Eddy Mann Joined Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Free Podcast Interview
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Introducing Eddy Mann Musician
He is a musician, songwriter, worship leader, teacher, speaker, coach, husband, and father.
It’s certainly true to say that he has a lot of plates spinning at one time.
But at his core you can tell that he is a family man, and although everything in his life holds a significance to him, it’s family that ties it all together.
Right from the early days his musical output has been nurtured and encouraged by the family atmosphere that he found himself in
As he says “”My father is a pianist and back in the day he had a small jazz quintet that would rehearse in our basement. So I had a pretty good catalogue of bebop standards as part of my fabric even as a young boy.
My mother didn’t play an instrument but was a creative force in the house.
She was always designing clothing, developing a new dish to eat, or drawing.
Both my parents had a way of allowing me the freedom to express myself and making me aware of God as creator.
How The Dots Joined Up For Eddy
Like so many from my generation the British band invasion of the mid/late ’60s fuelled my desire to pick up the guitar as an instrument.
Initially I’ll admit that getting the attention of the opposite sex didn’t hurt my drive to get better, but as I matured I discovered my passion was in the creative process.
I loved writing songs from an early age in high school. So by the time I was in college I was addicted to it.”
And if you can find something that you are addicted to, so you can push through when the times get hard then success is on your radar.
And that seems to be the case with today’s guest as with the release of his last album Dig Love, and the soon to be coming The Consequence he is a man who knows what he wants in life.
And we will discuss this on the show, but it feels like he has found it in his own heart, the creative process, and every-time he closes the door behind and comes home.
So where does he get the inspiration for the songs that seem to be come easily to him?
And does he look back as his life and ever think “Man, if I only had made a different decision at that point then life would be so much different?”
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr. Eddy Mann
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Eddy Mann such as:
Why he believes in not forcing anything in his life. He simply prepares hard to put himself into the position where any opportunities can be eagerly accepted.
Why Eddy knows that he isn’t going to be the wealthiest guy on the block, so works hard to make sure his expenses are low to allow his passions to run free.
Why he his aware that it is easy to become disconnected with their audience, which is why Eddy loves the smaller gigs where he can really interact with everyone listening.
Why he loves living in a life of change. There is nothing we do about it, so just savour the moment and then roll with it. That is where he real experiences come from.
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Full Transcription Of Eddy Mann Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:34]
Yes, hello there, everybody. Hello there and welcome to Episode 573 of Join Up Dots. There are times when I love doing a show. I love doing it every single day but there’s times when you speak to somebody and you know that they are going to be a great guest because they’re slightly mad. I won’t tell you what he’s doing at the moment but he is breaking every law known to man and I could bring him down I think Bring him down on his knees and so that he ends up in some weird jail tonight. But anyway, I’m not gonna do that. He’s a musician, songwriter, worship leader, teacher, speaker, coach, husband, and father. And it’s certainly true to say that he has a lot of plates spinning at one time. But at his core, you can tell that he’s a family man. And although everything in his life holds a significance to him, it’s family that ties it all together. Right from the early days, his musical output has been nurtured and encouraged by the family atmosphere. But he found himself in as he says, My father is a pianist. And back in the day, he had a small jazz quintet that would rehearse in our basement. So I had a pretty good catalogue of Bebop standards is part of my fabric, even as a young boy. Now my mother didn’t play an instrument but was a creative force in the house and she was always designing clothing, developing a new dish to eat or drawing. Both my parents had a way of allowing me the freedom to express myself and making me aware of God as creator. Now like so many from the generation the British band invasion of the mid late 60s, viewers My desire to pick up the guitar, she loves you. Yeah, yeah, you can see where he’s coming from as an instrument. Now initially, I admit that getting the attention of the opposite sex didn’t hurt my drive to get better. There we go, it always comes down to that. But as I matured, I discovered my passion was in the creative process. I loved writing songs from an early age in high school. So by the time I was in college, I was addicted to it. Now, if you can find something that you’re addicted to, so you can push through when the times get hard, then success is on your radar. And that seems to be the case with today’s guest, as with the release of his last album, Big Love and as soon to be coming, the consequence is a man who knows what he wants in life. And we discussed this on the show, but it feels like it’s bounded in his own heart, the creative process, and every time he closes the door behind, he comes home. So where does he get the inspiration for the songs that seem to come so easily to him and does he look back on his life and everything? Man, If only I’d made a different decision at that point, then life would be so much different. Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr. Eddy Mann. Good afternoon to you, Eddy. How are you, sir?
Eddy Mann [3:11]
Hey, bro. Wonderful. Good to be here with you.
David Ralph [3:13]
It is good to have you here because you are um, I can’t stop this. I can’t stop this. I’m gonna have to say you are breaking every law known to man you are driving, recording a podcast, you’re texting you not only are you breaking every legal law, surely, you’re also proving that men are better multitaskers than women would you say?
Eddy Mann [3:36]
As long as I don’t crash into any thing and the spell checker almost holds true.
David Ralph [3:42]
You are You are a dangerous man. Indeed. So what tell us tell over listeners Why are you actually driving along the three ways of America whilst you’re recording this podcast.
Eddy Mann [3:53]
I’m actually driving toward a performance tonight. I’m in the past. Sylvania area. So I’m about 100 hundred some miles from the coast, from the Atlantic Ocean coast and I’m actually driving down to perform at a beach, kind of a beach resort down there that has this five mile long boardwalk. And along the boardwalk is this pavilion type place where I’m going to be performing tonight. And then do
David Ralph [4:20]
you just go to new places all the time or if you’ve got a kind of routine you go one day here next day, Madison Square Garden, ven here, Madison Square Garden again, how do you pay?
Eddy Mann [4:32]
I think that there are places that I play monthly. There’s some I see once, you know, once a year, and there are places I always love going to new places, meeting new people, you’ve been inspired by different different backgrounds and all so that to this tonight is a place that I’ve known about all my life. This is the first time that I’m actually performing there. So I’m kind of excited about Andy’s excitement.
David Ralph [4:58]
Just Did you ever get nervous now? Or do you just when you have that excitement in your stomach? Do you know that you’re on the right drive track to yourself?
Eddy Mann [5:08]
I don’t think it’s Yeah, I’m not nervous doing anything because I know that I’m doing what I’m supposed to do. I’ve never forced things in my life I’ve always tried to take advantage of opportunities came along, and that I worked really hard at preparing myself so I’ll be ready when when there’s a loud truck. So that I’d be ready when when opportunity presented itself.
David Ralph [5:32]
And when you look back over your life, which we’re going to do on Join Up Dots. Could you see that you were gonna be here? Obviously not driving along breaking every law on this podcast, but could you see that your life was gonna end up where you you’ve got to, or has it been a surprise to you?
Eddy Mann [5:49]
Now, like, I think like most people 20 years ago, if I told people what I was going to be doing, they would have looked with a rather strange face and not Believe it. You know, that hindsight thing is wonderful. And I know that I know that’s the premise of what we’re talking about today, when I look back on my life, each step along the way, has prepared me for the next thing I was going to do. So there’s, there’s no reason for me not to trust in the process as I continue to move forward. And just following that light following in the, the, the idea that I’m going to prepare myself and when, when the opportunity comes, I’m going to jump at it.
David Ralph [6:33]
So let’s take you back in time because it seemed to me at your core, as a young man, he was a dirty old person and all you wanted to do was attract the opposite sex. That was the whole reason for your career,
Eddy Mann [6:47]
whatever you have to understand, I was a really, really painfully shy kid. And I had no voice at all. I mean, I was there I got I got through life because I was an athlete and I would hang out with friends and stuff, but I really was just painfully shy until I until I put a guitar on. And the moment I put a guitar and I had all the confidence in the world, I found my voice. I said I could get a date any night of the week. I couldn’t play with the dine yet. But it just allowed me the freedom to express myself. And it really did change. It changed the way the whole world looked to me.
David Ralph [7:27]
When I did having a date every single night I bet he was exhausted. You could see the world through closed
Eddy Mann [7:33]
my grades in school. I know that no, I can bet I compare.
David Ralph [7:37]
So what was it was it the Beatles and The early British bands that really stoked it up or could you go earlier than that into this? The Chuck Berry’s and Yeah,
Eddy Mann [7:47]
probably the mid late 60s kind of guy that that’s really what kind of hooked me and pulled me in. Initially like I initially, there was the it was the the instruments to guitar playing and all that There did come a time when I matured a little bit when I got out of high school that I had been playing professionally in bands and I kind of realised at that point that it was the it was the songwriting process that really lit me up that got me out of bed every day. And fortunately at that point I had been, I had really honed my craft on guitar so I was a proficient guitarist and bandleader and it made a little bit easier to move forward as a songwriter but again, that’s part of the connecting those dots You know, it was just, it was a perfectly Wait for me.
David Ralph [8:32]
And the the creative process. Sometimes it’s like pulling teeth and other times it’s just effortless. You know, the classic story about Paul McCartney, literally drempt yesterday and then spent six weeks going around to people asking, What is this song you must know this song? Do you struggle with the creative process or is it effortless? Or does it just occur as it occurs? I write
Eddy Mann [8:55]
almost every day. And it really is It really is a very natural process for me. In that I yeah, I don’t struggle for inspiration. I mean, it could be in the conversation that we’re having could be in a book I’m reading my wife and I frequent the art museum and I can, I can get lost in a painting just, you know, my mind runs while just creating stories within the brushstrokes. So, because I write all the time, I’ve always got a collection of songs to draw from when it’s time to do the next album. And usually whatever, whatever that season is, whatever I’m living through, is kind of thematically runs through those songs without really attempting to make it that way.
David Ralph [9:48]
You sound like you’ve stopped driving now. Have you been pulled over by the police or do you you don’t have
Eddy Mann [9:54]
to get out of here. So fuel
David Ralph [9:57]
you’ve slowed to a point where we can hear you really well. So when you’re doing your thing, because our listeners are people who haven’t quite started doing their thing, and they’re looking for inspiration, they’re looking for a way of living a life that is truly authentically theirs. When you look at yours, is it a difficult life? Or is it is it plain sailing and fun? Would somebody who hasn’t yet picked up a guitar? Would this be the life that you would say go for?
Eddy Mann [10:27]
I don’t think I think if you know who you are, if you know you have a passion for something, you don’t really have a choice. I don’t think you’re going to be happy. But I think just because I have a passion to write, and I have a passion for music. When I met my wife, I didn’t want to be on the road. I wanted to be the dad at home. So for season in my life, I was a teacher I went back to school so I could teach. And I found I had a passion for that. And it kind of led me into the into the worship leader position. So I think A lot of times, you can’t, you’re not going to be happy if you’re doing something you weren’t meant to do. I think that’s really important. But at the same time, because I’m a musician, and I’m going to, if I’m going to decide to live a musician’s life, then I have to realise that chances are I’m not going to be the wealthiest guy on the block. Which means I have to go about my lifestyle completely different if I want to live a happy content and and comfortable life My wife and I are We’re so blessed. I mean, we live in a we live in a wonderful area and in a beautiful home. we own our vehicles, we don’t owe anybody anything. And we live we live modestly by the by the worlds with the we’re how the world says we should live but we have everything we possibly could want. So, but I think again, I want to be I want to work in the arts I want to be I want to be honest about my passion, but I also want to be smart and realise that I have to be a you know a good servant with all the stuff that I’ve got that I have.
David Ralph [12:04]
I think it’s interesting what you’re talking about because I know so many people are in a job that they don’t like and they think I need to earn exactly the same amount of money otherwise I’m going backwards but what you’re saying is you can transition quite easily if you look at reducing your overheads reducing your costs your price whatever and then build it up again with what is it worth taking the risk I suppose it is.
Eddy Mann [12:31]
I think sometimes depending on what the risk is, I saw I was talking about earlier I I wrote this a song on on big love called seize the moment. Sorry about that. That seatbelt problem here. Okay, I wrote a song on on big love called seize the moment. And it was inspired by a king that had this fleet of ships built in this Hips were supposed to bring him great wealth and fortune. He loved these ships so much that he never sent them out to sea. You don’t want anything to happen to them in a storm Gale, Gale blew up and actually sunk the whole fleet in ports. And I always thought that it was, it was a great metaphor for each one of us that we’re all ships that are meant to sail. And when opportunities come arise, we have to go after them. Sometimes it may feel like a risk, but if it’s the right thing, if it’s what we’re meant to do, then it’s gonna work out it’s gonna be a good thing.
David Ralph [13:30]
And you only know that it’s the right thing once you really dig into it. I found that with the show at the beginning, it was I fancy doing that. But then after about 100 or 200 episodes, I thought I can’t stop this. This is this is it. This is just gonna take me to where it’s going to take me. At one stage. I thought it was going to take me into the grave, and it was it was very difficult, but now it’s just a wall that comes across me when I’m doing that. Did you feel the same way when you’re playing Music and the light comes down and you start singing Do you lose yourself?
Eddy Mann [14:06]
Absolutely. People often ask, What’s your favourite gig? It’s always the next one, or the one that I’m currently in. I can’t wait to perform tonight. I can’t wait to try to engage with this audience and try to get a message across to them and be in conversation with them. That’s really exciting for me. And it’s, it’s inspiring at the same time. So yeah, I don’t have I think you just said more often than not, you know, when you’re in the right place. And I mean, it feels good. I mean, you know, again, I said earlier, I don’t I don’t fight the process. If I’m in the studio. And this I think the song is going it’s in one direction and it starts going in another I’m not going to fight to make it come back to where I want it to be. I kind of wants to sell them to go where it needs to go. And I’m just going to ride that out and hopefully it Enjoy it not getting away. And hopefully I’m doing that with my life, I’ll let my life play out the way that it’s supposed to be played out. And, again, I’m not getting in the way of doing things I shouldn’t be doing. It doesn’t mean I’m not going to make a mistake here or there. But the sooner I realise it, you know, the easier it is for me to get back on the right track again, right past. I find
David Ralph [15:22]
it intriguing that you always feel the excitement when you’re on stage because some of the biggest, most well loved artists will actually put their hands up and say, they’ve been on stage and it just hasn’t worked for them. They just haven’t felt it. They felt like they’ve gone through the motions and I’m talking about people from Bruce Springsteen to Billy Joe to elton john. Literally all of them, they have flatness that occurs, some songs that I’ve sung hundreds of times. I think, I can’t sing this anymore, but you don’t feel bad. You always feel like
Eddy Mann [15:55]
Well, there’s two sides to that. One of it is that I don’t some people get by into having to play their songs note for note right from the catalogue, and I don’t do that, you know, when I go out and play my songs could sound completely different from one night to the next. Because I allow the freedom to do that. And when I have my full bandwidth me they I allow them the freedom also. So I want to keep it fresh. I want the sound that continue to grow. For me, my songs are a lot like my children, you know, they’ve never, they’ve never stopped growing, you continue to mature all the time, and morph into different things. And that’s kind of how my songs are. So that helps some, some getting some things getting stale. And I think the other part is that a lot of the a lot of the artists that you mentioned here are playing on a much grander scale. And the larger the arena, the larger venue that you play, the less personal it becomes. When I play solo as I am tonight. Well actually I’m Let me go when I play so much more converses with the audience. There’s a lot more dialogue going on between myself and them and it becomes a lot more personal experience. And I think that helps keep it fresh also.
David Ralph [17:15]
So if you got to the stage where you’re playing Madison Square Garden for free nights, do you think that it will lose something do you do you think you would fall into that same trap of being disconnected to the
Eddy Mann [17:27]
possible certainly when you get as large as Springsteen and people like that who have been playing that size arena for so long? I think it’s easy to get a little disengaged from your audience. Sure.
David Ralph [17:39]
But let’s play one of your songs now and I’ve been listening to your album all week. I really, really like it but this one really has has hit home for me which is ironic because it’s called home again. So if you allow us, I want to play a little bit of home again from the album Big Love. Here we go.
Eddy Mann [18:12]
When the heart is right, and you say, don’t you know, I’m home again? Mandy’s pure in the fooding. Sure, don’t you know? I’m home again. I’ve had my slips in the day. But don’t you know? I’m doing good. And that do is you? Don’t you know, I’m home again. We’re muscles at peace. And now we’re receipts. built, you know, I’m home again.
David Ralph [19:07]
Now home again seems to be a song that says a lot about you. As I said in the introduction, there seems to be a connection to family and home, which is very strong. Would that be right?
Eddy Mann [19:21]
Absolutely. I don’t think I think no matter where you live, no matter what part of the world you live in, no matter what you’re going through, whenever you are away or away from the place you call home, it always feels good when you return. And for me that that happens on number of levels that happens if I’m away for a period of time from my wife. There’s a there’s just a warm feeling. There’s a content there’s a secureness of being back with her again, just being back into the building, the place that I call home, and I’m a man of faith. So certainly being in line with my father in heaven, isn’t is another way for me to just be in that that Place of just feeling, feeling more feeling comfort, feeling good about yourself, where your life set,
David Ralph [20:06]
and you totally and I think we know the answer already. But do you think that you’re totally in the right place now and then in five years time, you’re still gonna be totally in the right place because you’re you’re within that creative process that you’re so addicted to.
Eddy Mann [20:20]
I think if I again, if I allow it to play out the way it’s supposed to play out that I’m always going to be in the right place. I’m often I’ll play somewhere until someone will tell me no, you should you should be playing in a much larger place. You should be doing this. You should be doing that. And I’m always trying to correct them that No, no, this seems to be right where I’m supposed to be. You know, maybe I can handle that other thing. And I’m supposed to be right here. I’m supposed to be here tonight talking with you. You know, expressing having a conversation about that last time like this played. So I think a lot of it has to do with allowing the process to play out. I think you can get in trouble when you start forcing things you may end up in a place you’re not supposed to be
David Ralph [20:58]
as long a song Hey, Add an Eagles vibe. He reminded me of like Tequila Sunrise or one of the sort of classic Eagles songs. How do you how do you get your sort of influences? Do you sort of look at the classic artists or do you just do your own stuff?
Eddy Mann [21:14]
I have I’ve listened to so much music even now i i always listens to all types of music. And when I write that stuff just comes out. I don’t sit down to specifically write a country song or an Eagles song. But you know, sometimes it’s the melody that will take it there sometimes it’s the words might just be the hook of the song. Sometimes it could be just a rhythmic pattern that that makes it seem and or feel. I always feel good when someone tells me like he just told me that sounds a lot like the Eagles. I think that’s really cool because I was never even thinking about the Eagles when I wrote that. So I feel like maybe I you know, the Eagles certainly have been an influence in my life. But if if I’m writing A song and I’m sitting down, I’m thinking, I’m gonna write an eagle song. And then I play it for you. And you say, Well, that sounds just like an eagle. So I failed. And I haven’t done anything with it. So the influence is going to come out. But I think, again, I’m repeating myself, but even in the studio, I’m trying to, again, allow these songs to see what they’re supposed to be, what my life to be what it’s supposed to be, I want my art to be what it’s supposed to be, it’s going to, it’s going to affect each person in a different way, someone else may get a very positive message from it, and someone else we get no message at all. Or a negative one. I’m always trying to encourage people to do if you really hate one of the songs, tell me why. You know, write me a letter text me call me up, do something and let you know, aren’t supposed to stimulate, you know, people get a reaction from them. So sometimes even a negative one could be could be a positive.
David Ralph [22:53]
And you do get many negative messages sent to you
Eddy Mann [22:56]
know, on the whole very soon and I don’t know As you know, the people that feel the most comfortable being negative around us are the ones that love us the most are the ones that just really truly hate us. And I probably wanted in the middle, the ones that I’m most interested in, unless, of course, I’m writing something, you know, and I could play it for my life. And hopefully, if it really gets really bad to say, that’s really bad. You have to trust, some kind of accountability team around you or you don’t have a clue. I’m too close to the music. I’m constantly playing songs for other people just to get their opinion of them to try to get an honest opinion from someone else’s that doesn’t have any emotional ties to them.
David Ralph [23:36]
So when your wife gives you feedback, do you say to him, Yeah, all right, Simon cow, you know, I’ve been working on this do you? Did you accept it? Or do you think to yourself or just keep it to yourself?
Eddy Mann [23:47]
No, I think it’s invaluable to have people around you who will be dead honest. in it that we don’t need. The last thing we need are Yes, people standing all around. It’s just pushing this up and down. Notice how great we are all the time, we’re not going to grow at all. If we’re surrounded by those kind of people I didn’t get here, because everybody told me how great it was I got here because I failed. And I wanted to, and I worked hard to succeed. So it’s part of part of I think, you know, a lot of our stuff. A lot of the way our world has changed is that is where it’s sometimes they feel like the world doesn’t want us to tell someone they’re not achieving, you know, we’re going to hurt their feelings or they’re going to get upset, or that’s those kind of comments are the things that that kind of pushed beyond made me work harder. When I played sports, and I didn’t make the team I went back and practising I better when I first started playing guitar, and I wasn’t getting hired after any auditions. You know, I could sit around and complain and battle the bands or I could take a good look and say, Well, maybe you’re just not good enough yet. So you know that, like I said, the negative, the negative can be a positive if you accept it the right way
David Ralph [24:59]
in the right light. Let’s play some words now. And that’s gonna take us to the next stage of the conversation here is Jim Carrey.
Eddy Mann [25:06]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [25:31]
So so your dad was a P, your dad was a pianist. And was that his job? Or was that his hobby? How were you inspired by your dad,
Eddy Mann [25:41]
my dad played almost like a full I guess a full time basis. Until I till I was born. I was very young, he kind of he went and took a job with General Electric, very large company here in the states around the world and he did very well by them, he started playing in a part time way. And as he got older, he kept cutting back, you know, from four nights, three nights to just the weekends. And so when I was in high school, and started to try to think of you trying to think like in career where he’s really impossible when you’re 1718 years old, you don’t really have a clue what you’re going to do in life. But I was surrounded by people at that time that were trying to make me choose a profession. And my father, because business splits, it’s almost I can’t believe you’re saying that I never heard that quote before, but it really brings to my life. My father gave 40 years of his life to General Electric and was was happy and content and he wanted the same thing for me not realising that. That wasn’t how I was wired. There was no way I was going to be able to sit behind a desk from eight to five and be happy and as life would play out.
My Father was forced into early retirement. And, again, you know, it worked. It worked really well for him to a certain point, and then it kind of left him high and dry. It took my father a long time to get a good grasp on what I was going to be and to accept it and to embrace it. And he I’m not sure if he’s still
David Ralph [27:21]
around now. Is your father still around?
Eddy Mann [27:23]
Yes, my father is at nine years old. triple bypass three years ago, is a mighty strong man. I wish I could get him to sit at the piano again. That’s the part that bothers me the most. I’d love to sit down and just play with Why Why won’t he do that? I think it’s the physical part of not being able to play the way he wants to play. I think it just he doesn’t enjoy it because he can’t play what he hears anymore. And I don’t I don’t, I don’t know what that feels like. But if I’m fortunate enough to live that long, and I may I may recognise it and be able to relate to the world. He’s at this point, his life
David Ralph [28:01]
is interesting. I was watching an interview with Eric Clapton on YouTube. And he was saying that he was watching some of his early stuff. And he was saying he can’t play like that anymore. He was watching himself and he actually thought, I’m not that good anymore. And with Eric Clapton and the sort of legends, you kind of almost think that they get better and better and better as they get older. But of course, you’re sort of them. Your text demonstrates changes, doesn’t it?
Eddy Mann [28:28]
Yeah, he has to be able to kind of roll with age a little bit. That’s another thing you can’t fight. I mean, there’s nothing I can do. That’s going to make me feel 20 years younger again. So I need to get a good grasp of where I’m at. And it’s just like my body like an ever changing landscape that requires different type of pruning and work from time to time now, and the more in tune I am with that, the healthier I am and the easier it is for me to move from, from from job to job, from gig to gig, whatever you
David Ralph [29:00]
rubbish, isn’t it getting old, I wake up in the morning and I’ve injured myself during the night. And you’ve been I, you know, in when you were younger, you might have injured yourself in the bedroom in a totally different way. But now I just go to sleep and I wake up, and something hurts. But that’s how it should be.
Eddy Mann [29:18]
Yeah, I found, I found out the hard way that I can travel as many miles between getting it as I used to Americans still do it, but I don’t feel as well doing it. So I naturally leave at the end of the performance and feel like well, you know, by stealing money, you know, they, you know, people don’t always pick up on it, but I know how I felt during that performance. So I have to be more realistic about it. I allow myself a little more downtime between events just so I can be sharp and full and did at an energy level where I want to be but I think we all have to do whatever our profession is. Yeah, no, absolutely.
David Ralph [29:53]
I I know exactly what you’re talking about that and throughout my career, not just on the microphone. But doing training courses sometimes, I suppose it goes back to what we were talking before. We’ve sort of Billy Joe and elton john, you’re doing your best. You’re trying to get into the mood, but it just doesn’t hit home. And I suppose that’s where the experience and the professionalism comes in. But your, your audience don’t realise that you don’t want to be an optimist.
Eddy Mann [30:19]
Right? Well, again, I think you have to be honest about who you are. I mean, some people I’ve known people that have gone through their whole life thinking that there’s somebody else. It doesn’t matter how many times I tell them that it’s not who you are, they they see somebody different in the mirror. And you know, I’m trying desperately to see truly who I am when I look in the mirror. And that really helps me adapt if I have to
David Ralph [30:43]
tell you skin by what you see, when you look at things do you think oh my god, you know, he really, you know, time has gotten me or you totally comfortable with with the image that looks back at you.
Eddy Mann [30:54]
I think on the most part, I’m pretty comfortable with who I am at this point. I don’t, I don’t live in the past. I really am excited about tomorrow all the time. And I think that helps. If you’re somebody that that fears change, then I think you tend to live in the past more and you worry about what tomorrow is going to bring. I’m kind of embrace change. So I’m excited about what’s going to happen tonight. At this particular gig. I’m excited about what’s going to happen tomorrow, my travel today. I look forward to all that. So I think it’s easier for me to accept change, and, and just kind of roll with it. What am I gonna do?
David Ralph [31:40]
Well, absolutely, David Bowie said any changes and is that that’s what life is all about, isn’t it from one moment to another, it’s how you roll with it. And some people roll with it really easily and some people don’t you seem like a kind of almost, you’ve got like a Zen like quality. It comes across but you totally savour the moment you totally know your place and you kind of just roll with it. You’re like a twig on the mighty stream of life, Mr. Man.
Eddy Mann [32:09]
Oh, man, I know what my father raises a memory to me that my father when I was fairly young told me that if I was going to be the only way to be happy in life was to be able to deal with the problems that came up. He said you better problems every day and how you deal with them will determine whether you’re going to have a happy life or not. And that’s always stuck with me. And I think that it’s part of how I look at each day when it when things don’t go the way I maybe I planned them that they
David Ralph [32:36]
were going to play some words now that really emphasise what we’re talking about. And these are words that Steve Jobs said which made us name the show Join Up Dots. Here is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [32:47]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward. You can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path, and that will make all the difference.
Eddy Mann [33:22]
Two words. Absolutely. Sounds like we’ve been talking about about that. I got nothing in common with Steve Jobs. That thought process Absolutely. I have no trouble looking back and connecting the dots in my life. A lot of times it’s a straight line. I didn’t even realise it was at the time I thought it was all over the place. But, you know, I, like I said once in a while you get off the path a little bit. But there’s a confidence moving forward. There’s a confidence song As long as I’m just following and going with the flow and not fighting, trying to swim against it, that I’m going to be right or I’m supposed to be. And that excites me, that excites me because I have no idea. I have absolutely no idea what where I’m going to be next week. At this time, what I’m going to be doing what’s going to be happening around me in the world in my life, my loved ones, my band, what I’m going to be writing, that’s exciting.
David Ralph [34:21]
So how do you know that you’re going to be able to pay the bills, if it’s that unstable or exciting, as you say?
Eddy Mann [34:31]
Well, there’s two thoughts come to my mind. One is that I live a lifestyle which doesn’t, which makes it easier for me to meet my bills, because I don’t have any kind of debt. And I know that’s absurd. I’m an American. I’m an American musician, who’s releasing albums each year, and I don’t know anybody, anything. That in itself, you know, makes me a different a different man. But that makes it easier for me. It makes it a lot easier for me to Trust and live without stress, and without worry. And I think that helps. That helps enormously when you’re trying to just live creatively. I don’t I trust I you know, I’ve gotten this far in my life, being a very trusting man, and I’m unbelievably blessed. I don’t have a lot of answers for why I have some of the things I have and why I’ve been I’ve had the opportunities that I have. My only answer is that I’ve made myself I prepared myself to like, again, be ready to take the challenge when it presented itself and trusting it
David Ralph [35:36]
would be your big document. If you look back over your life and I always ask all the guests based on the Join Up Dots timeline from birth to where you are now. Was there a moment that you really thought yeah, this is it. This is this is where I’m heading. I know this now. It’s in my heart. This is my big dot.
Eddy Mann [35:56]
I think picking up a guitar. We just did. An enormous change in my personality overnight. And I was still a young kid in school and I can remember people coming over friends of my parents coming over and saying, I saw your son last night in the hall was it I was playing in a band singing and talking and you know, it made such an enormous difference in my life. That, that that would be that would be the big, if there was a, if there was a little glow around that.it would it would have been the fact that I was really brought up in a faithful family and and being brought up in that environment taught me to trust in in in the future, and in trusting that God was going to be watching out for me and not to fear things in general. So I’ve always been an optimist. I’ve always written positive songs. I’ve always seen the world from a positive stance, even big love which was written in a time In the world certainly was in upheaval and in turmoil. And in dealing with just playing, I don’t I don’t want what won’t be called violence will be called. But I chose to have this idyllic, peaceful, compassionate look about the world and I wanted to inspire people to live that way and to understand and actually live, live out with the power of love and do.
David Ralph [37:26]
Now, this is the end of the show. And this is the part that we called a sermon on the mind when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Edie, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m going to play the theme, and when it fades, you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mic
Unknown Speaker [37:54]
with the best beat of the show,
Eddy Mann [38:11]
In high school, you just found this instrument. If feeling good about yourself, you’ve got a voice to speak in the world. You’ve got confidence in yourself, that you got to realise that along the way, not everything’s gonna be perfect that they’re going to be times that, that people may not appreciate what you’re offering may not understand what it is you’re trying to offer may give you bad advice. But what I want, what I want you to hear is that you need to stay true to who you are. You need to stay inspired. You need to stay on focus, believe in yourself. And constantly be preparing yourself for what’s coming up next and take every opportunity that comes along the way. Trusting in something good is going to come Eddie,
David Ralph [39:03]
what’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you?
Eddy Mann [39:06]
My website Eddy Mann.com add live Ma and I’m also on Facebook.
Eddie man, musician and my Twitter handle is Edie underscore man.
David Ralph [39:25]
We have over links on the show notes just before we say goodbye to you. We’re going to play out with one of the songs on Digg love. We’ve listened to home again which one should we play out with?
Eddy Mann [39:37]
Oh, let’s play out with this type of dries up. job openings opening cut on the album. And it is perfect for what we talked about today. Each one of us wakes up with days where everything we say seems to come out wrong everything we touched just dispose apart. But you got to fight through those moments. And you got to be heard you got to have a chance to speak your peace of mind to make Your Mark, gotta rise up.
David Ralph [40:03]
We will play that straight after saying goodbye to you. Eddie, thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. Please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Eddie, man, thank you so much.
Eddy Mann [40:21]
Thank you for having me on. Thank you for the support of the album. I really appreciate it. love your show. Look forward to coming back.
David Ralph [40:28]
So Eddie, man in a car driving across America, hopefully the audio wasn’t too bad. He did dip out a lot. But we wanted him on the show. And in a way I kind of liked that he was living the American dream, driving along to his next gig tonight. Free, loving life, relaxed, chilled. He’s got so much to offer as his albums do and if you can go over and listen to dig love and download it and the consequence that’s coming up. you’ll really enjoy it. I like that. Club a lot. I’ve been playing a lot this week and we’re going to play out now with the song that he was talking about which is a rise up. So thank you very much for listening to this episode of Join Up Dots. We will be back again very very shortly and until then, is Eddie man rise up.
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