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Introducing Rob Scott
Rob Scott is today’s guest joining us on the Join Up Dots business coaching podcast.
He is a man who has been on a terrible journey to get to where he is today.
At least in my perspective it looks that way.
But perhaps in classic Join Up Dots fashion perhaps it was all these things that were needed to be experienced to make him who he is now.
As he says in his own words ” As a small boy I had been violently and repeatedly raped from the age of three to around eight years old.
Which left me feeling completely empty.
So full of shame, it was incredibly difficult for me to feel safe or trust anybody at all.
In fact, to deal with this trauma, my brain almost split into multiple personalities.
So that I could detach and protect myself when I was being seriously abused.
As you might imagine, I turned to drugs and alcohol to mask the pain, trying drugs as early as seven years old.”
By his late teens and early 20’s, it had gotten so bad that he was in and out of jails, institutions, halfway houses and he ended up homeless, and living on the streets.
He was failing at everything, his entire life was a mess and after all he’d been through, he had every reason to hate the world.
But he finally realized if he didn’t change, he was going to die.
How The Dots Joined Up For Rob
This is when he developed a simple mindset shift that changed everything.
He realized that for a long time it was his mindset that had been the biggest problem he faced.
In that one moment, he changed his very identity, and what happened next was incredible.
And that is where we will begin today’s episode, and this is going to be a great one, as today’s guy has since seen incredible success, and is literally changing the world everyday.
So does he see that the things he spends his days doing were always in him, or was it because of his history that he found the skills that he loves sharing?
And does he feel that the mindset people have is the number one reason why so many keep themselves small?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr Rob Scott.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Rob Scott such as:
Why hitting rock bottom in your life can quite often be classed as a huge gift in your life.
The madness of the human race and why we are fixed on fighting against ourselves instead of making the world as perfect as we can.
Why Rob loves treating life as a game to allow the mistakes to happen and the creativity to flood in.
How to find the purpose within the passion. How to develop a life that lights you up but also makes you feel good everyday too.
Why suffering is a choice that we make, whereby pain is something we have to endure. It’s your choice which one you embrace.
How To Connect With Rob Scott
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Audio Transcription Of Rob Scott Interview
David Ralph [0:00]
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When we’re young we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be but somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [1:39]
Hello there everybody yes David Ralph join up dots it’s funny when I start recording, I never know the first thing that I’m going to say until that intro kicks in. And sometimes I feel like bursting into song. And so I might do it one day, I might give you a big burst of the I don’t know, the the classic Duran Duran song or whatever’s going through my mind. And maybe I can get today’s guest getting with me, I’m going to ask him later to see if he’s up for the challenge because he is a man. But the mindset is amazing. And he so positive on a daily basis, which is testament to him because his journey has been well, it’s been a terrible journey really to get to where he is today, at least in my perspective, it looks that way. But perhaps in classic join up dots fashion, perhaps it was all these things that were needed to be experienced to make him who he is. Now, as he says, In his own words, as a small boy, I’ve been violently and repeatedly raped from the age of three to around eight years old, which left me feeling completely empty. so full of shame, it was incredibly difficult for me to feel safe or trust anybody at all. In fact, to deal with this trauma, my brain almost split into multiple personalities so that I could detach and protect myself when I was being seriously abused. Now, as you might imagine, I turned to drugs and alcohol to master pain, join drugs as early as seven years old by his late teens and early 20s. It’s gotten so bad, but he was in and out of jails, instinct halfway houses, and he ended up homeless and living on the streets. He was failing at everything, his entire life was a mess. And after already been through, he had every reason to hate the world. But he finally realized if he didn’t change, he was going to die. And this is when he developed a simple mindset shift. That changed everything. He realized that for a long time, it was his mindset that had been the biggest problem he faced. And in that one moment, he changed his very identity. And what happened next was incredible. Now, that is where we will begin today’s episode. And this is going to be a great one as today’s go, as since seen incredible success, and he’s literally changing the world every day. So does he see that the things he spends his days doing? Were always in him? Or was it because of his history that he found the skills that he now loves sharing? And does he feel that the mindset people have is the number one reason why so many keep themselves small? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start join up dots with the one and only Mr. Rob Scott, how are you?
Rob Scott [4:01]
David, I’m fantastic. I’m sitting here going wow, that’s, that’s quite the intro. And I appreciate you doing that. And by the way, I’m completely open to doing a duet with you. So whenever you’re ready, we can we can bang one of those out, I appreciate that.
David Ralph [4:13]
I’ve started getting some of the guests to sing. And I kind of what I do I do a kind of grooming through the show, where they say, I’m not going to do it, I’m not going to do it. And by the end, they get fed up with me asking, so what some would you do if we were going to do it together? Rob Scott,
Rob Scott [4:28]
I don’t if you start anything, I’ll jump in with you. I have no idea what we should do. But you know, I love to sing, I love to dance. And we can we can definitely have some fun with that.
David Ralph [4:38]
We’re go there with it, put a little X factor into the show. So you are somebody as you say, you love to dance, you love to sing, you’ve got a great spirit. As soon as I connected with you tonight, I could feel it coming off you. And that’s one of the reasons why I did the introduction to get your story out little way because I don’t want to dwell on Batman, but that’s in your house. But he would be willing to just go straight past it. So it was horrific, wasn’t it? It was a horrific upbringing. But do you think that it has made you who you are?
Rob Scott [5:10]
You know, to a great degree, I think it’s it’s certainly played just an enormous part. And I wonder how much of this desire to help people was there all along? It’s you know, you can’t really I don’t think you can tell I think everything is nature and nurture, I think they’re both involved in it. It’s so funny that you went through all that, because part of the process of doing the show with you is you let me know a little bit about the show. And part of what you said was, you know, hey, we want to keep this really positive. And let’s not go too deep. And you know, you’re diving right into some of the right at the top of the show some of the really abusive stuff that I went through. I think that we have a bias as human beings to kind of love everything that happened to us, because it resolves all the problems and we go, Well, I wouldn’t be myself if that hadn’t happened. You know, could I get my head around wishing some of that hadn’t happened. And I’d had different roads, I could spend a lot of time thinking like that. But the reality is, I do love my life today, I know that one of the things you like to share on your show is like where am I today? And, you know, I don’t know that I have a five sentence answer to that. Because there’s so much that’s fantastic going on, I’m madly in love, I’ve got this business that I’m so full of my passions and my purpose. And it’s it’s making me a lot of money. And I every day I get to be doing what I love doing which is helping people get out of this, you know, delusion, which you touched on it in when you were describing my story, there was this moment where I really woke up to the fact that I was carrying all these really not useful stories, really not useful mindsets that if anybody had heard me, they would have completely understood why I carried them. But it was like, you know, the world is tough. I’m a victim. So hard listen to what I’ve been through. And through that I kept creating this life of struggle. And what really occurred to me, you know, kind of in a flash was all of that is edited. And if I edit it, what what happens if I drop some of that and just really don’t allow it to remain? And I decided to create a new story for myself, like, what does that look like? Not a delusional story, not a big lie, none of that. But what if I just optimize and make useful my thinking, and what happened from there just to give you a, you know, a short story, within just a few years, I went from homeless to being attempt in the basement of a company to growing into vice president technology having built and sold off a very large software product and and then ultimately helping that company sell itself for, you know, a large exit and, and and just doing very well for myself. And that was kind of like before I even really felt like I began doing the really important things that I’m that I’m up to now. So I guess what I want to impress upon the listeners is that there’s, it’s possible that you can have a really, really deep fundamental shift that changes your fulfillment, what your results are. And it has everything to do with mastering kind of the meat making that’s going on between your ears, most of us are carrying around limits that we’re unaware of, we don’t see them. And we we make them true when they’re not true. And it’s it’s really like almost the core human delusion that most of us are carrying.
David Ralph [8:14]
Now I can buy into what you’re saying totally. And I can buy into the fact that you had to do something about it. Otherwise, quite frankly, you years ago now. So I can see that. Now, through join up dots I’ve spoken to hundreds and hundreds of people. And it seems a truth to me that the people who hit rock bottom, and then go deeper, although the ones that seem to come back bigger, it’s almost like they’re a seed and they plant themselves really deep into the ground, to give themselves the strength to then come up as a sort of as a plant or whatever to sort of come through. But it also seems a true for the people that don’t really have anything bad in their life, and don’t really have anything good in their life don’t have that mindset shift to sort of rally the troops and get going, do you see that in your own sort of coaching career and you in your own life, you almost have to hit bottom to Bane go right? No more, no more, I’m going to go for it.
Rob Scott [9:10]
It’s I think it’s a really bright thing that you’re pointing out, it’s a really important nuance to think about. It’s I almost call it the gift of trauma. So before I get into this really, really deeply, I want to share that I don’t think you have to have trauma to do profound things. I think that if you do have trauma or pain or some kind of bottom, that when you hit that it can be a huge gift to you. Because what happens is you become deeply motivated to change it. And you become committed to a new way of being in a profound way. Those of us that have have some you know, quote unquote, comfort zone, that may not even be that comfortable, really, it might have a lot of depression in it, or mild anxiety or whatever, but we just get used to it, if it’s never bad enough to really need to change, we kind of just indoor we’re very good at habituated that and kind of staying in it. And so, you know, trauma or pain or failure, or you know, going bankrupt in your business, those can be huge gifs, they certainly don’t feel like it in the moment. But when you really back up and see what they inspire and what they create in somebody, they can be huge. So anybody out there who’s been through a lot or has had stuff, there’s a way to change the meaning of that for yourself. so that it can be inspirational, it can be helpful, all that I often use the analogy of addiction, you know, somebody who’s, it’s funny, there’s a core problem and addiction, and I think a lot of people in life can find there may be a core problem in their own situation. But you know, for an alcoholic, they might have tons of problems, right, they’re going to lose their license, they’re going to maybe lose their partner, they might lose their kids, right, there’s all kinds of problems in every direction. But for them in their delusion, the solution is to go get relief at the bar, right, and they keep going and drinking because that’s the only thing that in the moment is making them feel good. But what they don’t realize it’s it’s like whack a mole, they could try to fix all those other problems. But if they don’t fix the core problem of their drinking, you know, none of those things are going to long term really be solved, right? If they’ve really got a problem with drinking. But if they do change the drinking that core problem, all the other problems start to get better kind of on their own. Right, it’s like there’s really this core problem going on there? Well, the process of getting somebody to get out of the delusion of addiction, and on the right path of recovery has to do with this moment of clarity, they’ve got to actually wake up. And usually that’s by hitting bottom quote unquote, right, it’s so painful to them, it’s so overwhelming that they wake up to Oh, my God, this part has to change, this is no longer acceptable, it can’t work anymore. And once that happens for somebody, they will then commit and pay in time, energy, money attention, in all these ways to go through a whole lot of pain to make it better, they will stay committed to something that in the moment may not be easy, right? The path of recovery for somebody may not be easy, but they’ll stay and do it. So the analogy there is for somebody who really wants to be an entrepreneur, but they’re staying at work, let’s say, right, if that never gets painful enough, they may never have the courage to move away from that paycheck every week. But if that becomes soul deadening enough, they can actually do it. They have this moment of clarity and they go, No, I’ve got to do this, I’ve gotta grab at this, I’ve got to go for it. When they decide to go for it. They’re willing to go through what it takes to learn to be an entrepreneur, to grow to do all those things, maybe make less money for a little while, whatever that is. And those that can go through that and have the resolve who’ve had a moment of clarity in their life of what’s really important what they need to do. They can make it all the way through and they’re the successes that we end up seeing
David Ralph [12:30]
the world. Well, I love when I’m hearing you talk is obviously the passion that comes out. I do a lot of coaching, teaching people how to create a successful podcast. And one of the things that I say to them is, yeah, think about your avatar, think about the audience you’re projecting, but also think deeply about yourself, will you ever get fed up with the subject? And I can hear in your voice? You love this? Don’t you? You get anybody in front of you who asks a question and you are on a Whoa, does that mean that you have really found your authentic self is this something that you can see yourself doing for the next 30, 4050 years,
Rob Scott [13:09]
there’s, there’s no part in me that has any desire to ever retire, this is something that I would do for free. This is something I do with friends for fun, I’m constantly trying to hack the human brain and human suffering, um, what I woke up to in some of the stuff that I went through, when I really kind of opened my mind, you know, I saw that we’re really only fighting ourselves, you know, not only individually literally fighting ourselves, but amongst humans, we’re just fighting ourselves, like, there’s nobody else here that’s kind of messing with us. And I really had this very clear connection to the possibility of a much more utopian world. It’s like, wow, if we really figured out our belief systems, if we really figured out our meaning making and how we kind of talked to ourselves and talk to others and all that we could have a really abundant, amazing world. And to a great degree, we do have an abundant, amazing world. But I think if any of us look around and judge this situation, there’s a whole lot of optimizing, that we’re in the process of doing and that we can continue to do. I’m a huge stand for literally ending suffering on planet Earth, I think that we can have a much higher level of contribution and connection and, you know, spiritual connection and happiness and fulfillment and success. And I’m, you know, I’m a living example of somebody who went from massive dysfunction to much higher level of success and ability and fulfillment. And, you know, I just try to create that and as many people as I can, and through working with tons of clients, through trying to make all my marketing material be really useful in and of itself, whether somebody hires me or not, these kinds of shows, I want to be a stand for people understanding that their core problem, you know, that they need to overcome might be themselves, it might be their own identity, it might be the story that they’re saying to themselves, and they don’t even realize that they’re doing and the absolutely in, I want to do that till the day I die. It’s I’m completely and I’ve found what I’m here to do.
David Ralph [15:00]
Well, I think I found what I’m here to do as well. And I think once you do that, you never lose the energy for the task, and you never lose the ability to keep on pushing a little bit. So where some people say, Oh, it’s going so well, you must be really pleased. You kind of go, yeah, I’m kind of. And it’s funny talking about the sort of split personalities. I don’t know about you, but I find doing this because it’s so me, but I have a split personality of somebody who’s really engaged and the other person that’s never quite happy with the final product, always trying to just push on a bit further, or just doing a better interview or just putting more energy into the introduction. Do you find that with yourself with the work, although you are delivering, you’re gaining a nice income? Because it comes from the heart? There’s always a bit of you that things are God, I just missed a trick there.
Rob Scott [15:56]
You know, I don’t I think I don’t experience the frustration is much, but the drive is there. So I don’t know, if I just kind of code that a little, like, just it’s right, exactly what you’re describing, but maybe a little bit off. Because, you know, instead of looking at like what’s not there, I see a ton of opportunities, right? So, you know, right now I could complain about how I don’t have the staff that I need. I’ve got so many things going on. And what if we could do another launch it you know, I can get into that mindset. And and that certainly right there if I want it to be, but instead what i what i find and this has been a this has been something that’s happening more and more, almost To me, it’s not because I’m cool. It’s not because I’m doing a move. It’s just something I’m noticing, where I just, you know, I get so excited about what I continue to get to grow into. So almost rather than a frustration about what’s not going right, it’s it’s when I see those things that aren’t going right, they get coded as almost like an opportunity for what I can optimize. And don’t get me wrong, I’ve got my moments where I’m like, how did that happen? Like, or that guy let me down, or this promise was made and the guy didn’t show up, or this didn’t happen? You know, so I’m certainly human, I’ve got the whole spectrum of emotions and all that. But more and more and more, there’s this underneath, almost sense of fulfillment, that’s, that’s pretty standard, whether I’m angry in the moment or sad in the moment or whatever, I’m, I definitely have one foot in this almost. It’s like a perpetual gratitude. It’s like, this whole thing is a big game. And it’s going really well. And it’s really fun. And for the game to even be valuable. It’s got to have some times where you lose a player or you know, you hear the bad, you know, whoo sound because it didn’t go great that day. But, but playing the game is still really fun. I’m having so much fun doing it. And if it’s not I changed the game, you know, I move it around I I decided, Hey, I’m not going to do that line of business. I’m going to do this because it’s more meaningful. Yeah, it’s that that’s, that’s where I’m at lately. It’s been fantastic.
David Ralph [17:51]
I love the fact that you called it a game because through the show join up dots we talk a lot about finding the thing that you love doing when you most of the time when you’re a kid, you play games, and you you do Lego or you you make treehouses. And that’s the kind of human essence that we lose when we’re adults. And we go into jobs that look good, or have responsibility or have killed us or whatever. So the fact that you are to quote Steve Jobs that we’re going to hear later, staying young and foolish, really allows that creativity of playing to come to the fore and allowing the mistakes to happen. And hey, why don’t we just start over again, rub it out and go, just like we do as kids. But as adults, we try to make it more defined somehow don’t leave, everything has to have the right step. But that’s not how life is.
Rob Scott [18:41]
Let me let me take that even further. I have I have, I guess I call it teaching or something. It’s this idea. And you know, I don’t know, if I got this anywhere, I’m not, you know, I like to I do so much reading and I do stuff and I really try to attribute other people want them taking their ideas and stuff. It’s totally possible that I heard this somewhere. But but the just feels true to me. And I’d love your listeners to see if this feels true. And this might be a little weird. But you know, to me, everything is a game, you know that that somehow in the background, there’s this, there’s this immediate relationship with the universe that’s happening, I have some feeling I can smell something, I can do whatever. But everything on top of that immediate experience becomes an interpretation of mine, it’s and it’s some level of game. And most humans are taking everything so seriously, like, their job really matters or their business really matters. And, and and we build up these assumptions of how important those are that you know, in a Buddhist framework that would be attachment. Like we’re so attached to a certain outcome, and it has to happen that way. We build up all this stress and worry about it and all that stuff. But I think a better metaphor is what we’re talking about. It’s a game. And so if you think about the game of let’s say basketball, right? You know, somebody can take basketball too seriously. You know, basketball is their whole life. It’s all they play. If they if you know once they can’t play anymore, because they get too old there too, Preston sad about it. Like, you know, that’s probably taking a game too seriously. So I’m going to invite everybody to not take the games too seriously. But there’s another side of that if I don’t take the game seriously at all, like you and I go out to play and I’m elbowing you in the face and I’m double dribbling and I’m stepping out of bounds and I don’t care, then the game has no value. Right? Then it’s like, well, we’re not even really playing like I don’t know what we’re doing here. And there’s nothing to master there. Right? But if you take the game just right, if you take it seriously, you care about it, you want to play, now you have something that’s valuable to you, and you can actually get better at it right? It’s something that over time, you might foster like, wow, I’m really getting better at this. And there’s value to that right? Well, everything in our life from the person that we’re in relationship to even our kids to our life itself, because that’s a temporary thing. It’s all just a bunch of games. And you know, when you think about it that way, I can’t play every game well, right. So I’ve got to learn this muscle of saying no to things that are too much, because there’s a part of us that wants to be able to do everything. And yes, and yes, and yes. And if you find you do that, you can’t really win any of the games, because you’re taking too many of them seriously, if as you grow up as an adult, if you pick the handful of games, that really really mean something to you that you really would like to master that you’d like to work on. And you’re okay at being a beginner at them when you’re a beginner at them. If you can take them a proper amount seriously, don’t take them too seriously. But take them seriously enough to that they matter to you. That’s the way that you can do stuff. And that’s how I look at my you know, my relationship with this woman who are more in love with than anything I’ve ever thought of. That’s how I take, you know my business, that’s how I take it, you know, she’s got a son. So I have a stepson in my life now. And that’s, that’s a relationship that I’m taking really seriously. But at the same time, if any of them start to like fall apart in some big way, I have in the back of my head this this real truth voice that goes, you know, man, it’s, it’s, it’s just a game, it’s okay. Like if you lose it that you get to redefine the game or pick another game to play. And so that gives me this incredible freedom. And it gives me what I think is the right size of attention to what I care about my life and how I’m showing up for it. Does that mean sense? It makes total sense.
David Ralph [22:01]
I’m going to play some words now. And then we’re going to delve a little bit more into that because I’m going to put a different spin on to it. But I think it’s going to tie together very well. Mr Jim Carrey
Jim Carrey [22:11]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. So he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [22:37]
Well, I’ve been playing that speech for probably 300 episodes now. And after just listening to your you’re very passionate speech just beforehand, it made me realize that what Jim Carrey is talking about is not finding the thing that you love and doing it is actually finding your 20% the 8020 principle fine with 20% that you can do really, really well, that allows the 80% of enjoyment to come your way, which is totally different from how life operates. And that’s what you’re doing very well, isn’t it, you’re looking for that 20% of things that you can do really well, instead of playing every single game, just finding that stuff, which allows breathing space, and play space into your life
Rob Scott [23:24]
at 100%. And I gotta share, you know, listening to that Jim Carrey speech, that segment of it, it just gives me chills. I mean, he’s right on, you know, there’s this work, here’s the deal, this isn’t dress rehearsal, right? You’re not a lot of the human mind is in a pattern of, I think I’m, you know, if I just get this right, then my life will begin. Or if if my business just gets to this level, then we’ll be safe. Or you know, if we just get that new house, then we’ll be happy. And that’s all this illusion of a treadmill of time, there is no there, we never get there. If we don’t master here, if we don’t master doing things that we care about, understanding that, that this life right in front of you, right in this moment, raise your hearing these words out of my mouth. That’s the essence of your life. And you have to figure that out. Because if we get in this future based mind, or we’re deciding to play games that we don’t really want to play because our parents told us to or wife made us or whatever, right? We end up kind of giving up the essence of the reality of our life, which is this moment. And so it’s so powerful to figure out what matters most to you like, what do you really want? How do you want to contribute? How do you want to go make money in the world? How do you want to do these things and care about that enough, have enough self love, and enough agency for yourself to go, that’s important, I’m going to I’m going to focus on that, and I’m going to work on it. And I don’t care what it looks like at the beginning, right, I’m never going to get good at basketball. If I have to dribble perfectly. When I start, I’ve got to go out there and learn. And it’s going to take some time, and it’s going to take, you know what I call stage growth, right? You have to grow through this stages of beginner intermediate expert. But if you found early enough, what you care about, which early enough is always now, right, if you found what you care about, and you decide to give it time and attention. You know, that’s how you’re going to win. Because you win before you even become quote unquote successful because you found the thing you’re passionate about. And there’s a ton of winning just in the learning just in the committing into something that really matters to you. So you know, a lot of this is a part of growing up, I’m not saying that every 25 year old is going to exactly know what their whole life’s about. A lot of that’s trying from games, right? It’s like, is this for me? Is this for me? What do I care about? And then but as you find them have the self love to go, this matters. And I’m going to do it no matter what my parents say, no matter what my friends say like this is I can tell this lights me up. And here’s where I want to do it. And one of the things that we know is that our purpose is is really about being of service to something bigger than yourself. So a lot of the people that are just trying to make money and just doing that, I mean, money is an important game, and we want to win at it, no doubt. But they find that even when they want it that there’s not always a whole lot of fulfillment on the other side, if it’s not something that they’re passionate about and find a lot of purpose. And so, you know, you got to tie the profit to the passion and the purpose. And when you do that all together, there’s something really magical that happens for people,
David Ralph [26:15]
I kind of disagree with you in one regard. I think now, every single 25 year old out there, if they listened to their own heart, their own body, and woke up to the fact that now, there are so many opportunities via the web and the Internet to create something that you couldn’t have done 20 years ago. You know, if I think of my past generations, I think Yeah, they had to go on a path because that was all that was fearful. And the entrepreneurial world was for people opening factories and work houses and and that sort of the lord of the manor. Nowadays, I think every single person can listen to themselves. Think closely of what I would fancy doing. ben stein looking around at what other people are doing in that area and start ups getting themselves I think we’ve got such possibilities now, but every single person can do, but they don’t. That’s the difference. They don’t take that responsibility.
Rob Scott [27:12]
What do you think about that point of view, I completely agree. And really all I meant it wasn’t an age thing. It was that there’s a process of turning into an adult. And some people can do that quickly. And certainly for me, that took longer, right. And we all have our own road with that. And I think the the maturity and the self love that’s required of an adult at whatever age, right? It doesn’t matter the age, I just mean kind of the mental fortitude of being real grounded in who you are, knowing what you love having the passion and commitment and ability to kind of commit into that, you know, there’s cultures in our world where they don’t have the same kind of freedoms that we enjoy. And, and so there’s a lot of other kind of qualities to this. But I think that when you’re younger, whether that’s 25 or 15, or whatever it is, there’s definitely a time when you’re still trying to find out what you care about what your talents are, what’s going on, and that that’s okay, too, right? But the but the process of becoming an adult is about really finding what matters to you and committing into it. And then beginning that journey of mastery,
David Ralph [28:13]
as difficult as a parent now, because I’ve got a 13 year old boy coming up boating, and he’s obsessed with FIFA 16. And he’s in there, and he’s playing football all the time. That’s all he does. And you know, 10 years ago, I could have said, as a parent, why turn that off? That’s not going to lead to anything. But now he’s quite open to throw it back to me go, Ah, I know, YouTube was earning 5 million a year, which is a valid point of view. And so literally anything that people like doing now, it seems that there’s an ability to create money, you know, the fact that my daughter as well, she’s obsessed with watching people play Minecraft. Now, she doesn’t even play Minecraft herself. But she’s on there every day watching other people who have created their livelihood. Now, how about you done it? Number one, they’ve done exactly the same as you, they’ve made a decision. Secondly, they put themselves out there. Thirdly, they’re consistent and forth. They’re allowing the world to actually knock them down, you know, and by going every day, they’re turning up and releasing another video. So do you think to yourself, your success has been built around your history? Is it persistence? Is it but you you are basically turning up your consistent? or What was your that the kernel of your success come from?
Rob Scott [29:33]
I think the answer to that is yes. Right. So it’s I think it’s all of those to a great degree. But let me make a really important distinction because watching Minecraft or you know, playing, let’s say playing Minecraft and making money or playing the FIFA, you know, whatever. there’s a there’s a huge distinction between passion and purpose. And there’s a guy named Dr. Martin Seligman, he’s out of university of Penn and Philadelphia. And he’s one of the, you know, I guess, pioneers of positive psychology. And what’s really interesting about that is most of psychology, the hundred years of psychological work has really been around taking people who are deficient and bringing them to normal, right? So it’s trying to take a depression or, you know, some form of crazy and make them normal. But it’s only been very recently that we’ve said, Wait a second, how do you take a normal psyche? And make it optimal? Like, what does that look like? And so what we found and through through Dr. Martin Solomon’s work, they found that there are these key issues that really changed the game in happiness and success and all these things. And, and two of them are passion and purpose. And what you were just talking about, like your son and daughter may have passions for certain things, right? certain games online, or, you know, your passion could be basket weaving, it could be breeding puppies, it could be whatever your passion is where we find flow. And there’s tons of new books out about flow states, and all this stuff, right. Passion is what you’re personally interested in. Its it holds your attention, because it’s a certain level of complexity. And you find that it’s fun to get better at it. And whatever that is, right? passion definitely has a marker in making people happier, no doubt. But purpose is a different thing. And it’s a bigger thing. And so when you just said like, well, Dad, I can make this much money at, you know, x game. Well, that’s great. That might be your passion now, and you can make profit at that. And that’s fantastic. But what’s missing, there is a purpose component, potentially, and what purpose is and how it differs. And here’s the problem. There’s so many people online that are teaching passion as purpose, like, just find your passion, and that’ll be your purpose in life and all that. But they’re very different things. Purpose is about being of service to something that’s bigger than yourself. It’s finding meaning in forwarding a cause, or you know bettering a situation or teaching people something that matters to you. And when you say, what’s the one thing that I’ve found, that’s it, I’m so connected to a purpose, I’m literally here to change consciousness on planet Earth, I want to take people and show them suffering is optional. Pain is not. But suffering is a choice, right? We can have a very different relationship to our own suffering. And, and so when you connected with purpose, again, Martin Seligman, his work shows that that’s the biggest game changer, when somebody finds that they become motivated to get up and go do stuff, you will go through a ton of pain to to be expressing your purpose when you know it. But for most people, even people that are very wealthy, even people that do passionate things, there’s a part of them that’s kind of empty, because they haven’t found their purpose. They don’t know what they’re here to do. That’s of service to the collective. I could geek out about other other, you know, psychologists and Freud versus Laszlo and these, these different ideas. But I want to I want to take a pause and just bounce that back to you. Does that make sense? As far as like, what when we really find our purpose, there’s something that switches over and is profound.
David Ralph [32:53]
It makes total sense. But I’m going to bat it back at you. This is like a tennis match. Yeah, I find that people do exactly as you’re saying on the passion to make money. But they get to a certain point. And they they’re in a lovely house, and they’ve got a lovely wife and a lovely car. And literally every single person that I have spoken to who is a real high achiever and doing some amazing stuff, starts to turn their focus on to the world and that they become conscious. I’ve got a buddy through this show that I’ve connected with called JV crumb, the third, and he’s a millionaire in Florida did very well, in the whole each business created this great company got to 25 could basically retire women for I’m a bit bored. And now he is more driven than I’ve ever seen him to give back. And he’s trying to create a world of conscious teenage entrepreneurs who are willing to create their own economy and start this movement. So I do take exactly what you’re saying, but I don’t really go with or I don’t grasp whether it’s right at the beginning, or it just has to be somewhere wherever along the journey. Is it okay to earn your money and bingo, there must be more to life than this David
Rob Scott [34:06]
it’s all okay. You know, everybody’s path is their path. And it’s fantastic. I think that if you could shortcut that, and actually get to what’s deeply meaningful you earlier, that might be optimal, if what I like to do with people, and what one of my programs is very specifically based around is helping people align their passion, their purpose and their profit. So that so that none of those have to be left behind. And you can you can get started on that right away, right? This is really a difference between Freudian psychology and Maslow psychology. And I think this is a really interesting point, I don’t want to get too geeky on everybody. But you know, for 100 and some years now, we’ve been forwarding these kind of basal emotions that are very Freud in right. If you think Freud and I’m dumbing this way down, this is not even accurate. But I think it makes a good point. If you think of Freud, there’s a lot of like, sexual drive and fear based drive and fighter flight and all this stuff. And people may or may not know that someone related to for a member Bernays ended up being a big person in the in the marketing end of things here in America, and certainly globally. And we went from, you know, having like two pieces of clothing, to marketing, to people’s needs of, hey, you’re not pretty enough, you don’t have enough clothes, you got to keep up with the Joneses, you better get a better car. And it’s really spawned these huge industries and a spin out of all this money stuff. And what’s really going on there is we’re beating up on these lower level emotions of humans. And if those are not met, right, if those what I’ll call Freud and based emotions are not met, we do feel really uncomfortable. So what solves a lot of those is money and success, right? If we if we can buy the house and the car, and we can have enough to be attractive to a mate, and we can have an emotional relationship, right? That seems like it’s going to solve that story. What was really interesting is when Maslow came around, he gave us this hierarchy of needs. And what he points out is that if those base needs become met, like with your friend, right, if money gets solved, if safety and security are okay, if emotional relationships are okay? what emerges at the top of that very universally, is this kind of drive for self actualization, right, that now what I find, and I’m glad that all your friends find that there’s this conscious shift that happens, but I’m surrounded by a ton of entrepreneurs that are wildly successful, they’re very, very unhappy, and they’re caught in this belief that more money is going to solve it. And they’ve already got plenty of money, right? And that’s, that’s not solving the problem. It’s because there’s this different thing, this purpose, move this self actualization, how do I contribute? How do I get to a place where I’m giving and sharing love and solving problems and helping the world in some way? Right, that through Maslow’s work, we know that’s a universal thing. But it can’t really express until we master those bottom things, right? If If I don’t feel safe, if I don’t have a home, those things kind of need to get handled first. So to your point, there may be an order to these of course, right, we’ve got to handle safety, safety, all these things. But to your point, also, with the abundance of the world and what we can do online and all this, I think at a much earlier age, we can be trying to solve the whole pyramid, right, we can be doing this much more holistically, and not spend 1015 years patterning these belief systems of, I’ve just got to get the money, I’ve just got to get there because that actually grooves a pattern into the brain of, quote, unquote, I’m not there yet. Right? If I just get that money, if I just have the success, then I’ll be there. Now for many people, when they do get quote, unquote, there, and there’s enough money and all that they find, maybe some depression or some and we are some, hey, this isn’t enough for me. And that’s when they do have an epiphany and they find purpose. And they do that. What I’m suggesting is all of that can come much sooner if we become aware of the whole path.
David Ralph [37:44]
I agree that I say here, here to you, sir, in every shape and form on that. Now one of the things that you were saying that I found very interesting that you were surrounded by or you are surrounded by entrepreneurs, and most of them are sort of I’m happy in some regard. Now, if I just take you back into the introduction, I was looking at it as you were talking. And when you was in and out of jails, obviously, you’re going to be surrounded by people that more often than not are blaming the system or blaming each other, or I shouldn’t be in there. How did you actually change your mindset in that environment? Because we are the average of the five as I say, and if you’re surrounded by that kind of institution? How did you make sure that it didn’t bring you down and you become one of them?
Rob Scott [38:29]
You know, I don’t know that i and i don’t know that i was consciously doing anything at the time until it kind of happened to me, it was almost like my brain broke. I was working on the problems. So I think Remember, I said nature and nurture are involved. I’ve always been somebody who was deeply interested in the question of kind of why am I here? Right? It always seemed odd. Everyone else was just kind of accepting it. And literally still, every day I get up and I find it odd that I have 10 fingers and 10 toes. I’m like, Why this? Why here? What’s going on? I’ve constantly had this, like deep debate in my own mind of like, what, what, what is all this right? It’s very, it’s still full of wonder to me in a huge way. But yeah, specifically about being in jail. You know, I might have been a little different than a lot of the other people in jail, because I don’t know, if they were kind of having that same kind of dialogue of like, why are we here, and a lot of my dysfunction was based around trying to push push edges with drugs and do things and, and a lot of my drug use was, you know, certainly consciously trying to feel better. But also it was, you know, what if I, what if I push this edge like Jim Morrison, and really just try to get all the way out in consciousness? And is there an answer there? You know, I was, I was sort of on a search. But I’ll give you I’ll give you a moment. That was an awakening. For me, that wasn’t a big profound awakening, but it was a big deal. I was in jail. And I’m waiting to go into a kind of a common area where it’s, it’s going to be more dangerous. I’m going to sell by myself. And I’m surrounded by other big mean dudes, right? Really, really bad guys from Inner City, Philadelphia. And one of the guys down the hall is tearing into the guard, like tearing into him. And I won’t say the words, but just imagine the worst your mama jokes. You know, just like really tearing into him because it was almost like he’s behind bars, like, what are you going to do to me now? So he’s just like, you know, you so ugly, your mama this, you know, all that kind of stuff. And I start at along with others, like, hysterically laughing. In fact, the guard himself started to laugh at it, right? It just was. So this guy was huge. And he was me and and all that. And he’s just almost doing a comedy roast of this guy. And, and I’m sitting there and I start to have this real sincere joy and laughter like pouring over me. Now, I don’t want to go into all I mean, I’m happy to but it’s too long to go into all the details of how bad my life was then. But it was pretty much as bottom as you can get like it was it you know, it was it was drug addiction. It was homelessness, it was in jail at the moment, it was like no prospects for figuring out life at all in that moment. And I’m sitting there and I’m deeply enjoy. I’m like, laughing, you know, my ass off, really. And what was woke up for me in that moment was I go, Wow, like, you can take everything from me. But you can’t take my state, right? You can’t take how I feel about a moment. That’s mine. And in this moment, this guy’s gifting me some laughter. But that’s mine, I get to manage that. Right? So when you say like, how did how did I figured out in those moments? How did I not listen to other people, I had some agency, this this word I keep using I had some self love where I started to go, I get to choose, right? This is mine. I don’t care what they say. In fact, I don’t even care sometimes when my own brain is telling me there’s a more optimal way to think here. And that’s ultimately what I woke up into. And that’s now what I teach people. And when I do that, I actually help people shift their very identity, I help them take, you know, an identity that’s been created unconsciously, by fears and by the time they were embarrassed in eighth grade, and by the time that person broke up with them, or cheated on them, or whatever, and has shut down what’s possible for them so that they can remain safe. And I show them how consciously they can edit what’s going on subconsciously, for themselves, and, and come out the other side, deeply transformed.
David Ralph [42:06]
So at that moment, obviously, you’re laughing and you make the decision, you make a choice. But yeah, that that that essence that that feeling that you were having was yours, and you could control it. Now, obviously, your life is dramatically different. Do you still make those choices? Or do you trust in the process? Do you have more faith that things are going to go your way?
Rob Scott [42:29]
I think it’s easier now. Because life is nicer to me now. Because I’ve made choices that were empowered for long enough, right. So if I just tried that choice technique with my own thinking, which is a core component of what I share with people, that’s I teach people how to do that consciously. You know, it, your life doesn’t magically get better. In that moment, you’ve got a long history of decisions and problems to handle if you’re in that situation I was in. So I needed to decide and see moment by moment, the that was a better way to run my brain. And when I when I consistently made that and it’s funny, because I’ve tested it every time I’ve done it, it’s always helped. It’s never not helped. It’s not something that’s, you know, not trusted. And what happens is, is that it becomes more ingrained, and it starts to get accepted by your subconscious. And your your mind just starts making better choices on its own. But similar to it being nature and nurture, I think it’s both what happens unconsciously, unconsciously, right? You have this ability to consciously change your focus and your attention and your meaning making in any moment. And when you do that long enough, your subconscious starts to normalize and be happier with your choices. And it starts to believe different things about what’s possible for you. So so many people right now, it you know, they want to be millionaires, but they have 100, they have 100,000 mindset, right? They believe that they can make $100,000 a year, but they’re deeply desiring to be a millionaire, right? Well, a millionaire thinks differently. A Millionaire believes that they can be a millionaire, they in fact, if they’re not, it’s weird. They’re like, what’s going on? You’re like, something’s happening when something’s wrong, right? So there’s this, there’s this distinguishing between what you are now and what you’re aspiring to be. A way that I illustrate that sometimes is that everything in your life that requires willpower is not who you are yet, right? Because the things that don’t require willpower, or what you already are, and the example that I often use it that are people who are trying to get new year’s resolution or whatever to become a runner, quote, unquote, almost everybody tries to do that through willpower and habit, and almost everybody fails at it, right? But the people that succeed, why did they succeed, something happened along the way, they did it long enough that their subconscious switched over. And they literally, they don’t have to get up and go, Oh, I gotta force myself and use my will to go run, they just wake up and they go, I’m a runner, that’s what I do. I go three times a week, and you know, boom, the shoes Go on, and they go out, because now they are a runner, there’s been an identity shift in how they make their meaning about who they are and what’s going on. And that happens on a subconscious level for them. Right. But the people that are wanting to they’re trying to become entrepreneurs, there’s a part in them that they don’t believe they’re an entrepreneur yet, right? Well, if because an entrepreneur actually makes sales calls an entrepreneur really has a business plan, an entrepreneur really hires people and outsources or whatever, right. But those were entrepreneurs are still trying to use willpower, maybe I’ll force myself to do these sales calls. It’ll happen if you keep forcing yourself over time. It’s just an incredibly slow process. And so many people fail, just like trying to become a runner. Right? There’s a way that we can go in and edit how we make the meaning and how our subconscious makes our self concept in the moment. And you can change that so that you can actually become entrepreneur right now you can become athlete right now you can go from big, fat loser, to I’m an athlete, and even if you’re still hugely overweight, if you actually consider yourself an athlete in the moment, all the behaviors that you want, or underneath that, that person goes running, they eat differently, they feed their body, they put vitamins, and they have running shoes, they actually go running, you know, that’s what an athlete does. And it requires that shift. Most coaches are helping people do that through willpower and slow process and you know, all this other stuff I go in, and I change people’s brains so that they can do that now. And this this is the core of that is mastery over your own meaning making.
David Ralph [46:17]
Once again, I totally buy into that as well, I remember I must have released 200 250 shows. And if anybody asked me what I did for a living, I’d almost blush. Yeah, I didn’t I didn’t feel comfortable with it. And then I must have got to about 400 shows, you know, not that long ago, funnily enough. And I was in the shower One morning, and I felt podcaster. And that was it. It just seems. And when I said it, it was almost like, yeah, hang on, I hadn’t quite grasped that I was, I kind of felt that I’d play the role. I was faking it till I made it, you know, but yeah, when I bang podcaster after that, everything kind of has become easier. guests come to me, the money’s coming to me, all the things that I was struggling with. And I look back on it now. And I think it was because somehow I was holding back the tide, I was pushing it back, because I didn’t quite believe that I should justify what a podcaster gets. And now I’ve got my hands behind me back saying just give it to me David
Rob Scott [47:16]
that’s exactly it. I’ve never had somebody kind of say it back to me exact, I’m so glad that you’re self aware enough to like see that process. There’s something that changes when you actually change your identity, right. And it happens all the time. Your five year old identity is no longer with you, right? We’re kind of we’re editing and upgrading this all the time. But so often it’s done based on protection and fear and shutting down. And public speaking is scary. I don’t like doing that. You’ll hear in people’s language. I’m not that or I can’t do that, or that’s not me, or that’s not my personality. And what’s so funny is I totally honor people’s natural preferences, their natural talents and all that. But to a huge degree, you’re way more capable, become grow, do more, apply yourself, like our brain is built to be neuro plastic and changeable, right. We’re completely built to learn and find new skills and do it. I mean, we’re, we’re the dominant species on the planet, because we’re so good at that, right? And what are most people saying, they’re saying, Wow, that’s not me, I can’t do that. And that’s not going to happen if down and out. And now you’re surrounded by people like me who come on your show, and are inspired and all that. But the people I work with are so often they’re stuck, right? They’re stuck in self sabotage and limiting beliefs and all this stuff. And the reality is, is we can make that process really, really fast. What’s amazing about you is you went through 400 episodes or whatever, working and trying and doing all that. And you know, I love that. And that’s fantastic. What I’m what I’m supposing here is that, that can be even shortcut even faster when it’s consciously done and worked on in the way that I do with people. Does that make sense?
David Ralph [48:48]
It makes total sense. Yeah. And I think I actually listened to episode one the other day of my show, because the guy who was episode one, and it’s a bit of a sort of backstory, how he became Episode One, he is going to be my 500th interview. And so I thought it would be quite nice to get him back on. So one afternoon, I thought, I’m going to listen back to that show to sort of see how I was back in those days. And I was quite surprised, actually about it wasn’t as bad as I thought actually quite enjoyed it. But he said to me on that show, and I totally forgotten that. He said, You will not believe the change in yourself by having these conversations every single day with the people that you’re going to be talking about your learning curve, and your brain changing somehow will be a dramatic. And because it was my first show, I didn’t grasp it. It was just something he was saying. Yeah, I look back on it now. And I think yes, absolutely, you know, to have 500 plus conversations with people like yourself, and everyone that comes on the show, you cannot be the same Can you you’ve got to have changed completely.
Rob Scott [49:52]
Yeah, I mean, we’re not we’re not these islands away from what’s out there. We’re a co creation with everyone going on. I was talking to a good friend last night, and we’ve got, you know, a big political circus happening in my country right now. And it’s, it’s really important, because if we’re just surrounded by narrative, if we’re just surrounded by story, it changes our thought it might, you know, we might try to reject it, or we might do whatever, but hypnotically it gets in, and it changes what’s happening. And there’s and you know, big marketers know, this, the the large companies that have lots of budget and all that, they know that if you put someone’s face on a side of a bus, and a newspaper and magazine, and then you see them at 10 o’clock at night, it becomes true, like they’re completely vetted, when, you know, it’s just a cognitive bias for us. And, and so you know, this is the role that media is playing and and and you know, for you, you’re consciously putting yourself around positive people and doing all that, but most people that are not doing anything consciously about it, they’re getting almost like victims getting bad around by almost just whatever’s around them in the moment, right. And I don’t think we given have time and attention to curate that for yourself. Because just like the food we choose to put in our body, just like the water, we drink, the information that we put in, or we allow into our ears and through our eyes, that’s food too. And it all goes into changing, you know, this organism that we are because we’re all interdependent, you know, as we’re walking around, so yeah, as your as you’re having these conversations, that’s going to completely optimize you without you even making any effort to do it. And for those people that are surrounded by a huge amount of negativity, or an abusive partner, or you know, a negative best friend or whatever, you know, they should watch that because that’s a really bad diet of information that they’re on.
David Ralph [51:37]
So just before we send you back in time on the Sermon on the mic Balboa, the people that are listening to you, and obviously you are your tsunami of passion and charisma, what would they gain from connecting with you? What will they gain from your programs? What kind of people are you looking for?
Rob Scott [51:56]
Yeah, so I mean, the thing that I’m most proud of now is this idea entity shifting mastermind that I’m running. And it’s you know, it’s based on this concept that any kind of profound change in somebody is based in changing your self concept, right? That if your self concept has, you know, limiting self talk, negative beliefs, whatever, if you’re going to self sabotage, it doesn’t matter what advantages you have, you know, you can have a lot of money, you can have a lot of connections, you can have a lot of whatever. But if you’re just going to procrastinate and self sabotage, it almost doesn’t matter. So you’ve got to master yourself first. And so the first part of the program is all about that. It’s an eight week program. And in the beginning, literally, between week two, and week three, there’s a there’s a shift a move in consciousness for people where they become aware of, of the limits that they’ve been carrying, and they become ridiculous to them. And it’s not just in that moment, they gain the skill to be able to edit those forevermore, right? It’s like, they literally up level their consciousness to where they don’t, they’re not as susceptible to that kind of mindset anymore. So that’s up leveling kind of who you are, and how you see yourself what your identity is. And then in the second part of the program, we’re all about aligning what we did a lot of talking about before the passion, the purpose and the profit, how do you apply this new version of yourself to what you’re here to do in a way that’s really, really profound? And I have a system to kind of pull that out? Like, what’s, what’s the purpose that you’re here for? What’s your main kind of meaning in life? What are your talents, what are your passions, all that and then we all work on dialing that together into like, here’s what you’re supposed to do. And for many people, that’s very close to what they’re already doing. But it gets infused with this deep meaning. And then for other people, it’s a whole out of left field, like oh, my God, I didn’t realize that’s completely what I’m here to do. And it really deeply changes their life, those two things together, kind of master your being, and then what you’re here to do, and that whole thing is, is the identity shifting mastermind. Besides that, on my website, there’s tons of free courses and videos you don’t even have to sign up for. And, you know, I’d love to point people there, if that’s possible. And my blog is Rob Scott.com. And if anybody’s interested in identity shifting, you can check out identity shifting calm.
David Ralph [54:09]
Well, this is the part of the show where we’re going to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the advice would you give where we’re gonna find out, because we’re gonna play the theme to
Rob Scott [54:49]
So I’m going to pick going back to when I was very, very young, and call it about four or five. And I would love to look at my younger self in the face, and just give myself a really, really big hug. And I’d like to tell him, how much I love him, and how much I want him to love himself, I’m going to let him know that there are going to be some very tough times that come, but that I know that he’s going to be alright, and he’s going to be safe, and he’s going to be okay. The part that I’d like him to understand as he grows up, is that mastering your own meaning making, mastering the way that you think and that you talk to yourself, is probably never going to be taught to you in school, it’s probably never going to be explained to you by your parents or your friends. But that it’s probably the most important thing that you can learn. And through that, I’m going to suggest that he spends time in meditation and contemplation, and to make really good friends with the wisdom and books and in learning. And that if I could just wait one and give him one thing, it would be a deep sense of presence and self love.
David Ralph [56:06]
Rob, just in case our audience didn’t grasp it, what’s the number one best way that they can connect with you?
Rob Scott [56:12]
Sure, probably my blog at Rob Scott.com. There’s a fantastic free coaching course right there for everybody and tons of content and blogs and videos on there. And as I mentioned before, if anybody wants to check out identity shifting, there’s a there’s a site at identity shifting com where they can learn more about that process
David Ralph [56:30]
will have all the links on the show notes. Well, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again, when you have more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Mr. Rob Scott, thank you so much David,
Rob Scott [56:47]
this has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you.
David Ralph [56:50]
So do you think your life started a bit crappy like, well, that guy, as I said in the introduction, he had a lifestyle that I couldn’t even proceed, I wouldn’t want anyone to proceed, but look how he’s turned it around. And he’s done that by taking responsibility for his own actions. And he’s mindset, he made firm decisions, and he keeps them making them and not any of us are different from him. Not any of us have got less talent or less money or whatever. It’s all the decisions that we make. And after over 500 plus shows as we are coming up to now, if you still haven’t grasped the fact that it’s what you do on a daily basis that makes a difference. Then you just never going to get it wake up every morning decide to do and do something and then the next day trying to build upon it. And little by little by little you will get to where you want to be that’s how you join up dots thank you so much for listening. This was David Ralph, i hope youy enjoyed this episode. And we’ll see you again soon. Cheers. Bye bye
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