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Introducing John Murphy
Todays guest, joining us on the Join Up Dots free podcast interview, is Mr John Murphy, a man who from his core is a winner.
And best of all he likes nothing more than helping us all be winners too.
He lives in the South of France, but calls the world his office, as he works with individuals and corporations across the globe to make them see the opportunities they have all around them.
The opportunities that can bring wealth, success, and enjoyment into their worlds.
But this guy certainly didn’t start with a global approach to business, as if we go way back you would have found him pounding the pavements, knocking on doors.
You see he began his career as a door to door life assurance salesman, but ended as the CEO of a Pan European Life Assurance Company in Ireland.
How The Dots Joined Up For John
So he knows the hustle that it takes to not just start knocking on doors, but actually building his own doors.
The right doors, that can lead to a life of fulfilment and a life of dreams.
He is now the owner of his own international company, and of course the host of the podcast ‘Winning at Business & Life’
So how John Murphy, born and bred in Ireland break free from the surrounding conditioning of what is possible for a young man from Ireland?
And does he see the issues that he encounters with his clients, the same across the world, or is there geographical reasons that hold us back from achieving what we want?
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs on todays free podcast with the one and only Mr John Murphy
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with John Murphy such as:
How he remembers growing up in Ireland, but doesn’t remember the great entrepreneurial spirit being prevalent in the world at that time.
How he wasn’t sure that after years climbing up the corporate ladder, that he was ever truly on the right ladder.
How he looks back at his day to day job as the door to door salesman, as the most amazing training that he has ever received.
Why a great way to build your life is to consider what makes you excited in life, whether it is a favourite book, tv programme, or film and ask “Why do I love this so?”
Why he buys totally into the words of the late Steven Covey, “‘Live, love, laugh, leave a legacy” and is trying to do that everyday.
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Full Transcription Of John Murphy Interview
David Ralph [0:00]
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when we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:37]
Yes, hello, everybody. This is David Ralph. This is Join Up Dots. This is Episode 388. And you want a blueprint for success as voiceover man said. Do you? Do you want a blueprint for success? Well, you’ve come to the right place because we have got a guest today joining us on the Join Up Dots, who from Ramiz call, I suppose is a winner and best of all, he likes nothing more than helping us all be Winners to. Now normally he lives in the south of France. But he’s talking to me from Ireland today. But he calls the world he’s office as he works with individuals and corporations across the globe, to make them see the opportunities that have all around them the opportunities that can bring wealth, success and enjoyment into their world. But this guy certainly didn’t start with a global approach to business as if we go all the way back, you would have found him pounding the pavement knocking on doors. You see, he began his career as a door to door life insurance salesman, but ended as a CEO of a pan European life insurance company in Ireland go him he did well, so he knows the hustle that it takes to not just start knocking on doors, but actually building your own doors, the right doors that can lead to a life of fulfilment and a life of dreams. He’s now the owner of his own international company, and of course, the host of the podcast winning at business and life. So how did a man born and bred in Ireland break free from the surrounding conditioning of what is possible for a young man from Ireland and does he see the Issues encounters with these clients the same across the world, always their geographical reasons that hold us back from achieving what we want. Well, let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr. JOHN Murphy. How are you, john?
John Murphy [2:14]
David, I am fantastic. And I’m delighted to be here with you this morning and looking forward to this hugely,
David Ralph [2:19]
it’s gonna be a good one, john, because I’ve already tried to flirt with you didn’t I flirted? I didn’t know that I was flirting. But I would tell listeners, I actually said as long as you’re turned on john bats. All right. And I don’t have any say that to me. No, I don’t.
John Murphy [2:33]
What is my first flirt today? So I’m delighted. Thank you.
David Ralph [2:36]
It goes with your first coffee, doesn’t it? If you can get that? Absolutely.
John Murphy [2:41]
That’s what we want.
David Ralph [2:42]
That’s what we want. So in the introduction, I was reading it actually. And I wrote it a while back because we connected to bring you onto the show. And that there’s a lot of kind of, I don’t know, that’s effort. There’s effort that runs through that. I know from being a guy from island More often than not, the people that I have spoken to from Ireland have found their surround, and this is going to be a sweeping stereotype. So your passion is back at me, I’m sure. But the people that aren’t spoken to have said that they’re surrounded by people that are happy to get to retirement, they’re happy to be the baker. They’re happy to be the postman. They’re happy and I don’t seem to want anything more from life. They’re just happy to go with what’s expected of them. Did you find that growing up?
John Murphy [3:26]
Well, I suppose I did. I mean, if I if I go back to I mean, I you know, the time that I grew up, you know, Ireland was not a country that was that was wealthy and it has been wealthy in recent years. It’s not as wealthy now as it was about 10 years ago. But at the time growing up you know, there’s nothing much was happening there was it was not a wealthy country, there was not a massive amount of opportunity. So you know, the doing the the normal things, what one one will determine has been normal doing the same thing. You know, if you grew up and you got a job in the bank or insurance company that was kind of very much the wage the path to success. So they hold entrepreneurial entrepreneurial spirit really wasn’t born and didn’t really come come to fruition until probably you’re talking about the the late 70s, early 80s. And I think it has changed since then. But certainly I go back in time, you know, you know, when we talk about the condition, you have an early age, it was about playing it safe. It was about, you know, do what you can to get a safe steady job. And then, you know, do it, you know, clock the hours in until you get to retirement at 65. And then hey, presto, everything is fine. And you know, that that model has just been shattered. I mean, not only in Ireland, but around the world. Because what we discovered, in fact, I mean, there’s, you know, you mentioned that my I come from a life insurance background. I mean, the whole pensions industry has actually demonstrated that it doesn’t work, and it hasn’t delivered on its promise. So, you know, that whole concept of retiring at 65 frankly, we’re living too long because there’s no funds that can actually, you know, generate the income to provide for that. So you know, everything has been thrown up in the air. And I think that there’s a huge change. Yes, in Ireland, that has been a massive change in the last, you know, 2025 30 years. And international years is the same. But yes, I did come from that background where it was about, you know, do the same thing. Don’t stick your head up over the power of it, you know, keep down, just get the steady job and and everything will be fine. And and you know, of course, with the benefit of hindsight, that’s not the best advice.
David Ralph [5:25]
I course, it’s not but but the thing that I’m finding john, and it hit home this week, because my daughter went on a school trip, and we had to take her down and a bus turned up as as all parents do, and we sort of waved them off for the day. And then we’ll go down the pub and enjoy ourselves waiting for him to come back. And when I was in the 70s, I grew up in the 70s. I was saying to my daughter, do you know I went on a school trip to a building site and there was these this building site around the corner and the teachers took us there and we could just climb up ladders. There was no health and safety or anything in that regard. But nowadays, safety is everywhere. Well, and I’m finding interesting, but that would never happen now. But we’re in the employment sense, we are embracing risk like we’ve never done before. But in the 70s, we we kind of lived life with no risk, but employment was very much the safe route. Did you know what I’m saying?
John Murphy [6:17]
Yes, it was, I think that what we, you know, what we realised, I mean, you know, we, we’ve all known and you and I would have known people in our, you know, parents generation that kind of joined the company at 18, and retired of their 65. I mean, that, you know, that won’t happen again. I mean, that simply won’t happen again. It there’s no such thing as a job for life. There’s no such thing as somebody staying in one place and doing that. So the whole thing has been completely changed. And I think to elevate large extent, I think it’s been changed for the better because I think what it did in gender and people was that, you know, you just kind of ticked along and you continued and everything was, you know, a little next year, you might get a little bit of an increase or you’re a couple of BB extra, but there was no real kind of say, Well listen, let’s change things completely and utterly let’s kind of turn things on its head and do things very differently. And, you know, for all of us, I think we are now in phases in our lives where we’re kind of reinventing ourselves. I mean, as you and I have done, you know, I mean, I said my background was in the insurance industry became CEO, you know, and one of the great things about, you know, corporate life is that when you become CEO, you are very well paid, and you are very well looked after, but it becomes this kind of fertilised mousetrap that because it’s very difficult then to leave it but you realise that, you know, you need to continuously reinvent yourself. You can’t just say, Okay, I have now made it in inverted commas and stay there and say, okay, the status quo, no, no, no stays the same. You always got to look at reinventing yourself. And
David Ralph [7:46]
you say that, john, I imagine most people would say, as you were sort of alluding to that the CEO of a pan European life insurance company, basically, you know, starting as a door to door life insurance salesman and getting there. But that’s already the dream for Build but the fact that you got to that point when it’s not really what I want to do I’m going to go out on my own that is a huge leap brave decision isn’t it that that that is that goes against the norm I would have thought
John Murphy [8:11]
well maybe maybe it does. But I think that learning for me and all of that I mean I you know, I started as a as a as a door to door salesman because prior to starting life as a door to door sales when I had my own business in the clothing industry and and I ran that for about six years, three of which were very good and three of which were very bad. And unfortunately the three that were But yeah, I did the three they were good so I ended up not a very good position and I ended up you know that I needed desperate because I had just got married back absolutely and lost everything lost a house last night lost everything I needed a job but I thought what I get a job doing this as a ga or life insurance as well until I got myself a proper job. And I’m probably never found the proper job but you know, and then progressed on from there. But then, you know, you think back at the time and for me, you know, success was, you know, I often kind of Muse about it now it was, well, you know, if I became if I became a manager, and then that’s success and then if I became the sales manager, that was a success, and then I became a sales director that was success. And then if I became a sales and marketing director, that was success, and then it became a general manager, I never became a CEO. So I knew went on and on and on. And I realised that you know, to a large extent, it was if I saw that I was making progress up the ladder as well success and to an extent as well as but I never really really stopped because I got on this treadmill and every stop to say, is it actually something that I want? Is it white matter? Yeah, I mean, very much at the Stephen Covey I you know, maintaining the ladder against the right wall, and to a large extent I when I got to see you and I enjoyed I’m not you know, decrying it or not, you know, saying I was unhappy doing it because I enjoyed it. I enjoyed corporate life. It was Good To me, I hope I was good to it. You know, I got to a level to a senior level. So, but there was a little bit of me that says when I got there and I looked around, I thought, actually, you know, I’m not really all that fascinated by the view from here. And I also had a mantra that I was I said for years, that the day I started true Pete myself, I’d leave, which as you know, David is one of those kind of easy one liners to say, when you’re not repeating yourself. But suddenly, when you wake up one day and say, oh, Christ, you know, this year is a bit like, last year.
David Ralph [10:34]
Exactly, john, and that’s, that’s what I had. And that’s why I left my my corporate gig. I was in insurance. And I just felt that, that the words that I was I was a corporate trainer, and I just felt that the words I was saying, didn’t it The audience was probably getting the same benefit from them, but I didn’t feel them because I’d heard him 100 times before. And I just felt that I was on a record going man to man to man and comes a time that you won’t ever get very, very dizzy and hang on, or you jump. And I jumped. And I’ve never looked back, really. But it was very much where you just feel like you’re going around in circles somehow.
John Murphy [11:10]
What Yeah. And I kind of just began to feel that, you know, if I don’t make it fair to corporate life has been the pearline mousetrap. And I think that’s so true. Now, it’s not my term. But you know, because you’re well paid or well looked after you’ve got your expense account, you fly, first class, all of that sort of stuff. And to walk away from that there’s a certain element of why am I doing this? And certainly, some of my friends are saying to me, Are you insane? You know, you’re a highly paid, you’re successful, you’ve got a good track record in the company, and you’re not going to start off a business from scratch.
David Ralph [11:43]
So what do you believe them when they were saying that because more often than not, it’s very fragile at that stage, isn’t it? One, one word can push you back to where you were?
John Murphy [11:53]
Yeah, it is. I suppose there are two things. One is that I’m stubborn, and and and I kind of decided that I didn’t want to Yours. And so that was one part that was helpful. And the second part was that I actually knew deep in my gut, and it was a gut more than a kind of a left brain logical thing. In my gut, I kind of thought, I am not enjoying this, it is not fulfilling me. It is not giving me the kick that i thought that i thought i would get get out of being in this road. It certainly did give me a kick for a number of years, but it just began to wear off. And I also know that I’ve got a low threshold of boredom. And if I start getting bored, then I probably say I’m getting a bit dangerous to the organisation that it’s employing me because I just get bored. And I knew that if I didn’t make the change now, I was going to deeply regret it. deeply, deeply regret and how old were you done? I was I was 48.
David Ralph [12:48]
Okay, so you’re coming of age where people more often than not will go, this is what I do. This is where I am.
John Murphy [12:56]
Yeah, and I knew if I didn’t make the change then that’s it. was, you know, I was going to make it very, very difficult to actually to actually make the change and a couple of years beyond that. And I also, you know, kind of really felt that, to a large extent, if you look at kind of what you want to become, and what you want to be, is not somebody who settles and, you know, that would be, you know, just a nightmare for me to believe that I will become somebody who just settled for something. And I made the decision to leave before I made the decision of what I wanted to do when I left,
David Ralph [13:32]
if you know what I mean. No, I that’s an interesting point. And actually, that’s gonna spin it on to my next question, really, because I get so many people who contact me through the show and even friends who I go down the pub and have a drink with. And they also say to me, this isn’t what I want. I’m bored. I thought it was going to be a good job, but they’re looking for the opportunity before they made that decision to leave. So you did it the totally the opposite way.
John Murphy [13:59]
Yeah, I like that. That that was kind of helpful because it was helpful and frightening at the same time because it was kind of say, Yes, I’m leaving, but the other part was saying, Okay, so that’s pretty clever. But now that was what he got to do now and and that but it but it kind of made one part of the decision because there are two separate decisions. It’s a decision to leave and then decision what you’re going to do and and if you try and bundle the two together, I think you’re going to end up making a flawed decision. So I think you’ve got to kind of unbundled and make the decision say okay, well if I’m if I am going to leave that is one decision, then the decision is after that is what am I going to do in the knowledge day but then you would know and identify with this that you know that what you start off doing? may not be what you end up doing? Hmm,
David Ralph [14:45]
yeah, absolutely. But it but it seems with me, but one of the you know, we’ve really just connected today, it seems to me your communicator, it seems to me You’re a connector, and you’re a networker. It seems quite instant to me, which isn’t bad. difference from being a door to door salesman is it you knock on the door and instantly you have to make those connections and make people feel at ease and build that client base. So that door to door life insurance salesman was really a good training for what you needed to do in later life, wasn’t it?
John Murphy [15:16]
Yes, it was. I know many people say oh, my God being adored store says what has got to be the worst job in the world? And you know, I would disagree with us. I mean, I would certainly look back on those years and selling insurance door to door as you know, David is not easy. And, and but I would look back on that has been one of the great fun jobs that I had. It was it was great fun, because you’re engaging with people, and you’re engaging with people at a very personal level. You’re in their homes, you got to know them, you build relationships with them. And I would look back on that as being in the one of the greatest training grounds for me in terms of lots of different things and you talk about me Education, you talk about engagement. And you talk about, you know what you learned through the years that it doesn’t really make much difference whether your title is, you know, door to door salesman, or a sales manager or a sales director or CEO you are selling. And you’ve got to remember that that’s what you’re doing. You’re setting an idea, you’re setting a concept, you’re building relationships, and relationships. It is all comes down to that because people still buy and I don’t care whether you’re talking about online or offline. And you and I both have businesses that kind of straddle the two. But whether it’s online or offline, people will still connect and buy from people they know like and trust. And it does come down to that. And it does come down to that. And if you look at even in corporate deals, you find that at the end of the day, there’s this there’s a relationship in there that has been the catalyst to make that happen. So I would be as I would agree, the going back great training ground. What it teaches you is the importance of building and sustaining relationships, not just kind of building them in order to get a sale, but building them in a way that is a long term relationship. And that’s how you build close relationships with people. And it’s how you build businesses.
David Ralph [17:14]
Because I can take my my knowledge base back to RDD years as a cold caller for a bank, and you basically just got a number and you phoned up and you had to make the sale, and you had to be able to connect and engage with that person very, very quickly. And at the time, it was fun. And then it became a slog as sales does. So I moved into the training environment, and so I never looked back from there. But doing this job, the fact that literally, we connect two seconds before we start recording, and then have one of those conversations that you have, when hopefully you’ve known each other for years and years and years. I can link back to that and I see the same thing with you. But it is the the learning when you don’t expect it that stays within you. And it’s one of those things that I talked to people on my When I sort of do coaching and mentoring, and I say to them, you know, you’ve got to look back and you got to look at the things that you didn’t think were relevant at the time, but I still within you, but you can just do naturally well, because you did it for years and years and years, and find something to move forward with. Find something that you can embrace it if you can find it globally. So you’re just not looking for your next door neighbour and your auntie and a dog and all that kind of stuff. You’re really starting to sort of cook on gas somehow, aren’t you? But oh, absolute knowledge is in you. You just need to put it together and package it somehow to be able to move on to the next thing.
Unknown Speaker [18:33]
Yeah. And I also think not not to remember not to forget sorry.
John Murphy [18:38]
When you moving through different roles within the organisations is that the fundamentals don’t change hugely, the fundamentals in terms of when you’re building a business, you’re building your career, whatever it might be, that you know it is going to be it is going to depend on the quality of the relationships that you have with people. As you go through because when you become if you become a CEO of an organisation, large organisation, as I was, they your success is determined by the people that you have around you. So your ability to be to select the right people put the right people in the right jobs, and then getting them to work effectively together as a team that is going to determine your success. It’s not down to the degrees or you know, your intellect or anything like that. Yes, you’ve got to have a certain amount of intellect to achieve it to to play in the game. But after that, if you’re looking at the role of a CEO, if you’re looking at the job of a manager of people, it’s your ability to work with the team select the right people to get the right people, as Jim Collins says, getting the right people on the bus and then getting them and moulding them into a team that they work effectively together. It’s not just enough to hire bright people and I work a lot with Oregon. I do it a team programme with organisations and which is a year long programme. And the reason it’s a year long as only because you’ve got to stay with them to ensure that the stuff that you talk about in the very early days, that you’ve got different reviews to make sure it’s embedded, and the change, if you get the behaviour, right, if you get the trust rise in that team, anything is possible. But if you hire the brightest people, and don’t mould them into a team, where they are working effectively together, and they’ve got a relationship of trust, then they might be the brightest people in the world, but you’re not going to achieve half of what they’re capable of.
David Ralph [20:38]
Well, let’s play some words now that and will lead us seamlessly to the next stage of the conversation but it will drag us back to what we’ve already been talking about that that leap of faith you did that overcoming the scariness in your life. This is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [20:51]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an account. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [21:18]
Now, interestingly, we thought from what we were talking about, you actually succeeded at what you didn’t really want. And then you had to make the decision to go again. Can you see both sides of the fence from what Jim Carrey saying there?
John Murphy [21:31]
Oh, I can and I think that you know, it’s it’s is one of the one of the problems because I mean, I know that a lot of the coaching I do with people and and is, you know, when they come to me, and they’re talking about you know, either in their career that they’re looking to make the next move or get to the next level. And, and one of the things that I always kind of say some guys, you know, what, what is your purpose in life? What is it that you want to you know, let’s stand away from The job, let’s turn away from the career that you have mapped, because Are you really sure that this is what you want to do? And very often the answer for somebody is is I okay, they might come back and say, Well, actually, no, it is, which is great. But, you know, every now and again, and you know, not not that infrequently, people come back and say, you know, I’m just not doing what I want to do. And what happens is that people get into, you know, the job, they go to the traditional route, they get the job, they get a bit of promotion, they, you know, get a bit of extra money, they take on a mortgage, and now suddenly they feel, you know, I can go off and start something on my own, and they have this perceived security about the job, but they also on the other side, feel the trap of the job, and you know, and are scared and society will tell them that they are being irresponsible. If they don’t If they leave to kind of go off and do something and follow their dream, though, that’s just for you know, that’s just silly stuff you, you can’t do that your your marriage and your gut and mortgage and you’ve got the kids going to school. And you know, I think the greatest gift that we can give our children is the gift that they’ve got freedom to choose. So you know, I absolutely I love that, that that that snippet from from Jim Carrey because you know, if you’re going to stay at something and it’s not just a job, because if you stay at something that you don’t like doing, it’s not just going to impact your career or when you’re at work because you can’t help but it’s all of you that turns up for work. And it’s all of you that goes home and you can’t compartmentalise yourself like that. So you’re not going to be buying Are you not going to be kind of pretty unhappy and frustrated at work, but actually deliriously happy and and and fulfilled when you when you leave. It doesn’t work like that. It spills over. We’re just we’re a single Today, we’re not just kind of, you know, the weekend bits that we put together like Lego. And and I think that the shame of it is and you see people who have worked through the careers doing something that they didn’t like to do, because they had, you know, this safe job always secure and I get the pension, but it damages them personally, and they don’t become the people and don’t be they don’t get the enjoyment and the fun of doing it. And, you know, you, you, you you mentioned, Dave, the podcast that I have and I you know, I titled winning at business and life and that’s very intentional, because it is about winning at all things. It’s not just about the career, it’s not just about the monetary side, because successes, you know, we we all have different determinations about what success is, but is about being clear about what is the success What does does success mean to me? What is my purpose? What am I doing to fulfil it? So
David Ralph [24:55]
how did john
John Murphy [24:57]
Oh, it’s soul searching. It’s It’s not easy. And I, you know, I always say to my I always have to clients. Yeah, I know, this is a really easy question to ask. But I know it’s an awfully bloody tough question to answer. I, and you really have got to Search Inside Yourself to find the answer. You ain’t got to do it in one go. And I mean, I’m working with somebody at the moment. And it’s, you know, it’s really, it’s really tough. It’s really tough. But the process until
David Ralph [25:25]
you are tougher them,
John Murphy [25:27]
tougher them, right? tough for them to actually really, really dig deep because, you know, the education system that I went through, and I’m assuming years of it same, you know, none of my teachers asked me was what was my purpose in life? And, you know, we don’t you know, it seems to be one of those kind of woo woo things going on. It’s not it’s actually at the essence of a What is my life about? You know, the great Stephen Covey the late great Stephen Covey kind of said, you know, it’s something that I absolutely buy into, you know, it’s about to live too long. To learn to leave a legacy. So, you know, as parents and your parent, I’ve got three daughters, what legacy am I leaving them and I don’t mean financial. And my intention is not to leave them any financial legacy I don’t intend to spenders. And you know, and I hope that the day I die is coincides with the day I run out of money. And, and because that I feel I really, you know, I’ve worked the system well. But the legacy isn’t kind of what what what their beliefs are, how you live a life, how you go after life, how you know, embrace life, and how you really, you know, go for it and not taking a and take risks, and to do something. I mean, I give an example I have a daughter works and lives in San Francisco. And, you know, for a number of years after she finished college, and she was saying, Oh, I’d love to travel and I’m a great believer, you know, live in France. I’m from Ireland, live in France, and You know, travel around an awful lot of a lot of my work takes me into different so I love travelling. And but she, you know, finished college in Dublin. And she kept us Oh, you know, I might go and work in the states for a while and then oh, something has come up and something has come up. And then she say, you know, I want to sit down down and talk about, you know, what am I gonna do my career and eventually I can say to it, I’m sick of having this conversation with you. Because, you know, you keep on saying to me, you know, why don’t just go to the States? Yeah, mine just goes, Oh, well, you know, you I don’t have a job and saying to me, you know, you would think me very irresponsible if I just, you know, resigned my job and then you know, didn’t have a job. And you would say that I said, What then be irresponsible. But unless you make the decision that I’m going to go and stop finding reasons not to go. And two days later she resigned A week later she had a job in San Francisco and she still there.
David Ralph [27:51]
And she ever say Dad, Dad You were right. Always just unspoken.
Unknown Speaker [27:55]
Oh should never say that.
David Ralph [27:59]
But we all know We know as fathers don’t have daughters, we know wherever,
John Murphy [28:03]
God, God forbid I could ever be right.
That’s not part of the lexicon at all.
David Ralph [28:09]
So it says you will podcast but in winning at business in life, really, it’s more winning at life and business is is the life bit that drives the business. And if you gain your life and happy in yourself and happy to make decisions when the other big sort of takes care of itself somehow.
John Murphy [28:24]
Well, it does. I mean, you’ve got to have business goals, and you’ve got to have business objectives. I mean, I mean, because part of part of, you know, for any of us is that, you know, we need to, we need to find a way of generating money, I’m not being dismissive about money, because in the same way, I wouldn’t be dismissive about having a profitable business, right? Because if you don’t have a profitable business, well, then you know, you’re not going to be able to do the work. So you’ve got to generate income, you’ve got to have, you know, you know, what it is that you’re going to do in order to generate the income and have a profitable business. So I’m all about having a successful business. But what I’m saying is, make sure you’re doing something that enriches you Make sure that you’re doing something that is aligned with your purpose and aligned with what you want to achieve and that you enjoy. I mean, one of the great things and I think you and I would share this I mean, you and I we don’t go to work you know, we do something we love we we are our hobbies, our business. Yeah. You know, we’re doing something with our passionate about, I never feel that I’m going to work. You know, I never have this kind of Monday morning. Oh, God, here. Am I going to the office? Right? I never have that feeling. And people who are working and things they’re passionate about a you do it better be your chances are you’re going to be a much more success with us. And see you just don’t ever feel that it’s work. So I mean, also when you talk about going back to were saying earlier on about retirement, why would you retire from something that you like doing,
David Ralph [29:49]
but I talk about this a lot, because one of my big musical Heroes is Paul McCartney. And you see him now and he’s like 72 and yeah, he’s voice isn’t as good as it was and all that kind of stuff. People keep saying to him when he gonna retire and he goes, why? If I wasn’t doing this I’d be doing it anyway so I might as well get paid for it. And you can well yeah, I can see that I can see that totally but people across the world seem to go Oh Come on sit on a beach john. Go go and go never rest do a jigsaw in the afternoon and walk down to the pub and stuff. But you’re gonna be going you’re going to be the McCartney on Yeah, you’re gonna be the McCartney of the business world.
John Murphy [30:25]
Oh, yeah. I mean, I I mean, I like going to the beach. I like going to the pub. I like all those things. But I also like work. And so I’m never going to be in a situation.
David Ralph [30:35]
John Murphy [30:36]
I am most engaged when I’m doing the sort of thing that I’m doing now. And when I’m coaching people, that’s when I’m most alive.
David Ralph [30:44]
And exactly purpose when he said
John Murphy [30:46]
it is very much Yes, yes, it is very much my purpose. And my purpose is very much around, engaging with people to help them find their purpose and to win a business and life and I will be very, very impressed. To me, and it will be very much my guiding principle in anything that I do when I’m engaging with people because, you know, I, I do think we were all given, you know, whether you believe in God or whatever what a movie so whatever was but we all have talents and skills that are innate to us. And it’s up to all of us to be the best that we can be with those talents and gifts. And you know, I think one of my talents is that I’m good at helping other people and and and you know, and I don’t say that from a kind of an altruistic or holy holy position, but just simply that’s what I’m good at it the part of corporate life that I enjoyed was coaching and developing the team, which is why when I realised I was going to leave and I thought, well now what am I going to do? You know, it was kind of well which bit did I like? So I just picked the bit that I liked, and just continue doing that. And I made that into a business and so yeah, to me it it is very, very much around that path to actually finding the fulfilment for yourself
David Ralph [31:59]
because I’m I think he’s quite easy. Now I’m doing this thing. And I find it quite easy. But I imagine his soul searching for so many people. Because one of the things we talk about in the Join Up Dots timeline is to look at your younger self. Look at the young john, who just love doing stuff because he loved doing stuff. And that’s, that plays to your essence. But then look back over your life, and start joining up the dots for the things that maybe you didn’t like, but you were good at that. So for example, for me, I loved training, I love standing up in front of people doing the do, but actually writing courses I hated. I love doing the cold calling, even though other people said, you know, it’s the most dreadful job ever. So if you got enough of those down and start playing around with it, something will come out of it. And more often than not, it’s the V word. It’s the value. You realise that you are providing value to other people and that’s where your business opportunity start. Right? For example, Johnny Another thing I realise and I do realise it until I started doing this. But one of my talents, my sort of just born talents is when I get really passionate and infused about something, I can get other people passionate and abused. So if I’m standing in front of a crowd, and I’m just saying why we should do this, we should do that, more often than not, Yeah, come on, let’s do this. And we can sort of run out and overthrow the government or whatever we want you to do at that time. But it’s, it’s those kind of naturally born gifts that you don’t realise, or you don’t realise you’re using on a daily basis. That’s the key essence. But then you put the skills around it and build something, don’t you?
John Murphy [33:32]
Absolutely. I think it is about finding that core. And I think, you know, very often when you talk to people about, you know, saying, Oh, you know, I, I’m not really happy what I’m doing, but I don’t really know what I want to do. And it is that process of kind of saying, Well, you know, what sort of environments Do you like working and what sort of what sort of people do you like working with what sort of time working in an office you’d like being mobile? You know, what sort of things do you enjoy doing when you’re engaged with people? What are the things that actually you find the You get buzzed about, what do you actually get excited about? What do you actually find that you’re passionate about? When you look at the books that are on your show? What are the sort of books that you read? You know, other than drama fiction? But you know, outside of that, what sort of books you do you read books about history? Do you read books about personal development? Do you read books about psychology? What are the books, that one of the things that you’re drawn to because the things that you’re drawn to you just will be better at? And is to find those things and then say, Well, then, how can I craft and shape this into into something that, you know, is a value to other people, and if it’s something that’s a value to other people, then you’ve got a commodity and a product to sell.
David Ralph [34:39]
But people will still go out? So right the john out. So for David, I don’t know where to start. But believe me, you didn’t know where to start? I don’t, I had no idea. And I’ve been doing this job for coming up a year and a half, two years now. And there’s still moments when I’m doing something and I think, Oh my god, I should I’ve been doing this from the beginning, I just, it never dawned on me. And I have to go back over all my shows and change things and stuff because you basically make it up as you go along, don’t you?
John Murphy [35:08]
Well, you do. And because that’s the process of evolution, you know, I mean, when I started my own business, you know, 10 years ago, and you know it, when I look back in it, it looks an awful lot different now. And, and it just has just evolved because you keep on saying, Okay, well, that worked well, and I hone that. And I polish that and shaped out a bit more. And, you know, that didn’t work so well. So I dropped that. So it’s constant evolution and constant change. And, you know, I mean, I started my coaching business, a very traditional offline coaching business where I went to your office on a Monday morning and we sat there for three hours and, you know, and then discovered, well, that doesn’t really work in today’s world, and then just began to evolve it and we’re at the stage where now you know, the vast majority of the work the one to one coaching, I do is all online. So it’s all done virtually is done the way that we’re having the conversation here. And, you know, did I can I say that 10 years ago? I envisage that No, I didn’t. It didn’t happen. It didn’t exist them. But you will evolve as you see. And then you actually just get smarter and you just get better at it and you, you acquire and you also learn because the one of the great things is that, you know, what, and one of the exciting things that I find, for me certainly is that I’m always learning new things. I don’t come from a generation that is naturally comfortable with the online digital world. It didn’t exist when I was in school. And so, but I’ve had to embrace it. Other people say, Oh, I’m not gonna bother with that sort of rubbish. Yeah, Is it fine, okay. But you know, if you don’t, you’re locking yourself out from a huge you know, swathes of the community and the market that probably you’re after So, but to me, it’s about the excitement of learning, finding new things. learning new things. And there’s always something new to learn. I’m in the podcasting world, for example that you and I are involved in, that’s evolving as we know, that’s a huge opportunity that’s got, you know, it’s only scratching the surface. So there’s something else that’s exciting to learn and evolve into. So I think that the The great thing about what’s what’s happening in the world today is that you can go and you can shape your business in so many different ways. And the online world is offering more and more opportunity.
David Ralph [37:29]
But it’s probably some words from a lady now but really, once again emphasises what we’re talking about the kind of not knowing the next step making it up as you go along, but just just doing stuff and this is Oprah Winfrey,
Unknown Speaker [37:41]
the way through the challenge is to get still and ask yourself, what is the next right move? not think about, Oh, I got all of this stuff. What is the next right move? And then from that space, make the next right move and the next right move? Not to be overwhelmed by it because you know, your life is bigger than that one moment, you know, you’re not defined by what somebody says, is a failure for you, because failure is just there to point you in a different direction.
Unknown Speaker [38:13]
Is it as simple as that john?
John Murphy [38:15]
Keno is actually is.
It I think it really is I think that we
essentially were talking about you should just the last thing she said there was about failure and I was having a conversation yesterday with with some people. And they were talking about an issue they had and saying, oh, it hasn’t worked out. It’s been a failure. And I say no, hold on a second. It hasn’t been a defeat a failure is not trying. Failure is not. Failure isn’t failure when you’ve tried and it hasn’t worked out. That’s not failure. Failure would be in that you haven’t even tried. And I so I think that’s an important thing. The other thing was about with Oprah is that you know, we I think we are all natural procrastinators. And I think that, you know, I don’t think I’ve met somebody who doesn’t fall into that category to some extent. And, and one of the things that can very often get Norway as procrastinators is that, oh, you know, it’s a big project, and I’ve got to get all the ducks lined up, and I’ve got to get all the pieces in place. So therefore, I can actually start this initiative, until I’ve got all of these pieces of the jigsaw in place. And go back to what Oprah saying, well, then that gives you the great excuse not to not to start and not to actually get it going. And if you take the approach that Oprah is talking about, which were very similar to actually the philosophy that David Allen has, and getting, getting things done, is just decide what’s the what is the next thing or the first thing that I need to get done, and then do that and then decide what’s the next thing I need to get done, and then do the get into action. Rather than, you know, I can actually start implementing this until I’ve got everything sorted out, get into action mode, and action mode gives you momentum. And the momentum will actually help you to get to the finish line. But if you, if you keep on waiting until you’ve got the perfect plan of you wait until you figured everything out, or you’ve got all the pieces absolutely mapped out on the table in the place and you’ve got the jigsaw completed, you actually will never start. So I would buy what she says to a huge degree. And I’d be a great believer, just decide on the next thing that you’re going to do. Get going get into get into movement, get into momentum, and then that build anew, you will actually achieve it, you know, you’re far better off, you know, getting into implementation mode with a plan that is 75% or 70%. There rather than waiting until you got 100% because it’s not Is the implementation and as the application has got to get your toes to success, not to thinking about us,
David Ralph [41:06]
because there’s the guy from LinkedIn, I can’t remember who he is, but whoever created LinkedIn, and he said something a while ago that I’ve just stumbled across. And it was something along the lines of, if you’re not embarrassed about your first project that you put out to the world, you’ve waited too long. And I created this thing called podcasters mastery, and I look back on it now, and I held it back for too long, because I wanted every video to be perfect, every everything to be absolutely nailed down. But of course, it’s working progress again. And that one phrase, and it was like it was, it was waiting for me because I hadn’t quite launched so if I just press the button and launch it and so that’s what we’ve done. But it’s not it, isn’t
John Murphy [41:48]
it? No, it’s not. And if you look at Apple, I mean Apple are a great example. Yeah, man, a massively successful company, but they’re a great exam but they put product out into the marketplace. That is not finished. I mean, most times when they actually, you know, put an A put an iPhone or an iPad out there, there are glitches, there are problems with it, there are things on work, the microphone might not work properly. And then I mean, do you think they don’t know that course they know it, but you know, they they’ve created an expectation to get out to market. And then as they get the feedback, they discover, okay, well, that’s really important. So we fix it. And maybe other things aren’t that important, you know, because there’s nothing, you know, there’s nothing more dangerous than ever hold on, the techies determine, you know, what the public want. And because they have just, you know, see it from the techie perspective, but they put it out into the marketplace. They’ve done that, I’d say with every single iPhone, every single iPad, they are put out into the marketplace. They’ve put it out. They’ve got the feedback, and then they fixed it.
David Ralph [42:46]
So when you quit your job, jumping back to that time, and you’re the night before you’re laying in bed, thinking right, I’ve written the letter, I’m going to go in, I’m going to resign. Did your wife or whoever sort of say, john Just think about it one more time, or was the family really firmly behind you? And what did you fought through those issues?
John Murphy [43:08]
Well, I upset very fortunate that my wife was completely behind me. And because she knew that I wasn’t really happy, and she knew that I wasn’t being fulfilled, and she knew that I was around her. So she was, she was perfectly happy. There was, of course, there was the little voice in your head, every now and again that said, Are you insane? You know, are you absolutely out of your mind, you don’t have one client, you have nothing lined up, you don’t have anything at all, you’re going to start off next month, and you’re going to have zero income. And, of course, the little voice in your head kind of every now and again, but you know, we all have that little voice and it’s about what you do about managing it. And for me, it was that, you know, I just went back to my roots in the sense that I went back and said, Okay, so how am I going to get going, what if I go back to the day when I started as a life insurance salesperson, again. You know, there was no income it was commissioned only, then what did you do? You did loads of calls. So I just spoke to anybody that would speak to me. And I made loads of calls, loads of connections. And you know, every at the end of every day I was horse. bit like a no, but but I was homeless at the end of the day, because I was having so many meetings. So that little voice and that little kind of voice of fear, just drove me into activity. But you know, that same voice of fear, can also drive people into paralysis, and to do nothing, and that’s where it becomes damaging. We all have that little voice to say that you never have had a doubt in your mind. I think you’re lying, because I think every one of us would have it and we’d have we will have it to the day we die. But it’s how you manage that and how you overcome it. And actually, you’re having the attitude. Going back to what what Oprah was saying there is always Okay, I don’t exactly know the outcome and the end result of this. But I’m going to take, I know the next step that I must take on the journey. And it is taking that next step, and that next step, and that next step, and then you begin to, well, what did I learn? what worked, what didn’t work? So I do more of what worked and what didn’t work. And then you just continuously evolve and hone it and polish it. But yes, of course, there was that little voice. I mean, you know, I just say my wife and my kids were very much of the attitude. Well, yeah, if that’s what, you know, they probably had probably have more trust in me than I had in myself. There probably are, well, he’s probably kind of thought this through and knows what he’s doing. Which is probably given more credit for the truth. But, you know, my wife was great about it. She was totally supportive. And but yes, there was that little voice in my head that was kind of gnawing away at me, but it was, what do you do about that little voice and how much ways you give that little voice and what that drives you to do?
David Ralph [45:59]
And also Are you financially better off now then? Has it been the perfect decision to make
John Murphy [46:06]
it has been absolutely the perfect decision to make I mean financially Yes, I will be better off. I don’t measure it that way to be honest with you. I mean, I’m so not being dismissive about money, because money. To me money is important because money buys your freedom and buys your choices. And that’s what it does. And and that’s the the joy of having a profitable business is that it does enable you to kind of make choices and do things that you that you want to do and how you want it want to live your life. But on the other side, I am I am much more. I love what I do every day is is just is great fun. I’m not saying there aren’t challenges but it’s just great fun, the the the client engagement, the conversation with people, the podcasting everyday is is really enjoyable, and I am an measurably happier as a person than than I was. Then, I also realise and it took me a while to realise that you’re working in the corporate life, I said, there are many things that are great about it. But one of the things that that is not so great, but as a reality in corporate life is that you have to spend quite a bit of time managing politics. And just to ignore us, is to be idiotic, because it exists. And as a senior level, if you don’t manage the politics, you will fail. I don’t care how bright you are. If you don’t manage the politics, you will fail. But the politics is an awful waste of time. And it was only after I left that I realised how much time I was spending and other people were spending in managing the politics. And I don’t have any of that.
David Ralph [47:48]
And that that that is the the bit that gets you down, isn’t it when you’re, you can be perfectly all right. In a company event. One person comes in and things just change or you’re perfectly okay. And then Things go in a slightly different direction and the whole atmosphere of the office change it. That’s, as you say, that’s what corporate life is. I don’t have that at all. I’m, I’m here, I’m in my recording studio, I’m looking out as a blue sky. And it’s just you and me. And at the end of it, I’ve got another six people that I’m going to have conversations with. And at the end of it, I turn it off, I’ll go in another beer and go to bed. And it’s lovely. But it wasn’t lovely to begin with. And if anybody wants to go back and listen to my anniversary episode, which was wild by Episode 367, you’re hear me. I, we, we spun it on its head and I became the guest and we had a guest host come in, and you can hear the journey that I’ve been on because he’s been hard, hard, hard, and he’s still hard, but it’s fun hard, but I haven’t got when he gets easy.
John Murphy [48:48]
Yeah, I mean, I certainly say that that’s when I left. I worked harder in terms of you know, real we I mean, I worked extremely hard to get the business going. And I would certainly argue that the that I probably worked harder at that than I’d had for years in terms of real, real, concerted effort, drive, packing meetings in getting work, delivering it, putting it all together and all that. I worked hard, but it just didn’t seem as difficult.
David Ralph [49:22]
Did it surprise you though? the hours that you were putting in when you started it?
John Murphy [49:27]
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yes. And enjoy. To some extent, David probably still does. Because, you know, and, and there are times where I kind of have to say, Okay, well, listen, you know, I leave that at the moment. I don’t need to deal with that right now. Because, you know, when you love something, it’s not hardship, and it’s not drudgery. You know, it’s something that you’re getting a great kick out of, but you’ve also got to make sure that you’re getting you know, that that the work that you do doesn’t become just everything in your life because, you know, I don’t particularly like the term work life balance because it seems to indicate There’s work there’s life. And to me, there’s just life. And you know, work is just one part of us. And to me getting that balance is finding the time to do all the things that I want to do in my life. One of which is the work that I do, but there are lots of other things that I like to do as well. So and there’s it, there’s Oh, I think it’s a danger for people like you and I who love our work, that we can actually just tip it into being excessive.
David Ralph [50:22]
Well, yeah. The next question I was going to ask really, because how do you do that? How do you separate yourself because I know if I’m, I don’t really like to watch TV anymore because my mind can’t stick to it. So if I am sort of sitting there out my laptop in and I’ll be still kind of half working away because I just really enjoy doing it. I don’t like we’re not doing it at the moment, which is a big problem. So when I went on holiday last year to Spain, I spent half my time looking for Wi Fi so I could just log on and work because it’s what infuses me I can’t separate myself from it. You’re good at that. I
John Murphy [51:00]
I wouldn’t say I’m brilliant, I have to say,
I’m not bad, though because I mean, there are things that I love doing. And I mean, I, I can switch off and I’ve learned how to switch off and I can disconnect myself from the Wi Fi and, you know, do things. I mean, I just came back from a couple of weeks in Florida where, you know, was, you know, there was a little bit of work involved in in the US, but the rest of the time I switched off, I didn’t really kind of engage with it. So I can do that. And it’s important to do that because it’s, it’s about recharging yourself. I love I mean, I live in France, I live in South of France down the line without region, and I love cycling. So I get out on a bike and I will cycle and you know, you’re not going to be connected to your Wi Fi on the on the bicycle or you’re going to be in serious danger. And so yes, I can do that I can switch off and I’ve kind of taught myself to do that because I I recognise that I need to mentally switch off from a because otherwise I, you know, I will become stale and and i think that that’s a that’s a risk. And that it becomes, you know, to condense that I’m not going to get anyone to lose and objectivity about what I do and what I’m doing. And you know, other things that I do, I, I’ve embraced things like mindfulness meditation, and I find that is really helpful as well. So there are things that I do to make sure I get more balance in my life because left to my own devices, I probably would be inclined to kind of tip over towards being obsessive about it.
David Ralph [52:37]
Well, let’s play the words of a man now who was obsessive about it. He’s no longer with us, but he has left some words that didn’t only shape shape my life. He shaped the whole show, and this is the words of Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [52:49]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect The dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [53:24]
So yeah, she says the words looking back 10 years later, and you’ve been building your business around about 10 years. Can you join up the dots? Can you see the journey that you’ve been on? What helped you push through?
John Murphy [53:38]
Oh, I can. Yeah, I mean, it’s it’s it’s a great quote from Steve Jobs. And I’ve heard it before and I think it’s, it’s fantastic. And you know, the thing about it is that when you look back very often when you’re going through it, you don’t really kind of realise exactly what it is that that’s changing. But, you know, I mean, certainly the catalyst in for me was, you know, okay, making the decision to Leave corporate life that was huge and I mean I don’t underestimate it it was it was a very big call to make at that stage of my life and to actually go off and do something something on my own then kind of getting into it and and I think it is the the process of continuous evaluation and where you’re going and and saying okay, I started off kind of with the business it was purely offline. It was you know, very much kind of, say going to your office going to going to businesses and doing it and then actually realising, you know, the world is changing, the world is becoming more fast paced, that sort of model isn’t working. So it was then saying, Okay, well now I need to change that model to to change it not to kind of go to your office and spend three hours on a Monday morning or Wednesday morning with you because your time poor and you know, you don’t want to hear me rambling on for that length of time. And say also wonder what how can actually change the model so that I can, you know, reach more people than it was Could I do with my phone then can I do by Skype and then it was Hang on a second if I can do it by Skype, but then it doesn’t matter where I am. Because now not only is my market, the geographical area that I’m in, but I can reach out to, to kind of anywhere in the world. And that was a catalyst for me then to move to Georgia live in France, because I love France already Francophile. And we have the house there for a number of years, and I enjoyed living there. So it was to move there because I recognise that moving there would force me to kind of, you know, drive me to having a more international business. If I stayed in Ireland, it was always going to be too easy and too comfortable just to pick up business locally. And my wife, I would have had ambitions to, to have an international business, you know, it would have been it wouldn’t have been wouldn’t have driven me to do that as much. So going to France was a catalyst for doing that. On a personal level. I want to do it I want to live in a different culture. So then that kind of brought me into kind of reaching out onto the online world that’s opened up opportunities massively for me Then I came across podcasting. But I came across that online. That all came as a kind of fitted in due to the message that I wanted to get out and building a platform for myself online. So yes, I can look back. I mean, I didn’t foresee any of that day. But when I started 10 years ago, let’s see any of us.
David Ralph [56:21]
So So what would you be? Don’t be if you look back over everything, but what would be the moment that you go? Yeah, that that that really was the moment that john Murphy found the speed?
John Murphy [56:32]
Well, there were two one was the decision to leave corporate life and start doing what I was doing what I was passionate about. And the second thing would would have been to actually realise that my, that the reach is not just what the traditional geographical reach that my reach was global, and that what the internet provides me was the opportunity to make that global reach. So I picked those two as being really, really massive. From a professional perspective.
David Ralph [56:56]
We’re very similar in many ways your journey is, you know, performance. Mind, but it’s the same concept. absolutely the same concept. Why drag the world to you? You know, I used to spend off half my time being sent to places. Now I’d never do that. I’d say no, I’m not doing that I do a conference call or Skype or do something like that. It literally does knock on doors across the world, doesn’t it?
John Murphy [57:19]
Well, it does. I mean, to for example, I sent you was I was in Florida last last week, I was in Florida, you know, I did call a call with a client that time is in the Middle East. Right now. I actually don’t even know whether I said to the client that I was in Florida, because it’s not relevant. Because it doesn’t really make any difference. I you know, I have a call later on today with a client of mine in in in Louisiana. Right. So that’s, you know, when you start to realise that actually, that’s your market, not just the market that I live in and the geographical, you know, that I can reach with my car, you know, is is just such a big region. There are other challenges in terms of the great thing about the internet is the reach the risk of the internet is you get lost. So you’ve actually got to be much clearer about your offer and your niche so that you can when people find you, they actually understand what you do. But you know, that, to me was a great dog. I mean, I picked those two, from the business perspective as kind of being the two real dots that kind of joined up and made the business what it is today.
David Ralph [58:28]
So just before we send you back in time on the Sermon on the mic to have a one on one with your younger self, I suppose the question really is, how do your clients find you? How is that going from the Middle East? How have I actually found you?
John Murphy [58:41]
Well, the family of writing always will be I mean, I do. I mean, I do a lot of stuff online. I mean, my website is www dot john Murphy International. com. My email is john at john Murphy international.com. I do quite a lot of stuff on LinkedIn. I do the podcasting, which is found an iTunes that winning at business and life, I blog quite a lot. So I, you know, I’ve kind of built a bit of an online presence. I, you know, you’re interviewing me. So that actually gets me out to another audience, I interview other people. And so the whole thing is kind of creating that platform where you’re getting your message out. And the beauty of what we’re doing now is that people, people can listen to us and they get a feel for the sort of people that you and I are, they kind of say, Well, I know what makes them tick, or I know what he stands for. I know what he believes in. And, actually, that’s something that I could I could do it, I could do it, getting a bit of help from something like that. So it’s not just kind of the like the traditional, you know, years ago where there was a brochure, you know, the the online world allows it to come to life and your personality and what you stand for what you believe in and what your values are. You know, that’s actually what people gravitate and that’s why people hire you, because they say, this is somebody I can identify with. They stand for something that I value, I could work with that person. And I could actually get something from working with that person.
David Ralph [1:00:07]
It’s hard. It’s easy. It’s exciting. It’s difficult. It’s all those things. And it is a journey. It is every, it is every one of those things. But, but the bit that you said is it, which to me is the most important one is that it’s so exciting. And there’s always new ways, and new things that you can do that make it exciting. And that keeps all of us on our toes, even on your Skype. And when I’m just about to sort of connect with people, I always look at Skype and there’s always a little sort of mantra at the top people always put things in yours. This is exciting times exclamation mark. And that really does emphasise the whole conversation doesn’t it emphasise you?
John Murphy [1:00:45]
Well, it does. I mean, I you know, it’s it’s it’s great to enjoy what you do. And it’s great to feel that sense of excitement. It’s also great to feel you know that what you’re doing actually matters. It’s it’s making a contribution to people it’s it’s a helping other people. And of course, I’m in business to have a profitable business. I’m not an ever, ever, ever, you know, will kind of diminish that or versus say that this doesn’t matter because I don’t have a profitable business, then I can’t help anybody. Yeah, absolutely. It’s the exposure is the excitement that it’s it. There’s always new challenges. There’s always new situations, there are always new people to engage with to all those new relationships to build to build up. I mean, you and I connected that it’s been great fun doing this. You and I will do things together in the future.
David Ralph [1:01:32]
Yeah, I’m sure so and the fact that I started off with saying, I hope you’re turned on and almost fancy. Stay excited, john, is it’s the way to finish a show in that
John Murphy [1:01:43]
just isn’t it just,
David Ralph [1:01:45]
well, I’m gonna play the theme tune now we’re going to send you on another journey. This is a journey when you go back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the younger john, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, we’re going to find out because I’m going to The theme tune and when it fades Europe This is the Sermon on the mind
Unknown Speaker [1:02:12]
with the best
John Murphy [1:02:28]
well young john, you’re 18 years of age, you are about to embark and leave school and go about your life. I my advice to you is to really first and foremost is to trust your gut. Trust your instinct. Trust what it is that you really want to do in your heart. Don’t listen to what other people are telling you as to what you must do. Don’t listen to the advice that you’re going You get in terms of the traditional route, Search Inside Yourself and just decide, what is it that I want to do that is going to make me feel good about myself. And that I believe this is something that I can work at, that I can enjoy, and that I can make contribution. So that would be my first piece of advice to you, young man. Don’t please get hung up with what other people say is the Safe Road, the traditional career road, decide and shape and mould your own. The second piece of advice that I would give you your man is to develop habits develop really, really good habits, habits that you are good that are going to make your days foundational whether it is about you know reading, whether it is about exercise, whether it is about meditating, whether it is about reading, it doesn’t matter. any difference what it is, but develop good habits that are going to help you and build you physically, spiritually, whatever that means to you. And that’s up to you, and emotionally, and intellectually, but do things everyday because one of the things that I discovered and I say this to you with the benefit of hindsight, and we’re talking to a lot of people, that the people that I have come across that will be, you know, well known internationally that I read about, and some of them I’ve met, they would all have a couple of things in common. One is that they have got habits. They’ve got daily habits and daily rituals, and they are determined by what they want to do in their lives, but they all have things that they do on a daily basis. That really is foundational. The second thing is that they are star things and they finished things. And the third is that they are continuous learners. And if you could embrace that young man that will be set you up for a life that you choose to live, and that you choose to live. My best the first point was getting about not just settling for the traditional career route, but decide what it is in your heart that you want to do, and follow your passion and follow your dream and then put the foundation in place on a daily basis of having good habits that are going to set up each day for you to be the success. So yeah, man, go forward.
David Ralph [1:05:36]
JOHN, how can our audience connect with you sir?
John Murphy [1:05:40]
They can get me to my website www dot john Murphy international.com they can email me john at john Murphy International. com they can go on there and they can engage with me and Twitter. It’s at JM I coaching. So I would love to hear from any of your listeners be delighted to answer any questions and chat with them at the Wish
David Ralph [1:06:00]
we have all the links on the show notes. JOHN, thank you so much for spending time with us today joining those dots. And please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Mr. JOHN Murphy, thank you so much,
John Murphy [1:06:16]
David. Thank you. It’s been a pleasure.
David Ralph [1:06:20]
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