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Introducing Natalie Sisson
Natalie Sisson is today’s guest joining us on the Join Up Dots Free Podcast interview.
She is an amazing lady who has over the last few years become a real online mover and shaker.
All the whilst playing the game on her own terms.
She has the hustle muscle working all over her body.
Over the last few years since leaving her hometown in New Zealand she has taken such consistent action she is in a place that so many people would like to be in.
In fact she is in many places that people would like to be.
Due to her drive she has become a travelling entrepreneurial powerhouse building a thriving online business.
Whilst on a mission to ensure 100,000 entrepreneurs create freedom in business and adventure in life by 2020 too.
How The Dots Joined Up For Natalie
Literally living out of her suitcase for years on end, Natalie Sisson has balanced this amazing ability to find stable wifi , whilst also finding adventure in every corner.
From becoming a world record holder at Dragon Boating.
To body sculpting, to winning countless Online awards.
It seems to me that everything she has achieved is by having the guts to step out of her comfort zone on a daily basis.
She has taken on obstacles and challenges which were never guaranteed stepping stones to success.
However she still wanted more and more.
But as we see time and time again in our success stories, that ability to go into the “Scary Zone” is the best way to take you onto greater and greater levels of achievement.
So I am delighted to see her doing so well, and of course delighted to have her on the show.
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs in todays Free podcast, with the one and only “Suitcase Entrepreneur” Natalie Sisson.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics such as:
How Natalie gets so much done everyday, she sometimes wonders at the inability of others to do the same!
How she loves not being in control as it brings about opportunities that perhaps wouldn’t have occurred otherwise!
How the branding for her amazing online success the “Suitcase Entrepreneur” was not the first thing she had thought off, but knew it was the one when it arrived in her life!
Why Natalie Sisson will always support strangers that are going after their dreams, but will not the ones that accept mediocrity!
How she has faith in her gut, and lives by intuition on a daily basis and wouldn’t dream of doing otherwise!
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Audio Transcription Of Natalie Sisson Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello there. Good morning. Well, how are we are hope we’re kicking booty or doing whatever you do to grab those dream lights that we’ve been talking about. Ever since we launched back on the 30th of April, it’s absolutely been an amazing journey. And we are getting bigger and bigger and better guests all the way along the people that have really got stories that will just inspire you over your complex in the morning. And today’s guest is somebody who has inspired me since I’ve been sort of virtually stalking her over the last couple of days preparing for this interview. She’s our guest who’s really an amazing who has over the last few years become a real online mover and shaker was playing the game on her own terms. She has the hustle muscle working all over her body and has over the last few years since leaving our hometown in New Zealand taking such consistent action. She’s in a place that so many people would like to be in. In fact, she’s in many places that people would like to be in is due to her drive, she’s become a traveling entrepreneurial powerhouse, building a thriving online business whilst on a mission to ensure 100,000 entrepreneurs create freedom in business and adventure in life by 2022. literally living out of a suitcase. for years on end, she has balanced this amazing ability to find stable Wi Fi wherever she goes, was also finding an adventure in every corner. from becoming a world record holder at dragon boating to Body Sculpting to winning countless online awards. It seems to me that everything she has achieved is by having the guts to step out of the comfort zone on a daily basis. She’s taken on obstacles and challenges which were never guaranteed stepping stones to success, but still wanted more and more. But as we see time and time again, in our success stories about ability to go into the scary zone is the best way to take you on to greater and greater levels of achievement. So I’m delighted to see you’re doing so well. And of course delighted to have you on the show. So let’s bring her onto the show to start join up dots the one and only suitcase entrepreneur Natalie Sisson, how are you Natalie?
Natalie Sisson [2:26]
I feel super awesome after that wonderful introduction.
David Ralph [2:29]
But you are you are super awesome. I’ll be honest, a lot of guests sort of come to me, or they get introduced to me, or I kind of go out and grab. And the ones that sort of come to me I have a kind of vague idea about and you was introduced by our mutual friend Tom Marquez, who was guest number one on my show. And as soon as he sort of introduced you to me if Oh, I know her yet she’s online. But when I started sort of delving into you, God, you’ve done a lot in your life. And it’s it’s kind of every page I was flicking over. I was thinking how she done that how she’s done that does does it surprise you how much you’ve done it in? Well, it seems quite a few years really.
Natalie Sisson [3:09]
You know, if I took more time to reflect back on what I’ve achieved, I probably would be surprised. But I’ve always been somebody who manages to pack a lot into my life. And I’ve realized that when I’ve set up appointments with people in my business, and I’ve said how about, you know, Thursday at four, use my scheduling system, and they’re like, Oh, I have a call that day, I can’t do it. And I’m like one call and the whole 24 hour day does not does not make a full day. So it’s just really interesting, I guess how people live their lives differently. But I would say yeah, I’ve been really blessed to achieve a lot. And that’s come from just loving life and going on adventures. And as you said, throwing myself out of my comfort zone regularly.
David Ralph [3:48]
Does that annoy you? When they do that called one core business? do you do? Or do you go? Come on? Come on. Its Natalie
Natalie Sisson [3:55]
depends on it depends on the personnel say like, really, you’ve got one thing and you’re holding, I’ve got seven and it doesn’t feel rushed. It feels very much in flow. So I guess just different people can handle different levels of activity and responsibility in a day It does. It does make me laugh a little bit, then, you know, perhaps way more on the Superman Superwoman scale, and also different people have different ways that they live their life.
David Ralph [4:18]
But surely that that must be that hustle, that ability to get so many things done, must push you on to greater success quicker. It’s got to isn’t it?
Natalie Sisson [4:28]
I think it just means you take massive action more quickly. So I’m really renowned now, I think for just taking action, just bite of anything. So I always do like some research. And I’ll definitely trust my gut. But I think it’s helped me to maybe succeed more quickly than some others. Because I’ve taken that action. There’s a lot of clients that I work with a lot of great customers. And their biggest holdup is perfectionism, which is another form of procrastination. So they just get stuck on all the wrong things and don’t end up taking any action to get them further.
David Ralph [4:57]
But that is a common thread, isn’t it to all the people that I am preaching to? Hopefully it’s not preaching, hopefully, it’s entertaining them on a daily basis. That is one of the common sort of threads that comes back to me by emails, oh, I would like to do this. But that’s got to happen. Or I’d like to do this because that’s got to happen. When I actually had the conversations with people on the mic. The guests who get on the show, they kind of cut through that. And I kind of go, yes, it’s got to happen. But I just put it to the side for a while. Oh, it’s got to happen. And I’ll do this around it. It’s that kind of mindset of just pushing through, but does separate, doesn’t it?
Natalie Sisson [5:32]
Yeah, it does. And I’m so glad you told that up because it is way too common with people. And I guess it’s my biggest bugbear. But also something that I really love to teach people is, is how to take action. And I’m running a program right now called the freedom plan. And it always comes back to freedom to me. So what does your life look like? And three years from now? What’s your perfect day? And how do we move you closer to that. And it’s really interesting to see how few people actually have a really clear vision on what they want out of life, their job or their business. And the minute you get clear on that, which does take a bit of effort, but it’s really empowering things to start to shift and happen and take you there. Honestly, it’s like the universe goes, Okay, you finally made up your mind, we’re going to get you there. And I would say that’s the biggest difference between people who are living their lifestyle of their dreams right now. And those who are still talking about living the dream
David Ralph [6:18]
I’m living into, I’m now living the dream. And I’m kind of halfway to living the dream. I’ve got an online show, it’s going absolute nut balls on a daily basis Can’t believe the sort of download biggest I’m getting, which is absolutely amazing. But I can see where my future is going to be. So I’m absolutely rigid. I’m not deviating in any shape or form because I know what I want to achieve. And I couldn’t have been like this six months ago, maybe a year ago, I wasn’t like this at all. But as soon as you start taking action, and you see I suppose how other action takers and other successful people actually responded to you. It strived it drives you on and you sort of strive forward constantly. And I think that’s what stops people, isn’t it? I think it’s the mind set. But they don’t realize that once you get a head of steam up, it actually does get easier to achieve that dream life.
Natalie Sisson [7:07]
Yeah, definitely. And I’d like to know from you, and it was your interview with me. But what changed a year ago that made you start taking more action and working towards your dream that
David Ralph [7:17]
I had a boss who joined our business, I’ve told the story a few times, but she was a complete cow. From the moment she joined my business, she basically threw my life out of whack. And I would had days when she wasn’t there. And the days were quite pleasant. And I had days when she was there. And I thought I used to sit there thinking to myself, or if I could just top all that that filing cabinet over as he walked past, I you know, I could become happy again. And it was that it was that one vision of my happiness can’t be dictated by one person. And I knew that in employment, which I’ve been in many, many, many years. Quite often that was the case. And when I go a good boss, everything was nice. And when I got a terrible boss, everything was terrible. So I just thought to myself, no, this is the first time in my life that I’m going to be an entrepreneur, I didn’t actually realize it was about word is only since I’ve been in this vibe that so many people are doing similar things. And they all call themselves entrepreneurs. But I didn’t I just call myself a kind of professional badass, somebody that was just going to desperately try to do something that was totally under my control. Just so bad. My happiness could be driven basically by myself, and nobody else. And it was simply about mindset was kind of self preservation really.
Natalie Sisson [8:37]
Okay, awesome. Good to hear. There you go. I just want to remind you, and that’s the thing, I think it’s coming back to the thing that drove you to make that change. So for me, I’ve been eight years in the corporate world. And my last job was actually in London, England, even though I’m from New Zealand, and it pushed me over the edge, it pushed me so far that I didn’t want to get up in the morning to go to work, which was very enlightening, because I did actually enjoy my roles. And it was a perfect job on paper. It just didn’t play out in the 50 year old white male old boys club that I found myself in and this kind of trade union era, which was just so not in line with my personality and what I wanted to achieve. So it drove me to quit, even though I got a pay rise. And I had this great job and move to Canada and just started fresh on my own business was nothing really in the pipeline, and no real idea of what that was. But I just wanted to get as far away from that life and that rat race as I could at the time. And I’m so glad I had that job because that’s what forced me to do it.
David Ralph [9:31]
We call that in this show. But Big Dot something that was so miserable or so depressing that it forces you to take action, and so many people out there, but they never get to that big dot and they’re just in the kind of comfort zone. And they go from day to day to day and nothing’s too bad. Nothing’s too good to sort of shake up that status quo. So it’s interesting that you had that I’ve had, and most of the people I speak to as well have fat, they have moments in their life that really they look back and go, God, I wish I hadn’t gone. Bloody hell, I’m glad I did as well.
Natalie Sisson [10:03]
Yeah, definitely. And I don’t think you have to have something that full on to change tech. But it really does help to, as I say, get you out of your comfort zone. So it has to be something that moves you enough to go. I want a better life than this. And I’m going to take action to do it.
David Ralph [10:17]
So where were you in London? Because I was in London for about 30 years.
Natalie Sisson [10:21]
Right? Where Where did I live? Or where was I staying?
David Ralph [10:24]
Where were you working?
Natalie Sisson [10:26]
I was working at the British Medical Association, which was the last role I had. And the role before that was a contract with Bausch and Lomb, which was really awesome. And both of them involve travel. But the Bausch and Lomb contracts will be going all over Europe, because I was heading up EMBA Europe, Middle East and Africa. So I love that and just seeing how different different cultures worked in and how they worked with their clients and the things that they needed. And I think that really translated when I started my own business to understand the different varying needs of all the coaches and the languages and how people reacted.
David Ralph [10:58]
And was that the City of London was that in the West End.
Natalie Sisson [11:03]
They were both actually one was in the south. And I can’t even remember the name of the place right now. And the second one was right down in Tavistock square, actually.
David Ralph [11:12]
Oh, yeah. No, I know it well. So did that inspire you to start sort of traveling because coming from New Zealand, people from New Zealand, people from Australia, they’ve got to travel really, otherwise, they just stay in their own country. Because you’re so far away from it anything. We like
Natalie Sisson [11:27]
to think we’re on top of the world, actually, and everybody else is far away from us. Plus, we’re on top of the world for Southeast Asia and the South Pacific Islands. I’ve always traveled since I was a kid. Since age two, my parents are both from Europe. So I feel incredibly lucky that it wasn’t a kid. I was just in a suitcase and off traveling the world. So I was traveling well before being in London, although I think London is a great city for just jumping off and going all over Europe really cheap. And and often people want to get out of the city during the weekend anyway.
David Ralph [11:55]
But it is you know, but that’s one of the things that’s the beauty of living where we do we can jump up over to Ireland, we can go to Scotland, we can go to Holland quite easily. But to go to a bit like New Zealand, New Zealand to get anywhere from there to Australia is you know, it’s five or six hours in it. How long is the flight?
Natalie Sisson [12:13]
to Australia is like two hours actually.
David Ralph [12:15]
So he’s not too busy.
Natalie Sisson [12:17]
And to the US it’s like 11 hours if you go to LA so it’s not fair.
David Ralph [12:21]
So So where’s where’s the place that really rocks you? But obviously New Zealand is home? Or maybe it’s not? How many more? Do you still closet as home?
Natalie Sisson [12:29]
I still honestly totally identify with it. I haven’t lived in New Zealand since 2006. I haven’t lived anywhere. Really, I live in my suitcase. And as people pointed out to me today when I was on a ferry wondering why I was carrying this big suitcase and I was like, well, it’s my life. But I’d say yeah, New Zealand I still strongly identify with it’s where I was born. I love it. I also feel that the related to England and Germany where my parents are from, I feel like a citizen of the world, I have Canadian permanent residency. And I just feel like I kind of can fit in everywhere and anywhere and sometimes the nowhere and nowhere as well. So it’s quite an interesting way of living life.
David Ralph [13:06]
A lot of people would be scared about I wouldn’t know. But they’d be scared not to have a base, they like to have their roots, but you thrive being able to literally put your hat down wherever you are and call it home for a while.
Natalie Sisson [13:17]
Yeah, I do, I think I really do. Although, as of next year, I’m going to be basing myself in fewer places for longer periods, so that I can hang out with my friends so that I can get involved in the communities. And, you know, because it takes quite a lot of effort to travel the way I do. And it’s not for everybody, I’ve loved it. But there’s also sort of a time limit, I think to how long you can do that for and continually plan your life, either on the spur of the moment, or well ahead, and just always be changing locations.
David Ralph [13:43]
Because what I find fascinating about yourself as as I was sort of looking through your about page and your LinkedIn profile, and all those kind of things is is not just you know, you have built a very successful business, you know, to be able to do what you do, being at home with sort of stable setup would be quiet, impressive, but to be able to do it where some places you won’t even have stable Wi Fi. Does that set, you know, does that set certain challenges, but sometimes you can overcome? Or have you become better at being able to find a way of structuring an online business, literally wherever you are.
Natalie Sisson [14:17]
Yeah, thanks for acknowledging that, because I think it’s probably one of the most challenging ways to build a business. And I’m often surprised at how successful my businesses become. I’m sure it’s a result of my brand and the way I live my life. But also, I’m often quite amazed that I’ve managed to make things happen. So I’ve just become really good at expecting the unexpected, even when I’ve planned in advance to have stable Wi Fi, or quiet a co working space or room or somewhere to work from. I also know that most of my clients know just to be flexible around timing and meetings. And that even though I’ll have my best intentions to make a coaching call, or to turn up to something that could be a flight delay, there may just be something that’s making me unable to do that. So I think people have become really respectful all of that. And yeah, I really like the unexpected. Now and dealing with the challenges I’ve had my fair share of no Wi Fi, no quiet spaces, no tech support, no decent infrastructure. And there’s ways I’ve built my business around that like knowing that Monday and Tuesday in my interviews and coaching call days. So those are the days that I need to have secure, good Wi Fi. And not getting too worried when my podcast has sounds in the background like birds, or cars or trains or whatever, because that’s part of what I’m doing and where I’m living. And then just as I said, sort of being a little bit more actually developing a lot more patients than I ever used to have around things not going my way. And just sort of as I said, being prepared for whatever.
David Ralph [15:40]
Which which is another stepping stone to success, isn’t it? You know, so many people base success and failure, they will look back on their life and go, Oh, that didn’t work. But you’re kind of dealing with those more often than not when you sit down to do something and it wasn’t quite there. So you find that at your mind to sort of work your way around it.
Natalie Sisson [15:59]
Yeah, yeah, differently. And you know what, for some people, they may find that really challenging, but I like change, I embrace it. And I think you have to adapt to it and get used to it. It makes life much more appealing. When you’re not in control of everything. I think it makes you much more resourceful, and open to opportunities that may come along that you’ve never even considered. So there’s always benefits.
David Ralph [16:21]
And what kind of opportunities do come your way? How can you think of one recently that was not on your radar at all? But now you think yes, really looking forward to that?
Natalie Sisson [16:32]
Yeah, I mean, case all the time, but I just say interesting opportunities, I was just up in Whistler, and I got to stay with a fan of my podcast who I normally wouldn’t take that chance, but her boyfriend and organized it, she was super surprised that ended up being a really lovely couple of days, staying with her meeting great people enjoying the lakes and the outdoor area up there just a beautiful place. And it’s just being sort of open to more things like that meeting people around the world and you never know, which people you meet will be in your life for a long time, how they’ll influence it, how you influence them. And other opportunities just sometimes have led to crazy things like speaking it out engagements around the world, or, and going to a new destination that I might not have considered. So I can’t even put my finger on how many but there’s just been so many cool incidences that have worked out really well from having my case, entrepreneur community and I book and just getting to meet people in person and be a part of their world.
David Ralph [17:26]
So So when you say that you live from your suitcase, you really do you, you’ve gotten that you basically take it from town to town to town, and you end up staying with people that you’ve never met before.
Natalie Sisson [17:37]
Eggs? Well, no, that’s a little bit less common. I’ve only done that a couple of times when true true fans and tribe members have actually reached out but now I will stay in Airbnb, I’ll rent apartments, I’ll stay in hotels, bed and breakfast. I’ll often stay with friends, especially in North America and parts of Europe because I have so many great friends there now. But otherwise, I’ll happily rent and obviously pay for different lives of a combination, generally more at market these days, because I feel like I deserve it. And I’m I’ve entered with my business. And you generally get better service and infrastructure when you’re in a better place.
David Ralph [18:10]
But I suppose having a successful business where you’ve got that ability to choose, but you’ve come from, I suppose in many places wrapping it, you are a lady now. But once again, if push comes to shove, and you go into a town and it’s a bit of a dodgy hotel, it wouldn’t faze you, you just go. I’ve had worse than this and put your head down and away you go.
Natalie Sisson [18:29]
Yeah, definitely. I did that in Philippines when I was writing my book. And I booked into quite a nice little hotel, but it was in a dodgy part of town, which I didn’t realize, and everybody told me not to go out at night and do all these things. And I ended up going to the gym there for $1 50 a week and just integrating with the locals and walking at night and all these things that you probably shouldn’t do. But you know, I’m not silly about stuff. But I like to take chances sometimes and just be ingrained in what people are doing and, and trust and in the right kind of people as well and opportunities.
David Ralph [18:59]
So have a Do you know the difference between not being silly? And taking a chance? How do you judge that?
Natalie Sisson [19:05]
I think it’s it always comes back to get right. Like I’ve been in a few situations where I felt this a little bit dangerous, maybe I should get out of here. And I’ve always trusted my gut and done that. But I’m never, I’m always aware, I’m always you know, heightened with my senses. I hold myself with confidence, I’m quite tall. So I walk walk in that way, it tends to make a lot of difference when you’re in areas that are less than ideal. I don’t put myself in silly situations normally. And I will always kind of have you know, security backup plan, don’t carry all your credit cards with you or your passports and keep things in different places. And I really learned a lesson on that last year in Vietnam where I got off a bus and somebody went screaming by on a scooter, which is what they do over there and motorbike actually, and ripped my laptop bag handle off my hand. And it was actually attached to my suitcase, which I’ve done just kind of as a bit of a loose safety precaution. And they actually saved my life because my entire suitcase laptop was running off down the road with his bike and I was running after them screaming. And they dropped it all because they realized they couldn’t unlock it and get away with my stuff. And that was one of those moments where so scary and horrible to see everything of mine going off down the road. But at the same time just realizing how silly I’d been because I had everything in those bags, rather than separating it out. So it was a good, good lesson learned it kind of pulled me back on track and made me realize how incredibly lucky I was. And just to be a bit more smart about traveling because sometimes you can get really lacks, like forgetting to get visas or just turning up a little bit late at airports or just you know, not being as safe as you could do what or cautious I guess when you need to be.
David Ralph [20:40]
And all your parents did around that’s me.
Natalie Sisson [20:43]
Know, certainly I got there in New Zealand and I traveled to various parts of the world to meet up with me as my sister and I, I’ve headed back home about two times since leaving and I’m going to be heading there soon actually.
David Ralph [20:54]
So doesn’t know, because I’m a father of four daughters. And wow, if I was sitting here here now listening to this podcast hearing that my daughter was in a street and a bag got snatch and all that kind of stuff. I think I’d be a bit freaked for her.
Natalie Sisson [21:09]
Yeah, I think they’re really good. They’re the best parents in the world. I adore them. They’re so great about just saying Do whatever you want in life, as long as you’re happy and you love it. So I think they’re really proud of me and what I’ve achieved, and I’m sure they’d love to me, me to be home more. And I’m sure they’d love me to not be gallivanting off, but they know I’ve got a sensible head on my shoulders. And I’ve been doing this for four years full time and traveling the world since I was young. So they’ve really set me up pretty well, I think. And I like the challenge of it.
David Ralph [21:37]
So So let’s take you back to that time when you were in New Zealand. No, actually, we would go back to when the the job in London was a bit rubbish. And you decided to go to Canada? And did did you share your sort of your your mindset with anyone at that time? Was there anyone we’re going on Natalie, Natalie? No, just just leave it a couple of weeks and it calm down? Or was it something that you was just dealing with on your own?
Natalie Sisson [22:02]
Oh, almost all my friends that I was crazy. They were like, Why are you leaving this great job and as pay rise, and I just invested in property with a friend in London. And the fact that they thought I was crazy. And that maybe it was a bad decision just made me even more determined to do it. And then it was the right move because anything else would have been playing it safe. And I just knew that I didn’t want to do that anymore. I was just so kind of fed up and needed to take this break for myself. So no friends were, they thought I was crazy. But at the same time, I think they were pretty supportive. And that was one thing I liked initially on moving to Canada was was a phone group of friends or mentors or other entrepreneurs who have done this for themselves, which I found pretty quickly, I went to a lot of networking events. But I find that invaluable now surrounding yourself with people who have been where you’ve been, so that they can actually advise you rather than people who will never do what you want to do and are scared by it. And they basically project the theme song to you, which is often your family and closest friends. And it’s lovely that they do that. But they’re not always the right people to do when you’re wanting to make a big leap
David Ralph [23:02]
is one of the themes. Once again, it comes out in every episode. But all the successful people I ever had coaches or mentors or support group and it doesn’t matter if they are virtual ones, or real life ones. It’s so important, as you say, to surround yourself. And I think that’s one of the things that routes people to where they are, when they share dreams with the person who’s sitting next to them in their office. More often than not, they will scoff and they will go Haha, yeah, you say about about your two years, you’re still be sitting next to me. And they don’t have that kind of support group to say yes, go for it, Natalie, just go for it and see what happens. And, you know, if worst comes to worst, you can always come back to London and get a job. But you’ve got to try it. And so you I think you were lucky to have a support group around you, but kind of knew really who you were and what you was going to become.
Natalie Sisson [23:54]
I didn’t want my friends knew who I was, and they embraced it. And they thought it was cool. They didn’t necessarily think it was a great idea. And when I got to Vancouver, I really knew nobody. So that was me just sort of dealing with it and going this is what I want to pursue. And this is very important to me. And from there. I think I attracted the right people and who were like, yeah, you should be doing this going for it, etc. So there was this kind of a lot of it was under my own initiative, spurred on by I love proving people wrong, and I hate authority. So when people kind of say, this isn’t a good thing, or maybe you should just do the normal thing that spurs me on to do it, this combination of good people and also my own determination.
David Ralph [24:32]
So So where do you Where do you get all this kind of attitude from because I’m writing these notes down, that you love not being in control, which most people would love being in control. You love proving people wrong? And you you don’t like authority? What was that kind of parental thing? Is your mom and dad like that? Or was it something that you saw as a kid?
Natalie Sisson [24:50]
Something I don’t love control. But I think I’m just good at being able to be flexible. And so obviously have to have a certain amount of control to run a business and your life from a suitcase. I think my parents are very giving and loving and open minded. And in some ways, my mom is a little more conservative and risk averse. So perhaps through that I always used to sort of push away from that and see what I could do. My father is very, very open minded and likes to try new things. So I probably took the best from both of them, and combined it. And I’m just driven by this desire to live a really, really good life. And that’s often not a conventional one. So not sure when it started becoming even more strong within me. But having my freedom fighters in my community and building my suitcase entrepreneur brand is definitely enforced it even more I tend to look to live up to those values as much as I can.
David Ralph [25:40]
I’m gonna play some words now. And this is a speech that Jim Carrey did recently, and I think it says a lot about what we’re talking about here. So this is Jim Carrey
Jim Carrey [25:48]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was letting from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love. Now that that could
David Ralph [26:15]
really be in your voice.
Natalie Sisson [26:18]
Yeah, but I probably don’t have quite as many facial expressions as Jim Carrey
Yeah, definitely. I mean, what are we waiting for? It just I love. I absolutely love Yoda saying and I always think about it whenever I may be stalling out on something, which is, Do or do not. There is no try. And that’s pretty much how I live my life. So I you know, I love that Jim Carrey message. I love a lot of the TED TEDx speeches that I listened to and the presentations. And ultimately, it’s about knowing that every single minute of your day is up to you on how you want to live it. And to choose life now, rather than deferred plans is a really smart way to live. Even if it seems a little bit in the moment and scary for people. Anybody got one life and it could be gone tomorrow.
David Ralph [27:03]
Oh, I love you Natalie Sisson, I like everything that you’re saying that there’s so much I’m not in the same place as you. I’m kind of quite behind you in many ways. But there’s a big vibe of what you’re talking about that I’m thinking, yes, I can already feel it in me, I can already feel that I want to prove people wrong. And I want to build something that’s bigger than me. And you’re doing that, aren’t you? You’re doing something, you know, just to ensure that 100,000 entrepreneurs create freedom in business. That that’s that’s kind of mind blowing. Because you start off in Vancouver, you got a laptop, and you got Wi Fi. And if you’re like me, and like most people, I suppose you basically lift up your laptop and you think, what should I do? And it kind of takes a while to actually find its theme. And I would imagine the suitcase entrepreneur brand came a little bit later because that seems to perfect as well. Did you come up with that idea? First
Natalie Sisson [27:55]
thing to perfect? isn’t yet no, I was actually my blog was called woman’s world with a Z. So ends in woman kind of thing. And it was all about, you know, being the ultimate resource for female entrepreneurs, which is obviously a massive target market, not a great niche, because it’s not defined. And about a year into it and telling people what I did you know, I help people build online businesses from anywhere and have a great lifestyle and do it for my suitcase. And I just got kind of tired of us answering the same questions. Where do you live? my suitcase? Well, how does that work? And finally, I was chatting to a guy at a conference, a blogging conference. And he said, Oh, so you’re like a traveling entrepreneur? And I was like, Yeah, I guess so. And he said, so you’re like a suitcase entrepreneur. And I was like, Oh, my God, that’s it. And he’s like, buy the domain name. I was like, I will. And everything kind of came from there just in terms of clarifying everything that I was doing, and my messaging, and the copy and the themes that I wanted to talk about, and my blog, and my podcast, my videos and the community that I wanted to attract. So yeah, I would say it was a whole year of, you know, just kind of not waffling about, but writing inspiring articles, but very broad and not speaking to one particular audience before I started really honing in on and changing that brand. And from there, it’s grown in leaps and bounds because I finally had a real focus and definition of who I was going after and who I wanted to help and impact.
David Ralph [29:10]
So So what you’re saying what I’m saying to everybody out there is it doesn’t have to be perfect to begin with, you just need to do stuff. And little by little things will come out of the woodwork and things will change. And you’ll get better at doing it and the blog will get better or the podcast will get better. But at the beginning, no one’s going to notice it anyway. Because no one is going to be sitting there waiting for David Ralph to release his first podcast on that to the system to that first couple of words on to a blog. So you can make mistakes in the early days, can you and as long as you’re taking that kind of consistent action, and you’ve got a kind of vague idea what you want to achieve. It comes together quite quickly. And when it does, it’s like well, why did I never see this before this with this is so me, I should have just known this.
Natalie Sisson [29:58]
Yeah, exactly. But I think a lot of people sit there and they’re waiting for inspiration and passion to slap them in the face and go, this is what you should be doing. Which, by the way is you know David doesn’t happen, it usually starts out with something that you’re quite good at, or that you enjoy. Sorry, actually, it’s what I call the sweet spot. It’s not my saying either, but that intersection between what you’re good at what you enjoy, and what people will pay for. But I think a lot of the time people think they have to be madly passionate about it, they have to be an expert, and then people will pay them, which is not the truth at all. And you know, the suitcase entrepreneur brand wasn’t something I was madly passionate about, I was just living my life by my values, and starting to find my voice and starting to be able to help people. And as I got better at it, I became more passionate about it. And people got more results, and they loved it more. And then it became this kind of role where now I just adore it. And I get to make a huge ton of impact and work with great people. And I get well paid for it. And I’ve worked really, really hard for that. But it doesn’t just come along one day and slap you in the face, which is what I kind of thought it should do. And I think a lot of people I talked to just sitting there waiting, they’re waiting for permission to be awesome. Or they’re waiting for this integration to cross a path and they’re going to grab it. And unfortunately, that very rarely happens.
David Ralph [31:11]
I was sitting at my desk. And this is when I quit. And the story is back on episode one if anybody wants to go back and listen to it. But when I decided that I was going to quit my job, the only person that I thought might respond to my, my leap of faith was Tom walkers. And I’d never met him. I’d only ever read his blogs, and I’ve listened to some of these podcasts. But I kind of I got him somehow out of all the blogs in the world, I just kind of got he’s and I used to look forward to when he actually presented something new to the world. And I sent him an email and it’s pretty much said, You know, I Tom, you don’t know me, you’re probably never going to know me. But I’m going to quit my job. And you’ve inspired me to do this. And within about 10 minutes, I got a response back from him. And it was a very kind of cagey response, which kind of it was, yeah, if you really think this is the right thing to do when when do it and it’s not going to be so hard. And as long as you put effort in blah, blah, blah. So he wasn’t just going, you know, yes, punch your boss in the face, and then walk out and then we’re all going to be winners, he was giving me a balanced approach to it. But what it did tell me is that I don’t actually have to have all the answers, all I’ve got to do is believe that I can achieve something, and I left my job and I walked out. And I didn’t have an idea really what I was going to do. And it certainly wasn’t podcasting, I was probably going to be a web developer or something like that. But then, when this came along, and I was listening to once again, our friend, Michael O’Neill, who’s um, he’s gonna, we’re recording this, what day is it today, the fourth of fifth of August, he’s going to be unreleased on the sixth of August, which is Episode 100. Because he was the man who when I listened to him on the mic, I thought I could do that. That’s what I could do. And that was life changing. I didn’t, I didn’t even have a mic. I didn’t have you know, a computer, I had nothing. But I just suddenly felt that is for me. And I’ve made it work. And I sort of pushed through. And people just need to know that I haven’t made it, he doesn’t have to be perfect. As I keep on saying, you just need to want to do it. And you don’t have to be hugely passionate, you just have to keep on presenting yourself presenting your presenting sale. And hopefully, people start believing in yourself. And then once you get people believing in you, then you’re really cooking on gas. And then it’s like a success vacuum, you start to have more successful people come towards you. And then it makes it easier and easier and easier. been a bit of a rant, bam, I’m afraid.
Natalie Sisson [33:40]
Don’t be afraid it was a great manager. That’s very, very true. Once you put out there what you want. And when you start believing in yourself, other doors open up and people come out to support you. And it’s it’s quite a wonderful thing.
David Ralph [33:51]
Have you found that amazing like I have that virtual people, obviously, they’re real people. But for all of us, we connect with people online. I’ve never met any of them. Not not one, but I can send emails out and like Tom, for example, I’m talking, he’s been such a supporter of me, he’s been absolutely amazing. And I could count on, you know, all my hands and my feet, the amount of people that are ready to support me plus, and it kind of blows my mind why buy a willing to do that, and I’m sure you’re exactly the same, you will support people that you’ve never met. So why do you want to do that, because it’s a big mindset that people have to overcome, to start getting it going don’t leave that there’s no one out there that will support them.
Natalie Sisson [34:34]
Yeah, I mean, the reason why I support people is that I just support people’s hopes and dreams. And if they’re willing to back it up with massive action and determination, then I will support them even more. And also just the nature of my work. I get emails every single day from people sharing their hopes and dreams with me and their challenges. And I just find that really awesome that they will put that out to it. You know, I’m not a complete stranger, because they’ve probably followed me for a while. But it’s really, really so lovely that they’ll share it. And I appreciate it. And I get where they’re coming from. And everybody’s been there. You know, I’ve been there before. So if I can help them with some guidance, mentoring, or all the value that I provide on my blog that often answers their questions, then that’s what I want to do. It makes you feel good, too, because they’ll come back to you in a month or year or even some way down the track and say, You know what, Natalie, I listened to something you said two years ago, and I finally took action and done it. It’s been awesome. And thanks to you, and this is where I’m at. And it’s just such a crazy cool feeling to have that. And I’m sure you’ll get that with join up dots and yeah, it’s just an amazing feeling. I think I do it because it makes you feel good. You make an impact, and you help people.
David Ralph [35:39]
Because the very first show I released I got an email straight away. And it amazed me I wasn’t expecting anyone to listen. And it made me realize I’m not going to ask you the question. But it made me realize how how a connection is built with a voice and a voice that goes into people’s ears. And to my way of thinking it’s far more powerful than a blog. But how do you feel because you’re a blogger, and you’re a podcaster? Do you think there’s more emotion and connection with podcasting from people actually hearing your voice? But I feel like they get to know you because you’re writing their brain? van actually on the written word.
Natalie Sisson [36:20]
Absolutely 100%. I mean, there’s still people who love to read, and they really liked what they read. And they comment on that and they share it. But podcasters really helped me to just you know, you’re in people’s ears every single week, you’re in their head, it’s like an intimate conversation with just you and I and your listeners. It’s awesome. And so I get a lot of people who think that they probably know me through that, which I appreciate it. And they’ll come up to the event. And they’ll be like, Oh my god, Natalie, it’s blah, but they’re just so used to listening to me all the time, that I think they just, you know, and I’m exactly who I am in person as well. So I’ll always say hello, that I think that’s a incredible tool for making deeper connections and allowing people into your world and, and you’ve been 11 today, it’s I think it’s fantastic. It’s also a great business tool, great for credibility, for building up relationships and networks of the people that you interview and have on so it’s, I adore podcasting.
David Ralph [37:11]
Because you’re great idea. You know, I’ve listened to quite a lot of your podcasts. And it’s what’s a nice way of saying it, it sounds like you don’t know you’re recording, which is I don’t know if that’s what you’re aiming for. But it sounds like you’re just having a conversation. And it’s not really an interview, but you’re getting those nuggets out of people was was that how you structured it?
Natalie Sisson [37:35]
That’s awesome. I love that. No, I think it’s just my style I, I generally turn up and I don’t want to have done too much research into my guests, even if I’ve picked them or met them. I want to bring that out during the interview and be just as curious as somebody who’s listening. So ask all those questions that they hopefully had. And I really do hope that it’s a conversation. And it’s fun, and it’s stimulating for the person as well. So it’s a great compliment. Thank you. But I think it’s just my style. And it’s worked well. So
David Ralph [38:00]
and was it you start because I didn’t listen to episode one. I must admit I must have dipped in about Episode 20 or something onwards. But um, was it your style straight away? And when when you listen back to episode one and two, is it what you are now? Or was it a sort of diluted version of yourself?
Natalie Sisson [38:16]
I think it was just a, I’m getting to know podcasting version of myself. So I think it was still me. And since then I’ve probably injected way more humor and some quirks and just, you know, become a little bit more loose, I would say around things had a bit more fun with it. And when I first started was really just getting to know the medium, I was probably bit more nervous with guests, and I researched a little bit more, but my style has always been off the cuff. That’s how I think this that’s where my magic happens. And so I run with it like this, not that you don’t want to change your style, but I’ve improved on it and just continue to get better guests become a better interviewer I hope and understand what sort of my audience really wants to listen to.
David Ralph [38:55]
Because other than writing the introduction that I do, which has become the famous part of the show, so many people go wow, you know what an introduction? I don’t have any questions at all. I just had the words of Natalie Sisson on a bit of paper. Because I believe what the way that you do it is right. And I hear so many shows where not only are they asking questions, you can hear it. But they’re asking the same questions every show. And you can ask yourself, why do you do that? You know, I know I mentioned a lot john Lee Dumas. But john Lee Dumas is like the benchmark for podcasters. Because he, he, he’s taken a podcast and he’s built a business around it and a bloody successful one as well. So if anyone’s getting into it, I think a lot of them want to be him. And I just think I will replicate that format, and then I will be a success. But it’s because he’s being who he is, isn’t it? He’s playing to his strengths. And you doing what you’re doing? Somebody’s coming along, ticking all the boxes and going right? Okay, Natalie does is Natalie does that I’m going to do that. It’s not necessarily a given that you’re going to be successful, you’re much better off to play your own to your own personal strengths, don’t you think?
Natalie Sisson [40:02]
Hundred percent. That’s why I love Oscar Wilde, be yourself. Everyone else has taken hundred percent Be yourself. You know, you can emulate other people, you can steal from the bits that steal and a good way from the bits that are working for them that you like, but always make it your own and put your own spin on it. Because otherwise you’re just going to be gentle, or unlike everybody else.
David Ralph [40:22]
Can you see yourself? I’m going to play the words of Steve Jobs in the moment. And can you see now, how you got here? Or is it kind of a murky midst of time, but you kind of vaguely know, Best Lead on to bat and it’s just action that has got you to this point? Or do you have firm dots, firm stepping stones that you can say yes, because of the job in London, I went to there. And because of that I went to them because I went and here I am now.
Natalie Sisson [40:50]
I believe it’s a combination of both. Like if I really look back, there’s some clear dots that were part of my expertise and previous jobs and things that I did, the way that I live my life that led me to take the opportunities and decisions that I made. And some of that was lack of preparation, meeting opportunity, and some was making things happen. But yeah, if I really look at it, I think I’ve probably always been on this path. I just wasn’t always clear on exactly what it was or how it looked.
David Ralph [41:18]
That’s exciting, isn’t it?
Natalie Sisson [41:21]
Yeah. And I don’t think you should always have the answers, like a lot of people seem to think and you shouldn’t have it all worked out before you get there. So I’d love for people to know that as well.
David Ralph [41:32]
Well, yeah, because as you said earlier, you get opportunities when you are not looking in the right direction, because you’re just not as focused as you should be, or you’re struggling to do something. But once you do get past that struggle phase, and that’s what I’m finding now, the first, maybe three, four months of this show, and I go out seven days a week, and there’s no one helping me at all. It’s just me doing all this. And it was absolute killer. And people were saying to me who I used to work with. You look terrible. And I used to say yet, but once I get to the point where I want to be, things will get easier. And funnily enough, it’s still me now. And I don’t know if it’s just a fine tuned, or I’ve got better at it, or it’s not taking me as long to do certain things. But things have got easier. And things have got more streamlined. And so you can sort of move through those dots of life. And even if you’re not sure what dot you, Yvonne, you look back on, you can go, yes. I’m here now because of that. And it wasn’t really the dot I was planning to step on. But I can see how it worked out.
Natalie Sisson [42:32]
Yeah, very much so well. But
David Ralph [42:35]
I’m very Randy tonight, Natalie, I’m not sure what’s coming up.
Natalie Sisson [42:41]
But it’s good.
David Ralph [42:42]
Well, let’s play the words of Steve Jobs because he said this beam quite well. And we play every show. So this is Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs [42:49]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [43:24]
So what do you actually trust in?
Natalie Sisson [43:29]
Great question I trust in my
and my gut. I know a lot of people talk about that. But I really do trust my intuition. And I trust in all my years of experience in life, living the wonderful road of life, that I’m going to make the right decisions for myself and for others. And then I’m always going to take hopefully the high road when it comes to anything that I do. And I also trust that everything is within my control, and that some of the best things in life happen when you relinquish that control, to an opportunity or to a moment. So there’s two ways of kind of living that life and being open to that and being flexible. That’s what I interesting.
David Ralph [44:10]
So So do you trust that your business is going to achieve the hundred thousand entrepreneurs by 2020?
Natalie Sisson [44:17]
Yeah, I do just because it’s such a great goal. And I love it, and I work towards it. And other people really appreciate it now, too. And I think I’m already well on that way. I mean, it depends on how you define that as listeners of your podcast. Is it customers? Is it people who bought your courses that people have read my book is that people who have heard me speak and I would say, Well, on the way to making that happen, it could happen earlier. And I should probably change it to something like a million. So yeah, I think I definitely do trust in the processes that I put in place. And I live and breathe this, this brand and my mission, and that’s going to make sure that it’s a reality,
David Ralph [44:49]
how will you know that you’ve achieved that hundred thousand?
Natalie Sisson [44:54]
Well, as I said, those metrics that I kind of place on it a pretty clear to me and who I am reaching and who I’m impacting. And the freedom plan program that I’ve recently launched as a pilot and is going to be in full release in September is going to be something I hope really starts to make a huge impact with hundreds if not thousands of people. And then you can’t even begin to imagine the people who talk about the work that you do. So people who talk about your podcast, and I know a lot of people are referred to me now by interviews or things I’ve read my book or other people who speak highly of me, which is amazing. So I can’t even kind of begin to ironically join the dots on how many people my message may have reached.
David Ralph [45:34]
Because I was talking to Tom Ziegler the other day, who was the son of Zig Zig another motivational guy. Right? Yes. And he was saying that he’s dead is estimated that he’s dead has impacted 250 million people. Wow. Now that is kind of it’s like being Jesus or something in there.
Natalie Sisson [45:55]
Yeah, it is actually
David Ralph [45:58]
250 million people. And I said to him on the show, I said, Do you think your dad was a bit freaked by it? Because one of the things that I’m striving on this show was I was striving to get 2000 listeners. And once I got 2000 listeners it kept and just going up and up and up. And I had this moment about two weeks ago, but I was sitting with my wife, and I suddenly four. Is this getting too big for me? Am I not able to handle it? And I don’t know why? Because logically, I’m doing exactly the same thing. But 2000 people getting value from Ben hundred thousand people. But in my head, it was suddenly like, Oh, my God, this is getting too big. 250 million would would blow my mind. But But you’re quite comfortable with 100,000. And you’re already thinking of pushing it out further and further and sort of growing back. So is that just a natural competence that you build up from being into it a while. And because I’m quite young in this game, I’m still having those moments of doubt.
Natalie Sisson [46:55]
Yeah, I think exactly it is. I mean, even a couple of years ago, even 18 months ago and still have doubts about who am I to do this? And where’s this going? And how much effort Am I putting in and then you have those great days when people come to you and they say your, your work? is life changing? you’ve inspired me to do this, and it makes it all great. You want to carry on? So I think yeah, it’s it’s something you should always push, you should always push past your boundaries, you should celebrate the successes, and all the wonderful things you’re doing. And then you should also go on and say, Well, how else can I make an incredible impact here? What else can I do to really live this life and make a difference? So yeah, I think you should always be pushing, not in a way that pushes people away that that that brings you out the best in you. And yours is incredible life, isn’t it? You know, in the introduction, I was talking your world record holder, a dragon boating, and you kind of think, once again, How the hell did that happen, especially in the English Channel. Now I’ve been on the English Channel, and it’s the busiest waterway on earth or something. And so being on a little dragon boat, pounding along with the theme chain to Hawaii, five hours, something in your head, that must have been
David Ralph [47:59]
Natalie Sisson [48:01]
Should I think we had any music we were you know, listening to our health saying, you know, power of 10 and 321. And watching these massive ships coming through there. Absolutely speeding, we were just this tiny minute boat. So yeah, I definitely. It was a really exciting, exciting time. We trained pretty hard for it. And it was a team effort, which was fantastic. And certainly no always look back on the fond memories. And
David Ralph [48:25]
I will be taking you back in time in the moment. But the weirdest thing you did, because you are a very attractive lady. No doubt about that. But when you did your Body Sculpting, it’s a kind of strange look. What was that something that you was into at that time? Or was it process of actually doing it? Just the fact that you’re in the pictures, your face is white, but your body is as brown as a bear is a kind of strange thing for women to do.
Natalie Sisson [48:50]
My face was actually Brown, but the lights on stage just make it look real. Yeah, it’s a definitely a strange thing to do. I just did it once actually, to prove to myself that I can could, once again I was just fascinated by I mean, it’s a strange, odd sport, if you can call it a sport, but it does get you to supposedly what is the best shape of your life where you’re just lean as anything. And your muscles are in alignment and that to you and your you know, your basically your body at its leanest, and supposedly most fittest I’m not. I’m saying supposedly because it’s not where’s that healthy. But it was just fascinating for me to get disciplined and create that and see what my body was capable of and how lean I could look. And yes, it was an incredible journey, nine months of a lot of difficulty, a lot of chicken and broccoli and tons of training. And I’m really proud of it. And I won my competition and I’m really proud. And then after that I was like, right, there’s no way I can limit myself to this kind of way of living and the things that I had to give up. But fascinating journey and great achievement really. So yeah, I just like to go on interesting adventures and challenge myself.
David Ralph [49:53]
And did you feel attractive? At that stage?
Natalie Sisson [49:56]
I felt attractive about three months before that probably in the photos you’re looking at, I was a little bit more feminine still. And I had more meat on me. And I was just feeling really fit and lean, and healthy and just full of energy. You can tend to lose energy near the end because you’re not eating enough. But yeah, there were definitely times when I was feeling really sexy. I’m sure my boyfriend at the time may have thought otherwise.
David Ralph [50:19]
I’m gonna start working out straight away even before we finish the show. I’m gonna body like you just so I can feel sexy by the time I get home. The last kind of question really is what comes out in this conversation is but you like the process of building something you like the process of training in a team you like the process of building a business you like the process of Body Sculpting. And you know, the winning the countless online awards and stuff. And it’s it’s a strange I’m trying to battle in my head where part of us seems to be somebody that is very much go with the flow. And if it happens, I will deal with it. But there’s a there’s a real structure to you isn’t there you like to do but kind of the training you like to do the the bite sized chunks that leads towards something?
Natalie Sisson [51:07]
Yeah, definitely. That’s a really good, cool, yeah, I’m a very much a free spirit. But I’ve realized over the years, that discipline actually gives you more freedom. So I’ve done a good job of reeling myself in creating great systems with my team and with myself, focusing my time, or focusing activities that are the best use of my time that will drive me either forward in business or in life. So I think I go with the flow where I need to, and then I take control where I need to. And that’s been really good to be able to have that flexibility of character to get me through some of these funny moments in life.
David Ralph [51:40]
Do you know the first person that said about the process? I was talking to Kathy O’Dowd, who was on episode 88. And she was the first lady to get to the top of Everest on both sides, the north and the south side. And I was saying to it must be amazing to stand on the top of Everest. And she saw one Yeah, yeah. So why is OK? And I went on, come on you let me hire you in space. That’s going to be amazing. And she said, Well, he’s kind of amazing, she said, but that wasn’t the point of me getting up there. It was the process. I wanted to see whether I could do it. I wanted to work through the challenges to get to the top. And I see a lot of Caprio doubt in yourself. I you know, it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a picture one day of you sitting on top of Everest with your laptop, which would be brilliant picture to have, wouldn’t it for your for your suitcase entrepreneur.
Natalie Sisson [52:32]
Yeah, that would be amazing. I have no intentions of actually going up Everest, I mean, it’s crossed my mind. But that’s just like a different beast. And as you said to her, it was probably all about the journey, all the training, all the camaraderie, the times you have to go halfway up and then back down. I mean, trying to climb Everest, as she probably mentioned, there’s a whole lot of series of up and then turning back to go back in order to reach the top, which must be incredibly frustrating. So I would say the journey was probably way more exciting than just reaching the summit, which everybody seems to think about. I’m not a huge lover of cold, and altitude. I have climbed mountains, and I do like rock climbing and I love skiing. But that’s just crazy and a whole nother level.
David Ralph [53:12]
Well, just before we send you back in time, and we put you on the mic on this sermon on the mic, what’s the thing that you are most driven to at the moment, obviously, you got the big mission, the 2020. But what what’s the kind of thing that really is for the next six months.
Natalie Sisson [53:29]
Actually, ironically, it’s getting more of my own freedom back. So I give a lot of energy to people, which I love doing. It’s a natural part of my makeup. But I’ve realized that with the freedom plan launching and going back home to New Zealand to see my family and my newborn nephew, that there needs to be a little bit more time for Natalie, time for me to have my own downtime, ways to grow the business around programs and products that I have and less active income. And also time probably for me to meet an awesome guy and do more of that inches around the world. So that there’s somebody else to share that with because I think I’ve been on such a mission myself for the last four years that that would be pretty neat. I’m ready for it now.
David Ralph [54:09]
Do you think guys will be daunted by you? Because I think I would honestly if I met you, especially that I was reading that you pick guys up literally not not pick them up in bars, but you actually lift them off the ground. And I’ve never met a woman like that.
Natalie Sisson [54:26]
Yes, it’s a strange, strange breed. Yeah, they are. And I I honestly get people telling me that guys are good friends and also interested, you know, you’re intimidating, but it is certain certainly guys out there who are confident in their own abilities and have their own thing going on in life and their own values. And I’m sure will click and have an amazing time. So I’m not that scary person. I just love life and more than willing to stick around for the right person and said a little little there and say it. So I think it’s just the next part of the adventure. And hopefully I’ll also be an inspiring partner for them. And I fully support people on their dreams and mission. So that’s a good thing to
David Ralph [55:00]
absolutely, you said it brilliantly. Well, this is the part of the show that we like to send you back in time. And if you could go back in time and have a one on one with the young Natalie, what age would you choose? And what words would you say? Well, we’re going to find out because this is the Sermon on the mic.
Here we go. With the best bit of the show.
Natalie Sisson [55:41]
Dear Natalie, oh you lovely person, you full of life, free spirited and adventuring around the world. Make time to stop and smell the roses, which you know you love to do. But continue to do that throughout your life. Because you need to live in the present moment. You have big dreams and big hopes for yourself and for everybody else. But don’t forget to give energy and time to you to recognize your own dreams and to enjoy the moments every single day. They call it a present for a reason because it’s a gift. Don’t forget to just focus in on that. Make sure to let people into your life and let them help you. We know you’re independent, but helping people and having people help you will only allow you to succeed in every single aspect of your life and business even more. Be kind to yourself, be grateful for what you have, and make time to spend with your important friends and family always because those people will be with you for life. And most of all, keep having fun and adventure and pushing yourself where you need to stretch yourself and become the best person and leave a legacy that you’re really proud of. And never ever ever stopped doing handstands and crazy places because it’s your signature move. And you know you love it.
David Ralph [56:57]
My daughter would love you she does have stance all the time and we we cannot stop her and she does it two inches away from the TV and we keep saying Can’t you you’ve got the whole house to do it. Why do you have to do it so close to the TV? Have you always been a handstand?
Natalie Sisson [57:12]
Yeah, handstands, Rolly pulleys cartwheels. Love them.
David Ralph [57:16]
He would love you as much as we’d love to you. How can people connect with you, Natalie?
Natalie Sisson [57:22]
They can connect all the dots at suitcase entrepreneur.com. I’m also all over social media at Natalie Sisson on twitter at Natalie Sisson on Instagram, Facebook at suitcase entrepreneur, but they’ll they’ll find me I would love for them to connect up. Maybe grab my high flying newsletter and just say hello,
David Ralph [57:38]
Natalie, thank you so much for spending time with us today join up dots I’m so disappointed it’s it’s finished. Please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe the only way to build our futures is by connecting our pasts. Natalie Sisson, thank you so much.
Natalie Sisson [57:53]
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