Jason Freeman Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Jason Freeman
Jason Freeman is today’s guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots podcast.
He is a man who has a fascinating story, some might say a heroic story.
With the biggest smile you are likely to see he has overcome one of the most self limiting beliefs that anyone can have “That of self loathing”
As he says “At birth, I created a bit of a ruckus and lost oxygen in the process. As I grew, I developed a one-of-a-kind accent commonly called a speech impediment. Also as a kid, I had substantial coordination difficulties. For instance, in seventh grade, I actually threw a shot put backwards during a track meet!
I spent much of my life strongly disliking not being “normal.”
How The Dots Joined Up For Jason
At least I accomplished a good deal while feeling badly about myself, although, I wouldn’t recommend this type of motivation. I graduated college with a double major in English and Social Work.
I earned a Master of Fine Arts in Poetry. And, for ten years, I worked for an organization that served people with developmental disabilities.
This was an extremely rewarding job. On a daily basis, I was seeing the best in other people. Unfortunately, I was still often seeing the worst in myself.”
But of course, on Join Up Dots we aim to inspire and motivate, not to depress you, and our guest will definitely do that.
As little by little he found a way through his difficulties, to achieve the greatest breakthrough of all. He learnt to accept who he was, warts and all, and love himself.
And now a coaching business and a flourishing speaking career he is getting out there everyday, and leaving a trail of inspired folks ready to turn their limitations into extraordinary results.
So how did he start turning his life around, and is this a process that we can all follow?
And how is it possible to actually throw a shot backwards anyway?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show, to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr Jason Freeman.
During the show we discussed so weighty subjects with Jason such as…….
How he remembers being a child in seventh grade and bizarrely being worried about the threat of nuclear war.
How he learnt through being totally miserable in his life that he loves the peaks in life so much, he wants to ensure that gets more and more of them everyday.
How he recalls attempting suicide as a child, until ultimately choosing to live and embracing life, and the possibilities of what he can make of it.
Why there is nothing to stop any of us doing what we want to do in life, we just need to go out and get it!
How To Connect With Jason Freeman
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Full Transcription Of Jason Freeman Interview
David Ralph [0:00]
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When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [1:39]
Hello there everybody and welcome to Join Up Dots Episode 482. I think I’m getting the hang of this now. I think it’s starting to feel quite comfortable and I’m looking forward to where it’s gonna go. And I’m looking forward to today’s show. I say that all the time. I do. I love doing them. So why wouldn’t I want to have these conversations with people because On today’s show, it’s a it’s a man who has a fascinating story and some might say a heroic story with the biggest smile, you’re likely to see he’s overcome one of the most self limiting beliefs that anyone can have, that have self loathing. As he says at birth, I created a bit of a ruckus and lost oxygen in the process. As I grew, I developed a one of a kind accent commonly called a speech impediment. Also, as a kid, I had substantial coordination difficulties. For instance, in seventh grade, I actually threw a shotput backwards during a track meet. Not sure how that’s possible. Anyway, I spent much of my life strongly disliking not being normal. At least I accomplished a good deal while feeling badly about myself. Although I wouldn’t recommend this type of motivation. I graduated college with a double major in English and social work. I earned a masters of Fine Arts in poetry. And for 10 years I worked for an organisation that served people with development disabilities. This was an extremely rewarding job on a daily basis. We’re seeing the best in other people. Unfortunately, I was still often seeing the worst in myself. But of course on Join Up Dots, we aim to inspire and motivate not to depress you. And our guest will definitely do. As little by little, he found a way through his difficulties to achieve the greatest breakthrough of all, he learned to accept who he was, wants to know and love himself. And now a coaching business and a flourishing speaking career. He is getting out there every day and leaving a trail of inspired folks ready to turn their limitations into extraordinary results. So how did he start turning his life around? And is this a process that we can all follow? And how is it actually possible to actually throw a shotput backwards anyway? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up those with the one and only Mr. Jason Freeman, how are you Jason?
Jason Freeman [3:46]
I’m great, David. Hi.
David Ralph [3:50]
I’m always great. Jason Can Can you not tell that I live in a bubble of greatness?
Jason Freeman [3:57]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you exist. Do it that across the ocean to car California Thank you I am feeling the greenness way. And when now, thanks that’s what
David Ralph [4:11]
that’s what it’s all about making us feel great because you are somebody that I’ve been looking forward to having you on the show. And actually when I started doing the research on you for a while I thought you was Charles Manson’s grandson because I typed into Google Jason Freeman and found a totally different guys. So for a moment I thought I was having a very different conversation. You You are Jason Freeman, of the sort of the motivational world you get out there on a daily basis and do your stuff. Does it surprise you what you’re achieving now compared to what you used to be like?
Jason Freeman [4:43]
Um, yes, for most of my life, I I will lay misunder and not only the people misunderstand me, I I mentioned this to myself. I I listened To my voice, I saw my inclination and, and I, I, I envisioned a limited life for myself. So I kept living that vision of limited life and then daily basis and and that was kind of a Bama.
David Ralph [5:20]
I can Yeah, I know I can imagine it was because that’s the problem, isn’t it? If you believe in yourself, then things start moving your way. If you don’t believe in yourself, you just go around in circles. It’s that kind of internal value. If you feel like you can provide value to the world, the world basically says yes, you can come and give it to us.
Jason Freeman [5:41]
Yes, I was going alone and so it goes and getting really dizzy. And I don’t like being dizzy.
David Ralph [5:49]
Now I can imagine that. So if we go back in time, I do need to get to this question because it’s an important one. And it is something that I’ve been struggling with today. I knew coming on the show. How do you throw a shotput? backwards you hold it in your hand and you just basically go for I can’t fathom how you did that. How did you do that? Sir?
Jason Freeman [6:12]
I actually can’t, can’t fathom that either. Was seventh grade. The spring on seventh grade, I was feeling the most insecure bomb bomb myself ever had I had has zits all over my face. I was way about nuclear war breaking out between the United States and Russia. I was feeling horribly uncoordinated. And mind say I wasn’t at all present in the moment. I was somewhere else. Somewhere drastically hours and I guess we have so many hours here. You have the power to shop backwards
David Ralph [7:04]
Do you think that’s a bit bizarre? Because I when when you saying a seventh grade and how old are you in seventh grade because in America you operate differently to United Kingdom. So how old would you be Ben?
Jason Freeman [7:14]
I am I think about 13.
David Ralph [7:19]
Okay, so you’re about 13 years old. So I could imagine at the age of 13, myself, I was interested in girls but girls weren’t interested in me. Yeah, probably was a bit spotty and a bit Zippy, I go along with that. But the worry of nuclear war never crossed my mind and even at the age now, it doesn’t really isn’t. It’s not something I dwell on. So do you look back on it and think to yourself, that was a strange individual. I was at that age.
Jason Freeman [7:49]
Yeah, yes, it feels like a lifetime ago and a yes, I was a very strange strange Individual I was was convinced that that I was told that I was playing alone in the Lord and not because peep other people didn’t love me I had have hands that adore me I had had friends but I was so so convinced that people will in late like who I was that I isolated myself and and when we isolate ourselves we we become a bit strange.
David Ralph [8:36]
Well we do Don’t wait if we spend too much time in our bedrooms on our own. I think we all become a bit strange. So did you do you look at it. Now obviously, we’re going to go back and forth, which we do in Join Up Dots. But do you look at it now and actually go? Those things that I didn’t like as a 13 year old actually are the making of me. I wouldn’t change a thing.
Jason Freeman [8:57]
Yes, I mean
Now on the same boys I, I solo and seventh graders is propelling my career forward the same voice I hear people are finding courage and inspiration and as I then will realise all the treasure I have under my nose by again, seventh grade angle, I’m glad to realise and now
David Ralph [9:35]
you got two treasures under your nose Avenue because you you’ve got your smile as well. And I don’t think I’ve seen any photos of you but you look miserable. You look like you’re just loving life every single day do you feel about when you wake up every morning? Do you go? Yes. I’m Jason Freeman. Not the Charles Manson grandson. I’m Jason Freeman with the big smile.
Jason Freeman [9:58]
Yeah, yeah. I always say The toes mountain. Yeah and the um no. Sit, sit so honestly I I
Unknown Speaker [10:10]
Jason Freeman [10:13]
life is like the ocean ocean I think with with the amount of money mountain of turbulence and I’m sitting down but but I learned through being through making myself miserable that i i love the apps. So so i a try. I do my bet is to be present in the moment and create the experience whenever I can.
David Ralph [10:44]
Now that’s a key thing, isn’t it? The I was listening to an interview with Bill Murray, the comedian recently and I’ve spoken about it a few times in my group coaching dream starters Academy that we have and one of the things that he is very funny. focused on is trying to become more present not drifting away thinking about the future or the past, trying to be really now in and he believes that by being really focused in on the moment he will achieve so much more so that is the kind of spirit that you’ve got as well.
Jason Freeman [11:17]
Yes. Act of a daily cultivation you know, because Yeah, because the mind the AI human minds are so mentally powerful, creating thoughts of the past and thoughts of the future and obsessing about things and, and all manner of stuff into to really love those thoughts, thoughts, though, bandwidth and thoughts but then to focus in on on the moment it’s as cons is a constant game.
David Ralph [11:59]
He It’s brilliant, isn’t it? When you do focus in on the moment when I’m doing these shows, I’m absolutely in the zone. And I don’t think of anything other than these conversations. And I don’t think I could do these if I wasn’t totally 100% present. But unfortunately, a lot of time in my life I’m not. And I’m kind of becoming more aware now that the real power that I can produce is when I’ve got that mindset of being there at that moment, being focused on that conversation, looking at that person actually paying attention when my kids say something to me instead of sort of half doing something. Why do you think that the majority of the world really hasn’t quite grasped the fact that by being there being present you start cooking on gas
Jason Freeman [12:48]
Wow, well that’s going dog question for ya. Mining here, but but isn’t them Why don’t question um Oh, I I feel I guess that there’s some I mean real creating a new a new was whoa so fast for heaven’s sakes I’m in San Diego and the EU United Kingdom and and we’ll having a conversation and then computer I mean this role is constantly creating new realities and M what with with that is so different from the war about ancestors who does who has a much more basic Ward if you will to live in and with a new wall this there’s just a lot that can see demo a on mind and, and so
David Ralph [14:06]
that doesn’t excite you, Jason at being in this age, you know, because I imagine if you went back in time, if you went too far back in time, your life would be totally different. Because the world wouldn’t have accepted your differences as readily as people do now, you know, we have same sex marriages and stuff, even five years ago, that was sort of unheard of, and now, it’s just sort of commonplace. So does it excite you the possibilities that you have at this moment?
Jason Freeman [14:36]
Yes, I am. I’m so so glad to.
To live in this time, um,
for I mean, for so social reasons. Um, I think I’m probably much more accepted in this time than I Ay, ay wouldn’t be in where they’ve been in the Middle Ages and I lived in in Hitler’s Germany in France and say I probably would have been killed. But but then but but then also i’m i’m a i’m a way I love to chew is hard for me to say the word right but I love it and I constantly and having a computer to do that makes my life so much easier. I’m so glad I didn’t live in the day of a manual tie wires and
David Ralph [15:48]
it would have been rubbish wouldn’t it?
Jason Freeman [15:49]
David Ralph [15:53]
Rubbish. The days of tip X on every desk. So how did obviously your difficulties Star you said that it was sort of lack of oxygen. So explain to me how your life changed right on that very first moment that you entered into this earth.
Jason Freeman [16:13]
Amen. Well, we’ll never know for sure it’s so so I came I’ve arrived a few weeks all in and welcome my pants in the middle of the night. And way away I know wasn’t a good thing to do. Um, I mean, I started being blind. I’m few weeks only, like got my dad’s a doctor and my mom has a clue ahead. So we got to the emergency room in time and and then pass has my umbilical cord guy, Paul out so Kinglake, a garden hose. Then I lost some oxygen. But but not too much. I always say boy, well, how much more severe difficulties me dead? And then if I was gay, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
David Ralph [17:18]
No, it would it would be a totally different show. If you were dead Jason I grant you is not something I want to go into at the moment. But if you do sort of look back on it, as as we sort of mentioned earlier, you found your power underneath your nose. But when you was the age of 13, and it’s not surprising, actually, I read somewhere the other day but at the age of 14 98% of children have low self esteem low self image, you know, which is incredibly high, even if you spend all your time as parents begging your kids up and saying that they’re lovely in their clever, deep down inside, but not so it’s a terrible time to go. Through, but do you think actually by going through childhood like we all have to do and especially you had to do, it does actually give you gifts but you can take into adult life?
Jason Freeman [18:10]
Oh, oh, definitely, definitely I think that they are in seventh grade and in the spring I actually attempted suicide. But But my heart wasn’t in it and I called for help right away and in the moment, and then moment I when I was calling for help a guide to, to choose, choose my life, a guide to choose to live with, which is a major gift to to make that choice and, and then I think also from that time, I was Looking back on the experience, I’m able to have a great deal of empathy for people going through all manners of different difficulties because because, I mean, I know what was without loneliness with a sense of isolation felt like for me so even though I don’t have other people as like showing hands, I can can emphasise with them and and that’s extremely valuable to be able to connect with people and yeah, huge. How did you try
David Ralph [19:41]
to commit suicide? Obviously I’m not gonna dwell on that too much, but I’m sort of interested how you attempted it, but you could call for help at the same time.
Jason Freeman [19:50]
So, so um, and dramatic change way. Aye. Aye. walked home from school into my parents house I shattered a bottle of aspirin on the whole floor. I asked them for a bed lay candy and then a drink drink a sip of, of liquor and then and then I’m more cuz some way I have like Grand emco is dumb mags or something. But then then after that I’m like my I just wasn’t I’m wanting to live I don’t want that that path so so then I called for help and and my main folks came and and now after that I got a stomach pumped, which is really painful, really painful and you’ve
David Ralph [20:55]
never had and you’ve never had a headache again in your life.
Jason Freeman [21:01]
Awesome, that’s awesome. I am bad Joe goes holy shit
David Ralph [21:08]
there you go you can have that one you can have that one. So is it a case of choosing in life is it a case of choosing and the people that do great stuff and are really successful is as simple as them choosing to do it choosing to start choosing to change their attitude.
Jason Freeman [21:29]
Um, I think about those a lot. And I actually don’t think it thing is I think choosing is one step but Bob when when I when I chose that day in seventh grade truth, that truth choosing them by any stretch of the imagination. nation make me my life instantly better. It was a struggle. I think, well Willie helps in life as a combination between choosing where we want to go, having a having a vision and then constantly hJ practising. What will we love to do?
David Ralph [22:31]
What do you love to do? What what? What’s the thing that really lights up Jason?
Jason Freeman [22:40]
Do I have to choose just one?
David Ralph [22:42]
Now you can be greedy. You’re Jason Freeman. You can have as many as you want,
Jason Freeman [22:47]
sir. So I’m good.
That’s my cheesy song.
So first, say I love I love yo yo, guys. I found Hatha Yoga at a time in my life. After grad school where, where I didn’t know what to do, I knew I didn’t want to teach, teach poetry and I was Baggins in South Dakota where I lead or gain the same job I have for 10 years and I’m like, I just don’t feel good. And so I walked into the Sioux Falls health club and and took a yoga class and and I didn’t think yoga would go well for me. I thought maybe the other students would look at me and laugh. I thought I definitely couldn’t do the poses, and I thought that teacher would pay me as I afterwards. Go Jason. Have you cancer bingo? Bingo is my style
David Ralph [24:08]
but I actually thought you were talking about yoghurt. Well, when you started I was thinking Oh, it’s yoghurt you’re going after but it’s Yoga is the bendy business
Jason Freeman [24:19]
Yeah, yeah. Oh no 999 going on but I like Star Wars and Star Wars yeah so yo yo God the the Benji business um and after that class I i’m john Lyon class I found I could do many of the poses known well but I could do them the my info students was supportive and in the teacher and by me back and
and now and
they change the all my all look on On My Mind, because I’m in London that day I go practice to change my mind. Um, there’s a call
I mean, I walked for exercise. For most of my life, I’m an avid Walker by, by genome that I, I could grow and become more flexible that I agree. We do his main stress level in a way that worked, that I could actually teach myself to concentrate.
David Ralph [25:48]
But that’s the key thing, isn’t it? But, you know, concentration once you can do that and you can separate yourself from the distractions that occur with your phone, beeping and Facebook, flashing and all that kind of stuff. concentration and focus is an absolute gift, isn’t it?
Jason Freeman [26:04]
Oh my gosh, it is such a game changer.
David Ralph [26:10]
Well, let’s play some words now that take us on to the next stage of our conversation. And these are by remarkable, Rocky Balboa,
Unknown Speaker [26:19]
you, me or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward, how much you can take it, keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done.
David Ralph [26:35]
Now, it’s quite obvious, Jason, that you are a winner. The fact that you’ve been through such miserable times as a child, but ultimately found that thing found that thing that was in you, it was there all along. Now, as Rocky says, It’s not about how hard you can hit. It’s about how hard how hard you can be hit and keep moving forward. Does that take you by surprise how much you’ve been I want to take in your life and still want to get out there stand up in front of people and and embrace the world
Jason Freeman [27:08]
I actually wouldn’t say it takes me by surprise cuz it just feels like lay my main light life I live in Dan and and as just my life
David Ralph [27:26]
yeah but but other people would would sit back and go oh it’s all right for him oh it’s never gonna happen well you know we’re surrounded by those victims in life but just give out all the excuses why something’s not gonna happen when ultimately it’s down to them to make it happen
Jason Freeman [27:45]
yes and and and for I went through to plenty of victim phases in my life well why me why Yeah I have to have this birth injury Why is my invoice late because why is my my inclination my birth but and then and then I went through expecting I mean the voice and coordination is was awesome when a Danwon to do something I was was afraid to do something I ain’t good does just just say I can and I could often convince people that with my with with the way my boys and coordination was so I went to a to playing victim victim times but I found playing the victim avenge boy was wasn’t fulfilling and, and frankly it got blind I mean, I had the cap on my life cab on whether if I could do and it was like walking on pacing alone in a tiny room over and over again and then venturing you want to go outside.
David Ralph [29:21]
So what kind of things did you say that you couldn’t do when somebody said to you, Jason, I want you to do this. Oh, no, I can’t. I can’t wait. Which kind of things did you knock back?
Unknown Speaker [29:31]
Oh, wow, I’m
Jason Freeman [29:35]
angry in grade school. I ain’t thought I have a little boy to. To to wait. Do you understand when I say that one?
David Ralph [29:50]
What word was it? Sorry, I think capture
Jason Freeman [29:52]
two to two years a years ago. Use a pen and write.
David Ralph [29:58]
Oh, yes. Yeah, absolutely. So you do Think that you will have the ability to write
Jason Freeman [30:02]
yeah yeah and and my my wonderful mom actually take dictation for for for me she helped me I mean when I homework I would dig up to her and she would write it down but it’s because I thought I couldn’t wait I mean I know I can say my name and the way the Willie Willie slow but well was that will absolutely the balls false I mean I was and being deliberately deceit boy I honestly thought I couldn’t but but now I’ve got four notebooks awaiting.
David Ralph [30:57]
So would you go back as you’re gonna do At the end of the show but would you go back now and shake vandal Jason and say Come on, pick up that pen and start writing
Jason Freeman [31:09]
when I go bag and shake shake the litter
Unknown Speaker [31:21]
Jason Freeman [31:24]
yeah yes part of me wants to Ober but part of me doesn’t know lo Jason was own ever shaking when I’ve done anything good cuz I was so. So selling my I had my mind
that I can write and
with with drive driving and things started to turn around while like going weather and sorry The age 14 year old Kenya learns from it and I have main doubts if I could dive and love to my own devices I probably wouldn’t prove to myself that I couldn’t. But mine down was determined you number thought of me not driving. So he told me out again and again and again. And we had a lot of close calls but but but now I’ve driven for most of my life and I love to drive I love the freedom.
Unknown Speaker [32:36]
But so so for the
David Ralph [32:37]
people out there listening to this conversation, would you say that literally there’s nothing you can do? Or you nothing you can’t do? Is it out there for all of us? Just we have to knuckle down and if it’s difficult, work hard about it, and if it’s easy, embrace it, but there’s nothing that we can’t do.
Jason Freeman [32:58]
A definitely that thing if you if you have a dream and and then also the world the willingness to to consistently practice towards towards that that Jamie you’re going to definitely go in that direction and in going in that direction is is the the joy of life doing tours well we will I want to do it, like have all our dreams of all while as dreams came true tomorrow. What would the final life be after tomorrow will be a great day having our dreams But after that, what will we do?
David Ralph [33:56]
Well a brilliant thing to say. Yeah, listeners if you didn’t quite catch that If things are easy for us, and you have a dream, and you go for it and you just achieve it, then what you’re gonna do the next day, you’re just going to wake up and just have the same dream again, of course you can’t, you’ve already achieved it. So the beauty of life is the ability to develop and push yourself forward and commit to something so that when you hit it is so rewarding. I was talking to somebody the other day, Jason about how amazing it would be back feeling that you’re on top of Everest or a mountain like Mount Everest, but it’s built out of your effort and your passion and your desires. And when you get to the top and you stand there and you put your arms out and you breathe in the fresh air, and you know that you can’t go any higher. You’ve achieved it. That’s it, and it’s all down to your efforts. How amazing would it be and that’s what you’re saying, isn’t it? If dreams were like, achieve yet tomorrow, it would be a speed hump in the road up a curb or something could be going up. It’s got to be a journey.
Jason Freeman [35:00]
There’s beautiful Enya. It’s only a speed hump in the ward. If a dream is only as feet hump, it doesn’t engage as fully in life. It doesn’t it doesn’t use our full capacity and in we want we want to live we, we want to expand rewind to, to be challenged. And we want to to go through the process of creating our dreams cuz cuz through through that process, we get to know the fullness of who we are and, and that’s amazing to know that phone as of who we are.
David Ralph [35:53]
So So what’s your dream now? Obviously you’ve got a flourishing business, your coaching your public speaking going extremely well obviously you’ve achieved a dream today to be on Join Up Dots but tomorrow what’s what’s gonna be a big dream for tomorrow? Jason?
Jason Freeman [36:09]
I don’t know I think is really all downhill after join, join join them
David Ralph [36:18]
you’re counting man. I bet you’ve said that to everyone but I’m gonna take it. I’m gonna take it as a as a positive compliment on that. But what what do you want to do? Do you want to do bigger and bigger conferences? Do you want to write books? Have your own show? replaced David Letterman, what do you want to do?
Jason Freeman [36:38]
I have a bunch of things I want to do. But one one of them is, is to speaking in schools on a consistent basis to junior high high school and college kids and willing When laying just give them perspective on on that, that only seeing them do a limited pilot of themselves as an agent into to have patience and be gentle with themselves and and allowing themselves to make mistakes and allowing themselves to do villains to kill because because they they’re growing and expanding in them magnificent
David Ralph [37:36]
Well, they are aren’t they but but you are as well every single person who wakes up every day should be expanding and becoming magnificent.
Jason Freeman [37:46]
Yeah, yeah. So that that’s one of the main games to speak to, consistently to those age groups and and so and so far Bogan have fewer engagements with those Asia, with with students and those ages, but why there’s no consistency. Yeah, so. So that’s one of the main dreams may and the dream is to finally Eva a few ebooks. But I would love to get a book to a major publisher, the angle and publish a book that really matters to be born and willing. When Lee has a has a great impact on the planet.
David Ralph [38:38]
Well, I think they have great dreams. And if you’re out there and you’re listening to this, and you know somebody in a school or you’ve got kids in a school, or you’re a teacher in a school whenever we have all the links in the show notes how to contact Jason, and as you’ve heard on the show, he will deliver to you he’s a man on a mission. And Mr. Freeman will come around and give you what forward in a positive way, won’t you Jason?
Jason Freeman [39:02]
Yeah, yes, I definitely well.
David Ralph [39:05]
Well, this is the bit of the show Jason, where we’re gonna send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Jason, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give? Well, I’m gonna play the theme tune and when it fades you up. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [39:32]
With the best bit of
Unknown Speaker [39:33]
Jason Freeman [39:50]
Okay, I’m going to give advice to to the Jason in seventh grade hoorah. Hoo hoo felt so insecure that he he had attempted suicide. And I was a first to that that Jason Yeah, I know you you feel alone alone kid with your voice and inclination. I know no one else in school has the things you have. But by but you’re not alone. It’s so human to feel insecure about, about things. You have fellow students feel insecure about things you came and even pad them. Your Pants show insecure about things you can imagine. So, so no yeah, you Pilot community MP boy you and I saw a neither lone lone wolf in and then me BP BP shell mainframe BP Sham with with yourself enjoy a you want like life to to be me totally perfect when rain now but life is about life has about growing in Yo yo yo yo yo Yeah, it’s a team. Yeah half a 26 you know for the 52 years so human. Yeah, just be patient. And then in Lastly, the nuclear war thing you’re so obsessed about me during the United States. And us as our then number happens yesterday takes a totally different cause. So you can you can, you can put that when I was high, okay because then it happens. No, no that so many people love you and in lay lay yourself, listen to do their love for you and then sub love that. So much of the beauty of life is learning to love yourself and accepting love from others. You can do this Jason, you can do this Jason.
David Ralph [42:50]
Of course you can. Jason. Absolutely. So Jason, what is the number one best way that our audience can connect with you, sir
Jason Freeman [43:00]
Oh, and they can go to me, man. They can connect with me by smoke thing knows in lieu of that and go domain website and Jason w Freeman, calm. And when you please repeat that data?
David Ralph [43:21]
Yeah, it’s www dot Jason w freeman.com. And we will have all the links on the show notes. Jason, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Mr. Jason Freeman, thank you so much.
Jason Freeman [43:44]
There. Thank you. Thank you so much, David, for having me on the show. It’s been on pleasure and beyond joining joining joining Up Dots
David Ralph [43:59]
Mr. Jason Freeman now hopefully you enjoyed that interview as much as I enjoyed doing it. And certainly it puts into focus VAT, what’s holding us back? You know, Jason’s had difficulties and he’s pushing on pushing on pushing on all the time. And more often than not, we say, I’ll do it tomorrow. Oh, what’s on Netflix tonight? Oh, I haven’t got money or whatever down to you guys. And hopefully after nearly 500, well over 500 episodes of Join Up Dots if you haven’t got the message yet, but it’s down to you when something is seriously lacking. Thank you so much for listening. As always, this is David Ralph. And this was Join Up Dots. We’ll see you again soon. Cheers. Bye, bye.
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