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Introducing Jonathan Chase Hypnotist Extraordinaire
Jonathan Chase hypnotist is today’s guest joining us on the show.
He is a man with a special talent, attached to a desire to entertain, educate and inspire his clients to be the best that they can be.
Most people never get close to being the full version of themselves due to their limiting beliefs.
Their mental anchors, and quite frankly the inability to supercharge themselves by tapping into the talents they have lying dormant deep within them.
That was never going to be the case for Jonathan chase
Today’s guest was determined to be the best he could be once he found the true passion in his life.
When The Dots Started Joining Up For Jonathan Chase
All of a sudden he was going to become Jonathan Chase hypnotist, master of hypnosis and the power of the subconscious mind.
He came across his natural talent for hypnosis and suggestion in the hotel De France in Jersey.
He watched a show-band drummer hypnotize a young lady, who was then told that a toy dog a little boy was playing with,was a fully grown lion.
The resulting mayhem convinced him he had to discover more about the mind and imagination, he had to know why reality can change so quickly.
Through that obsession, his own reality changed.
He not only found that those skills being used on over 70,000 people across the world, he also found himself on the stages of London to the shiny lights of Las Vegas.
The Struggles That Could Have Stopped Him
He was born with an inherited a form of Muscular Dystrophy called Charcot Marie Tooth disease.
At 19 he was told, after a year undergoing disastrously bad surgery and physio, that he should only do sit down jobs.
No one would have expected him to instead become “Jonathan Chase – Britain’s Leading Hypnotist” .
As he says “The trick of success is to use what comes out of, and goes in to the Subconscious Mind”
He certainly does this everyday with stunning effect.
So what made him push himself to tackle bigger and bigger challenges when he could have simply settled for the lifestyle that others expected of him.
And are there tips that all of us can start using today that can see us soar and defy expectations?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Jonathan Chase.
During the show we discussed such deep subjects such as:
Jon shares how we should enjoy the benefits of working with high ticket clients.
They value what your offer is, and you also need a lot less of them to build a dream life.
How a business is all about focus. Get the focus right and your business will lead to the ultimate sophistication…….perfect simplicity.
We discuss how humans are the only creators on the planet, due to the power of their imagination.
We should spend a lot more time in our minds and be in harmony with our subconscious.
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Audio Transcription Of Jonathan Chase Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:21]
Yes. Hello there. Good morning. Good morning to you and welcome to an episode of join up dots This is going to be a good one today because this guy, he’s more than a guest, I would say that he is a friend and not just a friend, a special friend, who I’ve really had a delight to bond with over the last year or so it’s probably a bit longer than that. He’s a lovely guy. He can be very cantankerous. He’s already told me some rude words this morning on Facebook, but that’s what I expect from him. But it certainly is going to be a guest, who is a man with a special talent attached to a desire to entertain, educate, and inspire these clients to be the best that they can be. Now most people never get close to being the full version of themselves due to their limiting beliefs, mental anchors, and quite frankly, the inability to supercharge themselves by tapping into the talents they have lying dormant deep within them. Now that was never going to be the case. But today’s guest as he was determined to be the best he could be. Once he found the true passion in his life, hypnosis and the power of the subconscious mind. Now he came across his natural talent for hypnosis and suggestion in the hotel de France in Jersey when he wants to show band drama hypnotize a young lady, who has been told by a toy dog a little boy was playing with was a fully grown lion. Now the resulting mayhem convinced him he had to discover more about the mind and imagination, he had to know why reality can change so quickly. Now for about obsession, his own reality changed and he not only found but those skills being used on over 70,000 thousand people across the world. He also found himself on this stage London to the shiny lights of Las Vegas, which is credited A man has been born with an inherited a form of muscular dystrophy called shocked movie tooth disease. He was told at 19 after a year undergoing disastrously bad surgery in physio, that he should only do sit down jobs no one would have expected him to instead become Britain’s leading hypnotist. As he says the trick of success is to use what comes out of and goes into the subconscious mind. And he certainly does this every day with stunning effect. So what made him push himself to tackle bigger and bigger challenges when he could have simply settled, but the lifestyle but others expected of him and other tips that all of us can start using today back and see us saw and defy expectations? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start joining us with the one and only Jonathan Chase. Morning, Jonathan, how are you sir.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [2:56]
Good morning David that isn’t wonderful in production.
David Ralph [3:00]
You deserve it, you deserve it. And you know, it’s funny when I don’t know the guest, I breezed through them. That took me about three days, three
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [3:08]
days because I wrote anyway.
David Ralph [3:13]
I just I just took out the sexy bit, the young bit, I took out all the bows and just sort of breezed over. So how are you doing in your world because I know that you’ve got a lot on your plate. what’s what’s going on in the world?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [3:27]
We’re in we’re in the process of segue in in two more into the personal and professional development scene. We’ve been entirely focused on hypnosis, hypnosis, training up for many years. And then about four years ago, we had what I call the business, the business explosion week, we got to the point where the business got bigger than I was. and gentlemen, gentlemen on, as you know, James minority, and we got to the point where we were having to bring in teams we were having to bring in or the trainers, and people were coming in with their own criteria and their own way of doing things. And that didn’t sit well with me, because I’m a narcissist. So but you know, we’ve got to the point where I said, Right, well, that’s enough, I’m retiring. And we sort of semi retired for about two or three years. And then more and more people started getting in touch with us and saying, Look, I’m successful, but I want my success to go to the next level. Yeah, you know, I’ve got style, I’ve got stymied. And we did a couple of those. So needs, it’s, you know, in the business, we call them high ticket clients. And what we realized was that we actually enjoy doing that. And Jane runs a small publishing business, so that LinkedIn with with the, with the subconscious success training, to the point where we focusing on that this year, so yes, we’re, we’ve got new book, we’ve got a new book, that new website, we’ve got on putting together a new presentation, which is sort of like stage hypnosis, without the hypnosis, more mentalism and mind reading thing to show people how they change their reality by working with not against their subconscious. And we’re putting all that together. And of course, it’s it’s a lot of work. But you know, work is the cost of success. And once you’ve done it, as we both know, and once you’ve done the really hard work, putting it all together and getting it ready to go. Then if you’re doing it, right, you’re just, it just runs. And after that becomes couple fun.
David Ralph [5:58]
Yeah, I agree with that, hopefully. And what I’d like to touch in on on this is, it sounds now that you’ve got clarity, and it sounded like the classic entrepreneurial story, but you do a bit of this, and you do a bit of that some of it works, some of it doesn’t. And you can do lose yourself. Do you feel at the moment? You’re totally on the right track? Does it feel right? Does it feel natural for you?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [6:22]
Yeah, yeah. And Jane put it really, really well, the other day when, when we were talking about copy, and what we put on the front page, and she said, You know, it’s all about focus. And it is absolutely, if you focus on something every ticket activation in the limbic system, your ticket or Activation System kicks in, and that keeps you focused. And it’s all about focus and focus come from simplification. So that the more you hone in on what you want to do in the moment, you focusing on what you are going to do, then if you have a way of focusing at and you stick to it, then everything becomes simple, and everything becomes easy. And you can step back, you can look at it and you say, Okay, okay, but it’s not like it. It’s like a big jigsaw. Because, as you know, we also have a psychometric testing system, which we’ve never seen as a standalone thing, you know, it’s a personality quiz. But, but it’s, it’s, it’s one that we based on disk and everything else. And it’s just for the subconscious. And they said, What, okay, where does that fit in, in the equation, and then it came together like a big jigsaw. But you know, one of the problems is, most people, I’m sure you agree with this, most people are facing 1000 piece jigsaw, where what you should do is getting down to the full piece to euros just so and and so. Okay, that being said, that being said that big fish said that the fits there. And then when you wake up in the morning, you think, okay, today’s podcast day on didn’t podcast.
David Ralph [8:13]
I agree. I agree with you totally there john jumping in there. Because I know one of the things that kind of winds you up with me, or it did in the early days, maybe you’ve accepted it now is, is my focus on controlling my time not allowing the outside influences to come in. Because Did you find that in the early days, you were very much chasing everything that came through you it was like being in remember the crystal maze, where at the end, you’d go into the dome, and you’re trying to collect as many things as shiny things as sort of floats past you as possible. Do you did you find that in the early days that you were like most of us, you went for the the opportunity even if it was the wrong opportunity?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [8:53]
I have always had the Swedish Swedish up syndrome. You know, yeah. When, when my school, my my primary school, I come from a little coal mining village, and my primary school was literally across the street, and David about 200 jobs. But to get there, I had to go past my uncle run sweetie shop. And you remember this day, when when you were on your way to school, you went in a sweetie shop? It was full of lovely stuff. Yeah. What you wanted was one of everything.
David Ralph [9:30]
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. I’m saying
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [9:34]
I think business can get into the same sweetie shop syndrome, where you realize what you can do. And you can do that. Or we can do this now. Or we can do a certification course now, or we can get all this lovely stuff up online. Or we can do this. Or we can do that. And it ends up that you do very, very little because you’re trying to do too much. And one of the first things we do with our clients is we sit them down, we asked their subconscious mind, obviously being a hypnotist. Hi, I have a way of doing this, but we have their subconscious mind. You know, what do you want? Because once you get to know what your subconscious wants, then you understand what you’re going to end up doing. Because you will go what I use your conscious mind is wired to go.
David Ralph [10:26]
Yeah, now explain it for the listeners out there, because I’m actually studying all this at the moment because I’m finding it fascinating. But explain what the subconscious mind actually is Joe?
Unknown Speaker [10:36]
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [10:39]
In layman’s terms, we have to mental process, Marius will say that. It’s the unconscious. But let me say it this way. in London’s terms, we’ve got two mental processes, and one that looks like a mental process, but it’s actually physiological and day. just for ease of use, we can call them the conscious. That’s the bit of you that you think within a bit of you that sorts problems in these logical a very serious and grown up. Then we have the subconscious, we use the word term subconscious, that you could use unconscious or neuro scientists never using non conscious, but let’s keep it so conscious. And the subconscious is the bit of you debts, emotive playful, the bit of you that imaginative. And then we have the autonomic system, which actually doesn’t think it just does. So once you’ve taught a muscle to do something, that muscle actually has a memory system. And that muscle will do it again and again. And again. So you find yourself scratching an itch. And you’re not thinking about it. It’s a problem. But it hasn’t got to be sorted or anything because you’ve done it a million times times before and your your body knows how to do it. But he’s not thinking. But the subconscious mind is best described as your imagination and your conscious is best described as your intellect. And that was done by a guy called Emil QA who everybody knows his work, but now me knows his name. Do you remember the line from beautiful boy john lennon every day in every way? I’m getting better and better? Yes, yes. And that was a big thing in America, if you chant that 10 times in the morning, 10 times at night, it has an effect. And that was written by a guy called me or QA back in 1921, in a book called mastering your subconscious. So this is old stuff. Now, neurologically, as far as we know, your subconscious mind is based around the Paleo mammalian brain, I won’t get too technical, that some people call it the most monkey brain or the or the lizard brain. And it’s that internal voice, that internal bit of you, that makes you think that shit would be a really, really good idea. You know that when you buy it, it’s going to spend its entire life in the drawer, or in the back of the wardrobe. But you really want that shirt. So you buy the shirt. Yeah. On the other hand, it’s also the place that runs that. I really want a cigarette. I really want that extra drink of wine. I really want those chips. Yeah. And there’s an internal battle going on all the time in internal conflict. But me or Kuwait put this perfectly well. And you see this time and time and time again David and he said one thing that therapy so I’m not a therapist, I’m a I’m a mind meant to remind trainer. But but it’s one thing that therapists deal with all the time. That is, if Emil QA wrote, if there’s a conflict between the intellect and the imagination, imagination, always wins. That’s why people find the car to die it they find it hard to give up stuff, they find it hard to start new stuff, because the subconscious mind is a bright nine year old child who just doesn’t want to do that. Mm hmm.
David Ralph [14:26]
Because what I what they say is into a business and everything leading from the subconscious mind is everything that we’ve seen in life is built twice, once in the imagination. And then once in reality, it always goes that way. Is Is that something that people? Do? They need the belief system? First of all, do they need to believe that this is true? Because it’s quite difficult, isn’t it to program yourself when you’re so used to just reacting?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [14:54]
Why I don’t think it’s a useful and I are used to use this metaphor all the time. I don’t think it’s a useful metaphor or analogy to say, words white program. Yeah. Because you are biological and your mind your brain is biological and it is affected by society. And consciousness brain, the job of unconscious brain is to make us fit into society in some way, and find a place in society because we are not we are an animal first. And part of that being an animal is fitting in to the hive fitting into the tribe. And that’s why human beings are very, very tribal. Yeah. And it’s not, it’s not so much a matter of belief. It’s a matter of the hard wired underneath tendencies of your subconscious mind. So if you are wired to redefine to be part of a big tribe and and community, you are more likely to go with the tribe and the community, then the belief gets pasted on top of that they get that? I do Yes, yes. Right. It gets pasted on top of that. And that comes from the environment or all the time, you know, there is the odd occasion where later on in life somebody chooses, I don’t know to be Catholic. Yeah. Or somebody chooses to take on black culture when that wasn’t there. That their upbringing? Yeah. Dr. Ray? Because So would it be easier the vast majority of people gave it follow where they are born. And and and they follow that? That country?
David Ralph [16:48]
Yeah. So I imagine, imagine somebody is born on an island, where they’ve got no comparisons, they’ve got no tribal instinct, they, they just got themselves, they’ve got an internet connection. They could create magic, because their imagination is free to run wild. They’re not like they’re not restricted by what they’re seeing what they believe is true. And all the other stuff that goes on in our life.
Unknown Speaker [17:11]
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [17:13]
that’s a great film movie. Cast Away. You gotta watch that Tom Hanks my number one favorite actor. But
yeah, if if we haven’t got it will create it.
Yeah. And we say the conscious mind says, Oh, that’s a belief system. But it’s not it’s hard wired this way we work. The only thing that makes us different from all the other animals in creation, is we have an imagination. We can create something from nothing.
David Ralph [17:46]
So can animals as well, can they know they can make a nest? That wasn’t there beforehand?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [17:52]
Yeah, yeah. That that’s that’s an instinctual thing. Right? They can make a nest is when you look at it is perfectly a logical thing to do. Right? They need to have some way they can make patterns to create. To create a situation is that fish that two circles in a guest the female fish in the middle of the circle, and then nine inseminate the female? Yeah. And because we are humans, we can imagine that they’re doing that with imagination. Yeah, then we don’t it’s instinctual behavior. It’s hard wired in. Yeah. Now we have a conflict as human beings because the imagination is 50% hardwired. Yeah, at takes our tendencies, tendencies, what we call our talents are hardwired in. That’s why you’re so good at being sexy. And I’m so wonderful. Be a been funny sometimes. Yeah. And that those are our tendencies. So it doesn’t matter on our upbringing, we will follow those tendencies. Yeah, yep. And, and it doesn’t matter what we try and do and which we try and override that will still follow those tendencies and talents. And that’s why some people can go on to voice and get the chairs to turn. And other people shouldn’t be doing that on their own in in the shower. Yeah. Yeah, no matter how much you teach them, they will never become so perverted, because that’s hardwired in them. Just one moment. With the subconscious have been imagination we can imagine. Being on Mars, even though we’re not there. Yeah. That we don’t know if if an animal’s you know, dreaming about being on Mars, highly unlikely, because, although they communicate when you say, oh, I’ve got language and trees, language, and that’s because human beings are terribly alone in this world, you know? Because we, we just have the other 7.2 billion human beings, that’s all you know. And it’s so we say, all that dogs angry? No, it’s not. It’s just going through each norm pack behavior than it would have been if it was in pack of dogs or packing human beings or anything like that. But to because add drive is to be tribal. If we haven’t got a tribal created, you know, even if that’s a baseball, will we will put hair on it. And we’ll stick it on a stick and call it Wilson. Yeah, yeah,
David Ralph [20:45]
yeah. Yeah. So so in your, well, I’m gonna play some words now. And I’m going to delve back into this because my mind is going in many different ways. I could take this conversation wherever I want, but I’m gonna go this way. He’s Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey [20:55]
my father could have been a great comedian. But he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. So he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [21:22]
And what I love about you, john, and yes, I do know you sort of quite well not as well as I would like to know and then other times more than I would like to know when you was in that hotel in a difference in Jersey, and you watch that show band drama, was it as Jim says, You saw something and you knew you loved it, or was it just a fascination that took you back because where you are now is a million miles away from that young boy looking at that hypnotist and and seeing what was possible. So where was your mindset in those days?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [21:55]
Now it’s just a natural progression as you as you grow older and learn more and get into something. It actually started for me I had I had the normal normal speaker hard look story, background, you know, my dad, my dad was a coal miner and my mom was was in service until I was born and then she became a hairdresser and that sort of thing. And my family was default and functional had bullying brothers boozing dad excuse me, and and you know, spent a lot of time on my own but my mother had a had a love of theater, and she used to scares me then she is to organize coach trips, and she took us down to London to London played him beer in the third row. And and that year when I was 10, top of the bill on the road road performance was Shirley Bassey. Spike Milligan and Peter, Peter Sellers were on Peter Cook and Dudley Moore were on Kimmy Tobruk is doing his first year is compare. And I looked at that stage, and I thought I’d want to be there. And it was, it was 30 years afterwards that I got there. But I also spent a lot of the time and the reason I was in the hotel de France is I was stage managing the show. And we all got in the bar afterwards, you know? And yeah, it didn’t. It didn’t seem like a doctor at the time. It didn’t seem like bait basically, after Robin had done that. I went up to him. And I said, Can I do that? Can he says yeah, it’s easy. You just do this, do this, do that. And I thought, okay, I’m ago now. And five minutes later, I went up to her, and I said, Robin, you should get I said, but I’ve got the best woman on the floor. What the hell do I do now. And, and, and, and that was it, because I, we gravitate towards our hardwired talents, and then we stop ourselves doing it by fitting the norm. I know, I know a guy. I’ve been listening to his podcast over the last couple of years. I’m obsessed with him on his most loyal listener. And he tells the story of how for 20 years, he did the job, because that’s what was expected of him. But then he started to follow he started follow his heart. And he started to come into podcasting. And now he is just absolutely brilliant. And I’m trying to model him and emulate him as much as possible. And his name’s David Ralph
it’s, you know, it just happened. It just happened that I’ve always had an interest in in the mind and everything like that, you know, blah, blah, blah. But it was it was the need to be on stage. I can’t sing contents can’t tell jokes. And that leaves magic and hypnosis, and hypnotist, believe me, and a lot more than magicians. So
David Ralph [25:21]
was it a control thing for you? Did you like the thought of actually being able to do this? Because I think all of us we deep down would like to be able to hypnotize people and get them to do stupid things just because we can.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [25:36]
Right, I was born with a disability. And that meant there were occasions say, certainly when I went up to big scope, where I’m in a position where my disability got in the way of me getting what I wanted, because the other kids can run faster. The other kids kids movies here, the other kids work weren’t called names for the way they walk. And so I then found that I that I either lead that or last. Yeah. So as a child to get people to do the stuff I couldn’t do for me. I automatically fell into that. That if you like leadership nowadays, I’m not happy with that term. But that’s, that’s what it is. And I think I’ve always gravitated to that. I’m full of this crap. But but just the other week, we were looking through some old books, and I came across an old Bible. Now until I was eight and my grandmother died. I went to Sunday school every Sunday Methodist, I was brought up strict Methodist, because my grandma and granddad was strict Methodist, and that’s what you did. Yeah. went to church every Sunday went to Sunday school every Sunday, your leg could be dropping off, and you weren’t allowed to go to school. But you went to Sunday school. And I actually wrote in this Bible that I got for attendance at Sunday school. There, I wanted to be a vicar. Now looking back at my natural tendencies, the idea of being a Methodist minister, standing in a in a pulpit in front of a captured audience. So we’re all enthralled by everything I got to say. That’s what I am David so I’m a dad.
David Ralph [27:36]
Well, I say that totally. And as soon as you said that, I thought, Yeah, because you are somebody that is, you know, you do have a flock around you. And you like to be the center of, you know, if you go I’ve said this many times on the show, but I can go back to say nine years old. And remember saying I wanted to be a podcast host. Now podcasting didn’t exist. It was you know, it was just an idea. But that that ability connect with people, and I sex them somehow was always a part of me. But sometimes you need you need the experience to lead you to win. That all makes sense? Don’t you
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [28:13]
need the opportunity life, life’s a selection of opportunities, you get opportunities every day. And you either you either miss them, we take? Yeah. And I’m sure you have this bug, we’ve all missed opportunities where we talk, good god, I had a guy in Jersey, say to me, we got some money, you’re to invest in this business with me? And I said no. And he turned out to be the biggest HIV Testing Center in California.
And I missed that one. Yeah, you know?
Yes. But it’s, it’s, it’s the taking the opportunities. And at the time, you know, when we look back at me during the guards, we never saw them as opportunities to on where they were going to go. We saw them as I would love to do that. I’d love to try that and see what happens. You know,
David Ralph [29:10]
but can we use our subconscious mind john to sort of be more aware of these opportunities? You know, instead of them passing by think they’ll go, we should have done that? Can we sort of heighten our awareness by I’m going to use that word programming, because I don’t know a better word for it, but by actually sort of developing our subconscious to be more attuned to what we want.
Unknown Speaker [29:32]
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [29:35]
I know, I know. I know. That’s, that’s that that’s the, that is the mantra of the personal development religion, which is you can have everything that you want, you can tell your subconscious mind what to do, and it’s going to do it for the rest of your life. And that’s entirely not how it works. Yeah. If you imagine the inside your head, you’ve got the big question, driving the car. And behind it, you’ve got the kids sticking these is someone whose nose and sticking his tongue out at people going past and it’s sort of like that situation is driving the cars, Peter. And behind him is Paul, and Paul’s going Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Is that a rabbit? Can I have a rabbit? Can we have a cat? I want an ice cream? I need to pee. I think I’m going to be sick. Oh, we there yet? Yeah. And that whole conversations going on inside you all the time. And if you say to your subconscious mind, right? We really, I really, we have to do this, then your subconscious mind is going to do what every bright nine year old child does, it’s going to make a simple decision. Do I want to or not? And if he doesn’t, you have conflict. Now, if you’ve got a situation where somebody is in a job, and they’re uncomfortable in their own hands, P and you know, people use a comfort zone wrong. They say, oh, have you been doing the same thing for 30 years? Yes. You’re in your comfort zone? Yes, but I don’t like it. They’re in their uncomfortable, uncomfortable, not their comfort zone. Yeah. And I’ve heard you say things about comfort zones as well. The very similar to the bio, I think that you need to be comfortable with what you’re doing. You need to you need to feel that you fit in what you’re doing. So instead of trying to make your subconscious mind be what it isn’t, why don’t we turn around and say, Boy, Okay, number one, let’s find out how the subconscious mind Oh boy, did we do that with our modern style, psychometrics, but the so many tests at their desk, and you can do it all sorts of ways. Now, find out how you are wired, and then say, right, okay, what do you want? And he said childhood dream into is that is that childhood dream that one day one on one to lead with? Not to preach to religion, although personal development is a religion. Instead of congregation instead of community, you know, I always a good congregation, but don’t tell anybody that because you put people but but you know, when when when you look at it, it’s exactly the same, the same process. And what you should say to your subconscious mind is, what do you want? Now let’s think of a sensible, logical way that we can make that happened. Yeah. So not rather than I’ve been in conflict, rather than saying, right, this is what I want, you have got to do this with me, I’m going to program you to do it. Because if you’ve got conflict David unknown, on number, the show is based on Steve Jobs and Steve Jobs miraculous person, very logically centered very. But he understood what you’ve got to do with logic, is feed the subconscious. And everybody holds him up as an icon of success and everything else. The poor guy died in his early 50s of cancer. Yeah. Because there was always that internal conflict between what he wanted to be who he wanted to be, and what he actually became. Yeah. And that cuts people’s life short. And we see that as success in as much as you’re doing consciously what you want to do, where you should be in harmony with your subconscious, not trying to force it to do things not trying to control it to do things but saying, right? What What would you do when one of your kids David now Now you’ve got bet 50 million of them
David Ralph [33:54]
very fertile? I am?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [33:56]
What you do in your spare time, right? Yes, I do. But
But what do you do when your kid says, I want to do this? Yeah.
David Ralph [34:08]
I generally will always say to them, do you want to do it? And you know, that’s it sound feel good to you? And is it going to inspire you, I totally focus in on emotions with my kids, because I know that if I really put their heart into it, because they want to do it, then they’re going to be better in the long run.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [34:28]
Yeah. And then we lose that as we grow older, because the conscious mind becomes more mature. We fit into the society and into the into the community feel like we fit into the mold that we’ve grown into. And that starts to override when our subconscious mind once in our subconscious mind is screaming, are we there yet? And what you’ve got to do is tune into the subconscious and not saying this is what we’re going to do. You should tune in and say, Are we there yet? We’re waiting, you want to go?
David Ralph [35:01]
Why? I’m going to ask you a question. Because, you know, with the Steve Jobs scenario, right, okay, Steve Jobs died as a young man. Now he’s business partner at the time, Steve Wozniak, who created Apple, he realized early days that he didn’t want to run a business. He just loved doing the engineering. He loved building the computers. So he left Apple, and he became a teacher teaching young kids how to actually build computers. Yes, he had the wealth, but he focused in what he wanted to do. Now he looks as healthy as you know, as a healthy person. How can you say that he looks very happy. He looks like he’s going to be bounding around the stage just because he’s doing what he wants to do. Now in the world nowadays, most people have got almonds, most people are taking pills. Most people are taking happy pills. Is it a simplistic enough again, to say that if you was just doing what you wanted every day when you wanted to do it? All that kind of stuff wouldn’t occur? Is that the conference you have natural? No,
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [36:01]
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But it’s about the resilience of your system between your your mind your brain and your body. Yeah. Who should be dead? You know, I had
David Ralph [36:17]
a minutes jobs waking up.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [36:20]
In 1995, I was involved in fatal car car accident, as you probably guessed, the fatality was not mine. Yeah. But I literally walked away from that with a few broken bones and rips and stuff. I fell off stage. I actually did fall off stage in 1993 was Colby Colby conservative quote. And my my earthy humor didn’t always go down well, in conservative quotes, at I was thinking a lot about the show come to the end of the show, slept on a very, very sleepy part of the stage and had a ridiculous fracture in the femur, which also could femoral artery, and I was 20 minutes away from the hospital, I should have bled to death, but I didn’t because of the quick action of my road manager who was an ex fireman and knew what to do. And he got a tour Nikki on straightaway, you know. And then at the age of 48, my heart stopped, they bang, the DV bomb, got it going again, stopped again on the way to the hospital, they started it again. And I had open heart surgery and after the open heart surgery, I had a I had a secondary infection. The MRI the almost killed me I was I was in hospital for another month with a big pump on my chest. And you don’t want to know what was going into the bottle side of my bed, you know? And, and I did it all about all sorts of things. And you know, being in a wheelchair and being in business. I mean, obviously I’m going to the best you Expo in a couple of weeks and there’ll be lots of people they’re all therapists and Matt and I will be coming up saying, Oh, you should be walking on in Cuba, you know, and all that stuff. But the reason I’m still here, and the reason I’m still in the wheelchair, the reason that people are telling me a good example is Stephen Hawking should have died when he was 40 Lyft into his 80s
David Ralph [38:30]
Yeah, he wasn’t in his 80s was he
Unknown Speaker [38:32]
way 70s I don’t
David Ralph [38:34]
know if he was that old when he when the sort of 60s
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [38:37]
know he was anger let’s Google bought okay bought he should not have got past the idea for to what he got wrong with it. Yeah, yeah. But if the mindset active if the mines there, if the mines going in the right direction, the 76
David Ralph [38:57]
you you were closer I bowed down to you. He was 17
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [39:00]
six. If you’ve got harmony between your mind and your body, regardless of the state your body’s in. Yeah.
You are more resilient.
David Ralph [39:11]
But that’s my point. Now I said then if we eliminate the completely eliminate the, you know, we’ve all done jobs where we come back at the end of the day, we’re absolutely exhausted because it’s just so boring. And it just felt like screw this get by just get through it. And then there’s other times when we just love it. And hours just pass and you feel like you can take on the world. That’s my point. Surely benzer it’s now come full circle. And you’re going to say David You’re right.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [39:40]
I apologize. I’m Miss heard what you said. Yeah, you’re right.
David Ralph [39:48]
Listeners I’ve known for about a year and a half. Now that’s the first time he’s ever said.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [39:55]
Not true. That’s not true. That’s not true. I agree with everything you said in your book.
David Ralph [40:01]
Astro eight. Okay, let’s do the book next to the book. JOHN actually published my book.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [40:06]
No, no, no, no. James company called. I just, I just do is i’m told him that company, it’s not mine.
David Ralph [40:16]
So so we were there, let’s sort of just into where we are now when so are we saying to the listeners because I love this. But if you focus in on the playful inside you the imagination, don’t just go through the money, you’ve got more chance of getting the money you’ll find your natural talents you’re moving towards you will be and you’ll be almost kind of directed because I know certainly two years ago, to now totally different baby Ralph totally different is totally stress free is totally relaxed. And I just almost go does this feel right? And if it feels right, I do it. And if it doesn’t, I don’t do it. And more often than not, I’m right. Uh, you know, it’s the way to go.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [40:59]
Man the best decisions you’ve ever made to do that because I promise you that the game won’t come back you know, and that’s that’s entirely stressing to stay in my opinion. I’m not I’m not a doctor. I did did five years as an orthopedic this but that’s another story. I’m just I was always attracted to disabled people, I think. But but it’s, it’s Yeah, it’s very much a case of going along with your mind rather than trying to be in a battle with it growing rather than trying to say, Okay, this it let me just say something here. And numerology is a physical thing. Yeah. No to numerology are exactly the same. And some numerology, some fortunately, don’t work as well as they could or should. Yeah. That’s why a lot of the mental conditions like anxiety and stuff like that, we can do a lot of bear with most of them. But if you if you read, if you read Ruby, waxes books, you’ll see that there’s a lot also depression and stuff like that, that is purely down to the physiology of the brain. Yeah. And not all brains are brilliant. Not all brains are perfect. You know? And, yes, we’ve got better at diagnosing thing got things or naming things if you’d like, because, like, you know, I mean, you know, and I know, when we were at school, we didn’t have kids who were borderline Aspergers David just thick. You know? Because Because we built up a society that’s for clever people. Yeah. And if you’re not quite there, you know, you’re going to struggle in our society, unless you follow your heart. Follow your dreams. And and now I know it’s it sounds old. It sounds so cliche, doesn’t it? Follow your dreams, you’ll get what you want. Well, that depends on your dream, of course, you know, because not everything comes with it with an exchange, but most things do. And yeah, my, my dream has always been to be in front of the audience. And I found something my showbiz mentor who lives in Florida and throws knives with people. He said to me, he said, you know, get famous, if you want to be rich, you know, then that isn’t the only way of doing it. But that is definitely a way of doing it. Yeah. And, and that’s the way that my subconscious mind likes. I like to it I like the numb. I like being able to talk Jonathan chase into Google.
And finding out there I’m a gay actor.
David Ralph [44:06]
I never had any doubts. I wouldn’t have even bothered googling it
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [44:12]
yet. Well, Jonathan’s a very nice guy. And I usually come up in third position, which I’m happy with. I’m happy. You know
David Ralph [44:20]
what if you google David Ralph the number one guy is a man with penis problems, he hasn’t got penis problems. But if you have Asia man David Ralph doctor of penile dysfunction in urology in London,
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [44:35]
you’ll never go there.
David Ralph [44:37]
Either. I’ve written the book, I’ve written the book
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [44:40]
will publish it, you publish
David Ralph [44:42]
it, and nobody will publish it. Yeah. So let’s play some words now that we play on every show. And we’ve always alluded to him. And we’ve already done it on the show Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs [44:52]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [45:27]
Everything he says they’re really john is about emotion. You gotta trust you gotta feel you’ve got to it’s all that kind of that gut intuition is second brain is your gut. That’s that’s where people go wrong, isn’t it people shut out that intuition that feeling and I just go for the end goal of the money basically,
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [45:49]
we’ve created a society and the way society works, the White House it has to work. At the moment, is is very counterintuitive. And and yet, we are putting ourselves in conflict situations all the time by saying, I’m not going to do that, you know, I I have found the best way of getting over the sweetie syndrome is to give my subconscious mind a gob stop there every now and again. Yeah. So four years ago, I said to Jane, I said, Do you know something? In the United Kingdom, boring Ghana, but in the United Kingdom, and only in the United Kingdom, to my knowledge, if you do a public demonstration of hypnosis, allied to a show. And unless each part of the play, you have to have a license from the local authority, so you have to go to the local council, wherever it is, you’re putting the show on and say can I do the hypnosis show? 80% of them also, we don’t care. Do what you want. And a lot of them will say yes, but you’ve got to do this. And most people don’t know that. This is this is really a strange situation, because you have to be licensed to do this show, where you’ve got an audience of, I don’t know, a couple of thousand people. And everybody’s watching you. And every word you say is over a microphone and you’re fully in public. Yet, if you’re doing one on one therapy with somebody who’s really vulnerable, you don’t need to even register. You don’t even need to be qualified. Yeah. Which is strange. But I went down to the therapy room and did all the learning and that just to get licenses easy, because I’m an entertainer who does hypnosis rather than being a hypnotherapist. It was entertainment. And on losing battle was going there. Let me everything. And it.
Unknown Speaker [48:07]
David Ralph [48:10]
Now going up.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [48:11]
It really, really is case of we built up a society where we got all the rules and regulations and everything like that. Oh, yes, I remember now. And I said to Jane, I said Dina was never been done. She said what I said a play where you get people out of the audience and hypnotize them to be part of the cast. And she said, why not a sec, cuz nobody’s ever done it. I want to delete. And I want to do it dressed in steampunk gear because I like the steampunk, which is obvious. And the the marvelous mechanical mesmeric was born. And I wrote the lie. I’ve got a couple of active friends who got disabilities and persuaded them, it would be a great idea to do this play. And, you know, Jen did all the costumes and we got it all together. And we took the blessing thing, we we crowdfunded it, and we took it.
to Edinburgh Fringe, and we we did it at Edinburgh Fringe. Yeah.
And I will probably never do that again. Because the GOP stop is finished. Do you understand that? Yeah, I went to I did the thing I wanted to do is sort of like, it’s sort of like, last year, you took the kids for dinner yesterday. Yeah, you know, and it’s getting that Disneyland thing. And it’s, it’s sort of like, I want to go to Universal Studios. And next year, I want to go to, to see my mentor who lives not too far away in Kiss me. And I want to go to Universal Studio, I want to come and do the Hogwarts thing. And and go damn diversionary. Because I’m a huge Harry Potter fan. And because that attracts my subconscious. And my subconscious mind wants to do that. So will delete. Yeah. But people think that they can’t follow their subconscious mind, in their business in their work in their in their vocation. But you can, and you will find that master the successful. I’ve been listening to your podcast for a couple of years now. And like I said, I’m probably one of your most loyal listeners. And what I note from the very successful people that you talk to, is they do have one thing in common. And it is it is that thing that they did follow their dream. They did say, Well, yeah, I might as well do something that I love. And I might as well do something and follow my gut and follow my instincts. And it’s one thing that we teach our clients all the time is, where do your instincts want to go? What? What do you want to be able to do? We live in a fantastic time David We live in a time where you can actually do that?
David Ralph [51:14]
Well, this is what I say to everyone. JOHN, I wonder why so many people are focused in making other people rich, when you can just turn your attention on to something, we’ve got all the opportunity to connect with clients across the world, and and build anything you want. And it is totally a green light for me.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [51:31]
Yeah, but you know, everybody’s wired that way.
David Ralph [51:35]
No, but the ones that are being been, there’s even more rewards, isn’t there?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [51:38]
Absolutely, absolutely bought, as with any whole situation, as with any social situation, and, you know, and I mean, I know people who had the same job for 40 years, and be totally happy. And if you said to us successful later, well, you know, what, got the grandkids there, I’ve paid my mortgage, I’ve got I’ve got my house, I’ve got my retirement, I like to do my fishing my grandkids to their lovely, and I’ve got my family, my great grandkids coming along, and me and successful me. You know, and what we’ve got to be careful of is saying to people who are wired for it, you should be doing this. And we should be looking for the people who are naturally inclined to do stuff. Yeah. Rather than trying to make people feel inadequate, because that’s that’s the flip side. Isn’t it? motivational speaking and personal development thing? And that is some people I say to people, aren’t you fulfilled? Do you feel like your life filled? Do you feel satisfied? They feel inspired, fulfilled, inspired, satisfied. Are you happy? And if they are when people get into Shambo really yet I am. Stop, just carry on doing it?
David Ralph [53:08]
Yeah. I mean, I think that’s where we will stop that part of the conversation. To be honest, I think that’s perfect. And that, that leads us finally to the bit that I’ve been looking forward to to send you back in time, I haven’t. To the younger version, this has been the record a sermon on the mic, when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young john, what advice would you give him? What age john, would you like to speak to where we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the music? When it beats you up? This is the Sermon on the mic
Unknown Speaker [53:47]
with the best of the show.
Unknown Speaker [54:04]
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [54:07]
JOHN, you’re 10. And you just come out of the London Palladium. And you’re looking ranting and looking him as cream of people that are going by a more what’s going to happen is you’re going to say one day, I’m going to be doing that. And you’re going to be saying one day, I’m going to be doing that for the next 20 years. Don’t wait. Don’t wait, you know, these little shows that you’re putting on for your mates in the in the garden shed with the with the bike light coming down on you. 1010 into what you do, don’t wait. Don’t wait, don’t go to college, don’t go nursing, don’t get married, don’t, don’t do those things. Just get on that stage has as fast as you can. Because everything that’s going to happen, good, great and good in your life is going to come from that. And that one decision to say, Can I do that? And then to try and find out that you can and you know that that would just bring the good stuff sooner. So actually, that shake.
David Ralph [55:22]
I think that is the most distinct way to finish the show. And to be honest, when I did the Sermon on the microphone is going to go on for 45 minutes, but you didn’t you didn’t john That was perfect. That was perfect. So john, for everybody who’s been listening to us today, what’s the best way to connect with you
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [55:40]
go Jonathan chase at Jonathan and chase usually will get me on LinkedIn which is where I spend most of my time because you know our clients mostly business people add Jonathan chase Jonathan Chester calm everything else you’ll find it you’ll find off there you know nine books and and all that sort of thing. It’s It’s It’s all every big and Google Jonathan Chase, I am not the really really really good looking gay actor on to one Damn.
David Ralph [56:20]
He’s gonna get such a boost trying to get the podcast
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [56:22]
Yes, I’ve got it. I’ve got it cannot cannot put the podcast. Right David I’m going to ask you to come and be a guest on my podcast, which is called when no one else is talking.
David Ralph [56:35]
I will be there sir. I will be there. And yeah, it’s something that we’ve worked on hand in hand over the last year, isn’t it?
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [56:41]
Yes. And I did my first interview with with an Emmy Award winning game show host from America is a very good friend of mine. My first interview with him last week, and I knew that your teaching had worked. Do you know how I know that?
David Ralph [56:59]
You tell me
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [57:00]
at the end of the introduction. He went Wow, what an introduction.
David Ralph [57:05]
Brilliant give him the big build up and you know that’s what they deserve it making the time and effort and he sets the story. Thank you so much for spending time with us today. Join those dots Please come back again when you got more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures john Chase, thank you so much.
Jonathan Chase Hypnotist [57:25]
Thank you. Thank you.
David Ralph [57:29]
JOHN, that chase Yes, Britain’s leading hypnotist is holding your mind. It’s all in your mind. And if you can become more playful, and have more imagination, and just go to sleep at night thinking about how you want your life to be you have amazing dreams and you wake up the next morning feeling like it’s coming true and when the emotions become stronger. I’m a great believer in this I started off many years ago being quite closed off on certain things thinking to myself, I said a lot about rubbish this I’ll tell you what is not an the more playful and the more focus the more enjoyment you get your life just leads into bigger and bolder things. It really does take you on a path of discovery, which john has gone on and in my own little way I’ve gone on myself. Until next time, thank you so much for being here listening to the more female based episodes of join up dots We will be back on Monday. Until then we’ll see you again Look after yourselves. Cheers. See ya. And Bye bye
Unknown Speaker [58:29]
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