Christian Arriola Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Christian Arriola
Christian Arriola is our guest today on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots free podcast interview.
He is a man who is on a mission to inspire the world to flex the old hustle muscle and create a life of their dreams.
And if you have listened to the very first episodes of Join Up Dots you will remember that I had a very similar outlook to life.
But do you need to hustle, or is it more about doing the right things, at the right time in a simplified manner?
Well, todays guest is certainly hustling and also doing the right things at the right time, so he is well and truly on his way.
As he says “My entrepreneurial story began when I discovered that you could buy things for cheap and resell them for 10x… That’s how I started selling ice sticks when I was 8 years old in my neighborhood. I remember buying those ice sticks for $.05 cents a piece and selling them for a full $1!
Believe it or not, I would sell anywhere from $40-$80 dlls in a single day. (Might not sound much to you, but for an 8 year old was definitely A FORTUNE!)
After that, I’ve been jumping from business to business, tried all different industries I could, tested products in different niches, all trying to find what would really make me happy.
How The Dots Joined Up For Christian
And for many years, I’ve been focusing on how to generate more money.
All my decisions have been based on increasing my income no matter what.
However, I now feel I took the wrong approach to success…
After a crazy 18-hr drive on a solo adventure road trip I did recently, I came to realize that there was a much easier and better way for me to succeed:
To do what makes me happy and stop chasing the money, as money WILL CHASE ME!
The result of this trip and of all the hours I meditated while looking at The Golden Bridge is me creating The Hustle Show, where I want to motivate 100s of entrepreneurs every week and to show the world that even though entrepreneurship is pretty damn harsh and cruel, it’s also extremely comforting.”
So from his entrepreneurial beginnings offering the world sexy lingerie to bring the spark back into their marriages, what made him pivot to where he is today?
And is success based on doing what you love, or providing to the world what they love instead?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Christian Arriola
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Christian Arriola such as:
Christian shares how he struggled to believe in himself when younger, even though he looks back and realises much of it was just excuses.
We discuss how much of the information that we see on line (especially FB and social media) is simply fake news, and why you MUST connect with people offline to get the real story.
Why it is so important to know what your “own personal competition” is to benchmark your progress.
Are you a better person than the day before is as good as you can hope for, and then work from that point.
Christian reveals how he found himself in a dark mindset in his life, and the steps he took to climb out of the hole.
How To Connect With Christian Arriola
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Full Transcription Of Christian Arriola Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:25]
Yes, hello there. Good morning, everybody. And welcome to Join Up Dots. It’s a good day in Join Up Dots land. None of the systems are working microphones just barely working. And it’s all because of Bill Gates. Yes, Mr. Gates, if you want to come on to an episode of Join Up Dots and share with me why this morning, I had to tell my mouse what button I needed to click, then you come on you Come on. I know you’re giving all your money away to charity at the moment, but from a little bit my way so I can buy a new system, apple, maybe Apple is the way to go. Anyway, I’m sure today’s guest doesn’t get hung up on technical issues, because he’s a man on a mission to inspire the world to flex the old hustle muscle and create a life of their dreams. And if you’ve listened to the very first episodes of Join Up Dots, you’ll remember that I had a very similar outlook to life. But do you need to hustle? Is it more about doing the right things at the right time? In a simplified manner? Well, today’s guest is certainly hustling and also doing the right things at the right time. So he’s well and truly on his way as he says my entrepreneurial story began when I discovered that you could buy things for cheap and resell them for 10 times the value. That’s how I started selling ice sticks. When I was eight years old in my neighbourhood, I remember buying those ice sticks for five cents apiece and selling them for for $1. Believe it or not, I would sell anywhere from 40 to $80 in a single day might not sound much to you. But for an eight year old was definitely a fortune. And after that I’ve been jumping from business to business, tried all different industries. I could tested products in different niches, all trying to find what would really make me happy and for many years, I’ve been focusing on how to generate more money all my decisions have been based on increase my income, no matter what. However, however, I now feel I took the wrong approach to success. After a crazy 18 hour drive on a solo adventure road trip I did recently I came to realise that there was a much easier and better way for me to succeed, to do what makes me happy and stop chasing the money as money will chase me. Now the result of this trip and all the hours I meditated while looking at the Golden bridge is me creating that hustle show where I want to motivate hundreds of entrepreneurs every week and to show the world but even though entrepreneurship is pretty damn harsh and cruel. It’s also extremely comforting. So from his entrepreneurial beginnings offering the world sexy lingerie to bring the spark back into their marriages. What made him pivot to where he is today. And he’s success based on doing what you love or providing to the world what by love instead. Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Christian Arriola. Good morning, Christian, how are you, sir?
Christian Arriola [2:57]
Hey, David, I’m very excited and thrilled to be here with you today.
David Ralph [3:01]
Well, I’m excited and thrilled as well, because you are on one side of the microphone, I am on the other side. And that’s about as good as we can hope for at the moment in it that that this kind of this, this fabric of consciousness that we are going to weave through this show actually stays connecting us.
Christian Arriola [3:18]
Absolutely. And I mean, I wish I could just jump in a flat and go visit you, man. We’ve been meaning to go there.
David Ralph [3:24]
I don’t want to come here. I tell you I spent a very pleasant weekend in El Paso once and I’ll actually share with this now, you probably remember this because you live there. But I have a vague memory of going to a movie theatre right on the top of a cliff in El Paso overlooking which I can only imagine was Mexico or something a million miles down below. And realising at that moment that there was a weld waiting for me it was a real sort of entrepreneur moment where I felt like I was on the top of the world looking down on creation as the carpenters once said, You’re too young for that. And realising that what’s the point in staying in an office when I can actually do something to in packed the weld as a whole? Do you know that spot that movie theatre on a cliff?
Christian Arriola [4:10]
I’m trying to remember but to be honest, I don’t know if it’s still open because I don’t remember one. But I totally agree with you. I mean being in tough, especially here because there’s a lot of places here in the US that don’t have mountains. I don’t know if you have mountains down there. But you know, here we have spectacular view. So I totally hear rissani would your Cliff story.
David Ralph [4:32]
And now we have castles and drunk women basically United Kingdom is known. He’s known for both. So let’s look at your life. Christian. You are a host of the hustle show which I have gone over to iTunes, if anybody is wanting another fix on Join Up Dots go over to the hustle showcases great show. It’s quite a new show. What have you learned so far from actually getting behind the microphone and talking to people about entrepreneurship.
Christian Arriola [4:58]
I’ve learned exactly what I was learning For David, because like you were saying, in the amazing interview that you did for me, I mean, you, you basically splain it better than myself. But you know, I’ve been through the journey, and I’ve been through the all the struggles. And most of the times when you are hustling out there, and you are an entrepreneur, trying to figure out things, you’re on your own. And sometimes you feel like, you know, you feel that you’re, you know, you’re alone in the world, because everybody’s betting against you, everybody wants you to fail, and you’re basically on your own. So while I’ve been talking to we just finished recording Episode 30. So, you know, I definitely know a little bit of insights. Now, after talking to 30 successful entrepreneurs, and we all agree on one thing, you know, success is not overnight, it’s not gonna take, he’s not gonna happen tomorrow, for sure, it’s probably gonna take you many, many years. And the struggles are natural, they’re normal. But a lot of people are just hiding them, you know, they’re not talking about it. So you kind of feel that you’re the only one struggling.
David Ralph [5:58]
I think we’ve entrepreneurship for my journey so far through it. When you get to a point when success comes to you, you actually realise success success was already there, it was, but it was like too close to you, you couldn’t quite realise. But the things that you could just do easily was the business. And even though I spend all my time saying to people, you look for yet internal super talent, people will still look further afield and try to upskill in areas, but they’re just not very good at until they get to the point where they realise Actually, I knew this all along this, this is my business, and then it all comes together. Would you agree?
Christian Arriola [6:34]
Oh, absolutely. And that’s exactly, you know, the purpose of the of my show, you know, I always have that, that passion to inspire other people to take action and, you know, start going after their dreams, for whatever reason, for many, many years, I completely forgot about it. And that’s what you know, suddenly came back to me is like, Oh, my God, I get to do this. And that’s why I just took action. I mean, I had the idea on a on a Tuesday night. And by Wednesday, I was already building the website. So I’m an action taker.
David Ralph [7:07]
So So why did you Why did you forget the dream? Why didn’t you sort of just cling to it? Because it’s what we want in life, isn’t it? Nobody wakes up at a point of their life and goes, I want to just sit in an office behind a computer screen for nine hours a day. That’s nobody’s dream life when they get a few points down them. So why do we all kind of do it?
Christian Arriola [7:29]
Oh, yeah, I totally agree with you. And that, you know, I actually went to college and graduated, had a corporate job. And all my life, my family always told me that, you know, when you go to college, you go get a nice job, you, you buy the nice car, the nice house, have a nice family, you retire and then die. But I always knew that I didn’t want that. It’s like, I’m not gonna wait until I retired to enjoy money and to enjoy life. Like, there’s got to be something else that I can do. And so for many years, I started doing side hustles never full time, but I started having side businesses while I was in corporate America, because I always fear you know, I always had that fear that I couldn’t possibly do it full time, like getting, you know, that fear that
David Ralph [8:16]
I’m gonna jump in. Now, why did you have that fear? Why didn’t you believe in yourself at that point?
Christian Arriola [8:22]
I think is because of the of the background, and I’ll tell you a little bit about my background. It’s funny, when you mentioned Mexico, I’m actually born and raised in Mexico, and I moved to the US seven years ago, right. And in Mexico, the The possibilities are very limited, when it comes to resources and, and tools and everything is a lot 10 times more difficult than it is in other countries, like, you know, like you are here in the US, Mexico, it’s it’s stuff, and the mentality and the mindset of 99% of the people is that they can’t see you do better than them, or they’ll drag you down. So I come from the even this and this was happening in my family, right? You know, every day, I would bring up, you know, my dreamers, like, I’m gonna do this, and then at least three people will tell me, you know, you know, you can’t do that. That’s impossible. That’s that’s not possible to make, you know, it’s it’s total BS. So I grew up with this mentality. And for many years, I think it did, it did get to me, right? It did change my mindset, and it affect me, and it kept dragging me down. And I think that’s the source of that fear and doubt that I had for many years to even start anything.
David Ralph [9:31]
But I can understand that, but that’s just kind of excuses, isn’t it? You know, because we see people who have created millions from starting in a field in India with probably less than you had in Mexico. So it’s all ultimately excuses.
Christian Arriola [9:49]
Yes, they are. Yeah. And it wasn’t until the day I realised that it was an excuse that I actually believe in me and that I saw that exactly what you said. I mean, there’s a lot of people Both are worse than me. And they’re crushing it. They’re killing it out there. So if they could do it, I mean, I can do it too, right. So that’s exactly the the moment I had many, many years ago, I think this was like when I was in, not in high school, but probably the end of college that I finally realised that okay, entrepreneurship is possible, if there’s so many young entrepreneurs and you know, with with horrible backgrounds, or went through difficult life situations, and they succeeded, like, you know, I’m just saying excuses to myself.
David Ralph [10:35]
Did you think that actually, it’s easier in some ways, because I actually do, but a lot of people have got an opposing view to this. But I actually think that one of the reasons why I didn’t get going till much later in life, you won’t believe this Christian, but I’m 47 years old, I know, you look at my picture on my website, and you think he must be about 1819. But no, I’m actually 47. And for many, many years, I went up to the City of London and just did a job. And that was it. And I kind of wonder whether my life is too comfortable. There wasn’t anything to rally against, I had nice holidays at a nice car, a nice house, and everything was just okay. I wonder if that was all stripped away from me. And I got taken back to survival, where it was either fight back or kind of die, whether I would have got going earlier. Did you think if you look at all the people that have really hit the ground, do you think they all started with less? Or do you think that by having a comfortable background, you’ve actually got more chance? What do you think?
Christian Arriola [11:34]
Oh, no, absolutely, I think that this is this is going to be kind of weird. But I do think that people that have a more difficult background, have more hunger to succeed. Because what, you know, when when keyword that you just mentioned is it’s comfortable, when you feel comfortable, you don’t want to you don’t want to change things around. You know, I, when I was in corporate America, I would see my colleagues, you know, they had their family, they had their activities, they were comfortable. And they they they had been working there for 15 years. And I remember them asking at least three or four times to each of them is like, why are you still here? And you know, why are you doing that doing something else like is boring here, you know, eight to five here, and then go go home and go to the activity with the kids. And then done for today. And that was their Monday to Saturday. And all they would ever tell me is well, I’m comfortable. You know, why would I change things? But I think the the you know, the reality is that when you feel comfortable, I think you’re losing already you know you that that moment that you settle you lost.
David Ralph [12:35]
That’s how I see it. I see the same Let’s play some words that really sort of emphasise what we’re saying here is Rocky,
Rocky Balboa [12:42]
you may or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much you could take. They keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done.
David Ralph [12:58]
Yeah, it’s all about getting punched in the face, isn’t it and accepting that that’s part of the journey, which I’ve been for many, many years, I didn’t get punched in the face. I think I just going to coasted until a promotion came along and coasted until something else came along. I don’t think I struggled like Rocky was saying.
Christian Arriola [13:16]
Yeah, and you know, I, I take my hat off for rocky there. Because, you know, we when we talk about success, and when most people talk to you about success is they’ll focus on being right on doing the right thing and doing, you know, the only the right choices that are gonna get you there. But very few people actually tell you that you’re going to fail at least 100 times before you hit one off, you know, and that’s why I this was a mentality that I adopted earlier. After seeing that. And I was I’ll be honest with you, David, the biggest regrets I have in my life are the actions that I didn’t take, you know, those business ideas that I had that I thought were good, but because everybody said that they had no future, I didn’t do it. I didn’t believe in myself. It didn’t go for it. And I kid you not within a year after I had the idea somebody else had it and they crushed it. So that was a big, big lesson for me. And that’s exactly when I when I decided that moving forward if the idea is good enough for me to excite me, like I’m gonna go for it all in, even if I fail because I know it’s going to be a lesson learned.
David Ralph [14:24]
Yeah, but you can’t you can’t have regrets at all Kenya, you know, we can all sit there and we can beat ourselves up about stuff. One of the things about Join Up Dots so we talk about every day is the fact that when you get far enough away from those things that people were crushing it on, more often than not years ago, actually, I don’t think I really fancy doing it anyway because what I’m doing now is brilliant, and I love every second of it. And if I had spent my time doing that, I probably might be wealthy but I wouldn’t be very happy.
Christian Arriola [14:51]
Yes, exactly. And that’s that’s the whole purpose of my my podcasts and YouTube show. You know, it makes me so happy to get on the camera and finally be myself. Without faking it, because, you know, you’ve seen it on social media, everybody’s faking it until they make it. And they’re just putting this image that is not real. And for me, when I get behind the mic I myself, you know, and I’m enjoying the heck out of it. And I talked to I say this aloud, man. I mean, I was I was chasing the money, and I was focusing on on trends and how to monetize them. And yeah, you will make money, but I wasn’t very happy. But now that I’m making the show, I’m happy as it can be yet I haven’t made a single dollar. So like, Okay,
David Ralph [15:32]
well, yeah, I can totally understand it. Because we have a podcast, it does take quite a while until you, you find your money it shouldn’t do. And that’s actually one of the things I teach now, you should be able to make it from the very first listener that comes to you. But looking at you now, Ben, what, where is your income coming in? From? Are you fully entrepreneurial? Have you got side hustles? Are you in employment? What you doing Christian?
Christian Arriola [15:57]
I do. I actually co started a green tea business with my fiance over almost two years ago, we started an e commerce store selling matcha green tea. And we started doing really well in the e commerce side. But my fiancee kept saying, you know, this is this is one of those things that is more experience oriented, we need a physical store, we need to do something, right. So I started I started to move things around. And the story is quite fascinating that I, I believe, and this is and this is when it comes to the mindset shift from previews ideas to this one, I kid you not I got my resignation letter without knowing what I was going to do with a T. And I submitted it and they told him I’ll see you later because I’m bored here. And this job is just miserable. And I quit. And you know, my last day wasn’t a Friday and by Monday, I was already knocking on doors to coffee shops and gyms and, and other businesses that I knew that could carry my green tea. And within a few days, the opportunities are starting to open. So we ended up landing an opportunity inside a mall where we were able to open our first retail store. So that’s my you know now my part time cuz I’m focusing full time on the podcast but that’s that’s my income right now. You know, steel managing a little bit of the store, trying to step down so my fiance can take over so I can focus full time with my with my show,
David Ralph [17:24]
as well. I don’t quite get with you. If we look back at the eight year old Christian, and you’re ripping off other kids for $1 on these these ice, which is shocking Christian, there’s going to be people listening going What? Well, he paid five cents, and I paid $1 can’t believe you obviously had that the hustle, you had the American Hustle in you at that stage. But where Where did he get lost then was it just the belief because I would have thought if I was eight years old and I was making $80 a day, I’d be able to scale that quite easily. Because you know, you’re starting to have investment opportunities. Once you’ve got a bit of money, you can put it into something else, and you can buy Office products. So where did that sort of hustle disappear, then
Christian Arriola [18:09]
it disappeared. Like I told you a little earlier with the family mindset. Nobody supporting me, I had no clue where to go. Like, I didn’t know what to do with that money. Now that you mentioned, and we look back, and we actually joined the dots, you know, we can tell like, Oh, I should have done this with the money. Of course I spend it because nobody, you know, everybody was showing me how they would make money and they will go spend it. So that’s what I knew, you know, I didn’t know, I didn’t know what I should do with the money. So I kind of feel that, you know, my entrepreneurial tendencies went away for a few years, while I was growing up, and they came back until I wasn’t on high school. But, you know, all those years, I missed out on many things. But you know, everything, everything happens for a reason. So, um, you know, there’s, there’s gonna be a good reason why that happened. And, and, you know, I’m just, I’m just happy now. And that’s what matters. And but, you know, they didn’t go away for a few years. And I think it was hold you to the to the I didn’t have a support. I didn’t have anybody to look up to that could be like, Okay, well, maybe my uncle is investing in this, I’m gonna go ask because like, there’s nobody in the family that was doing anything that wasn’t a job.
David Ralph [19:21]
As I’ve realised, recently, very, very recently that I’m actually able to become more successful by not being online as much as I was before. And I was by blasting it all out. I went off to wherever I go San Lucia, but my daughter’s wedding. And I made a vow that for 11 days, I would not go anywhere near the internet and the connectivity and I would just leave Join Up Dots operating on automatic pilot, and that’s what I did. And as I was out there, my brain didn’t have anything to think about. So it would just sort of have ideas and ideas would just pop into my head and I realised one of the things that will help Take me to the next level is the fact that so many people want to create an entrepreneurial venture. But ultimately, they don’t want to be sitting in front of the computer for nine hours a day, because you might as well just be, it’s quite lonely. If you’re gonna do that you might as well be at work, because at least you’ve got people to talk to and you know, secretaries to chase and things like that. But when you’re sort of working on your own office, so I realised that my core focus but everything Christian is not money is not profile is not anything that I thought I was building up to. It’s the ability to actually create a live which is 100%. This connectable, if there’s such a word that you can go off the grid, and it actually still operates without you. And it’s strange when that comes to you. Wow, I should have known this, I could have seen this. This is what I’ve always liked doing, you know, just disappearing from people. But since then, we’ve been back two or three days, I’ve had about five clients go, I want to learn that. I want to learn that how are you doing this? And it just comes together. Which brings me to your statement in your introduction about money will chase you, once you find the thing, but you really makes you happy. You don’t have to worry so much about lead generation, people will find you is it’s a goldmine, isn’t it?
Christian Arriola [21:20]
It is and it’s it’s legit. And, and, you know, unfortunately, it takes us time to learn that lesson. I think that lesson should be taught very young to everybody. Because you go through the journey, and you go to the ups and downs and all the struggles to learn it. And it’s it’s Goldman. I mean, once you realise it, it’s mind blowing. And just like you said, I mean, you went that way, and you work completely offline. And you get clients like without even selling it without even pushing it. Because you’re doing what you love. Right? And, and that’s how I felt with the show is like this is it right? This is this is what I came here for. And this is what I like, and this is what I love doing. And that’s why I’m doing it for free because and I don’t even worry about monetization because I didn’t know is going to happen, right? Just like you said, I mean money money’s going to chase the just gonna chase me because now I’m finally doing what I love.
David Ralph [22:12]
And what why is it that you really love thing? Because we’re talking about the hustle show, once again, go over to iTunes people. But what is it about it? Is it is it the process? Is it the conversations what really sort of lights your fire?
Christian Arriola [22:26]
It’s, that’s a great question, David. Um, it’s the fact that it allows me to connect with amazing people like you, and all the entrepreneurial, you know, celebrities or or, you know, profiles out there that are amazing people by but, you know, they get hit so many times a day, people asking for free stuff. And of course, they have filters, and they have the, you know, the somebody in the middle to that you can get to them. And the show has allowed me to connect with them and have a real nice conversation. And you learn from these people that have gone through it, right, and you make relationships and we end up I you know, to be honest, out of the 30 probably 20 already good friends of mine that we talk every other day, you know, a couple times a week. And for me connecting with like minded people, it’s mind blowing, that’s what I love. And you know, when it comes back to grew up growing up as an entrepreneur on my own, like, nobody was supporting the ideas and nobody was supporting my, my mindset for me to finally find out how to connect with other people that are like minded. And that’s the part that I love. So, you know, I love the conversations, I know, hearing their stories of the struggles and their journey because it inspires me to, you know, to just keep pushing man, I mean, you know, the journey stuff and and like we said before, you know, you could you could be feeling you know, it’s easier to, to get comfortable in a job than to go after building something new. That’s for sure. Like, you know, if you’re looking for something easy and something comfortable, entrepreneurial is not a right. I mean, just go get a job and, and enjoy life. But if you’re if you are one of those people that know that there’s something there’s going to be something more outside of your job, then that’s when the journey gets fun.
David Ralph [24:14]
I think actually, it’s the for a man is the closest thing to childbirth that we can do. You know, it’s just pain, pain and hardship every single day. And, you know, I really did go at the very beginning the first year of Join Up Dots. I did 365 hour long episodes every single day, on the back of doing my own job and hustling and stuff, and it just drains me and I was thinking this is not fun. This isn’t fun. Why? Why is everybody sort of saying obviously brilliant, I’m doing this I’m doing that and everything is amazing. And my life is absolute crap here and I just couldn’t work it out until I realised as you said, but a lot of what I was looking at were lies. It was lies people you go over to Facebook and you look at what they’re all saying Rubbish is rubbish. But you don’t realise that until you’ve actually gone through the journey yourself. And so once I switched off from Ober and just focused on what I was doing, I didn’t have that competition. I wasn’t chasing Christian thinking, Oh, he’s doing this. And he’s doing that. That’s what I should be doing. I just got my head down and just did what I did. And if things got done, things got done, if I didn’t, they didn’t. But no, nothing stopped. That’s the thing. Nothing died because I hadn’t created this new website, opt in, or this email list or whatever, nothing changed. It was just extra pressure I was putting on myself. So did you find the same as you’ve started building your business? Do you kind of think, ah, I should be doing this. And I should be doing that. And that should be working and this should be happening?
Christian Arriola [25:46]
Oh, yeah. And then I’m gonna tell you the recent story, actually, to answer your question. You know, for the first six months of 2017, I went through a horrible depression. And I say, depression when it comes to of course, emotional wreck ness, right. I felt lost. I felt like I had lost everything that that I was doing, like the purpose and why was I even going after entrepreneurship. And it was, it was horrendous. I mean, it’s something that I don’t, I don’t wish to anybody. But now that I look back, I know exactly the source that was feeling that depression, it was social media, it was comparing myself to other people of why we started at the same time, and this other guy or this other girl, they were crushing it already. And I wasn’t right. They were already at the level that they wanted. But I wasn’t. And, and this is a big No, no, right? So this is another lesson that I learned on the, you know, took me it took me a lot to learn, but I’m so glad I did that. For as long as you keep comparing yourself to other people, you’re going to live a miserable life. So you know, the the one thing that I that I learned is, you know, stay in your lane, stop comparing yourself to anybody doesn’t matter who they are either up or down, or it doesn’t matter. Everybody’s everybody’s the same. But stop comparing yourself to other people and just focus on your things. And it’s it’s simple, because you’re comparing with people that when different things and you so why do you even compare it? Right? I mean, if you want to, you probably want to achieve different things in life. Why would you even compare yourself to other people just just compare yourself to your to your yesterday self. And that’s, that’s my methodology nowadays. And I actually posted something recently where I said, you know, I’m a Vedic very competitive guy. But I don’t compete against anybody I compete against myself, I want to be better than yesterday’s Christian. And hopefully, tomorrow’s Christian is better than today. And that’s how I see things. So but it took me it took courage man to to learn that lesson. And you certainly go through through a lot of emotional redness, trying to learn the lesson and trying to figure out how to stop doing and how to stop looking for people in social media that are doing, quote unquote, better, you know, they’re, they’re more successful.
David Ralph [28:12]
Yeah, I know, I agree with you totally Christian. And what I would say to all the listeners out there is if you are looking to get going, this is my personal spin on it, go over on LinkedIn, if you haven’t got a LinkedIn account, sign up for it, and type in the name of your town, and entrepreneur groups or whatever. And you will find there’s a lot of groups in your area. Now, it’s very difficult for somebody really, to show you the highlights reel like they do on social media, when you’re sitting in a room with them. It’s more warts and all and you will walk out and you will see but they’re not driving around in Rolls Royces or driving around on a bicycle. You know, it’s just, it’s far more real and personal to get out there. So if you’re thinking of starting a business, and you’re, you’re looking around for inspiration, I really do recommend meeting people personally connect with them on LinkedIn, go to their groups, go to their evening classes, and find maybe one person in each group that you really connect with and build your, your virtual network that way before you start finding people in, you know, Mexico and Australia that you’re never ever going to meet and they’re just names and faces and stories online. Would you say Christian?
Christian Arriola [29:24]
Yes, I agree. 100% I’m actually very, very passionate of meeting people locally. And you know, I love reaching out to the organisers and connecting with people. Because when you Yeah, when you see it face to face, like there’s nothing to shove off. You’re not looking at their house, you’re not looking at their amazing social media pictures or not looking at the fake stuff. You’re looking at a human being that is a smart person that is there with you, and he’s open to chat with you. Right. So yeah, everybody that is listening, you know, connecting at the in person is such a different feeling. And, you know, I wish I discovered this earlier. too, because instead of be looking up to other people on social media, I would just rather go out and meet people, that’s for sure.
David Ralph [30:06]
Let’s talk about your crazy 18 hour drive on a solo adventure road trip. What? What, what started that? What made you jump into a car and drive across America, whatever, all on your own, stopping at the Golden bridge meditating. What led you to that? Because it’s not usual behaviour.
Christian Arriola [30:26]
Yes. And this is actually the result of my depression that I was talking to you earlier, it got to the point that I was so unhappy that every single day I was I felt devastated. Right. And of course, it was already affecting my relationship with everybody. You know, of course, I didn’t have friends around, because most friends, you know, back then the first few months of this year, I didn’t have, I only had like one or two friends who were entrepreneurs and understood the way I was thinking. But rather than that everybody was kind of ignoring me. Of course, with my parents was a little tough to you know, I wasn’t happy, I didn’t want to talk to anybody, because I felt lost. And it got to the point that I even with my fiance started to, you know, things started to get rough. Because I, you know, I felt I felt something we are right. I mean, I didn’t want to talk to people, I felt miserable, I was completely unhappy. So it was one day that I was we went for a coffee, my fiancee and I and we were talking and I told her, you know, what, there’s, there’s this idea that is popping for the last few days and, and is what if I drop everything and you know, you take over the business and I just jump in the car, and I leave, because I really need time off for for from everything and from everybody, you know, completely shut off of everything, just like you did for the for your daughter’s wedding. I mean, go offline, go of the Raider, and go back to find myself and find my purpose. And so I got a you know, she she completely agreed and, and she knew I wasn’t going to pull it off, like right away. So she got my phone and she actually book a rental car as soon as I finished a sentence. And as soon as she got it like, Oh, I’m leaving tomorrow. So do you
David Ralph [32:13]
want to get rid of Yes, that’s the man she could have your misery guts, she wanted that miserable face out of her sight for a while.
Christian Arriola [32:22]
I think I think she was really tired of me, man.
So you know, like, so short. So I got into car. And it’s like, okay, we’re Where we going? Well, let’s just, let’s just hit the road. And, you know, I’ve been to California many, many times to LA San Diego and all the the cities, you know, the most common cities, but I’ve never been to San Francisco. And so I wanted the adventure to be something completely different of me stepping out of my comfort zone at 1,000% doing things that I’ve never done before and that I don’t like doing. So it was to drive that long. That was the first one. The second one was okay, I’ve never been to San Francisco. And I know it’s a very modern and and you know, a lot more advanced that, especially here in El Paso. So that’s how I ended up in San Francisco. And while I was there, this is and this is a funny story too. Like I was googling, you know, meditation centres in San Francisco, like, you know, the retreat or something where I could, could take some time off to just think. And I ended up in this in this. It was it was called a meditation centre. But I thought it was gonna be like a yoga retreat. Right? I thought it was gonna be some, you know, some time off and just silence and listening. So I was looking for that. And when I googled it, I found a centre, that it ended up being a modern Buddhist temple. And when I got there, I was just like, Oh, my God, I think I came to the wrong place. But generally, I, you know, I started thinking is like, well, I’m here because I wanted to try things different. So if for so for whatever reason, I found this centre, going, oh, let’s just go in and have the class and and see what happens. So long story short, the monks were amazing. They I almost feel like they were expecting me. I mean, it’s crazy to say it, but I almost feel like they were. And they were for some reason they connected with me. And they were talking. They were not talking to everybody. But they were talking to me for like half an hour, try to figure out what was going on with me. And you know, Why was I so devastated and so miserable. And why was the depression that was going on? And all they could say was that, you know, I’ve been working on my mindset for quite some time, but it was still not enough. And that’s what I told her. And they told me that my depression came from losing the connection between my mindset and my emotions. So it’s like, Wow, so now that I look back is like I’m so happy
David Ralph [34:50]
that I went to San Francisco, right. So because that’s kind of blew my mind went in two different directions. So you disconnected between your mindset and your motivations and well what are emotions? What What, what does that mean?
Christian Arriola [35:04]
Yes. So basically what I was thinking I was in feeling it. So this is this is the easiest, she could have explained it to me, of course, there’s probably a scientific way to, to say it. But, you know, we’re talking about how we read a lot and we try to learn from from, you know, self development and self improvement. And we try to dominate our mindset. And we try to tell our mindset that it’s possible instead of fearing, but we always forget about the emotions man and, and the emotion sees that route to our, you know, our mood, like if you feel happy, or if you feel unhappy, if you’re angry, or you’re not angry, everything comes from your emotions. So I had that disconnection that what I was feeling wasn’t really inspiring my emotions at all. So it was crazy when she told to me because it makes sense.
David Ralph [35:56]
Right? So So what you’re saying in summary was your gut feeling that excitement wasn’t pointing in the right direction. And so now what you’re doing, you’re basing your whole life on what your guts telling you your second brain, as I say, there’s as many connections in your brain as there is in your stomach. And that is where your future lies. Are you excited? Are you focused? Are you energised? If you are, that’s good. If you’re feeling stressed, if you’re feeling unstable, then that’s not good. You don’t go in that direction. Would that be it?
Christian Arriola [36:27]
Yes, that’s exactly right. I think you are better explaining it that Me?
David Ralph [36:32]
Me, go me, I think I’m going to start my own Buddhist temple. Do you know that? Yes, yes. I’m going to shave my head, I’m going to get fat and sit there cross legged all day waiting for people to turn up. So Christian, so with your life now? Where is the belief then? So you went from that stage of going, I didn’t believe in myself as a younger person. You’re now having amazing conversations with people you are finding yourself. You’re understanding what makes Christian happy. So where is your belief on a scale of nought to 10? What would you say?
Christian Arriola [37:05]
Well, now is like 100
David Ralph [37:06]
men? Oh, no, now it’s not you just say that. That’s that’s fake news. as your President, your president says, No one has 100. You might you might be all like that at the moment, cuz you’re having this conversation. But then tomorrow morning, you wait in bed, and it’s totally different. So between naught and 10,
Christian Arriola [37:25]
between? I would I would say nine, to be honest with you. Yeah. And here’s why. Because I don’t think you can achieve the 10. Well, I mean, it’s not impossible, right? There’s probably the people that could, but it’s hard to go from the nine to the 10. You
David Ralph [37:43]
hundred a moment ago, Christian?
Christian Arriola [37:46]
Well, I’m just being real with you keeping it real, right? No filter?
David Ralph [37:50]
No. Just go with it. Give us it?
Christian Arriola [37:52]
Yeah. So like I said, You know, I would probably say at nine. And here’s why. Because even even when you’re doing what you love, like you still need to keep working on yourself. And I still read an STL. You know, I keep it going. And, you know, it’s it’s just so much that you got to learn before you can hit the 10. But the difference is now I have the passion, and I have the emotions totally connected with what I’m doing. And I’m loving what I’m doing when and I enjoyed every second of it. And that makes a difference, man, like it makes it so easier. There’s no need for me to look for inspiration, because I’m already inspired from inside. So that would be a nine for me. And isn’t that a 10? Just because I think it’s an ongoing thing. Like I got to continue working on my mindset and gonna continue working on on inspiring others to because that’s a great feeling when you are able to inspire and change people’s course and mentality. That’s amazing. That’s a really good, I don’t think there’s a price for that. It’s totally priceless.
David Ralph [38:53]
I’m between eight and three, when I’m doing what I’m doing now is an eight because I think totally in the zone. And then when I think about what I want to do going forward and what other streams are coming in, and a lot of it in the entrepreneur vibe, you kind of get this idea of Wouldn’t it be good if I could do this, but I ain’t got a clue how to do it, you know, then I dipped down to three. And then the doubts come in. And then I managed to work my way up to about eight. So I would say I’m about eight to three. So you’re a genius Christian to remain at a plateau of eight every single day. I salute you, sir.
Christian Arriola [39:26]
Thank you, man. But like I said, You know, I already shared my journey. So it’s definitely not something that started this morning and took me many, many years to figure it out.
David Ralph [39:37]
But let’s play some words now from a man who really spoke about going on the journey and trusting just trusting yourself with intuition and faith periods. Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [39:47]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward. You can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [40:22]
Does that kind of summarise your life at the moment? Christian?
Christian Arriola [40:25]
It does. It totally does. I mean, I I about for what he saying, you know, Steve Jobs was an amazing person and a very inspirational but he you know, that’s totally right. I mean, when you’re going through it, you don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. But once you’re on the other side of the fence, and you look back, it’s like, oh, my God, okay, I did, I did. Okay, you know, I’m glad I did what I did.
David Ralph [40:50]
And when you look back over your whole life, I genuinely ask these questions. I’m gonna ask it to you. Is there a big dark moment? When you look back? And you think, yeah, that’s really when things started to go, you know, it showed me that direction.
Christian Arriola [41:05]
I would say, it’s, it’s looking back when I was about to get ready to leave college. And I kept hearing, you know, you’re gonna go get a job and, you know, climb the corporate ladder. But my gut feeling was telling me differently. They were, you know, something inside was telling me No, no, no, you gotta, you gotta find a business and go only and then oh, this is the time to shine. And of course, they follow what everybody was saying. So that was probably the root of all evil, that I had my mind saying one thing and my gut feeling saying the other one. And I wish I just should listen to my gut.
David Ralph [41:45]
I had a conversation with an ex colleague, I don’t see you very much. But we sort of connect on Facebook every now and again. And he said to me, Oh, I remember having a conversation with you about three years ago. And I gave you great advice. And he was adamant to go the opposite way. And look at you now, you know, well done, you didn’t take my advice. And I said to him, basically, I don’t take anyone’s advice. Because that’s always the advice that’s right for them what they think they would do. And we all know the advice that’s right for us. But we have to sit and we have to be quiet. And even if we’re wrong. As long as we go with our own advice. We’re not normally a million miles away from where we should have been, it was kind of vaguely in the direction. And then you can just pivot and sort of go again, it’s much easier to just allow your own thoughts to show the way, isn’t it?
Christian Arriola [42:35]
Oh, yeah, absolutely. And you know, when he told you and would you answer was was exactly right on point. And it comes back to what I told you earlier to like, everybody wants different things. So why would Why are you listening to advice? or Why are you admiring other people that want different things? If If that’s not your case, right? I mean, follow your gut and stay in your lane and focus on what you’re doing, because you want different things. So that’s my advice to everybody. And the lesson that I that I learned that it took me quite some time to learn to.
David Ralph [43:06]
Yeah, I agree with that totally. And that’s why in Join Up Dots, you very rarely hear me say anything really specific. It’s all in general terms. So but you go away, and you kind of think about it, and then let your own version of what we’ve been discussing come to the fore. That’s the way I think that the future is made. Well, we have been leading activist Park Christian, and this is the part that all our shows lead to, and we call it the Sermon on the mic when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Christian, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m going to play the theme. And when it fades you up. This is the Sermon on the mind
Unknown Speaker [43:54]
of the show.
Christian Arriola [44:08]
All right. So I’m excited for this moment. So really appreciate it, David, and this is this this message goes out to the Christian that was in high school that had and I’m going to try not to be sentimental here because, you know, this is this is a conversation that I’ve had with myself before. But you know, I really want to tell him that you know, everybody is giving you advice, but the only person that really knows what, what they want and what they want to achieve in life is you. So just go with your gut feeling and and completely block out negativity from other people and completely block out the the ideas of other people that are not inspiring you to to be a better person and to go after what you really want. Back in high school. I know you had such great entrepreneurial ideas that other people actually took action because they were not afraid. And I was, and looking back in time, you know, you know, fear is, it’s not real, it’s something in your in your head. So whatever you have to do to overcome it, either read or go to conferences, or talk to maybe look for a mentor or a coach, but try to overcome the fear and try to believe in yourself. Because you’re you, you need to be an entrepreneur, because that’s what you were born for, you know, you’re gonna go to college, and you’re going to graduate, and you’re going to go climb the corporate ladder, but you’re gonna be miserable, they’re gonna feel trapped in a cage. So, you know, just just go with your gut feeling, believe in yourself, don’t fear of everything, and don’t overthink it, you know, take massive action and just go, go build whatever idea you have, because that’s truly what you came here for, to help other people to solve problems, and to inspire others. That, you know, now I’m telling my story. But you know, I’m 27 years old, I could have been telling this story when I was back 16 because that that entrepreneurial fire was lined up back then. And thanks to, you know, listening to everybody if they turn it off. But, you know, to my past Christian, my 16 year old Christian, you know, just go with your gut feeling and trust and believe in yourself. Right advice, and great
David Ralph [46:29]
advice for everyone. So Christian, what’s the number one best way for our audience who’ve been listening to you today can connect with you?
Christian Arriola [46:36]
Absolutely. I mean, I’m very active on social media, so anybody can look me up. And they can also look up for the hustle show on on iTunes and the podcast. And I actually want to give some, something free for your audience to David. And you know, they can go to the hustle show that co slash mindset. And I’m going to share with them the five secrets that have been helping me through this journey, to dock to, to control my mindset and to be able to shift it. And once you do that, you really find yourself in a different place, man, and I know you, I know, you know, this too. So it’s amazing what you can do.
David Ralph [47:14]
That’s great stuff. So we will make it as easy as possible for you to all connect with Christian by going over to the show notes, all the links will be there. But of course, just Google the house will show and he will be at the forefront of what you see. Christian, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again, when you’ve got more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our pasts is the best way to build our futures. Christian, thank you so much.
Christian Arriola [47:42]
Thank you so much, David. It was a blast. I had a really great time connecting with you. And I hope we are able to inspire somebody out there to do whatever and just go with your gut feeling. Thanks so much.
David Ralph [47:56]
Christian Arriola doing what he does on a daily basis, basically not going for the money by showing the old hustle He is the founder, as we said on the hustle show, so go over there to iTunes and give it a good listen or Google for him. And you will see somebody about is laying it out. As he says, you know, it’s there’s a lot of rubbish out there. And there’s a lot of glamorous rubbish, which the people are hiding behind. And it’s real, some it winds me up, it does wind me up, because I have now had the ability to see so many people and for many of them get a chance to see behind the curtain. And it’s it’s not real. And that’s why I’m very honest on Join Up Dots about my own entrepreneurial journey, showing the highlights and the lowlights and the moments of clarity as we grow this show to where it’s going to go. But you are a big part of it, you are more than a big part of it. You’re the most important person on this show. All of our listeners. So thank you so much for listening. Let us know how you get on with anything drop us emails, Join Up email@example.com or the simplest ways just connect with us on Facebook at Join Up Dots. And we post all the shows in there. And I can also answer any questions that you direct in there as well. Thank you so much for listening to Join Up Dots and we will see you again soon. Cheers. See,
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