Welcome to the Join Up Dots Podcast with Dr Linda F Williams
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Introducing Dr Linda F Williams
Todays guest is a lady who has had many careers in her life, so it will be of great interest to discover if she feels what she is doing now is THE thing.
We first spoke to her back on episode 287 of Join Up Dots and it was certainly a powerful episode.
Born in East Chicago Heights, Illinois she was reared in rural Hart Michigan.
After beginning college at Eastern Michigan University, she returned to her roots in Chicago where she began a federal career with the department of Housing and Urban Development.
And then it seems strange to see it from an outsiders point of view, but it was during this time that she became a protégé of Grammy Winning Songwriter and Arranger, Eugen Record and had three releases under the name the Chilites.
But her life has been one of contrast as away from the glamour of musical output, she has for 35 years worked in civilian government service, seven years as a labor leader, and as a national negotiator.
She is a lady that knows how to get her point across and can make a difference for so many.
How The Dots Joined For Linda
The last time we spoke to her, she had just started releasing her best selling book “Whose Apple Is It Anyway” and her starting her Empowerment Center.
In the book she tells in her own unique voice, a story of emotional and physical abuse, rape, divorce and a 17-year marriage to a man who was later convicted as a sexual predator.
So she certainly has a history that will resonate with so many people who have endured similar tales of distress and woe.
But its with a force of character that ties it all together and gives the whole platform a central focus, that our guest has got to show her true strength.
The programme is stronger because of who she is and now what she is.
So why did she for so many years appear to be driven and in control of her business life, but pushed around in her personal life?
And would she go back and change anything, or is this just a part of what has made her who she is today?
Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start Joining Up Dots with the one and only Linda F Williams
During todays show we discussed such weighty subjects with Dr Linda F Williams such as:
Linda shared how she got to such a low point because of how people reacted to her voice and the way she spoke.
We have to understand if we are doing something right and big in our lives we will definitely attract arrows into our lives.
Linda shares how she has changed her focus twice over the last few years, and has now found her path was there all along.
Why the truly motivational and courageous that we see are no better or stronger than you are. They just have chosen to show it to the world.
How To Connect With Dr Linda F Williams
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Audio Transcription Of Linda F Williams Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:25]
Yes, hello, a good morning. Well, good morning to everybody out there listening to Join Up Dots. Now one of the cool things that the huge pleasures of Join Up Dots is I get to connect with so many remarkable people. And certainly some of them connect a little bit more than others. And today’s guest is one of those people who has come back a second time. And I don’t speak to her very often, but I consider her as a really good friend and a virtual friend. And hopefully she feels the same way. Now she isn’t late to us had many careers in our life, so it will be of great interest to discuss. I believe she feels what she’s doing now is the thing. Now we first spoke to her back on episode 287 of Join Up Dots like I say, and it was certainly a powerful episode. If you haven’t listened to that go back. We have had a tonne of feedback on that one. Born in Chicago heights, Illinois. She was raised in rural Michigan and after beginning college at Eastern Michigan University. She returned to her roots in Chicago where she began a federal career with a Department of Housing and Urban Development. And then it seems strange to see it from an outsider’s point of view. But it was during this time that she became a prodigy of Grammy winning songwriter and arranger Eugen record and had three releases under the name but shy lights. But a life has been one of contrast is away from the glamour of musical output. She has for 35 years plus worked in civilian government service, seven years as Labour leader and as a national negotiator. She’s a lady that knows how to get her point across and can make a difference for so many. Now the last time we spoke to her, she just started releasing her best selling book, whose Apple is it anyway, and starting her empowerment centre. And in the book, she tells in her own unique voice, a storey of emotional and physical abuse, rape, divorce, and a 17 year marriage to a man who was later convicted as a sexual predator. So she certainly has a history that will resonate with so many people who have endured similar tales of distress and Whoa. But it’s with a force of character that ties it all together and gives the whole platform a central focus. But our guest has got to show her truth, them strength, the programme is stronger because of who she is. And now what she is. So why did she for so many years appear to be driven and in control of her business life but pushed around in her personal life? And when she go back and change anything? Or is this just part of what has made her who she is today? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start joining up even more dots with the one and only Linda F. Williams.
Linda F Williams [2:59]
I just find David, I’m back here with you. It’s so good to hear your voice.
David Ralph [3:06]
We are we were parties. Linda, wait, we bought these we did we have never met. But there was a real tight connection when we last had you on the show?
Linda F Williams [3:16]
Absolutely. And I’ve watched you and commit an active with you on Facebook and and some connections are just you just eternal. And if we don’t talk for a year, the minute we exchange communication is as if no time passed at all.
David Ralph [3:36]
That is the true mark of a deep friendship, isn’t it?
Linda F Williams [3:40]
Yes, it is. Yes, it is my friend.
David Ralph [3:42]
Now I like your deep voice because it’s quite sexy. Linda, you’ve got that voice? I have you always had that voice is that one?
Linda F Williams [3:52]
Yeah, you know, people haven’t seen me for decades, you know, you grow, you get glamorous, you get older. And if they don’t know, notice my face, my voice stops people in a crowd. But I love to linger here for a minute because I’ve struggled with being authentic and speaking publicly about this very factor. Because since you and I spoke, I went on a national radio tour. And on my very first appearance, there were two gentlemen that were interviewing me. And they on the air live accuse me of being a transvestite. They would not believe that I am a woman have always been a woman, and never had any desire to be anything other than a woman. And this happened two years ago. And I’m getting a little emotional here because I really want to use myself in this vulnerability as a ground to help somebody else embrace who they are David, because it had me questioning myself. I’ve always been a woman. I’ve given birth to two children. I’ve been married twice. But that day, something got planted in me that really had me real. And well, I got over it. I handled the interview very professionally. And then just recently, a phone call comes out of the blue, the answer the phone, it was my business phone, and it’s a woman on the other end who saying you called me. I said, Well, this is Linda Williams, then got silent. And she said Linda, and I said yes, I know your name is Linda, cuz I could see it on the caller ID. But I said, I’m also Linda, how can I help you. And she said, I never heard of a man named Linda and she hung up on me. So now I’m really in a good, I’ll pop my dog on voice and question in myself. And if this show is about people being authentic about things I have held back speaking about this publicly, and I want to use your platform, to speak about it, because is some of the things that we don’t want to embrace about ourselves that are our greatest power. And you have to have two foot trusted others in your life, who can really pull you back from the brink. And my daughter and my sister told me that not everybody hears my voice as if they’re listening to a man. And they ensured me that the power of my platform is in the authenticity and the power of my speaking voice. But I just want your audience to know that there are going to be many opportunities to crawl in a corner. Because you don’t like the way you look or you don’t like the way you speak, or somebody else has something negative to say about you. And if you want to be out there to help people, they’re going to be trolls out. And they’re going to hit you right where it hurts. And I just want to tell everybody that I’m struggling with embracing that about myself in something that’s been there all my life. But Why all of a sudden, now that my platforms getting big, and I’m reaching more and more people and my still struggling with this. Yeah. But
David Ralph [7:21]
Linda that can that can happen. And now, as I say to so many people is a badge of honour. If you are operating in a way where you’re not getting negativity thrown at you, then you’re not operating big enough. And that is how life is. And unfortunately, people are going to be out there to try to rein you in. Because they’re seeing what you’re doing and how you’re pushing yourself out there. And so I would say to people, it’s my voice, you know, it’s my voice. It’s my words. And it’s, it’s how I am. And the weird thing about people’s voices are is you’re the only one that hears your voice. A lot of people say, Oh, I don’t want to start a podcast. I don’t want to do this. I don’t want to do that. I don’t like how I sound. And I always say to them, you’re the only one on the planet that thinks you sound like everybody else. Because you sound like you are so right. So right, right is Linda, who cares? I say to
Linda F Williams [8:17]
the world. Yeah, I think that’s wise advice to people. That’s one thing that does them between people just putting out videos, or putting out podcasts, we have to understand that it You’re so correct, because we have to understand that even that if we are doing something right, and if our focus remains helping as many people as we can, okay, then there’s evil forces out there just in the universe, and don’t want us to do that. Then you have individuals who are jealous. One thing that I have tried to do in the middle of this struggle is maintain a focus on people that I’m called to reach my daughter, she got an opportunity to see me speak publicly about a year ago. And she said, mama, there’s, there’s compassion. She said, and there’s power in your voice. She said, People feel the love and the compassion. And she said, there’s just power to the power in your voice when you speak. There’s power in your voice when you pray. And basically she said, the people that you’re called to help the people that you are divine connection to help are not going to hear a man when you’re talking to them.
David Ralph [9:39]
Right. So what I wasn’t expecting to really focus in on this, but this is a key point to sort of life generally. Why? When you’ve got me saying, You sound very sexy, Linda, and you’ve got your daughter saying that you have got a voice that has a knowledge, it has presence. He has gravitas. You know, you’re not sounding like Cyndi Lauper. Certainly, but you but you got a voice that conveys of wisdom? Why are you still struggling with what these two herbs on this radio show said, I don’t get it. You’re too big for this, Linda, move it, move it on.
Linda F Williams [10:18]
Yeah, it’s the human condition, my friend.
David Ralph [10:20]
Now he’s gone if you’re lingering on where you should just go?
Linda F Williams [10:26]
Correct. But it ties to the human condition that people will focus on that minute, what some, but when people judge themselves by how others judge them is generally tied into some outcome. I hate to use the word weakness. But these the weaknesses, these mindsets are part of the human condition in that if I were to go back, I can probably tie it to some point back in the decades ago, where somebody did something to me that I might have forgotten, but yada, yada, yada. So that’s what I mean is the human condition that we all have something might be my voice near it might be something else with somebody else. And like you said, we tend to major on the negative instead of listening to the positive voices. And what they are saying and that’s what and that’s what I’m saying. It’s important to have a group of truthful, trusted others that you can see, I can make the choice right now and say, Okay, I got a group of truth, who trusted others. And they’re all saying something different. Because I trusted them. I’m going to just believe them and keep it freakin moving. But see, this is the point of the whole of the diversity here. I am a life coach and executive coach wrestling with this thing that I helped other people get over. And sometimes the power of overcoming that it being honest about it publicly, and being authentic, and vulnerable enough day, look, I got this issue that I’m dealing with here. And sometimes not holding it back and not keeping it a secret is the key to be able to like you said, Keep it moving. Listen to the positive voices. It you don’t two knuckleheads out of 1000 should be ruling your life. Does that make any sense?
David Ralph [12:18]
It makes total sense. It does. But also, I think it’s a bit of a crock as well, Linda, I think you know, I think you you’ve dragged it around for too long. You know, your time to disagree. You know, this is it and just who you are, you know, I get slagged off terribly through Join Up Dots. Now, I do a show and I do a podcast, a programme and everything, but I do I try my best to help people. And I try my best to provide the best value. And I try to do it in a fun and entertaining way. Or a deep and emotional way. So people never know what they’re gonna get what? And so I think to myself, how can anybody turn the table was on me and say anything bad? is not possible. But of course it is. And it comes back over time. Now, I actually now love these comments that get thrown at me, because it gives me a real chance to actually go back and face them head on. And I do and everyone that I get back, I email them, I send a personal message. I actually say to them, you know, if you’re in in the area, I will meet you face to face and I will speak to you face to face. Because what you’re saying is a reflection of yourself. And not me. You know, that’s truth. And that’s true with you. These guys are actually in the radio show. They’re highlighting themselves and not you. And so you should basically think to yourself, what I was, I was a mirror shining that light back at them. It never actually got to me. Their words never actually touched me. They were actually talking to themselves.
Linda F Williams [14:01]
Yeah, I would you say it and I found out a few months later that they were two guys one was more positive and got off of it. And the other one kept harping on it. That’s that guy got fired off that radio show. Hey, you got
David Ralph [14:15]
there you go. So they were they were insecure in themselves. And they’ve been found wanting now What girl? Well, you you you’ve worked on, and you’ve ended up on Join Up Dots. That’s a good place to be in milk.
Linda F Williams [14:28]
There you go. There you go. I’m really making it now boy.
David Ralph [14:32]
So to say to me, Linda, my name is Linda F. Williams. I love my voice. I love who I am. It doesn’t get any better than this.
Linda F Williams [14:42]
My name is Dr. Linda F. Williams. I love my voice. I love who I am. And it doesn’t get any better than this.
David Ralph [14:49]
I didn’t say that. Dr. Bit. Are you happy? Yeah. Well, I did
Linda F Williams [14:53]
really lot of hard work. I finally did get my doctorate.
David Ralph [14:57]
Well, good on you. Right. Okay. Get over by let’s make this sort of shoes, the positive. So when he was on the show last time, I actually remember being hugely inspired by the person that you was, but I wasn’t as inspired by the person who you were trying to be at that time, it felt to me like you had one third in the camp. And you weren’t really, as we’re talking now, I suppose buying into your your actual inner power, you were kind of playing the role more than actually living the role? Would that be a fair appraisal?
Linda F Williams [15:36]
I think to the extent that I had just been gone, the business, just finished the book and still had a more growing to do that would be true.
David Ralph [15:49]
And so how have you moved from that point to where you are now is is the business where you want it to be? Or is it still in the transition because businesses kind of I think operate at the same level as the how in a competence. And I think the more we believe in ourselves and get confident the more our businesses sort of operate as well. It’s a kind of balancing effect.
Linda F Williams [16:14]
Yeah, it’s an extension of who we are. I have the business is not where I wanted to be yet. But in the interim, since we spoke, I’ve changed mark my focus a couple of times. And as you may know, every time that focus changed, then I had to rebuild on my platform. So I might have, say, for instance, I was putting myself out there as a life coach only. And so I was dealing with relationships and personal problems. And those were the followers I had. And then when I flipped the script and changed to executives, then I had to rebuild. So you rebuild from the from the beginning, I’ve had to, to sit down where I’ve changed focus, since you and I spoke, but my current focus I’ve maintained for over a year now. And I’m just getting comfortable with that matter. So in other words, I’m a jack of all trades. I can when you’re dealing with human behaviour and human can the human condition, it applies to all venues. And I had to overcome a mindset where my marketing was concerned where I felt like if I focus on one area, with my marketing, that I was denying myself everything else that I was. So that was the major mindset that I had to overcome. But with respect to where my business is, now, I really would like to be reaching a lot more people. So I’m struggling with trying to figure out how I’m going to do do that effectively without running myself into the ground. You know, as a life coach, what you do is you’re doing a lot of one on ones, and you can just do so many those in a day. And I really want to extend my focus. So that’s where my business is now.
David Ralph [18:08]
Well what what you’ve got to do Linda in that event, because you have got a storey you got a tower to tell, you’ve got to find influences, you need to actually bring exactly what you did earlier because you last time he was on the show. 287 and I do ask people to go back, you told some really harrowing storeys really honest, storeys, that resonated deeply with my audience. And especially with the ladies, I had so many messages saying What a powerful woman, I was almost in tears listening to it, how she expressed this. Now with yourself and your message, your message has to be amplified. And I think the only way that’s going to happen is by accepting that you need to share that message with influencers, you need to share it so your message can be amplified. Because, okay, we all try to do it on our own. And we all try to sit in our rooms and think that we can do this and we can do that. But effectively, there’s people ahead of us, I’ve already done it. And if you find the right one, you know, for example, if you went on Oprah, just for example, okay, your issues would be over. Because suddenly you would have a platform, a global platform, that people would turn their attention to you. So what you need to do is take your talents and find the platform that fits right for you and your storey and usual power to to help that influencer, share their gifts to the world. Do you see what I’m saying?
Linda F Williams [19:43]
Okay, I hear you. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Ralph [19:48]
And so when in your area, you know, what do you do most of all, we will look at people in our area. But what you need to do, you need to look at somebody who is at a higher level than you you in the same area, and focus in on connecting and bridging gaps with them. You don’t want to be vanilla, you don’t want to be generic, you need to be exactly who you are, and start building a connection with that influencer. And if you do it the right way. You know, they will respond. They will respond. Oh, yeah. But it’s about getting out of your out of your head and out of your apartment and your laptop and saying, I don’t need to do this myself. There’s people out there that have already done it. I just need to tap into their their streams.
Unknown Speaker [20:35]
Yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
David Ralph [20:39]
Do not tell me, Linda.
Linda F Williams [20:41]
Yeah, I sure will. That’s a good goal for me. Absolutely.
David Ralph [20:45]
You do that. And you tell us how it goes on. So we whip yourself in and change the pivot, as you say, You’ve changed twice? What was the thought process behind that? Because I see this time and time again, that people do pivot in their business. And more often than not, the pivot actually takes them away from what they should have been doing in the first place. And a lot of the times the pivot is to do with desperation, of earning enough money or paying the bills. So they think I’m going to do this, and I’m going to do that instead of actually staying true to themselves. What was your change of focus for?
Linda F Williams [21:24]
Yeah, I, what I did was, this was really weird. I took a two month course. That was, he said it was a LinkedIn course, and get your LinkedIn profile together. But what it wound up being was a marketing course. And it and what happened to me personally, was I got pushed into past a bunch of mindset, like, you’re challenging me now on the influencer thing. This course was hard for me, because in the first few weeks, I had to push back up past a bunch of limiting mindset. So what it did for me is it helped me to narrow my focus, specific to my LinkedIn profile. Okay, yeah. And so once I did that, then I had to rebuild a whole new website, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. So in the middle of all of this, what it did was, it taught me that my core focus, my core purpose, for existing can be the foundation of all that I do. But for me to throw all that out there going to confuse everybody. So what I did was, I do it all, but all my LinkedIn profile, it’s focused on leadership, because of all the leadership experience and the growth I had when I was with the federal government. And I found that I did that really, because it leverage multiple parts and aspects of the things that I learned. But it’s still based on my education, and the fact that I am a personal change agent. And my whole focus is, let’s cut to the core of all of the chaos, as opposed to chasing symptoms. So my LinkedIn profile is specific to leadership, because that was what I learned in my career. And it’s tied to human behaviour. My my website, though, I’ve got life coaching, executive coach in ebook, yada, yada, yada. So it’s been so my whole challenge has been not to go away from a focus on where I can make money. My focus has been overcoming certain limiting mindsets, and at the same time, leveraging the power of my academic background and my leadership background,
David Ralph [24:00]
how where’s the synergy between Linda that we spoke to at the beginning of the show, that was really raw and authentic, and the sort of education that leadership the the career Where’s, where’s the synergy between the two, then?
Linda F Williams [24:16]
Well, the synergy between the two from my, you know, you might see a different way. But the synergy between the two from my perspective is cutting to the core of the chaos. So in other words, the cures in the cause of the situation. So regardless of whether you’re a CEO sitting in the main office, and your whole life is to work from the flow up in your personal life, and your relationships, and your career, all whacked out, I’m not about giving you a bunch of do this, step one, step two, step three, we cut to the core of the chaos and what’s really at the core of the way you’re thinking, and why you’re thinking that way. So that you can make better choices and be happier in your own personal life on all levels. So the synergy comes all the way back to the human condition. It comes all the way back to the human condition, as I said earlier in our conversation, now,
David Ralph [25:08]
are you happy in your life? And Linda, because
Linda F Williams [25:12]
it’s, once again, I’ve got some growth to do, David, I’ve got some growth that I need to do. I’m not fooling myself about that.
David Ralph [25:21]
Okay, so can you teach people to live a more self centred and fulfilled life if you’re struggling? And this is an open ended question is I sort of, it’s just me thinking, are you in a place to teach people that as you become more useful, because you’re, you’re dealing with it?
Linda F Williams [25:40]
You know, what? This is a good question. I think that the question goes to one of the reasons why a lot of people don’t step out into their purpose. They’re, they’re judging themselves, or where they are, nobody’s going to be perfect and sit and pretty, ever in life. Because if you’re a human being, you shouldn’t be seeking to grow more, you’re always going to be dealing with circumstances outside of your control. Okay? So you so from the perspective that nobody’s life is ever going to be absolutely perfect. Let me put it like this, most people’s lives are not going to be absolutely perfect. But when you share of yourself, my sister told me that the power my platform that I need to be authentic, and real me truly who I am. And so the bottom line is, to some extent, I’m stuck on stupid, ain’t no shame in my game. I’m not trying to hide that. But I’ve learned enough along the way that I can, I can’t sit and watch other people going through the same stuff that I’ve been through. So while I’m still growing, David, I’ve already grown, I’ve already come a long way. So based on what I’ve already come through, the net gives me the position of being able to help other people that are in those same circumstances. I mean, you know, I’m not trying to save the whole world, but there’s a certain cross section of the International population that are just now going through what I’ve been through, or coming up on something or dealing with a mindset left over from that. So to the Alex, that I have no doubt that whatever I’m here for that, that I’m capable, fully capable of accomplishing. I agree where other people are concerned. Yeah, with helping others is concerned. That’s my main focus.
Unknown Speaker [27:26]
I think I never
Linda F Williams [27:27]
got caught up. Yeah, I’ve never gotten caught up into, oh, let me do this over here. Because that’s gonna make money. And let me do that over there. Because that’s gonna make money, I can’t not have that focus. Good. That’s it authentic to who I am.
David Ralph [27:38]
Now, I know, it makes perfect sense. And I think that is a powerful message for the listeners out there. But effectively, you’ve got to accept your faults, you’ve got to accept that, you know, we all sit on the toilet. We all, you know, have bad nights, we all do good things. Oh, yeah. And life is not the polished version we see online. And more often than not, it’s about accepting that our businesses are never going to be finished. They’re never going to be perfect. There’s going to be, but it doesn’t stop you being able to look at other people and know where they’re going wrong. And that’s the key thing. I think the key is a human trait where we can see other people’s issues, easier than we can see ourselves, we have a
Linda F Williams [28:26]
bottom line, we have a blind spot done way. Bottom line, bottom line, you said it, that is so darn true. Okay, so I could be sitting over judging Joe for this. And I’m sitting there being just stuck on stupid and Joe is, but the gut, but really your main focus is gotta be like, helping other people. And really leaning into who you are. I tell my clients all the time, your greatest power is realised in the truth of who you are, know that truth. And that truth is unfolding, as we grow as we heal as we gain new mindsets. It’s about embracing who you truly are. And the reason I went there earlier in this conversation is because for my growth, I had to be able to talk about it. Yeah, I had been fighting, talking about it. I wrote a little blog, I put it in draught, I wouldn’t release it at Darden to do a video about it. I didn’t do it.
David Ralph [29:31]
So So why did you? Why did you decide on Join Up Dots, but you were going to, you know, be open so easily.
Linda F Williams [29:39]
I did not? I did not? I did not know that. I was going to do that until you mentioned my voice. Right? I did not know until in that moment.
David Ralph [29:48]
So So was it I was it, because I supported you. But you felt more willing to sort of open up?
Linda F Williams [29:56]
Well, you know, let’s put our relationship aside here, because we already established to do something special between us. And it was not anything more than in that moment, I decided, no, Linda, you’re not hiding from this anymore. Why? Because you want to hide this vulnerability, you will never overcome it. And in that moment, I made a courageous decision that I was going to just talk about it and get it off my chest. And it takes courage for us to do that. Dave, there’s two storeys we think are too true to tell that are holding us back and blocking our vision. But I found that and I’ve even written a book on this, I found that if you get over your fear of opening your dog own mouth, about what you think is too true to tail, for whatever reason, pride, or I got an image and I don’t want to live until you get the courage to speak it out. It will hold you back. And in that moment, could have just blew it off said okay, thank you very much, David and going on. I’ve made a decision that I’m tired of this thing ruin me. I think the decision in that moment, I’m just tired of it ruined me. Let me go on until everybody that this is a problem. I’m having a mindset challenge of habit. And I see in my head that they can hold me back, but my heart is still hurt. So it was just a decision I made in the moment. And we all have stuff like that. We all have something in our lives that we think about ourselves is something that we can’t talk about, you know that when for me, I don’t know why it would trigger shame. I don’t know, I’ve added voice on my dog on life. I can’t change it never will. That’s conscious. That’s conscious mind telling me that, but my heart was somewhere else. And so it was just be in the moment, having the courage to be that vulnerable right now, David. So they might have announced my heart that this ain’t worth your destiny,
David Ralph [32:05]
when I’m speaking it out, hoping it comes from my heart. But I’m proud of you for doing that, Linda, and I hope it is a step forward for you, I hope in a little way you’ve opened that door that you’ve been hidden hiding behind Somehow,
Linda F Williams [32:23]
I really I really is just those in the moment decisions to be courageous enough to be vulnerable, that makes us more powerful. How can I couldn’t tell you to tell my clients, you know, your greatest power is resided to who you are, and take them through what they need to go through in order to face that truth. And I keep facing myself. See, that’s that’s what I love about what I do. David, you asked me, you know, how can you if you let you know what my deal is this and long as I could to newly to challenge myself, the way I challenged myself clients, I don’t let myself get off the hook. If I’m going to challenge Joe Blow, you need to blah, blah, blah, that I don’t get a pass on that my own life. And to me, that’s the power of authenticity. I’m not out here trying to put up a front out here on social media, like all that the bag of chips and the milk shake. I need to be Yeah, I know. Yeah, that you know, we can do when you mentioned it earlier, we can do that on social media, we can be everything and look so great. Take pictures in front of the Lamborghini in the big I don’t think I did it like you do it too. Or we can be very authentic and very, will be very ethical. As a coach for me, I have to hold myself to those standards. It’s a decision that I have made personally with respect to my authenticity, and being ethical, and not trying to hold every bug my clients to the standard that I can’t step to myself.
David Ralph [33:56]
I often consider it a bit these moments, you’re talking about these these in the moments, when you say am I going to do it or not like life’s bungee jump, and I’ve never bungee and I can’t see the point in doing it. But I know that when I’m standing on the edge, the edge is going to be worse than actually jumping. Once I’m jumping and doing it and I think okay, I’ve survived it. But it’s that bit to standing on that precipice, ready to jump off. And I think in life, we have those over time, don’t we? It’s like when you at school, and you see the girl that you really fancy, and you woke up. But as you walk up to you can’t say anything just took away. And yeah, you look at it, and you think it’s not going to kill you. It’s not going to do anything. But we still get right into the spot. YB situations?
Linda F Williams [34:47]
Yes, it’s you. It happens in a split second. Second, it happens in a split second, and see your audience you know, you got a lot of people out there who are fed up with sitting in the cubicle every day, they know that what they’re doing every day is not tied to their purpose. They’re out of aligned with who they truly are. And they just need somebody to give them the push and the power to make the decision to move toward their true true purpose in life. And if might be in this vulnerable, David, it’s going to help them to see that they’re not the only one out here feeling that mess. Then it was worth it to me.
David Ralph [35:27]
Here Here I agree. And one of the one of the special ladies that have come through my life through the show and I I referenced her in an episode recently, but I did is a lady called Megan. And Megan was a lady who was in San Diego in America doing a job that she really didn’t like. And she was having a bad time. Professionally, I suppose and emotionally and the whole smorgasbord of lives emotions was hitting her. And never she I think she lives in check as a back here, teaching has to be teach English and learn English. And she had so many of those moments, I think where we say those lives, bungee jumps that you think should I do it or should I not. And her life has dramatically changed. Now I don’t speak to her as much as I used to. But she’s such an inspiration to me for the reason of she actually did something and she kept on doing these jumps until she got to where she wanted to be. And none of them killed her. But I bet every single one of them were absolutely terrifying to do
Linda F Williams [36:39]
well said, not gavel down that you close the show. People need to know that when you make the transitions, it is fearful change is fearful change walks you down the road you never walked down before. And when you add in your own internal voice is trying to talk to you out of it. And then people in your life trying to talk you out of it, then you have to eventually have somebody there that’s going to be in your corner and support you through every step of that. Because we can talk ourselves out of stuff. The day I retired from my 37 year job, David. I didn’t wake up that morning planning on retiring. I had that was not in my mind, I was gonna pay off my car first, my boss sent me the wrong email at the wrong time. By the end of that day, I had filed my retirement papers and told him I was up. I’m out of here. That’s how quickly things can turn on a dime. Now my sister had been telling me for two years that you need to get on out of there, you know, not feeling pushing this paper anymore, yada, yada, yada. And I wasn’t here in a word she was saying. But it took one email at the wrong time. And I step down. And that happened since you went on for smoke. I retired that day after 37 years with the federal government. And I decided I was going to focus on what I’m here breathing for my purpose. Now, you hear people tell storeys like that, David. And they sound all glorious, and inspiring and motivating. But it’s not all that when it’s you making those decisions. And people need to understand my thing is this. Look, you can do it. That sounds cliche. I know every time you hit a little inspirational video, you’re hearing that, and then you’re looking at other people who did it. And thinking that oh my goodness, they’re so courageous. They’re no more courageous than you are. that whoever listening to this are no more courageous. David no more courageous. Those people on those inspirational videos are no more courageous than you are. And you can do what you know, your heart is telling you to breathe and to do. That’s where you find deep meaningfulness. There been many, you know, I’m an expert on cultural change and employee engagement. Okay. And then everybody’s trying to put the free food over here. Give that and then movie night? No, no, all the research is saying that employees are more engaged and happy in their jobs when they find meaningfulness in what they’re doing. And somebody sitting out there right now in the cubicle, or on their way home, in their car from a job that they cannot stay in doing. Because they’re not finding meaningfulness in it, it doesn’t mean they’re pushing paper. And they’re unhappy because they know that they’re breathing for another reason. And I just want to encourage you out there right now, that yes, that’s fine. It breaks it lean into being unhappy with where you are, because that’s going to be the catalyst to walk you straight in to the destiny that you’re here for, is going to walk you straight into the destiny that is a divine connection for someone else is going to rock you straight into the meaningfulness. Every time you wake up in the morning, because you’re doing what you were born to do, I just want to encourage you not to give up because this can be you.
David Ralph [40:23]
Now for all the listeners out there who wouldn’t want to hear Linda’s voice constantly, every morning, every evening to give you that burst of motivation. Your voice is a gift, Linda, and you’ve got to embrace it, you’ve got to get it out to the world.
Unknown Speaker [40:42]
David Ralph [40:44]
I, I could listen to you constantly. And because I know that with every word you say, there’s experience. And it’s not it’s not words that you’ve read in a book is not words, but you know, scene from a YouTube video, it’s stopped, you have lived and you have been through it, and you have come out with the scars and the warts. And so every time your voice makes a sound, that is life you’re giving us
Linda F Williams [41:12]
Thank you, I will embrace that. I will embrace that, you know, I’m over here, you when I talked to you, I get so emotional. But I was shut off from my emotional self for so many years, that I wouldn’t allow myself to feel for other people. And there’s something to the fact that that you draw that out of me in these interviews, I’ve really appreciate you.
David Ralph [41:34]
Well, we appreciate you as well. And you actually pulled me off the path today. Normally, I play motivational clips, funnily enough through the show. This time we haven’t. Because Linda has been delivering all the motivation that we need. But I want to take you on another journey. And I want to send you back in time, not to the young Linda, but to the Linda That was last on the show back on episode 287. And if you could go back and get have advice to how you got here. What would you say? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m going to play the music. And when it fades, you’re out. This is the second time you’ve done it. The sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [42:19]
With the best of the
Unknown Speaker [42:21]
Linda F Williams [42:36]
The day Hello. Yep, you went back, you’ve got that little Linda, you brought that little Linda long, but you’re still integrating her into your life right now. What I want to tell you is simply lyst You are the power of your purpose. And that entails everything that you are your mistakes, your vulnerability, TG, your authenticity, your voice. Yes, I said your voice. And every time that any aspect of your talent had been shut down in the past, it’s been because you listening to negative voices about your voice. Now I want you to understand something before you before I let you go right now, this is what I want you to understand that for you to turn your back on the little girl that you were many years ago, and come to realise 40 years later that she was the power of who you were, then you cannot turn your back on your voice. You cannot denigrate that you cannot be ashamed of that. And you can’t run from that. Because as again, you get me make the same doggone mistake. You’re turning your back on who God made you to be. And if your voice sound like Barry White, and so darn be it. Stop trying to be somebody that you’re not. Because when you do stop trying to be somebody that you’re not, and embrace the fullness of who God created you to be, then you will be fully equipped to be that divine connection for others. And they are the focus not you.
Unknown Speaker [44:14]
David Ralph [44:17]
Amazing stuff, Linda, for all the people that have been listening today. How can I connect with you?
Linda F Williams [44:25]
Just Just Google Dr. Linda F. Williams and all of my social media will come back. Before this airs. I will put a clip to that radio programme I told you guys about where they got. I got a hand in them. They’re behind but where they told me I was a transvestite. So and you can hear that I will put that on my social media. And you’ll be able to see that pin it to the top and want you to listen to it in David, look. I love you so much sight unseen, my friend.
David Ralph [44:55]
Sign here, sign here. Linda, thank you so much for spending time with us today. Joining us those dots. And as I always say please come back again when you have even more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining those dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Dr. Linda F. Williams, thank you so much.
Linda F Williams [45:13]
It’s been my honour.
Need to cry it out? Thank you, David.
I was trying not to let that go while we were all there.
Oh my god.
Thank you so much. Because apparently I got some healing to do over here.
Unknown Speaker [45:48]
David Ralph [45:50]
You can’t over emotion out.
Linda F Williams [45:53]
Thank you so much, David. He’s not good hanging
David Ralph [45:55]
around on all that.
Linda F Williams [45:57]
No, no, I’m gonna be fine over right here. My friend just popped me up when that airs.
David Ralph [46:03]
We will do you look after yourself, Linda? Well, what could you say after that? It’s a powerful one, I think is you know, it’s a powerful one. It really is. Somebody struggling with their inner self, their inner turmoil. But knowing that lacks the real thing, that’s the thing. That’s the that is the thing that they’ve got to bring out. That’s the thing that changes lives. And every one of us has been every one of us has, that. That luggage that we’re dragging around thinking that we’d rather tuck it under the bed where nobody sees it. But actually we should be opening that luggage and showing it to people our faults, our errors, our fantasies, whatever, our inner self because that changes lives. Thank you so much for listening to that episode of Join Up Dots. Thank you so much for Linda being who she is. If you want more of Linda, as I say jump over to Episode 287 it’s a good one is a powerful one. And we will see you again soon. Cheers. Bye bye.
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