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Introducing Georgia Bamber
Georgia Bamber is today’s guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots business podcast.
She is a certified Life Coach and has a Masters in Psychology, and in the past, she worked as a therapist counselings refugees and asylum seekers and running women’s support groups.
Her main focus now is in the area of positive psychology and helping people to find their spark.
As she says “I decided long ago that the only way to make the most of this crazy, wonderful world we live in was to put myself out there and really live it.
To experience, to love and to learn – every single day.
I have put this mantra into practice.
How The Dots Joined Up For Georgia
I have lived in seven different countries on four different continents.
I have had a wide range of jobs from a financial analyst to running my own farm and now coaching others to embrace the good life. It’s all been fun.
Of course, life hasn’t always been a bed of roses and I have made mistakes, plenty of them, but I have never let that stop me from showing up, putting myself out there and chasing my dreams.
I have come to understand that happiness is a CHOICE. You just need to know this to be true.
She is a graduate of Cornell University and, as well as the Psychology Masters, she also have an MBA from the City University Business School, London.
She is certified in Plant Based Nutrition and competes in endurance running and triathlon events. She is a yogi and insight meditation practitioner
So why do people think that they can find happiness by working on external things, when it all starts within?
And even though she has created her dream job, does she still have days when she thinks….”blah……i am not feeling it today”?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only Georgia Bamber
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During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Georgia Bamber such as:
Georgia shares with us why she could see how the dots were joining up in her life, which wouldn’t have happened if she didn’t really focus in on herself.
We discuss the ability of gaining customers through speaking and festivals – You dont need a ton of organic online traffic to make a living.
We talk about the issue that people have, whereby they want to be given the answers which never ever works.
Why its not your circumstances that make your situation, its the way that you think about your circumstances that makes the difference.
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Full Transcription Of Georgia Bamber Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:25]
Yes, hello there. Good morning. Good morning to you and welcome to another episode of Join Up Dots. It’s funny. I’ve been doing this for seven years now and I’ll be absolutely transparent. Probably six months ago, I felt like I was just kind of going through the motions of churning out another show churning out another show, but the it sparked back in for me, I don’t know why, but maybe it’s just because I’m feeling healthier and feeling more inspired. Who knows, but I know that this lady today she knows how to feel good because she is a certified life coach and has a master’s in psychology and in the past. She worked as a therapist, counselling refugees and asylum seekers and running women’s support groups. Now her main focus now is in the area of positive psychology and helping people to find their Spark. As she says, I decided long ago that the only way to make the most of this crazy, wonderful world we live in, was to put myself out there and really live it to experience to love and to learn every single day, I put this mantra into practice. I’ve now lived in seven different countries on four different continents. I have a wide range of jobs from a financial analyst to running my own farm, and now coaching others to embrace the good life. It’s all been fun. Of course, life hasn’t always been a bed of roses, and I’ve made mistakes, plenty of them. But I’ve never let that stop me from showing up putting myself out there and chasing my dreams. I’ve come to understand that happiness is a choice. You just need to know this to be true. Now she’s a graduate of Cornell University and as well as a psychology Master’s. She also has an MBA from the City University Business School of London and she’s certified in plant based nutrition and competes in in Germans running and triathlon events out. It’s too much effort that she is a yogi and insight meditation practitioner. So why do people think that they can find happiness by working on external things when it all starts within? And even though she’s created her dream job? Does she still have days like I was saying when she thinks I’m really not feeling it today? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show, to start joining up dots with the one and only Georgia Bamber. Morning Georgia.
Georgia Bamber [2:38]
How are you? I’m very well, David, thank you. How are you?
David Ralph [2:42]
I’m very good at the moment. And I’m really reflecting how I was in a kind of slump of just another one, just another one. And it just kind of felt like I was in a sort of rat race, but I’ve kind of found my spark since locked down when we went into lockdown. I simplified everything in my life and realised that actually, it wasn’t about sort of churning more out. It was about being happy with what I’ve already done. It was a time for me to reflect, did you have the same kind of thing when we was all locked down, looking at each other and thinking, Oh, I can’t watch anymore Netflix.
Georgia Bamber [3:20]
I do actually have the same experience. And I’ve heard that from so many clients of mine and people I’ve talked to that they really started to appreciate what it was that they like about their life and the stuff that they hate and people have been left letting go of all that stuff left, right and centre and just really focusing on you know, the things that make them happy. And it’s that is the the one like overriding positive that I’ve heard from from nearly everyone is locked down and there’s not much positive, but that’s definitely something that has come up a lot.
David Ralph [3:47]
And I think our gardens are all better as well, aren’t they? You know, every single person I’ve spoken to have said, You know, I never had an interest in gardening but it was the only thing I could do. And now I understand it and Interestingly, they they’ve kind of moved and I’m the same as this. They’ve moved into gardening, and then they realise what gardening is all about. It’s the pace. And when they’ve kind of moved into meditation, they could never get into meditation. But now they kind of understand that meditation isn’t just sitting cross legged on the floor is it’s about, you know, breathing right and being calm and being peaceful. It’s interesting.
Georgia Bamber [4:25]
moment is Yeah, yeah, that’s a funny you mentioned the garden. We’ve actually got a five acre garden where we are and it was a complete tip. Oh, say before lockdown, and now it’s beautiful. But all we’ve done,
David Ralph [4:36]
you should look at mine. You should look at mine. I keep the same to the kids that doesn’t mind lawn look green. Doesn’t my lawnmower green, except for the next door neighbor’s they’ve got astroturf now, and theirs looks really greens. Yeah, it kind of ruins it. So let’s talk about you Georgia. So you’re at the moment you’re loving your life. You’re doing things that you want to do. Let’s take you back. Let’s take you back to that moment when you decide I did, this is what I want to do, and I’m gonna make a go at it. Was it a kind of gradual? Oh, there’s got to be more to life than what I’m getting? Or was it an epiphany?
Georgia Bamber [5:12]
It was more I have done so many different things over the course of my life and particularly my working life, you know, going from one as you know, as you said in the kind of intro I’ve started out my life as a financial analyst soon realised I didn’t want to do that. And then I did my Master’s in psychology and the Masters in Business, all these different things. And I think it was just a coming together of everything that I’ve achieved and putting it all under one umbrella which ended up being coaching. So it was just everything I’ve done adding up and when I say
David Ralph [5:44]
Georgia, can I use a phrase, but
Georgia Bamber [5:47]
you can definitely use that phrase I was I think it must have been about five years ago, I started running courses teaching people how to eat plant based because I’m vegan and I wanted to spread the message to the world. As as you know, so many of us vegans do, which is really help people kind of embrace that healthy living. And I was doing that for a couple of years and writing my course and writing blog posts. And I just said to my husband, if I have to write one more blog post about plant based eating and die, boredom, die of boredom, not that I don’t want everyone to eat plant based I do, but it was just wearing on me. And then I thought, This is not what I want to be doing. And then I’m like, I’ve got a business degree. I’ve got a psychology degree. I’m, you know, certified in plant based eating, what am I doing? Why don’t I just put all this stuff together and become a coach and help people make changes in their life? So it was just kind of his epiphany in that way, like, what am I doing? I’m not using my skill sets, and then I brought them all together.
David Ralph [6:40]
Now let’s talk about the plant based business because I know that sort of really, and I was watching Zac Efron on Netflix, going around the world finding sustainability and one of the things he was talking about was sort of eating plants and stuff, and I understand it. I’m kind of old. Let’s open the fridge and let’s get a bag of crisps out Now he’s
Georgia Bamber [7:02]
taken euro good on the Chris selfie.
David Ralph [7:05]
Well, there you go. You’ve won me over. I’m a vegan from the day I got
Georgia Bamber [7:11]
this interested. Oh, good. Yeah.
David Ralph [7:13]
So there’s a lot of things for now that people go Yeah, I should be doing that. But it’s kind of that there’s too much there’s too much being thrown at us. What would be your suggestion on it if somebody is interested and they don’t want to spend all their day looking at packaging in supermarkets and wondering what the content value was? What would be the sort of good way of a simple step into sort of healthy eating and healthy living?
Georgia Bamber [7:39]
I started on this path really, when we moved to our farm in Australia about 10 years ago now. Did you ever watch that show river cottage now had my kind of river cottage dream with a hue family wedding still? And he goes and he has his own farm grows his own fruits and oh,
David Ralph [7:54]
yeah, I remember that now. Yes, I do remember. Yeah, yeah.
Georgia Bamber [7:56]
So we bought a farm in Australia and I set up my vegetable patch and So I started really with real food. And I think that’s just such a great rule to start with just eat real food, you can’t really go wrong with that. So if it hasn’t been processed, if it you know, doesn’t have real ingredients that you can’t read or can’t find in your cupboard, start there, just eat real food. And then I kind of went down the vegetarian and then ultimately the plant based eating fruit. But it all started with real food, which I think is the the easiest way to verify what you’re
David Ralph [8:24]
eating. Yeah, good, because we’ve got sort of cookery books and stuff that we’ve bought. And I think every now and again, I’m gonna do that. I’m gonna I’m gonna cook something and I open it and I think I haven’t got any of that in my cupboard and I closed the book and I put it away. It never ever happens. So you think just get a little space in your garden and just start growing tomatoes and cucumbers and stuff and just sort of build up the passion.
Georgia Bamber [8:47]
I think so once you start eating really fresh, good, like real food, not processed food, you don’t actually it’s been it’s not a chore to it’s not difficult to carry on because you feel so good and fresh and healthy eating that stuff. You don’t want to go Back to process stuff. It’s not appealing anymore. People say, Don’t you miss you know, eating burgers? And listen, I’m like, I actually just don’t I wouldn’t mind if I could just not interested, because I feel so good in the way I’m eating now.
David Ralph [9:12]
And is it one of those things? Is it as simple enough to say, but the better you feel inside, the better the external things just occur? Because I certainly my business is absolutely thriving, and I can see a balance of the more healthy and rested and relaxed I am, the better my business is doing. And when I was really stressed and trying to, you know, force it uphill, it was just it was just too difficult.
Georgia Bamber [9:40]
Absolutely, I mean, if you think about it, it’s it all comes down to energy. So if you’ve had a good night’s sleep, and you’ve eaten good nutritious food, you’re going to be full of energy and everything just works better. I think when you’re energetic, and you’ve had good sleep, you’re less grumpy, you make better decisions. So I think it’s just down to the energy and you get better energy from better food. It’s like, you know, The petrol you put in your car, if you put the high octane stuff in the car runs better. Same for our bodies, you put that kind of high octane, you know, good food fuel in, you’re going to run better.
David Ralph [10:09]
Let’s listen to Jim Carrey. And we’ll be back with Jojo.
Jim Carrey [10:11]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [10:38]
So you say to your husband, you said to him what I’m going to do, I’m going to start coaching people, I’m going to start showing them how to get a better life. And it’s also easy to say that Georgia, but it’s not just simply throw up a website and people will flock to you. So I’m always interested. I’m very much interested. I went over and I did some sort of research. And you’re not getting a tonne of organic traffic to your business. So you obviously get your clients in a different way. How are you doing it? Because so many people I speak to think that it’s all about creating thousands and thousands of blog posts and podcasts and stuff. And you’re seems very quiet and controlled and calm. Yeah. How are you doing it?
Georgia Bamber [11:22]
It’s very conscious decision. I went that way. Originally, I’ve done every course about online marketing known to man, I promise you, I know, a tonne about it. And that’s how I started my business. And it was all about my facebook group and blogging and putting doing Facebook Lives and you know, all the online marketing and it was just taking up so much time and
David Ralph [11:43]
emails, we’ve all been there.
Georgia Bamber [11:46]
And it just wasn’t working for me. And I’m not one to really in my personal life. I don’t particularly like social media that much. I never go on Instagram. I don’t use Facebook except for business. So it’s just not my personality to spend a whole lot of time on. My phone halftime I don’t know where my phone is. So it just wasn’t gelling with the way I am. And I’m like, there’s got to be a way to do this differently. There used to be businesses that were successful before Facebook. And so I went out, I found myself an amazing business coach who helped me generate business without having to go online. Of course, I have a small component of online in my business you have to in this day and age even just to have credibility, I suppose. But I get most of my clients through speaking events. So that’s how I find them.
David Ralph [12:30]
So So how did this is interesting then. So how do you find the speaking events? How do you because somebody was on the show the other day, and they gave a great tip of setting up a Google Alert with the word coding or speakers or something along those lines? Yeah. And then it pops up into their email inbox and they they pitch themselves and away they go. Do you do something similar?
Georgia Bamber [12:52]
I spent a lot of time researching different groups, organisations, corporations and companies, who would be Interested in the kind of topics that I speak about? So a lot of its research and yes, using those kind of things like, you know, call that call for speakers, you know, things like that. And also conferences, festivals, all these kinds of places where people will speak, I just do a lot of research and I send out a whole tonne of emails. And then, you know, someone will come back and they’re interested in the ones who don’t, you know, they don’t. So it’s in a surprising course, when the whole COVID and lockdown thing started, you would have thought my business went to pot because it was based around live events, you know, most mostly in person, but it’s actually been fine. Even better, because it’s moved on. Everyone’s online, everyone’s on zoom, everyone’s doing webinars. And it actually has expanded my potential audience because I don’t have to rely on places that I can get to or in, you know, in my country. So I’ve actually broadened my audience to a much more international audience. So it’s, it’s worked for me.
David Ralph [13:53]
In fact, it was brilliant, isn’t it? So effectively, you’re in control, you choose where Your audience is already hanging out. And you go to your audience, you’re not splashing around, like so many people trying to get them.
Georgia Bamber [14:08]
I do no marketing at all on my own. So I will only speak for people who will market my event, I don’t market them myself. So that just makes my life so much easier. I just have to research what I’m going to say. And then they do all the rest. And the beauty of speaking is that I get people’s attention for let’s say, 45 minutes to an hour. So when they walk away from there, they know me like pretty well, they know what I’m about. They have related to me, they’ve engaged with me. So I think the bond that I get with my potential clients is just so much stronger than you’ll ever get from a Facebook post or a blog.
David Ralph [14:40]
Because I used to spend years getting up on stages around London, United Kingdom and so when I did Join Up Dots, I thought our last thing I want to do is that and I used to get a lot of people asking me they don’t ask me anymore. They must have heard me say that I’m not going to do it. And I don’t do any sort of public speaking at all, and it’s it’s not a public speaking if I could get with in there and do the do and then be out. Brilliant. It’s the traipse in there staying in some crappy hotel the night before getting over to the place. It’s all that that I think to us a hardcopy buffet. So how much of this do you do? Do you do one a month? Do you do a big block of them have been six months off? How many do you do?
Georgia Bamber [15:21]
I’ve only been doing it for the last couple of years. And so really the last nine months, whatever has been, or six months has been locked down. So the webinars are brilliant. I’m doing maybe six or seven a month because I just do them from my study. So there’s nothing involved in that. And then in terms of the other ones, I probably try and do about three or four a month as local as possible. But I do travel into state. I haven’t travelled internationally with it yet. But that’s not an option at the moment anyway. So it’s not it’s not been too bad. But the whole webinar and online thing it’s been it’s been a blessing for speakers in some ways. It’s made life so much more pleasant.
David Ralph [15:57]
It’s so bloody obvious what you You’re doing isn’t it? You know, it is so simple, but the people that want your stuff already in place all together. So let’s go there. And that’s one of the things that I stopped at back in the day as we all had done. We’ve done Facebook Lives, we’ve done YouTubes and they’d be all over, you can find scatterings of grave yards basically, of Join Up Dots, social media stuff. Well, I tried a bit of this, and I tried a bit of a, and in the end, I just bought a not delivering quality. And when when my business changed, I used to do this being like so many people, oh, you need a community of 100,000 people and you need to be giving them Facebook Lives and all that kind of stuff. And then I suddenly thought to myself, no, why am I spending so much time giving free stuff away to people that don’t value it? Now? I have clients that come through and I say to them, right, okay, you’ve got me. I work with you. I don’t spend all my time speaking to Somebody who’s never going to buy anything, you’ve already bought it. So I’m now giving you as much information as possible. And it’s been just a game changer. It’s just and I look back on it all. And I think, what was I chasing poor? Because you don’t need thousands of customers? Do you? You just need to.
Georgia Bamber [17:17]
Yeah, yeah. And you need people who know you. And I think the whole online spaces as you know, we all know, like 10 years ago was so much easier than it is today. But the amount of noise out there and the clutter in the space is just immense. And it’s almost impossible if you starting out now, I think to break through that. So I think you’ve just got to find other ways and this for me was just the magic sauce. It just completely revolutionised my business and my life by like deciding to see how I can grow a business without using online tools. I’ve been a revelation.
David Ralph [17:49]
We should be married. Georgia, we really should because I you know, as I always say to people, I don’t have a phone at all. I don’t have a tablet. I’m not on social media. I haven’t tweeted it. Certain things go out automatically when I just post and he does it. But other than that, I don’t do any of it. And my business has thrived because of it. And so I, I really want to get this out to the listeners, but they don’t have to get 100,000 of the wrong clients coming to them all the time. They’ve just got to get two or three a month of the right ones. And then you really,
Georgia Bamber [18:24]
yeah, yeah, I think people are just focusing on all the wrong things. And as you said, They’re, they’re spreading their attention on all these people out there who aren’t really listening that hard instead of focusing on the group that really want to hear from them. So I think that’s key. And just to believe that you don’t, you know, there were, as I said, there were businesses in the world, you know, 20 years ago that didn’t use the internet and they worked. It’s possible.
David Ralph [18:46]
Jesus did, why didn’t he? He did just fine. He did a lot for himself. We’re talking to Georgia and we’ll be back after these words.
So if you would love to become my next success story and have your own life changing online business, following my step by step system, fine tuned over many years to take away the effort and expense that others struggle with, then come across to Join Up dots.com and book a free call with myself. Let’s get you living easy life as it’s there waiting for you to get it that is Join Up dots.com business coaching. So we’re talking to Georgia bambo. And right in the introduction of this show, we said that she said spends time getting the spark for her guests and her clients. So where do they lack ga? Why have they lost the spark?
Georgia Bamber [21:11]
I think people just there’s a number of reasons why people lose their spark these days, a lot of it is that we just all spend a lot of time reacting to our life and just putting out fires, I suppose. And people stop being intentional with where they’re going. And then they turn around, you know, when they’re, you know, mid 30s, mid 40s. And like, how did I get here? Well, they got there because they weren’t paying attention to where they were going. So I help people to really become much more intentional with their their lives and take a step back and look at what’s going on and help them to make the decisions to get where they want to be going, instead of just blindly walking down any path that comes their way.
David Ralph [21:48]
But do they know where they want to go? More often than not, they don’t. I think actually, I think everybody knows deep down somewhere that they know what they want and where they want to go. But it’s so clouded. By Everything else that’s going on in their life or their obligations, what you know society in their family in their friends can tell them they should be doing people kind of lose touch with what they really want, because they’ve got so much noise going on around them. So I help them to kind of cut through that noise and start asking the questions that really get them thinking about what they want. And then do you get the kind of people that you think they’re gonna get it, they’re gonna get it, and then the others you think, Oh, really, you know, you’re just gonna, you’re gonna work with me. And then three months later, you’re gonna be in exactly the same position because I, I have a very strong filter of the people that I want to work with now, because I want the ones that I can see there’s almost a blaze behind the eyes of let’s get going. Let’s do this. Can you see that with people that the ones that are just going through that moment in their life that they think oh, I’m gonna try this and then they’re not going to follow through?
Georgia Bamber [22:53]
Yeah, you definitely can see that. And I think for a lot of it’s particularly the people who come to me and they want me to give them the answer. And that’s not My job at all and my job is to help them find the answer. So if they’re asking me to give it to them, I know that it’s not going to work. But because I can’t, there’s no magic pill, you can’t make people change, you can’t change for them, they’ve got to want to do it themselves. So unless they’ve got that inclination that it’s gonna take work on that part unless they are willing to put in that effort. I know, it’s never gonna happen. So that’s the kind of key thing I look for. If somebody is looking for the magic pill, they’re not for me.
David Ralph [23:26]
And when they come to you, and I say to you, look, you do this for a living, you tell me what I need to do, how do you sort of knock them back? How have you become selective of who you actually work with? Because I know in the early days, I used to say yes to everyone, and a lot of a lot of them were terrible, really terrible, and I’ve won a billion pounds worth of value. And I don’t argue about everything and I now I’m very selective, I turned down, I turned down false amounts of money, just because I don’t like the person
Georgia Bamber [23:59]
because it’s a Testing is so draining, like working with somebody like that I’ve been with the clients that I love and who are really getting something out of my coaching. I feel so energised after a call, but the ones who are kind of trying to take from me that they just drain you and I don’t like that, that feeling at all. So yeah, as I said, if they’re if they’re looking for a solution to be given to them, I would generally say maybe, you know, tell them that this maybe is not the right avenue for them to figure it all out, because they need to be willing to put in that work. So it’s just getting a feel of whether they’re really committed to doing something about it themselves, I think,
David Ralph [24:33]
and what you said there really resonated the fact that it’s draining. And that’s one of the things that people have to be aware of, because I can look back on certain jobs that I used to spring to work to do and then spring around the office all day and come home and then just still have all the energy in the world. And then other jobs I did, I literally were was you know, I was a slug. I was sliding my way out the office at the end of the day because I was just out Tired, if you are on the wrong path, that is a big clue to it, isn’t it but your energy levels suggest just at the lowest level.
Georgia Bamber [25:09]
Because it’s not about being busy or having a tonne of things to do if you’re doing something that you love. Even if you’re doing it all day long, you’re pumped, because you’re loving it, you’re having so much fun. But if you’re spending the same amount of time working on something that you’re just not enjoying that that’s when that draining comes in, because you don’t want to be doing it. So yeah, I think that’s a brilliant sign to know that you’re in the right place or not in your life. If you’re full of beans, you know, you’re probably on the right track. If you’re feeling exhausted, you know that you probably need to make some changes.
David Ralph [25:36]
So let’s sort of reflect on you and me because we are from the outside probably looking like you know, we’re the smug couple where we both created something, but we really enjoy it
Unknown Speaker [25:49]
David Ralph [25:50]
yeah, everything is perfect in our life. But as I was saying about the beginning of the show, there was a time but even though I’d created everything that they wanted I started to think a bit. I don’t know if I want to do this anymore, even though it was given me everything that I dreamt of at the beginning. Is it simple enough to say that you you constantly have to change you can’t just be in because I think most people are in that corporate gig where they think like, I don’t want to be at my desk at nine o’clock. And so I want a job that gives them freedom. But then when they get the freedom, they kind of realise that actually, the routine was quite good. And I kind of need that. Is it a kind of stepping stone to where you need to go?
Georgia Bamber [26:34]
And it will the grass of course is always greener isn’t it doesn’t matter what you’re doing, you can always find something better somewhere else. But I think life is just about growth. And it doesn’t matter how far you’ve gone if you stop, you know, you just stagnate. So the only way to, to kind of feel consistently good and be enjoying your life is to continue to learn and grow. So I don’t think there’s a point where you ever stop if life is static, you just kind of shrivel don’t use so it’s All about just continually looking for other things to do. And that doesn’t mean being busy and working and being overwhelmed. It could just be learning a new skill or a hobby or reading something or it doesn’t matter, but it’s just, you know, maintaining that novelty and keeping that interest in spark alive in what you do.
David Ralph [27:17]
There’s my new thing is being quiet. I’ve really discovered quietness. I’ve been reading this book, The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolly. And totally Yeah, I had it a few years ago, and I started reading it, I thought, This is madness. It just didn’t resonate with me at all. And through lockdown. I picked it up again. And now it’s like it speaks my language. And I just totally understand. And so that has kind of become a focus, but I didn’t have before of really saying to myself, no, it’s not about getting to my office at nine o’clock in the morning and ploughing through till three o’clock in the afternoon. Like I used to thinking, well that’s pretty good. Most people are at work till six o’clock. Welcome at five o’clock, you know, and I’m stopping at free. It’s really about being aware of of my energy and thinking Actually, no, I don’t feel like it today. So I’m not it’s not a waste of time. It’s actually my body saying, do something different.
Georgia Bamber [28:16]
Absolutely, I’ve done the opposite. I’ve gotten noisy I took up the piano, I’m 46 years old. And I’ve always wanted to play the piano. And just to prove that you can actually take something up at this point in life, and I have zero musical talent. And I’m loving it. It’s so it’s, it’s just such a nice time out for my life. So I think just picking up anything like that, that’s completely out of the box just really switches things up and changes your perspective. So
David Ralph [28:40]
So for people out there, it’s not about you know, I did a show recently, and it was finding the happy within, and it became evident to me but a lot of people were coming to me looking for something to make them happy, but actually they need to do work on themselves before I started working with them. Building online And businesses and income streams that wasn’t gonna make them happy. They had to find something inside. And so yeah. Is it something that, you know, everybody’s always looking for Do you think because you know, I can play the piano and the sound of elton john songs bouncing around my house probably drives my family to distraction. But it’s I just say to my family I fancy uplink I fancy a plane. Yeah. And then all the doors go slam slam slam around the house because that’s playing the piano. But it it does bump me up 10 minutes, 15 minutes and then I’m back back up and going. That’s what people are missing
Georgia Bamber [29:38]
out of the state Yeah, takes you out of your mind for a while and just puts you really present in the moment when you’re doing something that’s going to be so concentrated. So yeah, I think it’s brilliant. And I think one of the things people are looking for this kind of happiness from the outside and this is where they get confused. And this is one of the key things that I teach my clients is that it’s all about having the awareness that it’s not your circumstances that are creating it. Happiness or your sadness or anything else, it’s your thoughts about your circumstances. It’s all that internal work that you need to do and look how you’re thinking about and reacting to the world. But the world is not the problem. It’s what you’re thinking about it. And so it’s bringing people back to that place where they stopped blaming everything outside of themselves, or, you know, to get what they want or why their life is as it is and bringing it inside and focusing and taking that responsibility for yourself.
David Ralph [30:26]
Wasn’t it Captain jack Sparrow that said something? It’s not the problem. That’s the problem. It’s the way you think of the problem.
Georgia Bamber [30:34]
Absolutely. He nailed it. That’s exactly exactly what I was getting at. That was my best kept in check. Once they do, they’re like, ah, and it changes everything.
David Ralph [30:46]
So with yourself, it’s brilliant. You’ve got a book out, achieve anything you want. Can you can you achieve me up in q1?
Georgia Bamber [30:57]
I think so. And people say oh, there’s no way you can achieve Anything you want? And I say, if it’s really what you want, then I think you can achieve it and guess Am I going to be an NBA basketball player? No, I can’t achieve that. It’s completely unreasonable. And it’s never going to happen. But actually, when I dig down deep, I don’t want to be an NBA basketball player. It’s not what I really truly want. So I think it’s about people looking at what their their skills and talents are looking at what their interests are, and then looking at all the kind of possibilities and opportunities in their life and bringing those things together and that’s where you find out what you really want and once you find out what you authentically really want yes, I do believe you can you keep taking action you can achieve it so 100%
David Ralph [31:37]
so what is in the book for people that jump over to Join Up Dots and see see proudly positioned where What’s it What kind of people would want because we all buy these books, and we get halfway through it and we stop reading it. What’s gonna make us
Unknown Speaker [31:54]
go all the way through the
Georgia Bamber [31:55]
reason I the way I wrote this book is I wrote it because So that people do get through the whole book. It’s fun, it’s easy to read. And it’s just a step by step guide, which runs you through my process of how to achieve a goal. It really from from the front to the back, it would take you an hour to read it. But there’s a lot of exercises in there. So if you do all the exercise, obviously, it takes longer. But I mean, I’ve got a massive bookshelf full of self help books and things like that. And I know people just read them, they get to chapter one or two, and it’s too hard. So I set up purposely to create a book that is really simple. It’s just got fun pictures in it. It’s got big font, and lots of really interesting fun exercises, and anyone can do it, anyone can follow it and it’s really simple to finish. So that was that was actually one of the things I was trying to achieve with the book. But the purpose really is I think coaching is you know, being a coach is an incredible thing and it can turn people’s lives around but so few people have access to a good coach or perhaps can afford coaching. So I wanted to be able to share my coaching skills, my top tips and tools with as many people It’s possible. So I put them in this really simple to use book format, in the hope that it will reach as many people as possible and help as many people reach their goals as I can.
David Ralph [33:10]
That to me, Georgia sounds perfect because I get bombarded literally every single guest comes on the show and says, I send you a copy of my book. And literally, they’re 400 pages, and they could do it in 30. If they just keep on going over the same message time and time again. And I think Yeah, I’ve got it. Now I know what you’re talking about. You don’t have to keep on stretching it out. So that’s what people want is then just pick it up within an hour bang, and you’re up and running.
Georgia Bamber [33:39]
Yeah, you know what you need to do. It takes you through step by step. And it’s it’s fun. And literally, I’ve had I’ve been I’ve had amazing feedback from teenagers to my mother in law, who’s 84 all say it’s brilliant and can use it and get something out of it. So it works for all age groups as well.
David Ralph [33:55]
So So what’s the big tip from it? What’s the big one for people that are listening? A thing yeah, that you want to achieve anything I want, what would be the number one?
Georgia Bamber [34:05]
Oh, that’s so hard because there are five steps and it’s and they’re all stencils to pick one. It’s very difficult, but I think out of
David Ralph [34:13]
the five, we’ve got paintings, I’d go with a five.
Georgia Bamber [34:16]
Alright, so we have five steps. And they’re all obvious when you say them, but they’re not necessarily obvious before you think about them. So the first one is to find clarity, really know what it is that you want. The second step is to find that motivation. So figure out why do you want it to generate that motivation. And then the third step is removing blocks and figuring out ways that you can kind of get over them or under them or avoid them so that you’re prepared for anything that could get in your way. The fourth step is all about mindset. And that’s about becoming the kind of person that you need to be in order to achieve your goal. So really understanding the kind of thoughts you need to be thinking the things you need to be feeling in order to reach that goal. And then the fifth step is having a plan Because if you don’t have a plan, it’s really hard to know what it is that you need to do every day. So that’s really key is to to plan it out so that you can keep taking action. So overall, I think the key takeaway would be is just to go through all those steps. And as long as you keep taking action, as long as you keep moving forwards, you will get to where you want to go.
David Ralph [35:19]
I think need the first one that you say the clarity, that that seems to me the biggest problem that people have, they don’t know themselves, and they don’t know what they want. And, you know, I agreed review when people come to me, more often than not, they say, tell me what to do. And I sort of say, Well, I can show you what to do, but we need to know what direction you want to head. There’s no point in me working with you. If you can’t come up with something that you’re passionate about, and you’ve got that spark in your eyes, and some people I talked to I can see it. They literally like bouncing up and down on the chair. Other people it’s like talking to like a dead fish. You can just see in their eyes, they just haven’t got a clue what they actually want. And if you haven’t got that direction, I think it was it. Alice in Wonderland or something that said, you know, if you don’t know which way you’re going any way we’ll do or something along those lines.
Unknown Speaker [36:16]
I think she,
David Ralph [36:17]
yeah. And I think that is the problem. People don’t do the work on themselves. They don’t know themselves. They’ve been told and directed and pushed and encouraged all the way through. And then they end up with an MBA in psychology. And actually, they think, no, I want to be a surfer. I don’t want to be I don’t want to be that. Why did I do that?
Georgia Bamber [36:37]
Absolutely. We spend all our life I mean, so many people spend their lives living by other people’s values, and that’s where I think they go wrong. And very few people take the time to really think about what do they care about what’s important to them? And that’s the key to finding what you want, knowing what it is that’s important to you and so many people don’t know. It’s amazing.
David Ralph [36:56]
Did you know when you were younger, because I certainly didn’t
Georgia Bamber [37:00]
I didn’t know but I’ve always, I’ve always had Yeah, I think I couldn’t have told you exactly what it was. But I think my overriding all my life, I’ve wanted freedom and I would say that’s my top value freedom to be who I want to be freedom to pursue the things that I want to pursue. And so all the decisions I’ve made, many of them My life has always revolved around that aspect of freedom. I’ve tried not to change myself down to anything or anyone plays which you can tell by man I’ve travelled in my life. So for me, that’s a core value. And as long as I incorporate that in my life, I know that I’m going to be on the right path. So but a lot of people don’t know that about themselves. They don’t know what it is that they really need.
David Ralph [37:38]
I remember when I was at school, I was all about being in the next Wham basically. And it was all about playing keyboards and bands and all that and then that kind of fizzled out and I wanted to be an offer, and I can look back and all these things. There was creativity. There was totally You know, it was me bringing something from inside out to the world. So when I hit the podcasting world, I thought this is for me, it this just seems like a natural fit. But yeah, I can think of freedom and creativity, if it chains me into a position that I can’t just go, No, I’m not doing that. I don’t want to do that anymore. And I have to feel like something is coming out of me that makes a difference.
Georgia Bamber [38:22]
Yeah, absolutely. So you It sounds like you’re pretty in touch with your core values as well, which is why you’ve ended up in a place that you’re happy. So it’s that’s what that’s I think the really key thing is to understand your values.
David Ralph [38:33]
Yeah, not always happy. But I would say to me that the majority of time,
Georgia Bamber [38:38]
well, let’s be happy all the time. Anyway. Do you? I mean, that’s the thing. People expecting this life with this thing all the time. I want to be because life’s about contrast, isn’t it? And if you were happy all the time, you wouldn’t know it. It would just be normal. Oh, my mind.
David Ralph [38:52]
My brain has just been blown there. Right. So. So to actually think to yourself, I’m feeling really good. Today, you’ve got to have some crappy times.
Georgia Bamber [39:03]
Yeah, you’ve got to have something to compare it to the holiday and work if you’re on holiday all the time, it wouldn’t be holiday would just be life.
David Ralph [39:10]
Yeah, I can see that. Oh, I okay, I want you to argue with you. But I think I think I think you’ve swung me. Let’s listen to stage jobs.
Steve Jobs [39:19]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [39:54]
It might make all the difference.
Georgia Bamber [39:58]
But the dots
David Ralph [39:59]
yeah But that’s one of the words that he said when?
Georgia Bamber [40:04]
Yeah, absolutely, it’s true. And I think that people spend a lot of time as much as I just said, having a plan to achieve your goal is important. That is true. But people spend so much time planning out their life. And I think your life ends up being so much better than any plan that you could have possibly imagined when you were in your late teens or early 20s. And you just got to be open to what comes up and be willing to kind of take chances and, and make the most of opportunities that come to you. And if you were just stuck on that rigid plan your own dots that you’ve mapped out ahead of time, life would just be so boring, and it wouldn’t be anywhere near as amazing as it as it can be and probably will be if you just let it flow. So yeah, I think you can only look back and see how it’s connected because you can’t plan for that in advance.
David Ralph [40:47]
When I was in, in just before March, we went to Iceland for a few days, me and my wife and we had such a wonderful time we said why every month we’re going to fly away to somewhere and then lockdown happened and everything out the window. But but it’s major success. But actually, you can have adventure on your doorstep. And so what we do now we hire these we what we buy them. They’re like treasure hunts of local towns, and you pay about 10 pounds. And they, you download them as a PDF. And then you drive to your local town, your local car park and it says, right, you’ve got to find the first clue. And even though it’s right on our doorstep, we’re having like these little mini adventures, which wouldn’t have come to me if I was planned on doing these sort of like bigger jumps every every year. And so it’s been a sort of real eye opener that right on your doorstep. You can have fun and inspiration and spontaneity. If you’re not too restricted by stuff.
Georgia Bamber [41:46]
Absolutely. And if somebody said to me when I was 20 Okay, write down what you’re definitely going to be by the time you reach 50 I’m so glad that it wasn’t possible because I wouldn’t want to be now what I wanted to be when I was 20. So I think you need to have that experience of life, don’t you to open up all the opportunities and possibilities to you so you can’t decide in advance?
David Ralph [42:06]
I still quite fancy being George Michael. Not not hanging, not hanging around men’s toilets and all that kind of stuff when you say, Yeah, but the actual sort of, yeah, that would have been good when that being being a bit of George.
Georgia Bamber [42:18]
Yeah. I think I’d rather be one of those people who is really amazing and famous in their own field, but nobody recognise them when they’re out on the street because I think that would be I don’t know, I don’t think I’d enjoy that much.
David Ralph [42:30]
But my favourite is the Coldplay guys. You know, everybody knows the singer Chris Martin and the other three you know, if you fell over and we know you, wouldn’t you wouldn’t I you know, I listen to Coldplay a lot. And I still have to try to remember what they’ve got. The bass players name is you know, that must be brilliant, but you can be as famous as fame. And then you can walk into the supermarket and nobody recognises you.
Georgia Bamber [42:52]
Yeah. Jane Doe. There you go. There we
David Ralph [42:55]
go. That’s what we need listeners. All of you. You need to create the new Coldplay and be the So have an attractive one at the back that that works. If you’re gonna do that, then you’ve got it. Well, this is the bit of the show that we’ve been building up to. And this is the bit we called a sermon on the mount, where we’re going to send Georgia back in time to have a one on one with her younger self. And if she could go back in time and speak to the younger version, what advice would she gave? Well, we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the music and when it fades, in spare time to talk. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Georgia Bamber [43:50]
Okay, so if I was to go back in time and talk to the younger version of me kind of starting out on my life path, I think I would definitely tell myself, just to Follow your heart, go with what you are interested in, go with what sparks that kind of energy and passion you and don’t worry about what anyone else thinks. Don’t worry about what other people think is important. Just go with it. Because you could make a life you can make a career out of pretty much anything. So don’t stick to that conventional path very much. In the beginning of my life, I stopped to that conventional path I studied economics in in university, and then I went into investment banking because I thought that’s that’s how you do it. That’s how you go out there and make money and become successful. And very short order. I realised that that wasn’t for me. And I think if I’d realised at a younger age, that you could make possibility out of anything that you were interested in. That’s what I would have told myself. Just go with what you really excites you and have faith that you can do this that you have everything that you need in order to create an amazing life. It took me a long time to put all the pieces together and join us join all those dots as you say to kind of bring my life together as it is today, and if I had known what I knew now back in my 20s, that I could just follow my heart and it would all work out. Okay. Yeah amazes me to think where I might have been. So that would be my main piece of advice. Just do what you’re really excited and interested about. And it’ll all grow from there.
David Ralph [45:19]
Totally agree, totally agree. And I say my kids all the time, don’t worry about physics, because it’s boring anyway, just just do the subjects that is exciting. And it’s fun. You know,
Georgia Bamber [45:30]
I had the same conversation with my son who’s choosing his subjects. He’s going into the last final two years here in in Australia next year, and he’s had to choose his subjects. And he’s always so worried about it. I’m saying it doesn’t matter. Just choose what you love, because anything can happen. And yeah, and that’s just not where they’re teaching them in school, which is a shame.
David Ralph [45:48]
Yeah, absolutely. So Georgia for the people that have been listening today. What’s the number one way that they can connect with you?
Georgia Bamber [45:56]
They can go to my website which is Georgia Bamber. Come and find out more about me there. And if they want to buy my book achieve anything you want, it’s available through your favourite online booksellers. So Amazon or Book Depository or Barnes and Noble or wherever you like to get your books, you’ll find it on there. So let’s achieve anything you want. I think that’s a great place to start a goal or something you’d like to change.
David Ralph [46:21]
Yeah. And of course, you can come over to Join Up Dots in the show notes, and you will see the book there, but you can just click on and, and buy it directly. So Georgia, thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. And of course, please come back again when you got more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures Georgia Bamber. Thank you so much.
Georgia Bamber [46:44]
Thank you very much. It’s been a pleasure.
David Ralph [46:47]
Georgia Bamber. So she started doing jobs because she thought it’s what she should do. And she’s ended up knowing herself and knowing that it’s freedom that she most wants and she doesn’t Want to tie herself down? And I totally agree with that. I really do. You know, I had a job that was nine to five, I had a job that was eight to six, I had a job that was blooming forward to midnight. And it was awful. And then I created Join Up Dots. And more often than not through that process. I did the same thing. I created that kind of hour upon hour upon hour. Now, it’s a totally different ballgame. And for every single one of you out there, it’s about finding your thing and making a decision and then working towards it. As Georgia was saying, she hasn’t got a lot of online traffic coming through. But she goes to where her audience are interested in what she needs to say she does it that way. There’s so many different ways that you can build online income and you don’t have to be a corporate guy just being a lady just being paid by one person. Why don’t you create something and be patient by many people, it’s a good way of living. Until next time, thank you so much. I hope you enjoyed that show. And I’ll be back soon. See ya. Bye bye.