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Introducing Dr Phil Carson
Dr Phil Carson is my guest today, on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots free podcast interview.
He is a man who has been through a journey of discovery to get him to where he is today.
Happy, relaxed and rocking and rolling
After two decades of running a successful pharmacy practice and then losing it all, he entered a period of deep personal struggle.
Each night he would walk along a country road hoping to find a few minutes of peace, but he ultimately discovered something far more valuable.
What could you do if you had a simple plan to increase energy, get in better shape, and improve your mental and emotional health?
You have more pressure on you than ever.
With competing demand from work, family, friends, and our communities, it’s no wonder so many people are stressed, overweight, unhealthy, and exhausted.
He felt the pressure, too.
How The Dots Joined Up For Dr Phil
He sacrificed his mental, physical, and emotional health to the demand of his pharmacy practice.
Until he discovered the medications he was paid to dispense often offered only temporary symptom relief and left people still suffering.
He discovered that true health and happiness comes from finding balance in seven key areas, so he developed a simple plan anyone can use.
In his new book, How to Live Until You Die, he makes it simpler than ever to unlock a healthier, happier, and more whole you, so today can mark a new beginning for your total health!
So does everyone need to go through a dark night of the soul to become truly focused on what life is all about?
And where does he see that people go wrong in their life, trying to do too much, or not actually trying to do anything?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Dr. Phil Carson.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Dr. Phil Carson such as:
Dr Phil shares how he lost his business due to the downturn in the economy 2008, and the steps he took to get his life back on track.
We discuss how the moto “Failure is not the economy of success, quitting is” and how it should be learnt the world over.
Dr Phil shares the big but easy steps we can all take in our lives to feel better and healthy (without heading to the drugs)
We find the secret ingredient that everyone should live by in their lives…..and best of all we have it in our lives already.
Books By Dr Phil Carson
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Audio Transcription Of Dr Phil Carson Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, and welcome to, of course, join up dots from the United Kingdom coming across the world. Thank you very much to all the people that really left ratings and reviews just recently, thank you very much for Australia. We’re doing really well in Australia now. So thank you very much. Hopefully, I’ll be coming down there soon to see a lot of you. But of course, we’ve got a show to record. And today’s guest is a man who has got quite a fascinating story. And he’s probably one of the most relaxed laid back individuals i think i’ve ever spoken to already. He is a man who’s been through a journey of discovery to get him to where he is today happy, relaxed and rocking and rolling. Now after two decades of running a successful pharmacy practice, and then losing it all, he entered a period of deep personal struggle each night, he would walk along a country road hoping to find a few minutes of peace, but he ultimately discovered something far more valuable. What could you do if you had a simple plan to increase energy, getting better shape and improve your mental and emotional health, you have more pressure on you than ever with competing demand from work family, friends and our communities. It’s no wonder so many people are stressed overweight, unhealthy and exhausted, he felt the pressure to so he sacrificed his mental physical and emotional health to the demand of his pharmacy practice. Until he discovered the medications he was paid to dispense often offered only temporary symptom relief, and left people still suffering. He discovered that true health and happiness come from finding balance in seven key areas. So he developed a simple plan anyone can use now in his new book, how to live until you die. He makes it simpler than ever to unlock a healthier, happier and more whole you so today can mark a new beginning your total health go you listeners, this is going to be amazing. So does everyone need to go through a dark night of the soul to become truly focused on what life is all about? And where does he see people where people come along, trying to do too much or not actually trying to do anything at all when it’s find out as we bring on to the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Dr. Phil Carson. How are you sir?
Dr Phil Carson [2:33]
Hey, good morning, David. I am doing awesome today. And I hope you are as well.
David Ralph [2:38]
I think I am doing awesome. Because you are somebody I don’t know what it’s about you but your voice just makes me want to smile. You just sound so relaxed. I just imagine you sitting on a on a horse somewhere just riding into town with not a care in the world.
Dr Phil Carson [2:52]
Oh, yeah. Well, I wish that was true about me, but I got all kinds of cares right now what I’ve learned how to handle those cares pretty well.
David Ralph [3:04]
Can you ride a horse as well? Oh, yes,
Dr Phil Carson [3:06]
absolutely love riding horses. That’s been a long time since I’ve been on the back of a horse. But I I grew up riding horses.
David Ralph [3:13]
Yeah, you sound like it, you’ve got that kind of voice. And you can tell from my voice. I don’t think I’ve ever been on a horse in my life. Thank God, I’ve got a feeling I’ve sat on a donkey once but a horse no go at all. But you are somebody that has been through a journey. You’ve had the ups and downs, you’ve had the sideways the front ways, and you’ve come to a place? Is it experience? Is it maturity? Or have you just got to a point where you think I know a lot of the answers.
Dr Phil Carson [3:40]
Yeah, well, it’s it’s combination of experience and maturity. I’m almost 58 years old. And I’ve lived a lot of experiences in my life, a lot that I wished I hadn’t have lived. And I’ve learned a lot of great lessons. And so I’ve applied a lot of those lessons to my life over the past few years. And it’s it’s made a big difference. And so I’m living much healthier and happier at 58 years old, and then I’ve lived in a long time.
David Ralph [4:14]
So so you really feel like you’re you on your game. Now this is you know, you’re you’re moving into your sort of early 60s, but you are fighting fit and mentally ready for anything?
Dr Phil Carson [4:25]
Oh, yes, absolutely.
David Ralph [4:27]
Because I’m 48 years old, I just turned 48 years old. And I’m getting aches and pains that I never had before. And I say to people in your 20s brilliant 30s. Nothing could tell hit 40. And suddenly aches and pains is it is a state of mind. Am I doing something wrong? Dr. Phil?
Dr Phil Carson [4:44]
It’s not necessarily a state of mind. I know some some people it may be. But yeah, is as we age, of course, our bodies begin to break down. And so we have to be proactive. And that’s what I teach people all the time, that that you need to be proactive, you need to be investing in your health, you know, when we invest in all kinds of things in our life, and people invest in, in their retirement, so to speak, and putting money aside, and then saving and all those kind of things getting ready for retirement, but they don’t invest in themselves like they should they don’t invest in their help. And I say quite often, you know, people get to that age of retirement. And I’ve seen this happen in my practice of pharmacy over the years, people coming in to the pharmacies that I owned previously, that had just retired, you know, they finally made it to that point in their life where Hey, I can retire and I can relax in their employer help their own a half a dozen different medications, their health is failing. Because they haven’t invested in their in their health. They haven’t taken care of that, that. And, you know, I say this all the time people get to that point in their life. And they’re looking around and saying, you know what, what the hell has happened to my wealth, because they big that wealth that they’ve accumulated begins to deteriorate the biggest to go away because they’re spending so much money on their health now, because they didn’t take care of themselves. They weren’t proactive and investing in their, in their help. So I encourage people to do that all the time. Because I’ve seen it happen to people too many times, people retire. And they think, well, I’m gonna live the easy life. Now I’m going to take take it easy. And a year, two years later, they’re gone. Because they didn’t do what was necessary to take care of themselves. living up to that point,
David Ralph [6:42]
what a cheerful statement that is, and then that, that that two years and boom. So what we’re saying to all the listeners out there is while you’re young, try to have many retirements, try to enjoy yourself, not just kind of thing. I get it all done when I’m 65 Why not get it done when you’re young and youthful by creating a side hustle a different business or just mentally focusing on a different way than the hurry scary of life. Yep.
Dr Phil Carson [7:10]
That’s it. And, you know, we got a plan for every aspect of our lives as we look to the future. And so many people neglect the health part of it. And, and I encourage people not to do that. And that’s, you know, that’s why I’m in my own life right now, David, I’m, like I said, I’m almost 58 years old, but I work out four days a week, weight weight training four days a week, I do other exercises a couple, two or three days a week, at least six days a week, I am doing some type of physical exercise. And so many people don’t do that. And it’s so important that we do if we want to have a more vibrant, resilient, healthy life as we age, one of the best things you can do is to do your some type of physical fitness program and stay consistent with it. And that’s what I teach in my book, have liberty that whatever you enjoy doing, physically do it and do it consistently. And it it pays off. Like I said, it’s an investment, it’s an investment worth making. If you want to enjoy your life more as you age, and you know, I’m able to do things now that a lot of 58 year old cannot do and and that that makes me happy gives me happiness gives me joy, to be able to do those kind of things.
David Ralph [8:38]
But what was that so uh, you know, was there a dark side to Dr. Phil? Because as you’re talking now it sounds like you know, you’re living a healthy fitness fanatical life, which is great, because you know, you we need to keep the the movement in our limbs. But Wilson with Dr. Phil that would be found in the bars across America chasing the lady not looking after himself.
Dr Phil Carson [9:02]
Oh, yeah, yeah, there were some times in my life where I definitely didn’t look after myself. And it was not too long ago. And it was a time in my life that I write about it. In my book, where I was in a deep dark valley. And was not taking care of myself, like I should or was not taking care of my finances like I should. I was overwhelmed with, with running a couple of businesses. And I was neglecting a lot of those things. And you know, neglecting my help was one of them. And not just my physical health, but my mental health, my spiritual health, all those things were being neglected. And, and I don’t
David Ralph [9:48]
have time Dr. Phil jumping in it. That’s his plan in it every now and again to sort of, you know, abuse your body and just go a bit crazy. It’s, it’s fun, you might regret it afterwards. But do we need those times? Do we need those times to go to hell for it? That’s, that’s going over a wild weekend and then deal with the consequences afterwards?
Dr Phil Carson [10:09]
Yeah, well, I don’t know. I don’t know that we need that we need those times. But we do experience those times. Sometimes it wakes us up and say, Hey, I can’t keep doing this, I’ve got to change, I gotta do something, I got to do something different. And sometimes we’re, you know, we’re forced to do something different. We have a crisis in our life, that forces us to do something different. A lot of times people don’t change until they are forced to change. And I’ve seen that in my profession. Over the years, many, many times, people with health issues, that they don’t change until they have a crisis until they end up in the hospital, they you end up with a severe diagnosis, then, hey, it’s time to change now. But, you know, I think, you know, those experiences don’t have to happen. We need to, like I was talking about a minute ago, be more proactive, and prevent those kind of things from happening in our lives. We don’t have to experience those things. And I will.
David Ralph [11:18]
But now, you know, I think it makes a life. And I know it’s bad and but I would hate it if everything I was focused on stopping by it just be a bit boring. All the time. I was thinking, now I won’t do that. Because I’m not gonna feel good The next day, and I’m not gonna do that. I just think that as you say, how to live until you die. You need to live, don’t he? Natalie, if you need to be stupid, you need to be young. You need to be youthful. You need to sleep with people that you shouldn’t you you need to do those kind of things. So you get to a point and you go, I haven’t missed out on anything yet. And I would hate any of my family, my kids, I would much rather have them have a you know, roller coaster life, but get to a point where I go, I’ve experienced what I want to experience more of and protecting themselves all the way along the line. Oh, yeah.
Dr Phil Carson [12:08]
Yeah, life is a roller coaster. And you know that, that roller coaster ride is his life and having those various experiences, you know, can do so many things for us build character in our lives. Teach us things. Give us the you know, the experiences. And yeah, I’m all about adventure and experiencing as many things as I can
David Ralph [12:32]
do it. Dr. Phil, I’m gonna fly over and meet you in Vegas. Come on. Let’s do it. We could have we could have drugs. We could have strippers week we could go mental for a weekend. you up for it?
Unknown Speaker [12:45]
No, that wouldn’t work for me.
David Ralph [12:49]
Not right now. It worked for me. My wife would stop it. She won’t know she won’t. She won’t hear this. This is just between you and me. Dr. l, we could do this via
Dr Phil Carson [12:57]
Yeah, my wife would will not hear that either. So that’s I wouldn’t get to come home. If I did something crazy like that. Oh, just
David Ralph [13:04]
stop them from listening to podcasts. And we’re safe. No, no one will. No one will spill the dirt on that. So if we take you back, you’ve got two decades of running a successful pharmacy practice. And they knew last day Oh, yeah. I would find it sitting here. I would find it a struggle to imagine why a pharmacy practice wouldn’t continue flourishing because people are always on the lookout for medicine, surely?
Dr Phil Carson [13:28]
Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, I can. I can tell you all kinds of reasons. For that we could talk for a long, long time about that. But there were several reasons why I’m, you know, my operation failed. I had two successful pharmacies. And it was a time in our economy several years ago, when everything kind of crashed 2008 2009. You know, if you remember, back then I don’t know, if you’re part of the world, it was bad as it was here. But in the US, you know, things kind of crashed back in 2008 2009. And I became, you know, part of that I was a casualty of that downturn in the economy. One of the things that I had depended on my business was a government contract that I had with a local clinic operation that was government funded. And I was a supplier for that operation. And everything kind of just all of a sudden went away. And I was not able to survive. And that and I wasn’t just doing, you know, wasn’t just selling medications, either. I had already moved out into a whole nother realm of natural medicine. And I was doing all kinds of things in the world of natural medicine actually trying to pull away from traditional medicine at that time. And I had opened up a pharmacy, one of my pharmacy operations opened up was more of a natural pharmacy, health food store in the front of the store, compounding pharmacy, in the back, I was doing some innovative things, especially for the area where I live in the deep south. And there was not any other kind of operation like mine. And people told me, hey, you’re, you’re ahead of your time, you’re not going you’re not going to succeed with this. Because you know, people, people just don’t know about it right now. And you’re a little bit ahead of your time. And I said, No, I’m not I’m this is this is going to work. And you know, they were right. I was a little bit ahead of ahead of my time, and it just didn’t succeed. So there were multiple reasons why. Now,
David Ralph [15:48]
when it’s going pear shaped, as we say, in the United Kingdom, do you work harder and harder to save it? Or do you get to a point where you think there’s nothing I can do and Ben, just relax, because I’m generally found in my life, I’m at my most stressed when I think I can do something about it. And once it gets to that point, I think I can’t do anything about this. I just sort of relax and just allow things to happen. Yeah,
Dr Phil Carson [16:11]
yeah. Well, yeah, you’re, you’re right, I was doing everything I could, to try to save those businesses. And, you know, do some stupid things, to try to save them. Like, you know, putting my taking the equity out of my house and putting in an end up losing, you know, like, say, they end up losing it, losing it all. And it’s kind of funny, you were talking about horses a minute ago, because my wife said several times, at the end, you know, when we had to shut the doors and close everything down. She said, you’re riding a dead horse, and it’s time to get off. And yeah, that’s, that’s an old Southern expression here, you know, not wanting to give up. And I didn’t, I was on that dead horse. But I didn’t want to give off on one. I kept thinking I could make that horse come alive again. But it wasn’t working. In
David Ralph [17:04]
hindsight, would you have jumped off early? Oh, yes,
Dr Phil Carson [17:06]
absolutely, I would have would have jumped off earlier. But I had, you know, several employees that I felt like I was responsible for, and I had to take care of them. And I just thought, Hey, I can make this thing work somehow know that we can make it work. But things just kept getting worse and worse with the economy. Business kept going away. And it just it didn’t happen.
David Ralph [17:34]
And when you look back on that, obviously, it’s a terrible time. But we always talk about this on join up dots, was their learnings was Was that good? In that moment? When you look back on it? Did you? Are you a better person for it?
Dr Phil Carson [17:48]
Oh, absolutely. You know, I tell people all the time, David, that, you know, I would hate for anybody to go through all the struggles that I went through with losing everything, because this is not a I never built that would happen to me. I’ve seen it happen to other people didn’t, I didn’t think it would ever happen to me, I had been successful, I had, you know, grown to successful operations. And I said, this, you know, just simply would happen. And so I look back now and I tell people, you know, I’m, even though it was unfortunate it was and I struggled mentally, emotionally, physically, through all of that. It was worth it. Because of all learn. And because of the things that it forced me to do. And it pushed me out of my comfort zone pushed me into a whole nother area of learning about things that I didn’t even know existed out there in the world. And so it put me on a whole nother path that, you know, put me in a position to where I could do greater things than I ever dreamed of doing. When I had those two operations.
David Ralph [19:02]
Well, let’s play some words now. And then we’re gonna move it into a more positive frame. He’s Rocky, you,
Unknown Speaker [19:08]
me, and nobody is going to hit as hard as life. But ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward, how much you can take
Unknown Speaker [19:19]
a keep moving forward.
David Ralph [19:21]
That’s how when it is done. Now, I had a guy on the show just before you Dr. Phil. And he said, basically, you don’t look for a way out, you just look for a way through. And he said with all his problems, he doesn’t run away from them. He doesn’t look for an exit. He just stares him in the face and then finds a way through exactly like rocky says you’re gonna get some punches in the face. But it’s about getting up and going again. What are you surprised actually, from where you were to where you are now, but actually, the human spirit can take that much of a pounding and still come back? Oh, yeah.
Dr Phil Carson [19:57]
Yeah, absolutely. You know, I had a friend of mine say, you know, one time, failure is not the enemy of success. Quitting is. And, you know, so many people, when they have a failure like I did, they want to quit, and just give up and say, This is the I can’t do you know, I’m done. But, you know, I encourage people all the time, you know, revival fails, we have failed failures in our life. But we can’t quit, we gotta pick it up and keep going. And keep fighting, like rocky was talking about there, and you gotta keep getting back up, you may get knocked down. But you can’t stay down. You got to get back up. And don’t let failure destroy you. And so many people do that. And, but that’s not me. You know, I’m not a quitter. And I encourage other people not to be as well, when it comes to, you know, business. You know, help, whatever. Don’t be a quitter, keep fighting, keep plugging, get back up, and and go at it again.
David Ralph [21:13]
Now, there’s gonna be some listeners out there that are going hang on five minutes ago, he was talking about Dead Horses and riding it too much. Is that is that this not the same as quitting? Are we saying that? Is it sensible to get out of a situation but then move forward? don’t personally quit even though the horse is dead?
Dr Phil Carson [21:34]
Exactly. Right. Exactly. Right. You don’t personally quit you, you look for other opportunities. You know, and that’s the, you know, that’s thing sometimes failure provides great opportunities, better opportunities, and and, and that’s what happened with me getting off of that dead horse. And, and moving on, provided me with even greater opportunities that I would have had if I had have stayed there. And that business that I had,
David Ralph [22:09]
and you truly believe that now you can see that your life is bigger, bolder, brighter because of it.
Dr Phil Carson [22:15]
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I’m in a place in my life now and have, have met people and make connections over the past few years. With people I would have never dreamed of making connections with in, you know, didn’t even know that kind of things that these people are doing, like I said, even existed out there in the world.
David Ralph [22:43]
That is a key thing to join up dots as well through movies episodes. When I started, I used to literally every episode go, really, you’re doing fact, you’re making money out of fat. And I was so ingrained in corporate land, I couldn’t see you bet there was opportunities everywhere. You just have to look at taking the opportunity and making into a solution for somebody who will buy. But um, it’s a kind of, I don’t know, it’s a mindset. It’s a gear change. I don’t know what it is. But once you suddenly realize, but hang on. I’m not surprised anymore. I’m not surprised that you’re doing this. What seems like a stupid thing, but making millions at it. When you see the world in a different way, don’t you?
Dr Phil Carson [23:29]
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I met a guy a few months ago, that it’s kind of funny that you say that you said that. Because I met a guy he must go His name is Richie Norton. And he wrote a book called The power of doing something stupid. And you know, and in the book is The all these stories about people who did these things that other people thought were stupid, they were crazy that you can’t that won’t work. And and they they were extremely successful at these so called stupid things and made millions doing stupid things that what other people thought was stupid.
David Ralph [24:12]
I imagine if you look back on everything, there’s there’s an element of witchcraft and stupidity, isn’t it? Everyone looks at things and being like, that can’t be possible, how you doing that even something like you know, that we take for granted now like Facebook, for example. The fact that they learn a way to connect people so quickly. And so personally. At that time, that must have been something where people were going really I know, it was, it was a what it was. So there was other things going on at that time, but you go five years before, but that wouldn’t have even been a fault. And 10 years before that. So wherever you know, at the moment, are you looking because you’re 58? As you say, fit as a fiddle? Are you looking for more sexy opportunities? Are you looking for more you love doing? How do you decide what’s right for you every day? Dr. Phil?
Dr Phil Carson [25:05]
Yeah, well, what I’m doing right now is, is looking for more opportunities to reach more people with the message that I have about life, about living life really living until you that and so many people are not doing that they’re just existing, they’re just getting by. But I want people to realize how you can really enjoy life, you can live really live. And, and, and do it naturally. And that’s something that, you know, 20 years ago, when I started moving toward the natural realm of medicine, as opposed to the traditional realm that I was taught. And that was practicing for years. People thought I was stupid, I was doing something stupid. I got chastised a lot by colleagues, for, you know, doing all these natural things and teaching and starting to preach, hey, you don’t need this medication. Why don’t you try this natural product. And, and now I’m known as the natural health guru, so to speak, in our in our area. And I teach people how they can live healthier, have a more healthy, vibrant, resilient life, and do it naturally. And that’s what I enjoy doing. So I love doing is teaching people those things. And so I have people that are seeking me out now on a regular basis, that are looking for that alternative that are looking for a non drug, an alternative to their health issues.
David Ralph [26:47]
Right. Okay, so so with the health issues, is it, you know, to do all these health issues come along because of life? Because we’re on such a fast pace, because people are trying to juggle careers, the juggling kids that trying to get there for dance lessons, and then flying back to something else? Is it not just a simple case of if you slow down and recharge yourself a lot, the issues will go?
Dr Phil Carson [27:12]
Exactly. Yeah, it’s lifestyle. You know, most all health issues that people were dealing with today are preventable. It’s a lifestyle. And that’s what I teach people is lifestyle change, what I call a holistic health architect. And so I help people design Healthy Living plans for themselves, on an individual basis, a personal basis for that particular individual, sit down with them and go over what they’re dealing with in their life and help them develop and plan ways to turn that around, and start living proactively and start changing those issues dealing with on a day to day basis. And to do it naturally without drugs. You know, one of our mottos is that you don’t need another drug. There’s so many natural things out there that a person can do that. We don’t need the drugs. But we’ve been trained we’ve been you we hear it all the time we see these commercials on TV constantly, you know about all these drugs, all these medications, and the drug industry is pushing, pushing, pushing medications on people. And a lot of people think, well, I can take a drug for that. If I get this, if I get this problem, I’ll take a drug for it. Well, I’m teaching people and looking for people that don’t want to go down that route. They’re looking for that natural alternative. They don’t want a drug, they don’t want the side effects that go along with the drug. And so that’s, that’s my joy. That’s the that’s what gets me up in the morning, is the reward of helping somebody in that regard, helping somebody find that answer, find that natural solution, or find the solution period, a lot of people that come to me, they’ve been searching for years for help for their health problem. And they haven’t been able to find it because nobody is addressing the underlying cause. And so that’s one of the things that I do as well as help people find that underlying cause, and then develop a plan around correcting whatever that causes. Do you know what radiating that calls?
David Ralph [29:28]
Yeah. Do you know what I’ve done recently, Dr. Phil is this and this is gonna be really, I’ve discovered asleep. I was a great one, but sort of just sitting there watching rubbish on TV sort of late at night, just flicking around YouTube videos, you know, not doing anything worthwhile, just sort of killing time. And now, if I feel like it, I’ll go, I’ll go off to bed at eight o’clock at night. You know, before the kids go to bed. There’s still kids running around outside ice cream band still going around, and I I’m just going off to bed. And I’m finding bizarrely bad, I feel better for the sleep. And my wife says to me, how did you sleep I went well, I slept till I woke up. And I just die. And then I wake up and I’m ready to go again. But for years, I kind of felt that sleep was something bad. You know, wimps did? Do you know what I mean? Where you know, it was about doing early mornings and late nights. And the amount of work I was doing was a badge of honor. But now I kind of, you know, yesterday afternoon, I had a little nap in the afternoon and then that be us. And it was lovely.
Dr Phil Carson [30:36]
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that’s, that’s good. You bring that up. That’s, that’s something that I have dealt with myself. Over the years. I’ve always had an aversion to sleep, I don’t want to sleep. I’ve said many times, I wish I didn’t have to sleep, there’s too many things I want to do I want to enjoy life is so many experiences, and I don’t want to sleep. And I would have to make myself go to bed I would set up for you know, two or three o’clock in the morning sometimes, you know, doing whatever. And I had to make myself go to bed. And I still struggle with that song. But over the past few years, recent years, I’ve gotten a lot better at it. And I try to have a set bedtime. Try to have a set time but I wake up every day. And and that’s important. But yes, you’re exactly right. Getting that sleep is key to a healthy life. It’s one of the keys in the seven keys in my book, I have a whole chapter on sleep in my book, and I talk about exactly what you’re just talking about is so many people would you know where that as a badge of honor, hey, I don’t I don’t need the three hours of sleep around either four hours of sleep. But we’ve got to have more than that our bodies do have to rest and have to regenerate. And our brain is regenerate. At night in were designed to get that sleep. And we must we must have it if we want to continue to live a strong, healthy life as we age. And it’s extremely important. So thanks for bringing that up. That’s awesome. You’re welcome. You’re
David Ralph [32:08]
welcome. So So would it be one of the sort of easiest steps when you’re sitting down with somebody and you’re saying like, this is what you want to do? And this is how you should do? A lot of people imagine would say, Well, I can’t do that. Dr. Phil, I’ve got to be at the office at seven o’clock in the morning. And I’ve got to be better. And there’s always got to be got to be, but can they just kind of knock an hour sitting there with a glass of wine and watching rubbish TV? Would that be one of the first steps that you say?
Dr Phil Carson [32:36]
Yeah, yeah, that’s that. That’s it exactly, you gotta start making those lifestyle changes, you know, suddenly, you know, that’s what have you, you don’t have to drastically change everything at one time, work your way into it. And when you do that, you’re you can be more successful in creating a change that last. And so and that’s what some people will just dive into something and it won’t last. So as they work your way into it. And so yeah, sleep is is a big thing with people to that I work with. So many people come to me looking for help, because they can’t sleep. Because of all the stress in their life that they’ve been doing or they’ve experienced, has disrupted their normal sleep cycle. But that sleep cycle can be restored. It’s not that a lot of most people are not like me, they just don’t want to sleep. They, they want to do they want to do a lot of things in life. not sleep. Most people want to sleep, but they can’t. They’re have they’re struggling with sleep. So that’s one of the things that I help people with a lot. And, you know, this, something I love seeing is a person come to me, and they’re getting very little sleep or they’re not sleeping well at all. And we put them on one of our sleep protocols, take them through the process, and to see their life change to see their, their glow about them a month later. Because they’re sleeping again. And they’re, they’re happy and they’re feeling great. And that’s there’s so many people out there, unfortunately that struggle with sleep, but they don’t have to. There’s help. And a lot of times they’re looking forward in the wrong place. They go get a drug, they get a sleep aid, that knocks them out and they wake up feeling like they got a hangover in the morning. And and that’s what a lot of people tell me they don’t like that feeling. What can I do something different? I want to be able to sleep but I don’t want that hangover.
David Ralph [34:44]
Oh, you come in here. Listen, as you come over to me and, and he said we’re sleep together. That’s not a good thing. And I will teach you, I will teach you how to sleep. It’s just a clear mind. And don’t look at any computer screens an hour beforehand. I’m a I’m a great believer in that just letting that sort of just read a book or something that we used to do in the old days. So okay, there’s there’s seven key things in your book, and I’m aware, but we haven’t got you for hours. So what would be the next Biggie but people could implement quite easily that’s not going to be a big stretch on their lifestyle rearrangement.
Dr Phil Carson [35:20]
Oh, I’m glad you asked that question. Because this is the one thing that always ask everybody that I’m counseling is how much water do you drink? And the number one answer I get from them is probably not enough. People don’t drink water. They’re drinking everything. But water. I was just drinking.
David Ralph [35:47]
I drink. I drink five liters a day. Is that enough? Is that too much?
Dr Phil Carson [35:52]
Though you’re doing great. You can’t get too much. The ideal amount is half of your body weight. ounces a day course, you’ll hear us we were using ounces. But that’s what’s recommended. Generally as half your body weight in ounces a day, for example, you weigh 200 pounds, you need 100 ounces of water a day where people don’t drink water. They drink everything else. But water. People are drinking sodas, they’re drinking alcohol. They’re drinking sports drinks. Whatever. I had a lady come up to me at a after a speaking event A few months ago. And she was telling me about all her health issues and all this kind of stuff and how she was struggling with the astronaut. And I asked her I said well tell me how much water you’re drinking every day. I don’t drink water. I said what do you drink? She said, Well, I want to get up in the morning. I have a scotch and then later on today I have some gin and then I have a beer and I have some Why
David Ralph [37:01]
is my wife talking to my wife?
Dr Phil Carson [37:05]
I said no. I was thinking I didn’t say this about myself. No wonder you’re sick. You’re not drinking any water. You’re drinking nothing but alcohol. And so you know a lot of people are like that they drink everything but water. But that’s one of the simplest easiest things a person can do to make a difference in their health. A lot of times it’s just start drinking water
Unknown Speaker [37:27]
Unknown Speaker [37:29]
they shut them out.
David Ralph [37:29]
Yeah, when I started drinking water, I found that maybe for the first week or so. I was running for away all the time. It was it was quite difficult. And then I found that it wasn’t it wasn’t and I wonder where the waters gone to be honest. Because you know, I’ve got the bladder control of a camel at the hydrated camel. And yeah, I can drink water after water. Water doesn’t go anywhere. So where does it go? Dr. Carson?
Dr Phil Carson [37:57]
Well, you’ve got it, you can drink a lot, a lot of water and you don’t have to go to the bathroom a lot. You got a good stretch bladder, I would say that’s not me. I’m going all day long all the time. Now.
David Ralph [38:14]
I tell you, it’s it’s like one of those spice hoppers, you know, that the kids used to bounce around. I never have to go it’s a it’s a podcasters delight to be honest, because I can drink five gallons of water and, and just sit here all day. So So that seems easy to me people sleep, and then drink a lot of water. But of course, when you drink a lot of water, you have to get up and go in your little little jobs to the toilet during the night. Is that sort of right? Knock one on the head to be honest, because, you know, my my wife always says now I don’t want to drink too much water because I’m going to have to be up through the night.
Dr Phil Carson [38:51]
Yeah, well, I tell people don’t drink as much get most of your water consumption throughout the day. You know, cut way back at night, during very little at night. And then that lessens your trips to the bathroom. But yeah, that’s, that’s what you want to do get it all during the day as much as you can during the day,
David Ralph [39:11]
we’ll put plastic sheet in down on your page. And they mean you don’t care Do you just just say so. Okay, so let’s go with the third one. I’m really interested in this now. So we’ve done sleep, we’ve done drinking lots of water seems easy to me. What’s what’s the next one that I can start bringing into their life?
Dr Phil Carson [39:30]
Yeah, well, one of the big things that I deal with people work with people on is supplements. And, you know, because of our poor eating habits and poor diets, unfortunately, we need supplements, because of the types of foods that most people eat, have no nutrients, their new, their void of nutrients, even certain fruits and vegetables that you buy in the grocery store. Today, they’ve been processed, they’ve been grown on these big farming operations picked to green. And there, they get very little nutrients. So unfortunately, we have to take supplements, and so many people are taking supplements today. But they’re taking junk. I tell people all the time they bring me their supplements, and I look at them and I say you know what, you’d be better off picking a handful of rocks up off the ground and swallowing a rock every day, then taking what you’re taking. Because it’s loaded with all kinds of artificial dyes, chemicals, artificial sweeteners, it’s, it’s it’s actually toxic. And people don’t realize that. So I love teaching people the difference between a good supplement and a bad supplement. And what I encourage people to do, what I do myself is try to take as much of your supplements if you’re taking supplements, try to get ones that or food source. Because most of what’s sold out there and the big box stores and pharmacies are not food source. They’re chemicals. They’re chemically derived so called nutrients that are loaded up with all kinds of toxins. So a good natural food source and new supplement is what you want, especially when it comes to a multivitamin. So that’s difficult
David Ralph [41:21]
in America though, in that because I’ve traveled around America and basically my arteries firm up on the plane over there. Soon as you land Yeah, just like greasy food adverts is food everywhere it and this the biggest plates of food you’ve ever seen in your life, I generally ask you a kids plate when I’m out there. So it that’s quite difficult, isn’t it to find all your nutrients when a lot of the classic I suppose American diet is about greeting and frying and all that kind of stuff and barbecues.
Dr Phil Carson [41:56]
Exactly, especially where I live here in, in the deep south in the southern part of the United States. You know, that’s, that’s what most everybody eats the BBQ the fried stuff. And finding good, healthy, clean food choices is hard. I’d have I’ve traveled a lot to all across the United States. And I’m excited when I get to a place where there’s more good clean, healthy raw foods to choose from, and restaurants that serve those kind of foods. Unfortunately, where I live, there’s very few of those who have very, very few choices and you have to eat Outlast, eat home more prepare your own your own foods. But yeah, it is difficult. And unfortunately, David that’s why I say we need supplements because people are not getting, you know, the good foods that they should be eating. But that’s one of the things that I teach to teach people how to eat a better cleaner, more balance diet on a day to day basis to try to get as much as those nutrients they can from the food they and stop eating so much of the junk food, the fried foods, all those that you just mentioned.
David Ralph [43:14]
Dr Phil Carson [43:16]
it’s difficult. What are you know about grits? It’s disgusting.
David Ralph [43:20]
I’ve had grits. That’s the most, most disgusting thing I’ve ever tasted in my life.
Dr Phil Carson [43:26]
You didn’t they weren’t prepared correctly. If they tasted disgusting, do it correctly, cook and prepare grits are really a really good. They’re not so good for you. But, but they do taste pretty doggone good if they’re if they’re done correctly.
David Ralph [43:43]
Now one of the things that we say over here in our families, a healthy diet is eating the rainbow. So if you’ve got a plate full of colors, so you got some greens and red and you’ve got this and that is an easy way for people to do it as well, just not being focused on how much is in stuff just looking at it and go is that a colorful plate?
Dr Phil Carson [44:08]
Exactly, exactly. Yes. And I teach people that as well try to eat as much of the colorful foods, the raw foods as you as you possibly can. Yeah, we’re reading too much cooked foods. And when you cook most foods, specially vegetables, you cook the nutrients out. If there are any in there in the first place, you’re cooking them out and destroying the enzymes, destroying the vitamins, the phytochemicals, all those things found in raw foods, destroying them a lot of times with cooking or overcooking. And so yeah, raw foods as much as possible, you know, makes a tremendous difference.
David Ralph [44:52]
In just a moment ago. I heard you drinking was that scotch or water? I just want to see what
Dr Phil Carson [44:59]
yeah, it was good. Good water. It was good
David Ralph [45:02]
water. Okay, right. So you’re you’re you’re preaching what you’re actually living, which is all well and good. Right. Okay. So just before we send you back on the Sermon on the mic to give your younger self some advice, what what is your favorite out of all the seven? What is the favorite, we haven’t touched them all. But what is your own personal one that you say, Yeah, I will not go a day without doing it.
Dr Phil Carson [45:26]
I would say at this point in my life, probably my favorite is going to be the exercise part, the physical fitness, and keeping my body strong and healthy. So that as I do continue to age, as I said a moment ago, I can continue to do things I can get out and play soccer with my kids. With my grandkids, I’ve got a grandchild at 19 month old granddaughter got another granddaughter on the way. And I want to be able to get out on the soccer feel in and play with them. As I have done with all of my kids. Growing up, I’ve got five children that range from age 13, to 18. And all of them played soccer. And I was able to coach all of them, I was able to get out in the field and play with all of them. And I want to be able to continue to do that. Even into my 80s 90s or wherever how long I get to live. And I tell people all the time, it’s not all about the quantity so much it is it is the quality of life, we may get the experience life and be here on this earth for 80 years, 90 years, 100 years. But whatever number of years I get, I get to live to be 100. I want to know that I did. And I want to experience it to the fullest.
David Ralph [46:50]
I want to be 100 years old in Vegas living my fantasy with us. That’s what I want to do now. That’s the benchmark of where I’m heading.
Dr Phil Carson [47:01]
All right, let’s do it.
David Ralph [47:02]
Thanks to me. So you have converted you. You say you forgot you were married. You just saw the thrill of the weekend.
Unknown Speaker [47:09]
David Ralph [47:11]
Yes, I relax. Yes, overnight, you’re just go along with anything. Right? Okay. Well, hopefully you are on with this, because this is the bit of the show that we call the Sermon on the mic, when we’re going to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Dr. Phil, what age would you choose? And what advice would you give him? Well, let’s find out because I’m going to play the theme. And when it fades you up, this is a be sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [47:40]
We go with the best bit of the show.
Unknown Speaker [48:00]
Dr Phil Carson [48:02]
What I would tell the younger feel, and I’m speaking to the younger fail now is that you need to lighten up and quit trying to do everything on your own. You’re not Superman, you need to allow other people to come into your life and help you do things. I know you’re an independent person, and you were raised that way. And you were raised to be independent to think that, hey, if it’s going to be done, right, I’ve got to do it. But you need to learn to delegate, you need to learn to teach people how to do things that you maybe you’re not so good at, that they may be can even do better than you and allow them to do it and quit trying to do everything on your own and think that you’ve got to be responsible for it. You know what, you’re a micro manager, that’s what you are, you’re micromanaging, and you need to let go, you need to let go and let people do what they can do. And you do what you’re best at and quit trying to do everything. Then if you will do that, you’ll have a whole lot less stress in your life, because you’re dealing with a lot of major stress. And it’s because you’re trying to be Superman, you’re trying to do it all you’re trying to be everything to everybody. And you can’t do that. You’ve got to allow people to come alongside you and help you. If you do that. I promise you, you’ll be more successful. And you’ll be able to accomplish more than you can then you’re accomplishing now, by allowing other people to help you with things that you are trying to do. yourself. You need to delegate, there’s something I know that’s hard for you to do. But for you to lessen the stress in your life. It takes some of the pressure off. That’s what you’ve got to do. You’ve got to delegate and quit trying to be Superman. And the success will come a lot easier to you. If you will do that. I promise you. So do it.
David Ralph [50:26]
Do it. It will fail. Do it. You know your big Dr. Phil has told you so you take take it take his advice. So what’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you? Dr. Phil,
Dr Phil Carson [50:36]
number one best way is my website. Carson natural calm. And I’ve got everything that I do on that website, my podcasts, my Facebook Live, my blogs, free resources, how to connect with me, everything’s there, Carson, natural calm.
David Ralph [50:58]
We will have all the links on the show notes. Dr. Phil, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again when you’ve got more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Dr. Phil, thank you so much.
Dr Phil Carson [51:15]
Thank you, David, I really appreciate it and an honor to be with you today.
David Ralph [51:21]
fail, he was so relaxed when he was so relaxed. He doesn’t need any chemical announcements or toys. He’s living life on his own terms. So yeah, we didn’t do the whole seven. But I think we gave a flavor. So you’ve got to basically get lost sleep. You’ve got to eat healthy, you’ve got to drink more. I thought we all know this, don’t we really we all know there’s a better way of looking after yourself. And I’m I am a great believer in looking after yourself. But occasionally having a blow out because blow out a family and although you regret them afterwards more often, but not in a financially prohibitive to do all the time. It’s good. It’s good and in moderation. Get the balance right. Well, thank you so much for listening. As always, to have this show. If there’s any guests out there that you would like on join up dots. Just send us a Facebook message and say we think you should have this person on the show and we’ll see if we can sort it. But until that time, you know, just be next time because I’m going to be here. Look after yourself. Cheers. See.
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