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Introducing Scott and Mark From HTYC
Our guests joining us today on the Join Up Dots Podcast interview, are the powerhouses behind my favourite podcast Happen To Your Career Mr Scott Barlow and Mr Sieverkropp
However in this case, the podcast is just a small part of what is a passion filled centre of resource for all of us who are looking for a change in our career.
They quite simply believe that it is their unique path in life to ensure that we all fill our days with work that delights us.
So how have they done this?
Well of course, both of them have a passion for the task, and they also have been in jobs and positions that have filled them with dread.
Coming home exhausted, hating their bosses and seeing very little of their families they knew that they had to do something.
And we are glad that they have because without guys like this in the world, providing support and encouragement, helping with decisions so many of us would be in similar daily situations.
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs with the one and only Mr Scott Barlow and Mr Mark Sieverkropp
During the show we discussed such weighty subjects with the Happen To Your Career team such as:
How they get up at silly o’clock every morning to develop their passions and their career around the work restraints of a normal gig!
How its your job as a leader to make everybody act better!
How we limit ourselves by matching our weaknesses to other people strengths!
How unicorns can be found in heaven….and probably everywhere else!
How it is so important to build deep relationships with people that can lead to providing value to them directly!
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Audio Transcription Of HTYC Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:25]
Yes, hello, there. Hello there, everybody, and welcome to Episode 37 of the Join Up Dots. I’m still at the back of my garden. One of these days I’m going to be a good lad and they will let me back in my house but I’m quite happy now Hey, I’m Why should not be happy, because I have got some great guests. And I’ve got some amazing guests today, I’ve just been chatting to them off air, as we say in the trade. And it’s about the first interview, but I’ve done for many a moon, that’s a good time for me. And then I’m actually about Hospital in the morning, their family are in bed, they probably haven’t comb their hair, brush their teeth or done anything remotely resembling professionalism. And that’s all right, because we’re on Skype, so I can’t really see him. But I’m going to introduce you to them. Because our guests today are powerhouses behind my favourite podcast happen to your career. However, in this case, the podcast is just a small part of what is a passion field centre of resource broadcasters are looking for a change in our career. They quite simply believe that it’s their unique path in life to ensure that we all been out days with work back the lights us. So how have they done this? Well, of course, I have a passion for the task. And they also have been in jobs and positions that have filled them with dread coming home exhausted hating their bosses and seeing very little of their families. They knew that they had to do something and we’re glad that I have because without guys like this in the world providing support and encouragement helping with decision so many of us would be in similar daily situations. So let’s bring onto the show to start joining up the dots of our lives. Mr. Scott Barlow and Mr. Marc Seaver crap from HTYC . How are you guys?
Very good. Hello, here.
David Ralph [2:02]
It is completely thrilled. It is lovely to have you both here because you have been part of my my history. For for quite a while I used to listen to I haven’t listened to it for a while actually, I’ve been so tied up with my own life. How selfish is bad, how selfish and in the heart. Yeah, absolutely. And I used to listen to it over time. And I was struck once when you in in your pre show banter that you have couldn’t quite get the grips of what the United Kingdom is all about. And I wrote you a very lengthy
and that is how we met isn’t
David Ralph [2:39]
is how we met. Yeah. Now. So I sent you an email sort of breaking down what the United Kingdom is because you couldn’t understand your download your podcast download. But what was England? What was Scotland and what was and what will so have you learned if I put you to the test now could you could you quote, what the United Kingdom is?
Gonna make me do it isn’t a Scott,
he’s gonna make you do it, Mark. Ah,
now I’m going to show that I didn’t read his email. No. Okay. So England is a separate country United Kingdom includes all of the country’s correct foods. England includes Scotland and Wales Wales and and getting closer. The other one, AZ
David Ralph [3:24]
and that’s that’s funny enough what we call it over here as well. The other one? Yes. So if any of them my downloads from the other one have just died instantly.
I don’t getting hate mail now.
David Ralph [3:36]
Yeah, absolutely. So your your life is? It took me by surprise, actually. Because I didn’t realise but you are still doing normal jobs. You are you’ve got regular gigs. And you are balancing this this powerhouse, but is really creating its own sort of environment and momentum. In your in your own time still.
Yeah, it’s a way to a lot of things at 430 in the morning, five o’clock in the morning.
We do it’s Yeah, this is this is normal. This is par for the course for us. Can we put normal in air quotes? Is that possible? You can
do you can do? I can see me but I’m doing it right now.
David Ralph [4:13]
And do you sort of roll over and just nudge Scott, it’s time to get up? Scott, we have to get to work.
Anytime anytime I get on Skype,
there’s already a message Hey, call me when you’re awake.
David Ralph [4:25]
So was aware he’s live? Are you in similar areas? I believe you in Washington, is that right?
Yes, we are. We live in separate towns, but they’re next to each other. So like 30 minutes away. So we we catch up and meet in person and do meetings every once in a while? Once a week or so. But a lot of stuff we still do on Skype.
David Ralph [4:43]
So for the guys out there, the listeners out there but aren’t aware of happen to your career, I’m going to ask the first question that’s always struck me is why that phrase because it kind of doesn’t make sense. Does it happen to your career? What’s happened, what’s going to happen? But how does happen to your career? How was that made?
So the storey behind happened to your career in that whole name, and everything that comes with it is really about you being the change that you want to see. And I had I had this boss, this was back when I was in, you know, in college at Eastern Washington University way back when and, and I was I was actually working just a part time job. And this was before my first business and everything else along those lines. But I one of my one of my bosses he had, he had come into the into the back room, and he had said something to me, this was just a retailer, we were selling stuff and and he’s like, Scott, what are you doing, you need to get out there and you need to happen to something. And I don’t really think that at the time he was meaning to impart life advice. That wasn’t, that certainly wasn’t the case. But it really stuck with me for some reason, you know, every, every time when I was thinking about, hey, I need to actually get a, I need to make a difference, I need to make a change in my life. Personally, I would think back to that situation. It’s like I need to I need to just go happen to it, I just need to go and do whatever it is that I want to see that I want to be that I want to change. So later on when we’re considering names, I’ve actually, you know, this was even before I started the business, when I was just considering the name of a blog. It’s like, well, what, what really puts out there that that message of you’ve got to act to be the change that you want you want to see in your life, whether it’s careers or anything else. And and this is what we came up with,
David Ralph [6:36]
how many did you play around with because it’s the old thing about branding. But once you create the brand, it doesn’t really matter with the finer points of what the words are. classic example. Pat Flynn, smart, passive income, you know, everybody talks about that as such a clever branding. But really, but just like three words. Now he’s got the momentum. Now he’s got the profile in like, inspired. So what other ones did you come up with? before you went? No, it’s going to be happened to your career, I’ll happen to you career.
There was probably three or four. And to be honest, I don’t really remember them. They were really bad David.
It was this was this is the best of the worst. So I went with it. This is the only one that resonated really with what it was that I was trying to accomplish at the time. And one
by the time by the time I got into the picture, it was already happened to your career. So I had no say whatsoever. No, say otherwise. It’s kind of like the rest of our working relationship. Really. It’s just do what you’re told. And you know, sit in the corner.
Is that how it works?
David Ralph [7:40]
Yeah. So so you you are Scott’s like, which basically, is that what we’re saying? Yeah,
I think you can say that,
man. I’m learning something new here.
David Ralph [7:48]
I think we’re all learning something new going, I feel
I feel that either. I’ve got some more requests than
Then why aren’t you doing the things I asked if
that’s the case?
David Ralph [8:00]
mooning time I can see this image back in my head. This wasn’t where where I thought this interview was going to go really
wasn’t where I thought this would interfere was going, you know,
David Ralph [8:10]
so you’ve got this, this idea you’ve got happened to your career? And was it a kind of an epiphany? Was it something that as soon as it came into your head you bought? Yes. I’ve got to realise this, or was it like most things in our life, but it was just a Creeping, creeping realisation that hang on, something’s pulling me in the direction that I’m heading.
It was really, you know, I would love to say, it was this epiphany, I would love to say I had this amazing idea. And you know, like the heavens parted. And, you know, I saw a unicorn and all of these other things. And none of that happened. None of that happened at all. Do you get unicorns
David Ralph [8:49]
You know? I don’t think he do you
David Ralph [8:55]
know, what planet are you on? Scott?
My heaven Leave me alone.
David Ralph [8:59]
Yeah. Never heard of a unicorn in heaven in all my time.
Well, now you won’t be surprised and you get there. There you go. See before this, you would have got there and be like, what the heck yeah. Well,
David Ralph [9:10]
the spear What was he doing? Right.
See, now you’ll get there. You’ll be like Scott told me about this. I knew this was coming.
David Ralph [9:17]
I was prepared. I said, Scott, you’ve helped me
is a sort of, he’s a sort of Prophet
David Ralph [9:21]
really happened to your heavy role in that. That’s what it is.
Oh, dear. Yeah, Carrey? What was the question again?
David Ralph [9:31]
Yeah, it was the clouds partying, and you didn’t see unicorns? Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Yes. So
you know, I would, I would love to say that that was the case. And it really wasn’t, it was very much more a constant figuring out of what it was that I wanted to do. So this was before I met Mark, honestly. And I was I was evaluating different, different businesses. I had known for years that I wanted to go back to owning my own business, I had one, maybe eight years years before happened to your career was even conceived. And it was in the contracting industry did, you know, paint painting, residential, commercial for you know, houses and other things like that, we did remodels and, and I didn’t want to go back into that business, I had a lot of fun learning about business and, and, you know, developing and this was I, when I was a college student at the same time, but knew that I wanted to go into something that could really impact people’s lives in a different way. And I’ve very much just started, you know, making spider diagrams and and, you know, for those that don’t know what a spider diagram is, you know, you start in the middle and you draw, you draw a connecting point, and you draw what what the things that that pop in your mind, they’re also called mind maps are also called a couple of other things, too. But I started doing this for the things that I was really very passionate about, and the things that I really enjoyed. And the things that crossed over with that, that I felt I actually had some skill sets and some value. And one one of these things really was focused around careers because I’d been doing coaching for a while just on the side. And even before that, just, you know, for fun, like somebody might go play golf, or somebody might, I don’t know, watch TV for fun. This was something I was doing as a hobby. And eventually it, I realised that this is where I wanted to spend my time. And this is really the impact that I wanted to be able to have helping people make transitions from where they’re at, to work that actually matters to them.
David Ralph [11:30]
It is amazing when that happens, because I did actually have an epiphany. I only ever had one epiphany in my life. And this was when I decided to quit my nine to five job. And I was sitting there one afternoon pondering, and I was reading a blog online and didn’t really have anything to do with the blog. And suddenly, it was like,
David Ralph [11:52]
and the clouds did and the hooves of unicorns coming through my office.
David Ralph [11:58]
I knew there’d be unique they were unicorns, my fantasy. And it was it was, I couldn’t actually work. After that. I actually said to them that I need to take half day I need to go home. It was just like, suddenly, something had flipped a switch in me. And my energy just just when I was exhausted, and I went home, and I thought I’ve got to quit my job. I’ve got to leave my job. And my wife said, What are you going to do for a living? And it was like, I don’t know. But I got to do something. It wasn’t the Why isn’t it? Yeah, it wasn’t the wisest choice. But yeah, it was it was an epiphany. There was clouds. And there was, you know, white horses and everything.
Very nice. That’s amazing. That’s fantastic.
So must be true of both of you. So unicorn.
David Ralph [12:44]
Yeah. So when when you decided to join up with Scott, was it over a point when you were sitting there? And he said, Look, I’ve got this idea, or was this something that once again had been so presented to you in drips and drabs over a period of time?
Was was actually fairly quick. I mean, we were just talking about yesterday, it’s it’s been just over a year now that we’ve known each other but we we had a mutual friend and, and met up and I emailed Scott and said, Hey, you know, our friend here says that we’re doing similar things, and we should sit down and chat. And we did. It’s funny, it’s funny storey the first time we met, we had lunch. And I felt like I went away from the meeting, thinking he’s never gonna want to talk to me again. I just got that like impression. And that’s probably an accurate impression, but he won’t tell me that. Anyways, we did some other stuff. And then he just said, Hey, will you help me with this happen to your career stuff? And I was like, Yeah, sure. So it was fairly setting. And, you know, we were doing similar things as far as, you know, looking to speak places and you know, build our online presence and help people and do some training and stuff. So it worked very well to, to join up but yeah, he had already. He was already well on his journey, and I’m just kind of riding his coattails to success.
David Ralph [13:58]
And I understand that business overview. There’s you and Mark Scott and mark. Yeah, there’s Scott’s wife, Alyssa. And there’s a kind of web going in the background, some shady character that I remember reading at character. So you’re probably talking about Clark Buckner, who’s an awesome guy, she has a couple of his own.
early on, helped us get everything set up. But he is no longer I guess you could say affiliated or anything else other than just he’s a great friend. I was gonna say we still like him, you make it, we still like him.
We make something great a falling out or something where
he’s not with us not not that at all. He just helped out early on getting everything going. Getting everything set up. was a big part of that. I don’t know that I could have done some of that stuff without him. And you know, since then, he’s really turned into an amazing friend. And he’s he’s doing some really cool things on his own. You we wish him well, in his future endeavours.
David Ralph [14:56]
He stood on your website, though, isn’t it? Is he? He’s still because
I saw you see, we don’t have a web guy now. Yeah,
David Ralph [15:04]
clearly, there’s poor people and two of you. And I’m seeing your face now. And there’s Alyssa and there’s this character that you’re trying to wipe away.
We have been unsuccessful, he lingers,
David Ralph [15:18]
he does. He’s a linger. So you you build relationships quite woven Scott, so that you can meet people and they buy into your vision? Have you always had that ability to talk with such passion that people will follow you?
You know, I think my ability has been just being genuinely interested in people and being willing to say things that other people aren’t willing to say. So I have a lot of conversations with it. You know, actually, this is this part of how I met Clark to and hung out with Clark for the first time yet. The we’re just talking about I I met him at a conference, I met him a I think it was the Johnny Cash quitter conference way back when, and, you know, ended up going out for drinks with him afterwards. And, you know, he was telling me a little bit about what he wanted to do. And I think I called him out on some stuff, and said, You know, I don’t think you’re gonna be able to do it in that way. You know, and I don’t think that this is really what you’re passionate about, why are you pursuing this, you know, this other thing over here. And so that, that opened the door to a whole bunch of other other conversation that was real and was meaningful. And that’s what I find over and over again, is that because I’m willing to tell people how I really feel or what I really think, then it introduces to a different level of conversation. I, you know, I, I, I do small talk, I guess you could say like, like other people, but I don’t really enjoy small talk, I really like talking about the things that are that are real and at the core of life. So that’s just fun for me. So that’s, that’s part of what causes me to have those types of conversations over over and over again. And I’ve heard the phrase again and again and again. Wow, I’ve never told that to anybody before.
David Ralph [17:06]
Like the unicorns I’m imagine you’ve never said unicorns. Yes,
yes. I just want to go on record here. I don’t want to steal the interviewing interview or spot from from David here. But Scott, how do you have any friends when you call people out right away?
You know, I think sometimes I wonder that?
Well, I don’t know if you caught that, David, but it’s like, Yeah, I just met this guy Five minutes later. And I’m telling me, he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Well, now we’re friends.
David Ralph [17:32]
It was my next question, actually, whether he lost a lot of people on the route happened to your friends happened.
That was the one that didn’t make it. Yeah,
I think, you know, as I look back, and as I joined up the dots, I think the only thing that keeps my friends actually friendly with me, is because I always come from a place where I’m genuinely interested in caring about them. You know, regardless of whether I met them 13 years ago, or whether it’s a case where I met them five minutes ago, that’s, that’s where a lot of my questions, that’s where a lot of my call outs come from. And I think that every one of us has sort of a BS metre built into us. And we can tell when somebody’s not being genuine with us, no matter how hard we mask it, you know, how great of actors we are, that you can tell just, you know, something, something intangible that is not, you know, it doesn’t even necessarily register is exactly what it is. But you get that feeling about, about somebody if they’re not being genuine with you. And, and, yeah, that’s, that’s something I I try really hard to do is just live, you know, live my life and have conversations that actually matter. And I can be myself and be genuine. So I think if it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t have any friends.
David Ralph [18:54]
You would have me Scott,
I would have you, David. Yes. I appreciate that.
David Ralph [18:59]
As long let’s move on Skype.
As long as we’re on Skype,
David Ralph [19:04]
yeah. I don’t, I don’t want to get too close. I really don’t. Um, so we’ve happened to your career, they think the listeners listening in at the moment, and believe me about our millions. What would they get from happened to your career? So it’s not just a podcast? Is it? It’s, you know, for example, every time that I talked to you guys in an email or whatever, you always say, How can I help you? And you’re quite firm on having that as your kind of tagline, I suppose, really on all communication?
Yeah, and I think that that comes from Mark, when Mark joined, early on, he had really, he’d been adamant about adding value to other other people. And that’s something that I completely agreed with. But then, you know, this, how can I help you with literally every every conversation? You know, that was those really very much something that I love, but was inspired from Mark. So Mark, where did you come up with that?
You know, I’m not real sure. I just started saying it at some point.
It’s, it’s been kind of my mantra through through my life is, you know, I love the quote from Zig Ziegler where he says, you know, you can have anything you want in life, if you help enough other people get what they want. And that’s been something I’ve really tried to live by, I totally believe that that’s true. Another place that I caught it from, and it’s a little bit different, but in leadership circles, Chris Makoto, who’s a good friend of mine out of good friends award, but we’re friends online. And, and he always says that your job as a leader is to make other people successful. And so I’ve had all of these different areas where that seems to be the recurring theme of adding value and helping people and, and I just, I really feel that if we’re going to build relationships, and if we’re going to do what we want to do with having your career, which really is, you know, when Scott first talked to me about this, his idea was he wanted to change the world, literally, if we’re going to do that, the only way we’re going to do that is by helping other people get what they want. And so you know, David, when I have a conversation with you, my whole focus is David starting a podcast, how can I help him with that? What can I do? What What does he need? Does he need introductions to people? Does he need us to come on the show? I really don’t think that’s helping David. But you know that that’s for you to determine, I suppose. But those are the types of things that I immediately try to look for is is what I what can I do? What do I have in my life, that would be of benefit to somebody else? And if I do that, then I’ll be able to accomplish what I want to accomplish as well.
David Ralph [21:33]
Have you ever had any requests come back to you, but you kind of hint? Oh, I kind of wish I hadn’t asked now that’s that’s too big or too uncomfortable, or I wasn’t expecting that.
Well, there was actually i, this is a funny storey. This guy followed me on twitter the other day, and his, his little description or bio on Twitter said something like, and I thought it was a cool quote, he said, sometimes I just want to give it all up and become a billionaire. And so I tweeted him back when he followed me and I said, Hey, you know, thanks for the follow blah, blah, blah. I said, I, I love your quote, I said, That’s awesome. How can I help you get, you know, become a billionaire? And he tweeted me back and said, Can I borrow a billion dollars?
David Ralph [22:15]
That’s good question.
And I said, I would love to be able to say yes to that. However, I’m not yet in a position. So yeah, sometimes people do come back with things. And and, you know, at that point, it’s, I think it’s kind of along the same lines of what Scott was saying, it’s, it’s coming from a place where you really, really care about the person. And there’s been times that I’ve had to say, Well, you know, I’m not quite sure how I can help with that. But I could do this. And that’s typically how I’ll follow up with it is, you know, just tell them that, I’m not really able to do that. But here, how here is how I think we can meet in the middle and, and I can help you with some stuff. So you just send back, you do realise I’m married. Right? So that’s right.
I have that on text expand, or you have no idea how often they have to
nickel for every
David Ralph [23:05]
I can understand that I have to sign thing. And that’s that’s why I’m online now. Which is a strange thing know being online, as she was saying earlier, the chat with the leadership quote, he’s a friend, when I say that kind of loosely, is weird how we say that I’ve got people on the line now. But I go out there really close friends. I’ve never met them once. And you kind of build up, especially doing this job. During the podcast, I had these conversations where, because I have to do quite a bit of research about you beforehand, I start to feel like I know you. And then when I actually start talking to you, I feel like I really know you. And once I finish I kind of thing I wouldn’t it be great if I could just have a beer with that person, you know, and you do you kind of feel like you You build up this connexion, which is quite strong and powerful. But actually, it’s kind of almost built on sand. It’s weird how relationships have changed over the years.
You know, I think that’s true. And I, you know, the interesting thing is, I found early in my life, that how long you’ve known somebody and really, even if you live next to them doesn’t necessarily make them a good friend, I had this experience. When I was 19, I went on a mission for my church and, and I quickly found that I became better friends with people that I had known for literally six months than I was with people I had known my entire life. And I find that’s true with you know, everybody I meet online and the people interact with us we’re doing happening your career is, you know, if you have values, or you have goals that are lined up, you may have met the person last week, but they become one of your, you know, your closest friends, and they become somebody that you can talk to about anything. You know, and I don’t know how Scott feels. But I mean, you know, David, the few times we’ve emailed back and forth, that’s the way I felt with you. Because we have the same goal. We’re trying to do the same thing. Yeah. And so even though, you know, you and I have never sat down, and we’ve never, you know, gone to a sporting event together, I feel like if we did, you know, we could talk for hours, because we have those same goals, and we’re trying to get to the same place. And, and that’s, that’s so powerful about our passion. And that’s really, you know, as Scott night you have in your career, that’s why we want people to get to their passion, because it does just added depth to your life that you don’t have otherwise.
Well, and it was interesting, too. So Mark, you’d been? I think, before we had Chris Makoto, on our show, you’d been, you know, becoming friends with him and building a relationship for over a year. Right? Prior to that.
Yeah, at least half Yeah,
year, year and a half. And so when, when the came on the show when Chris came on, and you know, Mark actually did that interview, it was and I was listening, and I was the third party on Skype, and I was just doing the recording. And then, you know, I was playing techie guy, but, you know, listening to that, it was it sounded like to old friends. I mean, and because that relationship was there. And because, you know, I think to Mark’s point, there was so many common interests and, and so many things that that that were already there that were already built up the actual mattered, rather than some of the face value stuff, you know, that like what Mark describes in terms of, Hey, I might have a neighbour but I might not have a real relationship with that neighbour, it might just be saying hi, every day, and we never get into the thick of life for, you know, the things that actually matter where, you know, listening to you and Chris, you guys had having that conversation, it was it was clear that you guys had connected on the things that actually matter.
And I’m going to go on record here, David, you need to interview Chris Ricardo. So I will I will introduce you. I will introduce you.
David Ralph [26:33]
I know I can help you with things and all the weird with me, and some I
will make a half of it.
David Ralph [26:42]
So getting back to your your career, you know, I’m going to play the Steve Jobs speech because the show is based around the joining of dots and not being able to see your part until you look back. But I’ve been looking at your past I’ve been on LinkedIn I’ve been doing. I’ve been doing so online stalking job. And Mr. Mr. Barlow? Can I be honest with you? You don’t seem to be the most loyal employee, there seems to be quite a lot of jumping from one job to another very, very quickly. And I put it to you, sir. And I’m starting to learn your your talent upstairs saying what’s exactly in my mouth. I don’t think that you were actually fulfilling your requirements in each of those jobs.
And you’re just saying that based on the times that happened to be on my LinkedIn profile, the bear
David Ralph [27:36]
in mind that he said first LinkedIn profile that I’ve seen that says 12 and a half minutes in one job, and just after lunch on another one? I’ve never seen that normally. He goes into hours.
That is not true. It’s a 13 Minute. Oh, ok. So
I would appreciate the accuracy. So you know, here’s here’s the interesting thing, I guess, this storey behind the storey, I think you probably could look at that. And say that although before I changed my profile to really mesh up with happen, your career I was getting yet, I was getting contacts on a weekly basis with recruiters that wanted to talk to me about HR, you know, them not knowing that I’m not pursuing that over the long term, and I’d shifted gears. But in each one of those roles. I’m take it I worked for the state of Washington for a short while, I was only there I think for seven months. And I think that’s probably one of the that’s probably the only one that you’re referring to. In fact, that’s really less than three years. But when I came on board with them, I was blatantly honest up front with them that I wasn’t planning on staying around for a while. Yeah, and, you know, Unless Unless different opportunities opened up, and they were okay with that. They were thrilled to pieces, because I came on to help them, you know, take care of some different different employee situations, I guess we’ll call it. Yeah. Different discontent amongst the ranks. And yeah, that was my specialty when I worked for some previous employers and in helping rebuild morale and trust within an environment. And, you know, I came on specifically to help out with with that. And, you know, they, they weren’t surprised when I came and talked to them six months later, seven months later and said, Hey, you know, I want to move to this other thing. Here’s where I see my opportunities. Have I
David Ralph [29:22]
done you discern and
have you? Yeah, I know, I don’t, I don’t think so at all, I think that
I think that it is very reflective, I think I’ve got stuff that’s all over my resume, that probably isn’t necessarily traditional and probably isn’t necessarily desirable, or, well, probably desirable for some employers. Because I’m, you know,
David Ralph [29:54]
I honestly respect your, your career I do. Because I think on the other side are two things. I think I was too loyal. I did 15 years with the first company. And then I did 10 years with the next company, and pretty much and then a very small, sort of linking bit in the middle. I just worked for two, two companies. And when I started, it was always a case of that shows loyalty, and that shows, you know, a career path for life. But now, I would say to most people, that looks like a lack of ambition.
I would say so too, you know, having spent a lot of time in HR type roles and developing people and hiring people and, and doing all those types of things. I, I am puzzled when I see a resume that says I just spent 15 years with this one employer. And then I look at that it’s like, Well, okay, so why are you? Why are you making the transition now? And that’s one of the things where I want to find out, I want to understand what’s the storey behind that? Because somebody had that loyalty type mentality, and it’s something changed, you know, whether they were like, go from a job or whether they had an epiphany or whatever it is, yeah, something something changed in there. There’s a storey behind that. So I agree with you completely that. I don’t know that, you know, the 15 years, 10 years, things like that. I don’t know, that necessarily shows some of the ambition. I think many organisations are looking for it at this point in time, which is interesting, because that shows how much work and perceptions have changed, because 30 years ago, you know that that was massively rewarding.
Well, and I might throw in here, first off, you know, David, you were explaining what your avatar is to us. I think pre us going on the air. Absolutely. I am your avatar. I’m like exactly your avatar. So I’m the invoice will be in the mail for that. But that’s neither there. But you know, I look at it. And I’m the same way. My last job that I got, they actually asked me that question. My boss now said, it looks like you change jobs every two years. What’s up with that? And I didn’t tell them this at the time. But you know, I heard you, David say that you’d been at one place for 15 years in one place for 10. And in my mind, the first thing literally, that came to my mind is I will shoot myself in the head if I’m in the same place in 10 years. I can’t stand it. And I think that’s it’s you know, like you said, Scott, it’s just, it’s a different time. Now, people they value like you said, being ambitious and being you know, moving forward and wanting to do different things. It’s becoming more valued than loyalty. And it’s just, it’s just a different world. And I think my generation, those people that are in that avatar of I think you said what 2026 to 34, or whatever
David Ralph [32:35]
to 2234 was my avatar.
Yeah. So I’m 22. And so I’m just kidding, quite that yet. But, you know, that really is where we’re at is, you know, every two or three years, you know, finding something new moving forward being more ambitious. And, and really that is, you know, that’s kind of the way the world is now,
David Ralph [32:55]
I actually think that this role that I’m doing now, is absolutely my strengths. I think it’s my unique path. And I actually I’m now 44 years old, I think I started this path. When I was 16. I remember the very first day I went to my first job, which was a large city office in up in London, and I walked up the steps. And I thought to myself, I’ve only been here six months. And then six months went into 15 years. And even all the way through that time, there was always something I was doing. It was a nice kind of before online. So first of all, I wanted to be a pop star. And then I wanted to be a writer. And then I wanted to be something else. And there was always something channelling my efforts away from my short career. And it can you get your second half of your life can start at any time, Connor, it doesn’t have to be at 1622 24, you could be 70 and suddenly have that moment where you think to yourself, this is why I need happened to your career. Visa guys, for me, I’m changing direction. I don’t really know what I want. Do I just know that I don’t want to do what I’m doing?
Well, it’s so true. Because you know, Scott, you and I have we’ve had emails that we’ve got from people where they’re in their 50s. And I think you know, David, exactly what you said, I don’t think anybody ever intends on staying somewhere for 15 years. But it’s easy to let the time just kind of go by. And it’s easy to say oh, well, you know, next week all I’ll start doing what I’m passionate about, or next year when this is right, or That’s right, then I will chase that dream I’ve always had. And the problem with that is one day you wake up and you are you’re 50 or 60 or 70. And, and you wonder where did the last 40 years ago, and you never want Scott to do what you really love to do. And to me that’s tragic. You know, and that’s, that’s just sad. And I’m really trying not to do that. And what we’re trying to do is encourage people not to do that.
David Ralph [34:49]
But um, we had a Oh, no, go ahead. Scott
was gonna say quick example of that is we had
early on, when we when we first were getting started, it was the most amazing because people were coming out of the woodwork to be able to help us with different things and just, you know, people that we wouldn’t have expected didn’t know, so on and so forth. And I’m still constantly amazed by that and appreciative of that. But, you know, one one woman in particular, she was semi local, she’s in Washington State. And she just somehow found out about us, I don’t even know how exactly, and she went on. And she proof read everything on the website for us, I guess in a past life. She was, yeah, yeah, she was a editor for a newspaper or something along those lines. And she went through her entire website and proof read and sent us all of these changes and everything. And it’s like, wow, that was, you know, I guess some people could have looked at that and said, Wow, you’re ruining, I don’t know, whatever. But I looked at it and said, That’s amazing, I would have to pay somebody a whole bunch of money to be able to do that, you know, proofread all the copy and make corrections. And so I was just thrilled to pieces. So we started an email dialogue back and forth, and just found out a little bit about her. And then, as a thank you, I sent her a book. And I didn’t hear from her for six months. And she sent me an email that reference some of our other dialogue about hey, you’re, you know, it’s never too late to start, you know, you’ve got to start with where you’re at, and make the move to things that you really want to be doing. And when she emailed me six months later, she let me know that she had made the decision that she wanted to take a completely different pathway. And I think she was in her 50s or maybe even early 60s. And she was going to go spend time in in Africa. And she had some savings and had a plan to be able to earn some income while she was down there. But really, her heart fell into being able to help different folks for different causes and in Africa. And that’s what she wanted to spend her life doing. And she developed this, this entire plan to be able to do that and make a living at the same time. And that was just amazing to me. And that was a perfect example of what marks talking about.
David Ralph [36:57]
I applaud her, I don’t know, lady, but she is exactly the kind of woman that we want out there. Because you know, my avatar really that I’m aiming for. And I keep saying this in the shows, if you’re in a job, and you like the job and you enjoy the people around you. Brilliant, go there and just do it better than you’ve ever done before, because you’re going to gain so much more from it by putting all your energies in. But if you’re not, and you’re just getting through to the paycheck, or you’re getting through to the weekend, when you can go down the pub and stand in a circle with other miserable people having a beer moaning about your situation, do something about it, because you can do something about it. And it’s not as frightening as you may think it’s writing if you look at the big picture, but then just look at a small picture, and then almost look at a big picture from a long way away, I don’t know. But you just have to move forward in bite sized chunks, what you’re trying to do guys is change the world, what I’m trying to do is a similar thing, if I actually think about what I’m trying to do, I can’t do it is too big for me. And I can’t see the steps responsible for actually fulfilling my dream or my requirement. So I just do one thing, and then that moves me to the next thing. And the next thing and the next thing and when I started, it was just Can I get five episodes out. Now, I’m coming out to sort of 70 episodes, and 90 episodes and all those kind of things. It’s amazing what you can do, just by following those dots, isn’t it?
It is amazing. And, you know, we’ve sort of adopted this similar mentality that really you can only the way that you change the world, or the way that you do anything, is one person at a time. So you know, when we sat down last November, and we were looking at, you know, what do we what do we consider success? For what do we want to do? What do we the impact that we want to have, by the time the next following November rolls around, one of the things that was on there is we just want to be able to impact 10 people just 10 people in a in a way that makes a significant difference in their lives. And, you know, that was that was one of the goals that we have listed on here, I’m actually in, you know, I’m in my home office home studio. And we still have that paper on the wall that we wrote out and very colourful marker and everything. But yeah, that just having that focus helps helps with each day. because like you said, you know, you start with one podcast, or you start with seven podcasts. And then you make your way up to the 70 or so that you’ve done at this point, which is just downright phenomenal.
David Ralph [39:37]
What I’m going to do, I’m going to play something that is phenomenal. And this is the words of Steve Jobs, and that it really does link but shows, because these are words, but in their essence of so simple, but actually, every time I listen to them, I come from a different angle. And generally I will listen to them and think to myself, okay, he’s talking about trusting yourself and taking action. And then the next time I listened to it, I think I can see it from a different way. So I’m going to play these words now. And then I’m going to ask you guys, whether they’re relevant to your life and whether you think were relevant to all people’s lives. This is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [40:12]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [40:47]
Because you two guys aren’t just off the well worn path, you’re actually creating your own path on you, which is in its own ways a lot more difficult. So there are those words relevant to you.
Oh, my gosh, they are I’m listening to that and just thinking how relevant they are. You know, I that’s been the storey of my life I I when I was in a job that I absolutely hated. And no hate is not too strong of a word. At this point. I did hate it. I caught myself so many times. And and so many people in our audience are in the same place where they absolutely hate what they’re doing. And they you know, they get that. You know, David, I don’t know if you were ever in this position. But I was in a position. I know Scott, and I’ve talked about this. And he was as well where literally, my weekend would end it like Sunday at two o’clock. Because at that point, I started getting in a bad mood. I started literally not feeling well, because I didn’t want to go to work so bad. And at that point in time, it’s hard to look at that and say, how is this helping me mine still right now?
About 505? Absolutely.
No, I have to go back Monday, you know, but when you’re in those situations, it is so hard to realise and to see any light at the end of the tunnel. It’s so hard to know, or realise that you’re going to learn anything or get anything out of this. But as I look back, as I, as I connect the dots, as Steve Jobs says, I realised that I would not be where I am today. Without having gone through that situation. You know, I’m in a position now where I get to tell that storey all the time and And what if I hadn’t had that horrible job? What if I hadn’t had that job that I was absolutely miserable. And I wouldn’t be able to connect with people now. And be able to make the impact that I hope I’m having, without having that sort of experience to you know, bind me together, I guess and to make me a kindred spirit with so many people that we talked to you. Because I can say I know what it’s like I’ve been there. And, you know, that’s what I would say to everybody is is like Steve Jobs says when you’re in it, you don’t realise how it’s going to connect, and you have no idea. But the key is, like he says is to follow your heart and do what you want to do. And if you’ll do that, you’ll look back and say, Wow, that’s why it happened. Or Wow, that’s why I did that. Or Wow, that that led me to this which led me to this, which led me to this which led me to what I really want like to do and what I really love doing. And you know, that’s that’s what we tell people is you don’t always get there tomorrow. But you have to start on that path. And you have to be trying to get there. Because if you don’t, you’re never going to get there, you
David Ralph [43:11]
have to really be focused on that. And quite often you have big dot, your major dot that really pushes you on is the worst time of your life, isn’t it?
It is and I hate I hate admitting that.
David Ralph [43:24]
Because my my big God. And I’ve said this on numerous episodes, and probably on episode one or two, I was a lot more tactful about this, but uh, my big.in life. And now I’m proceeding into my 40 episodes and 50 episodes and whatever. And I was working for a job and I liked it. It was all I was I was floating, you know, I was I could do it me I shot. And then my manager change. And I had this new lady to come in who was a cow. And she was dreadful. And I just could not work with her. And my whole spirit went and tiny, we’re back. I had I was sitting at a desk thinking, How can one person dictate my happiness, when she’s here, I’m not happy when she’s not here. Everything’s fine. And I just sort of float along. And it was that realisation. But hang on, I’m always going to be in this situation until I take control of it myself. That was my big dot. And once I hit that big dot, never going back guys, if it doesn’t pan out, I don’t know what I’m doing. But my God, I’m going to make sure that this pans out because this is my future.
I can I just throw in something here.
David Ralph [44:37]
That was profound silence, I was pleased with that one.
I’m not afraid of the silence. I’ll jump in and cut it I guess. But I, I love what you are doing, David and I completely agree with you, when you say that you have found some of those things that are your strengths that really line up and it comes across and it shows because, you know we you’re talking about your unique abilities or your authentic self or your natural strengths, or we call them your signature strengths over at happened your career, you know, those are the things that quite frankly, you can you can do much better than other people and you really truly enjoy at the same time. And it’s clear, when I I’ve listened to a couple other shows. And then, you know, also my experience today, it’s clear that you really truly enjoy this and are having fun and are naturally gifted at some of the things that are required to be an interviewer and a host and a podcaster. And, you know, and move other people in this direction. So I really appreciate that, you know, as I guess you could say, expert or professional since that’s kind of kind of what we do.
David Ralph [45:48]
So nicely done, sir. I really appreciate that. That means the world to me, because in many ways in an environment like this, it’s so fast and the content is washed out. But you don’t get a lot of feedback. I find it comes in little flurries. And I suddenly get two or three emails are coming up. Oh, yeah. Okay, I’m why I’m on the right track. And just we’re actually changing the theme tune. The theme tune, if you go back and they will be is the only part of the shows I’m going to edit off. The very beginning ones is kind of like a guitar guy. Welcome to you Join Up Dots. It was a kind of chatty little. That’s pretty good. It wasn’t bad was it? That was good. That was my Uber light green day, that was my Green Day impression there. And I liked the theme tune. And it is only that I started getting feedback from people who are more advanced with me saying you’re missing a trick here. The content is powerful. The content is inspirational. And you’re bookmarking it with something that is light hearted and flipping. You’ve got to get something which is powerful. And that’s why you can hear the sort of new intros. And I’m putting on now and it’s the only changes I’m going to make to the show. Because I really wanted everyone to listen and hear the progression. And I wanted them to hear. But Episode One is not as good as Episode 10. And Episode 10 isn’t as good as Episode 30. And there’s going to be some episodes in the middle. But I miss a beat. And it just doesn’t quite work for some reason. But I wanted people to see the journey and go Yes, I can see but he wasn’t very good, fair, I could be better than he was at the beginning. I’m going to give it a go. And do you find that with yourself a lot of people that come to you looking for career advice, are actually benchmarking themselves against people that are hugely ahead of them more than people that are a couple of steps ahead of them.
Oh, yeah, I still do this, I do this. I try not to do this actually, in some cases, I listened to less podcast than what I used to. Because I I can get myself into a funk real quickly. If I’m listening two people that I consider way ahead of me. And it’s like why am you know, you ask all the silly questions of yourself, you know, why? Why am I not there? What am I doing wrong? Whatever, all those other things and, and I think everybody goes through that to some degree. If you’re not, then you know, maybe there’s a different problem. But yeah, we certainly certainly get that in a variety of different capacities. And it’s that comparison bias
David Ralph [48:25]
one once you went try to limit ourselves, why because that that is not rational. If If you set a whole room of people down and said to them, okay, I want you to be instantly as good as Richard Branson. Not one person is going to go, I can do that. But actually, when they’re quiet in their own world listening to things, we all kind of think yes, that’s where I should be. That’s what you know, I’m at this age, I should already be where Richard Branson is. I should already be with Scott Barlow and Marc Seaver crop. Ah, but it’s not rational isn’t it can’t be rational. No one can become a professional footballer, overnight. It’s practice, practice, practice. Mm hmm.
I, you know, you’re absolutely right. And I think what it seems to happen, and I do this, and I think we all do it, like you said is, we always compare our weaknesses to other people’s strengths, rather than looking at what our strengths are. And you know, this is something that we talk a lot about and happen to your career and, and one of the things that we go through as people and we’re helping them find out what they want to do is we say, look, you, you’ve spent so much time telling me telling me what you don’t want to do, and you’re looking at what your weaknesses are and what you don’t want. What you need to do is validate those things, say, Okay, yeah, I’m not good at this. I’m not as good at this as Richard Branson is. However, I am good in these areas. And it’s being true to yourself and not trying to be somebody else not trying to be, you know, David, Ralph, not trying to be Richard Branson, but trying to be the best Marc Seaver crop I can be, and realising that, that’s good enough, that’s okay. And until you do that, you’re never ever, ever going to be happy, you’re not gonna do what you’re passionate about? Because I found that most of us do in our lives what somebody else wanted us to do. I mean, how many people do you talk to that? They get to being 45, or 50, or 60, and they’ve been a doctor for 30 years, and then you find out the only reason they became a doctor, is because their grandpa thought that being a doctor was the best thing you could do. And that was a prestigious job, that had nothing to do with them wanting to be a doctor. And I think so many times we we hang our hat on what other people want or what other people will approve of, that we never get to do what we want to do. And we limit ourselves because of it. And we we try to make people happy rather than making ourselves happy.
David Ralph [50:32]
Here’s a good question for you. I was thinking this as he was talking quite eloquently, my mind was into the next question. Now, we benchmark ourselves against other people and we contrast our weaknesses to other people’s strengths. Is there any strengths that Scott Scott mark, but you look at and you think I would like for others? And Scott the same to mark?
Well, he’s much better looking. And I wish No, I one of the the things that really impresses me about Scott and I, I’m really grateful for it is Scott’s a lot more blunt than I am, Scott is able, like we’ve said over and over again to in a very loving way to basically say, no, that’s not going to work, or no, we shouldn’t do that. Or you’re not being honest with yourself. And and I really appreciate that. That’s a very marketable skill. And it’s a very useful skill for being successful. And that’s something that I really wish I had.
And Scott, I think for Mark is, is I and I’ve told mark this numerous times, but yeah, there’s there’s a couple of things that he does, first of all, he has this insane ability to connect with, with different people and connect with many people. And it’s something that he truly enjoys connecting in a whole variety of different ways. So yeah, I is I, you know, kind of monitor some of his social media stuff and and, you know, just see his name pop up from time to time and like, How on earth is he in all these places, talking to all these different people and it all and having all of these different conversations is like I can barely, you know, get this one thing out on Twitter or whatever. But you know, whether it’s social media or other conversations mark is always connecting with somebody because that’s part of who he is. And as part of something that he enjoys, truly, and having and building those relationships, he’s just very naturally good at in a variety of ways. But the other thing, this, this is the one that drives me insane. So this guy can put out an epic blog post in like 20 minutes, like just writing the content, and then you know, maybe another 20 minutes or something to actually get it up and get everything else out there. And it takes me like eight hours, to put out the same quality of things. So his writing abilities are amazing. I was, I truly got that after he sent me the first draught of his book, project success, as we were getting it ready for Amazon and everything like that I that was the in time where it really hit me, as I read through that draught is like, wow, this guy is really good. Not only is he quick, but this guy is really good. It’s just something that comes natural to him. But part of that is because he’s put a lot of time and effort into practising.
David Ralph [53:16]
And it is You shouldn’t have it’s as simple as that, isn’t it? It is practice is just down to practice.
I guess, I don’t think I disagree.
A little bit going, going, I mean, you want to be in the if you want to be in the NBA, and you are three foot nine, you can practice as much as you want. And you’ve got a significant disadvantage doesn’t mean it’s impossible. But you’ve got a significant disadvantage,
David Ralph [53:45]
I’ve got a lovely me to both MBA, that’d be amazing.
Well, that might be a whole new venture, but but I mean, you get the point that there’s some things that you are naturally suited for, and there is no reason denied those things that are you naturally suited for, especially if you enjoy them. And that’s where, you know, that’s where you find those signature strengths. And those things that make you authentically you. And people go through their entire lives sometimes without understanding that without identifying that. And it’s partially because it’s really, really, really difficult to do that the pain of staying in the same place and tolerating where you’re at even though you don’t enjoy it is a lot less sometimes than the short term pain of, you know, doing the hard work to figuring out you know, figure out what it is that you truly can be great at, and then making the moves to get there. Well, that
David Ralph [54:43]
the strap line up the show the tagline is connecting our past to build our future. Because I totally believe and after so many conversations with people, pretty much to men and women. They agree with me they agree with me, Scott, hear that. Okay. Justin, it goes the different way that right?
David Ralph [55:03]
getting the market Mr. Barlow here. And they all say to me, yes. When I actually hit my part, when I hit my door, when I looked back, when I connected those dots, join those dots, whatever. All the things that I’m doing now, were the kind of things that I knew I could do. I knew I enjoyed, but because they were so easy, I didn’t think I could group them together to make a career, or that the kicker, the one that really sort of gets me is the ones that they go, because it was so easy. I didn’t think I could charge for it. So I couldn’t make a career out of it.
Yeah. You know, I, it goes back to and, you know, David, I think you’re hitting on a common theme here that it seems like, and and really, this is what the first part of my book is about is we limit ourselves. It’s not anybody else. In this day and age, there’s so much technology, there’s so much opportunity, no one limits you except for yourself. It’s your own mindset. And it’s your own limitations that you place on yourself, they keep you from doing what you want to do, it’s not anybody else. And once you realise that in your life, it opens up this whole realm of possibilities. I mean, the heavens open again, that the unicorns peek around the corner, is this show going to be titled, like, you know, looking for the unicorns in your life, I’m gonna
David Ralph [56:14]
have that as a title. Promise.
I think that’ll get downloads. But
um, you know, we’re bringing you down really is.
I’m okay with
the whole thing all the way down to the title of the show will be mocking you just see, you know,
as long as it gets David the download, that’s it, that’s the key thing, take one for the T,
that’s the consummate, that’s a consummate person of service right there. But as, as you realise that and realise that you’re the only one holding yourself back, it’s amazing what you’re able to do. It’s amazing the things that open up and the the ideas you have, and the plans you can make. Because you realise that there really isn’t the challenges in front of you, they think they are, it’s all in your mind, it’s all in your head, Your the one telling yourself, you’re not good enough to be like Richard Branson, you’re the one that’s telling yourself that you can’t charge for whatever it is that you’re good at, those are the things that are holding you back not not that somebody literally hasn’t paid you for those things, or wouldn’t be willing to pay you for those things. It’s just in your mind. And I see that over and over again, that it’s always every time we talk to people, it’s like they’re stopping themselves. And if they would just, you know, stop and get out of their own way, they would be able to do what they love, and they would have such a fulfilling life that they can’t even fathom. Right now.
We were getting so many emails about what you’re talking about David about, you know, having struggles connecting those dots and joining up those dots, that we ended up making a free email course to help people specifically with some of those barriers. Yeah. And it’s, we didn’t do that that long ago, actually. And it’s been pretty amazing the feedback that we’ve gotten from it. But people were really struggling and looking to the past and identity, define what the strengths are, and how to connect those together, just like you said, and and this ends up being a barrier. And to Mark’s point, you know, we only limit ourselves. So we’re like, well, how can we help people remove some of that barrier? So we literally put together a course to help that help make that happen? Well, I’m going to ask you about that just after
David Ralph [58:19]
this very last part, because this is the part called the Sermon on the mic. And this is when one of you and I’m going to choose who should I choose Marco Scott, I’m going to leave it up to you guys to choose. But I’m going to send you back in time, like a young, better looking Marty McFly, to have a one on one with yourself. And if you could go into a room and be sit down next to a younger version, 11 year old, a five year old a 20 year old it could be a couple of weeks ago. Or it could could be like an hour ago and you’d go Don’t do it. Don’t go on that show. Go back to bed. What would you say? And what advice would you give? So I’m going to play the music now when it fades out. One of you is on the mic. This is the Sermon on the mike.
We go with
Did we choose? I’m really interested in in all right,
take it away.
You know, I have to say before I start this, David, that, you know, you mentioned that most people start this by talking to themselves. And I wondered if that was a prerequisite. So I guess that’s how I’m gonna start to
So you’re in a job that you absolutely hate. And the first thing I would tell you is it changes so much faster than you think it would. I know you wake up every day right now you’re miserable. You can’t wait to get home, which doesn’t happen till late at night. And then you’re up early in the morning again, I get it, I understand. And you just have to keep going. And you have to keep doing what you’re doing. You have to keep striving to do and find work that you love. And when you look back, I promise it’s going to happen so quick. And you’re going to say Wow, that was quick that I wasn’t in that position that long. But as you’re in that position, here’s the things that I would tell you to do. These things will make your life so much easier in the coming years. work on yourself, do the things that you need to do to get your life in order. Learn how to live on a schedule, learn how to plan, learn how to connect with people learn how to do all of those things that don’t require anybody else except for yourself. And if you’ll do those things, now when you get to this next part in your life, you will have such the advantage on everybody else, because I found that the things that make you successful or not the the big things, it’s not making the million dollar deals, it’s not doing all of those things, that things that will make you successful, it’s being able to manage yourself, being able to manage email, being able to manage relationships, being able to plan your day, and do what you plan to do. Those are the types of things that if you have them in line right now, when the opportunities come, you’ll be able to take them and you’ll be able to run with those opportunities. And you will be successful beyond anything you believe. But most all, I would tell you to find people that can support you find those people that are that are determined to make you successful that wants to help you that wants to encourage you and add value to your life. And be around them as much as possible. Whether that’s online, whether that’s in person, be around them and make sure that you are always listening to them and always trying to help them as well. And if you will have that support group, you will find that it will come up, come back and help you instal many ways you can’t even imagine. So those are the most important things I would tell you right now is to keep going keep your head up. It’ll happen quicker than you want it to build relationships and work on yourself and do the things you need to do in order to lay the foundation for being successful.
David Ralph [1:02:15]
Hopping that’s an absolute master class. Do you Scott.
I agree that was that was amazing.
I’m really glad I didn’t go now because I was not going to put out anything that amazing.
David Ralph [1:02:28]
We both awesome Lucci we both salute you, man, we we tip our hat to you.
As you were as you were
David Ralph [1:02:34]
just before you go guys, how can all the listeners who’s sitting here and they’re listening to Scott and listening to mark or listening to mark and Scott who gets top billing Who?
Scott? Yeah, he doesn’t matter. It’s Scott, I say mark and Scott is always the one who
David Ralph [1:02:48]
says it doesn’t matter who gets the top billing, do you know that? That’s right.
So I’m happy
David Ralph [1:02:54]
where How can people connect with you.
So you can find us on happened to your career.com that’s that’s kind of where everything centres around, we’ve got multiple websites and multiple things going on. But that’s that’s where everything centres around happen to your career.com. Or you can certainly connect up with us, you know, via Twitter via LinkedIn, we get lots of people reaching out to us on LinkedIn. Just about any place where friends are made, you will find us there
I prefer carrier pigeon, but it has, Twitter will work, the smaller bird will work but Carrey, one of
these days, you’re going to get somebody sending you.
Weird, it’s gonna be awkward, and I’m not going to know what to do with it, you’re not going to know. So you know, for everything that it the online email course that we were just talking about, you know, you can find that it happened your career calm under one stop. And actually as of as of last night, in fact, we just just launched a membership site, the work you love, one stop to be able to help people make those transitions for us where you’re at, you know, with that support, and with that knowledge and you know, with a lot of the training that we offer, to where it is that you want to go, and and do so. So we’re really, really excited about that. And certainly find out more about that there too.
David Ralph [1:04:16]
Well, I would like to have more people in the world like YouTube, because you really are coming from it from the right angle. Yes, you can be providing for your family. Yes, hopefully you’re going to be Uber successful. But at the bottom of it, you’re trying to provide value and help people and I think that’s what, what it’s all about, isn’t it. So thank you so much for spending time with us today joining up the lingo. And, David, for both of you please come back again when you have more dots to join up because that’s the beauty of this show keeps on going forward, and your histories keep on progressing. And as I believe the only way to build our futures is by connecting our past Scott and Mark, thank you so much.
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