Heather Dominick Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Heather Dominick
Heather Dominick is our guest today, on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots free podcast interview.
She is the founder and leader of the Highly Sensitive Entrepreneur® movement.
Her teachings demonstrate how highly sensitive traits when used as Strengths, rather than Shadows, can create effective entrepreneurial financial success.
Her deep wisdom reaches over 100,000 Highly Sensitive Entrepreneurs around the globe via her website www.businessmiracles.com and various social media channels.
An exceptional facilitator and teacher, Heather is known for creating a safe, sacred community for true transformation whether she is teaching a Business Miracles® Class, delivering training online or in-person or mentoring her Business Miracles Members in her various Mentoring Programs.
She has helped thousands of HSE®s release lifelong limiting beliefs, overcome fears and learn how to build their business in a way that actually feels so good they can’t help but create solid, sustainable, high level financial success.
How The Dots Joined Up For Heather
Now that sounds uber impressive, as if this person was born to be an entrepreneur rocking it online today…but that is not the case.
Back in the late 90’s and early 20’s your would have found her teaching drama instead at the New York department for Education.
Her path was heading her in a totally different direction
So when did she decide that business, and teaching entrepreneur around the world how to achieve Business Miracles?
And is she glad that she became a teacher first, or instead would she have prefered to jump straight into her life today?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Heather Dominick
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Heather Dominick such as:
Heather shares her belief that none of us should do everything ourselves in a business if we truly want to scale a business. Be willing to outsource as soon as possible.
We discuss why the world makes us work from nine to five based around the eight hour day
Heather talks about why people have to see themselves differently to gain the true success.
Heather shares the two primary coping characteristics – The Pusher or the Hider. If you arent sure what these are then you will have to listen
How To Connect With Heather Dominick
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Full Transcription Of Heather Dominick Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello, good morning, good morning, or good afternoon or good evening, whatever time you’re listening to Join Up Dots wherever you are across the world. Thank you for being here. Yep. This is another episode of the motivational conversational show. When literally, I press my button, I start recording, and I have no idea what’s going to come out at the other end and it kind of gives it its own flow. Well, today’s guest is somebody who’s going to certainly give it his own flow because I’ve never had a founder and leader of highly sensitive entrepreneurs movements. Now, you might wonder what that is hsve but we’re going to be discussing that on today’s show. Now her teachings demonstrate how highly sensitive traits when used as strengths rather than shadows can create effective entrepreneurial financial success. Now her deep wisdom reaches over 100,000 highly sensitive entrepreneurs around the globe, via her website, business miracles.com And various social media channels. She is an exceptional facilitator and Teacher Yes, she is. She is known for creating a safe sacred community for true transformation. Wherever she is teaching a business miracles class delivering training online, or in person or mentoring her business miracle members. In her various mentoring programmes. She’s helped 1000s of HS ease, release lifelong limiting beliefs, overcome fears and learn how to build their businesses in a way that actually feel so good, so good, but they can’t help but create solid, sustainable, high level financial success. Now that sounds Uber impressive as if this person was born to be an entrepreneur, rocking it online today, but it’s not the case back in the late 90s and early 20s, you would have found her teaching drama instead, at the New York Department of Education, her path was heading in a totally different direction. So when did she decide that business and teaching entrepreneurs around the world how to achieve business miracles was her thing. And she glad that she became a teacher first or instead what she preferred to jump straight into her life today? Well, let’s find out as we bring them to the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Heather Dominick. Good morning. How are you?
Heather Dominick [2:32]
Good morning. I’m great. And so happy to be here with you.
David Ralph [2:37]
Well, I’m happy to have you. In fact, I’m happy to have anyone really particularly you because you are somebody that spreads miracles around like confetti, am I going to be a different person? By the end of this conversation?
Heather Dominick [2:51]
I’m gonna guess yes. You can’t guess yes, you
David Ralph [2:54]
should say yes, you are with conviction, you’re gonna spread a miracle in my direction,
Heather Dominick [3:00]
then yes, yes, you are, David,
David Ralph [3:03]
there we go. That’s what I want. I want I want a little bit of this special touch. So how do we do this? Let’s get straight to the chase. However, how do you change me? How can I have a miracle in my life that can only come from spending some quality time with you?
Heather Dominick [3:18]
Well, I will share with you the definition of a miracle according to the psychological and spiritual teaching of A Course in Miracles, which I personally have been a student of for over 30 years. And that definition is that a miracle is a shift in perception. So it’s not something that happens to you. It’s something that comes through you. It’s about your willingness to see things differently.
David Ralph [3:52]
Right? I’m a little bit confused. Now, I’m not going to ask your age because it is rude. It is rude to ask a lady’s age. I can say that I was on Skype a moment ago. And it said that you’re you were 22. But you’ve been studying miracles for 30 years. I’m confused. Is it just that I’m an English simpleton? Or is there some kind of magic going on that can make you change age a will?
Heather Dominick [4:16]
I have no idea how that number got on Skype? So I’m going to have my team look into that. But I am so far from 22. And I’m happy to share my age. I’m 46
David Ralph [4:30]
Oh, well, almost the same name. We’re almost the same. I was delighted because because I looked at that. And I thought to myself, how could this be possible? How could this lady have achieved so much at the age of 22 when at the age of 22. I didn’t know what the hell I wanted to do. So were you the same because I’m 47 myself
Heather Dominick [4:50]
at the age of 22. I had trouble deciding whether I wanted to have a cup of tea or a cup of coffee. So I had have no clue.
David Ralph [5:01]
And so what I like about you, I’ve said two things to you really one before we connected and now, and both of them, you’ve said, I will get my team to do it is that part of your business strategy building a team around you? Do you not want to press buttons on Skype and change things, you can get somebody to do it for you?
Heather Dominick [5:21]
Well, rather than it being about getting someone to do it, for me, part of being highly sensitive, and an entrepreneur is really being willing to recognise that you can’t do it all all by yourself, because that will contribute to one of the primary HSC shadows, which is overwhelmed. So I have recovered from being a person who believed that I had to do it all by myself and drove myself into nearly a nervous breakdown, to now being a person who is happily willing to have a team and expect them to support the mission of a course in business miracles,
David Ralph [6:11]
right? Okay, y’all, I’m going to throw the hard question at you. Because what we do on Join Up Dots, we don’t make it easy for you. But at the beginning, at the beginning, doesn’t everyone do it? Because they do everything for themselves? Because they’re frightened of spending money. It’s all right, once you’ve started getting money in and you can go, yeah, build a team around you. But at the beginning, bootstrapping time, it’s all or nothing in it, we do it all ourselves.
Heather Dominick [6:37]
That is a good point. And what I’ll emphasise about that is that when you’re just starting out, there’s less to manage, really. So when I was just starting out, it was even back in the day before social media, if anyone can even believe that that existed or was even possible. So not only was I setting everything up myself, but because I had come from the classroom, I knew nothing about computers. And I even taught myself HTML, to be able to launch my first website. But then as you build, if you’re interested in going in the direction of being able to serve more people, then there’s more to manage. And that’s a great time to be willing to bring on a team.
David Ralph [7:25]
So when when is the time then for somebody out there? Who’s doing everything themselves? When is the time because I must admit I do everything myself, my Join Up Dots platform is totally under my control, all my coaching, but I have systems in place. That means that I don’t really need anyone, or am I being narrow minded? And should should I be long sighted on this and see a better way of doing it? These systems only take me so far, however,
Heather Dominick [7:52]
you used a great phrase, which is I don’t need so that’s what it’s really about the moment that you’re really starting to feel frazzled, on done, or again, overwhelmed. And especially if you happen to be a person who’s highly sensitive, who’s also trying to be self employed, then that’s the time to really check in and be honest with yourself, look around, see that everything isn’t working smoothly? And then consider where’s the first place that you can hand over some tasks?
David Ralph [8:28]
And so what was your first hand tasking over? Can you say that tasking handover? I don’t know how you say, when you give a task away,
Heather Dominick [8:36]
I make up words all the time. So you can say whatever you want. And I’ll share that the first task that I handed over really had to do with the technology because that’s not my area of expertise, even though I was willing, as I said, to teach myself HTML and my first couple of years of being self employed. So I really handed over everything that had to do with the website. That was my first support team.
David Ralph [9:05]
And could you ever go back to that time? Could you create a new company and do it all yourself? Are you go now, there’s Netflix to watch. There’s, there’s alcohol to drink at nine o’clock in the morning. I’m a different person. Now.
Heather Dominick [9:18]
I love Netflix, drinking at nine o’clock in the morning would probably have me asleep for the rest of the day. However, if there’s something that I’m absolutely passionate about, yes, I would absolutely do it all over again.
David Ralph [9:34]
Well, okay, so let’s talk about your business. That’s why we’ve got you on here business miracles for the highly sensitive entrepreneur. When did this actually start? Was it fully realised? Or was there ugly versions beforehand? Did you have an ugly baby but you’ve grown into something beautiful, however,
Heather Dominick [9:52]
well, I’m not going to say ugly but I will say different so I’ve been self employed for four 14 years. And my first business was as a nutrition and wellness coach. And through really teaching myself everything that I needed to know about sales, about marketing, because I literally knew nothing, I was really able to build that business up to a full private practice within nine months. And then I really hit a wall. And I realised that I was making about the same money that I had made as a New York City public high school teacher, which I will say to you is not very much. And I had to really look at things. And it was at that time that I really started merging my spiritual practice with my business practices. And then things started to pick up again, and then other health practitioners who are attempting to be self employed, wanting to know what I was doing to be able to be in business full time. So I started sharing the spiritual marketing practices that I was using. And then from there, the next evolution came with another, but absolutely much darker time in my business about seven years ago. And at that time, from that dark night of the soul, I realised that I was highly sensitive. And that birthed this whole new next level and wave that I’ve been delivering, developing and mentoring other highly sensitive entrepreneurs in regards to how to create financial success as a person who’s highly sensitive and self employed. And I’ve been doing that for about the last seven years. So not ugly, but not easy.
David Ralph [12:04]
You’re like a classic Mom, aren’t you, but they won’t say anything bad about any of their kids. Every kid has got talents, everything’s got strengths. So it’s, it’s different. It’s not ugly. So I’m proud of you, however, You protected your early offspring. So where is it now? Because when I came across, I came across thinking, Oh, this is just sort of normal business coach kind of stuff. But as I delved into it, I thought, no, hang on, I’ve really got to look at this. There’s there’s so much more to it. Is it more about the well being of an entrepreneur? Or is it more about the business side?
Heather Dominick [12:38]
Excellent question. And it’s really both. So what I like to say is that my mentoring is an inner and outer approach. And you really need both of them to be able to create financial success. And again, especially as a person who’s highly sensitive,
David Ralph [12:56]
that comes first, both chicken and egg time, is it that the outside exterior affects the inside? Or do they work hand in hand? Because I kind of lead in question time. I kind of think it’s the outside that affects my inner but other people say the opposite.
Heather Dominick [13:13]
Another great question. And what I’ll say is that it really depends on the individual. So through my work and research, I’ve really come to discover that, particularly for people who are highly sensitive entrepreneurs, there’s two types of primary coping mechanisms. You are either what I refer to as a pusher, or you are a hider. So the pusher is going to push through, to match themselves to be able to do and create what someone who’s not highly sensitive can do and create. But it’s going to come at a very high cost in absolute over exhaustion, or perhaps even health difficulties or some other type of destructive collapse. And I am definitely a recovering pusher. So if you’re a pusher, then it starts from the outside, and then you have to go in. If you’re a hider then what you’ll do is you’ll find every possible reason to avoid what you absolutely need to be doing in your business, you will be taking care of everyone else, including the neighbor’s goldfish, before you’re actually taking the business actions that you need to take. And so for the hider they really need to start with outside actions.
David Ralph [14:44]
Now I’m definitely a recovering pusher. And I’ve been really, really open over the last few months of Join Up Dots. How I went through burnout twice, but I didn’t have enough knowledge about what burnout was to realise it was burnout. I just thought I was Is being a bit bit of a big girl’s blouse, as we say, in the United Kingdom and just getting a bit sort of unstable for some reason. So I’m definitely a pusher. So I should be doing it in a totally different way, can you blend the pushing and the hiding? Is that the optimum way of doing it?
Heather Dominick [15:16]
That is an awesome question again. And the blending of pushing and hiding is what I refer to as the combo platter. And you do not want the combo platter. Ideally, you don’t want to be in any coping mechanism. Instead, you want to really be operating at an ultimate balanced place for yourself, whatever that might be, again, different for each individual. So you don’t want to be a pusher, you don’t want to be a hider. And you don’t want to be a combo platter. But what’s important is to identify which coping mechanism you lean towards, as it sounds like you did for yourself. And then you can start to take the steps to be able to step out of the coping mechanism and into a really more productive way of operating within your business and your life.
David Ralph [16:13]
Right, I’m gonna go in a different direction now, because I’ve asked three fantastic questions. You’ve told me and I’m feeling the pressure. I don’t think I can go for four. I don’t think this is too much for my brain. So let’s take it away from business miracles and more about the actual structure of everything. So your team, you have you got like a web guy, a marketing guy? How have you found the right people that you trust enough to allow them to look after your business when you’re not around?
Heather Dominick [16:44]
Yes, well, first of all, they’re all gals. No guy, guys. And I would say that we have found each other on my part through trial and error. And I’ll definitely fess up that it’s an area that I’m for sure, still mastering. But I will say that anyone who’s on my coach team is absolutely someone who has gone through one or more cycles of a business miracles mentoring programme with me and is still committed to the mentoring process. And then anyone who’s on my core team, who is someone who works more on the back end, there’s someone who is willing to really be able to empathise with what it means to be a highly sensitive entrepreneur, even if they are not one themselves.
David Ralph [17:42]
Right. So how old are do you pay these people? Because I have a lot of people coming to me, and they want to build teams. And they don’t know how they should structure it, should they structure it with just pure referrals. So a referral comes through to their business from yours and vein that they will do work for you, on behalf of is a monthly commission, how do you actually structure it so that the team stay with you, but you’re still the kind of figurehead of the business?
Heather Dominick [18:11]
Right? Well, it definitely differs depending on where you are in the world. Although, you know, our you know, systems of operating are becoming more and more similar. But here in the US, we have what’s called virtual assistants. And that has been very popular for about the last 10 years. And that’s a way for the person who is the virtual assistant to operate within their own business. And for you to be able to receive assistance support, but by paying more through like a consultant or a tenant, what’s referred to in the US as a 1099. And that’s a great way to start. Because that means that you can receive support starting at a really low minimum of hours per month. And you don’t have to take that big step into having a part time or full time employee. So if that’s something that’s available, wherever it is that you know, you might be listening in from today, that’s again, a really great way to start it helps you to balance your cash flow. And it also helps you to balance just more of the emotional and energetic responsibility of what it means to have a team.
David Ralph [19:36]
Now a lot of people they feel that they’ve got to have these people on permanent retainer, but you can do it just when the task is via Can’t you. So when the work is coming in, you then pay them to do it but when it’s not coming in, they don’t operate on your behalf. It’s not like an a corporate salary that so many people are ingrained in. Absolutely exactly right. Oh, I’ll tell you what, I’m good at this. It’s like I almost know what I’m talking about. Well, let’s play some words now from somebody who really does know what she’s talking about. She said these a few years ago, let’s hear him again, Oprah Winfrey
Oprah Winfrey [20:10]
way through the challenge is to get still and ask yourself, what is the next right move? not think about, oh, I got all of this stuff. What is the next right move, and then from that space, make the next right move, and the next right move, and not to be overwhelmed by it. Because you know, your life is bigger than that one moment, you know, you’re not defined by what somebody says, is a failure for you. Because failure is just there to point you in a different direction.
David Ralph [20:40]
So I imagine based on what we’ve been talking about, however, a lot of your work kind of groups itself around that teaching your students but they don’t have to do everything they’ve just got to do the next right thing would I be right?
Heather Dominick [20:55]
Absolutely. And what that really speaks to is that as highly sensitive entrepreneurs, one of our strengths is that we’re very visionary. So HSPs can really see the big picture. And where they tend to fall into difficulty is then how to back out of that big picture, and just be able to look at the next doable step. But really being able to just take doable step by doable step is absolutely the key path to financial financial success as a person who’s highly sensitive.
David Ralph [21:34]
So so looking at your life at the moment, we’ve already worked out that you like a bit of Netflix, and you don’t like to drink at nine o’clock in the morning, which is probably a good thing. So how is your day based? I’m really fascinated with people that create a business that literally vacant decide when they want to do it or not, when they could wake up feeling a bit off today, I’m going to sit under a duvet and just watch TV, and against the ones that have things scheduled all the time. So almost have to book out time off. Where Where do you sit,
Heather Dominick [22:09]
I was just thinking about that before our conversation today and feeling really grateful that I have arranged my life that allows for flexibility. So one of the teachings that I share with the HS ease in my mentoring programmes, is what I refer to as time off, time on and time in. And those three areas of time when you can allow yourself to begin to look at time through those three lenses really provides you with a combination of that structure that most of us need in order to be able to be productive, that also contains flexibility. So just real quick time off is when you are completely disconnected from your business, you’re reading your most favourite novel, you’re getting a massage, you’re taking a walk, you’re going on vacation to the beach, and time on is when you are working on the business. That’s when you are creating marketing. It’s when you are implementing marketing, it’s when you’re creating new programmes, new offers new products, it’s your real obviously creative time and time in is when you are serving in your business. So that’s when you’re having sales conversations, you’re meeting with your clients or any other form that that might take for your particular business. And I’ve really found that again, when you can look through those three lenses. It provides you that really beautiful and miraculous combination of the structure and the flexibility.
David Ralph [24:03]
Now I spend more time in time off then time in and time whatever other one was, tell my time off as well. I focus in most of all, but I’m very strategic, but I don’t allow anyone to dictate my time, I tried to do everything, which means that I can provide the support for my clients at two o’clock in the morning if I wanted to or at 10 o’clock I do a lot of recording videos and and content. People can now literally have their cake and eat it can’t know that that’s one of the things that is really evident with the explosion of the internet that you can control your time in a way that you couldn’t just couldn’t do before.
Heather Dominick [24:46]
For sure. And I would say that the key is really understanding how you work best. So it sounds to me like you’ve really identified like your circadian rhythm is that you’re very creative and the you know wee hours of the night. And that might not be the case for someone else. But the minute you’re able to really identify how you work best, and when you work best, then you can adjust and create the structure that serves you to be able to be the most creative in the most productive, and the most effective and efficient way possible. And again, it looks different for everyone. And you’re absolutely right, we’re so fortunate to be living in this time, where we can really blend that, excuse me, we can bend that flexibility. So boy,
David Ralph [25:35]
easy to have a van with all of us working, you know, we’ve got night owls, we’ve got logs, I’m definitely a lot, I can get up at any time in the morning, and I’m firing on all cylinders. But by the time I sit down to watch anything with my family, I’m just catching flies in my mouth, I can’t keep my eyes open in the evening. But in corporate land, 9258204 Everything is based around those hours, it’s just lunacy, isn’t it that people are forced to work at times when it’s just not good for their own personal body growth.
Heather Dominick [26:05]
It’s absolute lunacy. And it’s also archaic. It’s really in my opinion, the in the actual research around this would be fascinating came to mind as I was listening to you. But I imagine that it’s really just leftover, right from a time when people were only able to be productive when the sun was up. And obviously, we’ve moved far beyond that. But you know, there’s parts of just the collective behaviour and pattern that can’t let go of what has been in place for an extremely long time.
David Ralph [26:38]
I remember reading The Four Hour Workweek from Tim Ferriss, and I really must read it again, because I hadn’t read it for years, it might be a bit old hat now, but at the time, it really hit home. And one of the things he said is, why is everything based around a sort of eight hour day? Why you know, my job, I could do it in two hours. But I’d go to a corporate job, and I’d be expected to stay there for eight hours. Why is it all based around those beggars and it’s not based around, I want you to do this job. Okay, you’ve done it, you can go home, go and live, live and make love on a beach and do what you want. It is I just don’t understand it. And it’s people like us breaking that down. When you stand up on stages, you’re letting people see a different way. And it’s not the nine to five, it’s not the eight hour slog. It’s the due to task when it needs to be done. And scale it to the biggest degree you can
Heather Dominick [27:31]
absolutely one of the things that was most frustrating to me when I was in the public school system was the amount of wasted time and especially with faculty meetings, I felt like I wanted to just absolutely pull my hair and my fingernails out, because it was just so unproductive. And what was taking hours and hours, I knew could be done in literally minutes. And in a way that would be much more motivating and exciting for everyone involved. And that was really why I left the public school teaching system. I loved my work and I loved my students. It was the system that drove me absolutely crazy. So it’s really such a luxury. Unfortunately, that’s the case still, because like you said, so many people are still slogging away in that corporate structure. But it’s such a luxury to be able to be creative and productive in a way that is much more suited to who I am personally, but also is much more effective and efficient than the majority of you know, corporations, companies and organisations are operating.
David Ralph [28:41]
And when you was the drama school teacher did you were legwarmers was was it like fame, that’s what I want. I want you to be banging it down making them sweat and going for the pain.
Heather Dominick [28:54]
Well, I probably haven’t worn like farmers since 1982. But I did love the movie Fame when I was growing up. So I will be happy to just be that fantasy for you.
David Ralph [29:08]
You can be any fantasy you want. I’m willing to go wherever you take me however, I’m at that age when fantasies come rarely, Ms. Miracles come even more rarely. So that’s why it’s so great to have you on the show. So where did the name business miracles come from? Because it kind of I look at it and it opens questions is that the reason for it?
Heather Dominick [29:31]
It really came from again my you know, immense and longtime study of A Course in Miracles. And again, that definition from the course of what a miracle is, which is a shift in perception. And when I really came to understand that I was highly sensitive. It was literally like light bulbs went off and so many ways. But one of the ways was oh wow, in order for a person who’s highly sensitive to be successful as a person who’s self employed, they have to be willing to see things differently, they have to be willing to see themselves differently, not as a person who is less than but as a person who has these kind of secret sensitive superpowers, they need to be willing to look at marketing and selling differently, because the way that it’s traditionally taught for those who are not highly sensitive, is not going to work. And they need to be willing to look at their business differently, and approach it in a different way than someone who’s not highly sensitive. So that’s really the dovetail of where the work from A Course in Miracles combined with what highly sensitive need really, you know, sparked into a course in business miracles.
David Ralph [30:55]
So So what do you really mean by that, they got to see things differently, they’ve got to see their business differently?
Heather Dominick [31:02]
Well, I think you can take selling as a great example. So everything that I learned about selling from traditional trainers who are not highly sensitive, was really all about, you know, pressure, and to be able to close the sale in one call, and really very fear based. And anything that comes from that type of energy, that direction is really not going to work for a person who’s highly sensitive. So I’ve designed a selling process that really matches the strengths of those of us who are highly sensitive. When I first designed the process, I didn’t know I was highly sensitive, I was just designing it for something that worked better for myself. And then I’ve just been teaching it for so many years and seeing so much success. For those who are highly sensitive and use the selling system. It just, you know, I’ve just have evidence after evidence of how this works so much better than again, that more traditional approach, because
David Ralph [32:11]
I personally think if you know, your branding, and that the customer knows what you’re there to deliver. And you over deliver value time and time again, that selling just naturally occurs, I make more of my sales for my courses, just by people connecting with me and saying to me, you know, do you do coaching? Did you do anything else? And I go, Oh, well, I do, actually, yeah, I’ve got one coming up shortly. And they just sign up, I rarely actually have to do any hard sell at all. Because I’m congruent with the message that I’m putting out every single day, I would
Heather Dominick [32:46]
say that absolutely is the essence, whether you’re highly sensitive or not. However, for those of us who are highly sensitive, first of all, most of us are not taught how to manage being highly sensitive. And also, let me just throw in here at this point that that’s not a term that I made up, but it’s really founded on in depth research by a psychologist named Dr. Elaine Aaron, and her work started in the early 90s. And so there are certain qualities and characteristics for those of us who are highly sensitive. And from Dr. Aaron’s work, 20% of us in the world are born into the world highly sensitive, it’s not something that your parents did to you, you didn’t pick it up on the playground, it’s not because of that purple drink that you had when you were at a college party. It’s just who you are. And when you haven’t been taught how to manage it, there’s what I have come to identify as H S E shadows. And you really need to be able to learn how to work with those shadows and shift them into strengths. And that’s where what how you describe selling doesn’t happen really just so smoothly and easily for most who are highly sensitive, because their shadows flare up and get in the way. So you have to learn again, how to manage those so that you can be in a position of strength, and that’s where my selling success system comes in.
David Ralph [34:17]
I’m still slightly confused what a highly sensitive entrepreneur is really, is it just somebody that really pleased to their strengths, or is it somebody that I don’t know? I’m a bit confused. Explain it to me in shamans terms, because I’m not very intelligent.
Heather Dominick [34:34]
Yes. Happy to do so. So again, being highly sensitive is a term that was developed by research done by Dr. Elaine Aaron. And the basic gist of it is is that your nervous system is wired differently than someone who is not highly sensitive. So if you’re nervous STEM is wired differently, that means that something that would not be very stimulating or maybe not stimulating at all, to someone who’s not highly sensitive, let’s say like a loud rock concert is going to like below a person who’s highly sensitive out of their skin, they’ll be like, completely sensory overwhelmed. So a person who’s a highly sensitive entrepreneur is someone who, again, was born into the world highly sensitive as that 20%. And feels called to be self employed. And typically, that calling falls in the area of a service based business, like being a coach, or a healing practitioner, or a creative entrepreneur, you know, you have this gift, you’re really, really excellent at coaching or healing, or creatively serving others, you know, through any type of art or music or dance or what have you. And yet, when it comes to how do I actually do that in a way where I am self employed, that’s where just all the wires go into overload. And that’s where myself and my teachings and my mentoring programmes come in. Right? Okay.
David Ralph [36:26]
So in layman’s terms, somebody is out there listening to this. They know they’ve got something in them that they’ve used for years and years, and four, and it’s probably quite easy to use, it might be that they’re, they’ve got empathy, it might be that they’re good with their hands, it might be something, you take that essence of what they do naturally, and then build it up, build it up, build it up, so that it becomes their thing. Is that right? And then you help them market that and sell based around that thing.
Heather Dominick [36:56]
Yeah, that’s a really great way of saying it. What I would add to that is I also help, what gets in the way, all that inner stuff that we were talking about earlier, you know, all those HSC shadows that tried to thwart and sabotage that creation of HS II financial success.
David Ralph [37:16]
So how sensitive Are you? Did you actually need to be sensitive? Or do you need to be hardened? To help other people out? Can you be too sensitive?
Heather Dominick [37:26]
Well, I’ve developed a what I refer to as the HSC quiz or assessment that works off of Dr. Elaine Aaron’s assessment. And when you take that quiz online, you will find if you are somewhat highly sensitive, or super highly sensitive, or super uber, and I am super uber. And that was the thing that really blew me out of the water back during that dark night of the soul and 2011 when I discovered that I was highly sensitive. I had never heard the term before. But I wasn’t really surprised that I was highly sensitive. What surprised me was how highly sensitive I was. And that’s when I came to really develop the work around being a pusher or a hider as a coping mechanism. And that’s how I had really been surviving up until that time by pushing but it was coming at a very, very high cost. And so now I’m not hardened I’m actually able to ease into my highly sensitive nature more easily and really be able to use it in a way that serves me and allows me to be able to serve more people
David Ralph [38:50]
so so with your your platform, obviously you’ve got coaches working for you is is this like a kind of Gordon Ramsay restaurant but you go to the restaurant and you never see have a dominant you never see Gordon Ramsay you never see the leader? or can people pay extra to have you or are you part of their package? How does it work? How are you probably have it without being burnt out? Because everybody wants to have
Heather Dominick [39:15]
a? Yes, well, I am definitely very much a part of all of the mentoring programmes, but like we were talking about earlier, I don’t do it on my own. So I am definitely present on our mentoring programme forums and I am definitely available as part of the group call structure and then there’s certain level of mentoring programmes where clients also have private calls with me. And I would say the most important part of our mentoring programmes are our in person training retreats when we come to gather input Sn as a community, and literally, HS E’s fly in from all around the world to attend my in person trainings. And that’s the place where I’m absolutely able to, you know, be at my best service, do my deepest work and, and really connect with everyone in the community.
David Ralph [40:22]
And I love this because this is multi layered, this is something that hasn’t occurred overnight, and it’s like an onion that you’re peeling, and you’re getting more and more value and depth out of it. When I first looked at it, I thought, okay, it’s going to be you’re doing the coaching and then I’ve found that it’s you and your team doing the coaching. And now I see that there’s actual retreats, something like this for somebody who’s out there thinking about becoming a coach or a business person. This is a great blueprint, isn’t it, of actually expanding your reach into many different areas, to tailor for the strengths of the person who’s dealing with that area? I imagine there’s some coaches that do some great stuff, but you wouldn’t you do retreats, or they wouldn’t. And so it really plays to everyone’s strengths. But he provides that that double whammy of value?
Heather Dominick [41:12]
Absolutely, yeah, you’ve really nailed it and are really seeing into it. And what I would also add is that it’s really been developed and designed very consciously over time, I’m always assessing what the community needs, and really specifically what highly sensitive entrepreneurs need in order to be able to learn best. And I would say anyone who’s looking to create something similar, that goes back to that doable step by doable step and the willingness to allow it to be a process.
David Ralph [41:48]
Yeah, I agree with that. It’s gonna take time I see. So many people start a venture. And literally, after 15 seconds, they’re saying, oh, sign up for my monthly membership. And it doesn’t work, you need to have background experience, you need to have grown something for that to work. But I see people putting the horse before the car in so many ways,
Heather Dominick [42:10]
for sure. I really agree. And I would say that that’s a real, you know, negative side of the internet, because we’re just bombarded with so many messages of overnight, quick success. And I just have found that, you know, maybe for a few select for a few moments, but really, truly, it’s about the willingness to allow it to evolve. So one of the things that I say all the time is that the process is the goal. And as you can really lean into that, you will absolutely experience so much better results, and you will actually experience so much more peace when it comes to creating and producing
David Ralph [43:00]
right stuff. Well, I’m gonna play the words from a man now, who he created created so much so much that you can hardly believe it. One person did it. Of course, he had a team around him, but it was his vision as well. Steve Jobs of course, it
Unknown Speaker [43:13]
was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something your gut, destiny life karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart even when it leads you off the well worn path and that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [43:47]
Yeah a bit good however, aren’t they those words?
Heather Dominick [43:50]
They are fantastic so moving and really say so much about exactly what your your show does.
David Ralph [43:58]
And that’s why we called it Join Up Dots. So I salute you Mr. Jobs for your true legacy. It wasn’t about the iPod. It was about this, this podcast that you never got to hear but you’re on it every day. And yeah, I just think what I like about this is the fact that it’s it’s our life we don’t actually have to force anything, it’s our life that’s leading us to the right position. We just need to keep our eyes open and have faith in not even the process of faith that it’s going to happen that’s what I like about it.
Heather Dominick [44:30]
I love it. I love it and I agree with it so deeply
David Ralph [44:34]
good then we will be friends forever however I can feel this going to be a special relationship and I’m going to be highly sensitive from this moment onwards Can Can you can you get too sensitive because I am concerned about this but you can open somebody and they become kind of I don’t know they lose track of who they felt comfortable with. Can you become too highly sensitive guy?
Heather Dominick [44:56]
I just so love that I was gonna say another question, but I don’t want to, you know, keep racking up your great question. So it’s, first of all, being highly sensitive is different from, say being overly emotional. So I say there’s a difference between being an H S, Li, and an O S E. So when you first of all discover that you are highly sensitive, then the next step is, you know, again, everything that I teach in my mentoring programmes, which is about learning how to use that sensitivity as a strength, rather than allowing it to swallow you in your shadows. So if you really take that approach, you cannot be too highly sensitive. It will only make, first of all being in business so much easier, and it will make your life literally so much better.
David Ralph [45:56]
So just before we push you through to the Sermon on the mind, when we send you back in time, the big ending of the show, what what’s your plan going forward? You’ve got so much going on at the moment. Is it just more of the same? Or are you sitting there thinking? Yes, yes, well, domination will be mine.
Heather Dominick [46:16]
Well, I think world domination would be exhausting. And yet, I absolutely do feel the call to reach more people who are highly sensitive and to feel the calling to be self employed. Because it is really my belief that the more of us who are highly sensitive, that can step into our strengths and can play a significant role in our communities, which often happens through business, and being able to be in business in a way that’s different than what’s been done up until now. That is the part that we have to play with really being able to bring this world to a better place, which is so very needed at this time.
David Ralph [47:06]
Well said well said Indeed. Well, this is the bit that we’ve been leading up to. And this is the bit that called the Sermon on the mic, when we’re going to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Heather, which age heavy would you choose? And what advice would you give her? Well, we’re going to find out because we’re going to play the theme. And when it fades, you’re up, this is the Sermon on the mic
Unknown Speaker [47:36]
we go with the best bit of the show, sermon on the mind.
Heather Dominick [47:52]
My dear, sweet, sweet heart, you are so absolutely talented, you are so absolutely on the right track. And really what is most needed at this time is for you to relax, to be able to just rest and to ease into the heart of yourself to accept that you are different. And that there is glory in this difference to rather than try to hide or feel ashamed about all the ways that you are different, to really begin to know those parts of yourself that are different, to begin to cultivate those parts of yourself that are different, to begin to lead your life with those parts of yourself that are different. And for anyone who can’t accept those differences. Just know that that lack of, of acceptance has nothing to do with you, and only has to do with them. And their own sense of insecurity and their own sense of fear and their own sense of unwillingness. But you You my dear sweet Sweetheart, you are meant to lead so many. So allow yourself to see what’s in front of you to work with what’s right in front of you to stay open to what is next. And to trust deeply that you are being led. Yeah,
David Ralph [49:45]
lovely stuff. Lovely stuff. So however, for the people that have been listening today, what’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you?
Heather Dominick [49:51]
Well, I would say for those who have been listening today, if as you’ve been listening, you’re having a little inkling of wondering. I don’t Oh no, am I highly sensitive, I would definitely recommend that you take the quiz. And you can do that by going to HS e quiz.com. And like I said earlier, you’ll find out that either you’re not highly sensitive or somewhat super, or like me, super uber. And then when you complete the quiz, you will receive a free success guide, depending on somewhat super, super uber, that will give you the next steps to take to show you how to be able to step into being self employed, or to work as a person who’s already self employed. From a place of really just owning and claiming your HSC strength and stuff,
David Ralph [50:43]
we will have all the links on the show notes, ever. Thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again when you got more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our paths is the best way to build our futures ever. Thank you so much.
Heather Dominick [51:00]
Thank you, David. Love your show and love to being here with you today.
David Ralph [51:07]
Have a Dominic. Now, hopefully you didn’t come across on the show. But there was a huge gap between her talking and me talking. We kind of pulled it together. So it sounds like it’s normal. But I didn’t bat in I didn’t Patti and I had to let her finish, which probably made it a better show. And it wasn’t all about me. As I get told off sometimes. Sometimes it’s all about you, David. Now if you are interested in that it’s a totally different kind. Of course. It’s it’s more than the whole package I suppose been most courses I’ve seen. But um, if you are interested in becoming an entrepreneur and finding a business that suits you, then jump over to our show notes or of course go over to business miracles, and you will find Heather there. And of course, the next time you click on the Join Up Dots logo, you will find me here as well because it’s while I do it’s Michelle, until next time,
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