Dyscalculia Expert And Founder Of Tables Fables Rebecca Ginger Joins The Show
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Introducing Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger from Tables Fables is my guest today, on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots business coaching podcast.
She is a lady who first connected with the show as a listener.
Then she became a guest on the show back on episode
Then a long with her business partner became clients of mine, and now im pleased to say is one of my best friends I have.
What i Love about her is she is a lady who is moving forward to where she wants to be by hook or by crook.
She is doing stuff daily, turning up when things are hard and making things happen.
How The Dyscalculia Dots Joined Up
Now her business started in the way you will have heard us talk about time and time again throughout the episodes.
She found a problem in her life, then realised this was a problem that thousands of others were suffering with and developed a solution.
As she says “I was very dyslexic as a child, and rather failed at school, until the last year when I worked out a system to remember things.
Which lead med to my passion project. “
The work that will be her legacy is called Table Fables, which has been created to help children everywhere learn their times tables.
Not in a boring way, but in a fun and enjoyable way, against the classic repeat in a drone until you fall into a coma method.
The technique is based on the peg memory system.
This is when children get the ability to remember the numerical position of items on a list, in or out of sequence.
The peg system has been proven to be one of the most effective memory aids used to date.
Each number, from 1 to 12, is represented by a character.
Two characters (e.g. 8 Snowman & 3 mouse) interact to create a funny, short story, which reveals the answer.
This has already helped thousands of children already and hopefully millions more in the future.
So has dreaming her passion business made it easier or actually harder to grow the success she now has?
And where have the been the key areas of growth that our listeners can duplicate in their own online ventures?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Rebecca Ginger
Show Highlights
During the show we discussed such weighty subjects with dyscalculia expert Becky Ginger such as:
Rebecca talks about the problems she had as a child when she struggled with learning and often was made to feel stupid.
We talk about the issues of creating the business at the dining room table and how planning is key. You can never get too detailed in the planning stage.
Why building multiple income streams should always be the best route that a business works on – dont put your eggs all in one basket.
Rebecca shares her process of finding her ideal freelance hiring and how it has reaped dividends big time.
and lastly……..
Why sometimes you have to punch the shark in the nose and do the hard difficult things when tackling a business.
How To Connect With Table Fables
Return To The Top Of Dyscalculia
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Full Transcription of Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger Interview
Intro [0:01]
Life shouldn’t be hard life should be a fun filled adventure every day. So now start joining up dots tap into your talents, your skills, your God given gifts and tell your boss, you don’t deserve me. I’m out of here. It’s time for you to smash that alarm clock. And start getting the dream business and wife you will, of course, are dreaming of. Let’s join your host, David route from the back of his garden in the UK, or wherever he might be today with another JAM PACKED episode of the number one hit podcast. Join Up Dots.
David Ralph [0:40]
Yeah, good morning to you. Good morning, th young humans. And thank you for listening to another episode of Join Up Dots. Have you ever thought what the word dis calcula means? Have you woken up a poor angle and I’ve dreamt about this calculator? I need to know the answer. Well, I’m gonna give you the answer because today’s expert on the show knows all about this. And she’s a lady who first connected with the show as a listener. Then she became a guest on the show back here about four years ago. And then along with a business partner became clients of mine. And now I’m pleased to say she’s one of the best friends I have. And I don’t say that lightly. She’s one of the best friends I have. And what I love about her is that she’s a lady who’s moving forward to where she wants to be by hook or by crook. She’s doing stuff daily turning up when things are hard, and making things happen. Now her business started in the way you will have heard us talk about time and time again. Throughout the episodes, she found a problem in her life and realised this was a problem that 1000s of others were suffering with, and developed a solution. As she says I was very dyslexic as a child, and rather failed at school until the last year when I worked out a system to remember things which led me to my passion project, that work will be her legacy. And it’s called Table fables which has been created to help children everywhere, learn their times tables, and not in a boring way, but in a fun and enjoyable way against a classic rip pay in a drone until you fall into a coma method. Now the technique is based on the peg memory system. And this is when children get the ability to remember the numerical position of items on a list in or out of sequence. And the peg system has been proven to be one of the most effective memory aids used to date. Each number in this case from one to 12 is represented by a cat. And two characters, eg a snowman and a mouse interact to create a funny short story which they watch. And it reveals the answer and they remember it. And it’s helped 1000s of children already and hopefully millions more in the future. So how’s dreaming her passion business made it easier, or actually harder to grow to success she now has and where have been a key areas of growth for our listeners can duplicate in their own online ventures. Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots for the second time with the one and only Rebecca ginger. Morning, Becky, how are you?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [3:03]
Oh, thank you very much. Thank you for that intro. Yes, I am good. And so lovely to be back.
David Ralph [3:10]
It’s lovely to have you back. Because as I say, you are I think about can’t be more than about three or four people. Through the 1000s of episodes. I’ve actually met you personally. I’ve met you numerous times. I’ve met you in pubs and got a little bit tipsy back in the day. And it’s led us to have a real understanding of kind of each other’s businesses, doesn’t it? Yeah, yeah. No,
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [3:35]
definitely. Definitely. It’s been it’s been great. I mean, you I’ve loved listening to your show. I listen to show every week while I’m doing my cleaning my exercise cleaning, which will I will make into business at one point sometime but anyway, you accompany me, you know, not only your friendship, but every week I listened to your show. I couldn’t I couldn’t do my whole business without your show.
David Ralph [3:56]
Yeah, ah bless bless all of you. But what what I love about your business and what I want to do I want to jump in because I see it as a blueprint of how people can create online businesses. And it hasn’t been easy. It’s been difficult. There’s been cashflow issues, there’s been good times there’s been bad times but you have kept moving forward. But at the bottom, at the bottom, the core of it all, you had a personal problem. And that’s one of those things that people out there should look at when they’re thinking, oh, what should I do? What business should I do? Actually having something in your life that is causing you an issue? It’s a good chance that other people have got the same and then there’s the business, isn’t it? Yeah, no,
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [4:42]
absolutely. Looking back. Yeah, that that is exactly what what it was. It was just I had a real problem. My children couldn’t learn the times tables. I had one child who cared and that’s fine. That was easy. He just did it. You know, I sort of drew some stories for him and concentrate a tiny bit on it. And then the other two were just absolutely hopeless. And it was like bang my head against a brick wall and then took forgotten about during the story for my oldest one, anyway, and then I do some funny stories for them. And then finally they go, they got it. And then then the last one is when when my youngest one, I did it again for them. And then then my friends started hearing about this. And they were going, can you make a book? Can you make a book and I was like, going, you know, my background is TV. And I just didn’t think it would work as well in a book as it would animation. Because you can make it funnier, you can make it shorter, make it faster. And you know, kids take in more information like that, anyway, yeah, definitely look at a problem in your life. See how you can solve it, how you solved it, even if you haven’t solved it yet. Think about how you can solve it. Because you know the problem so well, you’re the person that can solve it. And then yeah, then create a business
David Ralph [5:54]
as I would have probably started looking at your gene pool. But bear in mind where every child who was producing had this kind of issue. I would certainly think to myself, by the time the second one has come along, Aeon. Why is this happening? Oh, it’s me. I’ve been members. So did you kind of just blank it out from yourself? Had you moved on to that point in life, but you don’t really remember what school was like? And you just kind of living your normal day to day?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [6:21]
Well, well, I knew I was dyslexic because I was one of the one of the first children I think you’re called now Jesus. But yeah, I grew up in Edinburgh. And there was this, you know, lots of research and scientists up there. Anyway, we were tested pretty early on because I come from now looking back a long line of Dyslexics who you know, didn’t reading, writing, etc. Wasn’t the favourites anywhere, but they all did really well in business. But, you know, they had secretaries. Jesus, I wish I had a secretary Can somebody give me a secretary anyway, but so I we got I got tested earlier, I was I knew as dyslexic on the mass front, I just thought I was really stupid. I kind of actually was still not dyslexic phase, where everybody just thought it was a middle class, kind of, you know, you’re just dyslexic, you’re actually just stupid. It’s just a sort of, you know, cover up for being stupid. So I even though they had sort of tested me and said it, I didn’t actually believe it. I don’t think my mum believed it. They just thought you’re a bit stupid. You’ve got to work quite hard. And as on the maths front, I just thought was stupid. So I just totally avoided maths, you know, going out splitting bills in restaurants. I just like shy away any mental arithmetic, I would just go Oh, my God, please. No, no, no, no, no, I actually wasn’t I had one really amazing teacher at school in secondary school. And, and she taught it in a way that I understood it and went from the bottom set to the top set. But as soon as I got into the top set, I just didn’t understand everything they said. And it was just gobbledygook because they were expecting you to do lots of mental arithmetic. And I can’t I’ve struggled as I am now I’ve discovered thanks to you, David. Disco, Kulik. And I sort of didn’t think that was me. But anyway, if Yeah, I am. So looking back, I just thought of stupid, I thought was really, really stupid. So that was all. That’s what school taught me.
David Ralph [8:13]
Because when I was at school, we actually had a stupid table. And they would make you sit at a table because you were stupid. And it didn’t matter whether you were stupid, or you just wasn’t paying attention. They would say right, go to the stupid table. Now, I can’t believe I would do that nowadays. But, but if there are people out there with stupid tables, I’m ashamed of you. I’m ashamed of you. Because every issue has has a base on it, doesn’t it? There’s a reason why people can’t learn these things.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [8:44]
Yeah, I mean, I get it. They don’t have stupid tables anymore. But what the problem is, children do and aren’t stupid. And they know where they come in the pecking order of a class. So it doesn’t matter whether you’ve got a stupid table or not, you they often put into ability tables, they won’t be called Stupid tables, but they definitely have ability tables. Or they’ll try and put somebody who understands a subject that was somebody that you know, that is struggling a little bit. So you know, children know where they come in, in a class. So as for whether you’re not paying attention, I often didn’t pay attention to this because it didn’t make sense what was being said at school. My problem is, with education is that they’ve checked to have changed things, but what the root cause of the teaching hasn’t changed. It’s still rote learning is still in schools at all, you know, six times six, you know, seven times a week or whatever, and you’ve got to expect to answer Yeah. You’re you’re just expected to know the answer and they’ve got nothing other than rote learning. At the moment or in English, they’ve got they have changed things a little bit with you know, with certain things in English maths, I just don’t think they’ve moved on at all. They’ve come You know, they’ve got more colourful things, or they’ll sing more songs or whatever. But the root of it all is rote learning. And so yeah, I’m not sure education has moved on that much since our day. And children definitely still know where they come in the pecking order of a classroom, whether you’re sat in a stupid table or not.
David Ralph [10:18]
I wasn’t interested in score, I wanted to be in wham, or something like that, you know, I had bigger dreams in my hands. And it wasn’t learning what seven times eight was. And I always remember that one, because it’s 56. So it’s 5678. That’s yeah, it’s all those kind of little things, which we’re talking about here. But makes it easier to sort of actually remember, you had this idea this, this fascinates me. So you had this idea. Yeah. And millions of people have ideas, millions of people sit around a dining room table, and I say to people, I’ve had this idea. This is a brilliant idea. I’ve been thinking about it for weeks, and people will go, oh, it’s already out there. Oh, it’s never gonna happen. Oh, I know what you’re like, Becky, oh, you have these ideas all the time, you’re never gonna make it happen. And ideas kind of disappear. So how did you make it go from your head to actually something that we can we can buy in is changing people’s lives?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [11:17]
Do you know what I think it was? It was, somebody said, Can you give away a hold on this? I forget. First of all, I sort of sat down with a friend at kitchen table trying to work out whether this was going to work or not, you know, we sort of worked stuff out, we worked out the characters, you know, spent ages and ages. I mean, the amount of hours we spent trying to come up with the characters the stories, changing the stories doing that. So it was sort of like I was working on the side I was being you know, I was being a PA to somebody who didn’t how I did that job but fitted in with the children at the time and then was doing this on the side. And then I know
David Ralph [11:58]
you, you must be the worst PA on the planet. Really?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [12:04]
I still do. The problem is I think I was really good at what I’m better at sorting somebody else’s life out there my own. But they also do really did love me because I kind of was like a therapist as a PA listen to their problems. And they were quite disorganised. So it was quite easy to organise them. Anyway. They’re still I’m still in contact with them. And they still say I was the best pa they ever had. So you know, I’m going to take that one. Anyway, but yeah, it’s going from sitting at a kitchen table that somebody said, right? Okay, Becky, you’re going to we’re going to put the, you know, an hour, you know, four hours worth of lessons on the school, you know, auction night to raise some money. And I was like going oh, no, no, no, no, I’m not ready. I’m not ready. I can’t do that. I can’t do that. Anyway, they did somebody want it. I had to teach their child the child transformed, you know, overnight. You know, that was one child, then somebody another friend, who could you do it for my child? Can you do as much as I did?
David Ralph [13:06]
So you were testing proof of concept. Right? And you wasn’t investing any money into it. You weren’t creating websites and URLs and driving traffic? All you were doing was testing that it works.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [13:19]
Yeah. And I did that literally for about three years. So you know, it was it was a huge amount or
David Ralph [13:26]
what hold you held you back from doing like three kids. And already thinking I know it works on me. I know it works on my kids. And these other two strangers, they’re good with it now. All steam ahead. Well, a I wanted
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [13:40]
to make sure that they retain the information further down the line. I didn’t want it, you know, you could teach them. I think you could teach anybody rote learning, you know, you know, if you just say it enough times on that day, but will they remember two weeks? Will they remember it? Two months later, we’ll remember. Yeah. It also remember that my, my confidence has been so bashed by school, it’s quite hard, if you’re quite unconfident to suddenly go, yo, yo, this is brilliant. This is a brilliant idea. And also, I wanted to check the word, every single child, like you talked about dyscalculia. You know, that’s where the problem lay. And that’s where things but it actually wasn’t every single child and I wanted to make sure that it did work every single child. So, you know, I was feeling my way through this process. And I didn’t know I didn’t feel that I could, I thought starting up businesses with other people wasn’t so so
David Ralph [14:28]
you have to syndrome. Oh my god, you and you also had that issue that I see with so many people, that they think that what they are creating and putting out there has to be a solution for every single person. You know, I’ll give you a classic example. For years and years. I used to do training courses. I used to stand up in classrooms and 3040 50 people doing training, and I used to look at it after about six weeks and think it make a blind bit of difference. Whatever I’ve taught them they’ve just gone back to It was like a tick box culture, you know? And the managers could say, oh, yeah, you have had the training, you’ve gone in with David for a day, we’re out. But once I got that out of my head thinking, I did what they asked, I provided what they asked if the person isn’t using it behind the scenes. It shouldn’t hold me back. That made things so much easier for when I launched Join Up Dots and moved on you. You can take a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. As I say,
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [15:29]
we don’t know if I’ve, I’ve still got that. No, I can’t, I can’t do that still. We’re just about to launch loads of other products, and the amount of hours of testing that goes into it is ridiculous. And then we just maybe I don’t know whether that’s, there’s probably a floor, but maybe it’s not a floor. I don’t know, it means that I know that when the product is launched, I have absolutely thoroughly tested that I know that the children, all children understand that. I know that they retain the information, I know that it works. I’m not very good at No, I can’t do that. I still
David Ralph [16:05]
know it’s you know, you learn to drive. How many people learn to drive and then become rubbish drivers afterwards, once they pass their test, you know, and I think that’s one of the things that holds people back that desire for perfection for everyone, you know, I will go into a supermarket, I will buy products, they come home, they go into the fridge, and then we look at and we haven’t even opened them and we’ve thrown them out. You know, it’s it’s just a kind of consumer brain block, I think, where we’ve really just got to go. I know it works, I’m providing the service, I’m giving it to the world. If I then don’t want to use it. You know, I tell you what Becky’s thinking about this atop my head. I not so much recently, actually. But in the early days, I used to make 1000s from people buying courses and not even logging in. And I could see that they paid me 500 pounds a year 1000 pounds bear and stuff. Never once logged in, and I did a podcast training calls once to a load of Americans. They paid me $4,000. And I would say out of the 12 people that signed up, only three ever turned up to any of my coaching meetings. And about five of them didn’t ever even log into the system. They just gave me the money.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [17:26]
We have we’ve had that problem. And
David Ralph [17:30]
we’ve got a problem. How is it? It’s not a problem?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [17:33]
No, it’s not a problem and what it is for us, okay, because I’ve talked to so many marketing people now the problem with education, you
David Ralph [17:40]
know, Jerry Maguire, give me the money, didn’t show me the money, but he should have been saying give me the money.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [17:47]
But but the problem with the education is it’s all word of mouth, you basically you cannot put out adverts, and people go Yeah, I’m gonna buy that for my child. It’s like, you can do it for a T shirt, a water bottle, a holiday and whatever. Education and I think health two areas you just cannot like do traditional marketing. So ours is word of mouth that literally education is so hard to break into. But I’m hoping they force fingers. I’m hoping it’s like, you know, once you’ve made it, and once a word of mouth gets out there, then hopefully it’s gonna snowball. This is why I’m really hoping. So if we did have that problem, people buy it. They wouldn’t log on, but then they wouldn’t tell their friends how good it was. That is no good to us. Because then we can’t advertise. We need people to go yeah, this is brilliant, this work. So we have devised a load of things. And this is where I don’t mind making mistakes. Marketing. I do not mind making mistakes. I love making mistakes. Because you always learn and you taught me about David, you definitely taught me that and the book she recommended and the things I’ve read it’s yeah, you just you just try it. You literally just try something does that work? Does it not work, but that’s where we have cashback incentives. So we charge more now and then we give the parents money back if they log on. So we have that problem, find a solution. And now it really works because parents are charged more they don’t want to pay more every month. And then so to stop being paid, you know stop having to pay every month the child logs on, completes the challenge memorises multiplication and then we give them the money back and cuddly toys. We have cuddly toys, which children absolutely love. And we’re doing the same schools. We charged them all we chose was posit, because the schools did the same thing they bought it didn’t use it. It’s no good for us because then they didn’t want buy it again the following year. We do the same thing with schools, we charge them a deposit. We say right if the majority of your year for students log on then and do our challenge, then we will give the money back. So we’ve got round that that was a problem. I found a solution. We tried it it worked. And so then I implemented it in the schools.
David Ralph [19:59]
So So what We’ve learned already in this episode, and this is your whole mantra, and this is why I think you’re amazing. You have a problem, you Vane, find a solution. And then you test test test to make that solution stronger. You never just rest on your laurels, you know, to to give total transparency to the listeners when Becky worked with me, one of the things that I said right in the early days was, the trouble with your product is people don’t know they’ve got the issue until they know they’ve got the issue. So we created a kind of side business that was purely for people who started to think, you know, why can’t I add up? Why can’t I do this? And we created an online test. But at the end of it basically said, yeah, you’ve got an issue, you need our help, which then moved people over to over to your business table favours, but that could afford them flat. It didn’t we were getting quite good traffic coming through. But it is all about testing testing, isn’t it?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [21:00]
Yeah, yeah. It’s all about and in, even in even building that has made us aware that, you know, discount theory is not as recognised as dyslexia. And so you don’t really know you’ve got it until you’re a teenager. But so then, you know, we we’ve got into homeschoolers. homeschoolers are great early adopters. But, you know, building something pushes you into another area, which then pushes you into, like, I mean, it’s like a massive sort of journey of discovery. And I bet I think, I remember my husband worked at a company said, embrace failure, and I kind of really never understood that until I set up my own business is literally doesn’t matter. You make a mistake, mistakes are genius than literally genius. There’s really painful at the time, but they push you into something else. And as long as you can sort of have a little bit of mantra to yourself going, it’s okay, it’s okay, you’re going to learn something, you’re going to learn something, I think that’s what I’ve learned. You know, when when mistakes happen, you’re sort of like wanting to cry and go, Oh, my God, this is all rubbish. You go, No, it’s fine. I’m gonna learn something similar. Something is gonna be brilliant is to be brilliant, super brilliant. And it kind of always is, yeah,
David Ralph [22:12]
yeah, absolutely positive, is Rocky,
Unknown Speaker [22:15]
you, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward, how much you can take and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done.
David Ralph [22:31]
Now he talks about life, but we can talk about business as well, business will, you know, smack you around, and you can be sitting there. I’m very aware that some of the things that I did, stupidly back in the day was I created products and services that were too large, ie, they were focusing in on so many elements that the person at the other end would have me in their life for too long, you know, till I was 30. When I started when I was 16. And what you’ve done, you’ve narrowed it down, narrowed it down, narrowed it down to one specific problem, one specific solution, and then given them the tools to carry on developing themselves. So they’re kind of out of your hair. And that’s why I think your business is is perfect in so many ways. It does exactly what it says on the tin, as we say in the United Kingdom, you are helping people understand their maps, they’re adding up their multiplication problems, and then giving them the tools to do it. Be on your way.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [23:38]
Yes, no, totally. Yeah, that’s that’s what we are doing. But we are bringing you also did teach us that you can’t have you know, a business isn’t one product. You know, you have to have more than one product. But I think you did say that to us. And so we are continually going to add to that. And we’re going to hopefully take children from cradle to the grave. And we are going to make education fun. That’s what you know, I have great plans to teach history, physics, chemistry, all sorts of things. But it’s all about humour. It’s all about laughing and it’s literally Yeah, I I just genuinely think stories and laughing are the only way that we should be going and, you know, research is definitely catching up with that or has proven there and there’s more studies about it is that you will remember something if he’s in a story and he will remember something if you’re laughing along the way. But just to go back to the rocky thing is I kind of think those bruises are you know, they’re kind of like muscles like like a box so you get hit and then that muscle can he grows when it’s been here it’s because it recovers and then it heals itself and then it becomes stronger. And that’s the same business you get here. It’s really hurt. And then hopefully you grow your muscles and your your Strength afterwards. And so yeah, I totally agree with the rocky thing. It really works with business.
David Ralph [25:05]
So what you’ve done so far, let’s let’s go through it, because we’re giving you a blueprint listeners, yes, a blueprint of business excellence. And you don’t get that very often from Join Up Dots. So make the most of it, make the most of it. So, personal problem, first step, look at a personal problem, you might not have a personal problem, but you might look at other people. But it’s always best when it’s your own. Because you, you can work on yourself, you can work, find a solution, and then test test test. And then once you’re comfortable that you can really offer that solution, you might actually then have to work in the world of delegation, because there’s going to be a lot of the pieces of the puzzle, but you just haven’t got the knowledge for now I know Becky, you’ve been brilliant over and you’re more than happy to, to reach out to people and say, I need your help to do animation, I need your help to do website design. You know, you’ve used people so many times, how have you found them? And how have you whittled them down to the good ones?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [26:09]
Okay, that works. It was I heard it on your show, it was it was that works is really, really helped me I know, there are Fiverr. And there are lots of other things. And it’s difficult. Yeah, you go on there. And there’s a slew of people. But what I looked for was, English was one of the things can I communicate with them. So I do ask them about that. Although my animator I’ve never talked to ever, he lives in Poland, I only communicate via email. But we have an incredible working relationship, it’s absolutely fine. But I’ve looked for how much they’ve earned already. So that means it has a good chunk of work under their belt, and then I looked at for reviews, you know, to make sure that they’ve got reviews, and quite a few reviews. So those are the two things I look for English, how much money they don’t, and then their reviews, and then you know, then I give them a little bit of work small projects, see how we get on and see if we can get a you know, definitely some fails, there’s been, you know, definite failures, and then it’s fine, because it’s all up work to sort of secure, it means you don’t have to, you know, just doesn’t, doesn’t doesn’t work, that’s fine, you pay them the money if you owe the money, and then you move on to the next person.
David Ralph [27:22]
I’ve got some people from Upwork. Basically, if I could create an Upwork stupid table, they would be sitting on it, you know, really, really rubbish. But actually, I do a different thing. I look for the but new people that I’ve got something to prove. And I’m willing to lose a bit of cash here and there by having people that are new to freelancing. And I found some gems for some sort of real low costs, because they’re building up their profile, you know, and once you can find these diamonds, and you can put a bit of pressure on him to make them really, you know, start to shine. It’s certainly worth doing instead of trying to learn how to do everything yourself. Delegate delegate delegate.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [28:05]
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m probably still Yeah, I mean, you know what, hopefully, we’ve got more money, I will definitely be delegating a hell of a lot more. Yeah, delegating is good idea.
David Ralph [28:17]
Now, next thing, next thing on my list that I’ve got is persistence. And you literally could have gone bald seven times over you, you. You like to yank your hair at the best of the times. And so when things are going a bit of a pear shaped what makes you turn up again, the next day? What makes you sort of brush yourself down and go? Yeah, okay, that was a terrible day yesterday. And it was a terrible week. But I’m not giving up. I’m still moving forward.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [28:47]
I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know what that one thing is, I think you have to have skin in the game. I think you have to have money. You know, I put all the money up for the project. So I need to, you know, I’ve got kids, I need to earn that money back again. So I think having skin in the game really helps because you can’t just give up I can’t just go right. That’s it. I’m not learning that money back again. So that was one thing. I think I felt an obligation to other people, my brother works for me, and he has done a hell of a lot for free. So I need to make sure that he is compensated that I don’t just give up, but I just don’t mess him around. So I think having skin in the game, whether it’s like you owe somebody something or use actual money, I think money helps. And I think I’ve really learned that I think if you know Yeah, I think having that really motivates you keeps you going because you want to earn that money back again. And the other thing is, I know I’m helping children. I honestly can’t thank the parents who give me feedback. Day in and day out because that that keeps us going like I can see that transformation that is happening. So if you, if you sort of, yeah, if you have a sort of heartfelt reason to do something, you know, there’s a problem, you’ve got that problem, you solve somebody else’s problem, it brings me to tears every day, like when parents email me and go, I cannot thank you, you know, you’ve changed my child’s life, etc, etc. So that keeps me going. And then have you ever
David Ralph [30:23]
had ones where the parents have said, You’ve ruined my kid’s life? You’ve made it worse?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [30:31]
No, no, never. Never. I mean, some people say want to cancel, and then I look at the I can, you know, see from the back end, I look and you know, they logged in twice, you know, and I said, Look, you know, do you want, you know, we offer free lessons, you know, I have we offer, you know, reward money and cuddly toys, or, you know, I try and reach out and go, come on, let’s help you, they then come on to a Free Online Lesson, we then show them how it works. Because I know what it’s like having a new website, it’s really hard, isn’t it, it’s like another old gotta navigate on the website. But we try and make it really simple, because I’m quite stupid, as David will. Clarify, I’m very bad at technology. So I’ve had to make a sort of like idiot proof. So everything’s like all video instructions, or instructions or videos, you don’t have to read anything. Or, you know, we have these online lessons, you can jump on our online lesson for free, you don’t even have to have a subscription. So then we talk them through how to navigate how to win back your money, how the technique works, I’ve done everything, to solve my own problems with other websites, because I know what it’s like, I’m just like, Oh, God, I’ve got to sort out another website for my child, and I can’t do it. So that’s all we really get his parents to sort of give up before they’ve even started. But we make sure we, we, because I’ve had the problems I’ve got ever I’ve had those problems, we understand those parents. So go, come on, let’s help you out, jump on a free lesson. It’s fine. Let’s talk you through it. Once you’ve seen it, then then they’re off and running, and then they’d have it. So no, we generally haven’t ever had those. Because I
David Ralph [32:11]
know that people generally don’t either. You know, I’ve spoken to so many people. And a lot of them get trapped in that mindset that you had right at the very beginning. But it’s got to help every single person. And that’s as good as you can get. Because the majority of failures you have in life is when the person at the other side, the client doesn’t meet you halfway really. And I think that was a big wake up call for me. But no matter. You know, I can remember in the old days, people would buy a product or something. And I would message them and say, you know, when do you want to start and then they didn’t respond. And then I used to try a different way and see if I could connect with them on LinkedIn, you know. But if they’re not meeting you halfway, they’re always going to fail, aren’t they? And they’re always going to be looking around for something new. Instead of seeing what’s right in front of them. And this product that you’ve created is my favourite product ever. It really is. Other than Nando’s maybe but other than this, some because it’s just so obvious to me how it works. And it’s so obvious from looking at the growth of it. And the video testimonial was that it’s a happy place to be people like being in there. The stories are funny, kids are engaged teachers like it. It’s it’s a happy weld, you create it, which is leading us like a segue into table fables world because you’ve started off with one product. But now your dream has got bigger and bigger. And now you are looking at developing like a a shopping model of your products helping people but still using the same kind of skills.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [33:56]
Yeah, yeah, it’s gonna be called fables world. I love the Euro is actually fables dot world is literally my favourite thing. Anyway, and then, yeah, it’s a whole it’s a whole world but different planets on it, that it’s gonna have fun. I mean, I just I’m so passionate about education being funny, and about being effective. I it sort of drives me insane. You know, you’ve watched people on YouTube, you know, doing these sort of great presentations. But unless you test, test you on it afterwards, and go did you really remember that? You can watch things sort of cows come home, you know if they’re funny, but then not remember anything afterwards. So, you know, it’s you can also
David Ralph [34:37]
watch things that are really funny and you don’t remember anything, either. That’s what I mean. That’s the point. Yours is that perfect blend of humour engagement, but it actually delivers at the end. You know, sometimes I’ve listened to podcasts. And at the end of it, I think, what was the point of that? It was just it just seemed like two people having a good time. I didn’t learn anything. It was more for them. But for you, you’re very aware of creating engagement. But also, the bottom line is they will learn. Yeah,
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [35:10]
yeah, you have to test them at the end, you know, you have to, you have to make the testing fun. So it doesn’t scare them. And it’s not adding anxiety, but you have to show them, you have to make it funny. But then you have to make sure that they’ve remembered it. And if they don’t remember it, you re show them and make that process enjoyable, so that they’re not just continually failing or whatever, but the generator because they’re funny and very short. And because I was a TV producer, director, I know how, you know, you have to make everything incredibly short. Our attention span, mining, especially, is very small. So you make chunks, you know, you you reduce everything down into real time, a bite sized chunks, that is retainable, that is funny to remember. And then you test them to make sure that they’ve learnt it, you know, that’s basically our USP is make it funny, but also test them to make sure they’ve learnt it, because there’s no point showing them something funny, if you laugh at it, then two seconds later, you’ve forgotten, we want them to remember two years later, you know, 20 years later.
David Ralph [36:11]
Now with your dream, this is this is when you start, you kind of think to yourself, I’m never going to be able to do this, you know, I’ve got this idea, but I don’t know where to start. And then little by little, you create something and you created table fables, which is my favourite all time product. But you get to fable world. And that’s when it’s kind of never going to be finished. It’s always bigger than the client is going to see at any one time. There’s always going to be development going on? How would you plan that? How do you make sure that your dream doesn’t run away with yourself? And you end up with a kind of diluted version of what you wanted?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [36:51]
I’m not sure I’ve got the answer for that one. But I think, again, is testing you know, is you know, I’m constantly testing and then I’m constantly going like, what’s the next? I think you have to I think somebody said something about, you know, the sort of third do you do with sort of third, what’s what’s here? And now you’ve got another third? Sort of what you want to happen? Yeah. And then maybe another third of blood blue sky thinking kind of, or something breaking down like that? You know, you make? You know, I don’t know, I’m not sure I’ve got an answer to that one. Is anyone out there?
David Ralph [37:25]
Because it is difficult, isn’t it? When, when you have a dream, I have a dream? And it always crappy from your side? Because you’re in the working side. But on the other side, it looks great. And everyone goes, Oh, no, it’s perfect. But you kind of you always have that feeling of, oh, no, I haven’t quite done this. And I haven’t quite done that. Even though, you know, going back to my previous life, I used to do training courses. And if I missed a beat in my head, I never used to tell them, because it didn’t matter that I’d missed up on something. And you know, the audience never knew. But I literally no matter how well it went, I would have a bit of a slump and a bit of depression afterwards, where I’d think to myself, Oh, I haven’t quite done that. And that should have been slightly better. And the pacing of that was a bit off. And I find in entrepreneurship. That’s literally my stand point over time. All the time, I think to myself, back could have been better. That’s, you know, wasn’t what I quite thought of, I need to do this better. It’s always that kind of beating yourself up. And somebody on a podcast, I remember it episode 101 I don’t know why I remember that. But the guy said to me in entrepreneurship, you’re gonna beat yourself up over time. So lock the baseball bat in a cupboard and pick up a favour.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [38:44]
Well, the thing you told me that David is, try and make it funny, you know, like, you know, every email you write or everything you just, you know, because there’s so much sort of that you can beat yourself up about and I love the fact that it’s 101 like room 101 with terrible things happen. Yeah. Yes, don’t beat yourself up. Don’t go to room 101 Because it’s not fun there. And, you know, and yeah, just keep trying to make it funny. Because, you know, and I think that’s what, that’s what the new products do for me is that, you know, we’ve got farting fractions coming out, you know, and it makes me laugh still, you know, I you know, I came up with it two years ago, and it’s taking least two years to come into actually into something. Our next one will be identifying trees. For the younger really younger children. We’ve got a really funny system.
David Ralph [39:34]
Now I walked through the woods with Becky I can tell you about when she started telling me about these leaves. I thought she’d gone criminally insane. But I actually now walk around and I say to my wife, oh, you see that tree back something to do with a surfboard? Because that looks like a surfboard. But I can’t quite remember the rest of it, but I’m certainly on the right track to where you’re going. Yeah.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [39:59]
That was the beat To the beach to
David Ralph [40:02]
the beach on the surf. There you go. Yes.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [40:05]
Well done, well done, but you didn’t have any visuals to go with it anyway, you know, that that keeps me going. That is what I absolutely love. And we’ve got algebra, I’ve got superhero algebra, which I’ve done a little bit, you know. So those are the kinds of things that keep me going, I think you have to have something keeps going because you’ve got your baseball bat and run one on one that you’re constantly hitting yourself over the head with which is not very helpful. But then if you can have my enjoyment is inventing new stuff. You know, I couldn’t remember for years in the trees. I just couldn’t it was just impossible, until I made each tree a character that really fun.
David Ralph [40:40]
Would you want to? That’s that’s the question I never asked you. Why was it important to you to know what the trees were?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [40:46]
Well, because I’ve got, you’ve got some even bigger dream, because I feel a lot of our problems is to do with food. And I think we’ve forgotten what we can eat and what we can’t eat. And you know, I bought some sweet chestnut flour. You know, to make pancakes with the other day, you can actually make flour out sweet chestnuts because I walk through the woods and I stand on, you know, nuts all the time. And I’m getting these, you know, the squirrels are eating them all, you know, can we eat them? And I’ve discovered Yes, you can and I went on a foraging course where you can go and it teaches you what you can eat and what you can’t eat, you know which leaf you can eat, you know, you can put rose petals in your salad you can eat a honeysuckle is incredible for you know, drinking tea, and I think we’ve forgotten all these I think the drug companies know about it all. And we’ve you know, you don’t have to go by and boots you just go along, pick a honeysuckle flower, boil up some water and then drink it.
David Ralph [41:44]
Or just found Deliveroo and it comes to you. Yeah, it does
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [41:48]
come to you. But I don’t think we have enough variety. And I think we’re meant to, you know, eat you know, 50 million bits of grass, you know, you know, per year, and we three from Sainsbury’s or Tesco.
David Ralph [42:02]
That a million. That’s massive.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [42:05]
That’s the best surgery. So I don’t know I do smoking is good for you in any any stretch of the imagination. But I’ve asked the mass of during BayStars retreat, started retreat it makes, I’m just, I’m just utterly fascinated. I think that’s what I’ve always be fascinated by stuff. And always trying to teach myself though, because I’ve got my hands on my short term memory is so bad. So somebody could tell me that that’s a beech tree. And I’ll remember it from one second. But unless I create a story about I can’t remember it, you know, the next week, but now I totally do. And I can pass that knowledge on. And it’s got a bit better since the last week, I’ve got better characters for all the trees. And then when you see it, you have to fit I firmly believe you have to see and hear, you know, and then and then it all then it all goes in and then test.
David Ralph [42:53]
Yeah, I remember the beach. And I remember the tree that looks like Rudolph. And that’s the that’s the that’s the two that are still etched in my mind. So we’ve gone through the list, let’s we’ve gone through the list. And we’ve looked at finding a problem, finding a solution. And then Testing, testing, testing, and then delegate everything you possibly can, and then testing again, and then bringing in persistence. And then I’ve left the last two and the last two are quite big. Now. One of them is find a mentor. Now finding a mentor is really important, isn’t it? If even if it’s only to keep your spirits up to keep moving forward? How did you go about finding a mentor?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [43:37]
Ever everything, everything changed. When I started I was walking my dog looking at trees not knowing which tree was which. And I looked up podcasts and I was putting business and yours was top of the list. And I started listening to it and I was thinking what is this person on about this is ridiculous. What’s he doing? You were playing a piano and you were having gargling and I don’t know what you were doing was quite funny. And I was just it but every single episode I got something from it you know every single episode I was like like and I still do I still do like as I say I have turned my cleaning into exercise which I will turn into business at some point but you are on in my years every saturday and every single episode I get something amazing from it and yeah, you know, it’s like well that’s how I found out works or I get marketing ideas or I get you know, you tell us lifestyle ideas how to keep going how to stay healthy is incredible I literally couldn’t do my business or life without listening to you David I really honestly it’s so good. Anyway, so then after a while after thorough who’s this crazy person, but he’s really making me laugh and every single time I’m learning something which ticks all my boxes laughter learning to things you did every single week and So then I contacted you and then and then you absolutely gave me the confidence because I think I was really floundering. Four years ago, I was floundering, I know was, and I knew I had something because I’ve done so much testing. But I just didn’t, I didn’t have the confidence. You know, nobody in my family has set up a business. I didn’t have any mentors in my own life. So I was just like, going, Oh, my goodness, this is too much for me is too big for me. It’s too scary. I’m always going to fail. And I think schools have taught me that I was just a failure. So I think I’ve always been fighting against that. And you having a mentor, and I would say Davis is the best one ever is. It was everything. It literally was everything it made, you know, ask be able to carry on and keep going and go, Yeah, okay, right, I can do this.
David Ralph [45:50]
It takes away the demons, doesn’t it? You know, I have one or two people across the world, but I classes, my mentors. And I can just message them. And even you know, at moments of darkness, when you think I got where I’m heading today, I just feel like I’m on a boat that’s just drifting loosely, by kind of just know how to find an order so that you can start going in the right direction. And it doesn’t take a lot. And I always say to people out there, but to weld is here to help you. And you don’t have to think, Oh, I can’t reach out to that person. People will always help you, you know if your heart’s in the right place. And I’m a great believer in that, don’t you?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [46:31]
Yeah, I definitely do. I definitely did. I’ve honestly, I’ve contacted so many people. I think once you start talking to people about businesses and asking them, so ready to help you as I am, if somebody came to me and wants to ask me, I absolutely, you know, you want to help people because you know how hard it is. So, you know, they reach out and they ask you questions, you know, you’ll give them as much knowledge as you possibly have. And I know that people, you know, who far above them above me, or you know, much more experience will reach out, I’ve got a couple of friends who you know, as well as you, David that I do reach out who run businesses and I ring them up and they go, Yeah, well, have you thought about this? You thought about that. And it literally takes them about five minutes to tell you and you’ve never thought of that idea ever before. And you go the Why have I not thought about that. But they are further forward. And they know things and they’ve done things and they’ve made the mistakes. And so yeah, I would say reaching out,
David Ralph [47:27]
and you need to reach out upwards, don’t you that’s the thing, don’t reach out to your mate, who’s never built a business or whatever. Because I will just tell you, stupid advice is like, I try not to tell my wife anything. Because bless her, she tries to give advice, but I just think Oh, shut up. Shut up. You haven’t got a clue? And you’ve got to know who’s going to give you the gold back, you know? And that’s always somebody who’s been there before you and has worked through things that you’re still working through?
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [48:00]
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you have to reach out but it has to be and you will give it back again. I feel though to other people. So don’t don’t feel that you’re, you know, you’re asking too much. Or you’re you know, don’t be embarrassed about it. I think that’s what I’ve learned not to not to do. I’ve learned not to be embarrassed. I just go you know, if they didn’t want to talk to me, they just won’t reply, which is fine. You know. But yeah, always, always reach out. I would say talk to David, you know, definitely that’s the starting point. Always, always continuing every day. Yeah, I bug you more, Richie, I’m gonna send you an email. After this, David asking seriously, you can bug
David Ralph [48:39]
me whenever you can bug me whenever the trouble is we we end up talking about rubbish and not talking about what we what we should be talking about. We need to sort that out. Now the last one, and I’ve circled this because I think this is your super talent. And you’re gonna go Oh, no, no, I’m not like that. But you tackle big problems and big decisions. You know, yeah, to give a little bit of a backstory story. The business that we’re talking about, Rebecca started with a close friend. And when I first met, Becky, she was you know, that they would like to heads of the same animal. And little by little over a period of time, beings moved and it didn’t quite work. And something had to change and you decided to buy out your partner even though that she was your best friend. And for a while it’s caused some difficulties, you know, but you weren’t willing to walk away from that you knew that although it was a painful decision. You were willing to see it through and fat. Becky, I think it’s your biggest strength. You know that you are willing to see the big picture and know when things are difficult. It doesn’t mean that they’re wrong. It means more often than not, it’s right.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [49:57]
Oh goodness, I don’t know. I just think I think I hope again, you, you told me that I think it’s the mistakes, I think, not mistakes, it’s not mistakes, you know, but your difficult points, I had to really dig deep there, you know, and go, somehow this is, this is going to be a game, I’m going to learn something, my business partner is going to learn something, everybody’s gonna learn something from this, you know, I hope there’s a bit of a distance and that we yeah, we have learned and we’ve come through, and, you know, we’ve definitely learned, we’ve definitely, definitely learned. So I think when those horrible moments happen, you know, I think that’s what you’ve you’ve, you’ve, you’ve just gotta go, it’s gonna, you know, I’m learning something, I’m learning something, you know, be kind, love, and learn. I think that’s what you just didn’t those horrible moments, that’s all you can do.
David Ralph [50:51]
And you have to run it towards it. You know, somebody said to me, if you’re going to be attacked by a great white shark, you punch it in the nose. And I always think that with bad things happening in life, you’ve got two options, you’ve either climb onto your bed, and then it doesn’t go away, it just, you know, stays there. Or you go for it straight ahead, punch it in the nose and see what happens. And I think that is your, your, as I say, I think that’s your super talent, you’re willing to do the hard things you’re willing to, to punch the old shark in the nose. And that’s why the success that you want with fibre weld, and everything I’m telling you is definitely going to happen. It’s not even an eighth, it’s definitely gonna happen. Because you do the right things. As we’ve gone through the list, you have created a business by doing in my view, the perfect things, maybe not necessarily in the right order. You’ve done them all and you’ve learned from them.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [51:55]
I think, one when you were talking about punching sharks in the face, I remember my mom said and her grandma had said to her, it’s a slightly going off piece, but it’s like you’re not raising this as well as bringing up children. So you’re not raising a child or raising an adult. And I think that really helped me when I was raising children because when you know they’re behaving badly or the things just go they’re just a kid or whatever going in. And this is you’re gonna make mistakes the kid know the repeated racism. Yes, they tantrum and whatever, you know, I’m not saying we don’t do that, but I’m just doing what is it that you’re where you’re trying to go? And I think that’s with, you know, fables. Well, I always that’s the adult. That’s where I’m trying to get and I’m, you know, toddler at the moment, I’m still making mistakes and going all over the place. But I know, that’s where, you know, faibles world is the adult I want to be. And, you know, I’ve got to I just I’m keeping, you know that in my sights, either. There’s absolutely no sense whatsoever. But that’s
David Ralph [52:57]
got the vision, and you’re not deviating you are going in in one direction. And it worked for Harry Styles. And so it could work for you.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [53:06]
Good too. So I get to meet Harry Styles along the way,
David Ralph [53:10]
where we’ll meet Harry will we’ll meet Harry at some time in our life, I’m sure. Right. So what is the biggest part? Our bat list? What is the one that you as we were going through him? You thought to yourself? Yeah, I need to be better at bat. Want me to go for the list again? Yeah. Could you could Yeah. Okay, finding a problem. Finding a solution. Testing. Delegating, persistence.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [53:41]
Delegating, probably, yeah, you’re delegating? I’m not, I probably I think you need to delegate effectively. And I think you Yeah, I think that will be delegate more. To free up your time, I’ve still not got that one. So I need to work on that one more, we still get bogged down in the nitty gritty. And I need to free myself up from that. So because I know I know what my skills are as identifying the problems finding the solutions and doing all that. But I get too bogged down in the daily grind of stuff, which I need to free myself from.
David Ralph [54:22]
So next time I speak to you, and hopefully won’t be too long, we’re going to look at how you freed up two tasks, two tasks that you do every day. That is part of the minutiae how you can actually move those off your plate.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [54:39]
Okay, yes, yes, customer services, I need to move that off my plate.
David Ralph [54:44]
Okay, so there you go. There’s a little bit of moving forward to you. So what we’re gonna do now we’re gonna send you at the end of the show, like we always do on the Sermon on the mic, but like repeat guests, they don’t get to choose the version of when they want to speak to so you’re not gonna go back to the two year old Rebecca, you’re not going to go back to the 18th. Becky, you’re gonna go back to about four years ago when he was last on the show. And if you could go back and speak to that person and give them advice to get you to where you are today, what the advice would be? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m going to play the music as always. And then it’s your time. Yeah, this is the Sermon on the mic
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Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [55:43]
Okay, so I am talking to when I was last on the show, and when I was last on the show, I had sunk a lot of money into relatively a lot money into my business. And I was really damaging. I was sort of in a panic mode. And I was just sort of desperate for sales, and I didn’t know how to move forward. And that’s a daily Panic was awful, it was really not fun. So I would say to that, Becky ginger back, then I say, look out to the magic. I think David taught me or I’ve read in business books, that is basically all around you every single day, you’re literally being taught something, but you have to look out for it, you have to be open to it, you have to go, right, it’s gonna come, it’s gonna happen. But look out for it. And if you don’t look out for it, if you’re so close, and you’re so panicked, you can’t see the way forward. You can’t see you know, the wood for the trees as it were. So that Becky ginger, trying to breathe, breathe, take up some Tai Chi, which are now doing to try and breathe, look out for the magic is there is waiting there and actually saying this is really good for me. To repeat that to myself, keep looking out for that magic, because it will be around it will be something somebody says or mistake you’ve made, it will be something you read, it will be something that you’ve listened to on a podcast is all around you, the answers are all there. You just have to be looked out for them, and you have to be ready to receive them split like a radio receiving transmitter thing. Anyway, that would be my advice to the Becky, back then.
David Ralph [57:21]
And I think that is absolutely spot on. There’s men all around you. And if you’ve got your head down, you can’t see it. But if you’ve got a high feeling of gratitude, and maybe fun and enjoyment, you just see things in a different way you can see opportunities that other people can’t. It’s the victim or the survivor mentality. Somebody once said to me, Becky, but no matter how crappy is in the world, no matter how bad it might seem, in your life, somebody is reaping the rewards the other side, you know, and when you see that the the gas, people are making billions of bits of money, and everybody else is saying, oh my god, I can’t afford to do it. There’s always got to be an equal yin and yang, there’s always got to be magic to be had from your discomfort.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [58:10]
I think so I hope you know, it is really hard at the moment for everybody. But I hope we’re gonna learn something from it even in this discomfort when you know, we’ve had to turn down a heating. But maybe that’s good, because we’re not burning up fossil fuels as much and we’re putting on an extra jumper. I know that sounds easier said than done when you’re old or you’ve got a young baby or something. So I know, it’s not solution for everybody. I’m just saying you’ve got to look out for the positives in those sort of horrible situations, you know, maybe, you know, people are going to look at wind power, wave power, all of those other things more because of the oil prices, you know, and those fat cats will although they’ll be miserable, you know, some somewhere along the line, but I hope they invest it back into wind and wave and something else. There’s a bit more sustainable revenue, it’s looking out for those positives and I know that’s hard. Don’t you know, we all slump into that negative thought and that negative way of thinking, but if there’s any way you can just breathe and go, okay, okay, look out for the magic. Look out for the magic. It’s quite fun as well to get into game, you know, going like okay, what’s today? I think my magic today is I’ve gone okay, I’ve really got I met somebody the other day, a parents evening, who was a maths teacher who wants to do a bit of work. And you know, I said, Oh, yeah, I’m really looking for someone to help me and so I need to connect with that person. And you’ve reminded me David, I’ve got to connect with that person and reach out to her and see whether she does want to do a bit of work anyway.
David Ralph [59:42]
Yeah, you do it you do it and for all the people out there that want to reach out to you Becky because maybe their kids are struggling with maps or their nephews or they know their brothers and their sisters are struggling with their kids. How do they reach out to gain this insight into what you Do and to help them change their lives because he’s so miserable when it when you’re trying to teach kids and they just don’t get it.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [1:00:07]
Oh, my goodness, it really is miserable. You know it is and I kept up with it. And I just promise it really worked. I mean, you don’t have to believe me, because every business owner is gonna say that, I would say look at our Trustpilot reviews on Trustpilot. You can try and find them for other mass websites. They’re just not there. Look at our Trustpilot reviews. We’ve got hundreds of them. And they’re from parents, and they come in all the time. So look at that table fables on Trustpilot. If you don’t believe me, and then look at table fables. dotnet is our website at the moment, it will be fables dot world. But at the moment table, fables dotnet. And then info at table fables. Just go on to the website, and then you can contact us through there. Yeah, and hopefully there’ll be notes in the show. But yeah, table fables dotnet. We are not the book though. We are not the book. Just to repeat that there’s a book out there called tables, tables, or some
David Ralph [1:01:01]
we don’t need to know that Becky, we just need to know table fables.net And all go over there and help your kids smile help them for free up more time to be on Tik Tok for eight hours a day. That’s that’s what we want. That’s what we want our kids to do that. So Becky, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And as always, please come back again, when you’ve got even more dots to join up. Because I believe that by joining up those dots and connecting our pasts is the best way to build our futures. And you’re doing it better than anyone. Becky, thank you so much.
Dyscalculia Expert Rebecca Ginger [1:01:34]
Thank you very much for having me. And thank you for being an amazing mentor. I honestly couldn’t do it without you. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
David Ralph [1:01:41]
No problem. Rebecca ginger from table fables. Yeah, she she’s created a brilliant product that is so useful for kids of all age. And we’ve all anyone who’s got a kid and you’ve been a parent, you know, that kind of are gonna go through the reading with them. And I’ve got to help them with their maps. And this sort of takes away all the effort and it’s fun as well. So you can go over to table faibles.net And, and test it out and share it with people because you will be doing them a favour You really will. Anyway, until next time, I will see you again you look after yourself and hope to hear from more of you who are changing your life changing direction and moving forward to a bright and beautiful future because there’s that future waiting for you. Until next time. I’ll see you again. Cheers. See ya. Bye bye.
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