David Hauser: Unstoppable After $100m Burnout Crash

David Hauser Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast


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Introducing David Hauser

Joining The Dots To Where He Is Today

He decide to finally start caring about his heath.

He realised that even committing to the conventional “health diet and lifestyle” (avoiding fried foods, eating a low-fat /whole-foods diet, going to the gym etc) did not work.

He sold his company, changed direction and now seems happier than ever.

So was the conventional advice correct, but just not correct for him?

And where do we all go wrong in business. Putting the money first, or simply working too hard to get it?

Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr. David Hauser.

Show Highlights

During the show we discussed such weighty topics with David Hauser such as:

Why it is so rare that anyone who hears their body screaming for us to stop actually pays attention to it.

David reveals his process of fasting for 16 to 18 hours of day. 

How everybody has a business in them by trying to solve their own problems first and foremost.

and lastly……….

David share how everyday of normality could well be stripping away our health and benefits without any knowledge that things are getting bad.

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Audio Transcription Of David Hauser Interview

Intro [0:00]
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.

David Ralph [0:25]
Yes, hello, a good morning, everybody. Good morning and welcome to join up dots today shows a little bit different from the last few episodes that we’ve been doing. Because it’s very much about being fit for purpose in the entrepreneurial world. And in life. It’s quite often, the last thing that we think about we shove things into our face, we shove things down our throat as quickly as possible to move on with what we need to do. And maybe we should be looking after ourselves a bit more. Well, today’s guest on the show, I guess has a similar story to your friendly Yes, sexy neighborhood podcast host. That’s me and

I guess many of the entrepreneurs that have appeared on the show over the years, so focused on building success and wealth, he was on the track to becoming in Steve Jobs, wise words, the richest man in the cemetery. He used to work 100 hour weeks as an entrepreneur bootstrapping grasshopper to $30 million in annual revenue, and then charged five to an investment from Mark Cuban. Now as a serial entrepreneur, he has done what founders dream of despite not having nearly enough money, he’s made a success of his business. In fact, he’s made an amazing success. Although in life, the ying and yang can’t be ignored. There is a balance between life and business which some people ignore until much too late. As he says, after being overweight, tired and generally unwell as an entrepreneur, I embarked on a journey of self discovery and self optimization that led me to the human optimization framework. He decided to finally start caring about his health and realized that even committing to the conventional health, diet and lifestyle, avoiding fried foods, eating a low fat

Fat whole foods diet, going to the gym, etc. It didn’t actually work. He sold his company changed direction and now seems happier than ever. So was the advice correct but just not correct for him? And where do we all go wrong in business putting the money first or simply working too hard to get it? Well, let’s find out as we bring them to the show to start joining up with the one and only Mr. David Hauser.

David Hauser [2:26]
Morning, David, how are you, sir? Great. Good morning. Thanks for having me. It’s great to have you. I queried wherever you are the American version of bin Laden because you’re sitting in a cave at the moment. Are you cross legged? Is it all stress free in your life is the only thing that in your life internet connection, what kind of hassles are going on in your life at the moment? So I mean, I wish I could sit cross legged for that long. I actually am at a standing desk, move to a standing desk quite a while ago and just love to change my back changed my posture.

Love it in always, but yeah, you’re sitting in a cave would be a little bit more meditative.

David Ralph [3:06]
Now with these walking desks, I’m always interested in this standing desk, have you got like a treadmill underneath because I’ve seen those ones where you can actually be like the large hamster walking while you’re working.

David Hauser [3:18]
So I tried those, I actually didn’t like it as much. I think it kind of just plays on this conventional wisdom idea of like, we need to be exercising and walking. And I think that’s a failed approach in general. I look at exercise and movement much more for enjoyment than burning calories or something like that. So for me, the standing desk was to change my posture. Get out of the chair. I was having tremendous back problems sitting in a chair for that long. But you know, the key for me is always been variation, right. So, just as bad as sitting all day is probably standing all day, right? So, you know, taking a phone call sitting down, doing something like that I think is good. Just have that variation during the day. Compared to Standing.,

David Ralph [4:00]
what about laying down all day? Is that right?

David Hauser [4:04]
Yeah, I wish. I think when I was younger, I was far better at napping than I am today. But, I mean, look, if I could effectively work laying down, it would probably be quite comfortable.

David Ralph [4:16]
As I tell you, well, people have been making money hand over fist laying down in business for years and years and years. It’s, we won’t go in there because it’s a family show. But there’s a business opportunity there for you. So So David, I’m interested with you because if anybody’s listened to the episodes of join up dots, I had a terrible situation maybe a couple of years ago where I just got engulfed by work and Gulf by stresses lost my focus, and my body screamed out, David, David stop. And instead of David stopping, I just thought if I work even harder, I will get to the promised land quicker. Would that be a similar kind of journey that you’ve been on?

David Hauser [4:56]
Yeah, I think I think it’s it’s very identifiable for a lot of people, right. Like the the idea that our body is screaming us and we don’t listen, for sure happened to me on multiple occasions throughout this journey, right and one was when I was just really unhealthy and you know, gaining weight, tired all day, you know those types of things, which were not as loud as when I started doing for example, triathlons and Iron Man’s and my body was literally screaming like my knees were hurting my back my shirt, like everything was like screaming loud, which is a very different type of please stop scream than it is being fat. No, wait. Yeah. Right. And, you know, throughout all those things, I ignored it. And I did the opposite. And I think what you did, which is I dug in more, right? Like, instead of doing less traffic ons, I’m like, Well, I gotta train more and harder and longer and it’s kind of that just put more work in idea.

I think that works well.

David Ralph [5:55]
And why do we do that, David? Why do we? Why do we jump in and dig even deeper.it’s madness, and let’s cut to the chase is madness. It is I think it’s this this concept where we think, you know, the wisdom, we believe is the absolute truth. And we never question it right? And if that’s what diet or exercise or for through the work rather than questioning saying, maybe I can be more effective rather than doing more. And,

David Hauser [6:21]
you know, stepping back for a second and thinking about that. And then I think just naturally the idea that hard work equals success pervades all that we do, right, no matter what it is, if it’s business, if it’s school, or if it’s our personal health. Like, that’s why the gym industry is so big, right? Like, do more of working out, and you’ll be more healthy, right? That’s what James make money on,

David Ralph [6:46]
when I make money on the fact but nobody actually goes, you know, that’s the thing that we’re all paying gym membership. But nobody actually goes, I think he’s the M six, six times, and then most people stop, but they still pay because they can’t get out of their contract.

David Hauser [7:00]
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is an interesting industry. And I think some people also pay because it feels like if they have the gym membership, it’s closer than not going right. Like, if I don’t have the gym membership, and I don’t go, that’s worse than having the gym membership and not going like at least I had the option to go.

I think there’s a little thing there.

David Ralph [7:20]
That the weird thing about it though, as I say to my wife, I’m quite proud. I’ve never been to a gym in my life. And I I feel like I will never ever buy a membership because I say there was a time that we didn’t need a gyms we just worked. We ran we chased buffalo we did whatever we did you know, you don’t get a caveman going. I’m not going to get that antelope today, I haven’t worked out for the last couple of days, they just sort of did it. So you’re standing up at your desk? Is that the first sort of stage to actually say no, we can just live our normal life, we don’t have to squeeze a gym membership in that we’re going to ignore, we can just be more clever with how we’re working.

David Hauser [8:00]
For sure. I think that’s why for me movement, and exercise is like literally just going outside and walking, like it not counting number of steps and all of that crap. Like, I think that’s ridiculous, right? Like this idea that we need to count number of steps and get to some mark, like, maybe just go outside and enjoy being outside, right. And if that’s for five minutes, or five hours, depending on your time and the things you want to do. And the same is true for movement, right? Like, do something you enjoy. Maybe it’s just doing something with your kids outside, running around throwing a ball, whatever, compared to running on a treadmill inside of a gym, right? Like, those things just sound far better to be outside and doing something. But yeah, I mean, like, the concept that we have to work out is crazy. And it is a very modern concept. Like we’re talking the last, you know, 20, 3040 years, right? Not even hundreds of yours, compared to thousands or millions of years, when you start to look back at evolution, right. And the idea that we need to do this to be healthy, I think is is is a false, conventional wisdom kind of concept that is just out there. And is believed to be the ultimate truth, right? But there’s very little data to back that up. And the data is actually the inverse, where the more you quote unquote, work out, the hungrier you are. Which is makes sense, right. And that’s why it’s so hard to to lose weight, because you need to get into this exact balance of I gotta burn enough calories, quote, unquote, to to get to this point, but then my body says, Hey, you burn more calories, you need more food, and you need to have enough self control to not even like him. It’s just this horrible balance. Right? And I think changing the way we eat, can definitely adjust that and not have to worry about that balance anymore. And and kind of go back to what we should be.

David Ralph [9:56]
Well, yeah, the thing that we should be eating is the right view for our body, you know, and I think that See, that’s the key to all of it. We all look at these, you know, I’m a great one, I went through a phase of buying recipe books, thinking, I’m going to eat more healthfully. And then every time I opened the recipe book, I didn’t have the ingredients, so I never cooked anything from it. So I just kind of lived with normal food. But is that normal food right? For me? Is it right for my wife, because we can digest things differently, we put petrol into a petrol car, these are into a diesel car. But with humans, we just think that we can absorb everything exactly like the next person. And that’s gonna be mad. And it says winners. And

David Hauser [10:37]
yeah, I mean, I think the key is definitely finding what’s right for you, the individual. But there are things that I believe that are clearly incorrect for the vast majority of people, right, and one of those is definitely sugar and refined sugars, right? Like, the data is clear that as sugar consumption is increased, and a magnitude that is unreal, even in recent years between, you know, five and 10 years ago, but if you go back to kind of the the pre agricultural revolution, where we had none of these refined items, this is only a few hundred or a few thousand years ago, right? So the human body may, and this is the key may be able to consume the amount of sugar that we consume now or more 1000 years or 10,000 years from now, right? Because there are a few people that works for but very few. So now we need to wait for evolution to kind of catch up. Right. But today, it is clear that that is not good. Now, there’s a lot of dispute about what is the right diet, right? I have my own personal beliefs. But I think what is missing in the whole conversation is like, is it plant based? Is it keto? Is it you know, high fat animal products, not animal products, like what’s missing all of that, right? is what matters is how I feel, right? Not how you feel or the next person feels. But you I’ve removed the things that are clearly bad. And I’m willing to test across the board and say, maybe these other things work. And not being dogmatic about it, I think each of us will find that optimal fuel far easier than just saying, well, the government says I should eat this. And I would definitely not listen to that.

David Ralph [12:18]
I wouldn’t listen to the government, no matter what they say, doesn’t matter if it’s the government over here or the government over there. They’re they’re always bad as each other. Now one of the things that I do and I think this is my my genius David I do, I think this is my genius. I drink five liters of water a day. And I think that is great to sort of flush things through. But it also stops me getting hungry as well. So I just have a breakfast, I have a lunch and I have a dinner and I don’t eat anything in between. That’s an easy thing most people could do back when they just sort of up their water content.

David Hauser [12:50]
Yeah, for sure. Like that. That’s super easy. And it’s relatively cheap, right? I mean, just get a water filters. You don’t even have to go buy bottled water or anything like that. Right? There’s probably you know, I want to be drinking high quality water. So that’s why it filters important. But yeah, super easy. And I think along those lines, like if it helps you feel full, and it’s working for you, that’s what’s important, right? For me, I don’t eat breakfast, right? I fast in the mornings. And it took a period of time to get diabetes,

David Ralph [13:20]
diabetes, stop you stop you there is the most important meal of the day David

David Hauser [13:28]
My mom told me that forever, right. And it definitely fed me the most important things like high grain, high sugar, cereals, and things like that. And yeah, so we’ve been told this for a long time. And I do believe that breakfast is actually rather important. And it’s an easy meal to consume healthy fats and good things right outside of, you know, high sugar, bread and carbs, right. But for me, it is far easier to skip breakfast because I prefer to fast for between 1618 hours a day than it is to skip lunch or dinner because lunch and dinner are far more social than breakfast is right. So in our household breakfast is not a social gathering, except maybe on the weekends, which I’ll adjust my schedule, but lunch and dinner, lunch for business and meetings and dinner for family are very social. So skipping those would be kind of very difficult on other relationships, which I prefer not to impact based on my decisions.

David Ralph [14:29]
But yeah, I feel fasting. Well, I can imagine you do but you’re, you’re fasting. I thought but you shouldn’t fast every day, you know, I occasionally will go at day, not eating because I think to myself, I just kind of feel better. It’s like my, my body is using the stores of what’s left in me and I feel sort of cleaner afterwards. But every day, that’s can’t be good, isn’t it? You know, even religious fasting is only every now and again, not every day.

David Hauser [14:58]
Yeah, so so the date says that, you get most of the benefit from the fast in the first 12 to 18 hours right. Now, as you extend past that there are definitely benefits. And that’s why people do a 24 hour fast or longer a water only fast for multiple days. And for religious reasons to. But I mean, what is happening in that initial period, and then definitely in the kind of up to 24 hour period is this this process of a toffee in the body where the body is naturally killing off cells that are no good, or it doesn’t need anymore, right this cycle of saying, you know what, I’m looking at the things internally, I’m reducing inflammation, I’m doing all of the reset things that need to happen. I have not seen any data that suggests that doing a fast on a daily basis, or what I call an eating window, because I’m eating every day. But for a period of time I don’t eat has any negative effects. only positive. And I for me, I also intersperse in some 24 hour fast because just like you said, it feels good to kind of reset in that way, whatever’s happening. Like we could talk about the science behind it, it feels good to have that reset. And for me, it just happens when I travel because I hate eating when I when I’m on planes or in airports, selections bad or whatever else, but I just don’t like like it. So if I travel or drive somewhere, those days just usually become a 24 hour fast naturally, without even thinking about it. It just happens.

David Ralph [16:36]
But But do you feel dizzy? Do you feel light headed?

David Hauser [16:39]
No, never. I mean, I think there’s actually this really interesting stage that that I found where in that 18 to 24 hour mark, all of a sudden you get more energy, like everything is kicked up a notch, focus is increased, feel better. brain function is moving faster, like all those things, things are happening to that 18 to 24 hour or plus kind of period. Which is counterintuitive, right? Like you would think that as you go further, you know, energy decreases. But like step back and think about it from an evolutionary standpoint, the body is saying like, in general, I don’t want to die. So I need to increase my faculties. So I can have the energy and the focus to go hunter gatherer or get food, right. So like tapping into that I think is tremendously powerful.

David Ralph [17:31]
Let’s play some motivational words. And then we’re going to come back with David, he’s Jim Carrey,

Jim Carrey [17:36]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.

David Ralph [18:03]
Now, is it what you love what you’re doing now? Or is it just a spin off? Are you busy being entrepreneurial, I know you’ve got a new book evolve out, and you’ve got a focus on wellness and fitness. Is it just a sort of side side avenue for you?

David Hauser [18:22]
know, I mean, I pretty significantly changed my life. So I spent 1213 years building grasshopper, put everything I had into it, both from a, you know, financial standpoint and an emotional standpoint in a time standpoint. And luckily, we built that to a successful stage. And when I look back on it, because people have asked me like, why are you focusing on health now? Like, it makes no sense, right? And it’s an interesting question, because I think what it really comes back to is our core purpose at grasshopper was encountering entrepreneurs to succeed. And now what I realized is like, my, what I get energy from is empowering other people to succeed, compared to see myself succeed, right? Like I love, don’t get me wrong, I love being successful, it’s great. There are definitely, you know, benefits to get building wealth over a period of time, right. But like, on a daily basis, being able to give back what I found, like I put in a tremendous amount of time and ridiculous amounts of time and money into this, because of my obsessive nature, right? Like, I don’t do things halfway. I mean, like, 150%. So I went from never running in my life, besides, like, as a kid, you know, ran the playground, to running boston marathon in a four month period. Right? I didn’t run it fast. But I completed it, and I felt good at the time doing it. So in all of those facets kind of going all in. So no, this is not a side thing at all right? This is I think, going to create far less wealth, or return on investment, quote, unquote, than other things I have done or could do. But my hope is, and that it will return far more to me as a person, and, you know, emotionally, then, you know, wealth

David Ralph [20:18]
standpoint, as well i love about what you’re doing, or in one side of it is, it was your journey that led you to this understanding, which is the classic join up dots process, we live our life, having experiences, building up those experiences, until life says to us, look over your shoulder, this is what you should be doing me, which is sort of happened to us happen to me, and this happened to everybody else as well. But have you been out to do this dramatic sort of U turn, because the business before has put you in a financial position, but you can take bolder risks? Or would you have done it anyway, I think

David Hauser [20:54]
I would have done it anyway, I think it allowed me the time to focus on it, which is, which is good different than not doing it or doing it. So I think the benefit was a time to focus on it. But what what I’ve what really happened is like, to me, it’s very much like in business, right? Like when someone needs to be fired in a company, right? The owner or the founder, or the manager is the last person to realize it, right? Everyone else around them sees it, the whole team, the rest of the company, they know that needs to happen, right. And as a manager or founder, we’re the last ones to figure it out. So we should have done it far earlier. And I think to me, the framework that I’ve developed now is very similar to that, like, I was doing this naturally, and just didn’t step back and think about it. And it took a long time for it to hit me and be like David wake up, like, what are you doing? This is you’re really working in this framework, the exact same framework you’ve worked in for 15 years in your business of optimization, a be testing hypothesis, collecting data, like going through this very systematically, you’ve been doing this? Why didn’t you apply it to the thing that you’ve complained about the most? Which is your health, how you feel your weight? How you look? Like why why have you not applied it there? And it took quite a lot for that to hit.

David Ralph [22:12]
So do you think everybody out there has got a business in them already? by an annoyance, a pain point? Something that they look at go? Wouldn’t it be nice if someone said, Did you think everyone’s living with that perfect business idea? which really is their experience? Point, take him to the where, where it all starts and kicks off?

David Hauser [22:35]
Yeah, I think everyone has that in them. However, I think very few people have it in them to create the business, right. So everyone has problems that could be solved and and very well could be a good business. And I say that anyone who’s starting a business, it is best to solve their own problems compared to trying to identify a market opportunity and going through this, you know, kind of just solve their own problems. But I think very few people are actually good entrepreneurs. And I don’t think entrepreneurship can be taught. Right. So I think this is a kind of counter culture statement that, you know, there are colleges, and I even went to a college that teaches entrepreneurship. And I don’t think it’s a skill that can be taught, I think it’s something that you either are or not in the same way that you know, you and I look at a problem that we’re having. And instantly start formulating 1000 ideas in our mind for how to fix that problem. But the next step is the important one is doing something with those ideas, and starting to move forward. I think that’s where most people stop.

David Ralph [23:38]
I’m not sure if I is right, for I agree with you that entrepreneurship is a kind of intangible quality. But I think at its core entrepreneurship is the willingness to risk what you’ve got to gain more later. You know, I do things when I coach people, and I say my price, and some people go, Well, that’s a lot of money. And I instantly know they’re not my clients. And so I you know, I just say goodbye to them, and they move on, because they’re looking at what they’ve already got in their savings account. And thinking, you know, can I afford this, instead of the entrepreneurial way of saying, I’ve got to find a way to afford this because it moves beyond? Do you see my view on that?

David Hauser [24:19]
Yeah, I see your view. But what I think is that those people inherently are like that or not. And it’s not a change of mindset, right? Like, that is how they are, right. So the same way that you’re filtering a client, they have the inability to build that next step of making a business, right, they might come up with the idea. And there’s lots of reasons why. And we can filter through lots of things. But I think that that’s why there is so much wealth that has been built by entrepreneurs, because so few people can do it.

David Ralph [24:52]
What is your super talent, when David through everything, obviously, you’ve been extremely successful in your past life due to work ethic. Hopefully, now you’re going a different way, a sensible way where you’re doing less, but more you’re focusing in on the classic at 20. What would be your super talent now that you think yeah, this is really, really my thing. This is what I should be doing on a daily basis.

David Hauser [25:17]
Yeah. So I think what I’m best at now is taking a massive amount of information and data points and distilling it down into simple kind of not just frameworks, but ideas. Right? And and I think the best example of this is, is sleep, right? So people always ask me, like, oh, how do I optimize my sleep? How do I do this, right. And I spent a tremendous amount of time in this space, because it’s an area that I struggled with, right? I used to be the person that stayed up until four or five in the morning working my schedule was just horrible in terms of a sleep pattern. So I tried to change that. But I I, I’ve done in lab and at home sleep test I’ve done. I’ve tried every device supplement, lights, this mattresses, pillows, whatever you could imagine, right? But when I when I distill that down into, like, what should someone do, right? It is actually quite simple. Go to bed between nine and 10. At night, get up naturally, roughly when the sun rises around 6am without an alarm clock. And don’t eat within three hours of going to bed. Right? So that means push to enter back to, you know, between six and seven, depending on when you’re going to bed. Like there that took me a long time to learn a lot of different tests a lot of things. So

David Ralph [26:35]
that’s obvious, though, isn’t? It is David

David Hauser [26:40]
how many people do it know when I tell people I go to bed at 9pm? People laugh at me?

David Ralph [26:47]
Yeah, yeah, I can imagine I do. But I’ve had people on the show, but actually go to bed at night, six o’clock at night, and then get up at three o’clock in the morning. You know, and I just think that’s just stupid, you know, touchpoint even go to bed.

David Hauser [27:04]
It’s not even natural.

David Ralph [27:06]
It’s beyond.

David Hauser [27:07]
If we wanted to look at like what kind of our body should do it’s roughly when the sun goes down, the sun goes up. And that’s not 3am. Right. So I think that’s definitely an extreme. And there is very little data to back that up. And if you look at the data, when we get our most restful, or most restorative sleep is between 9pm and 1am an absolute time, not just like at the beginning of your sleep stage. So if you shift it by that you just missed that restorative time. And I think that kind of just talks to what our natural cycle should be. Roughly. But again, like the idea that is simple, doesn’t mean that it’s easy. And usually the things that are most simple, the fewest people do, which is counterintuitive, but that that is the culture

David Ralph [27:55]
we live in, I’ll tell you what, how I do it. This is my bedtime routine for you. Medina random at six o’clock in the evening, I never drink after eight o’clock. And I will only have water or a cup of tea or something like that. I generally don’t watch TV in the evening. And certainly from the last hour before I go to bed, I put on Alexa and say Alexa, play me some nice music, whatever. And then when I go to bed, I literally sleep like a log, you know, I don’t have to get up in the middle of the night to go for a little, little trip to the toilet or anything like that. And, but the key thing where I struggle, if anything, is sleeping with someone, you know, when my wife goes away for a few days, I love it. You know, it’s brilliant. I think actually sleeping with someone, although it’s noisy is comfortable. It’s romantic. We should all have our own bedrooms, I think I think we should all go in, do whatever I want to do and then say thank you very much and go off into our own rooms and have a good night scape.

David Hauser [28:54]
Yeah, I mean, there’s definitely some validity in that. I think that, you know, people are on different schedules and different cycles in terms of their sleep. So it makes a lot of sense. But yeah, I mean, my tossing and turning probably bothers you know, my girlfriend, right? And, and the inverse is true. And, you know, as people have different patterns to right, one partner might watch TV, like there’s no TV or room at all. Like, I don’t understand why people do that. But, you know, maybe that’s a pattern that some partners have to deal with. But yeah, like your your idea of, you know, removing screen time, as it gets later in the evening, I think is one of the most impactful things we can actually do. For anyone who struggles with sleep. And even if you don’t struggle with it, if you just want to improve sleep, right, like looking at bright light like that. Right before going to bed just doesn’t make a lot of sense right

David Ralph [29:55]
now, and we wouldn’t have done it years ago, we’d way so so while we saying for the listeners out there, who are in busy lives, they have rushing around, they’re getting up early, they’re trying to get the gym membership in before they go to work, they’re going to work, they’re coming back exhausted. Are we saying just look at the sort of the hours of their operation and think to ourselves, how can I just bring a little bit of physicality in activists hour without trying to sit at a desk three hours a day in RAM everything in the book ends front and end?

David Hauser [30:29]
Yeah, I mean, I would encourage someone to, when they have a conference call, take that conference, call outside and walk for 20 minutes, right? I think that’s the easy thing to do. I know some people who do a few push ups just to get the blood flowing during the day, right? And not that it’s that it’s good, because it’s a push up, right? It’s just that it’s moving muscles and getting blood flowing throughout the body. But look like I go to a gym every morning. Right? For two reasons. One, I enjoy practicing yoga. So I think like doing it in a community community setting, right? So I go to the gym for that. And to I am the probably one of the extreme people in terms of routine, right? Like, I want to stick to my routine as much as possible. Because I believe routine frees us. And part of my routine is both going to the gym, showering at the gym, getting ready dressed, and starting my day, the same way every day. Right. And for me also includes fasting, but doing that routine every morning. So I’m not against the gym, as long as you’re doing it for the right reason.

David Ralph [31:34]
Now that interests me back. So you think that routine actually gives you structure to control other aspects of your life, you have to start the day in the same sort of organized state

David Hauser [31:48]
and organized but it removes decisions and questions and things should I do this or that right? Like, I know that I take meeting starting this time, I know that I stopped at this time, I know that I am ready to start my day by this time, right? Like these things, although rigid, really freed me up because in the morning, I’m not making a decision. Should I get on my computer? Or should I go do this or not? Like I take my daughter to school, I go to the gym, I come back like it is a consistent routine each morning. And even the same with clothes, right? Like it’s a pair of jeans and a T shirt the same? Like I have a probably about 50 of these kind of solid color t shirts, right? Like, why make a decision about that if I don’t need to? So removing it just making it a routine, I think opens it up.

David Ralph [32:39]
Yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree with you. And I know people like Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs, and many people take away that decision making and just sort of get on with their life. So you’ve got a book out. So you got the book out that sort of channels, all your advice, who is it for what kind of person should be rushing down to your local Amazon to get it.

David Hauser [33:00]
So be coming out shortly. And I think it’s really for anyone who is looking to get past struggles or, you know, roadblocks they found in their own health and wellness journey, right. And, and whatever that is, it could be losing weight, or could be gaining weight and muscle. It could be improving sleep, changing supplementation routines, improving diet, whatever it is, but I think it’s for the person that has been frustrated with just doing the same thing we’ve been told, right? And we’ve all been told, go to the gym, eat less food, and you’ll be fine. Right. And that’s not working, like quite quickly that is not working for for the population as a whole. And I think most people just become frustrated and just give up at some point. And my message to people is, is that there is hope there and there is no reason to give up. Like, I dealt with a tremendous amount of shame and frustration and blame for years with my own self. But today, I’ve kind of pushed past that. And it creeps in every now and then right. Like it never goes away. But I found the tools to make change. And

David Ralph [34:12]
that’s what’s important. And you feel great. You feel really good. Or do you just feel like Yeah, yeah, I’m still working progress.

David Hauser [34:20]
I think we’re always a work in progress. Right. And I This works in both directions. So I feel great today. Right? And and I want to feel even better tomorrow. And honestly, I don’t remember what it felt like to feel bad before. I know that it was bad. But I don’t remember what it felt like. And I think that’s what happens with these small improvements in either direction, right? The way we get sick and unhealthy is that each day we lose a tiny bit. Right? a tiny bit more. And then all of a sudden, 15 years later, we wake up and I’m like, wow, I feel really bad. But each along the way, it felt normal, right? It just felt like oh, yeah, it’s the same as yesterday, same as yesterday. And it’s true, as we as we improve and we optimize, right? That we say okay, it feels normal. Now, this state where I’m in, what can I do is my next step, right and, and not to be, make it a challenge or make it difficult or like but it is a never ending journey. in a very positive way.

David Ralph [35:20] All Posts
Maybe this is the part of the show that we’ve been building up to which we call the Sermon on the mic, when we get to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And maybe you’ll go to a very young version, or maybe your go to the unhealthy version of David totally up to you. But I’m going to play the music. And when it fades Europe, this is the Sermon on the mind.

David Hauser [36:05]
So talking to myself, when I was younger, I’d say when I was probably in high school just before that the two pieces of advice that I would give myself the first thing, continue to do what you love, right? And make sure that no matter what it is that you’re doing, you love it every day. And and for me, I found that love in entrepreneurship. But no matter what it was, I kind of want to reiterate to myself to find that love. And I think that’s where success came from. Right. And I’ve always been driven by success. I think the second piece, and this much more talks to where the book is today is really start to question and think about critically, the things that that you believe are absolutely truth when it comes to health and wellness and your body. Right, I hope that you can understand and start to question those things that we’ve been told. And, and open your mind to possibilities, the same way you did with with business and other things and, and have a skill to do so do that in other areas. To me, those are the most the two most impactful pieces of advice I could give myself. And

yeah,

David Ralph [37:34]
great advice. Great advice for every one of our listeners listening today. So Sir, what’s the number one best way that our audience who’ve been listening today can connect with you,

David Hauser [37:44]
you can find me at David Hauser calm or evolve book calm book will be coming out soon. But you know, really what I love to do is hear from people about their journeys. And you know, both in entrepreneurship and health and wellness. And my contact information is right on the website. So it’s quite easy. And although I am on social media, I don’t use it very often. We didn’t discuss that. But I remove that from my life in the last two years. But there are still profiles, I just don’t really log on to them.

David Ralph [38:19]
I agree with you and exactly the same. There’s there’s there’s archive remnants of myself across the world, but other than the podcast. That’s pretty much all I do. David, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again when you got more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots, and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures David Hauser. Thank you so much.

David Hauser [38:44]
Thank you.

David Ralph [38:48]
Mr David Hauser. So there is advice there? But where do you want to take it or not. But I do think that the key thing to that episode is just because it works for somebody else doesn’t mean that it’s going to work for you. You know, we’ve got to almost experiment on our own bodies and find out you know, what’s good for ourselves. I certainly do not overeat at all. And I do drink a lot of water. So that kind of helps me I think and I don’t drink any alcohol at all. Now other people might say oh no, I need a few pints in the evening. I need face and I need for fine. You know, just do what you need to do. But does it make you feel happier? Does it make you feel more content? Do you feel more energy? And I don’t know. So how many people out there listening but once you hit 40 I tell you what, if you’re not careful, you start stiffening up you really do. And so that movement that David was talking about, I think is the key. You’re gonna keep moving all the way through and too much sitting in a chair sitting on the sofa is not good, says a podcaster who spends most of his time sitting in a chair. Until next time, thank you so much for listening to this episode is it if it has inspired even drop us a line let us know how has inspired you to change your life go in a different direction and we will share with our listeners. Until next time. See again David

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