Steve Rogers Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Steve Rogers
Steve Rogers is today’s guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots business podcast interview.
He is here everyday to find the best ways for companies or individuals to increase their happiness and fulfilment on all levels.
Which is an interesting statement to make, especially in regards to having happiness before anything else.
As most people would consider that they gain the rewards first, and that is where the happiness begins, but our guest feels differently
As he says “I help individuals transitioning into becoming an entrepreneur or making the best of the journey once you are on the path.
And the most important, helping to find the best ways for the company or individual to create more happiness, joy & fulfilment in business and life!”
How The Dots Joined Up For Steve
So where did he start on the road to where he is today?
Well that began many years with Berkshire Hathaway as a branch manager, rising through all Exec positions and to the CEO position in only 10 years.
During this period, he was fortunate enough to spend quite a bit time with super investor Warren Buffet and the numerous associates and high-calibre leaders that now form his inner circle.
Which was an amazing chance to view the supper achievers at close hand, working in the natural environment, and now take these lessons into his own business with Achlemy Advisors.
So did he gain more from the experience of doing, or more from the opportunity to view how these individuals operate?
And is he now where he truly wants to be in his professional life, or is he just getting going on the true path that was waiting for him to find?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only Mr Steve Rogers.
Show Highlights
During the show we discussed such weighty subjects with Steve Rogers such as:
Why it is so important to focus in on the happiness within your life before you start going for the wealth and status, and how to do it.
How he got fired from a top job, after working like mad for fifteen years, and can see the gift in having that decision made for him.
Why he frames his thinking on the idea of happiness, by waking up every morning and saying “I have two choices…happy or really happy”….. let’s go for really happy
And Lastly……..
Steve shares an amazing scorecard system that he uses everyday to keep himself on track. This is something that you need to really take notes on.
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Full Transcription Of Steve Rogers Interview
Intro [0:00]
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hi, everybody, and welcome to Join Up Dots five to three, I’ll tell you what I know, it’s a big world. And I know I’ve been doing this for a few years now. But I still get slightly amazed when I’m finishing my day when my guest is just starting his day, or maybe he’s been going for hours because most entrepreneurs seem to get up at the crack of dawn for some reason. And it’s not a surprise, because they’re on a mission. And this guy’s on a mission as well. In fact, he’s here every day to find the best ways for companies or individuals to increase their happiness and fulfilment on all levels, which is An interesting statement to make, especially in regards to having happiness before anything else, as most people, I would guess would consider that they gain the rewards first. And that is where the happiness begins. But our guest feels differently. As he says, I help individuals transitioning into becoming an entrepreneur, or making the best of the journey once they’re on the path and the most important, helping to find the best ways for the company or individual to create more happiness, joy and fulfilment in business and life. So where did he start on the road to where he is today? Well, that began many years ago with Berkshire Hathaway as a branch manager rising through over positions to the CEO position in only 10 years and during this period, it was fortunate enough to spend quite a bit of time with super investor Warren Buffett and the numerous associates and high calibre leaders that now form his inner circle, which was an amazing chance to view the super achievers at close hand, working in the natural environment and now taking these lessons into his Own Business with alchemy advisors. So did he gain more from the experience of doing or more from the opportunity to view how these individuals operate? And is he now where he truly wants to be in his professional life? Or is he just getting going on the true path that was waiting for him to find? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show, to start Join Up Dots with the one and only Mr. Steve Rogers. How are you sir?
Steve Rogers [2:23]
I’m good, David. Thank you. That was quite the intro. I appreciate that.
David Ralph [2:26]
You you’ve got quite a kind of eclectic background having you he seems to have been a very driven I like to go through the LinkedIn profile. And it seemed to me that there was there were steps there were steps and he was on your way all the way through, is an outsider’s point of view, or were you like that?
Steve Rogers [2:43]
You know, I’ve been pretty driven since I was a young kid for somehow I ended up with the Dr. Gene. So much that I became Dr. And rebellious and I moved out of my house when I was 17 years old, and finished high school on my own and went out into the world at a young age thinking that there was something out there I needed to create and do and be So I think it’s been in me for a long time.
David Ralph [3:02]
Do you have kids Steve?
Steve Rogers [3:04]
grown kids actually, I’ve got some grandkids as well. I have a daughter who’s 28, a son who’s 34. He has two kids. And my daughter who just got married a year or so ago, is pregnant with her first and she’s having a baby boy, which will be our first grandchild due in two months. So I don’t picture myself as a grandpa by any means. But I love the experience of being a grandpa. And my title is poppy instead of grandpa. So
David Ralph [3:28]
well, I’m a granddad as well. And would you give that advice to your kids? If your kids got to the age of 17? And they want you to move out and go through college finishing up themselves? Would you say yeah, that’s good. Ivies because I did it or would you go hang on? Hang on, just stay at home for a few more years? How would you flavour it now?
Steve Rogers [3:48]
I probably would have told him to get out at 12
No kidding. You know, it probably is not for everybody by any means. And it’s not something that I did with with anything but comments. My dad was a really strict military man, and had five boys and seven years and so we had a very strict household. So I don’t think my kids would have been in that experience and I probably would have tried to talk them through the process of not making life any harder than it needed to be at an early age, but it definitely served me well. And I’m glad that I had good relationships with my kids to be able to have them stay and you know, leave for college when they wanted to and do what they needed to do. So I’m not sure that that would be advice given.
David Ralph [4:26]
So you sort of driven Oh, well, you bloody minded because it is quite different, isn’t it? That kind of vibe, which way would you go?
Steve Rogers [4:34]
I would say I’m driven I have definitely this inner gear that’s always in a higher gear my you know, which is interesting because when I go to the doctor and I just got another full physical, my heart rate is really low. Like I haven’t standing heart rate of like 52 or something or 53. And so my blood pressure is extremely low. So my vitals show that I’m a very calm, serene kind of mellow person, but my accent And my thoughts and my deeds are stuff that are driven to want to manifest wanting to create so there’s always this creation thing that’s happening inside of me that feels like I just am being pulled in this river of creation and and probably why some of the career paths that you’ve talked about previously on like the intro. And so I think there’s an inner drive actually.
David Ralph [5:21]
So you kind of got like the yin and yang thing going on. I need a personal order. So we’ll, let’s get going. But how you guys let’s just calm it down. You put the whole thing.
Steve Rogers [5:31]
Well, you know, it’s interesting. I and now that you put it that way I am. I do have that kind of Zen quality. I mean, I’m the guy who’s the calm in the middle of chaos, who’s the still in the storm. Sometimes it drives my wife crazy because she’s very comes from an emotional base. She wears her heart on her sleeve. She wants me to get riled up sometimes. And I’m just kind of calm as a cucumber through all things, but at the same time, I’m very, very driven on creating big big opportunities and helping manifest big opportunities for other people in their life. That takes a lot of drive and a lot of self creation and a lot of, you know, just sheer goal setting and determination and make those things happen. So it is an interesting dynamic, I guess it works for me.
David Ralph [6:12]
So let’s talk about what you’re doing at the moment. When you are a coach, you’re driven to change businesses, outlooks, and individuals as well. And you focus in on the happiness first you focus in on actually getting the inner game right before the outer game. Is that right?
Steve Rogers [6:30]
Yeah, that’s absolutely right. You know, when I when I talked to most people along the way that have had any kind of success or want success, when you ask people what they ultimately want, most people say they want to be happy, or they want to be more happy or they’re trying to find more inner peace and joy. I don’t care if it’s a millionaire or a billionaire, or someone who’s you know, making six figures or someone who’s just getting by. All human beings seem to be seeking this sense of inner happiness and inner peace. But we get on this wheel of race, kind of like what you were talking about. I saw your bio and and your your stuff when I was researching you as well about, you know, putting on the suit and going to work every day and doing what we think we’re told to do, and getting the accolades and getting the titles and getting the paycheck and getting the bonuses and getting the car getting the titles and we think that’s supposed to bring us happiness. Yeah. But what I have found is it doesn’t necessarily bring us happiness, it brings us status, it brings us stuff, it brings us things. But unless you’re really finding ways during the process to be creating inner happiness along the way, and cultivating your inner happiness, it’s not gonna ever show up at the end of a rainbow. So it has to be something that’s ongoing each day each week. And when I’m working with corporations, or companies, or if I’m working with individuals, those are some of the questions I start asking them in my first few consultations with them is are they happy? Where do they find happiness? How do they define happiness? And how can they create more joy and happiness in their life, and that usually people want to talk about profits and balance sheets and more customers and more leads, and we eventually get to talking about that, of course, but I try and always interweave both of those things in collectively because I think they’re very intertwined.
David Ralph [8:00]
I had a guest on the show probably about 200 episodes ago now and he’s a teacher and I apologise Mike ferry, I can’t remember where you’re teaching. But um, he realised that a lot of the kids were on the path that you were talking about driven to achieve high grades driven to get the best job driven, driven, driven, driven, driven, and then getting about intellect early 30s and start looking around thinking, Is this it? You know, there’s got to be more than this. I’ve done everything that I thought was right. And so he actually brought in happiness classes into his school, where he actually teaches kids how to actually find the happiness before the achievement to do it the opposite way he feels that we should break that curve, that we’re where we’re all on, would you see the same?
Steve Rogers [8:47]
Absolutely. And if you look at what’s happening in the media world, and you know, whether it’s podcasts, television, magazines, all you have to do is Google the word finding happiness or how to how to find happiness. And you’d be amazed at what’s come about in magazines. I haven’t, you know, happiness magazine sitting on a stack of stuff on my desk here. But I think people realise, you know, that not only is it marketable one thing, I mean, it’s one thing to have something that, you know, media finds you can market. But it’s another thing to have an audience for it. And you know, many people have tried to find happiness, through their spirituality, through their religion through a relationship. And those all bring senses of happiness. Absolutely. But true inner happiness really, ultimately means that you’re following and being true to your inner self, and doing something for yourself on a daily basis that creates some kind of happiness just for yourself that you can then reflect and share back with others. Because if you can’t create happiness, that’s something that your true authentic thing that only makes you happy and share it with other people. It doesn’t manifest very well. So I would agree with what you’re saying. 100% and I think the more kids can learn that at a younger age, that yes, you should be successful in whatever you define success, but it’s, it’s equally as important. I’m not necessarily saying More important, but it’s equally in some cases more important to find ways to be happy along the way. And that can be, you know, many, many things. And I do think that kids these days, there’s a mix of it, which is interesting because some kids are so driven on getting grades, getting a status or trying to keep their, their parents happy to try and keep up with the Joneses. The social media world has made things so transparent and so competitive, and people are continually comparing themselves to others. And what happens with social media is sometimes people don’t feel good enough, and they don’t feel worthy, and they don’t feel whole. On the other hand, I do notice in the workforce when I was running large workforces over the last couple years that the millennial generation is more interested in having a balanced life. Some of the things that finding in the workplace is they want more balanced workweeks, they want more time off, they want to make sure they’re working with companies that are giving back to worthy causes. A lot of these Millennials are more involved in social causes. So I do find that there is an interesting flavour of trying to break through and not be you Someone who’s gonna stay at a job for 30 years just because it’s what they thought they do to get their pension. But people who are really trying to find jobs and quality environments where they can find happiness in their workplace. So I think it’s starting to evolve more.
David Ralph [11:11]
Are you happy in your job? Because I’m listening to you? And I’m thinking, wow, this guy’s on for energy. It’s almost exhausting. listening to you talk, you’re so honest. Are you are you happy every single day? Or do you have sort of bad crappy days like the rest of us?
Steve Rogers [11:27]
You know, and I appreciate you asking that question. I absolutely have bad crappy days. But here’s the difference of it. The way I frame my thinking about it is really this is bizarre. And I, my wife will attest to this as Yep, he’s really like this because people say, Is he really always that happy? She goes, I’ve lived with him for for almost 30 years. And yeah, he’s actually always like that. I wake up every morning, and I say to myself, in my mind, and it’s because I just have a feeling about it this way that I have two choices as I start my day. I can either be happy or I can be really happy. That’s kind of where I start my barometer. And the reason I say that is because I wake up just I have met so many people that have had so many challenges in their life that have even had more challenges as me that have been paralysed, that have lost their voices that have cancer, that have lost limbs that have had tragic things happen in their family with murders and various things like that. So when I wake up in the morning, as people say, if you’re awake, you’re breathing, you have your body, mind and soul, you have your functioning life, you have a roof over your head, you have food to eat, and you have the basic shelter of life. And to me that is a true essence of just being happy for that. And then from there, everything else is gravy. So I actually do even in the days where I have hardships, financial challenges. My wife was in the hospital a year and a half ago and almost died and I was in intensive care for six weeks in a row with her while she was in a coma, and every day I still woke up happy. It didn’t mean that I didn’t wake up. at some times fearful it didn’t mean that I didn’t wake up, sometimes stress But I still woke up with this sense of happiness of being alive.
David Ralph [13:03]
Because we’ve got a connection here, Steve, because I wake up every morning and I make a conscious decision to be as happy as I can. And so I think nothing about dancing and singing around the kitchen and stuff. Now, my kids shuffling past me in the morning going to school. They think it’s the most annoying thing in the world now, does ultimate happiness like you and I’m trying to do does that just become a huge annoyance for other people?
Steve Rogers [13:30]
You know, sometimes it does. I think it does become an annoyance, whether it’s on social media, or it’s every day, like kinda Where are you so happy. And my wife, my wife is normally a really happy person. But she’s, uh, you know, she was a an actress in the early days when she was in her late teens, early 20s. So she was used to being around emotion and drama and she likes that kind of stuff. But she has highs and lows like when she’s pissed. She’s pissed. Yeah, when she’s depressed, she’s depressed. And when she wants to be in her pity party, she doesn’t want me being happy. And so sometimes That is annoying for people. And I get that. And so what I try and do is dial it back just a little bit, but I still make sure that you know, part of that doesn’t then affect my happiness, just because it irritates other people. And just because what I don’t want to do is diminish who I am by diminishing my happiness, but I also trying to be conscious and respectful of others. And sometimes I do learn to dial it down and not be as vocal about it. Now,
David Ralph [14:24]
obviously, what we’re talking about works very well when you’re playing to your unique strengths and you’re in an environment that you’ve created yourself. And you can be as happy as you like. Now in corporate environments. I know this from experience, the happier that I was, it was almost like I didn’t have depth I wasn’t able to produce the people walking around with frowns looking very serious, seemed to be the ones that people would go to because they commanded respect. Did you find that works towards you or against you and sort of share halfway or whatever?
Steve Rogers [14:59]
Yeah, that’s a great Question while climbing the corporate ladder with that company, when I started with that company in 1994, I think we had 300 real estate agents and at our peak as we grew it over a many year period, and then got purchased by Berkshire Hathaway, we grew up to, like 5000. Salespeople. So we continually grew. And along the way, there was a lot of corporate politics, a lot of corporate structure. We went through many ups and downs, real estate markets. And when you’re in a really down real estate market, and there’s foreclosures, and people are losing their homes, again, that’s not fun. But it doesn’t mean you can’t still be happy. So I was also in the sales part of the business part of me climbing the ladder of corporate america and and if most people look at their lives, or in some type of thing, that they’re selling something, they’re selling an idea, they’re selling a dream, they’re selling a product, they’re selling a service, they’re selling consumer service issues, whatever it might be, and people want to be around happy people. So for me, it worked to my advantage of finding ways to be a salesman in a respectful way, and being positive and being happy even in the scope of challenging and depressing times. You in a corporate environment when you’re in corporate meetings, and you’re in team meetings, that’s where people do get annoyed with being overly happy and overly positive. But I had to learn how to balance all that I made sure, though, that I didn’t let my outer circumstances affect my psyche, because it may not have been appropriate in a board meeting to be, you know, happy and doing somersaults and high fiving people and telling jokes, I get that. But it doesn’t mean that I couldn’t still find ways to find things that could make me happy in that day. And then I would go out and share it in a different element. If it wasn’t appropriate to share it in that meeting, then I would make sure that I went into my next group team meeting or my next meeting, and I would share it. I also took risks. I mean, I also being a I was a very vocal, you know, CEO, very vocal CEO, very vocal president. And when I was in meetings, and it wasn’t the norm, I was probably the guy that would break the tension in the room with some type of humour, or with some type of video that I would show to break up the, you know, some kind of so I really made sure that I tried to implement little nuggets of happiness that I sprinkled through the day, because I did felt I did feel that it affected my team, even with upper management. And sometimes upper management did not find it so humorous. You know, when you’re talking to your boss, you’re talking to the corporate person and you’re, you know, trying to make light of something or you’re trying to be funny, and they come back with equipment, this is serious matter, you know, blah, blah, blah. The way I would combat that is I always made sure I produced so when you’re producing and you’re bringing in revenue, and you’re bringing in people and you’re hitting sales records, luckily, I had a sales record that I continually rose through the ranks. So it’s kind of hard to, you know, look success in the face and tell it It’s telling it’s it’s not working when you’re being productive. So it’s hard to be happy when you’re not being productive and they just look at you as a goof.
David Ralph [17:40]
So as we hear time and time again, yeah, working up that corporate ladder now you’re doing best being here. Well, you’re the classic example of you ended up on the wrong letter.
Steve Rogers [17:52]
Um, you know, I’m not sure that that’s a good question. I have another philosophical belief that I believe Everything happens for a reason. And I know that’s a very overused phrase. And I know that’s kind of sometimes cliche. But I always have believed that from a very young age and so I live my life that anytime something happens whether it’s a promotion, getting a job starting a company, closing a company, selling a company, terminating an employee, hiring Interpol, whatever it would be, I believe that everything happens for a reason. And so I don’t look back on any of the things that I ended up on the wrong path. Because I’m used, I always use those experiences for the next thing that evolves. Yeah. And I realised that my goal in that process was to be happy was to learn the lessons of life and to be interchanging and exchanging with other human and spiritual beings along the path, then I don’t ever feel like I read it up in the long run ladder. Do I think that sometimes the ladders are wrong? were longer than I hoped and expected to be? Yes, absolutely. And so the path I’m on right now with my consulting career path, it’s something that probably came to light even on the first day that I started as the CEO and was promoted. I talked about this in the I have launching at the end of the month, about how when I finally got to sit in the chair of being the CEO and going to work that day and I had the suit and tie on and the briefcase in hand and I was going from my old office to my new office and the previous CEO had left the previous day. And I was stepping in the CEO seat and I had worked for that position for 10 years. And I’d had an on goal sheets and affirmation sheets. And I sat in the chair and I was so proud of myself. And I was thinking wow, I’m the I’m the CEO today of a $25 billion company with 5000 people. This is a guy who barely graduated high school. This is amazing. And I was kind of gloating in the pride of what I had accomplished. And as I was sitting there, some voice kind of just tapped me on the shoulder and in my mind and said this still isn’t it. And I swung around in my chair as fast as I looked around and who the hell just said that, and it was just this this voice of going this still isn’t it? And it was like when you have this elation. I probably like the day when you realise there is no Santa Claus as a kid and you go from this expiration of what is. And in that moment, I couldn’t understand where that was coming from. But I knew internally I kind of process that for a minute. And some of the voices kind of said to me, this still isn’t it, you may be in this position for two or three years, but there’s something else you’re supposed to be doing something else is calling you. And I diminished that thought as quickly as I could. And I went back to my computer and started on with my day and went on to go run my sales teams that day. But it was interesting in that moment, I had worked so long for it, and I my inner voice is still isn’t it, which is, you know, ending up on a ladder, where you climb and climb and climb, and you get to get to something and you wonder if it was worth all that it took to get there. It ended up serving its purpose. I ended up learning amazing mount I had lots of scars and war, you know, war battle score along the way. And a lot of success has meant a lot of cool people in that process. And I’m using it to this day in my coaching and consulting in my writing. But so I guess then, that’s a long answer to your question. And no, I don’t ever felt like I ended up on the wrong ladder. I do feel like I’m on the right path now and I’m just getting started.
David Ralph [20:58]
Yeah, cuz he’s very much like snakes and ladders, isn’t it that kids game where you get to the top of the ladder menu, slide all the way back down the snake. And then you sort of move up the next one. And just to sort of emphasise, kids because I know few kids are you actually listen to this show what Steve was saying that, you know, Santa Claus does exist. But if you stop believing in van, he’s not around anymore. So you got to keep them believing in Him until you possibly can. And even better believe in yourself. Isn’t that why Steve?
Unknown Speaker [21:27]
Absolutely. Well said.
David Ralph [21:28]
So for over listeners out there. How do you stretch your day because you are an entrepreneur, you’re on full flow. You love what you’re doing? does it become too much for you? Because I find that the people who want to help the biggest audience sometimes need the biggest help themselves because they can’t do as much as they want.
Steve Rogers [21:50]
That’s a great question. And it does become overwhelming because when you have this when you go from many people go from being in the corporate world or having a company to becoming an entrepreneur. As a solo entrepreneur starting out, which is what I have done, I just recently brought on a virtual assistant that I’m using from the Philippines. And I plan on bringing someone locally here in the near future. But I was used to many years, whether it was running Berkshire Hathaway, or then when I left Berkshire Hathaway in 2008, I ran my own real estate company for five years, and I had four or 500 salespeople, I had a marketing team and a technology team and a social media team. So I was used to having people help me build the big dream that I had, who were specialised in those fields. So at night, when I was going through my emails and cleaning things out or task of the day, or whatever, I could push the email to this person and push it to that person and say, Please take care of this handle this take care of this one, put this on the docket, whatever it would be. So it was very different as a solo entrepreneur. You know, you realise as you’re going through in planning your day on sales and marketing and administration and operations, you basically are that person. And so every time you think who’s gonna do that, you think, well, for now, it’s me. And you know, a lot of times that’s because of budget, so that’s because you’re still trying to figure out what your business model is and what You’re creating and what you even need. And so it does become daunting and it becomes overwhelming. It’s exciting all rolled into one but sometimes you feel like you’re just being sat on by an elephant versus biting an elephant one bite at a time and eating it. So the way I do that is I have I’m big on goal setting. I’m big on structuring schedules and calendars. I have a daily scorecard that I give myself that I call it my life balanced scorecard which has four different categories that I rate which is my body being bonds and business which we can talk about if you want Yeah,
David Ralph [23:32]
so I go into that again, I didn’t quite catch that I was too quick.
Steve Rogers [23:35]
Yeah, these are business Oh before. So what I do is I block out my monthly calendar of things. I know I have to do my prospecting time, my coaching appointment time, my reading time, so I block out on a monthly basis. So I make appointments with myself, knowing where I have chunks of time that stuff needs to get done. And then on a review my day at the end of each day and I make sure that I’m making my to do list for the next day. So when I wake up in the morning, I’ve already got It mapped out as to what needs to happen. I know what my weekly schedule is, and my ideal appointments are for the week. But then on a daily basis, I have this thing called my life balanced scorecard. And I’m looking up on my wall right now. And I have this. It’s like a whiteboard. And it’s broken down into four categories. And I get the four categories that I’m writing myself on each day is my body, my being my bonds, and my business. And I get one point in each of those categories each day, if I’m accomplishing what I said I was going to do in those categories, and I’m trying to get just four points a day. If I get four points a day, times, seven days a week, I get 28 points at the end of the week. I know I’ve had a perfect great week if I get a 20 or 26 or 22. I know that I’ve fallen down a few items I know that I’m probably lacking in some areas. So to explain that on my body category to get one point. I actually became a vegan about a year ago, almost a year ago, and I lost about 50 pounds in the last year so I’ve really at the best weight category. I’ve been in health and fitness. I’ve been Ben and I started running, I’m working out with a trainer, I take Kung Fu, but on a daily basis, I just get to a point, a half a point, if I eat clean and follow my nutrition health plan for that day, if I eat properly, get a half a point. And if I do my exercise and make sure I’m doing what I call my exercise of the day, then I get another half a point. So I get one point for my body. For my being. That’s where I have to do my prayer meditation in the morning. And I have to do something of some, some kind of spiritual reading. But then on the other half a point I get is I have to do something in my faith that I’m doing something to be active in showing my, my faith to the world, whether it’s being a humane or spiritual person and doing some effort or something for someone else. So I got a half a point for meditating and prayers, I got another half a point for doing some kind of deed. Then for my bonds, I get a half a point to make sure that I’m showing my family and some affection of love and appreciation each day with an effort that I’m making an effort to tell them I love them to show them. I love them. My wife, my family. etc, I get a half a point for that. And then I get another half a point for doing some kind of bonds relationship outside of my family. Maybe I’m sending a private facebook message to a friend or so and tell them how much they mean to me and how much I think about them. Maybe I’m calling up a pass relative, I haven’t talked to them a long time, maybe I’m calling a past associate or sending them a nice note. So I have to do something just to get a half a point. So that gives me another point, then for my business, I have to do something to work in my business, and then work on my business. So working in my business is making sure I’m being effective on a daily basis to keep my business productive and happy, happy clients. So that’s a half a point. And then working on my business is where I’m doing something that creates some creativity for future revenue or future products. That is the creation mode. So if I do that, and get a half a point for each of these categories, and I’m just trying to get to four points a day. So it just keeps me aware and focused on each day that I don’t get too out of whack that I you know that I that I’m not focusing on the things that I say are important to my life.
David Ralph [26:54]
blow me. I’ll tell you why I thought I was focused but that is exhausting focus, isn’t it?
Steve Rogers [27:00]
Well, you know, people say that and I use it with my coaching clients. And once they start doing it, they realise how much it frees them up. Because it’s really easy. I mean, once you get the process down and you know, I literally on a daily basis, I’ve got this little thing that’s in and out of my office. And it’s a little marker with a thing, and I put a half a pointer point under each category, and it just makes me conscious of doing it. And if I don’t do it, then I put a zero I get myself a big goose egg and I go, Well, I didn’t do that today. But if I have a few days in a row that I get goose, a goose a goose egg and I’m going okay, there’s a problem here. If I’m not eating and doing my health and fitness each day, I know I start feeling worse. I know I start feeling sluggish. And so I make sure I do something to course correct before I get too far out of whack. So it’s not like it’s on some big Excel spreadsheet. It’s not like it’s on some big long conversation. It takes me a long time. It probably takes me you know, a minute a day to do the actual scoring card. It just takes the consciousness of consciousness of it on a daily basis that as I’m doing my task, scheduling my appointments, setting my my schedule. It keeps me focused when I say yes to something Or when I have to say no to something why I’m doing that. So it’s just more it’s a matter of more of awareness. And I do believe anything you’re aware of, and you can track and measure you can improve upon. Oh, absolutely.
David Ralph [28:10]
Awareness is the first state of everything that I teach people. I think one of the problems that so many guys have who come to me is that they want to change their life. They want to do something more, but they’re not spending any time actually looking around at what’s possible and what’s around. And I say to them, you know, start looking at blog, start looking at websites, because you will find that there’s things out there that you’ll go, Wow, I had no idea that you could teach dogs to surf. And I actually know somebody who’s got a business doing this. They love dogs, they love surfing and so they’ve taught people how to take their dogs out and surfboards with them. Now, you think that’s a lunatic business idea, but they’re doing very well on it. But unless you become aware, you just can’t see but these possibilities are out there.
Steve Rogers [28:57]
Yeah, absolutely great point and in addition To people not being aware, it’s a lot of people are not willing to take self inventory. Many of us live our lives in denial. And I’ve lived in denial in different categories in my life when I was overweight. And when I was drinking too much, or when I was smoking too much, you know, I was I was, I was aware of it, but I was in denial about how much did it become that big of a part of my life. So I think by having these kind of scorecards, or self analysis, it helps us give a self awareness. And then we once were self aware, we can decide whether we want to change it on and then if we decide we want to change, we can then realise there’s a formula. And my book is called lead to gold. And I talked about having a formula for life and a pattern and it’s just like, you know, the laws of gravity exist, whether you believe them or not, the laws of resistance and I believe all of us as people, I don’t care if you’re an entrepreneur or whomever, we all have the laws of resistance and anytime you’re trying to change, change your behaviour, change your life, create a big goal. And the bigger the goal in the dream is the bigger the resistances and resistance are those things in life that try and hold you back from going where you want to go. And but once you’ve Break through the sound barrier or you break through resistance, you you find immense power on the other side of that, but most people are not willing to do what it takes to get through that barrier first, because it’s hard. It’s not easy to change our internal bread patterns. But there are ways you can take step by step processes to do that. So it’s not easy, and it’s not for the faint of heart. But if you’re trying to create the life you want, and you’re trying to create happiness, and you’re trying to create fulfilment, and you’re trying to create a legacy, and you’re trying to create wealth, in monetary and and happiness, wealth and in life wealth, then to me, I have found that one of the past that worked for me and it worked for many others that that seemed to get you there.
David Ralph [30:35]
Well, that’s probably some words now and then we’re gonna delve back into that because I think that is fascinating. What we’re talking about. This is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [30:42]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many things. Lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [31:09]
Well, that statement can be split up into two halves he dad didn’t believe, but Jim did believe and sort of went after it. Which side? Have you been on both sides of that? Or have you always been on the gym side? Where Where do you sort of? Where’s your camp?
Steve Rogers [31:23]
Yeah, I would say that 90% of the time I’ve been on Jim’s camp, I’ve always believed that I had a purpose and that I was worthy of creating to do something. But there are days you know, some days it’s probably more than 10% but there are days that sometimes I go got it, the overwhelm of it and the the the monotony sometimes because sometimes life can be monotonous and mundane in trying to get to that goal and it’s not always glittery and glamorous and exciting. But I would say for the most part, I’m on the side of Jim, I believe we all have our destiny in our hand. I believe that we create everything in our lives, all of the stuff in my life good, bad or ugly, brilliant, successful or tragic. I believe all of my choices and all of my actions has what has brought me there. And it doesn’t mean I have to stay there. It may be ugly in a situation, but it’s temporary, you can change that at any given time. So I love that we have control of our life, by our thought, our word, our action and our deeds. And anytime I’ve gotten a situation that I have felt, that I find myself somewhere where I don’t want to be, I first take responsibility that I got myself there that my actions from a year ago, three years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago, wherever it might be, that I’m responsible, why I’m there, and now I’m also responsible and powerful enough and worthy enough to get to where I want to go. So I never feel in a victim I’ve never felt in a victim stage of mine. And I think part of what happens when people get into where Jim Carrey’s dad was, is you sometimes become like you feel a victim to life. It’s your circumstances. It’s your your lot in life. It’s what was carved out for you and some people never leave small towns and never leave what their dad did before them, because they figured that was carved out for them. And that was our path and destiny. I don’t believe that at all. I don’t believe that anyone has a set path. It’s a limiter. I believe we all have destinies. Yes, I believe that. But I don’t believe that anyone has a path of limited destiny or limited opportunity.
David Ralph [33:13]
So when you was at Berkshire, did you do the leap of faith? Or was it something that was forced upon you? How did you transition from there to here?
Steve Rogers [33:24]
Yeah, and the quick answer was I was fired, which was a, which was not, you know, but I realised in hindsight that I had to take responsibility for that. So after 15 years, being at that company, and climbing the corporate ladder and going, as I said, from a manager and all the positions, you know, General Manager, Vice President, CEO, CEO, and you get to the seat and being in that seat for a couple years, it happened to be in one of the worst real estate markets that existed that I’d ever worked in my 20 or 25 years. This goes back into 2007 2008 when the mortgage meltdown was happening, and the you know, the reo distress markets were the highest they’ve ever been, and the government was ready to shut down and it’s financial structure. So we had such a large company in California, that part of my task of stepping in as a CEO was cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. So, you know, we had 110 offices when I started as a CEO. And by the time I got in the seat within a few months, they wanted me to close half of them. So over about a year to two year period, we closed or consolidated almost 40 some odd offices and laid off tonnes of people and fired them. And at the end of that rain, then I got fired. And they put the guy in under me that made half the money I made and was much more of a yes, man than I was. And so I realised that my path was complete there, you know, had served 15 years I never expected to skip all that time and energy and effort in my heart and soul to that it could be fired. But I had been firing people left and right myself with as much dignity as I could along the way and now I found my seat in the same in the same process. So even though they fired a CEO, what they didn’t realise at the time was that they had birth an entrepreneur, and I’ve been an entrepreneur at heart for many years in a corporate suit, and I went out immediately decided to go start my own real estate company so that I got pushed out into the world by force versus choice. But I immediately went from from forced choice to chosen choice and I think that’s something that we can do on our lives anytime something is pushed upon you whether it’s a health and unexpected health issue, an unexpected divorce, a firing position, you know, a partnership breaks up, you know, those sometimes are unexpected things that have a brick upside or have head that we don’t expect, but it doesn’t mean we can’t immediately within moments or hours or days go into a choice from there that we then have a chosen path from that force thing. So that was my my my impetus of going into the new journey.
Unknown Speaker [35:39]
So if you want
David Ralph [35:40]
so a fire, do you reckon you still be there now?
Steve Rogers [35:44]
No, because I was also realising that my during that process I realised when I got into that seat as the CEO and I sat in that chair that day and I said, this still isn’t it. I realised I’d kind of was getting ready to sell my soul and it’s not I’m this is very strong word, but it was kind of selling my soul to the devil. Yeah. And what I mean by that is I was getting now at the top of the food chain to be locked in the matrix of a corporate environment that was so structured, and I was so honoured to be a part of it. And originally, I mean, to be part of a Warren Buffet company, and to be part of the status of that. And, you know, I’d have the title and the income, I had a driver that drove me everywhere. I mean, there was there was a lot of cool things with that. But I realised that part of the reason my health had gotten challenged, and I’d gotten overweight, and part of the reason I was drinking too much, was partially because I was out of integrity with staying in tune with what I said my happiness was. And so you know that that difference of understanding what that is at the time you don’t always realise that when you’re the moment but when you reflect back on it, you realise that life is sometimes you know, very short, and it can be taken away of being in a moment. So I realised that there was other things out there that can be done, and that’s what I’ve chosen to do.
David Ralph [36:57]
Hey, he’s fascinating. I hate his time and time again. But even the dark is dots on the Join Up Dots timeline become white dots when you’re far enough away from them. You go through terrible, terrible times. And then five years later you look back on anything. God, if it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t be where I am now. Everything leads to something,
Steve Rogers [37:17]
doesn’t it? Absolutely. And then your dots, Navy, your programme is appropriate for that for sure, in many ways. And that’s how life is for sure which till we can sit back and I use the analogy of the the Google Maps app that’s out there. I’m sure people have seen that where you start out and you’re looking for something on a map on the Google Map app and it starts out let’s say you’re like I was in real estate and I’m still in real estate to a degree because I coach some real estate people. But when people are looking for property, sometimes they scope in on this this Google App thing and they see the house, then you can scroll out you can see the neighbourhood then you can see the town then you can see the city then you can see the state then you can see the United States then you can see the world then you can see and you go out but it’s a very different perspective as you start taking out the height and depth of work. Your viewpoint is and it’s when you can look back at those dots of life and go Ah, yes, I see why I met that person. I see why I had to not get that promotion. I see why I lost much much of my wealth at that time that led me to do this. I see why when my life my wife left me Oh, that makes sense now, but if you realise in your thinking and your consciousness when it’s happening, that you already believe that’s a reality and that something else good is coming because of that then it really helps you to have to change your emotional reaction to it when it happens. So when something bad happens to me I immediately say okay, God, there’s a really great gift in here somewhere and my job is to go find it. And I consciously think that way like when something bad happens, I go Okay, this is perceived bad and this is not good. You know, my leg just got cut off or I just told I was cancer or I just got fired or whatever it is. This is not good. In the scope of definition of good bad, happy not happy I get that. But I immediately go Okay, I have to as quickly as possible. Get to my thinking of where’s the gift and And if I can get to where the gift is at in thinking first, then I get on this tracking like I’m on this radar tracking zone to go create and find that and then I’m, it’s amazing how quickly that gets attracted to you. Once you start having that thinking,
David Ralph [39:12]
do you have your own personal mentor?
Steve Rogers [39:15]
I’ve had mentors and coaches, quite frankly, for probably 25 years. And I currently right now have a business coach that I use. That’s more in the the got to him a couple a couple of reasons. One, because he’s a specialist on internet marketing and webinars. And he’s also a spiritual guy, and I’m a really spiritual guy. So that’s a connection. But I’ve had coaches and mentors every year since I’ve been a business person since I was 30. Probably, I guess, probably 28 or 29, maybe. So I’ve paid every year to have a mentor or business coach or I’ve sought out mentors that I haven’t paid. But I’m lucky enough to say there was a gentleman that some people may know named Brian Tracy, who’s a very noted speaker, author, writer. Do you know of any Brian’s work?
David Ralph [39:58]
Yes, I do. Yeah, absolutely.
Steve Rogers [40:00]
Yeah, okay, so Brian, I sought out as a coach and mentor of mine, he happens to live in San Diego where I live. And I went to one of his programmes around 12 or 13 years ago. And my mission was to make him my mentor coach and do a year or two later, I ended up hiring him and I coached directly with Brian Tracy for two years. And we still remain friends to this day. And he’s written the foreword in my book for me. And there’s people like john assaraf, who is in the secret who’s a friend and mentor of mine, there’s another guy named Marshall Goldsmith, who’s one of the top international noted co executive coaches in a global world. And so I look to people like that, that I respect in business or spirituality or life. And then you know, obviously my dad who’s still alive at 80 years old, has been a great mentor to me on how he’s lived his life even though we were great. I was very rebellious. I realised as I grew up over the years are there’s a lot of ways I was very much like my dad and my my way I live. So yeah, I’m a big believer on mirroring and getting people to mentor you. If they have a life that you desire or want if they have skills. Or talents that they have. It’s amazing when you seek people out how successful people are willing to share her are willing to guide and to bring wisdom back to you. And since I was a guy that barely graduated high school as we talked about, I sought out knowledge in different ways. I sought out knowledge through reading through mentors through coaching, and I got my specified education and knowledge and degrees time and time again, from just practical world knowledge of very honourable and talented mentors and leaders. So
David Ralph [41:27]
simple Mike’s you, Brian, john, different from somebody who’s out there and they’re slogging their guts out every single day. They’re in front of the computer. They’re not seeing their kids, their family, you notice all of the wannabe entrepreneurs are starting on the journey and s locking their way through it. Well, where where is that moment when it all comes together?
Steve Rogers [41:50]
That’s a great question. I think that is comes to the ability of keeping your vision about what you’re creating at the top of what you’re doing on a leash. a weekly basis. And what I mean by that is we all get bogged down in the day to day tasks, checking stuff off our list getting bogged down in the computer. And if you’re not focused on the one thing, the one and I just happened to be reading a book today called the one thing by Gary Keller that I was looking through, but what is that thing that is the most important into you in your life, if you had to boil it down, that keeps you passionate, or in Drive while you originally started your business. And a lot of times people know why when I got started in the business, what they were trying to do, and a lot of times people want to change the world or make it better in some way, whether it’s through a product or a service. But what happens is we get caught down in the day to day bog of the minutiae, and we don’t have ways to pull ourselves out of staying focused in the bigger picture in the vision of what we’re trying to create. And we do tasks that are not adding to creating that vision as reality. So we’re focused our time on 80% of the things that don’t get much except 20% of the result. And so if you’re focused on 10 or 20%, of task and skills of creating your ideal client, prospecting Creating new relationships and and a better value to being of someone else, then I think that what happens is you’ll start finding that you start breaking through that and I go through that on my own spurts as well Believe me, I’m only been doing this entrepreneurial coaching company for a year. And I have strides where I get on a rhythm and things are in flow or things are going great. And I’ve got accounts coming in and people are happy. And then I have a lull in between accounts or things don’t happen or the book doesn’t get finished as I want and you get pulled back when you feel like you’re taking two steps back. But since I have this daily inventory that I’m tracking myself on what I say is the most important thing to do. I keep going back like course correction. Brian Tracy also talks about one of his books when a plane leaves example San Diego and it’s on to New York, and it’s on a 3000 mile track. It’s off course 99% of the time, on its way from San Diego, New York, but it just keeps course correcting and it keeps course correcting every second every minute. So I think Ron Turner is what’s talking with john Astor off and the bigger higher level people some of the ones I mentioned, is are always focused on their big rock items and they correspond Correct every day or week and they don’t let it get too far out and they don’t get caught up in the minutiae. And the last thing is that they have other people help them do that. Most all of these people that I’ve talked about, also have their own mentors and their own account of accountability partners and their own coaches, because you cannot do it alone. I don’t care how brilliant you are. Whether you are an analytic athlete, or you are the best musician that exists, are you the most phenomenal actor or actress as ever exists? All of them have coaches or mentors that help them get better and call bullshit on bullshit when bullshit needs to be called. So those are that’d be some of my response. As difficult
David Ralph [44:33]
though, isn’t it when you are bootstrapping a business, you’ve got that idea? You’re moving from company to entrepreneur, to actually see the value in paying someone and you can understand why so many people and I went through it myself the first six months. It was ridiculous the amount of work but I did now I just got better at it. So I don’t do half of this stuff. But at the beginning, I felt like I was having to do everything but if you’d said to me, well pay for a mentor. code that would have been the last thing that I would have done.
Steve Rogers [45:03]
Right? And it is very, very difficult. There’s no question about it. It’s a hard concept to get to. But I just know you know, every whether I was in tough financial situations or it was a tough market, I literally can honestly say that every there may be one year that for a half a year or here they’re like their spurts. I didn’t have a coach, but I have literally paid for a coach every year for the last 2025 years when I didn’t necessarily have the extra money to start doing. I mean, when I was a real estate manager, I was making a fairly good income but it was not you know, you spend what you make, I don’t know. It’s just how life goes and you spend to the level in which you make and then you hopefully start putting it away and saving off the top. But we all have, you know, we’ve all been hit. I mean, I remember when the real estate market tanked and I got pushed out as the CEO. I was in the worst financial spot I’d been in 10 years real estate market had been in the tank. Most of my real estate properties either gotten sold or had to do a short sale on one and some of them gone down such value. I couldn’t pull equity out. I had to walk away from a two year severance package. When I stepped away from Berkshire because I would have had a non compete. So financially trying to have coaches or people helping and it’s like cheese, I can sometimes barely afford to pay my mortgage, let alone hire a coach. But I realised that’s what kept me getting to where I said I wanted to go. So it was an investment back in myself and I had to believe that I was worthy to have that. And you know, sometimes you’d create deals with coaches, you know, maybe they get you on a payment plan, or they help you do something, you know, on part of bartering. And one of the coaches I work with I bartered so my services for his services. So if you if you really believe that there’s a way there’s always a will there’s a way and you can do it in some smaller steps versus the whole enchilada.
David Ralph [46:38]
Well, let’s play the words. Now. Just before we end this show has whizzed through. I can’t believe the time it’s near the end. But we can’t have the whole show without listening to these words from Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [46:50]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later, again, You can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [47:25]
So from one Steve to another good words.
Steve Rogers [47:29]
I believe that wholeheartedly. I think that’s brilliant, the words he used and I think that’s why people use it so much because it’s truth. I think anybody who can reflect on their life is clearly understands what he just said. I was listening to something that Gary Vaynerchuk was talking about the other day, and he was talking about how he’s interviewed a lot of people in their 80s and 90s. And he said without question whether it was their wealth status, it didn’t matter of rich poor, you know what parts of the country but they all started with the phrase and they said what you know if you had any advice In life, do you have any regrets? He said many of them always started their sentence with was, I wish, I wish I would have fill in the blank. So you know, part of that ties into the dots thing too, if you realise that what you’re doing has one thing leads to another. As long as you’re taking risks in life, I believe that and you’re you’re really moving your life forward is to where you’re following your inner gut, your inner instinct, and we all have it. So we sometimes ignore it. I do believe as I said earlier, in the podcast, everything happens for a reason and every.is a person, every circumstance is a dot. And every decision you make is a dot that puts the glue between those things happening forward. And all of them are there to help teach you guide you and give you valuable lessons, which is what life is, life is not at the end of the destiny on our deathbed life is not once you get the title, life is present right now in the present moment in this moment, and there’s a dot happening as we’re talking now. So I take great value in that and that’s it. That’s the only dot i get for the day. I mean, there’s more dots in the day and if that day ends, well then I have to realise I gave it 110% In that moment of creating that dot, and I’m part of that.if. That makes sense.
David Ralph [49:03]
Yeah, absolutely. So So what the firing? Would that be your big dots? That’s sort of really led you to where you are now? Or is is there another one?
Steve Rogers [49:12]
There is? Well, there’s actually quite many of them. I mean, I have dots that that was a big one. Yes. You know, I’ve almost died twice. I’ve been on a situation where, because of health issues, I was on a deathbed and told that I wasn’t going to make it. My wife a year and a half ago had a really unexpected fluke health thing. That was a dot. starting my own real estate company in the the universe conspiring towards my sex success. That was a dot, clearly moving on. So I have a lot of different monumental dots when I look back, because I’m always looking for them. I have so many dots that I can think of, because there’s so many more I could rattle off, because I’m always looking for dots. Like I’m always looking for what does that mean? What’s the meaning in that, like, each day? I’m like, what does that mean? What does that mean? So my mind is like over and over, it’s not never over amical but my radar is so I tuned in to meeting that person meeting that situation having something happen that I’m always looking for dots. So I don’t necessarily think there’s just a few big ones, I think you are going to be one of those people that just drives forward to bigger and bigger dots. Just you are a man on fire on you. I appreciate that. Well, I feel on fire and I’m and I’m and I’m grateful to have that in my being in my life. And I’m, I’m on a mission to go create and help as many people as I can, that are looking to go from wherever they’re at in their current life to something that’s of higher transformation of value where they want to go and if I can, in some way through coaching or writing or podcast or speaking help people Inspire to go find a way to get there I feel I believe that’s what my purpose is my purpose is to help people manifest their their their biggest greatness and their highest greatness and their highest value to their highest purpose. So that’s a big, that’s a big thing to take on. And it’s never ending that job is never done. So which means I don’t have to retire, which is cool. Well, let’s
David Ralph [50:54]
give you a chance now of helping somebody else because this is a part of the show when we send you back in time. To have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Steve, what advice would you give him? What age would you choose as well? Well, we’re gonna find out, because I’m going to play the theme tune. And when it fades, you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mic. We go
Unknown Speaker [51:22]
with the best bit
Unknown Speaker [51:24]
of the show.
Steve Rogers [51:39]
So Steve, I know you just turned 13 today, and that’s a big transition to go from going to the now the teenager that you are, and if I could give you any words of wisdom and advice, and I hope as your younger self, Steve, this is the older self at 53. So many years later, of course, that’d be 40 years later, I guess giving you advice back here. My advice Be true to yourself internally and you know what that is. So whatever your core being is, is that you feel is your purpose, start it now, do not let others direct or guide. What you feel your intermission or path is, I would say if you don’t know your passion yet, and you haven’t found what your passion is, and you probably may not have at 13, but you knew that you wanted to help change people and change the world, then I would strongly suggest that you stay in curiosity. If you’re not passionate about something yet, what are you curious about? And if you’re curious, keep digging, keep finding, keep reading, keep looking, because curiosity might be just the breadcrumbs and the dots that lead you to what your passion is. And once you finally have your passion, do everything in your power to fuel that as much as you can and get the skills and the talents that you need to maximise that skill. You will find once you find your talent and skills that your ability to monetize that and create money from helping others and being a value to others will create the life that you desire. I also want to make sure I advise you to not only just focus Focus on money. Don’t just focus on status, make sure that we’re both focused on looking at what is happiness in life for yourself and others. Because at the end of the day, I think you’ll find on the end of your path, the more you’re trying to be of service to others, and be a value to others, the more inner happiness you will create, and at the end of the day, have fun. Have fun in every day of what you’re doing, and see how you can be a value of service and you will have a very happy and joyful life. So good luck on your path, Steve. I know you will do awesome and big things.
David Ralph [53:31]
What’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you sir?
Steve Rogers [53:37]
Probably my website, www v. alchemy advisors calm, the alchemy advisors calm. I’ve got blog articles and videos and my book can be
David Ralph [53:49]
found there. It’ll be on Amazon by the end of this month, but probably my website is the best way. Well stay. Thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots and please come back again when you have more dots. To Join Up Dots, I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our paths is the best way to build our futures. Mr. Steve Rogers, thank you so much.
Steve Rogers [54:09]
David, thank you been a pleasure. Really great interview. Thank you so much.
David Ralph [54:15]
Wow. But sometimes that you’d find somebody and you think, yeah, you were on your game and that guy was focused passion, emotion, everything he was on such for flow. But believe me, that’s one of those ones. You’ve got to listen to two or three times because the gold was there all the way through from the structuring of his day. Two, choosing how to actually find the coach or mentor. That was an absolute blueprint from somebody on for fire. That was Mr. Steve Rogers. My name is David Ralph, Join Up Dots has just finished and we’ll see you again soon. Cheers.
Outro [54:52]
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