Jaryd Kruse Joins Us On The Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Jaryd Kruse
Jaryd Kruse is todays guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots podcast.
This is the second time that he has appeared on the show and in the last episode we discussed how in a world where the conventional 9-to-5 grind often feels like an unrelenting trap, Jaryd Kruse stands as a beacon of hope, demonstrating that there’s an alternative path to financial abundance and a life truly worth living.
As an online business mentor, Jaryd has transcended the ordinary and discovered the keys to unlocking an extraordinary lifestyle.
His story isn’t one of rags to riches but rather a testament to the power of determination and a desire for something greater.
Raised by parents who embodied the spirit of hustling, Jaryd witnessed first-hand the relentless pursuit of dreams.
Their example instilled in him a fundamental lesson: if you want something badly enough, you can achieve it.
And Jaryd wanted to make a lot of money, not out of materialism, but as a means to experience the world and give back in meaningful ways.
However, his initial foray into the entrepreneurial world didn’t quite hit the mark.
Jaryd found himself working tirelessly, hustling in every direction, but still falling short of his goals.
It wasn’t until he made a pivotal shift in his mindset and approach that everything changed.
How The Dots Joined Up For Jaryd
Jaryd’s “Ah-Ha” moment came when he realized that instead of building online businesses from scratch, he could acquire established ones that had already weathered the challenging first year of business.
This shift in strategy allowed him to reap the rewards of someone else’s hard work while minimizing his own efforts and showing the world a different way?
Now, Jaryd shares his knowledge and experience, guiding others to achieve financial freedom and a better lifestyle.
He believes in lighting others’ candles with the knowledge he’s acquired.
If you’re tired of the 9-5 grind and seeking an alternative, listen closely as Jaryd Kruse shares his journey to help you join up more dots in your life.
But has there been even more changes in mindset since his last appearance on the show?
And is he still living the dream that he thought was the success he wanted or has life since gone in a different direction?
Well lets find out as we bring on to the show to start joining up even more dots with the one and only Mr. Jaryd Kruse.
During the show we discussed such weighty subjects with Jaryd Kruse such as:
Jaryd shares how he has come to the realisation that the path should always be based on having true happiness as the foundation.
We talk openly about using the benchmark of time freedom to make smart and right business and life decisions
Why its such an amazing idea to start with a really small goal, whether financial, time or location and build from there.
Jaryd talks about the time that he built a business based on growth and actually hated it even though he thought it would be his dream.
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Full Transcription Of Jaryd Kruse Interview
Life shouldn’t be hard life should be a fun filled adventure every day. So now start joining up dots tap into your talents, your skills, your God given gifts and tell your boss, you don’t deserve me. I’m out of here. It’s time for you to smash that alarm clock and start getting the dream business and wife You will of course, are dreaming of. Let’s join your host David route from the back of his garden in the UK, or wherever he might be today with another JAM PACKED episode of the number one hit podcast. Join Up Dots.
David Ralph [0:40]
Yeah, good morning to you. Well, good morning to you and welcome to Join Up Dots. Thank you so much as always, to being here with me. Today’s is in the interview show and today’s guest is joining us for the second time he appeared on the show. And I remember the last episode we discussed how in a world where the conventional nine to five grind often feels like an unrelenting trap. He stood as a beacon of hope demonstrating that there is an alternative path to financial abundance and a life truly worth living. As an online business mentor, he’s transcended the ordinary and discovered the keys to unlocking the extraordinary lifestyle. And he story isn’t one of rags to riches, but rather as a testament to the power, determination and a desire for something greater. raised by parents who embody the spirit of hustling he witnessed firsthand the relentless pursuit of dreams. And their example instilled in him a fundamental lesson. If you want something badly enough, you can achieve it. And he did want that. And he wanted to make a lot of money not out of materialism, but as a means to experience the world and then give back in meaningful ways. However, his initial foray into the entrepreneurial world didn’t quite hit the mark. And he found himself working more than hard hustling in every direction, but still falling short of his goals. And it wasn’t until we made a pivotal shift in his mindset. And he’s approached that everything changed. He’s aha moment came when he realised that instead of building online businesses from scratch, he could acquire established ones I’d already weathered the challenging first year of business. And this shift in strategy allowed him to reap the rewards of someone else’s hard work, while minimising his own efforts and showing the world a different way. And now he shares his knowledge and experience guiding others to achieve financial freedom and a better lifestyle. He believes in lighting up his candles with the knowledge he’s acquired. Now, if you’re tired of a nine to five, grind and seeking an alternative, listen closely as he shares his journey to help you join up more dots in your life. But has it been even more changes in mindset since his last appearance on the show? And is he still living the dream that he thought was the success he wanted? Or has lived since gone? in a different direction? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up even more dots with the one and only Mr. Jaryd Kruse. Good morning, Jayrd, how are you?
Jaryd Kruse [3:05]
Good morning, David. I am exceptional. Well, thank you.
David Ralph [3:10]
Well, it’s quite it’s quite a story, isn’t it? It is quite a story. You know, it’s sort of similar in many regards. But I think the things are two other guests. It’s been on show, but I think the thing that jumps out at me all the time was that you had a benchmark to follow your parents kind of instilled in you a fundamental lesson. If you want something badly enough, you can achieve it. Now a lot of parents go, like my parents did. I will just get a job in a bank. Oh, it’s safe. It’s 40 years, and then you can retire and all that kind of stuff. Now, do you look back on it? And you think Yeah, that’s probably one of the biggest wins that I’ve had actually having people that believe that you can make your own life?
Jaryd Kruse [3:52]
Absolutely, absolutely. Like so in both my parents worked a regular job as well. They were entrepreneurial prior to having us children. So we’ve got four kids in the family. So there’s four of our siblings. And it’s interesting because I was chatting to this with my sister, I’m close with all my siblings, and I Charlie, my sister the other day, and we talked about like, how come mum and dad had the whole nine to five thing and every single one of us kids are entrepreneurs. And I think it really comes down to them being so open to other routes and also sit down supportive, like whatever we whatever we did, they’re like, Yep, cool, let’s let’s, let’s help them do that. And that’s huge. Like, not everybody gets that sort of life where we’re born into a family where they’re that supportive or they have the you know, resources like the time and the capacity doesn’t even need to be financially but are able to support and that’s massive, right?
David Ralph [4:57]
Oh, he’s totally massive is like my son at the moment. My, my daughter has just moved out of home. She’s only 18. It’s been very emotional this week. Tears left, right and centre. And she’s going after her dream and she wants to be on the stages. She she’s a theatre person, she loves going to the theatre ever since she was a small girl, she wanted to sing and dance and all that kind of stuff. And so she’s got her dream, and she’s going for it. My son, on the other hand, is quite interested in going on vacations, probably sleeping with his girlfriend, and playing Wii. And they’re probably the three things that he likes doing more than anything. And I kind of had this finger on my shoulder, Devil and Angel, where I kind of want to say, be more like your sister, she’s trip and she’s going for it. She’s doing this and all you’re doing is floating around having a brilliant time. But then there’s a bit in the middle, my kind of spear that goes all the way through me back says What have you do in life, kids, just be happy. That’s your starting point. And whether you’re earning a lot of money or you’re not earning much money, happiness is the starting point. Do you think that you are now happy? Do you think that you’ve kind of got that? Or are you still looking for something?
Jaryd Kruse [6:15]
I’m always looking for something. I’m always a student and very curious person. But am I happy Absa freaking lately, like I’m so damn fulfilled in my life, and so damn grateful. And I think you are exactly right. Whether you’re striving for something, or you’re just doing what you love doing, the most important thing is happiness. And we’re getting straight into the juicy stuff, David, because this is I was gonna talk about this on sermon, a sermon on the mic about enjoying and being enjoy.
David Ralph [6:50]
That’s what I do, Jared, I squeezed the juice, all right, I find you find your weak point and then squeeze it.
Jaryd Kruse [6:58]
Absolutely love it. And we’re just like, if you are enjoying life, it’s easier to make good decisions, versus decisions based on I need to do this. And, you know, if we’re making decisions based on fear, fear, clouds, our judgement, fear, it allows us to be stressed. And you know, when we’re making decisions based on feeds here, basically, we’re not making the best decisions for us with longevity and our long term future in mind, but when we’re enjoying ourselves, we can make smart decisions, right. And I think that’s the foundation like that’s the basis like when your son because your son will be so fulfilled from gaming, you know, doing whatever he’s doing with his partner, and travelling and all that sort of stuff, when it comes time to him, you know, all things come to an end, which I think is a, you know, is a beautiful thing, because that that means, you know, there’s a birth of something else. And I believe that, you know, for me, I got to a point where I travelled so much in my life that I was like, Oh, I just, you know, I need to, you know, work on something else. And I did, and I, you know, built this crazy business. Crazy good. And then I went heavily into that, and then I slowed down on that and move more into travelling again. And I am through the flow of like, finding joy in one thing, and then finding joy in another thing. And yeah, like, it’s all based off, there has been, I’ve made decisions based off fear in the past, of course, I think most of us have. But I think having that foundation of like the happiness moving forwards, you’re only gonna put yourself in a better position.
David Ralph [8:45]
Now the problem with this, right, and I led you down a garden path there, Jared, I was giving you rope to hang yourself with. Because on the happiness path, once you’ve had it for a while, it just becomes normal, you kind of don’t realise that you’re happy. And this is something that I’ve struggled with over the last few years, when I started Join Up Dots. It was a grind, it was more than a grind. It was terrible. And then little by little by little, I got to a point where actually I didn’t really have to do that much work. And I could bring in another income stream. And I was living the life I thought was brilliant, I thought was amazing. And then I went through a stage of just feeling flat. And I can look back on it now. And I think the reason why it was flat was I didn’t actually have the ability to deal with that much happiness. I almost felt guilty that I was sort of living that life. Now I say to people, I’m retired, and being retired, kind of sits happier in my head been saying to people oh, I’ll just get up and do what I want to do. I’ve kind of put a label on it because I didn’t feel that it was right for me to just look like I was floating around even though I’d worked really hard on it. Does that make sense to you?
Jaryd Kruse [9:57]
Yeah. I think, yeah, you’re right. Like I think we can get to a certain level of fulfilment, when something is becomes the ROI of the fulfilment doesn’t light us up as much. And we need to, you know, to continue to be happy and be fulfilled, we need to do a few things differently. And that’s cool.
David Ralph [10:23]
Now, let’s take you back because obviously some people haven’t listened to the first episode of Join Up Dots. And if that’s you, how dare you? How dare you? But what is it that you actually do? Because you are an online business mentor, you’re struggled, you had a mindset shift, and then suddenly it came together? So let’s explain it from your day’s work. What do you actually do on a day to day basis so people can sort of understand how you’re living your life.
Jaryd Kruse [10:55]
As of like to, like now? Yeah, as of
David Ralph [10:58]
Jaryd Kruse [11:01]
So it’s so different and so varied. I typically work a 20 hour work week, most of my time is spent doing one to one coaching calls, helping people acquire businesses, and grow them. And some of the other portion is me just jumping on podcasts like this being interviewed, and then also my own podcast. So most of what I do is me jumping on camera and microphone and chatting to people that I love. So I’m very grateful. The rest of the time is me surfing, playing tennis, travelling, going to days bars, and yeah, hanging out with family and friends really, as much as I possibly can. I say I’m live in Bali. And I’m in Australia at the moment back in Bali in six weeks time. And I’m kind of between the two. And that’s kind of my my day to day, I guess I sort of, I don’t work on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays, I don’t have any calls booked for then. Obviously, I manage a small team in the business as well. We have a business where we put people through to help them buy online businesses and then grow them as well. We have a an SEO agency. Yeah, that’s what my, that’s what my day to day looks like. Really, I try and have as much space as I can. Because I think we did talk about this in last episode, space is so good for creativity, and allows me to have more fulfilment and joy and then build on top of that, right?
David Ralph [12:38]
I because my whole life, and it probably bores people, but I keep on saying it. Because I want people to understand it’s doable. It’s not just me sort of spouting these words. But my whole business decision making process is, am I going to be tied down to a specific time, I look at everything, and I don’t want to wake up on a Monday morning. And the wife says, Stay in bed and we make love to lunchtime, and I go, Oh, I can’t, I’ve got free zoom calls this morning. You know, I just want to be able to do anything spontaneously there, you can’t 100% Because there’s certain things like I booked in a time with you. You’re here at the time. I’ve got to be here at the time. But literally other than two days a month, I can sort of wrangling around and sort of getting into the right position. Now. I didn’t think that was a thing. And when I started I for a long time, I was still in corporate timezones. So I was working for myself, but I was still working from eight till six or eight or 10, or whatever it was, you know, it was huge amount of work. And I think that was the first one of my chips when I realised but actually, no one’s telling me this. I’m kind of putting these restrictions and his boundaries on myself. I need to free myself. Do you remember when you suddenly realise that actually? Oh, god, yeah, I am the decision maker. I’m the one I don’t have to ask a teacher. I don’t have to ask my parents. I don’t have to ask my partner I can just actually do it because I want to do it.
Jaryd Kruse [14:14]
Yeah, that was in 2015. For me when I left my plumbing job. I was just sat at home and I was like, wow, I can do the work at any hour that I want. And that was dangerous for me because I wasn’t travelling at the time and everybody else is working. So what did I do is I just poured myself into work and I found out quite fast how toxic that was for me. But you’re back to your point back to your point on like the time thing. And is it possible for people like absolute absolute frickin lonely like I did the end I was in Indonesia surfing And I just did a couple of coaching calls throughout that two month period, just to get my coaching clients by I didn’t do any podcasts or interviews or anything like that had all the content loaded up banked up, ready to go. Does that mean to say that David and I don’t have important issues to to get to in business at certain times. And sometimes we need to make no tricky decisions. And sometimes things aren’t always rosy. Of course, you know, those things happen. But the lifestyle of time independence is, is real, like it’s absolutely real. If
David Ralph [15:38]
Israel and Israel because I’ve done it, and I struggled to do it, because I felt like as I say, I had to ask permission. And I have to say, the last time my wife said to stay in bed and make love must have been about 32 years ago. So I don’t think that’s happening on a daily basis, because it’s not. But why do you think that we are so desperate to ask for permission, why we don’t think to ourselves, this is our life, we can do what we want, because it’s a thing. It’s a thing. You see, when you hire a new staff member, and they’re really talented, they’re really good, but they’re unable to make decisions. And they would come up to my desk when I was a sales manager, and go, Oh, I just want to run pass this run. Best thing past you, you know, and you kind of think this is what we’ve hired you for just go and do what you you’re being paid to do. What is this permission things you think?
Jaryd Kruse [16:34]
Or such a good question, I believe it’s definitely comes from societal conditioning. Like we have infinite potential when we’re born as babies. And were just the most purest form of love and lighting, creativity and, you know, abundance up until, you know, maybe two years old, three years old, when we start to listen to the society, the society consume content. And that’s the way we get put through this system of, you know, you do what you’re told. And you go to school, you do these sorts of things, and you sort of behave in the way that society behaves. So you fit in and you don’t get judged. And I think we adopt this principle of like, we don’t want to be judged. And if we are to ask for help, put our hand out for help and say, hey, you know, can you help me with this or ask for permission, you know, to do something, we could get judged by our boss, we could get judged by our peers. And most people don’t want to be judged. But like, who like being, you can’t, you can’t control judgement from other people. And that’s one thing that I think a lot of us miss. And you know, I’m no saint here. Sometimes I slip into that role of like, oh, I don’t want to be judged either. I work very hard on on not caring. Because I know it’s outside of my control. But it could be from us, not wanting to be judged. But the reality is, we’re gonna get judged whether we like it or not. So
David Ralph [18:21]
my family, yeah, my family loved rules. And they’ve always loved rules. And I’ve always liked breaking rules, because it amused me. But they didn’t like it. And I remember really small, I went walked into a cinema on a Saturday morning with my kids once. And it was one of the Saturday morning things where it was only the kids and the parents going. Anyhow, there was no one on reception, there was no one on the tickets, there was no one anywhere, it was all just empty. And I walked in, and my daughter must have been about four, my son must have been about six. And I said, Oh, come on, we just walk in. And they went, You can’t do that, that you can’t do that. And I went Look, they’re not here. There’s no one here to buy my tickets. The films are about to start. I went in just relaxed quite happily and wants to film but my kids even though they were not falling six, I thought that they were gonna get arrested, whatever, you know, and it’s all these tiny little kind of rules and, and restrictions that they they kind of buy into and I’m always saying to them, what’s gonna happen, they can arrest us, they’re not going to arrest us. I got bigger things to do, you know. And I’m a great believer in not just those kinds of roles, but basically in life rules. Right grows bright water, this might rose up everyone who’s done amazing things out. There have been Rule Breakers, they have to do different things. If you read about Richard Branson, if you read about and Warren Buffett and Steve Jobs, they’re all breaking rules over time. Not big ones, not ones that are gonna cause people problems, but just those rules of permission.
Jaryd Kruse [19:52]
Absolutely. Absolutely. I’m similar to you, David. I love breaking rules. Just just because it’s yeah, it’s a thrilling thing. But rules, you know, you don’t have to go by rules and rules actually squash and suppress better options and creativity, right, like so it’s, you know, even when you hire somebody and you build a system, you know, an SOP for them to run through, they might be far more capable and have their own way of doing something that is far superior to your system. And they can do it do do the job, a better job in less time. But they have to follow these rules, you’re actually these rules definitely hold us back in ways. And we can even go one step further in one thing that I like to do is I like to live my life, the opposite of most people, I saw on a dating app that somebody said, what’s, you know, what’s your biggest fear, and their biggest fear was fitting in and being normal. And I thought, Damn, that’s great. Like, because if you want a life that most don’t have, you need to do the opposite, almost the opposite of what they’re doing in so many different ways.
David Ralph [21:17]
And the key thing to that, if you do the opposite, but everyone’s doing, and you see this time and time again, you go into a shop, there’s a really long queue, and there’s one that’s no one that’s bear in the United Kingdom, people will generally go behind the really long queue, because they think, oh, there must be a reason, there must be a reason why nobody’s going over there. And it’s that that that conformity that people have, that actually means they have less opportunity, by going the path that no one else has travelled, you might have to hack it back a bit. But actually, you are, it’s easier. And it’s a real mindset shift, you really got to sort of get your head into the game and being actually, I don’t have to conform, I can do whatever I want, and the opportunities become limitless. But once again, I think people generally don’t.
Jaryd Kruse [22:07]
That’s a good good point. Like I’ve seen airports where, you know, you’re lining up for immigration, and there’s three lines of in this three sort of desks that you could go to, and you’ve got most people that go into the one because they think it’s you know, that’s that’s the one that everybody goes to, but you could go straight on through easy you could, you know, it might sometimes it might be a path where you need to hack through a little bit. But sometimes it’s like, a lot of the time, it’s like, yeah, just to clean, just as a clean sweep.
David Ralph [22:37]
You know, which Join Up Dots, for example, I get emails all the time, saying, David, love what you’re doing, I’m going to help you to create growth. And I go back to them, and I go, I don’t need growth. And they say, Why? Why don’t you need growth? And I think to myself, because it’s just the word but people are seeking without defining what actually means to them. You know, if I can do whatever I want, whenever I want, and pay all my bills and go off on vacation, without any hassles, why am I adding more and more and more? And I think that is one of the things again, that people are, they’re going down that route that everybody else is going that they think, oh, growth? Yeah, that’s the key word. That’s what everybody needs. That’s what I need. But I argue all the time. I don’t need growth, I don’t want growth, I’m happy if my audience becomes five people, but those five people really take action and really do great stuff. More than a billion people who just listen and pay lip service. I think what we’re talking about here, we’re talking about the fear of, as you say, not fitting in the fear of doing something without asking permission, that fear of doing something that other people might think it’s a bit weird, doing stuff that other people might say is wrong, because it’s never been done before. But that is where the juice lies. That’s where the the adventures come. That’s where the the 1000 times are trying to build a light bulb, find the find success doesn’t enjoy it.
Jaryd Kruse [24:12]
Absolutely. Like if if we end up listening to those people, we just end up living the same life as them, you know, and growth. Like I’ve been through that phase of like, yeah, I just want big growth. And I want this big business. And I followed a mentor that I built a business that I didn’t love. And I had all these clients and I had all this money. And I was just I was really really got sick and I was working too much and I built this business. That was the same as what this mentor had done because I thought I wanted this money in this type of business when it’s just the worst thing for me like I had to pivot and it was like so growth is not like is not always the what we should have just because people think you know If you want to, you should always be moving up and growing in life, or growing in your business. And the reality is, like you said, if you had just five people that took action that listen to Join Up Dots, how much better is your life gonna be because you only have to speak to five people. And you know, you get to make a far better impact. Like, it’s, it’s just way better for everybody.
David Ralph [25:23]
We’re listening to Jared, let’s hear these words, and we’d be back with him. If you’re inspired to live a life on your own terms, working when you want where you want, once you sit back and make the decision of how much you want to earn two men, it’s all totally doable, and nowadays, easier than ever, head over to the starter business school at join up dots.com. And check out the video testimonials from just a few of the students that are now building their dream businesses after going through our coaching sessions. And if that excites them book a time to speak to me one to one to make sure you have what it takes to become the next success of our conveyor belt that started business school at join up dots.com. Now, one of the first things that I do, I’m going to share, pull back the curtain and talk about our sort of business school coaching. But one of the first things that I do, I think people expect me to do sort of key categories and sales funnels and SEO and this online structure. But basically, I always look at the person first of all, and I always get them to drill down their dream day. And then their dream week to set those kind of that that understanding of Yeah, if I want to wake up at 10 o’clock in the morning, then how do I structure everything to get it done? And how do I structure everything to get it done in three hours instead of seven hours. Because I think those are the powerful dots. But most of us miss at the beginning, where we stretch it into bigger and bigger and bigger time where actually the real success comes in doing it in smaller and smaller and smaller amount of time, so that you can then focus in on yourself as well. Do you think Jared?
Jaryd Kruse [27:04]
Absolutely. I’ve actually tested this in my life where I thought and I was working with, I’ve been working with spiritual mentor, I still am. And I was doing so at this time where I thought, all right, I just tried to grow my business more and more. And the best thing for me was to work less. And the less that I worked, the more the business made. And it wasn’t because I work less. The reason was, is because I had more time to do things that I loved, like things that actually fulfilled me and lit me up. And I was enjoy, you know, I was enjoy and enjoying life. So I would go and skate, I would go and serve, I’d play tennis and the more that my cup was filled up, when it came to the point that I was doing coaching calls or doing anything in my business, I was doing it from a place of such satisfaction and such fulfilment that are showing up far better. And this works on an energetic level and a spiritual level where you start to attract not what you think you want in your life based on, you know, what you think you should have, you start to attract what you need for what you came here for, for what your actual purposes, and things fall into line. And that only happens when you start to realise how do i optimise my business to get myself out of the way so I can be come a better asset for the business?
David Ralph [28:44]
And what do you think because I have gone 360 on this. And I never understand that for age because pre 60 shortly puts me back where exactly I was. But it seems to be but it’s at a different point to where I was, but I don’t understand that. But I’ve gone 360 Where at the beginning, it was all about global domination, bigger and bigger and bigger growth, growth, growth, ego, ego, ego, and everyone was gonna look in my direction and say, Oh, David, you’ve done so well, you’ve been so successful. Now I tried to get it through Join Up Dots VAT, it’s so powerful to instead of thinking, I want to create my own business, just think I want to pay my electricity bill each month and just have some little payment or you have to pay $200 $300 and think, What do I have to do to build that? Because it starts training the entrepreneurial opportunity mindset, where you look at it and you think, oh, yeah, I could buy that. And I could sell that on Ebay. I could do it. So it’s not like a business itself. It’s just making life easier for you by having other things paying your bills. What do you think about that Jared?
Jaryd Kruse [29:52]
The best strategy for somebody that’s either starting a business or or trying to achieve anything is start with a smaller A smaller goal. Because you what you want to do then is you want to set yourself up for success, right? Like if we set out the bar too high, typically and the timeframe too short, typically what happens is we get stressed. And when we get stressed, we start operating from a place of fear, and we don’t make the best decisions. And also, if we do try and get to this lofty goal that’s so big, then, and we don’t achieve it, what happens is internally, and whether you’re conscious of or not, might be unconscious, we tell ourselves, oh, I failed, or I’m and that can turn into on the failure, or this won’t succeed. And the more times that you have that happen, like you keep setting larger and larger goals, or keep setting goals that you don’t achieve in the timeframe you want to achieve them. The more times that happens repetitively, the compounding of you, unconsciously telling yourself that you are failing, and it’s not going to work, it just it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And then, you know, we give us more chance for to just stop, because we just don’t we stop believing in ourselves. Because we we haven’t set ourselves up for success. So many times we set ourselves up to fail. So I think by starting with a smaller thing of like, let’s just pay this $60 A month electricity bill, or whatever it is, let’s just get our business to that point, or our startup to that point. And then once we get there, then we can just go another step, you don’t need to go or I’m gonna pay off this $60 per month electricity bill. And then I want to make, I want to make $17,000 a month. And I want to be doing that within six months, like a lot of people look at our case studies and see that like this person achieved X result in x months, and then they join our programme. And it might happen to you too, David, they have set this expectation that if this person did that, that they can do it too, right. And we’re sharing a success story, which is typically abnormal, and the person that’s achieved that has a large career behind them before they even you know, the life, their life circumstances, not the same as somebody else. And they try and set this expectation on themselves and it doesn’t work out, then I think this this, this vehicle doesn’t work. It’s not the vehicle. It’s our own mindset. And that’s our own level of expectation that’s led us down and we’ve set ourselves up to fail. So absolutely start with a small thing.
David Ralph [32:22]
I’ll tell you a story, there was a guy came through to Join Up Dots coaching probably about five years ago now. And one of the things that we do is we look at the personal lifestyle, first of all, and then I say to them, right, I want you to go away for a couple of weeks, and I want you to come up with 30 potential business ideas, they can be stupid, they can be whatever, you know, but I want them to fall within three categories. And that’s things you can sell things you can tell and things you can do. And so do is always that you might have to do the work, but you get paid for it. So you could be a window cleaner, you could be a lawn mower, you know, whatever you want to do. And I break it down into these three categories. And this guy came back and he had five, he had two in one, two in another and one in the other. And I said to him, you must have come up with more than that. And he said, No, no, that’s all I could come up with. And so they were pretty poor ideas at the very beginning. And so we worked on it. And I said, Look, what we do, we just choose one, and then we will niche down, we’re trying to find a market within that. And then we build a business and just make you know, a few quid as I say on that one, but then you’ll see how it’s starting to work. And then when we’re rinse and repeat. And he couldn’t even do the first step. He got so hung up on creating a logo and the colour scheme of the website, but he couldn’t do the next thing. And then he stopped. And I said to him, come on, look, we’re going back to the beginning, we’re start again, we’ll come up with some really good ideas, and I really push you hard on that. And he said to me, how’s it going to be different this time? And I thought that’s you. That’s you, me, that’s that’s absolutely there’s nothing I can do with that. That’s you. And he kind of cut me off and I’ve never seen him again. But I was willing to go multiple times through the same thing to get him up and going. And I realised then, bam, one of the hardest things that you can do and sell in a business is other people’s effort. That’s an almost impossible business. But you’ve got a coaching business, and I’ve got a coaching business. So Haven’t we gone into an environment that actually we’ve created the hardest type of business when we’re actually trying to encourage educate and instil that grind in someone?
Jaryd Kruse [34:36]
Absolutely. You know what, David? I believe every coach and every consultant in any industry in any way shape or format is a therapist. Yeah, and and managing people’s emotions. So when people come to me with on a coaching call they have they want to grow their business and they have to 15 ideas or seven ideas or two ideas or whatever it is. And typically, I go through the call, and I chat to him about where they’re at. And then we narrow it down to like two tasks. And through the call is basically I’m just managing the expectation on managing where they’re at emotionally. And I’m just setting them up to feel good at the end of the call and empowered to go away and make a decision on one or two actionable tasks. And I believe that, you know, the best business coaches and consultants are basically therapists. And if they do that, well, like you do, David, you know, that’s where they get people results, because they’re helping people manage their emotional state and what’s in the way, which is so many mindset things through societal conditioning, and all that stuff.
David Ralph [35:56]
So do you get to a point because I do with Join Up Dots sometimes, but I close it down, I still do the podcast. But as for the coaching and stuff, I think to myself, now I need a break from this, I need, you know, I can’t be the missionary, walking the earth, trying to encourage every single person, occasionally, I have to put my own mask on. So I might close it down for three or four months. And I’ve actually done that this this summer. And I’m just about to open it again now, which is one of the reasons actually thinking about it that I asked you to come back on the show again, because you said to me, you only have maybe 10 clients a year now, but you actually deal with personally. So are you bringing better energy to those 10 clients? Because you’re not dealing with trying to be this Messiah for so many people?
Jaryd Kruse [36:44]
Absolutely. And I get to choose who I work with, like I’m at the start, I will just take anyone, right, like I was in survival phase of like, I need to get some money.
David Ralph [36:56]
We’ve all been there. We have all been there.
Jaryd Kruse [36:59]
Yeah. But that’s your question as well. The other one, the first one of like, do you ever take a break? I did, I had to take a break. I had too many coaching clients at once. And I stopped for two years. And I told everybody not mode, no more one to one coaching. And then I got to a point. And I was like, I wasn’t fulfilled in my I wasn’t as fulfilled in my business, because I went from all coaching lots of calls to a one to many sort of aspect without too much involvement for me. And I really lost, I was really like, I feel like I’m in just a flat plateau spot. I wasn’t because the business is growing, but energetically I did. And then I thought I’ll bring on clients, but I only bring on a max of like 10 to 20 a month. And yeah, I’ve stayed at that since and I have gotten to a point where I have a pretty strict interview process. Same Same with you basically, David, when you get somebody on as a podcast, or somebody that you’re going to work with, make sure that we fit energetically. And sometimes that doesn’t work out as well. And after two coaching calls, I’m like, Look, I don’t know if I’m the person for you. And we move on. And it’s the best thing because, you know, me trying to force somebody to do something is like, I can’t let literally, you know, if somebody wants to do something, they they’re the ones that has to do it. Right. I can’t make somebody I can give them short term motivation, which doesn’t last, but really is that they need to be ready for coaching. And if they’re not ready for it, then it’s like move on and come back when you are ready.
David Ralph [38:39]
He’s a fundamental thing. You know, I’m swimming every day, every day after I do this, I’m recording, I’m off to the swimming baths. And I do 32 limbs, I was doing a lot more. But now I just do 32 limbs as fast as I can do it get out, bang, it’s done. And on the wall, it says a couple of things. And one of the ones it says motivation is what gets you started habits is what keeps you coming. And I think yeah, okay, I can see that. But on the other side, it says success is different for everyone. So define your success before you start or something along on that. Now, I think bad as a coach, I think that’s probably what we do really badly. And I think that we and I used to do it really badly on Join Up Dots, but also really good. I used to really try to get everyone to believe that it’s possible and you can do it. And it’s and I still believe that totally. But I believe it’s only right for certain people. Other people, no matter how often you say it to them, they’re never going to get it. They’re never going to do it. It’s just one of those things that they will be if only on their deathbed. So when you’re laying in your bed, and you’re thinking Ah I can’t be bothered today. How do you actually find that? Motivation is what gets you started habits is what keeps you Going likes on the side of my swimming pool, what do you tap into?
Jaryd Kruse [40:07]
That’s a good question. Um, I am very different to most people now. So I’ll give you a what I do what I do now. And then I’ll give you what I what I used to do when I was in survival phase, because I think it’s different when you’re at a different level, or a different position in your life, I should say. So now when I am like, Hmm, I don’t feel like working, I don’t work. Because I don’t try and force something and create something that is out of like, necessity and fear. And like, I need to grind this out and make it happen. Sometimes there are points where I’ve like, I’ve got a call scheduled, and I’m like, Look, I don’t particularly want to be here for it. But I snap myself into showing up because I’ve made a commitment. And I’m gonna take full responsibility that I have to show up for that, right. But in the earlier days, when I’m like, I’m getting out of bed, and I’m like, Ha, this is it feels a bit more heavier to do the work. And what would get me going is inspiration. So not motivation, I wouldn’t put on like a listen to something or Tony Robbins rah rah rah stuff. I would come back to like, what’s my perfect life? Like what you go through with people? Like, what what is your ideal life? What is it going to look like? What are you doing, when you wake up, what’s the next thing you do after breakfast, or whatever you do, you know, go through your perfect life. And if you don’t yet have it, that builds inspiration within me to go away and want to do the work. And that’s that’s how I was doing it at the start. Now I’m a little bit I’m a little bit different, because I don’t know I’m just in a phase of life where I’m like, What’s going to happen is going to happen for a reason. And I think I feel I feel very, I feel very differently about a lot of the self help stuff that that is put out there. I think a lot of it is it can work to a certain extent. But then you need to break those habits and do something completely different. And I think a lot of it needs to be improved and debunked.
David Ralph [42:30]
We are the people to debunk it. As I was saying to you earlier, all this being about and this was before the show, we was recording all this thing about you do something for 21 days, and it’s a habit, I don’t think you ever get habits really done. I think whatever you do just comes down to you wanting to do it. And as soon as you stop doing it, you’ve stopped doing it. I don’t think I don’t think you can form habits.
Jaryd Kruse [42:55]
Well, I think you’ve right, David, I think it’s coming back to what I’m sort of saying and alluding to is that if it doesn’t feel right for you, why are you doing it? You know, and that’s the same going like if you’re trying to grow a business, and you’re trying to achieve this goal of this level of access for an image of something that you’ve made her based on what society deems what success looks like, if it doesn’t feel right for you. Please frickin stop doing it. Because you’re going to get there and you’re not going to be thrilled, you’re not going to be happy. And then you’re going to be no good to nobody. I’ve been there. I’ve done that, right. So same with just a small habit of like, if you’re trying to do something, just for the sake of like, I think I need to do it, it’s probably you’re probably doing the wrong thing. Try and find something that lights you up. And that’s gonna be the best business you can ever built. We’ve got
David Ralph [43:45]
a podcast episode, it’s either gone live or it hasn’t gone live I am at the moment as we’re recording, I’m about five months ahead of schedule, which is which is a lovely place to be where you just look at it. And then they stretch out to the February next year is it or something like that. And I could basically turn off the microphone, and that’s it Join Up Dots still goes live. And one of the ones is a motivational comment that somebody made. And it’s just a vision simplifies life. And what it is, is if you’ve got that vision in your head, and you really know what you’re aiming for, then all the decisions that take you further away from that vision, you don’t do them all the ones that might push you closer to them, you do them. And I think with yourself and with myself and with other people at a certain point. I think the vision has become stronger, where we’re more cemented in where we’re heading. And once you get that direction. I think a lot of the issues that had us throwing things at the wall and hoping that they would stick trying to do this thing for $50 trying to do you just say no, no, no until the right thing comes along. And I do say that it’s easier once you get past paying the bills because that is you know the key thing if you if you I’m sitting there going, No, no, no and you’re not paying your mortgage, then something’s gonna go badly wrong. But once you get to that certain point, I think the vision is, is the key thing. And my vision over the last three months has probably become stronger than it’s ever been.
Jaryd Kruse [45:16]
Or I love that for you absolutely love that for you that your vision has become stronger than it’s ever been. I would love to dig into and ask why. But I also want to back up and emphasise something that you have mentioned around the, what you say you need to pay the bills, I call it the survival phase. And I think it’s worth having the vision of getting out of the survival phase and what that looks like. And yes, that can be grindy. And that can, you know, cause some, you, we need to make some sacrifices to get there. I think once you’re out of that, then you have then you can sacrifice less. And then you don’t need to be as attached to the vision like you I feel being attached to the vision of you getting other survival phase is healthy, because it’s going to get you to the next step, where you can get to the point that you have your vision, you should not be attached to your vision, you should be the opposite, you should be unattached to the vision, where the vision will change based on what fulfils you most in life. Because if you do become attached to a certain vision of life call, I’ve made it past the 10 grand a month range. And now and you might have another vision of like, I need to get to a million dollars a month range in your business or life or whatever it is. Is that the right vision for you? I think we should always question our vision, in fact, to a point where like, is this right? Like get very, very suspicious on? Where am I headed? Is that the right thing for me. And if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it. And if it feels great, do more of it. And then your vision can adapt and evolve and change.
David Ralph [46:58]
Shall I show you my vision, what my vision is Joe is very simply what I wanted to hear. It’s a very simple vision. But basically, I imagined me with a big wintry coat on and I got wintry coat on and I’ve got boots on. So it’s not like the vision of being on a beach and stuff that would just leave me cold. I hate beaches, you’re so far away from the toilet, toilets and everything you got washed yourself down and stuff. But I’ve got a wintry coat on. And I’m in a town somewhere like in Canada or somewhere. So you can imagine there’s all sorts of woods around me and stuff. And I’m just sitting on this bench. And I don’t know where I am. I don’t know where I’m going and a bus turns, I just get on the bus. And I just say I want to go to the next town. And that is my vision. And what that ties into is, I don’t know where I’m heading. I don’t know where I’ve been basically. But it’s totally under my terms, I either get on that bus or I don’t get on that bus, you know, it’s fat, total location, time, freedom. And that is the vision. So everything that I do, I think to myself, if this is keeping me locked in front of this computer, or this PC, whatever, then it can’t happen. And in many ways, it makes the path longer, because it’s so easy to get clients and the clients pay you and stuff. But then you’re trapping yourself behind your computer screen or whatever you’re doing. And so that’s that is my vision, I look at this bench in my head, and wrapped up in a bus comes along, I just get on it and I go off somewhere, I don’t know where I’m going, I don’t know how long I’m going to be there. And every decision I’m making my business is based on that.
Jaryd Kruse [48:32]
That is so amazing. Absolutely amazing. And I’ve I’ve had glimpses of that in my life where I would quit my plumbing job. And I’d be a wave travelling for a year and I just would just get on a train and I’d go to the next place and just go wherever it was and what you’re doing then David is you’re you’re able to I believe with that vision. You’re able to do what I think most of our goals should goals should be is you’re able to be completely present with life. Yeah, and, and just whatever, you’re just able to just react to whatever shows up and whatever happens in your life and be so damn present. Go. Yeah, this bus looks good. Okay, I’ll get off at this stop. Excellent. You don’t have to you don’t have to worry about time, you’d have to worry about money. Like you could just get off. Like for example, you could just say I’m just gonna get off on this bus and you might have your bank card. You could be in Canada, and you just get off on any you know, when it starts getting dark or when you start feeling tired. You’re just getting to get off and pay for a room somewhere.
David Ralph [49:38]
I saw a documentary amazing. Yeah, I saw a documentary Joey David Beckham, the footballer which is, and he was driving through Brazil with his mates. And so he’d always wanted to do this thing. And it wasn’t until he retired that he had a bit of time so he did this documentary. And basically you don’t realise until you see his documentary How famous David Beckham is that he could walk into a Brazilian jungle that had no Telly hasn’t seen a white person for like 100 years. And they go out Beckham, as soon as he walks through the door, you know, it was it was astonishing. And there was a bit where he broke down. And he was on a crossroads in the middle of the jungle, and it was just to dust tracks. And he was sitting on his motorbike. And he looks at the camera, and he says, you know, this is the first time I can remember. But I haven’t been told I’ve got to be somewhere, or I haven’t been somewhere. I don’t know what’s going to happen. I’m just totally present in a moment. And I thought, Oh, my God, you’re David Beckham. And all you’re doing is being pushed from pillar to post all the time, you’ve got to be here, you’ve got to be there, you’ve got to do this, you’ve got to do that. And it set a chill through me. And I remember watching this and thinking to myself, that’s the last thing that I ever want. And I think from that moment, it was just like a programme I stumbled across. I think that’s cemented where everything leads to, for me that ability to and tying it back in. That’s one of the reasons now that I think I’ve never had a mobile phone. And I’ve never wanted one. Because I hate the thought of people being able to beat me and contact me wherever I go. I don’t have anything, but I can’t switch off and leave behind. And people say what happens about an emergency? What happens if this Oh, Saudi emergency is sort itself out? You know, but I think my whole life has led to this, this fear of being totally directed at all time, without being able to go, I’m just going to do it, because I can’t see it. Make sense?
Jaryd Kruse [51:36]
Yeah, for me, it definitely makes sense. Like, I listen to a lot of spiritual lecturers and teachers and they haven’t made right, they don’t worry about a thing. And they just know that they are held by the universe, and they just rock up and like, Yeah, I’ll just do this, or I’ll just be here, and they’ll stay wherever they want for however long they want lawanna, they’ll just speak to whoever they want. And they’re not trying to check in on things. Like, the more. You know, that’s one reason I just, the worst thing for me would be is to be a billionaire. And running and Bill, running a billion dollar company for me as a not would be an absolute nightmare. Right, like just having too many manage that much. Or even just if you’re not managing anything, even if he’s the owner, and you just need to rock up to a board meeting, or you have a CEO that rocks up just having to have that meeting. I mean, you still got to do it like every, every quarter, or whatever it is, like if it’s, it’s a beautiful, it’s a beautiful thing to be totally off the grid. And then you’ve got the opportunity to tap into it whenever you want.
David Ralph [52:55]
And I think the beauty of being off the grid is not a location thing. I think it’s a mindset thing. And, and that took me years to realise, but people say, oh, I want to be off the grid. But actually, they’re not off the grid in their head. You know, I was talking to my son the other day, and my son, he looks at you sometimes. And I say to him, you’ve got that look that you could strangle me without any emotion. You know, like you imagine serial killers have got, you ask him something. And he just kind of looks at you. And there’s no emotion or anything in his face. And he’s a lovely lady really is sort of caring is as tight as anything with his money. It’s unbelievable. We’ve just bought him a new car, we bought him a new car, and pay for the insurance and everything, put a tank of fuel in it. And I said, oh, I’ll just jump in your car to go off somewhere. And because we were using the fuel that we put into the car that we’ve just bought for him, his face was like, as I say, you know, he was less than happy. And I said to him, you will end up being a multimillionaire, then you’ll be a multimillionaire because you are brilliant at spending other people’s money. And as I said, this, I thought to myself, that is what entrepreneurship about, I’ve always looked for a definition for entrepreneurship. And I’ve always used to say it’s the ability to make things up as you go along and still want to keep going. But actually, I think it’s the ability to spend other people’s money on things that you want to do. I think he’s got entrepreneurship in him, which I did realise.
Jaryd Kruse [54:30]
Absolutely. spending other people’s money and other people’s time. Like so what was the one thing that I got from a wealth coach, it was like, and I used to be at this level, I would call it Poor, poor people will spend their time to make money. Rich people will spend their money to make time. Yeah. And so you’re buying other people’s time and you’re using other people’s money to buy that time. On the double whammy is it’s an it’s phenomenal as long as you understand the game of finance a little bit, like what they say in property investing is like property investing is just a game of finance with a few properties thrown in the middle. Right. And it could be same in business. It could be same in life, like the game of life and being financially independent, I would say, sorry, is understanding finance and having a few assets in the middle?
David Ralph [55:31]
I think that’s totally right. You know, I’m at the point being totally transparent. I’m at the time of my life now. But the amount of savings and stuff I’ve got in the bank account, the interest each month, pays all my bills, I don’t actually have to do anything anymore. So every, when they have that thing about older mortgage rates are going up and this going up? I feel sorry for people? Of course I do. Because my daughters are in that situation. And they’re paying for mortgages that are going up. But actually, I think I don’t care if the interest rate goes up to 100%. Because it’s just,
Jaryd Kruse [56:04]
it’s just interest money for you. Because you’re getting more interest from the bank.
David Ralph [56:08]
Yeah, absolutely. So I got to that point in my life when I don’t actually have to do anything as well. And so then everything that I do is not financial is time. And that’s what we keep on coming back to in here is that mindset switch of saying, Your whole life is under your control. Every bit of time you want to do yesterday afternoon, I couldn’t be bothered to do anything. So me and my son wants to Jason Steven films back to back. And we like the type of films Jared where you can kind of go, yeah, Jason Statham is going to be a plumber. But he’s walks into the town and somebody pisses him off, and then he can beat everybody up. And we like to describe the story before we even watch it so that we go Yeah, that’s exactly what he was, because that’s what he always does. But it’s just that ability to go can’t be bothered or do this instead.
Jaryd Kruse [57:03]
It’s so beautiful, like, time is Yeah, is our greatest resource. And we, you know, we do end up focusing a lot, I think, from conditioning, and from what we’re told is like, yeah, you need, you need a lot of money. And once we get past a survival phase, it’s IOSH. If you I think that’s a tricky one as well, for a lot of people is trying to read the whole thing, like more and more and more and more and more money once you get past the survival phase. Otherwise, you can slip into the more money and more materialism phase, which a lot of people do. But if people work out, work it out along the path, that it’s all about time and experiences, because you can’t take your assets, you can’t take your money with you. But what you can take with you is experiences and I work this out when I was travelling back in 2016. As I spent a lot of time travelling, I was away surfing around the world for a year and a half, by myself. And I had some incredible experiences with some amazing people I just met. And I realised like Damn these, these experiences are so damn precious. But I worked out that when I had mates that came and travelled with me, those experiences were far more valuable. Because I would, I was able to go home and reminisce those experiences time and time and time again. And that the more you reminisce them, the more ROI you get from those experiences. So I believe experiences with the people you love, are the most cherished thing in my life, and the most valuable thing. And to be able to have those you need time.
David Ralph [58:47]
You certainly do. And I need time to play these words, because we play them on every show. So I’m going to do it again, Steve Jobs, of course,
Speaker 4 [58:53]
it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [59:27]
Now I was saying to somebody the other day, and oh, it’s my wife, it was my wife, I have a phrase because we’re all getting older. And I say to her, stop fighting it. We’re all getting older and uglier. We can’t do anything about it. Just Just accept where you are and sort of move on. And one of the things I said to her is the only thing you can trust is that you will run out of time. So make the most of the time that you’ve got. Now Steve Jobs talks about trust bear. And we are we’re all on borrowed time. Every single one of us and some people do amazing things, and other people do, you know, sort of minimal, you know, they end up in a terrible state for whatever reason they have. Now, what I will say to you is, if you’ve got all the time, this is a leading question. This is where my mind is at the moment, Jared, if you suddenly had all the time in the world, it wasn’t going to run out. Would you still be happy with how you are? Or would you go, Oh, we’ve got all this time. And we’re going to actually do this and that and what what would you actually do?
Jaryd Kruse [1:00:35]
Such a good question. I love this question. For me, I will continue doing a portion of what I am doing now the shore, I absolutely love it. That said, I still have things that I want to continue to do. And I want to experience new things. I want to experience different things in business, I want to experience different things in life. And so I would definitely continue if I had infinity amount of time, which, depending on how spiritual spiritual you are, you may believe that you do, which I do believe. Well, I would continue doing a lot of what I’m doing now for sure. And I mean, I explained what my day to day of life is at the moment. But I would be definitely open to the vision changing to me be doing different things in terms of philanthropic projects, different projects that light me up at different stages in my life. Like sometimes I feel like surfing. And sometimes I feel like playing tennis. So I would, you know, it’s not like, if I just had all the time in the world, would I just serve all the time? No, because sometimes I might get a little bit tired of it. And sometimes I might get a little bit tired of tennis. So I would experiment with doing something different with my time as well. But I will continue doing the core things that I absolutely love. Like, those hobbies that I mentioned, maybe a little bit of work, the work might change. And then spending time doing, having experiences with the people, I love travelling and stuff like that. As well as like, you know, sometimes I might go through a different season of I don’t want to travel as much because I’m a little bit tired from it, let’s try something different.
David Ralph [1:02:26]
I think what you said there, the key thing is experiences, you’re looking to gain more experiences mentally physically location based, and that is only available with time, you know, time time time is everything that’s run through this conversation. But you can’t have that if your boss is saying, You’ve got to be at your desk at eight o’clock. And you can’t leave till six o’clock. You know, these experiences. I love watching programmes and films and saying to my kids, and I used to sort of wind me up for it. I’ve been there. Yeah, I’ve been there. And now they do it themselves. Because they’ve been places you know. And I love that, that that feeling of I want to see every single blade of grass on this planet. And I know it’s never gonna happen. But when I’m going on a trip, I never just close my eyes and a half asleep, I’m always looking out the window, because I think I might never see that little thing again. That’s That’s my only opportunity.
Jaryd Kruse [1:03:25]
And that’s so cool, right? Like knowing that there’s, you’re not going to see it all. But knowing that you can, you can work towards seeing as much as you can, whilst you’re here and your vision of like, just being somewhere and just jumping on a bus is essentially exactly what that is. It’s sort of you responding to what’s in front of you, being present, watching the grass, and then going somewhere else again, with the time that you have to see, you know, grass, snow, mountains, ocean, whatever it is, then that’s like, that’s the best.
David Ralph [1:04:06]
So getting back to that Steve Jobs speech. I am intrigued about you because I can hear a difference between the Jared who was on the last show, and the Jared now and I’ll tell you what the difference is. You seem calmer somehow you seem more just relaxed it there seems an energy of peace, but wasn’t quite there on the first show. Now, you might have been in business mode and been more presenting but it sounds like you’ve sort of found the more connected Jared to your real science itself. Would I be right and could you sort of define that to adopt when that suddenly started coming your way?
Jaryd Kruse [1:04:48]
Or yes, you’re absolutely right. I am more at peace and free meaning that back to a dot what? Why is that it does come to let me just sort of process and digest how this is how I’m answering this, as I just talk, it comes back to the Steve Jobs, what he was saying is trust, trust, that’s, you are going to be able to join up the dots. And for me, like I being out of the survival phase, and I was last time we talked as well, but I wanted I was working towards what I thought I wanted in a different type of business, and a different type of vision. And I think what the dot that has allowed me to be more peaceful, is realising that I can trust the universe, and I can I can trust myself, and the universe is gonna give me exactly what I need at the right time to fulfil the purpose that I’m here for. And knowing that I can change my vision, and be okay with that. And like I said earlier, is be sceptical about my vision at times, I’m like, Whoa, do I really want? What will my life be? Like if I was living that? And what part about it do I like and what part about it don’t I like, and trusting that everything’s gonna happen the way it should for me? I mean, I meditate every day. I have a spiritual practice. It’s very different to what most people do. And yeah, I don’t know the against this me. There’s something beautiful David about getting out of survival phase. And I know I sound very privileged in this in this aspect. And I I’ve pushed for most people to get there. But once you can drop, drop that energetic charge of trying to make things happen. And allowing them to happen. Life becomes far more beautiful. And for me, what’s the dot? I think? the.is me. I don’t know, somehow mentally and energetically getting to that point of realising like, Damn, I’m, I’m good. Like, financially, I’m good. And for most of my life, I was struggling to get to that financial independence and that Financial Freedom State and me realising that I have gotten there, that’s probably the dot that allowed me to become far more peaceful.
David Ralph [1:07:40]
It’s a great, it’s a great doc to have, isn’t it? That That moment when you realise I’m okay, you can surrender to everything. It’s it is what it is.
Jaryd Kruse [1:07:53]
It’s absolutely and right now, I mean, I couldn’t go. I mean, you know, I could go a whole year of not working, but I don’t know, I don’t think it would be mentally stimulating for me. But I think you and I are David, we could go sit in Canada, and just pick any bus that we wanted. And to know that you can do that. So it’s a crazy feeling. Like it’s, it’s so bizarre to even talk about it now, knowing that I know what what you probably went through, you know, in your journey to get to that out of the survival phase. But, I mean, I spent most of my life in the survival phase. And it’s like, it’s, it’s a, it’s a tricky one, it’s a really tricky one to get to. And I think the dangerous bit, is what I talked about before is that people may or may be out of survival phase, but may not stop and reflect to see that they’re out of survival phase, and make that Bob bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, and then still stay there energetically and, and pushing to something that is not fulfilling to them versus going ah, I’m good. Like, I don’t, I don’t need I don’t need more like you say you don’t need growth. Cool. And in fact, David, you don’t need anything. Right. And that’s a that’s a tricky, that’s a tricky one to get to. So like, I definitely applaud you and even I’ll applaud myself, I’m pretty proud of it like and it’s a it’s a tricky one because it’s what is out there in terms of the media of like, once you get to $10,000 Let’s get you to 100 and a million a month and all that sort of stuff. Like if you get caught in that trap, then you may never feel this, this feeling that you and I both are privileged to have.
David Ralph [1:09:55]
Yeah, and I can just clarify to everybody the it’s it’s Not easy to get to is incredibly hard to get to. But it’s totally doable. And I just believe that the dots join up, start small, start working on something, get a little bit of success. And then that fosters the belief. And then you can keep building it up, don’t try to create some global entity is just too big for you just start off with just going into your local charity shop, finding something and then thinking, Can I sell that on eBay for an extra two pounds, or whatever it is? It’s just those tiny little things that actually make you realise that it’s all possible. And then you can get to a point where you’re gonna go, Yeah, I’m okay. And once you get to that point, it’s just, it’s weight off.
Jaryd Kruse [1:10:47]
Can I Can I just add something that? Yeah, spot on. I agree, it is tricky. And it is tough to get there. And for me, in my business and my life, when I achieve more wealth and stuff like I have, and acquire more assets and things. Why, while people may be like, well, that’s, that’s be like, That’s you’ve achieved this level of success. And like, whoa, like, that’s, you know, really, really hard for you to get there. I still look back and say, getting out of the survival phase is the hardest probably will be ever the hardest thing that I’ve had to do. And it may be the same for everybody else. Because you’ve got little like for me to go and buy an asset. Like I’ve got resources, and I’m in a, in a better position than I was, but when I had next to nothing, and also, no, not much time, because I was working a job as a plumber. Like, it’s definitely probably the best achievement that I’ve may ever achieve. Even if I end up getting to a point where I’m a billionaire, I can still would probably be the be the hardest thing that I’ve had to achieve. So yeah, I think that we should emphasise that for people as well, because I mean, you and I, David, I mean, we get the struggle.
David Ralph [1:12:05]
We totally get the struggle. And in many ways, I’m still living the struggle because I’m not struggling. I’m so trained to struggle. But actually, when you’re not struggling, you feel bad about yourself. It’s really weird. Anyway, that’s gonna be another conversation on the next time you’re on the show, Jared, I’m sure it is. But I’m what we’re gonna do this time, we’ve led up to the point where you are going to go on your second journey on the Sermon on the mic. But this time you don’t choose which Jared, you get to speak to you choose to Jared, who was last on the show, three or four years ago? What would you like to tell him if you could go back in time and join up some dots? Well, we’re gonna play the music. And when it fades, we’re gonna find out. This is the Sermon on the mic.
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Jaryd Kruse [1:13:13]
Thank you, David. Hello, younger Jared. Wow. So firstly, it’s great to chat to you. Pretty awesome opportunity for myself to mentor and hopefully amazing for you to hear these words. And hopefully, they are incredibly valuable for you. And I just want to extend all the love to you in where you’re at in your life and know that you are held and loved and supported. And a few things that I would love to share with you is be careful. Be careful of what you consume. And I don’t not just talking about food. I’m talking about what you watch what you listen, and also what you see that can help condition you in a way that may not actually benefit you and what your life purposes. So question. Question what you hear, question what you feel, touch, see and ask yourself, Does this resonate? Is this right for me? Does this make me feel good? Does this make me feel fulfilled? And if it does feel good for you use it as a tool. If it doesn’t drop it like a hot potato because you don’t need that in your life. And it’s totally fine to accept that what is right for you and feels good for you may not be right for others and vice versa. But also, to set yourself up for success. There’s many things that you can do. One of which is not setting the bar too high. And not feeling that if you want to get to a point where you’re earning 10 grand a month, or 100 grand a month that you need to get there, in a short period of time, even though other people may have done in what appears to be a short amount of time, set yourself up as to see success by just trying to make your goal and your achievement one step on the staircase, not 10 to 1520 to 30. Stairs, set the bar low, set yourself up for success, and put one step in front of the other. And know that you don’t have a limited amount of time may feel like you do, because you may feel like you need to achieve all these sorts of things, arrange of certain things in a certain amount of time. But the reality is that time is not against you. As much as you may feel it is, in fact, time is with you. And let me explain that, when a lot of people try to achieve their goal, they put a timeframe on it. And that timeframe causes stress and pressure. And typically, that the more stress we are the least capable we are of making good decisions. Versus if we have time and space, we can make far better decisions. And when you give yourself a longer lead time, you definitely set yourself up for success. But another more beautiful thing happens as well. The more time that you spend doing something, the more you learn. And the more time you spend doing something and the more that you learn, the more the compounding kicks in. And so the more you keep doing something over time, you’re going to achieve far better results. So understand by you doing something for longer, it’s actually in your benefit, because you’re going to learn more along the journey. And everything you learn is going to compound in terms of resources, and money, and things that you need to achieve what you want to achieve. And if you can make your decisions based on love, not fear. When you are grabbing at something, typically you’re stressed and you’re making a decision based on fear and trying to achieve something versus being empowered. And when you are empowered, you’re making decisions based on out of love. And that’s typically going to get you closer to your purpose.
David Ralph [1:17:48]
Powerful stuff. Powerful stuff. So Jared, for everyone who’s been listening on this podcast, which I can tell you is the longest podcast we’ve ever done in 10 years of Join Up Dots. See, we’ve got all the time in the world, we can just make it make it happen. So what’s the best way for our audience to connect with you?
Jaryd Kruse [1:18:07]
Cool. My name is Jared Kraus. You can type that into Google. Or you could type in buying online businesses.com into Google or buying online businesses into YouTube and all the platforms.
David Ralph [1:18:20]
I always called you crap. I’m not sure I didn’t say Krause. Did I accrues. I said Cruz as in Tom Cruise.
Jaryd Kruse [1:18:27]
That’s, that’s totally fine. I’m pretty cruisy Yeah. Okay. Well, we’ll
David Ralph [1:18:31]
go with that. But Jared, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And of course, please come back again, when you’ve got even more dots to join up. Because I believe that by joining up those dots and connecting our pasts is the best way to build our futures. Jared, thank you so much.
Jaryd Kruse [1:18:50]
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. Amazing questions as always and yeah, always and leaving our conversations very, very happy.
David Ralph [1:19:03]
So Mr. Jared Cruz or Krauss Yes. Krauss that’s what he said not like Tom Cruise. But yeah, it’s, it’s so interesting to hear somebody go on a journey where you do have to grind it out, you do have to get your idea. You do have to get to a point when you’re paying your bills, but then after that, you can say, that’s okay, I don’t need more and more and more, I’d prefer to go surfing I prefer to play tennis. Getting past that point of survival. First of all, is the big step. But honestly, if you get your fixed direction, and you just get your head down and you do that, it doesn’t take too long. It’s when people get to a certain point and then go, oh, it’s not working. I’ll try something else on board of it. And they go back and forth. We all do it. And that’s why contacting Jared or contacting me just for a bit of help and guidance can can speed you forward. So that’s what we’re here for. To help you guys get to the same stage. So yeah, thank you so much for listening to this episode. As I say, it’s the longest episode we’ve ever done on Join Up Dots. Hopefully you’ve enjoyed it as much as I have. Until next time, we’ll see you again. Cheers. See ya. Bye bye.
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