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Introducing Chandler Bolt
Chandler Bolt is today’s guest joining us on the Join Up Dots podcast interview.
He is another example of someone who seems to have been born with the skills to make their own money.
At a very early age, whilst his friends were going the normal route to get jobs, by creating resumes and attending interview after interview Chandler Bolt had other ideas.
He realised that the only person who is going to get wealthy in that scenario would be the employer not the employee.
So Chandler set on of an entrepreneurial path to start making his own money, and at quite an early age too.
At the age of 11, you could find him selling his personal snacks at scout camp and by age 17 he had hired his friends to help him operate his landscaping business that earned him $10,000 for college.
All in all, by age 20 he started and ran over $320,000 in businesses.
How The Dots Started Joining Up For Chandler
But that was just the start of it all as Chandler Bolt realised that the skills that he had built up were transferable and most importantly teachable.
So he began teaching other college students to run their own successful businesses, which led him to receive the “Entrepreneur of the Year” award from Young Entrepreneurs Across America.
He now speaks to students across the country teaching them the lessons he’s learned as a young entrepreneur and encouraging them to take the entrepreneurial leap.
So how has he managed to take the leap of faith that for many seems too big to handle?
How did he persuade a bunch of 17 year olds to work for him…..I cant get my kids to do anything even if I pay them!
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs with the one and only Chandler Bolt
During the show we discussed such weighty topics such as:
The fear is the key to everything. Conquer your fears and you will see huge improvements in your life!
How when you are in a job and you feel tired all the times, its a good indicator that you are in the wrong job!
How Chandler Bolt feels totally unemployable and knows he couldn’t work for other people!
When you are living an undisciplined life, it really takes a huge amount of discipline!
How he dropped out of high school, and would do it again every time….no regrets!
How To Connect With Chandler Bolt
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Audio Transcription For Chandler Bolt Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes. Hello there. Good morning. Everybody out there in join up dots land. How are we this is Episode 112, hundred and 12. I just feel really passionate. It’s funny, because I’ve been doing these shows all day after nine back to back. And you kind of know, and I suppose it’s the theme of the show when you’re doing something that is your unique self. But you don’t get tired. It’s a real weird feeling. And I’m sure we’re going to touch on that with our guest today. Because he is somebody that seems to have a lot of zig and zag in him. He is a mover and shaker. And he’s an entrepreneur from how really, he’s another example of someone who seems to have been born with the skills to make their own money at a very early age, while his friends were going the normal route to get jobs by creating resumes and attending interview after interview. He had other ideas, he realized that the only person who was going to get wealthy in that scenario would be the employer, not the employee. So he set off on an entrepreneurial path to start making his own money. And it quite an early age to at the age of 11, you could find him selling his personal snacks at scout camp. And by age of 17. He had hired his friends to help him operate his landscaping business, but earned him 10 grand for college. All you know, this is amazing. By age 20, he started and ran over 320,000 in businesses. But that was just the start of it always he realized that the skills that he had built up were transferable, and most importantly, teachable. So he began teaching other college students to run their own successful businesses, which led him to receive the Entrepreneur of the Year award from young entrepreneurs across America. And he now speaks to students across the country, teaching them the lessons he’s learned as a young entrepreneur, and encouraging them to take the entrepreneurial leap. So question time, how has he managed to take the leap of faith himself, but many seems too big to handle? And how did he persuade a bunch of 17 year olds to work for him? I can’t get my kids to do anything, even if I pay him? Well, let’s find out as we start join up dots with the one and only Chandler bolt. How are you Chandler?
Chandler Bolt [2:30]
Great David that was a heck of an introduction. I don’t know if I know that guy.
David Ralph [2:36]
I’m running out of energy. But it’s true. Actually, you know, I’ve been doing this since nine o’clock this morning is now just gone over nine o’clock at night. And if you are doing something that you believe is providing value, or is your your thing that you should be doing, you kind of don’t get tired until you stop. And then if you don’t count,
Chandler Bolt [2:57]
did you find another feeling? I definitely a feeling I’m in the middle of one of those right now. And I’ve been in some pretty intense, intense phases of that before. Like when some of my first businesses I’m sure we’ll talk about,
David Ralph [3:11]
I look back on my life. Now when I would be sitting there at like half past nine in the morning thinking God, I’m tired, I need a coffee. And I think really looking back on it with the knowledge I’ve got. Now, that was a clue. That was a big clue, but I wasn’t in the right place. But you just don’t know at that time, you just don’t know that your energy level should be higher. Because it’s just what you do for a living. It’s just the job you go to do you see lots of people in that same kind of state when you’re talking to them. And they’re just kind of submerged in this kind of apathy and tiredness that really believe age by shouldn’t be failing.
Chandler Bolt [3:48]
Oh, for sure. It’s one of those things where so I obviously tried Try not to surround myself with people like that, because that’s not inspiring at all. But when when he does not have found a lot of people like that, and it’s it’s really one of those things where I think if if you don’t wake up and just want to jump out of bed in the morning to do what you’re doing, then you’re probably doing the wrong thing. You’re probably not doing what your heart really wants you to do and what you know you should be doing.
David Ralph [4:14]
I used to think to myself, is another moaning and now thing Yes, it’s another morning. So that that’s good, isn’t it?
Chandler Bolt [4:22]
Yeah. It’s like I hear somebody say another day, another dollar, and I just want to shoot them. Like, that’s just I that seems miserable.
David Ralph [4:31]
Yeah, I agree with that. Good. Now, you have been somebody who’s quite interested in the dollars by revenue, you know, even at an early age, he was flexing your hustle muscle, and setting bits and bobs at scout camp and hiring your friends. And so money obviously is something that sets you a light, but is only part of the story with you, isn’t it?
Chandler Bolt [4:51]
Oh, for sure. It’s, you know, honestly, money has never been the end goal. And I’ve always just enjoyed the game. I’m, I’m pretty much unemployable. So just when I got that first taste of the early age of making my own money, and then kind of kept leveling up and leveling up, and each time I got a little bigger taste and making my own money, I was just, I just thought to myself, like I can never, never go back to, to working for someone and having someone control my destiny. Like I just love the fun of building things from nothing. And knowing that the end of the day, what I created is putting money in my pocket. And I don’t I don’t save money, I’d make decisions based on my personal growth. But like the money is a good part of it. But I think it’s it’s more of the fact that I just love the game. I love just how much more fun it is now, it’s like the entrepreneurial roller coaster.
David Ralph [5:41]
So you would say that you would totally unemployable now?
Chandler Bolt [5:46]
I think so. I feel like I would make a miserable employee unless it was a really cool company that and they could put me in a fun maybe marketing job or somewhere where I was almost like an entrepreneur, like, you probably heard of that, like an entrepreneur inside of a business and they kind of give you some freedom and give you like, let you give you some reins unless you run with it. That would probably be the only way.
David Ralph [6:10]
That’s actually one of my pet hates that people stick printer after everything. Now don’t don’t you. So open year entrepreneur into pioneer. It just seems to be the key thing to stick that on the end of any word and make a new word of it.
Unknown Speaker [6:24]
It’s a buzzword, right.
David Ralph [6:26]
I heard one of the entrepreneurs Yeah, lifestyle premier. Now you don’t have lifestyle panettiere you can have lifestyle list or lifestyle designer, but you can’t just put it on the end of that.
Chandler Bolt [6:38]
I think I think it’s everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. So it’s it’s kind of a hot thing right now. And yeah, they see this glamorous lifestyle, so they want it.
David Ralph [6:48]
But it’s it’s not glamorous I I went into this with the open eyes of a child basically. And I was over 40, I should have known better. I didn’t appreciate how much work goes into being an entrepreneur is frightening. I heard a stat the other day or a phrase. And I’ve used this before. And I think it’s so apt, but an entrepreneur is somebody who will willingly work 100 hours a week for themselves, because they won’t work 40 hours a week for somebody else. And that’s about it, isn’t it?
Chandler Bolt [7:20]
Yeah, that sounds about right.
David Ralph [7:22]
Did you do you ever have times when you sort of look at it? And you go, No, actually, I just need to get away from this. Because when you are in your frame of work, kind of life and play becomes one and one in the same. So do you ever have times when you go now I really need to separate myself and get some distance between my my day to day working habits.
Chandler Bolt [7:44]
Definitely I it definitely becomes a point in Yeah, it’s weird. I was talking with someone the other day. And it’s we’re talking about how it really takes an extreme amount of self discipline to live the undisciplined life that we live as entrepreneurs, and especially like working from your home, like, it’s weird how it takes discipline, to not have any discipline, you know, like, I have to be super disciplined and to you know, wake up early, focus on my business, all that stuff. But at the same time, I can make undisciplined choices, like I can go wherever I want, whenever I want, you know, all those options are available. And I can just hop on a plane in and take a vacation or you know, all that stuff. But at the end of the day it is it is a little bit tough. And we talked about that in our book, the productive person, kind of like the entrepreneurs work life balance, and how that such as a tough thing. It’s a tough thing to balance. So you really have to be pretty strict with yourself. And make sure that you have that work life balance I’m I’m kind of I go after my dad in the sense that I’m a little bit of lean on the workaholic side. So I love to have fun. But I’m also will work till I drop. So I have to remind myself of that as well.
David Ralph [8:55]
So you never have a time on say like a Tuesday afternoon when you think are lie on the sofa with me hands down me trousers and watch Bucky six or something?
Chandler Bolt [9:06]
Ah, Daddy, I definitely do. It’s, it’s not a whole lot. But you know, it’s, it’s those times that I don’t know, what I’ve found is that when I do that, like when I do that kind of stuff, it’s usually when I’m avoiding something really important. And I’m avoiding something that really needs to get done. So those are kind of like, triggers to me, like when I check my email for like a lot, or when I start getting on Facebook or doing all those kind of just getting my mind away from work, that’s usually a sign that the next task on my plate is probably pretty important and pretty high leverage. So it’s going to take some effort. So that’s why I’m trying to distract myself.
David Ralph [9:42]
And when you find yourself watching rocky five, it must be a really big thing you’re trying to get away from. Because Yeah, that was a bad one minute.
Chandler Bolt [9:51]
Yeah, so that would that would be a huge sign that that’s what I’m about to do is pretty, pretty important.
David Ralph [9:58]
So this is part of what you do. Sure, your college kids really, that you have to become disciplined, you have to do is not easy. You know, we this show is very much about the leap of faith, it’s very much about following your path and finding your true passions and inspiring people not settle. And as we always say, if you’re in a job and you love it being great, you know, do it even better. So you love it even more. But if you’re not in a job that you like, or even if you’re in a relationship and your boyfriend or your girlfriend are doing in nutty, then he don’t want to be there anymore. You have got options, and you can change and he’s not going to kill you, is it?
Chandler Bolt [10:35]
Yeah, no, that’s totally. And when we’re working with colleges, not growers, I mean, to it, that’s the one thing we we say before we even bring them on to coach was like, hey, look, this is going to be really hard, there’s gonna be times where you’re going to hate it, it’s going to be really rough. But at the end of the day, you’re really going to love it. And it’s gonna change your life. And, you know, we’re, I’m real big proponent of work hard play hard. So when it’s like, you know, we work in with our guys is, hey, you show up, you do your work. And we work very smart, and we work efficient, and we go just 90 miles an hour, but then when we cut off from work, we’re off. And it’s kind of a work hard play hard mentality.
David Ralph [11:19]
So so let’s share with the listeners what you actually do for a living because it’s it’s kind of unclear. Obviously, you’re an entrepreneur, you teach younger kids and college graduates how to become an entrepreneur. But how do you actually earn your money, then?
Chandler Bolt [11:36]
Yeah, so in the past, I’ve done so I kind of one of the places I got my start, which I’m sure we’ll talk about this later is in is through an internship program that teaches college students how to run their own business. And it’s through an exterior painting businesses the way way they teach them. And basically, it’s like, the whole motto is teach students how to run a business by actually running a business, a crazy concept, I know. But it’s, you know, it’s a painting business. And the reason they do painting is because it’s number one, it’s seasonal. So when college students are out of school is when people need paint jobs, too, is it’s a higher margins. And then three is the fact that it’s, it’s not too, too crazy hard to teach. So you can teach someone painting fairly easily. So that’s what we did. And I got my start there ran like a six figure businesses a freshman in college, and got number one in the company like for the whole country. And that was like a big milestone for me, where I really gained confidence, like, wow, I can do this. And then the next year, they brought me back and I taught a few other college students how to run their own business. And then that like they all did well. And they kind of have like a rewards cruise at the end of the year. And so that was always a fun moment is like all three of my guys got on the rewards cruise, which means they ran over a $55,000 business, they all got on this cruise. And it was awesome to just have all my guys there and just celebrate and look back on how much they had grown over the past few months, how much I grown as a leader and a mentor and all those things. And it’s just a remarkable experience. But it really is like the whole work hard play hard, like we worked really hard. But we also had a lot of fun. And it was cool, this inspiring opportunity to be around so many. It was for the first time in my life where I was around so many inspiring people. And I’d always found like in business, you know, it’s kind of like the big fish in a small pond. And then student painters is like I was so challenged, because there were just just other people that were actually weird, like I was, you know, had that itch to run their own business. And so that was a fun experience. And then since then, you know, just been working on some other businesses and put out a couple best selling books and, you know, kind of been working with people marketing on that. And then we just launched a program now where we’re taking people from going from book idea to bestseller in three months. So we’ve kind of got a system that we’ve gotten, we’re really good at the marketing part. And then we also have a system for writing. So we help people out with that as well.
David Ralph [14:16]
So once you learn this chocolate, is it just kind of gut intuition? Or is it something you’ve studied? Or are you looking at other movers and shakers and taking the best of them? Each of them?
Chandler Bolt [14:28]
Yeah, I would say it’s a little bit, a little bit of it was maybe subconscious growing up, because my dad ran a business. It was a construction business. And I saw how hard he worked. And I also saw just how much freedom he could have as an entrepreneur, you know, he could make it to all my baseball games, and football games and all that and he could, like, my mom could come as well, we could go on vacation, when other people would have to work. And it was I just I think I saw that. And I was like, wow, I really want that freedom one day. And I want to create that freedom and kind of create that lifestyle for my family. And I think subconsciously that was kind of instilled in me when I was younger. And then as I grew up, it was just, I was infatuated with it. And especially now you know, I’m studying a lot and studying top marketers and reading books and all that stuff. But more than that, you know, just just really going after what I want.
David Ralph [15:25]
Because that’s quite aware, I would have thought a quite an early age because I obviously feel that now because I’ve got kids. And there was a moment my life where I couldn’t go to any plays or any school sports days or whatever. Because I was at work, and I just couldn’t get the time. Yeah. And I was very aware that I was missing out on stuff. That’s one of the reasons why I took the leap of faith. And I’ve created this to get some sort of time freedom. But yeah, a younger person before you get kids to be able to look at and be aware that your dad is bad. And it’s it’s unusual, because most dads actually at work and they haven’t got that opportunity. I think that’s quite clued up.
Chandler Bolt [16:03]
Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, David and I think honestly, the biggest thing that keeps people from taking that leap, is that they don’t know what’s possible. And in their mind, it seems impossible. So like, some people will hear what I’ve done, or like about me running a business, you know, like, I’m still only 21 I’m still really young. But some people will hear about that. And they just think, wow, that’s insane. But to me, it doesn’t seem that crazy, you know, like, I have friends here. And he, he was telling me about how all you’ve ever been around was people who were driven to work towards corporate. And he went to school for that got an MBA, and he’s surrounded by people. And it talks about how inspiring it was to be around me and my other friends who are entrepreneurs. And like, just how that just, I you can literally see it in his eyes how the belief just starts to turn. Because when you start to surround yourself by people that are doing it, you start to actually believe that it’s possible.
David Ralph [17:00]
Absolute Truth. But how do people do that? If they’re in a job, where they’re surrounded by moaning minis, and it’s a negative environment, and I’ve been in jobs where you meet somebody at the coffee machine, and you say, You are right. And like I would be if I wasn’t here, or a bill and all that kind of stuff. How can people surround themselves with positive, enthusiastic go getters, if their their surroundings? Isn’t, isn’t littered with that?
Chandler Bolt [17:28]
Yeah, that’s a great question David and I’ve got an answer for that. I think people might not like but it’s it’s a true answer. And that’s just the fact that you have to work at it. And the chances are people who are inspiring unless you live in, in a place, that’s an entrepreneurial hub, chances are, they’re probably not in your city, there’s probably a few of them that you’re really going to have to look for. And you have to put yourself in this those situations, but chances are, they’re in other cities as well. So the thing I would say is conferences really helped. So that means you actually have to pony up and pay some money to go to a conference, it’ll be the best investment you’ve ever made in your life. And for $1,000. Maybe less, maybe more people see that and they think, Oh my gosh, that’s insane. But and yet, people pay 10 $20,000 a year to go to college, where you, in my opinion, you don’t learn half or like I learned way more at a conference than I probably would have set whole semester of college. And it’s only 1000 or 2000 the very most, unless you’re going to like a big conference. But I would suggest going to conferences, going to the entrepreneur meetups, locally, they do exist, you can check meetup.com, you can see meetups of startup entrepreneurs. And really, there’s a ton of ways but you just have to actually put yourself in those uncomfortable positions, like they probably won’t be comfortable at first, because you’re going to feel like, you’re the only guy at the show who’s not an entrepreneur, but put yourself out there. And what you’ll find is that entrepreneurs in those communities love it. They love meeting people who they feel like they can help to get their freedom and help them get out of their corporate job or whatever. Like that. I know I love it. And those are some of my favorite people, because they’re inspiring to see them kind of taking little mini leaps of faith, faith themselves, and inspires me to take bigger leaps in my business.
David Ralph [19:21]
It’s amazing nowadays, vo that you can create confidence, you can create champions across the globe. Because when I started this, there was one show that inspired me to do this. And I mentioned it all the time. And it’s called the solo printer hour with Michael O’Neill. And he was cool. He was guest number 100. So if you listen back to guest number 100, then he was the man. And during that show, I used to drop comments on there because I was very inspired by the content he was doing. And another chap, Dwayne Scott, big, big shout out to Duane, he started commenting, and we kind of got friendly over there. Now, we contact each other on Facebook, and out of all the people on earth. He’s the one that supports me the most. And he’s the one that challenges me, and he’s the one that sort of pushes me on. And he’s friendship means the world to me. And that’s another example of being able to find positive, enthusiastic support. in an online environment. You don’t actually have to go to real people, you can go to these people that maybe you’ve never even met them, and maybe you never will. But you can build up this friendship. And it’s so so powerful. So Facebook groups really, really useful. And if you’re looking for some kind of, I don’t know, entrepreneurial venture, look on Facebook, and I betcha there’s gonna be a group there with like minded people that will help you along.
Chandler Bolt [20:44]
Yeah, that’s a great point David and that’s funny, I think I’m, we got an interview with him in like a week and a half or something. But with Michael, but uh, one, one thing I wanted to say on that is like, I forcefully put that into my life. Well, like, I live in entrepreneur house right now. And it’s a house full of entrepreneurs. So it’s people who are living the same lifestyle, and they inspire me every day, they inspire me to be healthier, to grow my business, they helped me with that stuff. Like we brainstorm on that, you know, it’s like, it’s not just all about business, like, we have fun, we get healthy, we, you know, just all that stuff, too. But it’s like we’re all here helping each other grow and grow our businesses. And you probably heard the quote is the Jim Rome quote, of you know, you are the average of the five people you surround yourself with. And I couldn’t believe in that more. If you take your income, and average, the five, your five closest friends, usually your even your income will fall right in the middle of that. So just hanging out with people who want to who are where you want to be, or who inspire you. That’s so huge. It’s so important, important enough for me that I moved across the country to be in this entrepreneur house. And in three weeks, I’m about to move across the country again, to start up another entrepreneur house,
David Ralph [22:03]
you know that that is really go getting, isn’t it? Because I you know, I beat myself up a bit. But I spent so many years going through the motions. As I see now, I thought I was building a career. And I was working up in the City of London, and I was going up every single day to try to build a career. Now I look back on it with new eyes. And I think to myself, I was building the wrong career, I should have been doing this. But even that I was going I was in a routine. And you don’t seem to have a routine, you seem to be able to take the steps back your age. And I mean that were the greatest respect as a 21 year old, I wouldn’t have been anywhere near that setting up a house and setting up businesses and all that kind of stuff. Are you absolutely fearless? Or does it still scare you when you think I’m comfortable in this house? I’ve been here for a while I like this, but they’re not gonna throw it up in the air and go off and do something else does that not kind of make you think I want to stay here a little bit longer. I David
Chandler Bolt [23:02]
it scares the crap out of me. But it’s, you know, it’s one of those things where I just know I gotta do it. And I was actually talking with one of the guys in the house here. And it’s tough the last two times or last two or three times I’ve moved. It’s tough because you know, you have a bunch of friends in the really getting plugged in. And yeah, it’s tough. But, and yes, it scares me for sure. But what I’ve kind of found is that, if when that happens, that’s a huge sign that it’s actually something I need to do. Because when I push myself out of my comfort zone like that and set myself up for failure, then it I’ve never done that. And it not be an amazing experience and something in like changed my life and taught me so much. So that definitely happens. And I’m, I wouldn’t consider myself a risky person. But you know, so like, I don’t know, it’s one thing that I continue to try to work on. It’s like, all right, I want to take more risks like that, I want to, I want to do more stuff like that push myself out of my comfort zone, because I know that every time I do it, it just it just blows my mind and changes my life.
David Ralph [24:08]
It makes me say well now astonishes me I was going to be quiet, gentlemen, but now astonishes me that I’m having these conversations on a daily basis. And all these people are very successful in their fields. And they literally are doing exactly the same things. They are looking after themselves physically making sure that they’re healthy and fit, were self developing themselves. They are surrounding themselves with positive people, they are living right on the edge of fear. And knowing that fear is the thing that will will allow you to grow by conquering that and moving you into new areas. And it seems amazing that if somebody isn’t listening to these shows day after day after day, but they’re not picking up with these traits, and think to themselves, yeah, this is the blueprint, this is the blueprint, all of its find my area. And these guys, these ladies, he’s already telling me what I need to do. But they don’t. People don’t and they kind of obstacles. It’s madness, isn’t it?
Chandler Bolt [25:09]
Yeah. And honestly David it’s one of those things where I think so many of your listeners right now they know what they want to do, and they know how to do it, they just can’t get themselves out of their head. And they can’t actually they just like they’re so deep in their head that they’re just not taking action on it. And they’re scared of failure. So they because they know they probably know what they need to do. But there’s a difference between knowing and doing.
David Ralph [25:35]
I would have been scared of you channel about over 100 episodes ago, I would have thought Oh, Chandler, Chandler bolt, he’s an entrepreneur, he’s 20. You know, why would he want to talk to me? And just the fact that you’ve got like a superhero name Ave john lipo. I’ve kind of spent the afternoon sort of saying your name. I don’t know why, who you’re speaking to. I’m speaking to Chantal up Oh, wow. It’s got that kind of connotation to it. I would have been terrified to speak to you at the very beginning. And now I’m 100 shows in, I wouldn’t care if Richard Branson was on you know, it’s just another person. It’s that you overcome those fears in your head that hold you in place. And we should really look at those fears. And it’s true, you it’s almost like a compass. Because when you are scared of something that is only because it’s new. And unless you conquer those newness, those new fears, then you’re going to stay where you are it that’s that’s obvious as well, isn’t it?
Chandler Bolt [26:35]
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more David and I mean, think think about it. How did you actually like the points illustrated perfectly there with with your podcast is, is how did you get to the point you’re at now,
David Ralph [26:47]
step by step by step, the very first thing I had to do was overcome the fear of speaking on the mic. When I had to overcome the fear of actually reaching out and saying to people, will you come on the show? I haven’t. Anything, you don’t know who I am. I don’t know if it’s going to be a success. But I’d like you to be on the show. That was a big one. Yeah. And then once I got into it, I had fear all the way through. And even when I got to the point of 1015, 2030 episodes recorded, I still didn’t fancy launching them. Because I’ve always not going to work when I got to 50. And funnily enough, when I got to about under know about 40, I hit this this wobble period, and I don’t know what it was, I should have eased into it by that time, but it was almost like the nervous energy that I had taken to get it going. I then had to justify it by keeping it going. And that was the hardest part is that kind of make sense. It was like, it was my effort that I put in. But I suddenly thought to myself, am I Alberta keep this effort going to maintain it?
Chandler Bolt [27:50]
Yeah, yeah. So how would you say that you got over got over those fears, like the fears of Call of asking people to get on the show of recording on the mic. And like all that stop just doing it
David Ralph [28:01]
just simply simply doing it. I can’t put it more in there. The very first email that I sent out, I actually sent to elton john, because I knew that he wouldn’t respond. I knew it would go off into wherever it goes into elton john land, and I’m not going to get a response. And of course I didn’t. But it made me realize, Oh, I press that. And then the next one I did, I got a response. And then the next one. So I kind of overcome that fear. And it is I’m still frightened on the daily basis of doing this. I’m frightened. But when I connect with somebody, it’s going to be dreadful. And out of 150. I’ve had one that was dreadful, absolutely dreadful. And I stopped it halfway through. And I said to the person, this isn’t working, this is this is dreadful. And the person was yawning all the way through to show and back kind of thing. So I just pulled it pulled up on it. But yeah, it generally, if you if you think that is going to go well, and you put your effort into as much as you possibly can, people will respond and people will respond in a supportive way that helps you overcome those fears. That’s what I think now.
Chandler Bolt [29:07]
For sure. I that’s a that’s a great story, David and I honestly, man, I couldn’t, I couldn’t agree more I have, I thought I was thinking on this exact this exact conversation that we’re having right now, a couple days ago, and I came up with this quote, just kind of came into my head, it was this idea that content without context is useless. And really, because I was thinking back to my business, and student painters, and just all these different things. And I realized that just just doing even when I didn’t know what I was doing, that’s why I’m successful. And just doing student painters, when I came back to my business classes, my business classes became a lot more interesting. I learned more from my business classes, because I had context, I had something to relate to. So when the professor was teaching on a special lesson, I could say, Oh, I don’t remember this customer where that happened. I remember this employee where that happened, all that stuff. So I think people just overload themselves with content, and they don’t take action, which is is just pointless, because unless you have some context for the stuff you’re listening to. So like, unless, unless you’re reading a book about something you’re currently doing, then it’s not. There’s no point in reading the book, because there’s no context for you to use it with.
David Ralph [30:27]
I’m going to play you a little speech. And I want you to tell me what you think about this. This is a very short one haven’t listened to this.
Jim Carrey [30:34]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you do.
Unknown Speaker [31:01]
But even in that,
Chandler Bolt [31:02]
that’s great. I’ve heard that Who is that?
David Ralph [31:04]
That is Jim Carrey, the comedian Jim Carrey.
Unknown Speaker [31:07]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Ralph [31:09]
Because you’re doing what you love. You. You love your life at the moment.
Chandler Bolt [31:15]
Oh, yeah. I love it, man. It’s great.
David Ralph [31:18]
So So why did you take that risk? As he saying, it’s easier to fail always as easy to find on things you don’t like? So you might as well take a chance on what you love.
Chandler Bolt [31:29]
Yeah, why did you? I just couldn’t see it any other way? I really couldn’t. And to me, it was it would, it was worse to not try and live my life with regret than it was to try and fail. I would rather so like when I made the decision to drop out of school. I would rather had that happen and fail and may have to go back to school, then finish school out and and wonder and wish what would have happened if I was stopped doing something? I hate it.
David Ralph [31:58]
And do you regret dropping out? Let’s go.
Chandler Bolt [32:01]
Not one bit.
David Ralph [32:02]
So do you not have because in our sort of education system, you generally will go through all the years until you get a series of exams and you can get a qualification in maths, you can get a qualification in geography, you can get a qualification in back. So you can kind of come out of an education system with very weird qualifications. But my understanding of the Americans is unless you go all the way through, you don’t graduate and that’s you don’t come out with a diploma. And that’s right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Education is not finished.
Chandler Bolt [32:32]
Yeah, now. So I mean, I’m weirded. And that was actually a nervous thing for me when I dropped out is like, I didn’t want to tell people I dropped out because people hear you’re a college dropout. And they think you’re a loser. I think like, Oh, you just dropped out because you couldn’t handle it. And you’re probably not doing anything with your life. So like, that was that was like a fear of mine. You know, like, I would just, and I actually studied abroad before I dropped out because I wanted to travel some. And so I just would i would tell people that I just just got back from studying abroad and went and tell them that I dropped out.
David Ralph [33:04]
What What did your mom and dad say when you said you were going to drop out?
Chandler Bolt [33:08]
Um, at first they questioned it. Like, I think any good parents should they really questioned it asked me what, why I wanted to do that. I think they definitely wanted me to stay in school, because neither one of them graduated college. And so they definitely wanted me to stay at school and first, but then they realized that I was very serious about it. And then they just had faith in me that they just knew that I wasn’t just going to drop out and just, you know, just not do anything. They knew that it was it was something that I was really passionate about, and that I was actually going after what I loved. And I put a lot of a lot of thought into it. I like talked to a lot of my mentors, I prayed about it. Like, I just really, really put a lot into the decision. It wasn’t just off of a whim.
David Ralph [33:56]
Did you ever think you will go back and finish your qualifications? Because that my understanding is people do that as well?
Chandler Bolt [34:03]
Yes, um, some people do. I don’t think I ever will. I went to school to learn to learn how to run a business and and learn more about business that I knew that’s what I wanted. And I just thought to myself, like, oh, finally a chance to learn business. Like in high school, I didn’t get to learn as much about business like finally a chance I can take business classes. And then I then I got putting all these prerequisite classes that I hated, like sciences and all that. And I was like, well, this is not fun. And I don’t know, I just eventually reached a point where it’s like, I came to came to college, not for the degree but for the learning. And so when the learning wasn’t that good, it didn’t make sense to me anymore. And when when I was I kind of came to this realization, I was learning so much through the businesses, I was running, and I was in a kind of a program that teaches you how to start a software company, and I was learning all this stuff from outside of school. And, and, and for people who had ran a business before. And then I realized, like, in school, I’m learning how to run a business from someone who’s never ran a business. And that didn’t really make much sense to me. So that was kind of a big point for me where I was like, Yeah, I should probably just drop out.
David Ralph [35:14]
Because I have a problem now with the education system. And I’ve mentioned this a few of the episodes, that there is a lot to be said about education, you know, you need to be able to read, you need to be able to write you need to be able to count and all those kind of stuff. But do you really need to know what the Romans did? And do you really need to know what, how to speak Latin and all that kind of stuff? Yeah, I think this there’s a lot of it. But I would much rather my kids go through. And they focus in on the kind of life skills that the things that you would need when you actually come out because I don’t use half of this. I don’t even think I use 10% of the stuff that I learned when I was at school. But I’m still trying to support my kids insights. Yeah, you need to go through and work hard and get your qualifications because it’s the right thing to say. But deep down I think every adult listening to this will go Yeah, to be honest. How much am I using about I learned at school?
Chandler Bolt [36:13]
Oh, yeah, it’s just street smarts. I always thought that growing up in school is like, I would see my friends get better grades and then or get get better grades than me. And I’d be like, Oh, well, I have street smarts, which is what’s really important. I know, I know a little bit about business and like, I can survive out in the real world. So like, I don’t know, I think I always use that to kind of justify, like may not getting as good grades. But I’m a firm believer in that street smarts are so much more important than then book smarts because you have to, you have to in the real world, learn how to adapt, how to talk to people how to do all these things. That by doing you’re going to learn not by a textbook?
David Ralph [36:54]
Is that just in Bilbo being weekly over here, street savvy and street smart? Is that just kind of Austrian wise? is about just kind of being built? Is that an inherent talent that you have? Or can you develop it,
Chandler Bolt [37:07]
I think you can definitely develop it. It’s one of those it comes from doing. So if you want to be if you want to have more street smarts, just put yourself in those uncomfortable situations like we were talking about earlier.
David Ralph [37:19]
So it’s all about conquering your fear to be able to get a kick ass life. It is about dreaming big, taking the leaps of faith, doing the things that are uncomfortable, and just keep on working on it, working at it working at it, getting past your failures and hitting successes. And then hopefully you get more successes, you’ll get a load more failures, but ultimately, you will end up Fingers crossed with where in the place that you should be Is it is it as simple as that or am I making it as a sort of naive statement.
Chandler Bolt [37:53]
I think it’s as simple as that David and I think if you ever get to a point where you’re super comfortable, that’s that’s when everything kind of grinds to a halt it for me I mean, I like being really really comfortable and just settling and, and not have any having anything to work towards that just that just seems pretty boring. Like there’s always fun stuff. There’s always situations you can put yourself into that you’re going to grow and you’re going to have a lot of fun and so for me at least that’s what’s life life’s all about is experiencing having fun and, and and the newness that comes from like just jumping headfirst into crazy ridiculous things and, and, and crazy, ridiculous goals and just fun stuff you want to do.
David Ralph [38:39]
I chatted to a bloke and I’ve chatted to Well, what we say blokes over here and I’ve been told you in America, you say guys and stuff. But I was talking to a guy who he dreams big. And Ben he dreams bigger. And he is a total believer now. But the bigger you dream, the actual easier it is to achieve is a real kind of goes against logic, just purely because people do not dream as big as us. So if you dream bigger than anyone, you’ve got less competition.
Chandler Bolt [39:10]
Yeah, who are you talking to you on that?
David Ralph [39:12]
That was a gentleman on episode 82 called Eric James. And I keep telling this story is one of my favorite stories. Now I wax lyrical, but very, very quickly, because I’m sure our listeners have heard this many, many times. But this guy, he decided that he wanted to go up to space a playwright,
Chandler Bolt [39:31]
poker player. Yeah, I know, Eric. Yeah. Do you know Eric? Yeah, he’s a friend of mine. Oh,
David Ralph [39:35]
So he’s now going up to space with Richard Branson always put himself in a 5050 position to get into space. And by taking like five or six steps, where he plotted them down and just took action. And he got to a band. And Branson said, Yeah, you’re only the second person who has asked to do this. Now that kind of blows my mind. And it’s the most amazing story. You know, I keep on telling to everyone, even if I don’t want to hear it, yeah. Because it kind of your logical side goes, now Hang on, hang on, this is never gonna happen. That’s too big. But then he’s gone for it. And everyone else is not. And so he gets what he wants.
Chandler Bolt [40:16]
Yeah, he snuck into that. he snuck into that Richard Branson gathering, and then got to talk to him, and pitched him on that. And that’s how he got that.
David Ralph [40:24]
Yeah. And he was crazy. Yeah, he was in a room full of other people that have all kind of managed to get in as well. And Richard Branson comes in, and he kind of knows everyone’s pulled a fast one and managed to get past the security guys and stuff. And yeah, it was he’s hustlers.
Chandler Bolt [40:41]
And there’s a lesson there. Notice, that’s who he wants to talk to. Those are the guys who he wants. He wants to be in a room with the guys who hustled and snuck in.
David Ralph [40:49]
That’s brilliant. I mean, it’s, I get excited thinking about it. So how do you know, Eric that
Chandler Bolt [40:55]
I met him at an event out in Colorado? So kind of bring it full circle? We talked about a meeting, you know, like, how do you surround yourself with people like that? Like, I went to a conference and it wasn’t cheap. And it was a kind of a leap of faith for me. I was like, Man, it’s a lot of money. This is after I dropped out of school how much I two grand.
Unknown Speaker [41:19]
So it isn’t that that is a long
Chandler Bolt [41:21]
Yeah. I mean, for like for a for a college dropout, who’s barely scraping by living off the savings and starting a new business. Like that was that was a good day for me at the time, you know. And so I spent that and, and that was just for the conference that wasn’t for, you know, the plane ticket out there and all that stuff. So, and my moms, like, Oh, my gosh, Chandler $2,000. Like, that’s like, What? She couldn’t believe it. And then I met so many amazing people I met Eric I met, like, that’s conferences already paid for itself. So many times over. Just it hasn’t been that long since I’ve been there. It’s already it’s already paid. So
David Ralph [42:00]
you invest in yourself.
Chandler Bolt [42:02]
Yeah. And I love that you said that David and the whole fact about going for big dreams, because I always think back to the four hour workweek, which totally blew my mind and rocked my world as a college student, and an entrepreneur. And I think about how he said, he illustrates the point great in there where he says, big, big dreams and bold dreams are more likely to happen than smaller ones, because so he referenced like, okay, you’re going to maybe take a trip to Ohio, or you might take a trip to Hawaii. And both are going to involve an equal amount of planning, which one do you think’s going to fall through the trip to Ohio probably is because you’re not nearly as excited about it. So it’s actually when you when you’re going after bigger things, there’s less competition and more of a chance that it will actually happen. They also reference like, you walk into a bar, and you look around, and there’s a bunch of a bunch of sevens. And then there’s one, just smoking hot 10 off the charts. Beautiful, beautiful girl. And it’s this really hit home for me because I’m a guy, but just the fact that the competition for all the sevens is actually way higher, because all guys are like, Oh, I can never get that girl. She’s way out of my league. So I’m not even going to try. So the competition is actually harder for the set. It’s like so but if you actually went for the beautiful girl that you really wanted to talk to the competition’s way less and there’s a better chance to actually get her.
David Ralph [43:31]
I’ve got theory on this as well. You’ve got me all excited Chandler bolt. Now, if you walk along the street, sometimes you see absolutely drop dead gorgeous women were the most ugly blokes that you’ve ever seen your life. And you think how the hell is that? And this is how it happens. I totally believe that in that scenario. normal looking gentlemen will walk into that place and go on, she’s out of my league, I will go for the sevens. But the ugly blow is so used to being turned down by everyone. He’s used to rejection. And so that the 10, who actually doesn’t get asked by anyone, because we all think she’s out of our league actually is sitting there quite lonely. So the upbeat bloke just steams in and he doesn’t care. She’s gonna say no anyway, and Oh, she doesn’t? She says yes. And that’s how it happens.
Chandler Bolt [44:21]
Yeah. That’s great.
David Ralph [44:24]
Is that that most truth you’ve ever had in an interview that that’s going to change your life, isn’t it?
Chandler Bolt [44:30]
For sure. And I think a lot of people listen in their jobs probably on the floor, and they might go talk to some beautiful women.
David Ralph [44:36]
That’s it. Let’s let’s, let’s create babies. That’s, that’s what we want. We want a baby boom across the world. And an old of them is going to be called Chandler and David, what about
Chandler Bolt [44:48]
this right, so from this interview, there might not be a lot of business started just a lot of babies porn.
David Ralph [44:54]
That’s not a bad life, though. Is it? Really? Oh, man, is that not what you want? So So what do you actually want? What do you what do you want in life now? Because I’m gonna play the Steve Jobs speech in a moment. But as you are at the moment, what do you want? Because you seem to be having your cake and eat it.
Chandler Bolt [45:15]
Yeah, oh, man, I want I want to push, I want to push it, I wanna, I want I want to really, really push and just have a lot of fun, grow my business. And honestly, I want to build an empire someday, I really want to build something that’s just when I leave this earth, it’s like, wow, that guy made a difference. And not he didn’t just rake in a pile of cash, but he made a difference. Like, he actually changed a lot of people’s life and lives in the world was better. Because he was here, that’s, that’s what I’m working towards. And also just raising a great family and, and teaching my kids some of the lessons we’re talking about on on this podcast that all these things are possible. And I don’t know, I just if I can inspire, if I can inspire others have a lot of fun. You know, get to do a lot of fun stuff, experience life, travel the world. All that stuff like that. That’s the end goal for me.
David Ralph [46:09]
You incredibly grounded for a 21 year old and and when you said your age, I was a bit taken by surprise, actually. Because you seem to be able to handle yourself in in many different situations that would would face most people, even older people.
Chandler Bolt [46:25]
Or thanks, I usually don’t lead with the age because I find that turns people off. So I try to impress them first, and then I’ll slip the age in the back.
David Ralph [46:34]
So just before I play Steve Jobs speech is there and I’m going to ask you afterwards, but I just want you to think about it. I asked most of our guests whether there is a big.in their life that they can look back and they can go Yes, that was the moment when Chandler bolt actually started becoming who he is. So I want you to just think about that while I play the words of Steve Jobs because we’re going to ask you about it afterwards. This is Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs [46:57]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [47:32]
So do those words to a 21 year old guy. I’m mean something did I make sense?
Chandler Bolt [47:39]
Definitely. I I’ve listened that speech before and and I even just listened to it right now. Like I’ve got the chills. It’s so amazing.
David Ralph [47:48]
What What is it that makes you chill? And if you can hear noise in the background, I’ve got this tremendous thunderstorm just occurring over my head at the moment. So if it’s, if it’s coming through on the mic, don’t, I’m going to be professional and get through it. But it’s getting a little bit scary. So So what is it that sends chills down you about that speech?
Chandler Bolt [48:08]
If it’s just crazy, because it’s like, it’s so true. And I can think back to it’s weird how so many dots were connected in my life. And it’s amazing to think that if I wouldn’t have taken that one opportunity how different my life would be, and how and just makes me just, I don’t know, it just makes me kind of think about how many things like that are zooming by us in our everyday life. And if you’re just stuck in that rut and stuck in something that you hate, you’re going to have your head down and you’re going to miss it. And that could be the thing that totally changes your life and 10 years on down the road is the thing that just look back and be like, wow, I could not imagine life without that happening. But you miss it if you’ve got your head down. And if you’re just miserable in what you’re doing.
David Ralph [48:56]
So do you have a big doctor? Do you have a moment in your life at you go? Yes, that is when channel about really started to become channel about.
Chandler Bolt [49:06]
Absolutely. And it took me two seconds to think of it. It was a no brainer. It’s it was when so freshman year of college, I went to went to college, I was really, really stoked to just get into college, learn about business and have a lot of fun, meet new people all that. And I was it was probably three months in I was extremely frustrated, maybe even two months. And it was I was just so frustrated. Because I felt like I wasn’t doing anything I wasn’t going anywhere. I wasn’t learning the things I really wanted to learn. And I just wasn’t wasn’t interested in any of my classes, all that. And so I was just in this really rough place where I had a lot of uncertainty. And I was thinking about transferring, thinking about going to a different school and just really just wasn’t very happy. And that’s when this opportunity came along. And that was the opportunity to work with suit of painters and Ramon business. And I kind of reluctantly said yes to that. It was something that on the surface should have been a no brainer. But I was like, Okay, yeah, I think I want to do this. And I committed to it. And I started running my business. And the next was a seven month Crash Course, I went from no business at all to a little over 100 grand and I just just crazy tons, tons of times of just trial and error and down in the dumps and like just a roller coaster of highs and super super super lows and just rough challenges. But I look back on that. And that’s the point that kind of kicked it off. And since then, I would not be where I’m at in my life, if it wasn’t for that internship, and if it wasn’t for the opportunity, and I can connect the dots to where my business partners now met him through student painters, the house I’m living in now met met those somehow through student painters, you know, like, it was like student painters that I went to conferences I wouldn’t have went to then I got into an incubator program to learn how to run a software business, that I met people there that I live with now, and great mentors, like, I wouldn’t have written my first book, because I wrote that with, with my mentor from that, from that program that wouldn’t probably wouldn’t have written my second book, I wouldn’t be running the business, I am now teaching other people how to write and market their own book. Like, it’s insane, to look back at all the things that just happened from that. And the funny thing is David that for that one moment, I had another internship. And all that started from one email, I got an email about this internship. And I told my buddy, who was living in the dorm with me, said, Hey, Aaron, I can’t go to this info session. But this sounds really cool. Can you check it out for me. And I got back from from work that day. And he showed all them information to me. And I was like, this looks amazing. I’m going to call the guy and he had his number. So I called him. And then I got I got an interview, and then it just kept going. And then I got a physician, all this stuff. It was just crazy how, you know, if I wouldn’t have saw that email, it wouldn’t happen. And if I wouldn’t have had the guts to call the guy out of the blue and say, Hey, I wasn’t at the info session, but I think you should give me an interview. I can tell when he had the guts to do that they wouldn’t have started and all those things that string off of that probably wouldn’t have dropped out of school. Like I can honestly go on all day. But I’m sure it would be pretty boring. So I’m sure you don’t want to hear it. But it’s just crazy. How many things stem off of that, that one leap of faith and that that one opportunity.
David Ralph [52:45]
I even find it madness that your channel about I’m David Ralph and there’s a bloke called Eric James that we both spoken to. And it just seems made that how that’s occurring. And I’m getting those little over time. And you could that yes, we’re speaking to sort of entrepreneurs and go getters and all that kind of stuff. But come on that’s free people on the whole planet and we we know each other.
Chandler Bolt [53:11]
Yeah. And then I think yet like you’re saying like Michael O’Neill I’m Be honest podcast in like a week and a half. Like, how crazy is that? Like? It’s really a small world?
David Ralph [53:22]
It certainly is. It certainly is. And let’s let’s take you back in time. Now, this is the end of the show. And this is the Sermon on the mic. And this is when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could walk into a room and meet the young channel about what would you say to him. So I’m going to play the music. And when it fades out your mouth, this is the Sermon on the mic.
Chandler Bolt [54:09]
That’s that’s awesome David I would, I would say hey, Chandler,
you’re younger than you are now, which is kind of crazy can hear already. You’re only 21 now. So you’re you’re young, you’re young guy. But you need to take chances you need to get out there and and go for what you really want and take risks. Because they’re really not, they’re really not that crazy as you might think they are when you actually get out there. So don’t be afraid Don’t play it safe. And chase after what you want to do. Because there’s so much out there that you’re not going to learn and your middle school, your high school, there’s, you’re going to learn that there’s maybe five, five things that you can do when you’re in high school and in middle school, but then you’re going to get out in the real world and realize that there’s a million jobs, and a million businesses that you can start. So just get out there and go after what you really want.
David Ralph [55:11]
And when you walk into a bar, and you see that hot 10 just steaming that
Chandler Bolt [55:17]
go right up to her and don’t hesitate,
David Ralph [55:20]
just go straight into her and she’ll be waiting for you. Um, yeah, Chandler are the biggest sort of credit that I can say to you. And the biggest praise that I would be proud if my son grows up to be like you, I think that you are setting your path. And you are taking responsibility for your future. And your you’re not taking an easy path. It’s a difficult path. But it will pay you back big time. And I think that you are an inspiration to just not me, but all parents who are raising their kids because there’s a right way of doing it. I personally believe that you’re doing it the right way.
Chandler Bolt [55:52]
Wow David that means a lot. Thank you so much. That’s that’s a huge compliment. So how is your kids your most important thing so that that really means a lot? Absolutely, it
David Ralph [56:02]
certainly is I want them to have a life that is interesting. And I know for many people and myself for many, many years, it wasn’t interesting, it was just a job. And it was where I went and what I did, and I want them and I now kind of think that it’s it’s the less risky choice. Creating your own path instead of going into a company where they can ultimately just get rid of you whenever they want. I think yeah now but to be streetwise and creating their future and having control of their own income producing production line. I think that is less risky now than it’s ever been. And it’s what I’m striving to encourage the world to do.
Chandler Bolt [56:43]
I couldn’t agree more man. And I just shameless plug. Like my parents, I owe the world to my parents. And they taught me just so much. And it’s amazing to see like, how they live their life and just lived in a out an example for me and my brother. And I actually because my brothers, he plays in rock and roll band that like they’re there. They travel around the world, like that’s, that’s his job. So we both kind of had success in totally different areas. But we realized that our parents, they really taught us the same 15 things. And even though he’s a rock and roll star, I’m a business guy. Like these 15 things were what kind of led to a lot of our success. And we wrote a book about it, it’s called breaking out of a broken system. It’s got all those in it and it’s got our are to like two different sides of the story. So Seth writes on those 15 things I write on him. So it’s like you as an artist, you can relate to him business guy, you can relate to me, you can read them both. But that was a charity project. So if if anybody out there wants to check out the book, like I don’t make any money off of it, we just did it as a charity project. And it’s actually buy one book, save one life. But that’s kind of, if you’re looking for some of those, like some of those things, as a parent, even that you can teach your kids that, that that’s just a great example of that. And those are like 15 just great things that our parents taught us.
David Ralph [58:06]
We will put the link on the show notes, and I’ll be honest, I was disappointed that your brother wasn’t Usain Bolt, I thought it was gonna be that
Chandler Bolt [58:14]
he’s my brother from another mother.
David Ralph [58:16]
Yeah, that would have been perfect. So how do our listeners actually connect with each other?
Chandler Bolt [58:21]
Yeah, so if they want to reach out, they can email me it’s Chandler at the productive person.com or just find me on Facebook Chandler bolt, that’s the best spot and I’m on there. And I mean, that’s an easy, easy place to keep up with people
David Ralph [58:37]
web over links on the show notes. Chandler, thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. It’s been absolutely inspirational to me. Please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining those dots and connecting our past it’s the best way to build our futures channel about thank you so much David
Chandler Bolt [58:56]
Thanks for having me. Man. This has been an amazing interview. Great job
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