Elese Coit Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Elese Coit
Elese Coit is todays guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots business coaching podcast interview.
She is a lady that I have wanted to have on the show it seems from the very beginning.
She was recommended to me by one of my all time favourite guests, August Turak who appeared way back on Episode 4 who said “David, do I have a guest for you!”
She is the CEO and founder of True Change Consultants, whose tagline releasing the potential in people means she is perfect for this show.
Elese Coit has spent her professional life transforming organizations through people, nurturing talent and human potential in order to successfully deliver strategic business change.
In the last 20 years she has held top posts in Telecommunications, IT, Web and Media in FTSE 500 companies.
And quite simply she knows the limitations we set on ourselves.
She knows how to break those barriers down and help us dream big and feel inspired.
So its with great pleasure that I bring onto the show, to start joining up the dots of her life, the one and only Elese Coit.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Elese Coit such as:
How people will always state that they are so “Busy” when asked how they are, but actually how busy really are they?
We can always recover from the “Stumpness”, no matter how much we are cut to pieces….and yes, stumpness will be your favourite new word after this!
How for Elese Coit escaping a violent marriage in her twenties was the starting point of finding herself and creating the life that she was to lead and love!
How the inner feeling that we all have is the true compass to finding the life that will fulfil us!
How the trees in San Diego have become a metaphor for life, that has helped her in many ways!
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Audio Transcription Of Else Coit Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, good morning to you. Good morning to you, everyone across the world, whoever is listening to Join Up Dots and feeling inspired feeling motivated to change their life, you have come to the right place is Episode 95, which is quite exciting, of course. But it’s also the first of August who can believe that we are moving into another month. And I’ve got five more episodes until I hit the big hundred. And I’m not quite sure what I’m going to do with a big hundred. But I’ve got a few ideas and it’s gonna be a belter. And probably it won’t be as good this show because I’ve been talking to the lady of air. And this is going to be a bell to as well because she’s got so much experience in so many different areas. I really don’t know what I’m going to talk to her first about. So let me introduce to you um, she’s a lady that I wanted to have on the show, it seems from the very beginning of doing Join Up Dots. She was recommended to me by one of my all time favourite guests, August chilliwack, who actually appeared way back on episode four, if you if you haven’t gone back that far in the archives, jump back because it’s a belt is a really good episode that one. And afterwards, he said to me, David, do I have a guest for you? And I said, Who is that August, and he said, I will connect you. And that was months and months and months ago. So I’m absolutely delighted to finally get her on the show. She’s the CEO and founder of true change consultants whose tagline releasing the potential in people means she’s perfect for the show. She spent her professional life transforming organisations through people, nurturing talent, and human potential in order to successfully deliver strategic business change. In the last 20 years, she’s held top posts in telecommunications, it web and media and the footsie 500 companies. And quite simply, she knows her limitations we set on ourselves, she knows how to break those barriers down and help us dream big and feel inspired. So it’s with great pleasure that I bring onto the show to start joining up the best of our life. The one and only Elese Coit . How are you today, Elese Coit
Elese Coit [2:23]
Fantastic, David, thanks for having me.
David Ralph [2:26]
It’s lovely to have you on. And it has been so long since I first bashed out an email to you. From also August Turaks recommendation to say come on the show. So you must officially be the world’s busiest lady.
Elese Coit [2:41]
That’s funny. I don’t know about that. I do travel a lot. And I have I have a lot going on. It’s very funny because I’m writing a third book. And a very dear friend and lovely, lovely man named Robert Holden. And those of you who listen in the UK probably know Robert Holden, he’s just a wonderful, wonderful person. And he once said to me, you know, you ever notice how when you say hello to people, you say, how are you? And the response is busy. I’m busy, you know, like, that’s a good response to How are you? So I, I was thinking about that yesterday when I was finishing the first draught of the book. And I was thinking and that’s really true, you know, we kind of have got so busy that our priorities are Joy’s our loves are the things we remember really juiced us up seems so far away. And, you know, so it’s just a kind of a catchword that I’m reflecting on this whole thing of busy right now.
David Ralph [3:39]
But I’m looking at a picture of you on my show notes. And you’re you look relaxed, laying on a sofa, you look like you’re having the time of your life. And you should be having a tummy of your life because you have travelled the world. And I understand at the moment you are living in San Diego, California would not be right.
Elese Coit [3:57]
Yes, yeah, I lived in the UK and in Europe for all my adult life. And my mother was living here in California. She moved here just shortly after I left for the states to move to Europe. So 30 years, I think all in total. I was gone. And she lived here. So I used to come to San Diego. And then one day I was in the UK and I thought you know what, I think I need to move to San Diego and be close to her. And we’ve been hanging out and having fun ever since.
David Ralph [4:24]
is one of those amazing places that I wish I’ve only been there once for one day. And I was doing a road trip from LA down to where was I going to Phoenix and we stopped there for one day. And I don’t I really got the true San Diego vibe. Because so many people, especially in the entrepreneurial world that I speak to. They live in San Diego and especially that the online movers and shakers There seems to be a movement. As far as I can see. It’s either Boulder, Colorado or San Diego. Are you aware that sort of bad kind of vibe is going on there?
Elese Coit [4:59]
I don’t I think I am. No, I, a few people I’ve met that have come for conferences have said things about some marketers and people being down here. But now I’m I’m like blissfully ignorant.
David Ralph [5:16]
So we’ve August sure I can I sort of bring him into the conversation because he was he’s an inspiration to me, because he came on episode four, before I had any audience before I went live or anything. And I remember him because he’s a supremely professional guy. He was asking me questions about my reach and my audience, because and all that kind of stuff. And I said to him beforehand, I said, to be honest, I haven’t got one. I haven’t recorded a show. You’re my second ever show. And I’ve got no listeners, I’ve got nothing. And I could hear him pause for a moment. And then he went No, that’s fine. Let’s do it. And he just was hugely inspirational. And afterwards, he sort of helped me get my I’m going really and connected me with other people as he been sort of inspirational in your life. How did the August chilliwack sort of connexion apply to you?
Elese Coit [6:12]
Yeah, Augie is now a dear friend. And I’m lucky just to be able to say those words, then to have someone like him in my life.
Unknown Speaker [6:24]
Elese Coit [6:27]
am not even remembering right now. The first time I heard of him, I think it was on LinkedIn. But I’m not 100%. But I had a complete I get this with people. I just have get drawn to people. And I contacted him. I had a radio show at the time. And it was called it was called a new way to handle absolutely everything. And one of the things I had never talked about was a topic that he was writing about. And at that time, he had won the Templeton Prize for his say, brother john, and I read it and I remember I’d like shared it with everyone that I knew it was just really really impactful to me and and the whole storey interested me so I contacted him to talk about it on the radio. And then by the time we talked he’d published a book and all kinds, you know, the business Secrets of the Trappist monks, and we’ve just always connected, I think we both have a sense that there is a side to business, that if we put our attention on it on the human spirit,
would really make a difference. And it’s like the missing link in business. You know, there’s where we say we’re talking about and thinking about the human dimension and the human spirit. But really, it’s it’s I don’t know, if it’s just the I don’t I don’t exactly know why. But I don’t I don’t think that we are and overall I don’t think businesses are, I think we we know businesses are made of people and not business. We know that people have these rich, creative spirits and lives. And yet we you know, we kind of live and work in businesses if it didn’t matter that people came to work and feel kind of deadened by the experience. And I think August and I both feel that it does matter. And it mattered to us, it mattered to me when I managed the division of bt British Telecom and you being in the UK, you’ll be very familiar with the British Telecom. But you know, it’s a, it’s a fortune 500 company that over 100,000 people around the world, and I worked for them, both in London and here in the US. And what I saw there is not unlike what you’d see anywhere, which is super, super, super talented people just really amazing. Experience amazing knowledge. Amazing. Amazing. People are amazing, aren’t they? There were amazing,
David Ralph [9:11]
we all amazing. We do know about
Elese Coit [9:14]
it. I know. No, I suspected that might be true. In fact, I think now we know it’s out. Your secret’s out. So look out listeners, I’m gonna
David Ralph [9:22]
record every morning, you’re amazing. To me, you’re amazing before I even jump out of bed.
Elese Coit [9:31]
Well, you know, nobody has to tell you because we know inside, that we are more than we live every day, I think everyone has a sense of that, I really do. think everyone has a sense that, that within them, they are a greater thing than they actually kind of live experience and, and have a sense of day to day. Like, I think that’s a really interesting thing I’ve noticed about people, and the moment you connect, in, like, if you connect in a conversation, and you’re talking about the human spirit, someone’s deepest desires, their dreams, and hopes for themselves, you know, not the ones that they’re all depressed and about, because they don’t think they can ever happen. But the ones they just told, as you know, I’ve always been really good at this, or I’ve always, I’ve always just loved motorcycles, you know, or something, you know, you can feel those little threads and people and, and they they know that in relation to this rich inner life, they’re often, you know, living a lesser version of themselves. And so people love to come alive. And, and, and connect. I’m going to say connect the dots. But it’s, it’s really just, we know this, we really, really, really know this. We haven’t forgotten who we are. And then we have a conversation, we read a book or we talked to someone like August. And suddenly were reconnected with the feeling like yeah, I’m you know, I am more than I think I am on any given day, there is more going on in me. And that’s a beautiful place to be working and focused and looking in, in life. And I, you know, I get the chance to do that, and so does Augie. So we get to get together and talk about how much we care about that
David Ralph [11:28]
is a fascinating thread that’s been running through this show. Because when I created it, I kind of just cruise ideas together. And fortunately, these ideas have seemed to kind of find the bare feet and they’re running with it. But one of the things that I was struck lucky with was the tagline. And I created it. And it said connecting our pasts to build our future. And if this was something that kind of joined up the dots, it sounded correct. But as you were saying, in that kind of little speech, he did bear, so many people that I had spoken to already know their passions in life, because it was the things that I liked as a kid. And I talked about this so often because it really struck me as amazing. And the people that are really doing great stuff. And they’re unique to themselves. And they’re all fantastic. When I talked to them, and I asked him, What are you doing the same kind of things as a five year old? Was it the kind of things that you love doing as a 10 year old? Pretty much? Yes. And it’s fascinating to me that we know what our path is. We know what our passions are. But for some reason or other, we get sucked into responsibilities into careers and all those kinds of stuff that’s not aligned to what we were doing when we were little islands. And we should go back. Do you do find that a commonality across the globe in all the work that you still go in that the truly unique people are pretty much almost playing like they were as little and
Elese Coit [12:54]
I know I’m not sure. I’m thinking about what you’ve said, though I I think there’s no question in my mind that every single person is unique. And I wasn’t saying lightly that I think people are amazing. I do there is there’s no one in this world who who isn’t sitting right in the middle of there. The intelligence, the creativity, the the the soulfulness, the spiritedness, and the if you like the potential, which is what I call it in my work that they came here with, right? I think that takes a lot of expressions over our life. And so there are some people for whom the expressions of that inner sense of themselves when they were children were very lined up, they were very aligned. So they just, they love things. And those were the things that they did. And then some people continue to do them. And some people forgot about those things. But I think the core of what that is, is that the core of who we are. Here’s something I really see. We love as people to be productive, and creative and involved like we love to be we love to live are a lightness, that’s what we love as people. Now everybody came here with that a liveliness, I don’t have to walk around the globe handing out cups of aliveness, people have it right. They may not be living it, they may not be quite remembering it. They may not be necessarily feeling alive in the moment. But the fact the fact is, we we have that within us and we always have we came here like, you know, when the little backpacks got handed out, as you left, you know, as you left heaven or whatever, and you arrived on Earth. Nobody didn’t get one. Right. Nobody went, Oh, no, I forgot my, you know, I forgot my rucksack. I came here without the ability to live life, and, and the intelligence to live my life. No, that didn’t happen. So when you think of people that way, what you see is that some people forget about those core capacities. And some people remember and when we remember them, at times, it takes us back to what oh, yeah, that’s how this used to be. I used to love horses. I still do. Yeah. And for other people. It’s like, I used to love horses. And you know what, now I’ve realised that I meant that the thing that I loved about that was that it was nature. I loved being in nature. So it takes different expressions. And actually, I think we’re freer as human beings, if we don’t necessarily worry about the form, in which the expression of our likeness takes shape. And if we let the form in which it takes shape, be fluid. Sometimes it goes back to what we did. And sometimes it bursts into something completely new, but it is the same alive and us and will and desire to express and desire to live that trees have when they grow. You know, it’s like you’re growing. That’s what you’re doing. That’s what you came here for. Right? Yeah, you’re going. And you know, even if I cut you down as a tree, what’s going to happen? Right, even from the stump, the stub, the stump of the tree, what’s gonna happen, it starts growing again, something else grows, it’s like you’re in the middle of life. Life is alive, you are alive. And we just get a little stuck on and forget that that’s true. And then we look at our lives and we go, Oh, dang, I’m a stump. You know? For me, can you know that? That’s kind of that’s how I see it.
David Ralph [16:45]
But you know, it’s dumb. Paul, you’re you are, you’re a redwood, you are growing tall, taller, you can just hear but you are alive. Are you somebody that when you look at your life, do you think to yourself, yes, you’re playing to your strengths, you’re doing exactly what you should be.
Elese Coit [17:01]
I do feel that and I feel that as a deep fulfilment and a deep satisfaction with my life. So here’s the thing. You’re never a stump it like every forest burned down, burns down and grows again, like we were all made to recover from the stubbornness. Okay, we’re just going to invent a new word. Now. We were made for that, right? You’re made of life. It doesn’t matter. If you have a setback, you’re made of life, you were born with the ability to overcome what comes your way, grow again, and do the end and move on to the next. That’s how you’re made. We weren’t we weren’t made to turn into the sturdy tree that never ever, nothing ever happens to we were made to recover from the lightning. I mean, when I say we were made, what I don’t mean anything like that, I think that someone in the sky is fashioning us out of bits of clay and dropping us on a planet called Earth. I just mean, like that. The basic constitution of the human of the human being. Right? And this is just what we do. You know, everybody has this capacity to do this. So if we worried less about the moments when we feel like we’re in our stubbornness, and knew that were Hey, I can get I know, I’ll get over this. That’s how I made you know, that’s what we’re all doing. We’re all doing it every day.
David Ralph [18:29]
Have you always been like this better? Or have you? You know, I don’t want to dwell on sort of darkness. But have you had times in your life that you weren’t aligned to your part?
Elese Coit [18:38]
Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah. So I’ve had three careers in my life. And it’s not for nothing, you know, I didn’t sit down on my nice little project plan for my life. Like, here’s my project plan made of light, you know, what will I do? Oh, for the first 10 years, I’ll be a chef. And for the second 10 years, I’ll be a conference interpreter. And for the next 10 years, I’ll be a project manager and run a business British Telecom. Yeah, yeah, I didn’t do that. What happened was my life fell apart. And I found myself in a country where I didn’t speak the language and I went holy, you know, moly, I need a job. Right. And I can’t get a job unless they speak the language. So I better I mean, it was a very practical recovery strategy. From and I will tell you, I have lost everything I possess three different times in my life, like everything, and including, and I really mean that. I mean, like having a backpack, losing all my writing, losing all my clothing, losing all my paperwork, including, you know, my identity, papers, everything, everything. So I’ve had to rebuild from those moments. And I suppose that’s the reason why I know that we’re resilient as human beings, because I don’t really feel like a special person. I don’t feel like a specially equipped person. I don’t think that’s true.
David Ralph [20:04]
So So have you come back stronger, because you’ve had to rebuild or you like a sort of plan that you cut down, and then he comes back even better than before?
Elese Coit [20:13]
Well, if that were true, I don’t know that I would have gone on to the next crash. Right. Like I think it’s a little bit of a myth that we get better and better and every day in every way sorry, Augie if he listens, because because that’s what he says what you ask him how he is he says better and better every day. Just to bring back August to like, I love you Augie. I don’t actually think that’s true, I think that we we are we have an ability for self expression that can never be dampened, and never be taken away and never be broken. This is what Viktor Frankl pointed to and Man’s Search for Meaning that, you know, the inner, the inner spirit, or the inner makeup or whatever you want to call that life itself that lives in and through you doesn’t get better and better. It already is the power of life. And so you meet your challenges, and you get the experience of, you know, being completely cut down and losing everything. And, you know, I was in such a violent marriage when I was 18 and moved to the UK at 19 and moved to the UK that I had to flee the country to get away. That was how I learned French, you know, I had to flee London, because it was impossible to get away from this very violent person. So, you know, did I grow from that, that I learned? In some ways? Yes. And in some ways, I went on to repeat that, again, several times, in different forms. And what I have learned through that process of knock down stand up is Oh, guess what? Have resiliency. And I’ve come to see that all people have that? Well, I don’t
David Ralph [22:05]
know if I do because I see so many people, but maybe so deeply suppressed, but they never ever show it. And then they’re almost like The Walking Dead. and years and years and years, I worked up in the City of London. And I would commute every day to my job. And I would come home. And inside I had I had a passion, I had a power, I could feel it ever since I was 16. But I was going to do something that I would leave my mark. And honestly, at least a Fingers crossed as much as I can possibly hope for this is going to be it this is going to be something that takes me across the globe, and really helps people and changes lives. And it’s certainly already starting to do that. But I used to sit next to people and I used to look at them and think, God, I don’t want to be like that person. They’ve sat there for 40 years. And they’re just like dead inside. And it did outside as well. They just kind of came in, and they went through the motions. And I can’t imagine them having any resilience because there wasn’t anything bad enough in their life, to make them want to have that it was just like total numbness of their time and their career and their life. Does that make sense?
Elese Coit [23:14]
Yeah, but if that were true, why would you waste your time trying to inspire people? Because where are they going to reach for the capacity to feel inspired and do what they do based on hearing people like me people like you people like Augie track, right. So I have I have something to offer about this if you want to hear it. But
David Ralph [23:31]
I want to hear everything you say,
Elese Coit [23:33]
Okay, I had an insight one day about people and I’m going to disagree with your idea that people are dead inside. Are people dead on the outside? No, every frickin lately? No,
David Ralph [23:46]
no. Just like the
Elese Coit [23:48]
day before. Right? Got it? Got it. Got it? Well, we all see it right? There’s no question you walk around the world, it won’t take you very long. Go stand in a line at a coffee shop, it’s not going to take very long to find somebody who looks like they’re really, really, like stunted. And I’m gone and living in a shell and walking around in their life, like an automaton. I mean, this is really not hard to find. But here’s what my my insight was. And I don’t know, I’m not saying this is true. I’m just saying it’s what I saw. And it has to do with the tree and the stubbornness, which is why probably I use that example a lot. One day, I was speaking with a client, because I do I do a lot of not only corporate trainings, which is really what I focus on, but I do do personal coaching with people. So I was talking to a client and this client was really, really, really having a hard time a very long history of depression. And a very, just a very difficult, very difficult to see life any other way, then, you know, from this experience of years of having a hard time. And I remember this person talking and I was looking outside my window at this tree I’m looking at now, which is a eucalyptus tree. And the city comes along and they trim these trees regularly because they get very out of control. So as we as I was talking to this client, looking out the window, long came the city truck. Now, the city trimmer tree trimmers are not the most skilled tree trimmers. So when they trim the trees every time they trim the trees, I always think oh my god, where did I get these people? Right? Sorry, City of San Diego. Because they look like I don’t want to swear on your show. They look like rubbish after they’re done. And that would be a very nice word for what the trees look like when they get done hacking them to pieces, and calling it tree trimming. Okay, so this is what we’re talking about. So they’re hacking at the tree? Oh, my god, no, here we go. You know, this is we’re going to have to deal with this and look at this, and it looks terrible. And suddenly it dawned on me. This is what your client is going through that there is a only one reason why I was looking at that tree. And I was not feeling desperate about the future of the tree. And I bet you can guess what it is? Well, I’m not feeling upset, really, about the future of this tree. Because what do I know about that tree? I know it’s going to grow back. Right? I know that. So I really my although I don’t like looking at it. And it looks like hell. There’s something true about the fact that that tree is going to grow back, it’s going to leave again it is now I’m looking at it. It looks perfectly nice. Right? But it didn’t for many months. And here’s what I saw about the human condition that we look at the tree. And we assess our lives at the moment in which they look really, really bad. Yeah, like really bad. And that was what my client was doing. And I said, You know, I shared with her, I said, You know, I think what we’re doing is we’re looking at your life in this moment when it’s cut to pieces, it looks terrible. And what we’re forgetting is that, this capacity for you to grow this capacity for you to recover this capacity, here’s a human capacity, you can’t do anything about no matter how you were raised, or what has happened to you in your life, you cannot break yourself from having a new idea. At any time. You could have a new idea at any time about your life, you could have a new idea anytime about your day, you could have a new idea to anytime about anything. And no one can take that from you. And no one can change that. And you can’t change that about yourself. Because that’s how humans are. We get new ideas. We have new ideas all the time. And nothing can stop you from getting a new idea. Even David, if I tie you to that tree. gag you leave you there with no water. I can’t stop your mind. From how a new thought Can I
David Ralph [28:01]
know I had many thoughts bear and it started off all right. And Ben, I thought he’s gonna leave me with the water. So no,
Elese Coit [28:08]
yeah, is really bad, isn’t it? Yeah. So this, this is what we’re talking about when we’re talking about the truth of people. What’s inside people. So that’s why I don’t ever see anyone as being a ruin inside. But outside. Yeah, we make messes of our lives, I made a mess of mine. Many times, we undergo the worst hurricanes, we physically break, we mentally breakdown. But honestly, there is something in people and if you really, really look and believe me, I set on on a quest to look, I wanted to know, I wanted to know if we could be ruined, broken, destroyed on the inside. And I have found so far that it isn’t true. We can’t be all kinds of things get busted on the outside. But inside, there’s something in people that we can count on. And that, you know, we’re using all the time. And it often comes in the form of those new ideas
David Ralph [29:11]
that that is life affirming. And I want all the listeners out there to really focus in on that. Because is powerful. I use the C word on this show. And it’s it’s comfort. And I think when people are comfortable, a lot of the dreams that they have, they put on the back burner because they’re just getting enough money. Things are bad enough to make it a goal. But it is when it gets really bad in their life, it seems to me, I moved on when it got really bad. Everybody else I’ve spoken to we call it our big release. It’s the time when you look back and you go, Oh, god, that was a terrible time. I wish I hadn’t had to go through it. But actually looking back on it now. I’m glad I did go through that, because that really helped me move on. And I think a lot of people in that comfort zone can just move through year after year after year. Having these dreams, these passions, these these visions, simmering away until something comes along that shakes it all up. And that’s the big dot. And do you have a big dog in your life? When you look back? Dude, is there a moment when or a series of moments when you kind of go? Yeah, that was truly dreadful, but I wouldn’t be who I am now without it?
Elese Coit [30:20]
Oh, there’s no question that fleeing the UK when I was 20, you know, 20 years old a year into a new marriage and a discovery, you know, that I’d made this terrible mistake was a turning point in my life. I mean, I can count the things that came out of that I learned three languages, which later took me to become an interpreter at the European Parliament. You know, I worked at the parliament for 10 years, and after I worked at the parliament, I’m telling you, I’d seen so much and learn so much about people. You know, I’d seen really, really key political figures and work very closely with them, you know, right next to them whispering in their ears sometimes. And you come to see that, you know, people are people there there are there are those who care for others deeply. And those who who don’t whether they’re mouthing the words or not. And so I came to see something about the world of politics that then I took into the corporate world. And guess what the first thing that somebody said to me when I joined the corporate world, you know what, you’re going to hate the politics. And I thought, Oh, you got no idea how I can put up with the politics. Like that’s the least of my worries. And I thrived all through corporate life, I thrive because the politics never, I never gave it a second thought it was like, yeah, this is the way this is the way it works, you know, I just had was onto onto it fine with it. So all these different things that many people told me were just horrendous and would be difficult, weren’t because because to some extent, I thought of the experience that I that I have been through. And of course, I wanted to know more. And more I’ve learned is Guess what, it wasn’t just the experiences I went through. They taught me things and lessons in life. But what I discovered was on my quest to see what humans are made of, if there’s any theme to my life, it’s kind of that that it wasn’t the experience it the experiences shape the form, but I was using something within myself throughout those experiences to pick myself up again, and move forward. And it was that power and potential that I eventually got interested in, in my life and in teaching other people and you know, training and training in corporations, which is where I focus because I really, really, I just I don’t want to see more dead people at work.
David Ralph [32:43]
Not a good place unless you if you understand because that’s what you want.
Elese Coit [32:48]
Yeah, right. That’s right. Okay. Yeah. Right. You’d be you know, so let’s put the undertaker in business out of work will leave the real Undertaker. Let’s put the undertaker at work out of work.
David Ralph [32:58]
That’s it. We don’t need that. Yeah, never want to upset people.
Elese Coit [33:04]
It doesn’t serve anyone. I don’t know why we’re putting up with it. It doesn’t serve the companies we work for. It certainly doesn’t serve the human spirit. It doesn’t serve the people. It’s like why do we think that this is okay. Just deadening ourselves by being busy arriving at work already behind on your day before you even open your email answering the word of the question. How are you with busy like that’s how you really you’re busy. That’s that’s how you are? That’s who you are? Oh my gosh. You know, like, you know, now you’re not more of a not a human being your your calendar. Right? We can, why are we accepting this in life?
David Ralph [33:42]
I have no idea why we’re accepting it. And I’m sitting here listening to you thinking, yeah, you’re so on this? Why is my life out of whack at the moment? Because if you said to me, are you busy, I go, God, I’m busy. I’ve got so much on my plate. But I’m trying to get to a point where when I quit my job, I quit my nine to five job because there was a manager bear who was a complete coward to be honest. And I decided I just could not work with her anymore. And I’ve told the storey numerous times. But it really came down to the fact that I realised that my happiness was being dictated to by one person. And I wouldn’t put up with that anymore. But um, when I let somebody said to me, what are you going to do with your life? And I said, I’m going to look at clouds. And I said, What do you mean by that? I said, I’m going to sort out my life. So that when I want to have time to just reflect and and just be myself, I can do. And I’m not answering emails and rushing around like a lunatic. At the moment, I’m rushing around like a lunatic more than I’ve ever done. But that that’s my focus. And I think, are you saying that everybody needs spending their time they need that quietness, they need that time to disconnect from the emails that TV and everything to really find themselves again?
Elese Coit [34:55]
Well, I don’t know what each individual needs, I know that we can we do know from inside what we need. Like, for example, like you, I’m very, very busy. I’ve been up until three in the morning, three nights this week, finishing a third book. So that’s pretty busy, right? not sleeping, but but I have a feeling of inner satisfaction and fulfilment during that now, if you’re busy, like a busy, busy, like most of us are busy and I used to be busy this way too. And I’m going to count myself in that group. I didn’t have a feeling of fulfilment. So I look at that. That’s where I put my attention like, okay, am I busy busy? Or am I busy? satisfied, right? And once you put your attention on that, and you begin, let’s like they say awareness is the first step right? Once you put your awareness there, something usually occurs to you about how to take care of yourself. If you’re in busy, busy and not busy, satisfied, busy, fulfilled.
David Ralph [35:52]
I think you’re spot on there. So so what you were saying to the listeners, if you’re going, busy, bad, bad, not a good place. But if you go Yes, I’m really busy. And I’m loving every second of it. That’s what we should be aiming for.
Elese Coit [36:07]
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people are busy on holiday, and they absolutely love it. You know, like, we went here, and we did this. And then we had lunch here. And then we watch the sunset, and we will have a wine and then we walk down to the beach. It’s like we did all this stuff. You know, their diaries are full, but they love it. And I talked to people that I know, you’ve talked to people who’ve who’ve come alive in this way. And they talk about their work like, Oh, yeah, we get up, we’re building this company, we’re doing this, we’re doing that. loving it. You know, I work with an entrepreneur right now loving it setting up a brand new type of banking system that’s going to change the financial system and the for the world. I mean, like he is, I don’t think he sleeps more than a couple of hours. And he is on fire. You know, it’s just like, not everyone wants to be on fire in that way. But everyone knows what’s right for them. You know, everyone can know what’s right for them. If, if you’re not sure, there’s for sure. And you might need to just listened to that more closely. But once you start listening in, you know, like I said, you you can have a new idea about your life at any time. You know, listen, we’re listening to ourselves all the time. You and I go to lunch, I hope we will someday. Sit down at lunch. Do I ask you what I want for lunch? No, by the way, David, do you know what I want for lunch? Nope, we don’t, right? I know, I reach inside. I know I do I want the two nor do I want the chicken or am I gonna just eat vegetarian today? Like I find a way and it comes up from inside. And guess what? Everything you need to know about your life can come to you in that same way you’re doing it now. It’s not something new, you gotta learn. You know how to do it. She gotta tune into it. And maybe we get too busy to recognise the signs. But I’ve never met anyone who said, you know, afterwards, I knew I knew I shouldn’t have gone out with that person. I knew we shouldn’t have done that business deal. I had a feeling in my gut, that this was definitely not going to work the way I had expected. But I went ahead anyway. If you’ve had that ordered off the menu, you are already equipped with what you need to know, to live your life. You may not be hearing it. But you’ve got the equipment and it ain’t broken.
David Ralph [38:18]
I love listening to you. Do you know that? I I’m almost forgetting that Anita asked the next question. I’m just sitting there believing in your in your passion and your enthusiasm. I’m going to play a little clip now. And this is something that I’ve started playing on the shows. And it was it was a kind of it was a clip that I heard on the internet. And it is from Jim Carrey, the comedian, the American comedian. And he did a speech recently, and it was really inspiring to me. And I’ve just taken this section from it. I’m not sure if you’ve heard this at least. And if you haven’t just listened to this. How true is the words of Jim Carrey here.
Unknown Speaker [38:53]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [39:21]
He’s that brilliant. Oh, well.
Elese Coit [39:23]
Well, you have goosebumps, you know, that’s really he’s, he’s a very thoughtful, mindful person. He has a very interesting charity, I’m not remembering the name of it right now that is out to create, you know, address the, the food shortage in the world. He’s really a committed, interesting guy. So this as far as what he said, Yeah, there you go. You know that he’s so here’s what I would say. What He looked at his life. And he had an insight about his life, right? He had a new idea. He wants to know what if you do what you hate, and fail at that, you might as well do what you love. Now, this is exactly what I’m talking about, you know, to have an insight from from within yourself, by looking at your life and saying, you know what, this is what I see. Now, maybe we just don’t ever stop and do that. Or maybe when we do it, we don’t we discount what it’s telling us? That’s really what most people do they go, yeah, I knew, but I didn’t listen to myself, right? Well, start listening to yourself. Nobody knows. Like, you know, I don’t know for you. You don’t know for me, I’d love you to tell me, David, I’m sure. But go try and tell somebody what they should do? Do they want to know? No, we don’t even want to know. what’s right. So we don’t want to know. But we still insist on giving advice. We do know from inside, but we don’t listen paradox
Unknown Speaker [40:52]
here. So I’m going
David Ralph [40:53]
to play the Steve Jobs speech as well, because that really is the theme of the show. And I think the two really come from different goes by saying the same thing as well, you know, with Jim Carrey, saying, you know, just find something that you love and give it a go. But Steve sort of takes it in a slightly different angle. So this is a speech that he did back in 2005. And really is the sort of the message behind Join Up Dots. This is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [41:18]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards, 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future, you have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [41:53]
To believe in those words. It was a load of thought.
Elese Coit [41:56]
I was thinking as he was saying, No, it’s not a load of Tosh. But But here’s the thing, you know, and you we kind of talked about, you know, what you tell your smaller self, right?
What are you going to trust? Right? Nobody’s told you that, within you, there is a fountain of new ideas, beautiful urges, and a direct line to exactly what’s going to be right for you. And that is what you want to trust. We all got trained away from trusting the voice inside. So you know, I would say to my, if I could get a message across, you know, two little, little Elise I would say, you know, get familiar with the feeling inside of you, of what’s right for you. Because you were born with the ability to know what’s right for you. And to know your path. We’ve taken on a false idea that we don’t know our path, or we can’t know it. And Steve Jobs is right. You can’t know the future. You don’t know what it’s going to bring. But that’s unimportant because the equipment that you were given to, to make your way through life, which includes your ability to understand what’s going on around you your ability to recover from setbacks as they come along. But more than anything, your deep, deep ability to hear yourself deeply to hear information from an intelligence within you, that tells you this is right for me, is a very clear voice within all people. What happens as we get older is we get trapped and away from listening to it initially, because for very innocent reasons, very, very, very innocent reasons. Parents are trying to protect us teachers are trying to teach us people we come across are trying to help us. But they often help us by giving us their best idea about life, telling us what they did, and therefore what we should do, and telling us to listen to them instead of ourselves. That’s a miss direction. It’s a misdirection. And when we take it we get lost when we take other people’s paths. That’s what happened to Jim Carrey, his father, he took someone else’s path, someone who someone said this is the safe path. Well guess what he learned it wasn’t the safe path. Now, Steve Jobs is no different from you and me, he followed a voice inside. Now if you think you came here without that voice inside, you are sorely mistaken. You didn’t not you came with the same voice inside telling you what’s good for you. And what you want to do in life is only one thing, make it your best friend. Just make it your best friend. Listen to it, follow it, get familiar with it, put your arms around each other, and make your way through life. Because that is not going to lead you the wrong way. It is going to take you down many paths that may not turn out. But when you get there, guess what, it’s got a new idea waiting for you about where to go next. There is no such thing as a perfect human life. It doesn’t, we aren’t meant to have that it we are life is rich and gorgeous. And I have been through many awful things and survived them all I’m talking to you, there’s the proof. But I never knew this, I never knew I could listen to myself in this way in this deep, deep way. And I think life will be very different for the of us as we go forward who do so for me, for you for everyone. That is what I would say, you know, become yourself in this way, by befriending the voice in you that knows what’s right for you and feels it.
David Ralph [46:18]
Everything that I’ve done in my life over the last six months or seven months even, but has terrified me, I now look at it and go back was exactly the thing that I should have done. And for many years, I would have played within my comfort zone. But now because I’m building a future and to be honest, I’ve taken you know, such a jump off the cliff and salary and all that kind of stuff. I’ve got to make this work. It’s got to work, but back kind of fear of failure. And that fear of moving into new opportunities has kind of blended into almost like a compass to me. And when I see those those moments, I think, oh, oh, this is this is too much me or this guest is going to be too big for me, or all those kind of self limiting thoughts and I pushed through. I’m just moving into clearer and clearer paths. And you’re absolutely Why is my body telling me when something is right for me. And generally it will seem scary.
Elese Coit [47:22]
You see, the compass is a great metaphor for it. Because campuses move back and forth, don’t they? They don’t just go north northeast, they go will wobble wobble wobble, you know, planes, when they’re in the air making they’re making way their way to a destination are flying off course something like 95% of the time, right? We just get worried about that. It’s not a problem. You know, it’s not a problem that we are off course. Because if you have the compass and you are you guys are best friends, you know how to read it, you want you don’t worry about it, right? You wait till the arrows settles down and goes this way. Right? Well, we don’t recognise this, what’s the feeling? What’s the inner feeling? And if it’s in your body, great for me, it’s not always in my body as such, but there is a feeling of rightness that I have, you know, and I would suggest you know, if you if you ever have moments when you think, you know, I knew. And I knew, we’ll get back to that moment and start to recognise what that feels like for you. What was that moment when you knew? And how could you use that in your life more, because it is giving you information. It’s like we’ve got the compass is working all the time. We just are getting freaked out by the fact that it’s wobbling.
David Ralph [48:38]
I was speaking to a gentleman on episode 82. And I’ve mentioned him numerous times, because he was one of these guys, I thought this is unbelievable. And he has this concept in his life. And when he was younger, he was a complete scaredy cat, and he just wouldn’t do anything at all. And he couldn’t even get a job in blockbusters, you know, he would sweat in the interview. And I was saying to him, Well, if you can’t even get through the interview here, how are you going to deal with a job. So he came to a realisation, but he was never going to have a job, he just had to support himself. And he has now got this, this kind of tagline to his life, where he says, the bigger I dream, the easier it is to achieve. because so few people have got those same dreams and are willing to push through and he gave me examples that just blew my mind. You know, he’s going up to space with Richard Branson, and, and all these kind of amazing things in his life. And he said, it’s just I have this idea, I jot it down to about five or six points, and I start working on it. And people give up. And I and I just keep on moving past them. And then suddenly it’s better. And I do it. And it’s great. Unbelievable.
Elese Coit [49:45]
Huh? Yeah, that’s actually more common than you would realise if we just give up really early that those things would be much more common. If we just, you know, like, you know, he had an insight like I was talking about, he had a nice, you had an insight about his life, he knew to follow it, he knew he does follow it, what he does is he doesn’t let the noise get in the way. He just doesn’t let the noise get in the way. And honestly, if you can really connected with the sense of yourself, you get less and less willing to let the noise get in the way because it doesn’t feel good. When you’re not on your direction. Right. And I, I I don’t think there’s any substance like there’s no kind of substitute, it would be a really poor substitute to have a perfect life. Right, that that would just be a really poor substitute for this beautiful, flexible, soulful, deep, intelligent way of living life and experiencing everything life has to offer, including some of the, you know, the, the the off track moments, you know, the off pieced moments right there. They’re really not problematic when you know what the centre feels like, yeah, you just stop worrying about them, they just stopped becoming a big deal, you stop stopping your life, because you’re not bothered. So you really got to get a perspective of a bigger, like a bigger sense of things with you, it listening to yourself at the centre, and really getting familiar with this feeling at the centre. Because I think having a nicely planned out perfect life that never went wrong wouldn’t be nearly as much fun. Actually, you know, but that’s just my opinion, man.
David Ralph [51:31]
But that’s exactly what Steve Jobs are saying, isn’t it?
Elese Coit [51:35]
See, I you know, he took it from me.
David Ralph [51:38]
He did, he took it exactly from you, he was waiting for that moment. But it was it was just looking in yourself having that faith, having that trust. And when you hit a closed door, try another door, and then another door and you’ll find one that opens up. And it may not be the path that you originally fault. But it’s more likely than not to be a good place that you end up because you’re trying different things. And you know, I am absolutely blown away by the success success of this show. It’s just me on a mic connecting with people that is connecting and Join Up Dots. If you look on the sort of the, the the symbol of it, it’s got these dots going around the world. And but very first thought of it was, wouldn’t it be great to actually connect the world and build a network, and then I sort of banished it. But now I can’t do that. I don’t know how to do that. That’s just stupid. That’s too big for me. And it was it was too frightening. But as the show starting taking place, and I am doing that I’m starting to be Oh my god, this is amazing. What can Where can I take this, and I’m buying into what Eric James was saying. But the bigger the dream, the easier it is. And I’m trusting myself and having faith in the abilities and stuff. But I don’t think I could have got into bed unless I started on that path and started moving, you’ve got to have that courage Ave that that commitment to actually take the first few steps.
Elese Coit [53:00]
And that’s, that’s what people are trying to add to themselves. They’re trying to add courage to themselves, and they’re trying to add commitment to themselves, you don’t have to do that. When you reach inside for your own guidance from within, and you make it your focal point to get familiar with that. Because it’s always guiding you live in the moment. So you don’t need these add ons, they become the byproducts of your like confidence is a byproduct of knowing who you are, it’s not a great add on to your life. It’s pointless as an add on, you know, you’ll you’ll get it and you go Oh, I dropped it, damn it, you know, forget it. Right? But But when you’re when you’re really knowing, like, really let it sink in that it is true it is it’s not just more than likely that you’re going to end up it is frickin guaranteed, it is more than true that within all people, we have a sense of what is right for us there is a deep intelligence within people and you have touched it, I guarantee or you would not know what your compass was saying to you, you have the ability to interpret that for yourself in your own way. And I just think that we get freaked out. Because we start looking at what’s actually happening in the moment, then we forget to look back at, okay, if you navigated by your sense of your inner direction, it would always take you toward that way, you’d all send up at your destination B and we just think a destination looks like something okay, it’s got to be this right? So you, you looked at it connecting the dots all the way around the world got a little freaked out. That’s what we do. But if you just go forward with it, it’s like this is right. I know this is right, this is happening. I’m following it. Yeah, I’m checking in I know, it ends up happening. Because you know, and it may not happen in that form, it may actually happen in a much bigger form than you could in and I guess what you can handle it?
David Ralph [55:02]
I think I can, I think I can. And I think what you were saying competence is a byproduct of being who you are. And I think if I was going to have a tagline to this show, I think that would be it. You know, but that that is what I want the listeners out there. The guys on the bus is on the trains going into Jobs about their but not keen on, or they’re in relationships, but they’re not happy with have competence in yourself, because you have got the ability to create a better life for yourself. And it’s not going to kill you leaving that boyfriend is not very nice to you. And it’s not going to kill you leaving that job. There’s other jobs, and they may not all be perfect straight away is at least is saying, but you are taking control of your own life and your own actions. And by doing that constantly, you will build up that competence in yourself on you.
Elese Coit [55:54]
I don’t quite agree with what you said I love you. But I don’t agree with what you’ve said. Isn’t that interesting? Staying?
David Ralph [56:00]
It’s my show. Elise
Elese Coit [56:02]
is my show. No, I love I love what you’ve said. And it is very common. And here. Here is what I would say, you know? Honestly, do we think there is a deep intelligence and people that we can follow? You think there’s a deep intelligence in you that you can tap into? Do you know what order on the menu? Do you feel? What you know, do you know that that’s in you, if you do, if you have some sense of that. And you begin to tune in deeply to an intelligence that you that is bringing forth like a fountain, new ideas all the time, when you’re not messing with yourself, when you’re not telling yourself I need confidence when you’re not trying to convince yourself that you need to like a person you don’t whatever it is that you’re doing in your head, when you’re not in your head. It’s there. And if we think that’s true, the one thing you could do for yourself, that would take care of all the rest would be to tune into it. It would take care of it, it would take care of confidence, you wouldn’t need to practice you wouldn’t need to get, you wouldn’t need to be a better person. You just would you could drop all the self improvement stuff. I’m sorry. It’s just like, if it’s true, now, if it’s not true, then that’s a whole nother deal. You’re going to need confidence and tools and stuff to take you through life, you’re going to need practice, you’re going to need, you know, your meditation to calm you down. But if not, if it is true, and people are made of something more, and and I think that we are because I keep investigating, I keep looking and I it’s um, it’s amazing. This is where we started, we’re amazing.
You know, reach in and see,
David Ralph [58:05]
Elese Coit [58:07]
Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Because though and that was the most common thing I got asked the most common question I got after this asked after seeing something like this is Yeah, you know, but how am I going to recognise it? You know, how am I going to know, because I get confused all the time. Like, I think I have this option. And that option, I don’t know how to decide. And so there is a come a getting to know because believe me, if you’re 20 3040, or even 15, you’ve spent at least 15 years of your life being trained away from this. You’ve been trained to listen to other people to look at the world and get scared to not to not know what to do to ask the experts to rely on other people. And I, I think it’s a radical thing that I’m saying that we have an inner, an inner wisdom within us, that that carries us through life. And I think you look at every month, if I really look at every moment in which I crashed and burned. What helped me out. And there were certainly a few people who took me by the arm and honestly, honest to God, I I still I love them. And I have been blessed by them. Because that when I was in the worst of my worst, I had people who took care of me. And then inside of me something would kick in and said, you know, you need to do this. Next, you need to do that. Next, you need to get a job, you need to leave the country, you need to take care of yourself, right? I was getting really good information from inside on. When I started listening to it, my life started to work again. And then I would move off and think oh, you know, it’ll be okay, I’ll do this thing I don’t really want to do. I know. It’s all right. And so I didn’t train myself to listen to it. I was hearing it. And I could probably go back over my life and find every single time when it was like, Yeah, I knew I but boy did I know. And I didn’t do it. Well, what if we just started getting to that and not having those moments after when we have to go? Yeah, you know, I know.
Unknown Speaker [1:00:13]
It’s powerful. And
Elese Coit [1:00:14]
yeah. And it goes for like I navigate now by this so much so that I say you know what, I ain’t got a reason why I’m not doing that. Except I don’t I’m not. It’s not. It doesn’t feel like my my thing. It doesn’t feel like the way I’ve got used to feeling inside the way I’ve got used to checking in with what’s going on in there. And I want I don’t have logical reasons for not doing things but I won’t do them because I can feel inside that they don’t. They don’t work for me. And boy, that’s been the hardest part of it is actually saying why am i i don’t know why i don’t have a reason. We’ve got used to using this intellect and this logical mind to figure out our lives, it’s not really that good at it. It’s really good at something things. It’s like frickin fantastic for some things. If I put my logical mind to a project plan, it is all over that like, like, you know, it’s Adam, I’ve got it, you know, I got everybody clear the floor, I’m you know, I got it. So, but it’s terrible at running my inner life. Terrible. And so I just needed to learn that I had an inner, an inner sense of what was good for me and learn to listen to it. And honestly, I think that’s the companion for life that we all need.
David Ralph [1:01:32]
I love that I really do. And you know, I’m aware that this is going to become one of our longest shows, but I could let this go on for two or three hours. But what I want to do I know you’ve touched on littler least beforehand, but this is the end of the show now. And this is the Sermon on the mic. And this is when I send you back fully in time to have a one on one with your younger self. So I’m going to play the music. And when it fades out, I’m going to remain totally quiet. And this is when you’re out but this is the sermon on Mike.
Unknown Speaker [1:02:06]
Here we go with the best beer of the show.
Elese Coit [1:02:25]
So this is Elise quite talking to her younger Elise
aware of just send an incredible
amount of love and well wishes for this part of me. And I want to reverse the learning of the world right now. I want to like make the planet spin the other way. Because what’s about to happen in the younger Elise is life is going to train her away from the one thing that she needs to live her life. So my dear. From this point forward, everyone is going to try and get you to listen to them. Everyone is going to have an answer for your life, everyone is going to have a beautiful experience that happened to them, that taught them something wonderful and lovely and true. Or they’re going to have a terrible experience that’s that taught them something horrific, and painful and difficult and to be avoided. And out of love for you, they will want to give you those things that you should avoid those things that you should do out of what they saw for themselves. And what I want you to see more than anything else in the world is that there are no answers for you there. The way the people who will tell you how to live their lives, your how to live your life, learned to live their lives, was by hearing something within themselves, that gave them the strength to go forward that got them through the difficult time that got them to the place where they want it to be. And they cannot give that to you. That’s impossible. They can’t give you their strength, they can’t give you their wisdom, they can give you their words, and it sounds like they’ll work but they don’t. They do not. So do not listen, and do not follow. And do not try to be anything else.
Other than the
deepest wisdom that comes from within you. And where that will take you I don’t know. And what your life will be like will probably be a constant touching base with something that no one around you is probably listening to for themselves. So you’re probably on a path that won’t have a lot of company, although you’ll meet some people who do know what I’m talking about. So you have this within you, you have a compass that guides you through your life, and it has a feeling to it. And it feels deep, and it feels true. And it feels right. And when you feel it, you’ll know. And the journey of your life is to come into friendship and companionship with that part of yourself. so that it can take you through every everything that is to come. And with that with you, you cannot fail to get where you’re going at any particular time because it is always alive and living in you in the moment and responding to the situations that come so you don’t have to worry about what’s coming. Because it’s going to take you through it has an on bounded amount of new ideas for you. It has an incredible depth of feeling, which you will participate in. And there is an amazing amount of knowing about the direction of your life that lives in you. And you’ll recognise it when it is there. And the only job you have in life is to follow it. That’s it, to recognise it, to know it, to live it, to follow it to be with it to be true to it. And no one can give this to you. But here’s the best thing. No one can take it from you. No matter what happens to you no matter what occurs, no matter who comes along. No one can break this in you. And so I wish you well on a beautiful journey.
David Ralph [1:07:24]
Amazing. Amazing stuff. Where did you think the young least would have listened to that?
Unknown Speaker [1:07:32]
Elese Coit [1:07:37]
I think so. Because every time someone talks to me from a deeper feeling about what’s true about life, I listen, I can feel it within myself. There’s like a resonance. And, of course, we think our way out of that and we lose touch with it. And we get busy in our heads and forget about it, but we can’t fail to recognise what’s true. So somewhere inside that would hit. Yeah,
David Ralph [1:08:09]
well, I’m sure it’s gonna hit with a load of our listeners, thousands of our listeners. And all the people that have become inspired by you today, and they can’t fail to be inspired. That was the best way that they can connect with you.
Elese Coit [1:08:24]
Um, the best way to connect with me because I’m really bad about being on Facebook and things like that is I I have we have a website, our company is true change consultants. And you can reach me at a Lisa true change consultants anytime. So either through the website, or directly, my name is spelled e Ll E. se. But if you’re more interested in my personal writing, my website is Elise at least quite calm. And you can reach me through there too. And that’s my sort of personal blog. Other than this social media that I’m on the most is LinkedIn. And so that’s
David Ralph [1:09:05]
where we’re over links on the show notes so that people can connect with you. And honest, yeah, thank you. Thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots of your life. It’s been absolutely amazing to have you on and please come back again when you have more dots to join up. Because I believe that by joining up those dots and connecting our past is really the best way to build our futures. Elese Coit Thank you so much.
Elese Coit [1:09:27]
Thank you David Ralph and for your beautiful work in the world. Thank you.
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