David Lee Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing David Lee
My guest today, on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots business coaching podcast is David Lee.
He is a man who is often referred to as the man of many visions.
And when you see in bold type on his website “The best way to predict how a man will operate in the future, is see what he did in the past” you know that he is perfect for a show like Join Up Dots
His colorful career spans over six decades and includes an array of expertise including designer, marriage and family therapist, hypnotherapist, inventor, marketing executive, mechanical engineer and entrepreneur.
Born and raised in Chicago, Illinois, he migrated to California to attend California Institute of Technology (Cal Tech) in Pasadena in 1948, where he received a Bachelor of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering.
With his studies completed he set to work, changing the way that life was supposed to be, not least allowing humans to leave Earth and land on over planets.
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His background includes supervising the mechanical design of the rocket engine for Lunar Excursion Module that landed the first astronauts on the moon.
He also designed a hermetically-sealed explosive release mechanism for satellites.
If that is not good enough, he turned his attention on the toy market and designed the talking mechanism for the Chatty Cathy Doll, the first ever talking doll, a favorite for children from 1959 – 1965.
And now after leaving his diverse and highly successful career, he shifted his focus to what is now known as True Fortunes.
As he says “TrueFortunes is my very first venture with no purpose, no redeeming value and no prospect of remuneration. I’m old enough to have given up saving for my old age, old enough to have more sense but not old enough to stop caring – so let’s have some fun!”
So what is his current passion, and why does he now after many many years of high achievement see fun as so important?
And what would he say his biggest achievement was in life? Or perhaps it is still in the future?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr David Lee
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During the show we discussed such weighty topics with David Lee such as:
How the birth of True Fortunes came about and what he hopes to do with the platform in the future.
David tells us all, about his dysfunctional family and how it made life very difficult for him going forward but he took steps to not let it hold him back.
We discuss the disconnect at Nasa between the engineers and astronauts and how the two never mixed socially or professionally, no matter that they were on the same mission.
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Audio Transcription Of David Lee Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:25]
Good morning to you. Good morning across the world, thank you very much for being here on join up dots live from the UK, blasting across the world connecting with the motivational the inspirational and of course, the conversation or folk out there. And today’s guest I hope he doesn’t mind me saying this is a thing, officially the oldest gentleman that we’ve had on the show, so he said in the benchmark to what can be achieved. He is a man who is often referred to as the man of many visions, and when you see him both type and his website, the best way to predict how a man will operate in the future, is see what he did in the past. You know, that is perfect for a show like join up dots. Now his colorful career spans over six decades and includes an array of expertise, including designer marriage and family therapist, hypnotherapist inventor, marketing executive, mechanical engineer, and entrepreneur. Now he was born and raised in Chicago, Illinois, he migrated to California to attend California Institute of Technology Caltech, in Pasadena in 1948, where he received a Bachelor of Science degree in mechanical engineering. With a studies completed he set to work changing the way that life was supposed to be, not least allowing humans to leave Earth and land on other planets. Yes, he’s background includes supervising the mechanical design of the rocket engine for lunar excursion module, but landed the first astronauts on the moon, he also design a hermetically sealed explosive release mechanism for satellites. And if that is not good enough, he turned his attention on the toy market and design the talking mechanism, but a chatty Cathy doe the first ever talking dog, a favorite for children from 1959 to 1965. And now, after leaving these diverse and highly successful career, he shifted his focus to what he’s now known as true fortunes, as he says, true fortunes is my first very venture with no purpose, no redeeming value and no prospect of remuneration. I’m old enough now to have given up saving for my old age old enough to have more sense, but not old enough to stop caring. So let’s have some fun, great stuff. So what is his current passion? And why does he now after many, many years of high achievement Steve been so important? And what would you say his biggest achievement was in life? Or perhaps Easton in the future? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start joining up dance with the one and only Mr. David Lee. Good morning, Mr. Lee, how are you? I’m good. How are you? I am always good. I’m always good. I am a podcaster for a living. So it’s not it’s not like work. Is it? Evans at all? No, it’s not. I obviously, as I said in the introduction, and hopefully you don’t mind me saying that you are our oldest ever guessed. tell the audience how old you are. Because it shocked me actually. But you’ve got so many more things coming on. You’re, you’re still focused, you’re still creating, you’re still brilliantly inventive. And you’re still getting out of bed at the crack of dawn to be on podcasts and things.
David Lee [3:24]
Well, what keeps me going is there’s always more projects to do, or things to learn. more places to explore.
David Ralph [3:35]
And how old are you? You? You kept that bit secret?
David Lee [3:39]
Oh, I forgot about that. 87.
David Ralph [3:41]
So So do you feel like life is speeding up? Do you feel like you’ve got more things that you want to do now? Because it certainly seems I’m only 48. But to me seems like it’s getting faster and faster every day.
David Lee [3:59]
No, enough for me. I know that’s true for some people. But if you if you get up in the morning, and you look ahead to the day, and there’s just all kinds of things to do. Most of them are enjoyable. You don’t have that. Life doesn’t speed up. In fact, it slows down. It slows down so
David Ralph [4:19]
I had more time I can take it easy. Now. I can rest knowing that I’ve got years and years of slowing down in front of me.
David Lee [4:26]
If you wish. It’s up to you.
David Ralph [4:28]
I wish that’s what I wish Mr. Lee, that’s what I wish. So Have you always been an inventor? Have you always been somebody that looks at things and thinks this is a better way of doing it? Or did it come later on in life through your sort of education
David Lee [4:42]
go? I was always that way. I got it from my grandmother grandfather, who was an innovator. He was the first person in Winona, Minnesota to have electric light.
David Ralph [4:54]
And he all these friends were jealous were they did they all come around and want to sit in these house all night? What was it that you all want to come down and sit in it in his house because he had the electric?
David Lee [5:05]
Before he put it in his garden. It was a first electric light in Sedona and went on to Minnesota. And as a kid, I used to sit at my desk whittling out little toys, or magic tricks. In fact, I still have one sitting somewhere in a box in my garage. So I will always have that have.
David Ralph [5:26]
And the people were happy with that they they didn’t shout witchcraft, witchcraft. I don’t understand where that lights coming from.
David Lee [5:33]
Yes, they were quite a ways back in went on a Minnesota.
David Ralph [5:37]
So obviously, it’s massively different from there to now. And I would love to have a time machine to go back in time and sort of see how things operated. You’ve you believed in both? What is the biggest shift? You think from where we are now to where we were bad
David Lee [5:55]
phone in your pocket? Oh, I haven’t got one on him. So I’m You don’t? Now I don’t have a phone at all. You’re one of the smartest people around? I’m gonna
David Ralph [6:04]
tell my wife that. Am I going to say David Lee said that? Yeah, no, I don’t have a phone at all I have I have no need for it. I feel that once I’ve done my work, my talking is done. I don’t feel the need to connect with people constantly.
David Lee [6:17]
You have very wise web.
David Ralph [6:19]
So you think the telephone is that the change is is it the telephone or the being able to connect so easily.
David Lee [6:26]
It’s not only that, it’s that now, people connect by messaging, they send each other these little texts Well, when you’re with someone in the same room, and you can see them and feel them and hear their voice and get a sense of their electric field. And no getting a little far out here. But I do practice that by so I know a lot about what someone is about. Just by being near them
David Ralph [6:58]
in town on the phone, you can’t buy the messaging, you don’t get any steer.
David Lee [7:04]
If you’re talking on the phone, at least you and I you’re getting my voice. And you’re getting a sense of who I am from, like tone by how much I vary the tone, the volume, all kinds of cues. But if it’s a text message, nothing.
David Ralph [7:20]
Yeah, I know my kids, my kids on texting all the time. They they text from upstairs, they text from downstairs, they text from in the toilet, wherever they go. They’re texting somebody, I don’t know what they’ve got to say. Now, with your background that no actually we won’t go with the background. Let’s start with true fortunes. Because true fortunes is what you’re doing at the moment. And this is you, as you say, your very first venture with no purpose. How did it come to you? And what made you go ahead with it? If
David Lee [7:47]
there’s no purpose? Well, I have a granddaughter who is a very beautiful girl. And she was looking for something to do. And we were sitting there in my left gorilla. Nice. What is it that you’re really good at that you’d love to do? And dilemma cupcakes? I make wonderful cupcakes. I said, Well, why not get cupcakes. And I’ll tell you what, I’ll give you a way of making your cupcakes unique. We call them fortune cakes. And we’ll put a little fortune on each one. And she said, wonderful. So I sat down a computer and I generated a whole bunch of these sometimes funny sometimes right? fortune, maybe 50, maybe 100. The next time I got together, I said I’m all ready to go. And she said I changed my mind.
I’ve got to do with these selections. I said well, why not?
So I did.
And about that time, I said, Look, I’ve got all this experience of life. And all these years of doing psychotherapy with people. And I know, I guess a little more than the average bear. So why not write a book on how to be happy? So I did? Where is this all leading to? Or is that the point is not leading to anywhere you really don’t care, right? I don’t know if I can help one person out of depression, out of discouragement of life. If I can help one person feel better about being here in this absolutely insane world. I’ve done my job. That’s enough. If I can 10 or 100, that’s even better.
David Ralph [9:26]
Well, I think you’re going to change my life just getting through this interview, you would have changed my life. So true fortunes is your platform. But who who would be coming to it who’s going to be attracted to it?
David Lee [9:38]
Anyone who appreciates weather rise sense of humor.
David Ralph [9:42]
So give give give us an example for the listeners out there who are now googling it. Give them an example of what kind of things that they might be getting coming to your website.
David Lee [9:51]
Okay, here’s the guy holding his glasses looking at you. He’s got finger pointed up. And he’s obviously telling you something really important. And here’s what it is the next time, you are absolutely positively sure that you are right. Remember this message at the bottom? There’s a good chance that you’re wrong.
David Ralph [10:12]
Which is Yeah, which is absolutely true. So it’s just it’s a place where they can come and get sort of confirmation. That name Okay, confirmation that the world is a crazy place. Just a place of hope. Is that what true fortunes is about?
David Lee [10:28]
Here’s another message. The New Year stands before you like a chapter in a book waiting to be written. It’s your story to write.
David Ralph [10:37]
Always why stuff this is why stuff Mr. Lee so have you written all these yourself? Or is it stuff that you you’re you’re nicking off the internet, as we would say in the UK?
David Lee [10:47]
Some of it? I wrote myself so it is rank plagiarize ation, something I’ve always been good at.
David Ralph [10:55]
So have you have you looked at other people’s stuff and thought I could take a bit of that I could take a bit of this and make it into something different?
David Lee [11:01]
Yes. I searched the web. For quotations. I searched the web for weird images.
David Ralph [11:08]
You don’t be careful there, you don’t know what you’re going to end up seeing?
David Lee [11:12]
Well, yes. So most of my images come from a paid service, so that I don’t get into any trouble there. I’ll give you one more message. And the picture is a very, let’s say capable woman drawing a sword, it looks like a samurai sword. And the caption is, today is your day to be patient. Everything will work out. Okay. And then at the bottom, if it doesn’t, you could kick ass to borrow
David Ralph [11:40]
once again, wise words, wives words, indeed. So so it is a real passion for you. And it’s great to see you having some fun and putting it out there. What was your life not always fun in the background? Or when you were doing things? Like for the first astronauts on the moon, which is an amazing statement to have on your CV? Your resume? Was Was that fun? Or was that just worked? It was both
David Lee [12:04]
working on that engine was an incredible challenge is a very complicated piece of work. And it worked perfectly. And in all of those many, many parts. I think we had two or three that were designed, grow and had to be redone. It was there were crew, maybe 2025 people just doing the mechanical design.
David Ralph [12:32]
And then did you remember those days visit? The visibly?
David Lee [12:35]
Yes, yes, I remember the bad and the good. The project director was a scoundrel. He would get into the meeting. And he would lie to the customer about progress. And I would be in the same meeting. And you could tell from the expression on my face that I didn’t like what was going on. So they come to me after the meeting. And you control the way you’re looking at. And here’s this guy, lied, cheated. Project was over. They kept me on it. Doing things like quality assurance and change orders drove me crazy. That’s what got me to quit the company that did the engine and shot at me in consulting. And then so
David Ralph [13:26]
so you was running away from pain at that stage. He you’re a man always seeks pleasure and enjoyment in his work.
David Lee [13:33]
Oh, yes. And if you want to get rid of me in a hurry, put me in a job where I can’t enjoy it where it’s boring, repetitive, and creative. Go to my boss and I’d say what do we have coming up that we’ve never done before? And I want to do that. I want to have you said well, we need we need an explosive device to release the shield over a satellite. It needs a shield woman’s going through the atmosphere. And then as soon as it gets up high enough, this clamshell blows apart. So I designed that. Then we went on with explosive bold. Have you created a whole new field? Some of my inventions imagine I saw they’re being used. So how
David Ralph [14:16]
do you test these things? Mr. Made? I’ve always wondered this? How do you test these? That is going to work once it gets up into
David Lee [14:22]
space? Well, that’s the thing. You don’t really know. You do as much testing on the ground as you can and then you hope that it’s going to work up there. And sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. One of the things that we worked on was a little a probe to go to the moon to circle around the moon, pioneer five, I think it was it had a tank full of liquid in it and it spun. And no one knew what would happen with a tank with liquid spinning in space. So we built a model to fifth scale. We put leaders in instruments so that we could put it in the zero G plane and for three weeks, I flew zero G. And then did you learn enough?
David Ralph [15:10]
Did you know? Because it sounds like it’s all guesswork when at that stage?
David Lee [15:14]
Yes, because we didn’t have computers at the model the fluid. So we found out exactly how to make the tanker fluid. So that this thing works. And it did work very nicely.
David Ralph [15:25]
So how connected? Were you personally with the astronauts? And sort of Neil Armstrong, Xena the legends? Were they in a totally different part of the organization? Did you all sit down having lunch together? How connected were the engineers with the actual astronauts?
David Lee [15:41]
I never got near an astronaut.
The closest I got was like occasional trips down before the cape for a machine that was on one of the rockets.
David Ralph [15:54]
And is that a regret that you never actually got to speak to them and see how they were using senior devices.
David Lee [16:02]
I never even thought about that until you mentioned it this way that
David Ralph [16:05]
it would bother me it would be in my mind all the time thinking, you know, have I done this well enough? Is it? Is it good enough for
David Lee [16:11]
us? Well, there was a great separation between the machines I designed and the astronauts. And that separation was NASA. NASA ran the program. We contracted to NASA, but there was never any connection, which is a shame that away. Yeah,
David Ralph [16:30]
I think he’s a big shame. I think he would be different nowadays. So so you you you never had to dream yourself to go out there into space. You were quite happy being down on the ground sending other people up?
David Lee [16:41]
Oh, yes. Very happy with it.
David Ralph [16:43]
And what about now I bet if I gave you the opportunity now to go up into space and have a look around? would you do it?
David Lee [16:49]
Oh, no, no curiosity about that. You see all of our space probes and space activity is intense audience gathering surveillance, or scientists wanting to know more about stuff out there. And we’re ignoring our biggest challenge, which is what’s happening right here on Earth.
David Ralph [17:14]
Yeah, absolutely. I can see that.
David Lee [17:16]
You’re familiar with the doomsday clock? Yes,
David Ralph [17:19]
yes, absolutely. It’s
David Lee [17:23]
what we need to do is take this amazing scientific capability we have and use it to help people achieve a state of freedom and happiness.
David Ralph [17:36]
I was expecting more from you than I thought you were going to go on one of your passionate rants. So you’ve been people are happy, vain the world? Because it that seems too simplistic somehow I feel it’s true. But it seems too simple as well.
David Lee [17:50]
It’s very simplistic. But that’s the key. And the best way to be happy is to help other people
David Ralph [18:00]
can save that. And so has your life been always helping other people? Or has it been directed? Have you always been told what you need to do? Because I can see, you know, you’ve got your spy stuff. You’ve got your satirize, you’ve got a chatty Cathy Doe, which obviously helped loads of people, when When was the first time that you actually bought, I’m going to do this for other people, and you weren’t directed by an employee or a boss.
David Lee [18:25]
I’ve always enjoyed helping other people. But I didn’t realize that I wasn’t on the right path at all. You see, I grew up in a family that was insane. They were incredibly destructive people, they ate each other up. And I won’t go into detail, let us say that it was got hit with psychosis and upended suicides and whatever you so I grew up in, listen up to them environment. And so I devoted most of my life including though, getting over that becoming a decent human being.
David Ralph [19:03]
So was it because of your childhood vape that made you go off? Was that the starting point to your path? Or did your path start later on because of it?
David Lee [19:12]
Well, my path really started.
When I realized I had become a consultant, I was working for a consulting company. And I was dealing with engineers all the time. And I realized that engineers are totally out of contact with their emotions. It’s called skipped, right? And it because of that they were very difficult to work with. And I’ve been a therapy for most of my life and the senior meal is nervous or having all kinds of foreign invader paid for your and you get to healthy fall, I’m going to become one. So I went back to school, I became a therapist into practice in Beverly Hills, and build it up a little bit. It took me around three years to realize that engineering wasn’t that bad. It wasn’t the engineering that was bad. It was the engineers Yeah. Realize that. And that I was rather good at engineering. I went back, like in a somewhat different way. I became a sales,
which is what I do now.
David Ralph [20:27]
So in a way you’ve been engineering your life, right from the word go.
David Lee [20:32]
You can I can. Anyone can. It’s just a question no first, realizing that you can do it. And secondly, finding out how, and there isn’t a set that you can’t say I’m going to do a B, C, D, it’s different for everyone.
You can change yourself the way you are right now.
person you are sitting here, talking enemy. That’s the person you’re going to be for a while. But you can set up what I call an environment for change. which is which is the classic sort of Darwin theory isn’t it that if you put yourself in a situation, or an environment, you will naturally change to fit that environment. Exactly. Everything you do affects your brain, the brain is incredibly plastic. So no matter what it is, no matter what you do, say here. It affects your brain, it creates new pathways, great neurons, whatever you only most of its miniscule, very small, you wouldn’t ever notice it. But even a small input over a long time will change your brain. You’re not the person you were 20 years ago, or 40 years ago now. Thank God,
David Ralph [21:52]
thank God, I look back on that person. And sometimes I blush,
David Lee [21:56]
I do put them blush.
David Ralph [22:02]
And so it is true. And you think that you are, as Jim Rowan said, You are the average of the five people you surround yourself by creating that environment, you can’t fight it, you are naturally going to achieve the average.
David Lee [22:17]
That’s right. One of my messages is it’s labeled. Automatic income predictor. And there’s a picture of a calculator with a man behind it. And then underneath it says, the average income of the people you hang out with.
David Ralph [22:36]
So when when you invented the chatty Cathy doll, which I’ve only heard about To be honest, but I know kids, even today will have dolls but make noise and you can squeeze them and they chat and stuff. What was that very simple device or was that huge? The complicated in a very simple thing.
David Lee [22:56]
It was a very simple device, it was just a little Victrola phonograph.
David Ralph [23:01]
So it was a little record player.
David Lee [23:04]
There was a record player, yes. And the live disc inside had seven tracks or so. And it was random, which one would pick up each one had a different message. And I was working for my tablet to time. And they’ve been trying to get that thing to work. And it was purely mechanical and couldn’t get any volume out of it. It seems that in the beginning recordings were, quote, Hillandale. That means the needle went up and down. Yeah. And then we got stereo, and the stereo, they go up and down inside the side. And we were trying to get sound out of that with a side to side recording. And one day I was at the recording studio and a nice old guy who was in Hollywood, try him the day. Right did and that sound just came screaming out of that, though, is a very simple change. Going back to an earlier technology.
David Ralph [24:07]
That once again, you saw something that was already out there and you bought it in you, you don’t reinvent the wheel, you take other people’s wheels,
David Lee [24:14]
sometimes. Sometimes I go something completely new. I was still inventing day before yesterday invented a new kind of damper for buildings to protect them from earthquakes. I’m still selling
David Ralph [24:30]
to come up with something new then Mr. Lee, you know, yeah, at seven years old. You’ve been around for so long? How would you find something new that hasn’t been done? Because I think a lot of my listeners are much younger, and they struggle with trying to find something
Unknown Speaker [24:48]
David Lee [24:51]
see these things come to me because I deal with customers who have problems. So the way to find something new is to find someone the problem.
David Ralph [25:02]
Really, okay, so if you solve that problem, when you’ve got a business?
David Lee [25:06]
Yes, I’ll give you one example. One of the biggest problems in the United States right now is young man who go crazy and shoot up schools. That’s a problem that needs solving.
David Ralph [25:18]
And how would you do that? How would you solve that problem?
David Lee [25:21]
First, how you don’t solve it? You don’t solve it with gun control. Because people in this country are so fond of their guns, but my wife likes guns. She has four guns. She’s an expert shot. And you ask people to give up their guns. It’s hopeless. They got the NRA, you’ve got all the rednecks. Impossible. You can’t ask the police to keep tabs on these people. Because they’re too busy chasing criminals and solving crimes. And putting security in schools. Good luck. Let’s say you’ve got real security in a school and the young man wants to get in there. Just shoot out the security. So what I’m proposing is a solution is to organize the parents because they’re the ones who are interested.
David Ralph [26:17]
Everyone be naked, so they can’t can’t carry anything around with them.
David Lee [26:21]
Well, you see, these young men who shoot up school, they’re pretty obvious. For one thing, we know their sex I met, you don’t find women shooting up schools, you know that they’re misfits. In fact, if you were to just ask the schoolchildren, they could identify these people where they are with live, etc. And they, they’re all psychotic. And they post, they put things up on Facebook and Twitter.
David Ralph [26:54]
So let’s get them all Nike, Ben, just a very small percentage.
David Lee [26:58]
That’s right. So are you you have to do is organize parents who are interested to keep an eye on these people who have little surveillance, and to maintain communication with the local police. So that if there is an alert, the police don’t sit around saying they act because they’ve got a parent group on their ass. So the solution is identify the people who can have an effect, and then carry it out. I’ve got to call in to the city attorney of Los Angeles, we’re going to see, sooner or later, I’m going to find somebody who’s a cheap. That’s a wonderful idea. Let’s do it.
David Ralph [27:44]
Well, good on. Yeah, I hope you I hope you do it. And I hope you know you don’t take my advice, because you obviously didn’t like that idea at all. And I don’t blame you. So with your life, what if you look back and you had to have one highlight that you would want people to remember you for? Well,
David Lee [28:00]
what would it be? It’s when I married my present wife. She’s my third wife. And she is most wonderful thing of my life.
David Ralph [28:09]
And how long you been married to her
David Lee [28:11]
25 years? And so she’s she’s the one she’s the one who’s going to be there till the end? I would hope so. I have to stay around because I take care of her good.
David Ralph [28:21]
Yeah, good. Good, john. Yeah, well, that’s a lovely answer. It wasn’t what I was expecting. I was expecting something spice related or some kind of engineering, but now you’ve taken it to a human, which in its way, brings it to true fortunes as well, doesn’t it
David Lee [28:37]
not see the engineering and all these gadgets, and all these smartphones and computer programs, it just amusements, the real heart of the matter is in your friends, your close friends, your relatives, children, your parents, the community. That’s where the the actual is.
David Ralph [29:02]
And that’s, that’s where we forget, don’t worry, we get all our heads into these screens all the time. And we don’t realize people out there wanting to talk to us. I want to show you a shape. So what I’m going to do now, sir, I’m going to take you back in time to bring the show to an end. And this is the bit that we call the Sermon on the mic when we’re going to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back and speak to the young Mr. Lee, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give? Well, we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the music. And when it fades, you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [29:45]
We go with the best of the show.
David Lee [30:00]
Okay, here goes, I’m talking to a kid, he’s around eight years old. He’s a nice looking kid. But shy. My goodness, he’s desperately afraid to be with people. And first thing I’d say is, you know, it’s very understandable that you would be this afraid to deal with people. Because all the people in your life treat you badly one way or another. Even those that say they’re trying to help you really, yeah, pretty bad people. Now, what I want you to do, is to realize that you don’t have to be the way these other people are. The things you can do even now to change it. The first thing to do is to start speaking back to the more and let them know what you want. And to assert yourself. And the minute that you start to say what your life has to be like that you don’t have to take the music lessons, if you don’t have to take the French lessons that you can be open and honest about some of this stuff in your family that’s going on it is simply horrible. The minute you start doing bad things are going to change. When you get to the age where you can enter therapy on your own. Don’t wait. The minute you have the were with all the time and the opportunity. Get yourself to the most competent, psycho therapist you can and begin the process of coming back to a happy life. Then Devote yourself not only to your own happiness, but to the happiness of other people. Because that’s the best way I know, to be a happy person. devote yourself to service. Realize that you can’t help everyone. But there’s a lot that you can do. Good luck.
David Ralph [32:01]
That’s a lovely advice for the young David Lee. Yeah, lovely advice, Mr. Lee. So for the people that have been listening and want to find out more about you, what’s the best place to connect with you?
David Lee [32:13]
True fortunes tr up for to you. Yes.
David Ralph [32:19]
And if you want to connect with David, you can come across to the show notes of the show. And we will have all the links there. But it’s been an absolute delight speaking to you, Mr. Mr. Lee, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots of your life. And please come back again when you’ve got more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Mr. David Lee, thank you so much.
David Lee [32:43]
David Ralph [32:45]
Wow, 87 years old at seven years old I made that show a lot shorter than normal. I hope you can understand. But God he’s scoping is emailing. He’s doing everything I might that’s it. You can bear to use a computer. absolute honor to spend some time with Mr. The and what he’s done. Not just for himself, but for the world and breaking barriers and breaking boundaries and setting records and stuff. Absolutely inspiration. So if you think that you’re you know, you’ve left it too late band thing at seven years old, and he’s still inventing, he’s still bringing things to the world. It’s never too late. You just need to start. So thank you so much for listening as always to join up dots. Thank you so much for listening to all the episodes. And until the next time. We’re gonna be man, Sam.
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