Dan Simon Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Dan Simon
He is a man who has been on one hell of a transformation after realising that his life was not going the way that he wanted it to go…..and then doing something about it.
As he says “In the past I had been successful in a variety of ventures.
I worked for large corporations as well as being a small business owner wearing every hat imaginable.
In 2010, I realized those hats did not fit very well. I finally looked myself in the mirror and realized I needed to change.
I’m a father, a son, a travel junkie, a dog lover, a pilot, a golfer and a lot of other things.
And at that point I began a total makeover of my life, both inside and out.
How The Dots Joined Up For Dan
Since 2010, I’ve visited 32 countries, circumnavigated the globe twice, sold a business, sold an airplane, placed all my belongings in storage and became a nomad.”
But the key thing is since that moment of epiphany in 2010, he has realized that many people are afraid to own their greatness and enjoy every ounce they can out of their lives.
Fears, worries, and obstacles prevent all of us from moving forward in certain ways and he decided that he wanted to help others step into their greatness so that they can live the life of their dreams.
And now he challenges people across the world, to become the biggest version of themselves that they can be.
He challenges them to ask the important questions that we all bury deep down inside ourselves.
Those questions that we need to desperately ask if we ever want to stand out from the crowd and live the lives of our dreams.
And in the process his work is allowing him to enjoy more and more of his life too.
So why did it take a leap in New Zealand to finally realize, that everything we want in life starts with a decision to “Go”
And where does he see the biggest issue with people today, a lack of belief that they can match up to what they are seeing the world doing, or simply dreaming big enough.
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr Dan Simon
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Dan Simon such as:
Why the online world can often leave us feeling flat and isolated, even though we are surrounded by billions of people, and what to do about it.
Why he made the decision to jump off a bridge in New Zealand even though he was quite frankly terrified and how he conquered the thoughts that almost stopped him.
How he made the decision to start his business and the steps that he took to find his first customer ,and turn them into financial rewards for himself
Why Dan can now see the masses of opportunities in his life everyday that would have passed him by several years ago. Different mindset gives different vision.
How To Connect With Dan Simon
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Full Transcription Of Dan Simon Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:34]
Yes, hi back. Can you believe it Episode 667 of Join Up Dots whereas the last 500 600 God I know is is amazing. When you start anything, you literally start with just one step ahead of yourself all the time. And then you look back every now and again. Even God I’ve travelled quite a long way and I suppose that is a kind of match up or it’s going to lead us perfectly into today’s guests because he’s a man who’s been on one hell of a Transformation after realising that his life was not going the way that he wanted it to go, and then he did something about it. As he says in the past, I’ve been successful in a variety of different ventures I work for large corporations as well as being a small business owner, wearing every hat imaginable. Now in 2010, I realised those hats did not fit very well I finally looked myself in the mirror and realised I needed to change. I’m a father, a son, a travel junkie, a dog lover, a pilot, a golfer and a lot of other things. And at that point, I began a total makeover of my life both inside and out. And since 2010, I’ve visited 32 countries circumnavigated the globe twice, sold the business sold an aeroplane, based on my belongings in storage and become a nomad. But the key thing is, since that moment of epiphany in 2010, is realised that many people are afraid to own their own greatness and enjoy every ounce they can out of their lives, fears, worries and obstacles prevent all of us from moving forward in certain ways, and he decided that he wanted to help others step into their greatness so that they can live the life of their dreams. Now he challenges people across the world to become the biggest version of themselves that they can be. He challenges them to ask the important questions that we all buried deep down inside ourselves those questions that we need to desperately ask if we ever want to stand out from the crowd and live the lives of our dreams. And in the process, his work is allowing him to enjoy himself more and more to so why did he take a leap in New Zealand to finally realise everything we want in life starts with a decision to go. And where does he see the biggest issue with people today a lack of belief that they can match up to what is seeing the world doing, or simply not dreaming big enough? Well, let’s find out as we bring them to the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr. Dan Simon. Good morning to you, Dan. How are you sir?
Dan Simon [2:45]
Good morning, David. I’m doing great. Thank you very much for that introduction. I’d like to just sit here and listen to it. Glad to talk.
David Ralph [2:51]
Oh, you talk you talk because that’s what makes a podcast when it is it goes back. It goes forward. It goes back it goes forward. So what is your life like? Because at the moment, obviously, we’re going to delve back into it. But you have challenged yourself in quite a short period of time to go 360 and probably 360 again, are you somebody that is living in the here and now have you got routine in your life? Or is it spontaneous fun every single day?
Dan Simon [3:17]
I actually haven’t been a routine I’ve actually been settled back in Virginia for the last almost year and a half, I’d say I plan to come back here for nine months to attend to some family issues and to just get settled for a little while I had been living in Canada before that. And for about nine months, and I’m just about to start a new walkabout and things have become a little bit too mundane for me in terms of where I’ve been looking for some new adventures and excitement. And I’m not quite sure what they’re going to be but I’ve always had this you know, the travel bug I’ve been done in about 60 countries and There’s going to be a point where I’m going to start travelling again and and just seeing the world. And at the same time, I’m looking at new aspects of my business in terms of working with women, mostly with women to help them really to own their greatness and to step into their power. But instead of doing work individually, I want to start putting together groups of women in terms of mastermind groups and and some live events that I can do throughout the world. And I have to say that actually just looking at the computer screen and working with people over zoom videos, is good, but it leaves something to be desired in terms of that, that connection and getting out. So now’s the time to start a new walk about as I did in 2014 was another one in 2017. Yeah, I
David Ralph [4:50]
think you’ve wiped me out. I was talking I was in a pub last night having a few beers with a mate I used to work with. And when I used to work in corporate land, I was a trainer so I stood up and I used to do training. conferences and courses on a myriad of different subjects. And I said to him when I left my job, the last thing I wanted to do was go back and start training in front of people. But I’ve just realised after doing this for three years, you lack something and I think you’re right. It’s okay on Skype. The virtual world is great. But there is a need to actually touch people and and stroke people. And that’s what I want to do. Dan, I want to get around the world and stroke my listeners. Is that a bad thing to admit?
Dan Simon [5:29]
No, it’ll be between you and I.
David Ralph [5:31]
Good because no one listens to this, but it is that sort of blend, isn’t it? Because I think that people start a online business thinking that is going to take away all their issues. All they’re having to deal with people, but that’s what we are. We’re humans. We like to be you know, we’re pack animals. We like to stay with each other. Don’t worry, we like to connect.
Dan Simon [5:51]
Well, that that is the key word for me is to make connections and in my life, I’ve attracted so many beautiful connections and I like to connect You’re doing that and and you can do it on online. Obviously, there’s a lot of ability to reach people all over the world online. And it’s the technology’s unbelievable. But as you said, and I listened to some of your podcasts where you say, Well, I haven’t met anybody. I’ve talked to 667 people, but I haven’t met any of them. And you do say maybe it’d be nice to meet them and, and, and to have a different kind of connection. And there’s a different kind of energy and a different dynamic that occurs when you’re in person that you just can’t, can’t create online.
David Ralph [6:36]
Absolutely. Right. So let’s get back into your life because it is fascinating to me, but you, you were coming to where most people would have settled you as a father, you as a husband, you were you were in that kind of stage of life where most people would have said, you know, it’s too late to change. I am where I am. It’s been too much water under the bridge. You’ve got up and you find jumped in. This was like the starting point. And to be honest, Dan, I don’t understand bungee jumping, I have no interest in bungee jumping. And it’s that 20 bit when you hit the bottom and then come back up. That’s the bit I don’t want to see my eyeballs pop out of my head. And in the blog post I was reading you were you aunty it yourself, but at that moment when you leapt off, it had a life changing effect on you. Do you look back at that person and see much similarity to who you are now? Or are you a totally different person?
Dan Simon [7:32]
The same person is there the person that looks for joy and excitement and fun as there but in so much of my life, I had realised that I I followed what I thought society wanted, wanted me to do. Culture wanted me to do and it was really an accumulation of stuff of aeroplanes and country club memberships and, and things that weren’t that important to me while I was spending A lot of time working at something that I’ve been in a business with my wife for almost 20 years and it was about 19 half years too long. And you know, there wasn’t anything wrong with the business. It was a good business but it just wasn’t me. And I guess the best way I can describe it as you said, I had no plan to jump off that bridge. When I went to take a look at the Carew river bungee jump, I thought it was interesting. I said, Let’s go take a look at it’s interesting and and I spent probably two hours watching the people jump and it was December 29 2010. And it was a summer, beautiful summer day in Queenstown, New Zealand. And I just became mesmerised and watching this people from a viewing platform only maybe 2030 yards away, that you could see the fear, the terror, the excitement, the joy, you could see every human emotion that was out there. If these people and Something came over me at that time that said, Dan, you got to do it. Yeah, I don’t know when I’m going to be back in New Zealand and this is something that you have to do. And the other part of me was saying, No, I don’t, I don’t really want to do that. That’s the last thing in the world I want to do is to jump off that damn platform. And that commenced as you’re reading the article, we won’t get into it. Now, I don’t think but that commenced the three day negotiations were exactly what I was going to do. But I knew at that point, I had to do it. I had to jump off that ledge. Why?
David Ralph [9:35]
Why did you know at that point that you had to do it and why didn’t you just let that your voice go? Come on, get on a plane and fly back and leave it behind?
Dan Simon [9:45]
I can’t answer the why of that. I knew I had to it’s so there wasn’t a wasn’t an analytical decision. It was a knowing that then you’ve got to do that. It’s kind of one part of me challenging myself. You’ve got to do this this is unbelievable. And, and, and always, you know, most decisions like really do come down to, to facing your fears. And, you know, I’ve always believed that the more of those fears your face because you don’t have to the people I work with, I don’t tell them you need to jump off a bridge to change your life. There can be the simplest of fears can be a phone call to make to somebody that you don’t want to talk to. It can be very terrifying for you facing people talking and revealing things about yourself that nobody knows. There’s all kinds of ways to address it. But what I found was that once I jumped off that bridge and came up, I had an exuberance and an excitement. Like I had never known before. And it was it was because I lived because I didn’t die. And the realisation came to me not right away over time came to me that if I could do that If I could face that fear, which was completely terrifying to me, and again, a lot of people can get up there and say, This will be fun and jump and no big deal. But that certainly was not the case for me. And even though I’m a pilot, I always had a healthy fear of heights. And I knew I was going to be terrified. And but that that, understanding that if I could do that, I could start making decisions in my life that I hadn’t made that I’ve been settling for. They’ve been kicking town down the road for comfort and for convenience and for what other people thought I should do. And I could stop doing that. And then a series of things occurred after that, that that dramatically changed everything about my life.
David Ralph [11:47]
So as he was plummeting to your death, were you thinking to yourself, this was mad. I’m actually enjoying this. What was actually sort of going through your mind because I’m fascinated why anybody wants to do that because there’s no logic behind it other than going, I survived up and to be honest without jumping over that you’re probably going to survive anyway. So what was going through your mind that he was falling to the ground?
Dan Simon [12:12]
Well, again, you’re right. You’re not gonna get any logic for me because there is no logic there. But a give you a little bit more of the backstory from the magazine article as well. Because when I decided on on that Wednesday, December 29, I was going to make the jump. I always there are a few different jumps in Queenstown and the care was the original bungee jump. There was invented by AJ hack and it was a 43 metres high, so pretty high. But there was another jump cut the nevus River jump. That was a gondola suspended over a canyon where you jump 134 metres over 500 feet. And I decided, you know if you’re going to jump in, why don’t you do that? Why don’t you go to the big one you know you might as well you know go big or go home kind of BS. So the next day I went out there I paid my 50 bucks to get on the bus to go out to the site. And as soon as I saw the massive Canyon I mean you saw I saw the pictures before and the videos in the in the in the bungee Centre in Queenstown and it looked unbelievable. But when you actually got out there it was mind blowing Lee terrifying. You take this gun lot, you take this tram out to the gondola and there’s a little spit of water a little creek down there that is so far you can barely see it. And they the people were for freefall for almost 10 seconds. And it took me about three seconds to realise. No, I don’t think I’m going to do that. I’ll go back to Carol and I’ll jump though that the first one that’s that’s too terrifying and I I can hit my crack point I said that I’m not gonna do
David Ralph [13:59]
this interesting. Isn’t it because when you do that bold decision that that thing that shapes your life, you almost think to yourself, Well, I just have to keep that momentum going, I just have to keep on going and just do bigger and bigger and bigger things. But we do all have that comfort bubble pressing us back. And you can get one arm out on it and wave your arm around into the next area. And then you can get another arm. But it’s so unbelievably difficult, isn’t it to progress just to bigger and bigger things, which is why, as you say, when somebody is looking to change their life, in many ways, they shouldn’t be looking at the big and bold things. They should be looking at the tiny little things that add up to something, the things that are just an inch away from their comfort zone at the moment, but allows them to progress forward. And I imagine that’s a big part of your coaching teaching people not to look at the the end story because it’s just too big to deal with, but just look an inch ahead.
Dan Simon [14:55]
Yes, abs absolutely because in my life, I’ve always used my My brain a lot in my analytical capabilities and have really come to realise that you can’t figure out what’s going to happen. You can’t, you can, the brain is really good for figuring out what already has happened. But it’s not really good for figuring it out. It’s much better to use your gut to use your heart, use your intuitive capabilities, and I’m a triple intuitive and I’ve just begin began to learn how to use those tools and to turn the mind off and quit trying to overanalyze everything. And it’s, it’s a different way of living and it’s not particularly easy or comfortable, but it yields different results when you do that. So if I can kind of go back to the rest of your question about the bungee jump about how I felt when I was ready to do it, because yeah, so after I decided I’m not going to jump it never said I’m going to go the next day to care when I had a 330 flight out from Queenstown Auckland into la Los Angeles The next day, so I had no other no other cans to kick down the road ahead. I had to do it. And I spent the whole evening Thursday evening, mustering up my courage and rehearsing how terrified I was going to be and I was kind of calm that evening and kind of resigned, but this was gonna happen, maybe my life was gonna be over, but I was going to do it. And then when I drove out to the site that that morning, I had a reservation slide for I think 1215 and when I drove out, I started I was in tears, tears started running down my cheeks and of emotion that I was and I didn’t understand what that was about other than afterwards, it probably part of it made one part my reptilian brain thought this is it, you’re gonna die. So you might as well just get used to it. But I got out there and the Kiwis are so laid back and everything is no fuss, no muss, no drama. You get out there and you start getting a little bit nervous. And you sign in and the girl says, you know, and they give you like, a 10 line, little waiver form that you know, in the US you’d get up 50 pages to sign but this thing are you pregnant? How do you feel? Okay, go out there, go and jump. And so I start getting a little bit more nervous as I get my number and get assigned to go out there. And I’m a I get in line in the bridge behind probably 10 people and within 30 seconds are calling for somebody that’s about my weight to come up they need because the way they adjust the tension on the bungees they it’s easier if they have somebody in similar ways, something like that. So now I’m second all of a sudden I’m second and I start feeling the the heart Come up into your throat and then your sit down and second. They start gearing you up and putting some towels around your legs and, and the thing around your waist and I don’t know what the hell they were doing at this point, my brain was completely frozen. And so my jump masters name is Sally. And Sally says to me, hey, Dan, would you like to set this up to hit the water? At this point, I couldn’t even talk. And I mumbled something. I don’t know. It says I will see if we can just get you to nip it. And and now the guy in front of me, the guy, the girl though the gorilla, I don’t know who it was. They’re gone. And I’m number one. And when I stood up, ready to go, there’s a metal bar that you hang on to when I stood up. every fibre of my being was saying, you don’t need to do this. You turn around and walk out and get off this bridge. Everything told me that and I can remember as clear as it was, it was five minutes ago. So I’m standing there and felt like tells me to look at Camera looked at the man on the left. And he puts his hand on my head hitting on my waistband. He says, Okay, then let it go, let it all go. Jump.
Unknown Speaker [19:12]
And that was it. But
David Ralph [19:18]
I don’t get it, I don’t get it. There’s so many things in life that you can do that has a positive effect. And doesn’t mean that your eyeballs pop out and your blood vessels burst and all that kind of stuff. I just I don’t get it down. I don’t get why anybody wants to do bungee jumping in and, and I don’t really understand why anybody wants to jump out of a plane, because I’ve been on hundreds of jet planes and I always land and if a if you’re in a plane and it’s going down, you’re gonna go down with it. I don’t hear you. I just don’t get that when when you talk to your people that you’re coaching in groups. What kind of person is attracted to you professionally is it Somebody that is going through a, you know, a rough relationship. Is it somebody that’s going through a rough job What What kind of person is interested in Dan Simon?
Dan Simon [20:12]
Well, as I said, I have worked mostly with with women, not exclusively, but mostly and, and people always ask me why and so I’ll be happy to answer that for you as well. But it typically women that are 40 plus that have been this is kind of my avatar, my demographic, when they’re 40 plus that have exited a marriage or relationship. And the thing that that probably troubles me the most that I say that really, I feel sad about is in our society, so often women put themselves last right they they get married, they have a family, and I run people, the women that are that come into my life. To work with so often have been just treated very badly. And then they get kicked out for whatever reason out of a marriage. last person I work with the husband was a crack cocaine addict and, and cheated on her and all kinds of unpleasantness and, and a beautiful woman, if you spent 20 years being mistreated, and then you get out of that situation, let’s say you’ve got teenagers, then it’s very difficult to say, Okay, I want to create a better life than I had the last 15 or 20 years. But I don’t have any idea how to do it. I don’t have an example of how to do that. I’m just comfortable with this power struggle and the fact that maybe I had a few good moments here, they’re over 20 years, but in the end, I know I don’t want that again, but I don’t know. Anything else so I just see that so often that that women even though they may have an analytical understanding that they want something better, and they want a man that’s gonna come in their life and treat them in a better way I help them to to get their energy to get their their spayed. Speight get into a space where they have the ability to attract something that’s a lot better with a belief that they truly deserve it. Because in the beginning, they don’t think they deserve it. They don’t think that they want that kind of a treatment and they’re gonna keep getting the same kind of treatment over and over again. I think
David Ralph [22:37]
that’s the key thing to everything isn’t it’s the personal belief. We either believe that we deserve something or we believe that we don’t deserve something. And that’s why we see so many people self sabotage when they get all the success in the world. And when they do mad stuff to sort of like break it up. It all comes down to that personal, those thoughts that run through us all the time. I’m gonna play some words in Then and then we’re gonna come straight back to you is Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey [23:03]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [23:29]
Now, the key thing to me is he says you can find out what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance and doing what you love, but most people don’t know what they want. And this is the big stumbling block. Those words are brilliant. I love listening to them. But I also think to myself is it’s missing a gap. When somebody comes to you and they want to change their life, do they come with a blueprint of what they want their life to be like? Or are they just throwing it over to you to to sort of fill in the the colour on the picture for them.
Dan Simon [23:58]
Most do not Have a blueprint. And I like that, that that speech by Jim Carrey, because in fact, I’m going to talk a little bit about exactly that in the later in the show. But I found that and so, so often, I didn’t even look in the right direction, I had opportunities, and I had things that I really loved. But all the time when I was growing up, and when I was younger, I was looking in a different direction. So those things, to be in the movie business to be a golfer didn’t even occur to me as a possibility. And, and it goes back to the old beliefs and the old decisions. We all know whether we’ve had a traumatic childhood, or whether we’ve had a good childhood, we’ve learned things, we’ve developed beliefs, and we’ve made decisions about who we are, that are made mostly subconsciously, that if you don’t update those beliefs, if you don’t revise The story because you don’t even realise what is what is the story that you’re living because it’s just so comfortable. It’s just, it’s the clothes you have on, right? And once you can, once you can take a step back and identify what the story has been and whether it’s true, whether whether you want to continue living that story, whether it’s a new one to revise and to update, and what I what I call find the typos, I have a whole list of what I call typographical errors. And I have a Facebook group of women that I call it’s a typo, not a tragedy. But until you understand who you really are, what your real potential is. You won’t even look at these other opportunities because you won’t believe you, you won’t even believe that they’re possible. So most of what I work with is not about let’s devise a blueprint for what you want. It’s better backwards, where were you? How is it that you had these ideas about yourself? How is it you keep selling yourself short? How do you How is it you keep having relationships with men that treat you badly and leave you with nothing? And where did that come from? And once somebody gets clear and is aware of where they came from, and has a desire, not everybody has that desire to change that. So you join
David Ralph [26:24]
up the dots in their lives basically, that’s what you spend your time very much like myself joining up dots.
Dan Simon [26:32]
Absolutely, I kind of come. You know, I call myself on my media, a life story editor. I help people to edit their life stories, but when I was preparing for the show, I also thought in a different way. I consider myself a heart centred intuitive detective, because I’m very good at understanding both what somebody is telling me and whether through really resonates is true. Is that really who you are And I have the good fortune that most of the time the people I work with, they really take me seriously and they believe in they take it to heart so I can have an impact on people’s lives because I care about them. And I’m very hard to convince you can have a story that you’re not good enough and, and that you have to settle for less, and you’re not pretty enough or you’re not smart enough. But almost always, it’s there’s no truth to it. And when I can remind somebody that here’s what I see, here’s what the truth is. It can be very transformational, and then you can start doing some work to the last part of it is, let’s design a neutral design a new dream for your life. So I work with that. But you can’t design a new dream for your life. If all your if your headspace is all about the old beliefs and the old decisions you made that you’re not even aware of yet. We have to get to that first.
David Ralph [27:57]
Well okay, so so you went through this transformation and you’ve come out the other side with a job, a career that you quite obviously love, you’re transporting it around the world, you’ve got big plans. How did it go from this idea of, I need to challenge myself to be bigger and bigger to start thinking about other people. And as opposed to a key question then is how did you start making money from it because that is a stumbling block people have these ideas, but actually getting people to buy into their value and give them cash is quite a bridge to cross. How did you do it?
Dan Simon [28:36]
Well, I would say, David, this is my business is still embryonic and I actually am transitioning from doing the individual work, to doing the group work, and I’m stumbling around a little bit in terms of actually getting ready to launch an online group coaching course in preparing the email sequences. So I won’t say But I consider myself a huge success. And I really have only gotten serious about it in the midst of my walk about in, in 2015, in terms of really identifying that I wanted to work with women and coach women, so, and I’m happy to say that I haven’t and I don’t really want to create a huge empire, I’m not looking to do that. And I was told this a while ago that I will have a lot of impact on people, but it’s not the number of people. It’s the kind of people that show up in your life that normally wouldn’t show up and wouldn’t listen to other people show up for you. And that’s kind of happened organically in terms of a whole list of people that have shown up so far in my life. But I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t tell you that I’m a huge success into in terms of a bunch of online group coaching programmes, but that’s exactly where I’m going to go and ask That’s I want to create but it’s embryonic right now, and I’m very excited about it.
David Ralph [30:04]
Now that’s that’s not what we’re asking. What we’re asking is how did you convince that first person to come over to your, your fledgling company and actually invest into you? Because that is the stumbling block that all businesses have the first customer that turns up at your door, and your website doesn’t look very good, and you’re not as polished as you are? How did you convince them that the value was there to be gained?
Dan Simon [30:30]
You know, David, I don’t think I can really convince everybody, anybody, but I do offer to help. And I follow a lot of rich lips and wrote the book of the prosperous coach, I follow a lot of his philosophies, which simply requires that you offer to have transformational conversations with people and often unpaid in the beginning until somebody decides that hey, maybe I’d like to work with you in a more in a more longer term fashion and then they They choose it. But I just I just try. And when I meet a person in any kind of capacity in a networking capacity online and in Facebook groups, whatever, I always offer value if they want it. And there are so many people out there that are crying for help that are afraid to ask for help. So, again, it’s not a traditional way of doing it, but I just try and provide some value in somebody’s life, whether it’s whether it’s a 10 minute conversation, or whether it’s a comment on a Facebook post, or whether it’s a two hour conversation. And that then, and some of those people say I’d like to talk further and I’d like to see, where can this go? Where can we actually take this if, if you’ve shown me all these things in in an hour or two hours, where can it go? If we talk consistently, week after week, month after month, because the real secret is I can I can give a diagnosis for somebody and a short period of time, I can see what’s going on, I can tell them, here’s what’s going on, here’s what I see, here’s what you need to change, and it won’t do a darn better good. It really won’t. Because people can’t take that knowledge and have the functionality to change it for themselves, because they have the knowledge they need the support. You know, if you’ve had 20, or 30 or 40 years of one way of living ideas that aren’t correct about yourself, you need a lot of support. And that’s that’s one of the reasons why I find it so important and meaningful to put groups of women together that can support each other rather than need just on a one on one basis, to have a group of like minded women that will support each other in their mission to to become bigger to become better to own their greatness to create relationships that are healthy instead of dysfunctional and it’s not it It’s not an easy snap of your fingers kind of thing it’s a process can take can take certainly months, and can be ongoing for a long period of time. So that’s probably the best answer I can give to you that people show up in my life. And I try and help them and some of them become clients and some of them do not.
David Ralph [33:17]
You could get trapped into the the freebie route forever. You know, the discovery calls are obviously very powerful. But if you’re giving too much value out, there’s got to be a time when Dan Simon says, hang on, I’ve got bills to pay. So how do you deal with when somebody is, is quite happy to keep on gaining your advice and speaking to you but isn’t willing to actually cop up?
Dan Simon [33:45]
Well, it’s certainly not going to be forever and it’s really as much for their benefit. And for my lifetime, because until somebody is willing to make an investment in themselves, and that’s really what I tell them is much like that. are described, if you want to go further, if you want to delve into this and if you want to get the support you need over a longer period of time, then here’s the different different programmes that are available. And I try and devise different levels of interaction. That will include very close interaction and the ability to communicate on a daily basis versus let’s just have a chat once a month. So to fit into different people’s budgets, but no, you have to have the conversation because it’s somebody you’re absolutely right David when somebody gets it for free, and they don’t appreciate it as much, so even if I had had the the magnanimity to give everything away for free, I wouldn’t have as much of an impact. So you’ve got to say, here’s the way I work, here’s the things that are available, and I’m happy to purchase anything choose the free things that are on my website, the the PDF guide The Essential Guide to rewriting your relationship story, the video guy stuff you can get for free, I’m happy to give you or if you want more direct contact with me in long term, then certainly. Here’s the different options. And again, some people choose and many people doing some people decide not to make the investment, mostly the people who decide not to make the investment stuff because they don’t have the money. It’s because they’re not really ready. They’re not really ready to do it. And so they don’t want to,
David Ralph [35:34]
yeah, they’ve either not ready as such, or you haven’t given them the value piece. And that’s it. When people see something that they can’t live without. They are willing to pay anything they want. And you see that some people will drive around in 150,000 car, other people would never pay back for a car, but it’s the personnel value pieces in it that you put onto it. And when you see websites and you see a load of pieces struggling, it always comes down to that they haven’t nailed what they’re bringing to the table. They haven’t nailed what they, their client base are really looking for. And more often than not, it’s because they’re trying to deal with everybody. They’re trying to sort of cover the tablecloth with something for everybody to eat. And the way to do it is what you’re doing is just sort out your avatar, know your demographic and work specifically for those individuals. And it might seem a tiny little crumb in that pie. But ultimately, it pays back big time then.
Dan Simon [36:34]
Yeah, Jake was set, made it I was at one of his seminars last year, and he said, your tribe is waiting for you. So everybody has a tribe, and, and you just have to get yourself out there and you have to be authentic. And I find the challenge and it’s been a chance for me as well as to let’s do that. Let’s follow the template. That’s follow the sequence. That everybody else does. And let’s copy somebody else because they did it, it works that way. So it obviously it’ll work for you just follow that. And frankly, I just can’t I’ve never been the kind of guy that can follow somebody else’s formula, somebody else’s template. And it just doesn’t work for me. But I’ve made plenty of my own mistakes and gone in the wrong direction in terms of doing that. So to find your tribe, you’ve got to be who you are versus who somebody else told you, you need to look look like. And it’s, it’s a challenge for a lot of us. And there are so many coaches out there, and there’s so many people doing out there. But the more authentic you are, the more willing you are to put yourself out there and be vulnerable, and talk about why you’re doing it. And there’s probably a couple more things I’d like to mention about why I’m doing this David as well. But the more you do that, the more people will start to come to you and in a organic fashion versus Let’s run a lot of Facebook ads and see what shows up.
David Ralph [37:58]
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you Got to fish in the right pool. And by being yourself, it just becomes easier, it becomes effortless. And there’s I disagreed with you in a way, I believe that if you look at some of the top movers and shakers out there, the template is bare for them. You don’t have to recreate the wheel, you can copy exactly what they’re doing. But as you say, You’ve then got put your own spin on it. And if you look at all the ways that people bring business to the table, it’s written for you, you don’t have to be the most creative person in the world. You just need to be out to look at how the email sequences go out how their opt ins are created, all the kind of things that get people in to the sales funnel, but do it your own way. Do it your own way, know your avatar, and go for it. Well, this is a part of the show, but I’m gonna play the words of the late Steve Jobs who knew a bit of things about how to create a business. Here’s Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [38:56]
Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward with When I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [39:31]
I would imagine you buy into those words quite heavily then
Dan Simon [39:35]
100% David 100% I couldn’t agree more and it for me in this lifetime. It’s all about trust and trust is a decision. You have to decide when you don’t know the answers when you don’t know where that next step leads. That you’re going to take it anyway because you have a feeling as an intuitive, you know, I I trust my gut. I follow my heart. But my entire life prior was the opposite. My entire life was living in my head being analytical and thinking, I could figure it out. And it reminds me of the book, power versus force by David Hawkins. where some people go through life, it’s a very male energy of, let’s make things happen. If I do this, and this and this, and this, it’ll happen. And you’ll force it versus your essential power is, who you are, the faith you have in yourself and the energy that you create and how you show up, that attracts things to you that just show up without any explanation, and give you opportunities. And that’s really always what’s happening in my life. Even though many times I didn’t realise that. I have these things keep showing up and all the great things that have happened in my life that have shown up have not been because I’ve forced them to Because I planned them, but because I showed up and I had the right energy and well, I just prepared so that requires trust. Yeah.
David Ralph [41:08]
And do you think you’ve got different eyes? Now these opportunities maybe 1520 years ago? Would they have just passed you by?
Dan Simon [41:16]
Absolutely, absolutely. I had, I would not even be looking in this direction. If I was the same person I was 10 or 15 years ago, I had experienced in 2011. And Brazil when I visited john of God, I don’t know if you’re familiar with China, but yeah. And so this was, this was six months after my bungee jump. And that was and I we don’t have the time to get into it. But it was a transformational experience for me when I went down there and some unbelievable things happened to me. But one of the things I realised was at that time that I’d spent 95% of my life sitting in the middle of the fairway but I felt Like, I was 95% of the time I was in the woods. And I don’t know, I didn’t know why. But I decided that if I just quit looking at the woods and I realised I’m in the middle of the fairway, life would get a lot easier. And I really had a huge, huge part of my transformation to realise that I kept choosing the negative I kept looking for what what was out there that there was not enough. And what how I had to really whip myself harder. I spent most of my life really not taking care of myself, beat myself up badly and never being good enough. And it’s not a good way to live. But I in in two weeks in Brazil, I realised that there’s a different way to look at it. And it’s just a matter of turning your head a different way and looking someplace else and nothing else.
David Ralph [42:48]
I think that’s it. I think that’s the perfect ending to the show and the perfect segue into the bit we’ve been building up to, which is the Sermon on the mic when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your youngest son. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Dad, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give? Well, we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the theme music. And when it fades, you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [43:20]
With the best bit of the show,
Unknown Speaker [43:25]
Dan Simon [43:35]
Hello, 17 year old Dan, heading for college to be a doctor. Fortunately took a year so to figure out help is not the right path. You listen to your gut that time. First, I want to tell you that you can relax. You can begin to treat yourself with some kindness. I know you think there’s not enough of just about everything. Not enough time, not enough money, not enough love. But especially time, but there is enough of everything and you will have plenty of all of it in the future. Just relax and if you apply to ideas, your life will be so much better. First is patience. Just allow the universe to deliver things in its own timeframe. You don’t get to pick the time frame. The second in this lifetime is to trust that all things will work out perfectly. Instead of following the well worn path, have a degree in chemistry and working for a multinational company, step back and think about what you really want. You love California and the creativity of the movie business. But you didn’t see the possibilities. You looked in the other direction. You love golf, you love competition, you love being outside. But you didn’t see the possibilities. You looked in the other direction. You loved aeroplanes, but it took Another 18 years to start flying and acquiring them. You looked in the other direction. So now is your chance to take off the blinders to rewrite your story and follow your highest excitement. Time to follow your gut and your heart, not your brain. Have fun.
Unknown Speaker [45:20]
David Ralph [45:21]
What’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you, sir?
Dan Simon [45:26]
They go to my website that Dan Simon dot CEO from there, they can get to my Facebook women’s group for Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, it’s at Dan Simon TV, or just Dan and Dan simon.co.
David Ralph [45:41]
We will have over links on the show knows Dan, thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. And please come back again, when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Dan Simon, thank you so much.
Dan Simon [45:59]
Thank you, David. It was great to be with you.
David Ralph [46:03]
Dan Simon, who’s kind of at the beginning of his career, but he’s making the emotes he’s learning. He’s making mistakes. He’s pivoting. He’s going 360. But he knows what he wants. He knows what he wants to do. He knows the audience he wants to deliver to. And now what he needs to do is fine tune that message. So it is laser targeted for those people. You only get about a couple of seconds for somebody to hit your website and know what you’re bringing to the table. And so that’s what you need to do. Get your message right, know what you’re doing and niche down niche deeper and deeper and deeper, and you will have a business. If you need any help on creating something in your life. Please connect with us at Join Up email@example.com or you can go over to the Facebook group. There’s hundreds of ways you can connect with us. But until next time, we’ll see you again.
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