Clint Arthur: How To Be A Celebrity In Your Industry

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David Ralph [0:40]
Yes, good afternoon. Good morning to you. Good evening. Whatever time you’re listening to this podcast. Thank you so much for being here. Well, today’s guest he’s joining us for the second time on the Join Up Dots podcast, and he’s going to be sharing his success in the world of celebrity entrepreneurship. He’s the best selling author of celebrity entrepreneurship breakthrough your upper limits on TV, and his new book wisdom of the men which is nominated for the 2022 Pulitzer Prize. Now he’s a serial successful multimillionaire entrepreneur, trusted marketing advisor, consultant and coach to 1000s of private entrepreneurial clients and business owners running enterprises from 1 million to 1 billion in size. He prides himself on turning his clients into celebrities in a local environment. Now, the season publicist whose offices across from Judge Judy is on the law of a major production studio focuses on turning his clients into Star guests on local TV news stations. And he’s built a seven figure business where he and his wife, Ali, are the only employers in the process. So what has been the biggest turning point from his time as a struggling taxi driver, like we discussed on the first time on the show, to seven figure success? And why does he feel that the new book was intimidating to write and required 25 years of build up to do it justice? Well, let’s find out as we bring on the show, to start joining up the dots for the second time, the one and only Mr. Clint Arthur. Good morning, how are you again?

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [2:13]
Hey, so great to be with you.

David Ralph [2:15]
It’s lovely to have you here for a second time, does it feel like 10 years has passed, you don’t look any different? You look younger, if anything.

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [2:26]
It definitely feels like 10 years, it’s been a lot of stuff that’s happened, a lot of stuff that has happened since I talked to you last, oh, my goodness. And so we spoke in 2014, just the end of 2014. And at that time, we and if you want to go back and listen to the episodes for the listeners, we were talking about how you were struggling as a taxi driver, you was trying to get things going. And it was a struggle for you. You know, there was a journey. And then there was a switch where suddenly you were earning the money and the belief come in. Now, was that the hardest part? Or is the hardest part going to six figures to seven figures? What’s the what’s the hardest part of the journey, the hardest part is getting to part when im hitting rock bottom where you’re in enough pain that you got to change. That’s really the hardest part. And Pete There’s two kinds of people, there’s the people who respond to pain and want to avoid pain. And that’s 99% of people. And then there’s entrepreneurs who generally are more aspirational. And until you become until you break through the pain.

To become the business owner, the entrepreneur, generally you’re going to be just the person who’s trying to avoid pain as much as possible. And unfortunately, that’s not the way to, to make it to make it work. I mean, it took me all the way until

New Year’s eve of the millennium. You know, were you getting y2k cash out of an ATM. Were you partying with family and friends? Well, I was behind the wheel of Yellow Cab number 6087. And that night in the back of my cab with these two kids, really they were MBA interns at Goldman Sachs. And I was listening in on their conversation. Hey, man, did you hear about Mr. Carrera? They made him the last part and right before the Goldman IPO and he cashed out a gazillion dollars. And I turned around and go, Hey, are you guys talking about Chris Carrera? How do you know Mr. Carrera, Chris Carrera was a pledge in my fraternity when I was in college, and

now, he was making a gazillion dollars as the last partner in the Goldman IPO and that night I go home and count up my money $536 I was supposed to be something special.

And that is when my pillow turned into a sponge. soaking up my tears. That’s when I hit the rock bottom and I said I’ve been chasing this Hollywood dream for 13 years, I can’t keep throwing my life away like this while all my friends are becoming millionaires and some of them billionaires. And that’s, that’s when I hit the rock bottom and decided I had to change. I quit screenwriting, I burned all my screenplays and I just started focusing on making money.

David Ralph [5:19]
I often wonder clean if people really do need to hit a rock bottom to like bounce back, because it seems that anyone who’s really done stuff has gone down before like, it’s almost like a spring, where a lot of people are doing all right, they come out of college, they get a job, they kind of just float along in that sort of that normal land. But the ones that sort of go down, it’s like they, they tighten up their knees, and then they spring back harder, because of it.

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [5:50]
they say that, you you got to you got to hit the bottom, I don’t know how else to describe it. I mean,

you have to try really hard and fail. And only that that pain gives you enough power, from pain to power. That’s what it is.

And your adversity becomes your advantage. Your your mess becomes your success. That’s These are phrases that we use when we’re talking about people telling their stories, how to how to build your story, so that people can understand your journey. But it’s more than just the story. You know, I say that to understand the meaning of your life, you have to understand the meaning of your life stories. And the only way to do that is to tell your own stories. And I’ve been doing a lot of storytelling and a lot of book writing, which is storytelling in print.

And you need to do you need to you need to suck before you can be great. And unfortunately, that’s a very painful experience. But that’s the only way to get there.

David Ralph [7:00]
Now you’re obviously in the world of celebrity entrepreneurship Clint Arthur and turning people into sort of media stars. Now, as we say, you’ve got to hit rock bottom, you’ve got to have a journey. You’ve got to have the experience. How do you feel? What do you personally feel being in the environment you are when you see a kid walk into a room sing a song in front of Simon Cowell and polar Abdo, and then suddenly they’re kind of a celebrity’s sort of overnight. Do you think fat is justified? Do you think that’s fair? Or do you think that you do have to pay your dues? Life isn’t fair, nobody said it was going to be fair, nobody said it was going to be easy. I guess there are some people who win the lottery. I had this screenwriting teacher one time, and I paid $400 to attend his seminar twice. His name was Robert McKee, very famous guy in Hollywood, amongst the screenwriting community, and he looked out at the audience of 300 or so of us sitting there who had all paid him hundreds of bucks to be in the audience. And he goes, it’s true.

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [8:06]
People do sell their speculative screenplays in Hollywood for a lot of money, 250,000 500,000, even a million dollars, it does happen. It will never happen to any of you. But it does happen. And it’s the same thing with American Idol. I mean, how many people have the guts to even audition, maybe 10,000. And out of those 10,001 becomes the American Idol. And even that person is not guaranteed of success. There’s been a lot of American Idols who nothing really happened for them. It’s, it’s more like, here’s the thing that I tell a lot of my clients is that it is up to you to make yourself somebody special in the eyes of your customers and prospects. You’re never going to be Kim Kardashian, you’re never going to be Donald Trump, or Kanye West or Elon Musk, it’s never going to happen. But it doesn’t have to happen in order to have a huge impact on your bank balance and on the world that you live in. I’m not famous, I’m probably the most famous guy that nobody’s ever heard of. If you looked me up on Google, if you look me up on Google, Clint Arthur, you’ll see pages and pages and pages of stuff about me and hundreds of interviews and all kinds of stuff. All of that stuff. Doesn’t make me famous, but it makes me a celebrity in the eyes of customers and prospects who I’m trying to influence to pay me lots of money and a lot of people are very happy to pay me a lot of money and I’m doing very, very well. But it’s interesting you say that Clint because you do kind of look famous, even if you weren’t, you know, you could step out of that taxi or millennium. And I think that you you would carry yourself there’s an inner confidence to you that you see a lot of people not having and you can see

had, I had no confidence, I had no confidence. When I stopped driving a taxi, I had no confidence for many, many years. It was only until I stopped drinking when I stopped smoking pot. And that was my first step to gaining confidence. But when I quit drinking in 2014, that’s when I really started gaining confidence because I was undermined by alcohol. So every day I was undermining my confidence with alcohol by impairing my abilities. And you can’t lie to yourself, you look in the mirror, and you know that you’re not as good as you could be because you’re drunk or hungover. And if you do that, almost every day or every day, that’s a great big portion of your life where you’re undermining your own confidence. So I appreciate that you say that I look like I could be famous. And, you know, compared to what I used to be, I do look like I could be famous, but I’m not I’m you know, I’m still just an unknown person. People look at me like, is he somebody people hear me and think, wow, he talks like somebody like one time I was riding from the airport in Atlanta, to do one of my celebrity Launchpad, TV, publicity events, okay, I’m about to do my 52nd version of that seminar, in a couple of weeks, it’s they always sell out, because it’s amazing, I guarantee that you book yourself on at least three TV appearances with ABC, NBC, CBS, or Fox, or you get your money back plus $1,000. And I wouldn’t be able to offer that guarantee, if I wasn’t able to deliver. But I was in this

uber black car, and I’m talking on the phone, I hang up the phone and the driver goes, Excuse me, sorry, I couldn’t help but hear your conversation. And you know, I drive a lot of celebrities because of this is a limo. And I’m just wondering, are you famous, and I go? Well, I’m probably the most famous guy that nobody’s ever heard of. But nobody is asking me for paparazzi aren’t chasing me, nobody was coming up to me on the street asking me for selfies, I’m really, you know, just a regular person, he goes, Well, it sounds like you have the best of both worlds because I drive a lot of these celebrities. And they all complain about how they don’t have privacy. But sounds like you have the advantages of being a celebrity.

But none of the disadvantages of losing your privacy or not being able to feel comfortable in the world. And that’s true, I make the money. Maybe I don’t make as much money as Kanye West. But I do make a lot of money. And I do have a lot of impact and influence and income from working with lots of super smart people who are authors, speakers, coaches, I love my clients, because they’re all changing the world. Now, Bill Murray famously said, people want to be rich and famous. Let’s start with just rich first, and then see if they want to be famous. Now you hang out with a lot of people, there’s a lot of famous people that we’re going to reference through this interview. And

David Ralph [13:01]
our age genuinely happy souls, or are they you know, on a sort of misery guts, really, you know, what, what’s the spread? Did I realise that they’ve been lucky in their blessed and they’re fortunate? Or did I not see it that way Clint Arthur?

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [13:18]
The really big ones are the nicest, and they seem to be very happy. It’s some people who are like, selling their souls to the devil to get the money. Those are the ones and I’m thinking of one in particular, this one female client of mine who, you know, sold her company and she’s kind of like working for the man and yet, so she’s getting kind of famous and kind of has money. I don’t know what her problem is, but she doesn’t. She doesn’t really feel the satisfaction. I know I do. I I’m living my life. On my own terms. I have

a motto moto. Basically, my life is about freedom, power and adventure, freedom to do whatever I want power to make it happen in the adventure of doing cool, exciting things. And I live that every day. And I really do enjoy it. And I find the big big people, the people who are out there. really famous, you know, the people we’ll be talking about later, the Dr. Oz is Martha Stewart’s iced tea and Caitlyn Jenner and Brooke Shields these people are are pretty happy. Yeah.

David Ralph [14:30]
One of the it’s sort of the happiest out of all of them. And he just seems to be in his own world of happiness is Snoop Dogg. And there was there was a fascinating quote, and I loved it because I thought Yeah, I can so imagine him saying this, that you asked him what the most important thing he ever learned and he said Life’s too short to smoke cheap weed. And it made me think okay, I don’t smoke cheap weed. But I do have a few bits of clothes in my cupboard, but I never wear because I think I’ll say

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [15:00]
Even for a good day, and what he means by that really is live every day like it’s your best day just just use what you’ve got in front of you is quite a powerful statement in a kind of druggie content, it really is a great statement and I quit smoking marijuana and December 14 2009. So I’m really morally opposed to marijuana. I think it’s a terrible addictive drug. But philosophically, life is much too short to smoke cheap weed or to drink cheap wine. If you drink wine. As I said, I stopped drinking in 2014. I used to be a connoisseur of fine wine and all all fine alcohols, I, but it’s too short to do anything cheap. It’s too short to wear clothes that you only wear because they’re cheap, or it’s too short, too short to drive a car that you don’t love. It’s too short, to live someplace that you don’t love living. These days, my wife and I are spending most of our time at our villas in Acapulco, Mexico. And it’s paradise. And I was telling you in the pre interview, that pandemic was really the best thing that ever happened to us, it really forced us to take a look at our lives and what we wanted and what we didn’t want. And as much as I loved living in New York City,

David Ralph [16:16]
aka poco is even better. And so with the pandemic, I think most of us on different levels on a personal level would say, yeah, it made a stop. It made us assess, it made us become quieter and more reflective. Did it affect your business at all? Because some people say to me, no, it was brilliant. It was boom time.

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [16:39]
You know, if you speak to the owner of zoom, I think we all lived on Zoom for two years, you know, how did it affect your business? Well, it completely transformed my business, because my business is about live events. And I had a lot of venues, I used to do a lot of events in very, very important places. And when these places would shut down, and not allow me to do my events, it forced me to invent a new way to have events. So we ended up buying a really fabulous resort. Villa. It’s huge sleep 16 people, and it’s gigantic and luxury. And we have a chef and a gourmet chef and a butler. And it’s a giant pool. And now we do my events here at the villa. So instead of instead of being at the mercy of other people who control venues, now I have my own venue where people come and they come from my training and for celebrity Launchpad or impact influence and income seminars and you wouldn’t have gotten to this pandemic clean, you wouldn’t have done that it would have just been business as usual. Hiring conference centres and stuff. Yeah, it would have been exactly that. And instead, what we’ve done is tried to take more control of our own destiny. And that’s exactly what we have here in our own Event Centre in paradise in Mexico. Now, I want to turn the conversation to your new book wisdom of men, which I’ve been enjoying and is a really good story. And I still, I’m not 100% sure if it’s, it’s real or not, but it’s it sounds real. So I’m gonna say it is.

David Ralph [18:25]
And it leads to book, and it’s about you in club 54 in New York. Back in the 80s meeting, a very strange individual called Andy Warhol

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [18:39]
and basically getting the cheapest bit of art off of Andy Warhol that anyone’s ever done. Was that true? That story? Everything in that book is true. I started going to studio 54 When I was just a little kid, because my girlfriend, you know, girls mature faster than guys. And all of a sudden she says, Hey, let’s go out to a nightclub. And we ended up at Studio 54. And it’s really amazing when you get there. There’s like 1000 people in the streets with trying to get in and she just walks right up to the front. And

the doorman just picks her out and she grabs my hand and pulls me inside with her and boom, there we are at Studio 54. And I started going there by myself because I realised I could do it too. That’s so much of life is if you see people who are doing something, then you realise you can do it too. There’s a lot of stories like that, I think in the book. But you know, in those days, art was a different thing.

We used to go on the subways. And there’s another artist named.

He drew these pictures of what were called radiant babies on the walls of the subways in the 1980s and

we would never would never think twice

About those pictures of the radiant babies, but today those things are worth like $100,000 His chalk drawings of radio babies, but in any case I met I met Andy Warhol one night in the balcony of Studio 54. And he offered to give me a ride home and a taxi. We ended up in the back of a limo with Halston.

And Halston dropped us off at Andy’s factory. And we went up to talk. And I was fearless. In those days, man, I really was fearless. I wasn’t afraid of anything, or anyone. And I just went up to this loft with Andy Warhol. And it’s about 230 in the morning. And we were talking and he ended up giving me a beautiful piece of artwork for 20 bucks, and I still have it hanging on my wall to this day. And have you had it valued? Do you know what it’s worth now?

I think it’s worth about

David Ralph [20:55]
5000 Oh, so you you’ve done all right, you’ve done all that and that you you can sleep tonight you can sleep knowing that the bills are paid if you if you ever need it. Now, with the with the book wisdom of the men, what interested me as well was the collective nature of the people that you can burst stories and opinions, I opened it up thinking it was going to be all sort of huge A listers. And it’s not it goes from people like Brendan Bouchard, which a lot of people may not have heard of, but he’s very well thought of online. We’ve got how Elrod We’ve got John Travolta, we’ve got George Clooney, how did you choose the right people to actually, you know, bring in to your well to this period. This book is about the most important people in my life. And the people who’ve had the biggest impact on me. And, you know, I was originally I was going to include everyone like my dad and my grandfather, and the guy who gave me my first job. But I really wanted to stick with people who were famous that people know because what I realised is,

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [22:07]
like it or not, people are more interested in famous people. And I’ve met a lot of famous people, as you said, John Travolta and George Clooney are just a couple of the names in the book. But then there were others who were kind of famous, who I call celebrity entrepreneurs, were only famous really in the eyes of customers and prospects. And I included those if there was some kind of direct connection for me now, how Elrod came to my celebrity Launchpad, and he

couldn’t afford to come. At first he signed up and then the next day called me up at said, Clint, I talked to over with my wife, Ursula, and we decided we can’t really afford for me to attend celebrity Launchpad. And I said, No, how you have to come because your story is so important. Here’s the story. When I was 2120 years old, I got hit by a drunk driver going 80 miles an hour and I literally died on the side of the highway. I was dead for six minutes. The paramedics took me to the hospital and my poor parents. The doctors told them if I ever came out of the coma, that I would be paralysed. And a complete vegetable. Well, they were partially right. Today I am a vegetarian. But I frequently run ultra marathons to raise money for worthy causes. I’m how Elrod author of The Miracle Morning, the Miracle Morning has gone on to sell more than 2 million copies. And Hal Elrod, while he’s not famous, he has been on the Today show. He’s done a lot of TV appearances after coming to celebrity Launchpad. I’m not saying I made how Elrod he he made himself. Like I said earlier, it’s up to you to make yourself famous. It’s up to you to make your life happen. But I did play a part in his success by launching his TV career. And he’s told me that he uses those videos as evergreen marketing videos on YouTube, even to this day. And that helped him to sell 2 million copies of his self published book. So that’s why I included Hal Elrod. Now, now he was on Join Up Dots many years ago. And I remember when he was talking, I thought to myself, there’s nothing that can stop you. You. The only thing that can stop you is yourself, you know. So it’s interesting that he saw you as a springboard to something else.

Do you not think he could have done it on his own? Like I said, How Elrod has done a lot of stuff, and he made it happen. But there’s nothing that replaces television, television is the most powerful messaging medium there is. And he couldn’t have gotten on without coming to celebrity Launchpad and making it happen. So, you know, I don’t know if he could have made it by himself, but he certainly wouldn’t have made it as fast because TV accelerates everywhere.

Eddie success. Now there’s people here that I am fascinated how you crossed paths with Mick Jagger. Ringo Starr, you know, we’re not just talking about legends, we’re talking about the the supreme legends. Really, you know, you can’t get much bigger than Mick Jagger. So how did he cross your path? I was a member of a mastermind, where I would pay $25,000 a year to be in this mastermind. And one of the most important things I learned from being in that $25,000, a year mastermind was to take more vacations. And then the second most powerful thing I learned from that was to take longer vacations. And I was taking one of my long summer vacations at the Royal Hawaiian hotel. I think that one was 50 Nights at the Royal Hawaiian hotel in Honolulu. And I was sitting by the pool, working on building my LinkedIn connections on my iPhone. And I got an email while I was taking a break, I looked at my emails, and there was an email from a charity that said, Hey, if you donate $25,000, to the charity, you can be elite level guests with the Rolling Stones at one of their concerts and meet the band and get a photo. And I showed that email to my wife and she said, wow, meeting the Rolling Stones. That would be amazing. But $25,000 That’s crazy. said yeah, that’s a lot of money. The next day, I got another email from that same charity. And just on a whim, I clicked the button, and the fields of the credit card information auto populated with my iPhone. And then it just was one more click said, click here to confirm your purchase. And boom, I donated $25,000 to the charity and I said to my wife Hey, guess what? We’re gonna go meet Mick Jagger. And she says you did not pay? $25,000 said Yes, I did. It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity and what is money for? So we flew to Europe and met Mick Jagger. I said, Sir Mick, what’s the most important thing you ever learned? He said, You can’t always get what you want. But if you try, sometimes you might find you get what you need. And I know it’s just the line for one of his songs. But hey, it’s Mick Jagger, and he could say whatever he wants. But more importantly than that, it’s also a really great piece of philosophy. I know a lot of people. They don’t think they want to be famous. They don’t want to be a celebrity. That’s because they don’t really understand what celebrity really is. As I’ve been saying. It’s not about being famous. It’s really just about creating the perception of celebrity in the eyes of your customers and prospects. And if you’re an author, a speaker, a coach, an expert or consultant of any kind, that is what you really need, you may not want it. But that’s what you need to do. If you want to have more impact, influence and income. We’re talking to Clint Arthur, and we’ll be back after these words.

David Ralph [27:59]
would you love to earn a consistent six figures plus all in one of the easiest ways possible? Then join me for a free podcasting masterclass, as I go behind the scenes and reveal the secrets that have turned Join Up Dots into a multiple six figure earning podcast. Now, these are simple business strategies that work time and time again, and you can use to head over to join up dots.com forward slash podcast secrets and book a time with me. And I look forward to showing you how you can have your own business that operates when you want, where you want, and of course, brings the income you want to that is join up dots.com forward slash podcast secrets. Well, we’re talking to Clint arpha. And the question that I’ve been leading up to is, why was the book intimidating when you’ve read 25 books? Why did this sort of need a 25 year run up? When I was a little kid I went to a special High School in New York City had to take an exam to get into the high school. It’s a public school called Stuyvesant. And every kid in New York City takes this exam. And only the ones who score the highest get one of the 850 seats in the class. And I was one of those and amazingly enough, I had an elective called Creative writing with a teacher named Frank McCord and Frank McCourt was just a normal guy from Brooklyn. He used to wear a corduroy jacket and rumpled

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [29:31]
plaid shirts and he had crooked teeth because he grew up in Ireland and he used to tell us stories about his impoverished childhood in Ireland. And after I graduated from college, I began my 13 year obviously chasing the Hollywood dream which put me behind the wheel of the cab. And

in 1986, Frank published his book, Angela’s Ashes, and I used to go home at night.

After driving the cab, and I would pull my Warren copy of Angela’s Ashes off my shelf and read myself to sleep thinking. If Frank McCourt can make it then I can make it because Frank McCourt’s Angela’s Ashes went on to win the Pulitzer Prize, and made him rich and famous around the world for real rich. And for real famous. Even my dad, who knew nothing except for the stock market knew who Frank McCourt was, I said, Dad, did you hear about my creative writing teacher from high school, he won the Pulitzer Prize. And my dad says, You mean the Irish guy. Even he knew who he was?

Well, I wanted to write something that would

be worthy of a Pulitzer Prize, I wanted to write something that would put me up there with Frank McCourt and I looked at his book a couple of years ago. And I thought to myself, I’ve never written anything like that. I mean, I haven’t written anything great, amazing. My, my books are excellent, but they’re not like that. And this was a huge, intimidating thing. I mean, when I came up with the idea to write wisdom of the man, even, even when I first came up with the idea, I always knew that it was going to be my most important book. And I think that knowing that it was going to be

David Ralph [31:18]
a book that I wanted to actually be amazing. That’s what put all the pressure on me. Because I had to do it justice, I knew that the subject matter was important. And I knew that the project was important to me, and I really wanted to do a great job. So it took me a long time until I felt like I was ready and overrated. And I think that’s one of the keys to success in life is that you really need to feel like you’ve paid your dues and more, in order to be able to have the success that you need, you need to prepare for success. I think that’s true. And I think there’s a lot of time in my background, but I remember saying to my wife, oh, yeah, no problem. We’ve got it. Now. This is gonna and I look back on it, I think no, it wasn’t ready. It was still simmering, it wasn’t half cooked, you know, and whether that feeling was never aim, because you move on to bigger, bigger things. I always find it amazing, Clint, that people still say to me, are you still podcasting? And I think to myself, why do people use the word still in front of things? Are you still doing this? Are you still doing that? Surely it’s about doing something and committing to it, and making it happen for yourself?

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [32:32]
Well, there’s two parts to the word steal from me.

Yes, I say to my students, when does a celebrity entrepreneur stopped going on TV? And the answer to that question is when you’re dead, because celebrity entrepreneurs always go on TV. So all celebrities go on TV, and we’re while they’re still TV, I’m still going to be going on TV. But the other part of it is, I get a lot of questions from prospects these days. And they asked me, Are you still doing this? Or Aren’t you still doing that, and really, there is no more still, the world has changed so much. I say you got to get what you can get while you can get it. I try to do things.

But it’s not the same as it used to be. You know, there was a there was a point in the world when I was doing events at the Harvard faculty club or at the Harvard Club of Boston every year. And those those types of things have changed since COVID has come along the world has changed. I don’t think there is such a thing as steal anymore, unless it’s something where you have total control, which is why we bought the villas in Acapulco. And that’s why podcasting is so genius because you have total control. And that’s why writing books is so important. And a great thing that I love to do, because no one can stop me from writing books. And people are going to say to me, are you still writing books? Yeah, I’m going to be writing books forever. Why? That’s one of the five things that celebrity entrepreneurs do. We write best selling books, we write and publish best selling books, we go on TV, we speak at very important places, we get pictures with famous people. And we win awards. And those those are basically the five things that celebrity entrepreneurs do to position ourselves as somebody special in the eyes of customers and prospects and I will still be doing those things until I die. Now one of the things that I was surprised that it’s not a cheap book $99 nearly $100 for the book, is that going to put off the kinds of people that might actually benefit from it most?

Well, if you really want it, you could get it on Kindle for less money, but if you want the hard cover of the book, then you’re more likely to be one of my clients.

Who want to hold things in their hands who want what they want when they want it and they get what they want when they want it.

But there’s also a nice package of bonus videos that I’ve included in the videos alone are worth many 1000s of dollars. There are interviews that I’ve conducted with Martha Stewart and Dr. Oz and Caitlyn Jenner and Suzanne Somers and the most interesting man in the world.

Dog, the bounty hunter and Nigel Farage, these are all videos that you cannot get anywhere except in my bonus area, and you can only get it if you buy a copy of wisdom of the men. That is a weird one. Nigel Farage, I caught his name on the cover, just as you said that. How the hell did you come across Nigel Farage, you know, I’m I go after people. I’m interested in meeting the movers and shakers, the people who change the world. One reviewer said I basically have met all the most important people in the 20th and 21st century so far. And Nigel Farage is definitely one of those, I wanted to ask him about,

about how to survive in the turbulent times that we live in how to deal with inflation, how to how to maintain a positive attitude and a forward momentum. In light of everyone saying that you’re crazy. Your ideas are stupid, just like what happened to him with Brexit. And I asked him, What’s the most important thing you ever learned Nigel, and he said, patients 27 years making Brexit happen? patients. So out of all the people that you have met, obviously, they’re not all, you know, set the world alight. And you probably go actually, I’d never want to meet those again. Is there anybody that you haven’t met? But you think, yeah, that would really be icing on the cake. That would be the one that I I’d really go yes, this this sets it and you can say alive or no, we have to alive and dead? Well, it’s really interesting the way life goes, I mean, of the dead people. And I probably said this, when we spoke last time you met many years ago, I would like to meet Benjamin Franklin. He’s had a profound influence in my life, I attended the university that he founded. But even beyond that,

I, I was listening to Kevin Hart’s book, you can’t make this up. And I’ve listened to it now twice on Audible. I love Audible books. And by the way, the audible version of wisdom of the men is performed by me and a lot of people say it’s fantastic. So if you’re like me, and you’re an audible member, and you have an extra credit or two laying around in your account, click one off and get wisdom in a man on Audible, you’ll really enjoy it. And you also get the bonus videos with that. But in any case, he he was talking about how and when. And this goes back to what we were talking about about being prepared and over prepared. He said that he went on a tour of every comedy club in America, and still his career did not break through. And then he went on a second tour of every comedy club in America. And still his career did not break through then a third, where he was even playing in basketball arenas. It didn’t break through. And then finally, after four tours of every comedy club in America, including arenas and stadiums, his career finally broke through where he is now, the Kevin Hart that you all know. And I thought to myself at that point, Boy, I’ve always wanted to be a comedian. I’ve always wanted to try stand up comedy, but I don’t have the perseverance and the determination to go on a tour of every comedy club in America, even once, let alone four times.

And then I got a funny message on Facebook and I was invited to join this stand up comedy training programme, which culminated in me performing at Caroline’s on Broadway, which is one of the most famous comedy clubs in America. And I actually did that. And my whole set was about celebrity, of course. And what I found is that Benjamin Franklin was the first celebrity entrepreneur. He was an inventor and a printer. And he was famous in his own day, because of his work in politics. And as a writer, and I ended up doing a whole skit about Benjamin Franklin, in my comedy performance, where I transformed myself on stage into Benjamin Franklin singing and dancing in a in a musical comedy number. So I would love to meet Benjamin Franklin.

I’d love to meet Kevin Hart. I think he’s amazing. And I you know, but I don’t think he would be the cherry on top of everything. I mean, I’ve met five presidents of the United States. I’ve met you know, every major celebrity Martha Stewart, Oprah Winfrey, Dr. Oz George Clooney. I’ve met every

David Ralph [39:59]
One so I’m pretty comfortable about that. But I guess the only person left is I would like to go back and meet Benjamin Franklin. A table if you could. You basically did Hamilton, didn’t you with Benjamin Franklin, you kind of went the wrong way.

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [40:15]
That’s right. I my musical number was set to the music of it’s raining men. Oh, okay. Yeah. Wait, okay. And instead of it being it’s raining when I would say it’s Franklin, Ben, hallelujah, it’s Franklin. Amen.

Did it go down? Well, I’d tell you what, I’ve done a lot of stuff in my life and doing stand up comedy on a stage in front of a live audience of people who didn’t know me was the scariest thing I have ever done in my life. Yeah, and some of the jokes that my coach assured me were going to kill, absolutely flop dead on their on their faces, a couple of them got some good laughs. I had a great time. I think that the musical performance was well received. I had, I had these 216 year old high school students who were friends with my vocal coach, who were dressed up in colonial dresses, and they were my colonial wenches as my backup dancers and singers. And I think the musical production was well received, although overall, I don’t think I’m going to give Kevin Hart a run for any money whatsoever. Well, I look forward to it being at the west end soon in a theatre, a theatre near you. Well, this is the bit that we’ve been leading up to. And this is the second time that you get to go on a journey on Join Up Dots on the Sermon on the mic. Now, the first time you got to choose who you got to speak to the younger version of you, the five year old, the 10 year old. This time, you got to speak to the person back in 2014. What type of Clint was fat? Well, we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the music. And when it fades, is your time to tell us. This is the Sermon on the mic.

Unknown Speaker [41:58]
Here we go with the best bit of the show the Sermon on the mind, the Sermon on the Mount.

Clint Arthur Celebrity Making Expert [42:13]
Claims I know it’s not going to be easy. quitting alcohol is a major challenge and achievement. And it’s really the most important thing you could ever do. You have a lot of determination, there are going to be some tough days. But your determination to stay sober and claim sobriety for yourself is really the smartest thing you can do next to investing and pursuing celebrity with everything you got. There’s no such thing as bad marketing. And there is no such thing as bad celebrity opportunities. Because you learn from every single thing you do whether it turns out the way you thought it was going to be or not. It’s always going to be a learning experience. And the more celebrity you can build, and the more sobriety you can keep, the better off you’re going to be. Interesting stuff. Clint. What’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you sir? Clear t.com CLI n t t t.com. Clint with three T’s why three T’s Clint Well, one of my expert students is a expert in name ology, the science of names and she said, Clint, I wish you could add another t to the end of your name because the T’s end up on top. And if you had two T’s you do better. Well, I couldn’t get Clint with two T’s dot com. But I did get Clint with three T’s dot com. And it seems to be working out just great. Perfect, perfect. So we’ll have the links on the show notes to make it as easy as possible. Clint, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again, when you got even more dots to join up in another 10 years as I believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our paths is the best way to build our futures. Mr. Clint Arthur.

David Ralph [43:57]
Thank you so much.

Mr. Clint Arthur, who builds celebrities for media performances, basically, giving us the right way to go is about boosting celebrity. It’s certainly wins it’s certainly affects bank balances. It does have a downside as well, which we didn’t touch on that interview. But um, it’s interesting to know what you think. Do you agree with Clint that to be really successful, you’ve got to look successful, act successful, and be a celebrity in your own mind? Or do you think there’s other ways of doing it? Let us know join up dots@gmail.com Until next time, my friends you look after yourself. Thank you so much for listening. And I’ll see you again soon. Cheers. Bye bye.