Internet Mastery Expert Ian Pribyl Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Internet Mastery With Ian Pribyl
Internet mastery is the discussion of the day with Ian Pribyl, who is todays guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots podcast.
He is a man who quite simply has mastered and can fully explain how to start cracking it online.
The reason I know this?
I have been reading his new book “From Nothing” how to start your online business for less than $100.
This book is full of quick and useful tips and advice that take you all the way through finding your idea, to making your sales flow effortlessly.
As he says “FIMP (which stands for the Free Internet Marketing Project) is a passion project of mine.
How The Dots Joined Up For Ian
It was born out of an industry full of scammers who were cleaning out consumers’ life savings under the promise of “getting rich quick”
I created FIMP to empower online business seekers and save them from having to purchase any more “make money online” products.
FIMP teaches everything a person needs to know — from absolutely zero knowledge to building a successful, profitable internet business.
Now with a history that started a a bartender, and meandered through a series of sales and customer service roles he has taken what works offline and detailed it brilliantly as an online resource.
Get your idea, do your market research, define the product the list goes on and on.
So does he have a history of online failures and successes throughout his life, or did he hit a home run straight away.
And where does he see most people go wrong? Aiming for a bar that’s too high, or one too narrow with no room to expand.
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Ian Pribyl
During the show we discussed such deep subjects with Ian Pribyl such as:
Why it is so important to understand the core essence of what makes any business such by value.
Forget about metrics and financial goals and focus on goals that you can monitor and master.
Why Ian feels the level of connection has increased online. People aren’t sitting behind an automation.
Why so many people miss the opportunities that their lives have given them which can be turned into a business opportunity.
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Full Transcription Of Ian Pribyl Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:24]
Yes, hello there. Good morning to you. Good morning to you and good morning to you. Yes, that little person there yet. Yeah, you the one picking your nose? Yes. Yeah, that’s a nasty habit. Stop that. But that’s the one I’m talking to. Good morning to you. And thank you for being here. On the Join Up Dots show. Today’s guest is gonna be great because he is somebody who can deliver such good value that complements what we’re doing at Join Up Dots trying to give you a pathway to a future that you could have. If you put in the work, you know how to do it, and you trust that it works. He is a man who quite simply has mastered and can potty explain how to start cracking it online. And the reason I know this, I’ve been reading his new book from nothing how to start your online business for less than $100. Now this book is full of quick and useful tips and advice that takes you all the way through from finding your idea to making your sales flow effortlessly. As he says pimp which stands for a pre internet marketing project. I thought it was like a female GIMP when I first read that is as a passion project at ease. And it was born out of an industry full of scammers who were cleaning out consumers life savings under the promise of getting rich quick. Now he created them to empower online business seekers and save them from having to purchase any more make money online products. It teaches everything a person needs to know from absolutely zero knowledge to building a successful profitable internet business. Now with a history that started as a bartender and meandered through a series of sales and customer service roles. He has taken what works offline and detailed it brilliantly as an online resource your go to guide, get your idea, do your market research define the product that list goes on and on and on. So does he have a history of online failures and successes throughout his life? Like most of us, or did he hit a home run straight away? And where does he see most people go wrong? aiming for a bar that’s too high, or one too narrow? With no room to expand? Well, let’s find out as we bring them to the show, to start joining up dots with the one and only Mr. Ian Pribyl. Morning, and how are you?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [2:36]
That was fantastic. I can’t believe I didn’t have to pay for that. I feel really good. I just need you to follow me around. everywhere I go.
David Ralph [2:43]
I used to do that a lot. But now a lot of people are sort of restraining orders on me. And so I can do it from about 15 feet away if that’s okay for you. That sounds great. I will do that. I tell you what I’m gonna do. I’ve got your book in front of me. And it’s called strong napping, Ian pribyl achieve bedtime success in online business. We are going to read this. And I have to be honest, right at the very start. I’ve been reading it in bed, as I say. And I’ve been laughing out loud, not because of the content. But because you know, when you read something and you think, yes, that’s it, I was an idiot. It seems like so obvious. Now, once I have achieved what I’ve achieved, but at the time you detail brilliantly, the kind of things that will trip people up, which we of course will go through. But I want to start with a quote that you said to me because this really speaks to where I am personally at the moment and where I want the Join Up Dots audience to get to Okay, and this is you sent me a guy called Seneca Okay, and this is the quote you sent. And I want to touch in how this really applies to online business as well. true happiness is to enjoy the present without anxious dependence upon the future, not to amuse ourselves with either hopes or fears, but to rest satisfied with what we have, which is sufficient that he that is so once nothing, the greatest blessings of mankind are within us and within our reach. A wise man is content with these lot, whatever it may be without wishing, but what he has not. Now I read that. And it speaks to me massively, because I’m fortunate now but I’m at a point where I’m not comparing to anybody. I’m just doing what I have to do, I have achieved a certain amount of success. And it’s enough for me, and I’m perfectly in that sort of demographic. Are you always that one of those words that you wish you were touching on? Or are you in that same position as I am?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [4:41]
I definitely am in that same position and i think it’s it’s a you know, to add on to that a little bit too. I think someone could hear that and and think, oh, that means stop growing. That means stop pushing. And what I find really interesting is the kind of almost dichotomy gated by being an entrepreneur who is still pushing and still growing, and still looking to achieve more, because we still have, hopefully a lot of years left on this earth. And while also being content with what you currently have, and not just constantly longing for more, which is a horizon that always moves, because
David Ralph [5:22]
out of your reach, because I’m in a situation at the moment in where it’s about simplicity, where, when you’re starting an online business, you end up with a kind of mess, where there’s little bits here, done, little bits of hair done, and then you get something going and then you start developing that income stream. And there’s a lot of bit sort of rubbish. Now, as I’ve gone through it, I realised that simplicity is the key to success, and how much can I strip away all the bells and whistles, the the email marketing, the LinkedIn, the Facebook, and all the kinds of things that you think you have to have to actually get to the core essence of what a business is. Now, I’m going to ask you a quite a profound question. And I’m not known to being profound, I have to be honest. But I’m going to ask you, what do you think the core essence of an online business actually is? That makes it fly?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [6:15]
Oh, that’s a very good question. I would say it, it holds true. through online business and a traditional brick and mortar, any kind of business you can build, I am a true subscriber to the idea that, for the most part, the thing that makes a business succeed is the value it brings to the world I read years ago, no, I so far back, no idea where I read it, but it like and it basically said you can measure your financial worth and your financial value in the world by the amount of value you are putting out into the world as a creator as a business owner. And I’ve certainly not every affiliate marketer or digital marketer approaches the industry with this same kind of mantra, this the same idea. Because if that were the case, we wouldn’t have so much spam on the internet. Yeah. But for me, personally, I have always seen, affiliate marketing is where I, you know, was kind of raised up. And of course, I’ve grown a lot since then into my own endeavours and the co founder of a startup. But all of the way back then I thought, what a neat way to essentially get paid to deliver value to an audience. And the more value I deliver, the better relationship I build. And the better I build that relationship, the more my recommendations actually land and mean something and as long as I’m not turning in those recommendations that are strictly about getting the largest commission as possible. It’s something that not only helps me through a commission but helps them solve the problem or answer the question or ease the pain point they’re facing in life. That’s a really cool relationship that’s very beneficial for all parties. And that was true for affiliate marketing. It was true when I was running e commerce stores as well, and still running e commerce stores. And definitely still true now as I work through our startup that I co founded in the optometry and optical space as well.
David Ralph [8:26]
So as we start this conversation, looking at how to create online success, one of the things that we’ve got to forget about is it’s not online success for you. It’s simply how to create online value.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [8:39]
Hmm, absolutely. I think that’s really key. And I think it’s so easily overlooked. One of the things I struggle with in this industry is there. So obviously, there are so many product publishers out there. And this is such a critical, like foundational element that really deserves to be drilled into anyone trying to enter this industry. And it’s not, it’s so it’s so rarely mentioned up front. I mean, you’re talking far less than 10% of people who are running communities and selling products in this space. And I find that really, really interesting and I don’t know if it’s because it’s it’s just become so foundational to us that it’s one of those things that’s really easily overlooked. Or in the instance of many product publishers, they just don’t even know they’ve never like evaluated and broken it down to its its key components and the elements that truly made them successful enough to reverse engineer it and teach it to their audience as well. But I really do think the more you focus on that, and the more that kind of drives, you know, becomes your your mo as a marketer and as an online business owner, the more successful you’re going to be.
David Ralph [9:53]
Now I look back on some of my early days and it was just screaming buy, buy. I didn’t give a monkey’s as I was raised. You know, it was literally I just wanted to make money. And I look back on it, and I think it was never gonna work. And you can just see. And that’s one of the reasons why I was saying I was laughing at some of the things that you write about because they’re so right. They’re so obvious, okay. And one of the ones that I’m touching on was and up, yes, this is good. So I’m gonna bring it up. When you start an online business, your expectations, and one of the things you say in the book is don’t set monetary expectations, but set goals that you can achieve. Because if you don’t make the money, then you kind of get billed dispirited. And you sort of move on. Was that something that you’ve learned from the beginning? Or did you go, oh, if I’m not making 1000 squillion dollars, by Friday, I’m going to give up on this.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [10:46]
You know, I think it’s something that kind of grew in me over the years. And a realisation, I would say, where this really stems from is encountering a lot of dissatisfaction, a lot of disappointments. over many years, we’re talking north of a decade of just constantly setting these goals that I didn’t even recognise were bad goals. They weren’t goals that set me up for success, because I was setting goals for things that I didn’t truly have control over, I could put everything out into the world, I could bust my butt, and, and do as much as I could create content, market that content, promote that content, whatever those goals are, I control that. Internet mastery. I don’t control how Google responds to it, I don’t control how my market responds to it, my audience responds to it. I don’t control those things. And so we have a tendency, because our end goal is blank. We set that as as our goal. But I think it’s it set someone up much more for success, to reverse engineer that look at what the elements are that potentially produce that results. That goal you’re you’re striving for and focus on the elements, you hands on control, and judge your success or failure and iterate and adjust based on those rather than something that’s completely out of your control.
David Ralph [12:03]
I was just on a podcast. I don’t really go on other people’s podcasts. But I went onto this guy’s and I was talking to him about David Attenborough. Do you know David Attenborough the English? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, well, he’s 93 now, and he was talking about overfishing. And he was talking about hotspots where the fish all breed, and everything’s wonderful. And if you just put your rod in vain, you’re gonna get a fish. And then people know that and then they exhaust that, and they kill the market. And I just have to keep on moving on. And I was watching this a while back. And I was thinking to myself, why instead of going into Facebook, and LinkedIn, and Pinterest, and all this kind of stuff, why don’t you go to where the hotspots are, where to work out where the customer wants you most. And the Epiphany I had, I’d be interested in your view on this was not to think about when somebody asks you how to peel an apple start thinking about why are they asking to how to peel an apple, what is their actual end goal and reverse engineering it. And then you start to bind, success and value comes together twice as quick because you’re actually asking the right questions at the beginning, before you start building your products and your coaching or whatever you want to do. Does that make sense to you?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [13:22]
I think it makes perfect sense. And and I think, of course, that’s a very transactional example. But I wouldn’t want people to overlook how critical This is. Because if you can really take that step back and step into the mind of your audience at that level, one of the things I found as you do get to the point, as a digital marketer, of any kind or online business owner, you’re going to need to sell something at some point, almost certainly, whether that’s your own profit product or someone else’s product or service. And the more you step back and understand what led them there, you understand their pains, their emotions, the psyche, the more you are going to be able to relate to and help that person and influence them. And I think influence kind of has, tends to have an inherently negative connotation. But that’s only because we’re so used to people using influence in a way that is good drives us to take actions that are not in our best interest. But influence is absolutely critical if you’re truly trying to help someone in your audience as well. And the more you step back and you understand the kind of preconceptions and the thought processes and the the pains and emotions like you just said that are leading them to enter that search brace, the more you’re going to be able to connect with them, build that relationship with them, and ultimately build that trust that is necessary in order to properly, again, influence them to have the conversion event that not only helps your business and keeps you in business and keeps you providing value to people, but helps them as well solve their problem or ease their pain point.
David Ralph [15:14]
Now, with business opportunities best, so plentiful, you literally get out of bed and fall over 15 of them by the time you pick your slippers up, if you’re laser focused on those business opportunities. Now, I know that so many people aren’t trained to see things, they aren’t trained to think that the book they’re holding in their hand is actually a business, somebody’s made money from it. The the iPhone that they’re holding, when they’re listening to a podcast is a business. Now, how can we know this down? Because I know you’ve done some great sort of niche exercises on here, but how can we at least get them to start seeing the plentiful abundant opportunities that they can tap into? Because it’s a real blind spot for people? Isn’t it here?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [16:02]
It is? That’s a really great question. I think a lot of it as much as this is kind of a non answer. And I’ll dig deeper after I say this, but
David Ralph [16:13]
so I give non questions. And so you, you go with known answers, and we’ll be fine.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [16:19]
Yeah, this will be a great interview by the end of it. So we you know, I think it’s one of those things that you get better with, with practice. And you just begin to notice inherently, the more you were in this industry, like anything, you kind of orient to it more when it’s actually happening to you, or it’s taking place, I would say basically anything you punch into Google, you should be tuning into, hey, wow, you know, I’m connecting with business owners here. Any search raise any curiosity you have, on some level, someone, excuse me, is probably making money off of that particular search or that function. And and part of that relationship, whether that’s as simple as advertising dollars, because you’re going into reading information on their website, or they’re referring you over to a product to answer your question. And the most obvious ones are ones where you are, you take a step back, if you can be mindful enough, take a step back, when you pick up your phone, or you sit down at your computer, and you go, I have this need, and I’m searching for a product. Those are the ones that especially for affiliate marketers, or product manufacturers, if you want to take it that far, and get that get that deep into the business. really see a tonne of value and a tonne of revenue a tonne of earning potential, I should say,
David Ralph [17:43]
because I’ve got a toilet seat that slides when you sit down on it, okay. And, and it seems to be a problem, because I’ve mentioned it to people that in the old days when I was a kid, you sat on the toilet, it was fair, it just stayed there. But now they seem to break really quickly. And the amount of people have said to me, Oh, we’ve got two toilets at home, they both slide they both there. And I think there’s a business, you only have to sort that out. And then you’ve got a business. And it is all those things that when you talk to people and they go, Oh, yeah, we’ve got bad and oh, wouldn’t it be good? If it does that? You just have to get it into your head. Now where the issue that I’ve got here is that it’s still like it’s insanity switch. I’ve got so many sort of ideas popping into my head where people are talking to me, and I think, Oh, yeah, I could do that. I could do that. But literally, I’d be buying a domain name a minute. Just it just in case. Do you have that issue as well? I’ll use somebody that is very good looking at that, that quote, but we we discussed at the beginning, or sort of focusing in on what is important, are you able to separate all those ideas and think, okay, it’s an idea, but it’s not important for me at the moment.
Unknown Speaker [18:53]
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [18:54]
absolutely have. And for me, it was a matter of survival because I wasn’t, I was so far from that I was just devoured by shiny object syndrome. And every time I had a new niche idea, I had a new niche idea by no American say a poorly. So I knew niche idea or I just anything would light me up and I go register a domain name, alright, start planning a website and it every two or three months, even though I had websites that were successful, thank goodness, otherwise I just really would have fallen flat on my face. I was constantly trying to expand it a totally different ideas, totally new ideas. And a couple of years ago I was at a mastermind event and they were talking about how what people tend to do is they tend to it they have this one project that’s producing a lot of success and instead of taking the resources that that is generating and putting them back into the things that are working for that business, they either try to go into entirely different businesses, not entirely different businesses, or they try to invest in things in that business that they’ve never tried before different forms of advertising, different forms of marketing, different promotional efforts, different team members, etc, rather than just iterating. And like doubling down on the things that are actually working in that business, and I was guilty of all of the above. And I finally took a step back a few years ago and looked at why my growth was it was it was linear, it was going up, but not remotely the rate, I felt like it should be year over year. And as a result, it was taking me a lot longer to hit my goals than I expected. And I kind of had to take a step back and evaluate what my habits were, and what my goals were, and how those were mismatched and how I was managing my time and how I was constantly launching new projects or trying to new learn new ways to generate results in my business, different forms of digital marketing and advertising is what has come in very handy today. But it especially as the CMO and co founder of a startup where I basically a one man show for marketing and advertising, I wouldn’t be successful there without all of that experience, but at the time, and over the north of a decade that it took me to acquire all of those skills, I didn’t grow at remotely the rate financially, I wanted to, and a lot of that was because I where I really needed to do the growth was personally I needed to take that step back and see you’re sabotaging yourself with constantly chasing shiny objects. And you really need to focus and double down and even though it’s not the fun thing to do, it’s I loved starting new projects, and and I loved the novelty of them. And they were very exciting for about three months. And then I would lose interest again and launch something else. And I took a step back and I said is the the the level of success I’m trying to achieve as an entrepreneur, that person that can have that multimillion dollar exit from a business, do they behave the way I’m behaving. And that kind of set me into this mantra for a while, I’d say a good 12 to 18 months that was focused on becoming the person who could achieve my goals. Rather than trying to focus on specific efforts or tasks or anything that I would do myself, I would just think about the person who could achieve the level of success I wanted to have. And I tried to model what I felt their habits would be. And one of the first things to go, when I looked at it from that perspective, was the shiny object syndrome that had me launching new projects all the time. Let’s hear
David Ralph [22:53]
from Oprah Winfrey, and we’ll be back with you.
Unknown Speaker [22:56]
The way through the challenge is to get still and ask yourself, what is the next right move? not think about, Oh, I got all of this stuff. But what is the next right move. And then from that space, make the next right move, and the next right move, and not to be overwhelmed by it. Because you know, your life is bigger than that one moment, you know, you’re not defined by what somebody says, is a failure for you. Because failure is just there to point you in a different direction.
David Ralph [23:27]
Now, and once again, I listened to that, and I listened to it all the time. And I think yeah, that’s so right. Because once you believed it, this is a thing that I try to get over to Join Up Dots listeners over time, you only look at what people have got, once they’ve achieved what they are willing for you to see. And with Join Up Dots, you can go back and you can see all the messes. You can see all the bad podcast episodes, you can see everything because it’s just kind of out there as a blueprint to follow. And we have a lot of people that I was big on back in the day back in about 2012. I don’t even know if they were around anymore. I don’t know what’s happened to him. They’ve just kind of like disappeared, but their mess is still there. And what you’re doing is absolutely right for the scammers. But I kind of want you to also go with a broom and clean up all the mess that they’ve left behind. You know, I mean, because there’s a new way of doing things and I think that the internet is turning into honesty and integrity. I might be naive here. But certainly from what I see, there is a reconnection with relationships, which wasn’t when I started when I started it was all about automation and get email marketing and you drip feed it and people are just buying you can sit on a beach setting coaching and you’re not going to be involved in it at all. I don’t see many people doing that now. They seem to be part of the actual ingredient the truth value that the trust fund Instead of the salesman was I call it, what do you think?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [25:03]
I think that’s very spot on. I think, certainly I’ve seen that in my engagement and marketing campaigns over the years as well, from my followers is the level of engagement has increased, the level of the level of longing for connection has increased. And especially when you can go into industries where that still isn’t present, even though the Internet has kind of made this shift. And as as a, as a species, we’ve, with this technology, we’ve made a shift to come to kind of expect that to a degree. And you can find those pockets where nobody’s doing it. Oh, talk about a starved audience. That’s absolutely something we’re experiencing in our startup. That’s absolutely something that I see on the you know, I run this, from publishing from nothing to the community that I run in the the consumer protection, website, Education website, rerun, stopping scams calm, we have, we’re always putting out resources to connect with people and help them and genuinely just keep them safe in an industry where it’s still so prevalent that people are just trying to take them as far as much money as they can, they don’t care about them, they don’t care about connecting with them. They don’t care about what happens to them after they purchase the product or after they land on the website. They just want to kind of exploit that relationship as much as possible as soon as they get that relationship and move on. And so I think you’re absolutely correct. And I think that’s a great way also, as we talk about looking for opportunities in any industry, or in any space as you’re launching a niche site, or you are building an online business of any kind. Keep that in mind. And especially when you’re looking at your competitors, if they’re not doing that, and they don’t have that level of connection that social media has enabled, and that so much of digital marketing on the whole has shifted towards. If you can Britain come in there and deliver that experience and that connection in that community, you will do very, very, very well.
David Ralph [27:03]
I bought a product online, which I’m waiting for it to be delivered. And it’s taking a long time, I have to be honest, it’s come out two months now. But the other day, I came home and my wife said, Oh, those people are phone, because she operates the phone in the house. And I said what, what people and she said, the people you bought that product from they just phoned up to apologise, but it’s a delay and it shouldn’t be much longer. And I thought lucky. How did they I was kind of blown away that they were actually making the effort to own my house and sort of apologise for the delay. And that’s kind of it’s a one phone call thing. But I will now tell people, well, it was delayed, but they did phoned me up and tell me so it was alright. You know, it’s quite easy, you know, but it’s still sort of blew me away. Right? Let’s get back to your book, Ben, because I’ve got loads of questions. We could have you here 52 episodes here. But let’s have a look, I gotta get back to my wonky toilet seat. Now on here, you have quarter to quarter milestones, okay. And one of the things that you talk about is the amount of time that you have to dedicate. And one of the things you say is a minimum of 10 hours a week, which I think is low to actually start an online business. Did you think 10 hours a week because I was obsessed, I was like about 100 hours a week, 10 hours? Is that good enough?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [28:23]
I do think it’s sufficient. I’ve seen it consistently in my community members as well over the years, I think it’s the bare minimum, you know, I would really emphasise that if you can put more you absolutely should be putting more. But and and the more you put in, the faster you’re going to see the results, the faster you’re going to accumulate an authoritative website and a presence and a community, all of those things that are very essential to your ultimate goals as an online business owner. And I definitely do think that that is possible, you could get out at least one to two pieces of really high quality content, spend a little bit of time also connecting with people in your community and starting to engage and making those connections that could ultimately become vital for you and your foothold in the industry as you seek to establish it. So it’s the absolute bare minimum, yes, I would prefer anyone pursuing internet business or in my community be working 2030 hours a week, if possible. But I also think that that is an obstacle that’s high enough for a lot of people that I don’t think they should rule out internet business just because they can’t put 20 hours a week, you get started. We all start somewhere get started at 10 hours a week. And then as time goes on as you begin to accumulate, and you begin to build that momentum, then invest more whenever you possibly can, but I would I would much rather someone start off with the bare minimum and work their way up. Then just rule out internet business altogether because they have a family and a full time job and They just really can’t consistently hit 20 hours a week, but they can hit 10. So start with him.
David Ralph [30:05]
Right? Okay, so when we go with 10, I was being a bit hard on your people, I want 100 get down and give me 100 now. And then you talk about the quarter to quarter milestones. And this is when I laughed out loud, right? This this was this was comedy gold for me only because it’s absolutely right. But wrong in the same way. And you’ll understand what coming. Okay, months 123 pushing through the trial and error during the first quarter, you’re gonna be spending a lot of time rereading this book and your notes, revisiting the training videos, you may spend hours tweaking one thing that will make you question that decision to get into internet marketing. I have been in internet marketing for about 20 years now coming up 20 years, I’m still in the trial and error phase. So what do you mean by that month? 123? Because I wouldn’t want it’s absolutely true. But I don’t think you ever move out of trial and error, I spend more time going home and my wife say what what have you done today, and I go, I’ve done nothing. I’ve been there for eight hours, and I’ve done nothing worthwhile, I’ve just read a lot of stuff. Expand.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [31:12]
So I would completely agree with that. I think certainly I’m not trying to imply to anyone that after, after three months, you’re gonna have it all figured out, you know, you, you’re not going to make mistakes, you’re not going to learn the hard way. From here, I think when you’re talking about that first project, that’s when you’re going to do the biggest book, it’s almost to a degree that like, you may wake up some days and feel like all you’ve done for the past eight weeks is fail. And that is a that is a very difficult thing to stare down. And, and look in the eyes of and press past it anyways. And that’s kind of the expectation I’m trying to set there is this is okay, this is going to happen. And I couldn’t agree more with you. I’ve been in digital marketing now since I was 16. So literally over half my life. And I still make a tremendous amount of mistakes. And I still learn from my mistakes more than I learned from my successes. And it’s amazing the variety of mistakes you can make and learn from over the years because you would think I would have exhausted them all by now. But somehow, it’s not like I’m making the same mistake over and over again, that’s where you get into trouble. That’s where you truly aren’t making progress anymore. If you’re just doing the same thing over and over again, failing the same way over and over again, you’re not iterating you’re not adjusting, you’re not learning and growing. That’s when you’re in trouble. But you will make a tremendous amount of mistakes. As an entrepreneur, as an online business owner, as long as you were are pursuing this path. And I would argue as long as you’re pursuing anything in life, as long as you’re living and breathing, and you have relationships and interactions with others and interactions with physical objects, you are going to make mistakes, and you’re going to learn from them. Your internet business is no exception. And it’s just particularly particularly during those first one to three months, I feel like you’re trying to find your trench where you can just really press forward and iterate on that path and see success. And you’re trying a lot of things there in the beginning. And getting that feedback loop in a way that is
Unknown Speaker [33:33]
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [33:36]
And overall has an even larger trajectory, on your ultimate path. As an entrepreneur and as an online business owner, then if you are making a mistake two years down the road, because two years down the road, yes, you’re still making mistakes, but you’re probably, you know, making a mistake on your email marketing campaign or on a conversion element on your website. And it’s not like that determines the entire fate of your business. Whereas the mistakes you learn from and how closely you’re tuned into that feedback loop in the first one to three months, absolutely can
David Ralph [34:11]
do you know, I think the biggest mistake that people are making at the moment, and I do a lot of coaching with people and quite a high level people, which surprises me, and they haven’t got the spine right of their business. And what I mean by that is you’ve got to make that decision of what your business is going to be about what value you’re going to provide and every bit of content has to be literally reconfirming that it’s almost boring, it’d be listen to Join Up Dots. Every single episode is about you can do it. You’ve got to work hard at it, we will support you and these are the tools and the skills to do it. You know, he that’s that’s it, then we do sort of slightly DBA where mindset is important and looking after yourself is important because I think that is important for entrepreneurs. But when people come across to me and they go, I’m not making enough money from my business and stuff, I’ve got the traffic when I go across, it’s always, I don’t understand what you do. It’s like there’s so much content, there’s so much avenues that you can go into. But they haven’t got that spine drive. I haven’t got that Christmas tree where every branch and every leaf leads into the centre. Is that something that once again, we can alleviate, where people are banging out content? Because I think it’s growing their business. But actually, it’s not because it’s not growing the trunk of the business, it’s just growing lots of leaves, if that makes sense.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [35:40]
Absolutely, I would even say, there are a lot of it. To keep with the analogy, I would say there are a lot of business owners out there. creating content that’s already a leaf on the ground and rotting, it’s not even connected to the tree anymore. They’re just like painting a leaf on another tree somewhere a mile away. So I would completely agree with that. I think we see that a lot. And that really introduces a tonne of complications. As an online business owner, when you do get to the point that you’re starting to monetize your traffic and you’re starting to build conversion funnels throughout your website. And that has become such a loaded word. I just mean broadly, you’re building a conversion sequence throughout your website that you want the person the website visitor to follow this path. And this path from this piece of content to this piece of content to you know, whatever your call to action is that ultimately brings lifeblood and revenue into your business. Ideally,
David Ralph [36:46]
yeah, he so he strange cars on your book from nothing, everything you need to profit from affiliate marketing, internet marketing, blogging, I know exactly what it’s about. And I opened the pages and everything is about that. And so books seem to be easy to do. But when it becomes an online business, people just seem to just make a big mess of it.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [37:07]
They do. And I very regularly remind my followers and people in my community, people who receive the newsletter, whatever it is, hey, all keywords are not created equal, all traffic is not created equal. Just because you see, a keyword opportunity does not mean you should write that piece of content. Because that visitors intention may be completely different. Their their needs may be completely different than what your as you refer to it, the spine actually serves and actually can help with. And I couldn’t agree more strongly. I think that’s something that should be taught a lot more in this industry. And it’s something that I don’t think you can be conscious and overly conscious of as someone who’s building an online business. I think that’s excellent advice.
David Ralph [37:59]
Because Join Up Dots, basically, business success made easy, but that’s it. And everything leads through to me answering the question in my head of is this the easiest way that I can do this? It’s not, it’s off, its off the agenda. It’s got to fall into do a farmer here 18 hours a day trying to do this bean, it’s not easy, get rid of it. I mean, just sort of move along. And once you get that in your business, it makes the decisions of what content you should be providing. It’s just obvious to you. Now, I actually had bad basically the berries of Join Up Dots. And I lost it along the way. I think I got over complicated, and I think got what I was trying to do. Maybe because I didn’t have belief in myself at that time. I don’t know what it was. But once I pulled that back in every single thing made sense. And interestingly or not interestingly, obviously, your income goes up because it makes sense to other people as well.
Unknown Speaker [39:01]
David Ralph [39:03]
Right. Okay, let’s jump on to the next one. Because this is something that I laughed out as well. I chuckled, and my wife said what you chuckling about I said, You wouldn’t understand it. You’ve got to, you’ve got to believe this to understand it. Okay, months, four to six second guessing everything. In the second quarter, you’re still experienced some of the same challenges faced during the first quarter, however, you had the skills necessary to overcome them. This quarter, you’re going to be less worried about the technical stuff more worried about the overall strategy. You see this a lot, don’t you? Where people put the work in, they start building towards it, and then they go, Ah, I tell you what I’m gonna do, I’m gonna do this and I go, just do what you’re doing in the beginning. Just do what you’re doing. And so many people speak to me and I go, you Do you realise you’re the product. You are the product. I’ll give you a classic example. And if she’s listening to this, right, basically a big kick up the booty to her. But there’s a lovely lady called Francis and she’s from Milton Keynes. In the United Kingdom, and when I first connected with her, she was in New Zealand. And she was doing a job, crappy job. She didn’t like it. And she said, Could you teach me to do an online business? So I started working with her. And she wanted to a business teaching people how to pass English exams. So there was a thing called eye outs or something international English language tests or something like that. And I said to her, it’s something that you’re interested in. I said, because you got to build a lot of content around this. And she said, No, I’m not interested in it. That was the first red flag. And I said, Well, I don’t think you should do this. Anyhow, we she was convinced about it. So she started working on it. Anyhow, we started talking. And then she said to me, You know, I grew up in Bali, and I went, did you? I said, he was English. And she said, No, I grew up in Bali. I can speak fluent Indonesia. And I went, What? So you’re an English person who can speak Indonesian? And she said, Well, yeah. And I said, Will you ever go back to Bali, I’d love to go back to Bali. And I said, you go back to Bali, you’re living in a place you love, you can speak Indonesian, you can also speak English, you become a conduit to help people with language problems out there. That’s your business, you are your business. It’s your experience that has led to where you are now, start doing it. And you know, even this weekend, I said, how you getting on, and she’s still trying to deviate from the fact that she’s got all these talents that nobody else has got. She’s got all these skills, and she still thinks that she should go into an environment, but she’s got no knowledge on it just it blows me away. Yeah, how many people want to emigrate to Bali? Well, I’ve done the keyword research, and it’s quite a lot. And absolutely, yeah, and they’re gonna get out of there. And they’re not going to know the lingo, they’re not going to go know the currency, they’re not going to know all these things. And they’ve got an English woman who can speak the language and make it easier for them to find properties and stuff. And Ian, do you not want to scream? Get Yeah, get your act together?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [42:00]
Well, one thing I would say is, I think that speaks tremendously to you as, as a consultant, and as a coach, to get that, that insight and and be able to provide that the challenge, of course, is getting getting the client to see it as clearly as you can. And I would, I would be jumping up and down and pulling my hair out. If I were you as well, I had a very similar experience with one of my followers, and one of my community members recently, who had been in the community now for about 15 months, and had kind of written me and let me know, hey, I don’t think I’m going to pursue internet business anymore. I gave it 15 months, and it didn’t really it didn’t work out. So I promised my wife, I feel like I let her down. And and I’m going to take a step back from it, even though it’s my biggest dream, and I would have loved to have it, it was how I was going to fund my retirement here. And I think it’s like three or four years, two or three years. And, and I said, you know, before you do that, if it means that much to you, and you’ve been pursuing it this long, you have everything you need, you have all of the training you need, I just, I need to I’d really like to take a look at the steps you took along the way. And they started a website that they got really consistent with for about four months. And then they it just got abandoned. And then they launched another website, totally different niche, totally different, you know, topic, totally different audience started brand new domain from scratch. Okay, that one, the footprints looked like it was only stuck with for a handful of weeks. And then there was another one kind of overlap simultaneously, and then nothing for the past nine months, 910 12 months. And I look at that, and I go I’m sorry, what? what path Were you following? Because it’s not the one I taught you. It’s not the one that you got for me and, and I to bring this full circle. He is someone who wants to retire in the Philippines. And his wife is Filipina, and they have they currently live in California in the United States and they’re planning to immigrate to the Philippines to retire. And I said well what are you doing you know, like you’re trying all these other things and this was one of the websites he had just barely planted a seed for months prior probably about a year prior and just they didn’t produce a lot of content for it. He just kind of had a landing page and an about me and that was it. It was pretty bare. And I said go back here like you can bring so much value here just like you’re talking about with with digital nomads and people looking to live in Indonesia and specifically even Bali. I look at it I go the same things happening in the Philippines for a lot of the same reasons. If you have so much experience there, and your wife is Filipina, and you’ve travelled there so many times, you’ve a vacation there 70 times, you’re planning your own retirement there. your niche should be helping people retire in the Philippines. What And fortunately, for me, at least so far, this was just a handful of weeks ago, he saw it really clearly saw the writing on the wall. It reinvigorated his drive for building online business and pursuing that dream and kind of readjusted, recalibrated some of his goals very similar to what we talked about earlier, where it was like, hey, focus on the things that you can actually control and don’t just think about the money. And also let’s adjust these income goals as well, because they’re kind of they’re not exactly setting you up for success right now. And for now, at least, he’s he’s back on track and, and headed that direction. And I would say you said it was Francis.
David Ralph [45:52]
Yes. Ron says yes,
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [45:54]
I couldn’t, for what it’s worth, you know, just layer on the veteran internet marketer, recommendations of, for the love of God, and all that is holy, it’s, it’s your golden Chalice, it’s like that is just a beam of light calling out to you. Because whenever you you, you’re looking at a market opportunity, as an online business or any type of business, the more you are overcoming obstacles to entry, and unique value propositions unique ways to bring value to that audience, when you’re talking about like having experience in Indonesia, and speaking Indonesian, but also speaking English, and there’s a market need, the more you layer on top of those, the more you layer those elements on top of one another, each one of those you climb a rung above your competition, so that even people who are very well established in the space, you have those advantages. If you stick with it, you’re going to surpass them even no matter how deep seated, and how rooted they are in the industry, because you have so many advantages over them that they’re not going to be able to develop on their own. In most instances, it’s just crying out to her as an opportunity. And I couldn’t, I can’t second your recommendation strongly enough. That’s incredible advice.
David Ralph [47:13]
And what I actually did with her, I said, Look, you need to see it, you need to see it, I’ll build your website for you. So I settled down for a few hours, I can build websites quite easily. And I created one for her so that she could see the the trunk and the branches. And it only took me half hour really to do it and then get some images on and get some texts and stuff. And she said to me, I can now see it, I can now see it. And so I really want her because she’s out there, she’s living she’s on a moped, she’s getting drunk, she’s on beaches, you know, she’s, she’s living the life but people want that’s quality that’s value all the way through. Now, it is interesting, actually, because we have deviated slightly from your book, but I’m going to come back to it, I’m going to come back to it here. Because one of the things that people talk about is, you know, niching down. And as we said, well, you know, being an English person who speaks Indonesia in Bali, and can help people with Okay, it’s kind of quite niche, but it’s got enough rep as well. And you made an interesting point on here, that you were listing good niches. This is what I was reading last night and I’ve been one of them was something to do with selfie sticks. That is a great niche. But how much could you write about a selfie stick before you basically pick one and beat yourself up with it? You know? And then that is got to be something that people look at as well isn’t it? It’s great to go niche is great to go really niche. But are you going to bore the pants off yourself by actually trying to create this business?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [48:49]
Absolutely. And that is one of the
most common mistakes I see people make when they pick a niche is they are cornered from the very start. They have just there’s everything around them is lava, you can’t transition out of that. Once you write those 10 or 20 articles, how many different ways can you pitch a selfie stick how many different features does a selfie stick have, you might be able to expand into something greater for example, either like phone photography, I think would probably be the best niche there. But even phone accessories more broadly, as as a really rough, really rough example because that would need refined dramatically. I can’t over qualify what I just said. But pick something more where once you write about a selfie sticks 10 times you have more options, because otherwise you’ve just boxed yourself in and going too narrow. When you look at the keyword research you look at the audience needs you look at potentially the the products of the landscape or the services within the landscape. You’re going to want to be able to pretty easily doing a few hours of keyword research, see, okay, here’s 50 6070 articles that I could write, don’t overwhelm yourself by trying to think about how long it’s going to take writing them. But just know that there’s enough opportunity for expansion there. These are topics you can write about, at all different stages of the purchase cycle in the buying cycle. And, and as the consumer is going through that journey. And if you can find fairly easily 50 6070, you probably have a pretty good niche in mind, and you can keep pressing forward, and you don’t need to plan out all, you know, 400 articles you’re going to write over the next several years, you just have to see enough to know Okay, I see a pattern here where whenever I think I’ve bumped up against the dead end, I have found another path that leads to a whole other kind of utopia, a whole lot of other paradise of content, and just lush, rich ideas that I can publish and help the audience.
David Ralph [51:05]
Now one of the things I always talk about Ian, is sell it, tell it do it, and where that’s how I always think, can I sell something? Can I tell something? Or do I actually have to do it. And one of the easiest ones I always like people to do is actually to just do stuff, you know, almost move from being a corporate guy to a freelancer, if you got some tools that you can go over to Fiverr or go to Upwork and get the work dripped through to you and you just do it because it kind of builds up the competence, or away from actually just being paid a salary by actually thinking of different ways that you can provide more personal value. What what your opinion on that day,
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [51:49]
I actually wrote an article on this fairly recently, a guest post for some outlet and, and I actually mentioned that as well, if I were going back and doing it all over again, as I was learning in the journey, and I was in those earlier stages, and I was trying to develop new skills, I would certainly be looking to do some kind of freelance or client based work that I refer to it, as I think, basically getting paid to practice, obviously, I’m not the first person to refer to it that way. But I think there’s that idea holds a lot of value, and a lot of water to rather than just trying to taking the leap and hoping at some point you fly, kind of feather your nest a little bit along the way you may not be making as much as you wanted to, you may not be making as much as you were as a full time professional. But it is a really great transition. And I think it also not only serves to patch some of the financial holes that are created as you endeavour to build an online business, but it also builds the confidence and I can’t over emphasise it. The more I do in this space, the more I build businesses and the more I see other people attempting to build businesses and either succeeding or failing, the more I recognise that the psychology and the emotions you’re experiencing, and how well you’ve been prepared for that kind of psychological and emotional roller coaster and how much you’re getting positive feedback along the way to keep you renewed and refreshed and fueled for the long road ahead, the better. And that’s just another way to give yourself some wins so that you can keep pressing forward.
David Ralph [53:30]
Now just before we DC I’m going to do this live a and I’m going to ask you to come back on the show because I realise I’ve only scratched the surface of this. And we’re not going to get anywhere near the Sermon on the mic and all the things that makes Join Up Dots what it is, will you come back to a second part?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [53:49]
I would absolutely love to it would be my honour. I’ve really enjoyed this
David Ralph [53:53]
one. Okay, well, we’ll have you back on a second part of that frees me up I don’t have to do anything else other than asked you these questions. So it leading back to it, but dreaded I don’t have any passions niche struggle. Okay. One of the things that you say that most people say is they have no passion, they feel as if they have no valuable skills. And they feel as if they don’t have adequate knowledge about anything, I would say to the world out there that is that is crap. I’m going to use that word. Because you’ve lived life. You’ve been on this planet and there’s no way on earth you could get to this end stage of living and not have learned something that you can transition. I built a whole business around two things really, one being able to talk quite fluently on the microphone, and the second, being able to dissect quite complicated bits of information into things that people understand. And that doesn’t seem like a business in itself. But I’ll tell you why it’s become very profitable. So once you think about that before we say goodbye to you and invite you on to the second episode, is that is that poppycock? As we In the United Kingdom, the posh people say, is that crap? Do they have all these things?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [55:06]
I don’t think so at all. I think that there’s that’s totally legitimate 100%
David Ralph [55:12]
Well, legitimate, but they have no passions. They have no valuable skills.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [55:17]
Well, no, I think no, excuse me what you said it’s legitimate, that you couldn’t go through life, you couldn’t go through all of these experiences and having lived life to survive to adulthood, even and most people looking to pursue online business are at least a few years into adulthood, that you could go through all of that and not have something that you could build a business around that you could position yourself to bring value to an audience where it would be greatly appreciated, and they’re seeking that help, they’re seeking that guidance, and you could certainly get a leg up on anyone else in that marketplace. And, and deliver that value. I mean, of course, this is often referred to as and I don’t know what your, your personal take on this is. You talked about it a little bit earlier, I think having some level of interest in the niche you select, or the path you select for your online business is really, really important. But I think we kind of, we see that taken too far, in my opinion, in most instances of teaching nice selection, as authorities or teachers or product publishers, authors, etc. in this space, we what you most often hear is just pick something you’re passionate about, pick one of your passions. And what I and you if you’re to this point in the book yet as well, what I really emphasise is that can be a good fallback, it’s a good option, but you should probably look at the places in life and the experiences you’ve had in life, where you’ve accumulated the most knowledge, because where you’ve accumulated the most knowledge, even though it may not be the thing you’re most passionate about anymore. It’s not you know, you don’t jump out of bed and want to read a book on it anymore. It’s certainly the place where you are going to be able to deliver the most value to the audience that is much earlier in the journey that you could save them those several years. And, personally, the idea of just being able to help those people and serve that audience, even if I’m not super passionate about the subject matter, that’s really energising to me to know that there are people on the same journey five years earlier, 10 years earlier than I am. And I can help prevent them from making a lot of the mistakes, or I can help get them the information they need a lot faster and a lot easier. And that comes from knowledge and experience. So where I typically tell people to start when they’re looking at picking a niche is where are you educated? Often traditional education plays a role there. If you have degrees, what did you get your degrees? And what did you study? What trades are you? Are you familiar with? What hobbies Have you had for many, many, many years? Where What have you done for a living? What are the jobs you’ve had, these are all areas that you may very easily overlook, if you just heard the advice, follow your passion. And if you comb through all of these things, and of course, in the book that there’s a long list of suggestions and, and recommendations of Okay, here’s here’s where you should put your yourself, here’s where you should take your mind so that you can kind of wring every drop out of this particular recommendation when when searching for a niche that you want to pursue. If you go through every single one of those, and you still end up with that I just there’s nothing in life where I’ve just been a vagabond, I haven’t really, which in and of itself would be a fantastic website.
David Ralph [58:59]
I was thinking the same thing. As soon as you said that I thought I could monetize that.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [59:05]
I know. So, you know, you’ve just you’ve gone through life and you’ve just never really set down roots. He did say the more I talked about it, the more it sounds like a website I would love to visit. But yeah, you’ve done all of these things that you haven’t developed really deeply entrenched career in anything or really deeply entrenched education towards anything. Okay, now let’s talk about things that you’re really interested in. But do it knowing every time you sit down to write an article, you’re now going to have to do three times the amount of research of someone who would step into that into that that industry or that niche or serving that audience who had a lot of experience and this for me as I because sometimes I still write guest posts or I do op eds, or I do these things for these other outlets. Right now. I’m working on an article for business COMM And you know, we I find going in I can write 2000 3000 words in four hours. Whereas one of my team writers working on the, you know, digital marketing education, side of things, they need to do research, they need to consult with me, they need advice and direction, it takes them 12 1620 hours to write an article of that length. And it’s still not the depth of insight and quality that I can provide to the audience. Because I’ve lived it for so long, it’s, it’s my experience, like you give me talking about digital marketing. And I’m just going to, as hopefully, this interview, is a demonstration of, you know, as a testament to, I’m going to be able to provide a lot of value just off the cuff and just having a casual conversation. And if you were following a passion based or a hobby based business, where you’re going into it, because you’re passionate about it, or you’re interested in it, and it’s just something you want to learn more about. That’s fine. It really is, I wouldn’t use that as my first tier of niche selection and introspection to build a business for. But if you work through all of those tiers, and you work through all that life experience, and you still go, man, there’s just nothing, there’s nothing I really feel like I could create a website for, there’s no audience that I’m excited about serving and helping there. And you end up in the path where you’re looking at passions or interests, that’s no problem, just know, every piece of content you write is going to take three or four times as long, at least twice as long. But I think that’s being too generous three or four times as long, because you’re going to have to research it before you teach it to someone else. Whereas if you just step in with the experience, you’re going to be able to crank out articles with minimal research, if any at all and provide even more value to that audience from square one than you would be in a passion or interest base. Yeah,
David Ralph [1:01:51]
I agree. I agree, live your life in the life that the dots join up, the dots give you all the experience, the good dots, the bad dots, the white dots wherever they get you to a point where if you can look back and join up those dots, it all makes sense. And we’re going to say goodbye to you, because we’re gonna have you back on the show. So we’re not gonna listen to Steve Jobs, we’re not gonna listen to the Sermon on the mic. But we’ve gone over an hour on this episode. But the people that have listened to this first episode and look out, but Ian’s name on future episodes, what’s the number one best way that they can connect with you?
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [1:02:23]
I would think the best way to connect with me would be probably from nothing booked calm would be the easiest one too. If you’re interested in the book that David’s talked about, get your hands on it. It’s as I specifically wrote that book, because I’ve been in this industry so long. And for me as a marketer, and as an entrepreneur, I always turn to books when I’m trying to self develop and learn. And it’s a way you can sit down with someone who’s an industry veteran for a very, very, very low dollar amount, and just soak up years of knowledge. It’s kind of the age old form of education. So from nothing book.com if you want to get your hands on that, to connect with me personally and see what I’m up to and drop me a message, whatever you want to do. It websites a little bit trickier to spell because my my last name makes a same person feel dyslexic, but it’s Ian i n. And then my last name pribyl P is in Paul ri B as in boy, y l.com. So you can connect with me multiple ways there. And I would love to connect with you. If you have any questions. Just serve you any way that I can. And make sure you got that insight direction and advice that I wish I had been given when I was getting started in this industry very similar to I’m sure the reason David runs this podcast.
David Ralph [1:03:47]
And thank you so much for spending time with us today. joining up those dots and providing that information, of course, please come back again. And we will join up more dots and provide more information to the listeners, as I believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is always the best way to build our futures in. Thanks very much.
Internet Mastery with Ian Pribyl [1:04:06]
David Ralph [1:04:09]
Mr. Ian Preble from nothing is his book. And yeah, we’re gonna have him back on again. Because, you know, as it’s the kind of information you guys need to know, you need to know how to do what we do for a living. And there’s this stuff that you can’t just do in a course is these kinds of conversations, but are really, really important. Just simple things like not all traffic is built equal, you know, absolutely spot on. If you’re diluting your message and you’re not speaking to the right people about the right things, you’ll get a struggle. Internet business is easy, but you need clarification and that’s what we’re here for. So until next time you Look after yourselves. Thank you very much for connecting. I’m having a little bit of a break from business coaching at the moment. So if you want to check Yeah, you’ll be the last ones in before I stopped for a while. And then we will start again probably in 2021. But who knows? Who knows. Until next time you Look after yourselves, and I’ll see you again. Cheers. Bye bye.
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