the listeners out there. It really is the fact you know, we all have wardrobes of clothes, that we keep it just the best. And then we look at it and think we’ve never won that ones because best never turns out and literally, every day can be best, isn’t it that that’s what you’re saying? Every day should be lived like, not as your last on Earth, but it’s one or two savour It’s a celebration. Every time you wake up in the morning, it’s a celebration, but I cause we get wrapped up in life are Gotta get to the train. I’ve got to get to where I’ve got dubious. I’ve got to do that. I find actually, Kelly and I’d be interested in your point of view on this because I know that you sort of are your coach with Clinton and you’ve been on TV and you’re sort of a mover and shaker in that thing. Do you find that this sort of real successful people seem to have managed the fat side of it, there doesn’t seem to be that urgency, there seems to be an awareness of what their skills can bring. So they play to those strengths.
Kellie Hill [42:26]
I don’t know. You know, it’s been interesting as I’ve done, I think I’m pushing in on about 30 TV appearances around the country. And, uh, you know, I think sometimes there’s a lot of luck and some of them have great agents and people behind them to help them and I think the the person that comes up from on their own, it’s, it is more that it’s more, I have something and I want to share that and I’m gonna do everything I can to put Put my best foot forward. And the more you live that, the easier it becomes. It doesn’t become, you know, oh, I’m dressing up for an event. This is just me. This is the day I want to look good because today’s special. And I think I think you see that more from the people that I don’t know come bootstrap themselves up, I guess you know, that aren’t aren’t handled by somebody, but actually are just doing it all on their own. And I do think those successful people that they just, they live that life, it isn’t. It isn’t for show, it really is who they are. It’s who I try to be. And you bring your best. It doesn’t mean I don’t sit around and sweats from time to time. I mean, I don’t dress up every day or, you know, pull out the good crystal every day or anything. But I’m not afraid to do it. And I don’t let it I don’t let that go. Things sit in a closet or in my cabinet or wherever and and hope for the special day because I don’t know why isn’t TODAY SPECIAL seems special to me. I’m alive. That’s about as good as it gets.
David Ralph [44:13]
And then when you first went into the TV environment, because clean and you can listen to Clint office on episode because he mentioned you on there, and he was saying,
Kellie Hill [44:22]
I do need to listen to his
David Ralph [44:24]
Listen, and I’ll tell you what he says because he says a lovely thing. He said that. He’s so proud of how you have blossomed from a housewife to a TV star and you know how to do it. Is that right? Does it take time to know how to do it? It’s not as simple as sitting on the couch answering a few questions and then 10 minutes later or five minutes later being on your way. Is there a skill that you have developed, which you didn’t have in you?
Kellie Hill [44:51]
Oh my gosh, yes. Oh, wow. Those when I look back on that my first radio shows and my first TV clearances. Oh, yeah, not so good. But everybody has to start somewhere. And again, I was willing to say yes. And, and say, Okay, let’s do this. Let’s see what happens. Let’s throw myself out there. And what’s the worst that happens? People say, Oh my gosh, she’s terrible. Okay, whatever, you know, at least I tried and it those first ones are pretty bad I you know, I I laugh at him. And we actually talked about it I you know, now I have people that help me obviously. And we talked about you know, maybe we should take some of those first videos off of my website and off my YouTube channel. And I send out leave them up there. So I’m stone face and I look scared to death. And I’m, you know, trying to remember the words and it’s not fun really to watch. But it’s it shows the progress that you know, it shows that I didn’t just magically appear out of nowhere and you step into the race. Do or step on to the TV and it was just this, Tara here, you know, magic. It took work it took really messing up a lot of stuff to get it right. And that’s okay. I think it’s important for people to see that so we’ve left all that, you know around and I don’t hide it because it does take work it takes listening to people and figuring it out and, and a lot of practice and effort. Why don’t you I’m sure you know the same thing you know that. You you start and it’s a lot of work and it just gets easier and easier. The more you do it.
David Ralph [46:34]
Oh, absolutely. And the thing about doing a show like this, every single thing that I’ve done is still online. If you go back to episode naught point five right at the beginning, it’s a kind of very subdued version of me. And it’s just competence. Every word, you’re desperately trying to think of what to say and how to angle it. And I listened back to episode one the other day, and it was an interview with a gentleman called Tom Marcus And I wasn’t embarrassed by it, because I knew that I was doing my best at that time. But it is a journey. It’s a progression. And I love the fact that as you say, my errors are all out there, and people can go back and listen to the first episodes and go, Well, he wasn’t very good was he? And I go, No. But after 200 episodes, I’m a lot better and after 500 I’m gonna be even better and smoking you but you’re gonna start. And that’s the key thing, isn’t it?
Kellie Hill [47:28]
It really is. And that’s, that’s part of why I didn’t take it down to because I thought, you know, this is people need to know that it you have to start you just have to jump out there and say, Yes, okay, I’m going to do this. I’ll figure it out. I’ll make it happen. And it’ll work and it may not be perfect fact it probably won’t be perfect. But it is a start and that’s that’s all you can do. I mean, if you have a dream, a desire a goal, you just you have to say yes. And then see what happens. And it probably won’t be great the first few times. But if it’s what you really want to do, then go do it.
David Ralph [48:08]
Yeah, don’t hang around. But I’m going to play some words now that are the theme of the whole show. And there’s no getting away from it, Kelly, these words are great Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [48:19]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [48:54]
So do your dots join up? Can you join up your dots?
Kellie Hill [48:58]
I can actually It was fun when I really sat and thought about that the first time a few years ago, and I realised there’s good and bad dots, there’s the dots that were symptoms that unfortunately, I wish I had listened to, that would have kept me from having my heart attack. There’s the dots that led up to where I am now, that said, Okay, good or bad things that happen, including a lot of mistakes. Each one of those is part of that journey. And you know, it’s not a straight path. It’s a twisting, windy, you know, upside down roller coaster sometimes, but each one of those is that that.or that stepping stone to the next piece, and it’s what makes us the people we are and when we look back at those, if we’re I think personally, if if we look back at those dots, and we’re not like oh, yeah, that was great. Oh, that was bad, but yeah, well Whatever. If you can’t look back at those dots like that, then you’re not doing the thing that you love your life won’t have that same meaning. I mean, I look back and, and some are good, some are bad, some were huge mistake somewhere, you know, weird choices that worked out great. But all of them ultimately led to where I am, which is super happy to be and that I can’t ask for anything better in life or for anybody else to be able to look back and then each time we we learn more, I mean, it’s the difference between you know, being 20 and being 45 is you know, you have a lot more dots to look at, which gives you a better idea of which dots to pick as you move forward.
David Ralph [50:49]
And what is your big dot out of everything that’s going on? What was the one that you look back on? You go Yeah, that that’s probably that’s probably that I will remember most
Kellie Hill [50:59]
Wow. Which one would I remember most? I think, actually the point when I decided to walk away from McDonald’s when I chose to, to leave the system, knowing that I wouldn’t have money. I mean, I had enough money to start my new business. But it had to make it if it didn’t make it, I I don’t know what I mean, I’d go back to a job. I mean, then that’s what I told myself. Worst case scenario. I’m qualified and I’ll go back and run somebody else’s McDonald’s, I guess if that’s what I need to do, you know, and take a nine to five job or I’m going to make my own business. And I’ve been so fortunate in that business to go on and do radio and TV and best selling books and all sorts of fun and exciting stuff that I never could have seen. I never sat down and made a five year plan and said, okay, you’re one I want This and you’re too I want to be in radio and three, I want to be on TV and for I want to be speaking to large crowds. You know, I wouldn’t have thought of that all I wanted to do is be able to make sure I could pay my bills that first year. And, but that’s probably the biggest one that that that was the one that you know, put it all on the on the line. I risked everything and luckily my husband was very supportive. And you know, we did we planted in the fact that there was enough money that it wasn’t going to wasn’t going to eat beans and rice again, like I didn’t college I probably was going to be able to, to eat. But it was a huge risk. It was a huge risk that if, if this didn’t work out, I was going back to work for somebody else.
David Ralph [52:49]
And everything’s moved forward nicely as an and that’s generally how it all happens. So just before we send you back in time at the end of the show on the Sermon on the mic, I think the the wise question is To ask all the listeners, from your experience if I have got concerns about their health because obviously that’s what we’ve been talking about, what was she? What should they do? What What is the main thing that I should do?
Kellie Hill [53:13]
They need to be their own advocate above all else, find out for yourself. Go to your doctor find your risks, do some research online. I mean, I know most people kind of, kind of blah the online thing but there’s a lot of great websites I mean, use good quality websites, you don’t need foil
David Ralph [53:31]
when you find that you’ve got everything if you go online, that’s fine.
Kellie Hill [53:34]
You can you can but you know if you if you start on good websites, whether it’s you know, I don’t know at Web MD or, or you know, there’s a lot of real doctor sites now that aren’t just Wikipedia stuff. And, and really pay attention. American Heart Association here in America has a great heart related stroke and cancer and there’s group Go Red For Women. Man, there’s a lot of options out there to at least begin to understand and then go and be your own advocate, you know, see your doctor if you’re not getting the answer that you like, keep hunting. You know keep finding somebody until you find somebody that you connect with is listening to you, uh, you know, I can’t speak to health care of course and in other countries but here it’s really easy to be dismissed when you don’t have something very definitive and it’s very easy to be just given a pill and sent on your way. And if that’s not what you’re looking for, if you if you want actual answers, and somebody to talk to you need to keep keep hunting, but there are great doctors and naturopaths out there that are doing it right and they’re willing to listen and and take your concerns to heart and you won’t be dismissed but it does take research it takes being your own advocate and feeling confident in yourself that you know something’s going on, you know and being open to trusting yourself as you go talk to those people
David Ralph [55:11]
wise words indeed and it’s something that I should pay more attention to. I’m my wife’s always saying to me Oh, you should go and get something checked out. I got Oh, yes, I should I never get around to it. Never get around to it.
Unknown Speaker [55:23]
Well, now you definitely will one of these.
David Ralph [55:25]
Yes. Oh, I Kelly. Now I will. And I’ll drop you a line and save. I’m going to be around for a few more years. But this is the end of the show now. And this is the part we call the sermon and Mike when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Kelly, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, we’re going to find out because we’re going to play the theme tune and when it beats you up, this is the Sermon on the mic.
Sermon On The Mic [55:56]
Here we go with the best beer The show
Kellie Hill [56:13]
This is your older self. I’m gonna say more wise and Kelly. And unfortunately, I’ve lived through some things that weren’t real pleasant, but I live through them. And that makes it really pleasant. So I want to, I can’t stop what’s going to happen for you, because you have to live through it to get along your dots your journey, but I can give you some ideas on how to enjoy the time better.
If I could do it again. If I can let you have my wisdom I would say listen to yourself.
You always know what you really, really want. You always have you always will. I continue to,
but you ignore it. You ignore it because you don’t trust yourself.
is so important.
You know what you can do?
You know what you probably should do, but you don’t trust yourself to do it. So you need to take the risks, trust and take that risk. Don’t waste a single minute. Every minute is so precious. It’ll become more and more precious as you go along. You have to live for today. day because there may not be tomorrow.
Listen to yourself sit for for just a minute and really listen to yourself What are those dreams? What are those goals?
Why aren’t you doing them it’s going to take a major catastrophic event for you to take that time to trust yourself
David Ralph [58:37]
Kelly how no audience connect with you.
Kellie Hill [58:42]
I have a website Kellie Hill nutrition calm
David Ralph [58:47]
that was very shortly that’s how I like it. I normally get people they say every single social media thing known to man but we have all been linked.
Kellie Hill [58:54]
I you can find it all there on the website. On the website. They got all those cute little clicky Thank you For, for everything under the sun these days,
David Ralph [59:03]
so you don’t waste a minute in your life any longer. Kelly, thank you so much for spending time with us today joining up those dots and please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Kellie Hill. Thank you so much.
Kellie Hill [59:20]
Thank you so much for having me.
David Ralph [59:23]
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