Richard Lynch Band Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Richard Lynch
Richard Lynch from the Richard Lynch Band is our guest today on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots Business Coaching podcast interview.
Richard Lynch is a a man who is moving forward into his future by keeping true to his past.
Based in Waynesville Ohio, he is an American Country music artist, who has released a long list of chart topping hits in the world of traditional country music, and delights audiences across America with his brand of infectious honest to god country.
And its with little surprise that he is travelling the highways and byways, as this is a passion that has been with him since the early days.
How Did The Dots Join Up For Richard?
As he says “I knew that music was what I wanted to do from an early age. We just were country people who loved country life. I remember in study hall, I would get out my guitar and we’d go pick and sing”
But what makes this guy even more interesting, is he does all this whilst still being a farmer and barn designer/builder by trade.
Yes he manages to to makes an honest, blue collar living at the same time as playing over 100 events/shows each year, all over the country.
How he fits in the two I have no idea, but we will find out during the show.
He credits much of that philosophy to the work ethic and morals that were instilled in him by his parents.
Where Did He Get His Country Music Belief?
He says “I grew up on a 110 acre farm. We always had plenty of livestock, horses, and cattle – plenty of chores and things to do.
We didn’t have a whole lot of money growing up, but we never went hungry or had any wants. I know what it’s like to go through hard times, but by the same token, I wouldn’t trade the way I was raised for nothing. It made me decide and realize that in life, you get what you put into it.”
Along with his band he is certainly doing just that all over America. with music as he says that is “Country, the way country music was meant to be”
So with a foot firmly planted in the worlds of Hank Williams, Hank Snow, and the Ryman Theatre legends, what does he think of the new style of country music being released today?
And if he could go back in time and record with anyone, who would he choose?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots, with the one and only Mr Richard Lynch
Richard Lynch Band Show Highlights
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Richard Lynch such as:
How he recalls getting up on the stage at the eight years old with his Father Woody Lynch and singing “A Tiger By The Tail”. He knew in that moment that his future was sett.
How he remembers so many times hearing “No”, in his life.
The rejections had an amazing effect on both Richard and his wife to prove the world that they were wrong.
Why we all have to go on a journey where you go through people that don’t work, and find people that do. None of us will get our perfect team straight away, but little by little you prune and remove until your world gets just as you want it.
And lastly….
How he couldn’t quite believe in himself and his talent. It took the vision of his wife to pull the Richard Lynch band together.
Showing once again, that we all need the help of others to create our futures.
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Full Transcription Of Richard Lynch Band
Intro [0:10]
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:36]
Yes, hello there. Good morning, everybody across the world. Good morning to you all, wherever you are, whatever you’re doing, whoever you’re doing it with. Thank you for being here with Join Up Dots. And we’ve got a great show today because what what Join Up Dots is all about. It’s about knowing that by hook by crook by overcoming your obstacles, you can still get to the end product. You can create the life you want. And I’ll be open with you and honest this show is we normally record an edit live, we’re going to be doing things slightly different from this. You won’t notice it at the end product, but our systems not working like it should do. But this is emphasises what the show is all about that you can basically think around a problem. And you can come out with something remarkable at the end, as today’s guest is because he’s a man who I’ve wanted to have on the show for a long time because he is moving forward into his future by keeping true to his past based in Waynesville, Ohio. He’s an American country music artist who has released a long list of chart topping hits in the world’s traditional country music and delights audiences across America with these brand of infectious honest to god country. And it’s with little surprise that he’s travelling the highways and byways as this is a passion that has been with him since the early days. As he says, I knew that music was what I wanted to do from an early age we were country, people who love country live. I remember in study hall, I would get out my guitar and we’d go pick and stuff But what makes this guy even more interesting is he does all this while still being a farmer and bond designer and builder by trade. Yes, he manages to make an honest blue collar living at the same time as playing over 100 events and shows each year all over the country. How he fits the two in I have no idea but we’ll find out during the show. Now he credits much of that philosophy to the work ethic and moles that were instilled in him by his parents. He says, I grew up on 110 acre farm. We also always had plenty of livestock, horses and cattle, plenty of chores and things to do. We didn’t have a whole lot of money growing up, but we never went hungry or had any once. I know what it’s like to go through hard times. But by the same token, I wouldn’t trade the way I was raised for nothing. It made me decide and realise but in life, you get what you put into it. And now along with his band, he’s certainly doing just that all over America with music as he says that his country the way country music was meant to be so with a foot firmly planted in the words of Hank Williams, Hank snow and the Ryman fair legends. What does he think of the new style of country music being released today? And if you could go back in time and record with anyone, who would he choose? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show, the start joining up starts with the one and only Mr. Richard Lynch.
Richard Lynch [3:15]
Good morning everybody and thank you for having me on.
David Ralph [3:17]
Good morning to you Richard. How are you sir?
Richard Lynch [3:20]
Oh, I am so good. It’s raining here in Waynesville, but that’s okay. It’s a beautiful day for great country music anywhere.
David Ralph [3:27]
I do love people who aren’t involved in country because I have a kind of positive I don’t know lyrical way of talking about certainly I come from London, and they don’t in London did he is that instil due to this everybody walk around saying the kind of words that you’ve just said
Richard Lynch [3:45]
well Yeah, kinda we all kind of like we’re all have an Eastern Kentucky influence up here and you know, there’s a lot of influences around our area. But though the, the southern type of type of draw the southern type of talking the good country Way of Life is pretty fluid right around here.
David Ralph [4:03]
And what what is country life? Obviously, it’s it’s having a lot of countryside around you, but what is the sort of ethos of country living?
Richard Lynch [4:12]
Well, I mentioned earlier I was raised on a farm growing up. And we know I’m no stranger to hard work, you know, taking care of the horses taking care of the hay farm, baling hay all the time. And so, you know, when you get to live a little contrary way of life that, you know, I’m so fortunate to have and I realised I’m fortunate to have this. And then you take that way of life and you put it into the country music and then you put it into a situation where you can meet these people around the country and around the world actually, and to be in a situation where you talk to people and, and you can be influencing on them. It’s great to be a situation where I’m finally sharing my way of life with my music.
David Ralph [4:54]
And you say it’s finally do you feel that it’s been a long journey to where you are now.
Richard Lynch [4:59]
Oh, Lately I, I did quite a few interviews, and I did a review here a few weeks ago and Young lady, she says, Wow, we love your music. And we see that you’re doing well all over the country. And you’re doing this and all I hear is your name lately. And I said, and then she says, Well, I think you’re an overnight success. And then I paused for a second and I said, Yep, 35 year overnight success. And then
David Ralph [5:24]
is the 35 years is it part of the journey? Do you need to have that to really create a body of work that connects with people because what what interests me is country music, I suppose in the United Kingdom, country, music has never been as popular as it isn’t in America. Certainly. My dad grew up listening to it all the time. And so I had to grow up listening to it. So I know a lot of the sort of the greats, but generally, you don’t hear a lot of country music on the radio. So do you actually have to go through that journey to really create music that resonates or can some kid 19 just start 20 knees guitar and sing words do you need to have lived it to be out to really sing it is what I’m supposedly saying?
Richard Lynch [6:07]
Well, I think there’s no question about that. You, you have to live it, you have to understand it, you have to appreciate it. It’s like, it’s like our country, if you don’t have an appreciation for our founders, your chances are you’re not going to have an appreciation for the folks that brought the country music to you as a as a child for me. So I absolutely love our roots of our music. I love the fact that we can, we can play our music and and we’re seeing such an influx of all ages, you know, take an interest and take a genuine interest into the traditional country music that we’re replaying these days. It’s heartwarming, to see people standing there and, and and especially younger folks that they’ll say Wow, we were not familiar with this year now. We really like what you’re doing. Where can we get this? And I hear that often. We did a show in Minnesota last weekend and a 12 year old son was in the show. And a gentleman and his 12 year old son, I’m sorry. And he was just absolutely mesmerised and he, he talked way above his years, you know, he thanked me for playing the hag and I’m thinking about what 12 year old kid will do the hag is so I was I was blown away. I loved it.
David Ralph [7:24]
No, I I grew up as I say my dad was very into it. So I had to listen to a lot of Jim Reeves. Hank Williams and Hank snow and when I was growing up, it was the last music I wanted to hear now I’m sort of adult myself. I’ve got a nostalgia to it. Not so much Jim Reeves that was just boring stuff. But the the other the other stuff there is a connection to my past. But if it comes on the radio, which he does, very rarely, I actually will stop and listen to it and turn it up because it makes me feel grounded somehow, which I suppose is. Once again the message behind country, isn’t it? It’s a grounding to your the generations that have gone before is it it’s grounding to your growing up it’s it connects like no other musical record
Richard Lynch [8:10]
well that’s very well said you know if you if you have an appreciation for for whatever you do in my passion in your life there’s someone had to do it before you to give you the opportunity now to have you appreciate it so I very much appreciate the older the older Music The older artists and it has given me a such a a sense of accomplishment when I can be sitting there and playing you know, the traditional Sound of Music even though it’s brand new music. I’m keeping that traditional sounding music alive and it’s it’s gratifying for me. I see my dad’s face and because that’s who influenced me more than anything. My dad Mr. Woody Lynch was an incredible singer entertainer. And I knew at a young age that that’s something that I wanted to do just because I got to go see him do it. And I see share the stage with a lot of the greats back at my younger age, you know, people like Porter Wagner and Bobby bear and Glen Campbell. And I knew at a very young age that there is something here for me and my dad, my dad gracefully gave me the stage one. So when I turned the ripe old age of eight years old, so I got to join him and singing a song. At that time I was bit by the Country Music bug, there was no way around the fact that I was ever going to do anything else. I knew I had to do this music thing.
David Ralph [9:30]
And then what was the song Can you still remember it?
Richard Lynch [9:33]
I surely can. It was an old buck old song called. I’ve got a tiger by the tail.
David Ralph [9:39]
Give us a little bit a little bit of the tiger by the tail.
Richard Lynch [9:43]
I got a tiger by the tail. It’s plenty to see.
Oh, won’t be much when you get through with me. I’m losing weight and turning mighty pale. Looks like I’ve got a tiger by the tail. Who are well damn brilliant because
David Ralph [10:02]
I was listening to your stuff the other day and you did a very interesting song. And it was something and I’m paraphrasing now so you’re gonna cringe from your end, but it was something like my wife is so ugly I’d rather sleep with my dog or something like that.
Richard Lynch [10:17]
Well, that’s pretty close. But
the more I’m around some people the more I like my dog
David Ralph [10:26]
so I was almost on and it was it was an amusing little ditty. Do you throw those kind of songs into your mix? Do you have a setlist but is standard or do you change it every night? How do you tailor what your music is for the audience?
Richard Lynch [10:42]
Well, I’m telling you this is something that’s probably you’re never going to hear from another artist. I refuse to use a song list. My band are we are we’re so tight together and we played so many shows together that I can make mention just a few words and they know that Exactly what song I’m going to do. You know, to me to be in a situation where you’re constantly repetitive and constantly doing things, doesn’t make a great show because I want it to be spontaneous. And I want to feel the crowd, I want to read the crowd. I want that crowd to know that they was at me at a show at three o’clock, they’re going to see a different show at seven o’clock. So to me, I have it’s a centred great country songs that I do, and I can pull out from the reservoir of older country songs. I just like for things to be spontaneous and me to feel that crowd as much as possible.
David Ralph [11:39]
So does the crowd shout out, Mr. Lynch, Mr. Lynch, do this song and you just go straight into it?
Richard Lynch [11:46]
Well, that happens from time to time. We have been known to, you know, just play whatever the crowd asks for. But, you know, a lot of times you know, we’re in a different city that we’ve never been before and some kind of sense Sometimes people aren’t necessarily that familiar with my music. And so, you know, I want to make sure I connect with the people that aren’t familiar with me. And so, when I’m in that situation, I want to make sure that I deliver a song that everybody in that house is going to know they’re gonna, they’re gonna know, Conway Twitty song, they’re going to know, an old George Strait song, and I want to make sure I deliver that song that they’re so familiar with, and then be able to give them one of my songs. And they can compare and be able to, you know, hear the difference or hear the similarities in the music that they already love.
David Ralph [12:36]
So what we’re talking about here, generally on Join Up Dots, we will have businessmen and entrepreneurs. And what we’re talking about here connects beautifully with all the rest of the shows because you have found the thing that you really love doing because of that you’re willing to put the effort in to become better and better, but ultimately, it comes back to providing what your customer wants, providing huge value. Have you and even if it’s not something that you particularly want, if your audience wants it, you’re going to deliver it.
Richard Lynch [13:06]
Absolutely. I want to make sure that the audiences are left with a feeling that they just got entertained. And they absolutely absolutely entertained by traditional country music. And the fact that there’s a lot of different places and a lot of different artists out there they can go see, when they come see me, I’m so appreciative. It means so much to me. And I don’t care I’ll stand in line, however long they want me to. It’s my objective after every show to shake every hand and they want to hug around their neck. Just to say I got to meet these people and connect with these people. It’s such an important thing for me, my my dad told me at a young age, you know, make sure that people feel like they they are personal with you make sure they know you, even if they know you or they don’t make sure they feel like they get to know you and those words of wisdom have always stuck with me and I really enjoy the fact that I can do that and Share my music and make that connection with my fans.
David Ralph [14:03]
And what you’ve done which is quite remarkable. I haven’t seen other people do this but maybe people do this all across America it’s just not a UK thing is you’ve actually built your own theatre your own sort of country bomb in you’re doing a quoting back garden it’s probably 200 acres of back garden. But um farm That’s what I’m talking about is a farm is not back garden, and you invite people into your own venue to come to see now was that part of the master plan? Was that something that you did at the beginning and now you travel further afield? How did that come about?
Richard Lynch [14:36]
Well, I kind of said we mentioned earlier that I was raised on a farm and I knew that there was that general connection with the you know, the music so what I did as, as we purchased our farm here in 2003, I’ve had it now for about 13 years, I’ve been kind of constantly building the music thing and and seeing that there’s a need for a, you know, a good venue to host something new to wear family people, youngsters, people of all ages can kind of come and be in a country atmosphere and feel like they can let their hair down have a good time, my wife decided that we would go ahead and build this barn, and we can seek comfortably 350 people in our barn. And it’s neat to be, you know, right here in our own farm and to have folks come from all over the place, and to share our music to share our way of life. And to see that there is something genuine about what we’re doing. When I say genuine I I kind of take it for granted you know that I’m real country music and then I just share my real country way of life with my country music. So when they come here to the farm, they can see a hay field. They can see the horses and the donkeys they can see a couple of waggons a hay in the barn and then you know, then they can walk over to the main of aren’t the main barn and see, you know, the big stage you put in there and they can walk around the porch. I mean, it’s just Something that’s absolutely amazing the the feel the feel for the farm and the feel for the music is truly genuine and people get a sense of feeling that genuine feel when they leave here
David Ralph [16:10]
which is what we were talking about at the beginning it’s that connection again isn’t it is that connection to something honest and with integrity you know which I think country has not so much as pop music pop music is a lot about you know, pulling pulling a girl having sex and whatever but you don’t get a lot of that in country music you
Richard Lynch [16:30]
know, you know country music is is from the heart. You with country music, you get a genuine feeling you get a sense of you know, whatever that artist or that writer was feeling at that time. You know, country music is good times at sad times. Country Music is is is something that you know, you you experience and then when you hear that song for me anyhow, it’s like that guy wrote that song for me. How did he know what that was? feeling quite bad. I mean, it’s genuine from the heart. Someone told me that a great country song was really simple, three chords and the truth. So there’s a lot of truth to that.
David Ralph [17:12]
That’s, that’s a metaphor for life, though, isn’t it really, you know, if you keep things simple, and you once again you provide value, but from the heart value, that’s how business is built. That’s how empires are built.
Richard Lynch [17:25]
You, you form a trust you form a situation where you can expect what you’re going to get you can kind of you kind of kind of feel like what you’re going to get is genuine and and you know, then you’re entertained if something that really connects with your life. You know, we might leave today and after this interview, and I might have a song inspire me and you know, I got to play in Ireland last year. And when I hear your voice, I’m back in Ireland again, because those people absolutely love traditional country music and we get calls response often to go back over, and they happen here in the near future, but we absolutely love this opportunity. And, you know, when I write a song or whatever I like to write about different things that I had experienced, and share with the people that you know that connect with me in life.
David Ralph [18:18]
Well, let’s play the words of Jim Carrey. And then we will delve more into this conversation.
Unknown Speaker [18:24]
This is Jim, my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [18:52]
So powerful words when you hear those from from Jim Carrey, are they ones that have resonance for yourself, Richard
Richard Lynch [19:00]
Oh, absolutely, you know, I touched a little bit on a fact earlier how I know I’m, I’m fortunate to be in a situation that I’m at, I knew that the country music thing was something I had to do also have a sense of responsibility. I’ve, you know, always worked and had a day job and try to put the music where I could, but I always had this drive in this direction that I’m going to do this cookie music thing. And so I knew that if, if I stayed focused and paid my bills and and did what I what I could do, to make sure that I had a broader horizon. I’ll be okay. And so you know, the words he spoke is so resonating to me because I want to just be, you know, that person that takes the chance and do what I love. And there’s anybody out there that’s questioning that right now. They can absolutely just fall back on our honour true beliefs and say, I’m going to make this happen I’m going to do two takes to make this happen.
David Ralph [19:59]
And what Again, you don’t need a huge amount. And more often than not, you’ve got those personal skills. It’s just that inner belief that you can take it and convert it into something, you know, I earn an income now, by talking basically. And so many people sit in offices around the world and they they talk, so many people can pick up a guitar and they can, you know, sing and they can play. It’s taking that talent, that skill that you’ve got, and just wanting to do it every single day until you pass the other members of the crowd and you start finding the emptiness and that’s when you’re finding your true path, isn’t it?
Richard Lynch [20:38]
Oh, that’s very well said. Just Just stay with true to what you love. Keep doing what you do. You know, I’ve heard a lot of nose and you can’t do this and in life, and actually believe in love. It’s made me realise that by hearing them has made me and my wife very, very direct were okay, we’ll show you what we can’t do. So it’s So that’s all part of the scheme here no once in a while probably is a good thing.
David Ralph [21:05]
And and your wife lovely Mrs. Lynch is she you know she a great believer in what you do. Was she always a believer or did you meet up with her and then start getting out the guitar to to woo her? Was it your big seduction piece? Did you? Did you play out of romantic songs on the balcony?
Richard Lynch [21:24]
Well, our our relationship is kind of funny, we, we’ve known each other for over 30 years, and she would come out to the clubs and stuff in the different places I was playing music. And, you know, we’re both we both have previous marriages and never had the opportunity to, you know, to really talk much other than just be friends. So she went through a divorce and I went through divorce pretty close to the same time and sure enough, she came out where I was playing one night and I kind of hit it all. Often. So we were friends dear friends long. Before we ever became, you know, involved, yeah, and the fact that we could be the fact that we could be friends and the fact that we could share this true love for the music, she’s always loved the music was a was a special kind of bond for me. And, you know, we’re doing our music and you know, right and saying and, and one day she told me, she says, you know, we got to get you in the studio and record some magic years, you know, we’ve got to do this year and people need to hear who and know who you are. I said, Are you sure you want to do this? So we did this. And the rest is history. We have got the so fortunate. And I just told her, I said, Now if we’re going to do this music thing, and we’re going to be playing in Dallas or Detroit or wherever we’re going to be at, you’re going with me, this ain’t going to be something that I’m going to do by myself. And so everywhere we go, I drag her along with me and we’re quite a team. I wouldn’t trade it for the world. She is my best friend. She’s my My mentor she keeps me focused and waiting for her I wouldn’t even be having this conversation with you. She believed in me so much. And it’s amazing what a person of direction and fortitude can do for a person.
David Ralph [23:15]
Absolutely, you don’t need a lot Do you It’s so easy to find the people that will knock you down. But as long as you you push those away and just keep a core group of people that support you, you can change the world. You know, if you look at the stories of The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, everyone, they’ve had dark times and they found by supporting each other to just make them go one more time. It is fascinating to me but although your shoots talented, and you’re great on stage, and that bond you’ve got I’ve because you’ve got a lovely video, but for the listeners out there, go over to the video that we’ve got on the website and you’ll see a day in the life of Richard and he he sings he songs in his trailer and he gets up now when they that bar There was an atmosphere in that barn that I thought, I want to go there. I really want to go there, it came out of the screen. Now you always had that in you. Do you find it’s amazing, but you can’t see it yourself. You can’t see but you’ve got something that’s just waiting to be watered, and grow into something remarkable. You need your special lady to say, Come on, get yourself onto tape and get it out to the world.
Richard Lynch [24:26]
Well, I I have to admit it. You know, I just took it for granted that that’s something that I always would do. But you know, after so long, you realise Oh, you know, I’m I’ve been beating my brains out and doing this thing for many, many years. And I haven’t got anywhere. It took someone to believe in me more than I believed myself. And now that we’re doing it and now that we’re succeeding and having these wonderful conversations and playing music around the country and around the world, I see what my wife Donna and other people have seen in in in me in the music. And don’t think for one second that I don’t appreciate it. Because when I get to do something that I enjoy and I get to be around people that that appreciate what we do, there is not a better feeling I’ve ever experienced really not much for you know, drinking or the other activities that some folks get into. It’s not really my thing. But when I play my country music gets an absolute high for me. And to be in a situation where I can deliver the country music and feed off of that well responding crowd. There’s not a better thing in life for me to do. And I can’t imagine doing it without my best friend, my wife, Miss Donna.
David Ralph [25:35]
Oh, absolutely. Now what I’m going to do, I’m going to play some of your your songs I’ve been thinking Which one should I play, so I’m going to play she’s got me drinking again, which is the song but literally for about a week at two o’clock in the morning. It’s just been going through my head, so we won’t play the entire song. But bass listeners is Richard Lynch and Billy Yates she got me drinking again and this this have ruined your sleep for mumps. You’ll be singing this here we go
Richard Lynch [26:15]
great. She went away said she found somebody new
Unknown Speaker [26:21]
hard with in a car didn’t know
Unknown Speaker [26:26]
so I got
Richard Lynch [26:33]
my buddy Bill said there’s no time to kill. She got me dragon again.
Unknown Speaker [26:44]
dirty jokes
Unknown Speaker [26:51]
it used to be
David Ralph [27:02]
Yeah, she’s got me drinking again. Now how can you not think that is a catchy song? That’s gonna be number one across the world, isn’t it Richard?
Richard Lynch [27:11]
Well, we had a we had a church stopping chart topping initial song with that out of Europe. I was so happy that Billy he joined me. Billy wrote the song. And we, we decided that we wanted to, you know, do a duet with Billy and that song is so much fun to play. When you when you play it live and you see people’s feet stomping and their hands and clapping and they’re, they’re singing along with it. What a What a great feeling. And I mentioned a little bit earlier about the, in this conversation that we have a couple charts that were on in Europe and that song actually debuted at number one in Europe, with some of the charts over their ability is huge. A huge entertainer artists in in Europe over there. So anything below his name’s honour is going to get a major amount of attention. So by being on the same record as as Billy in that having that opportunity has opened up a lot of doors over there, and people get to see and hear what Richard Lynch loves to do. And so just another opportunity to share that good country music.
David Ralph [28:24]
And do you have to open a lot of doors? Or do you just have to open the right doors? I’m always interested in this. It seems that when life is too hard, it means you’re basically pushing against the either the wrong doors or closed doors and you literally have to walk along the wall and then find one that’s open and just walk through the gap. Have you seen that in your own career, but when things have moved on at a pace for you, it almost seems effortless?
Richard Lynch [28:50]
It is you know, we have don’t like no, no, make no mistake. We have gone through some folks that, you know weren’t right for us and it’s taken us a couple of different times to get the correct personnel. You know, this this music thing that we’re doing as a team or we have a wonderful media team, we have a wonderful management team, we have a wonderful team that looks out for us and this you know, strive and struggle, but we didn’t always have that. So you go through people that don’t work and you go through people that do work, and you you know, you’re very appreciative when you find that folks that that match with you and appreciate what you do. I got and Randy hayford from playing a music, very well known been in the music business for many, many years, has helped us immensely. You talk about opening doors and creating opportunities. But it all boils down to how much belief in me my wife had so she finds folks that that keeps us on the right direction. She finds folks that, you know, share our direction. And when you have that good team and that hardworking team that believe and know what you’re doing All of a sudden the struggle is taken out of it and you find that people are real receptive to that you do what you want to do and they want you to do what you want to do
David Ralph [30:11]
so how do we all get a Mrs Lynch in our life this is what I think we need we need to buckle her we need to make bendy Mrs. Lynch’s that we can have in the back of everyone’s car. How do we get what she’s got?
Richard Lynch [30:24]
Well, for me, I had to experience some things that weren’t exactly great for me and then I you know, you could have a Mrs. Lynch everybody can but you got to make sure you know, you had a Mrs. Lynch. For me, I had to understand that there was a lot of folks out there that will not necessarily look out for your best interest. And when you see someone it’s up to you to realise, hey, this this lady or this gentleman in my life here has, has my genuine best interest in hand and so you got to be smart enough and lucky enough to realise that for you. There’s a lot of folks out there that Genuine, it will help people. But the artist needs to acknowledge that and be, you know, quite aware of what the what’s laying in front of them right there because I realised now I have for a while that she’s special, and I couldn’t do this without her.
David Ralph [31:17]
But what’s interesting about her is the fact that she understands you now so many people in life will have the support of their other heart who kind of supports the person but they don’t really get why that person wants to do this thing. Why does this person want to be traipsing around America? What does this person want to be doing this year? My wife and I’ve mentioned this so many times, she is such a support for me. But she doesn’t get it. She doesn’t get why I wouldn’t want to just go to a corporate gig, sit at a desk, have my weekends, get my salary, and just live the kind of normal life why I want to, you know, toughen it up a bit to make something remarkable because that’s just not enough. Her now that’s fortunate place to be isn’t it but you’ve got a powerhouse team together but not only loves your work but actually understands why you’re doing it.
Richard Lynch [32:11]
You know, that’s very well said she’s she has
she has a belief in me and they love for what what for me and what what I do, and I think I can say it for her. She would want me to broaden my horizons and share you know, the talent that I have with everybody out there. And you know, she sees cutting music go a direction that’s not necessarily country and she knows that I am true country music and the country fans that are looking for that. That genuine feel that genuine sense of real country music, she sees it. And she knows there’s a lot of folks that like to have that. And so she has put me in a position to where I can. I can be true I can be myself because you know you You can pretend to be something you’re not and eventually, your true colours come out anyhow. And so she’s been an absolute wonder for me to be able to stay true to what I love and let the people looking for that music. Find me and me get out there and meet them. So, one for her. I’d be in trouble.
David Ralph [33:17]
She’s Yoko Ono that she I don’t know if that’s a compliment or not. I don’t know. I just leave it hanging there. So when you look at how musics going I was fascinated. But you mentioned a moment ago, but country music is going in a direction that isn’t actually country music. What did you mean by that?
Richard Lynch [33:37]
Well, you know, when you refuse to have respect for your boundaries, we talked about that kind of just briefly. Yeah, it seems to me like there’s not a whole lot of respect in today’s country music for for the steel guitar and for the fiddle, and for some four part harmony. And for some lyric content that talks other than Drinking beer and getting drunk on a red dirt road. It seems like that seems to be the really the only topic and the back of a pickup truck. I guess that’s all well and good. But you know you’re leaning more towards the you know, the funk the rock and roll the the other genres that are not true to a traditional country music, I kind of I get offended really, when I hear so called country music that has nothing similar to country music. I know I shouldn’t be that way. But it really bothers me because I know there’s millions of people that don’t want to listen to that. And so if that particular genre has no respect and no appreciation for the roots of where it came from, to me, it’s not it’s lost its appeal and I want to stay true to what I came from.
Unknown Speaker [34:49]
But it
David Ralph [34:50]
isn’t a place for everything. There’s so many people on the planet that some people aren’t gonna you know, for example, I’m a great believer in what my dad used to listen to now. I’ve got a respect for it. I understand the musicality, but there’s certain of those artists like Jim Reed, for example, he just used to sing about water and, and strange, strange, old sort of dreary songs. I don’t have a connection to that. But it somebody will do, and I’m sure you will go, Oh, you’re finna Stein, he’s the greatest. He’s the greatest doesn’t it doesn’t matter what the music is, as long as somebody responds to it.
Richard Lynch [35:30]
Well, you know, there’s, there’s probably some truth to that. But if you don’t have a sense of I keep going back to the sense of roots. You know, you know, there’s always been rock and roll, not always, you know, but there’s other genres out there, that that has kind of taken over the country music scene, you know, they can still have their rock and roll and don’t get me wrong. I like rock and roll. I like Southern rock. I like I played the hall. He talks. I’ve done all that and you can’t get away to play in just country music if you’re going to play those venues. So yeah, I love all that music. But, you know, if you’re a country music artist, you don’t necessarily our country music lover, I should say. You don’t necessarily have to be catering to the hip hop world, they’re still going to have that hip hop music out there. They can go listen to Yeah, so they, they have actually a donated a lot of the country music fans, because if they wanted to listen to the hip hop or the other genres out there, they could have now the country music scene has been so altered, that they there’s a lot a lot of folks out there that didn’t have a connection with today’s radio. So they’re looking for traditional artists and other shows, to where they can actually feel like I have found the place where I want to be entertained. So cut you into to me today has been altered beyond beyond where people really love country music can even connect with
David Ralph [36:56]
is I’ve been to Nashville a few times and I’ve had a capital event drunken nights in Tutsis orchids lounge which I talked about on the show. And yeah, I couldn’t drive for three days after a night in that place I had to keep away from the car. And there was when I went to the Ryman theatre you could sense the history. You could sense the nostalgia, you could sense. It was in the woodwork. And then I went to the grand old Opry and it was just an a theatre really, and I just didn’t see why I had to move to that position. Because it’s like everything, isn’t it? It has to have the heart. And I think what you’re talking about is is not the musicality. It’s the heart that’s missing. But, hey, they’re creating something new. And everything is something new, isn’t it? That’s what survival of the fittest is. It just means that things will die out, things will come strong, and some things will just stay forever. And I think what will stay forever is the stuff that comes from the heart that you’re talking about. The gospel music, the the record Low and the contrary, I think what you’re saying is absolutely right. But I also think there’s a place for everything. He’s just whether you want to choose to go to that place or not.
Richard Lynch [38:08]
Well, today’s Curtin music I kind of summed it up as this. It’s almost like it’s disposable music. You hear a song on the radio, and two weeks later, it’s not playing anymore because somebody else has played this. I wrote a song that has a similar sound. And it’s like, Huh, well, and the week and a half or two weeks from now, I’m not going to know who this guy is again. But I guarantee you, traditional, heartfelt country, music will be endless. It’ll be forever. And 50 years from now, people are still going to know who Johnny Cash is. People are still going Oh, no. Who come? Wait, what is Elvis Presley? George Jones. Do you think in 50 years from now that these artists that they’re playing today they’ll have any clue who these people are? No, because they aren’t real. They aren’t sincere. They aren’t genuine and it didn’t come from the heart. So This, today’s music is what I call this disposable music and don’t laugh, it don’t resonate. And to me it can’t last much longer.
David Ralph [39:08]
But it’s sort of genuine in their own position, aren’t they? They This is what I’m trying to sort of connect with. They are only doing what that environment that they’re in, is telling them to do. If you went back in, you know, 5060 years ago, when Elvis first went into some studios, he was basically doing, what his surroundings were doing, you know, he’d been playing country bears and stuff. And it was a similar kind of, you know, guitar, bass and a drum kind of music. He was only doing that until he found his own thing. And that’s where the greatness comes. You’ve got to start with basically replicating what’s around you, I would have thought until you finally get your understanding of what you’re bringing to the world when you think,
Richard Lynch [39:53]
oh, that’s very well put, and I don’t want to sound like I’m putting it down. I just want to let people know that. There’s an Alternative out there, if you’re looking for real traditional country music, something you can connect with something that you’re familiar with something that can, you know, make your day. Don’t be let down because people like you and other folks out there that have this, these wonderful shows people are finding it, they’re looking for they’re connecting with it. And, you know, just just keep on doing what you’re doing. Because if it wasn’t for folks like you guys who gave us our chance to have our music being played out there, these folks who feel lost in the country music world today wouldn’t have an opportunity. So thank you very much. And let’s let us know that you’re going to promote what we’re doing. Absolutely. He’s going to
David Ralph [40:37]
be out there forever. Now. Just before we play the words of Steve Jobs, who created the whole theme of the show? In the introduction, I asked a question if you could go back in time and record with anyone who would you choose? Who would you choose out of all the country, greats to duet with or stand up on stage with and go again?
Richard Lynch [40:57]
Well, I have to I have to To say that there’s a gentleman out there that influenced me from a very young age, and that there was no other there is no other choice to me to be on the same stage or to be on the same recording, as Conway Twitty would be an absolute thrill for me commonly had a sense of passion, every song, every word in his song, he, you could feel it in his voice, you could feel it in his delivery, and to be anywhere around him would be an absolute thrill for me.
David Ralph [41:31]
I think it’d be a thrill for my dad as well. That’s one of these ones that he likes. And boxcar Willie, do you remember boxcar Willie, is he is he
Unknown Speaker [41:39]
remember? willing?
David Ralph [41:42]
Yeah, he used to play that all the time as well. Any any I’m getting nostalgic. That’s what that’s what country is about is taking me back to my roots. So these are the words that Steve Jobs said back in 2005. They’re hugely powerful. So let’s hear them again. Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs [41:56]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward. When I was in college, but it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [42:32]
So words that never lose their power for me. How do they make you feel when you actually listen and connect them with your own life?
Richard Lynch [42:40]
Well, to be in a situation situation now to where I can look back and see all the things that that we’ve done and accomplished. It’s made me realise that you have to stay focused. I know I made a tonne of mistakes and did things that I probably shouldn’t have done and and been you know Disappointed or whatever. But ultimately, I go back to my wife, Donna, she kept me focused and kept me grounded. And I can learn from those mistakes and learn from those things that we did years ago. And our our direction now is absolutely perfectly clear. We know we had to go through some times where you were unsure to appreciate the times where you are sure. And Steve Jobs did a wonderful job of summing up that feeling.
David Ralph [43:27]
So if you look back over your whole life, Richard, what would be your big dot that really was when the clouds opened, the sun came out on you and you thought, yeah, this is it. This is when it’s all going to come together for me, I know where I need to go.
Richard Lynch [43:43]
Well, when I was lucky enough to meet my wife, and when I was lucky enough for her to to share her direction and her sense of, hey, let’s do this year, I knew that was at that point, that everything was going to be fine. We’re going to make this happen. So I can Actually about 11 years ago when we got together.
David Ralph [44:03]
You’re an old softie at Han. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker [44:08]
Pretty much.
David Ralph [44:10]
Did you say these romantic things all the time? Or is it only on the microphone?
Richard Lynch [44:16]
You know, I, I try to be genuine all the time. And she, she’ll she really not necessarily that good. I’m taking compliments. So sometimes I gotta say, Hey, listen, I’m complimenting you. And then she’ll say, Okay, thank you. Well,
David Ralph [44:30]
I’ll tell you what, you need to write a new song. Yeah, even better looking than my dog. I think that’s what you need to do. Right and my a new one and sing it to her every morning.
Richard Lynch [44:40]
I know that would get me some brownie points. I’m sure that
David Ralph [44:44]
well, this is the bit at the end of the show, when we’re going to send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the young Richard, what age would you choose and what advice would you give? Well, we’re gonna find out because I’m going to play the theme tune and when it fades, you’re This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [45:10]
With the best bit of the show.
Richard Lynch [45:26]
Well, if I could go back in time, I had to go back to my earliest roots and find myself that I could tell myself that I could be whatever I wanted to be, you know, we grew up hard and we had a lot of work to do and, and sometimes as a youngster, you don’t necessarily understand or what your what your life ahead of you will be because you know, you’ve been in that environment or, you know, for me, I worked hard and we had a lot of chores. So, I realised, now that if I could go back and say, Hey, Richard, in high school, you’re going to be just fine because you know all kids in school or influence with by other people or they’re for different folks that kind of creep into your life. Just stay true to what you believe. Stay true to how you were, how you’re going to pursue your way in life. And don’t be influenced by folks that don’t necessarily have your best interests. And so I would say right around the age of 16, or 18 years old, I go back and get myself reacquainted. Okay, you’re gonna be fine, buddy.
David Ralph [46:26]
And that’s the truth, isn’t it? We are always going to be fine. As long as you realise that it’s down to you, as long as you realise that we’re here to create our own destinies.
Richard Lynch [46:37]
No, that’s very well said, you know, as long as you you know, stay true to what your responsibilities are. If you’ve got a family, they come first if you’ve got a focus and a direction or a business, make sure you you water that make sure you fertilise that make sure you take care of that because if you don’t work it, it’s not we’ll never it’s never going to bloom. It’s never going to blossom. It’s never going to have the opportunity to be That ultimate shining destination that you’re looking for. So you got to build it, you got to work at it, you got to make sure you stay focused. Absolutely. So
David Ralph [47:11]
what’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you, your music and your talent?
Richard Lynch [47:18]
Well, if you go to Richard Lynch band.com, you can see there’s a multitude of social media things there, they got all the all the places where you can purchase our music, or you can see we’re all we’re all our events all around the country. Just go to Richard Lynch band, and calm. And that will lead you to all the other different social places that you can see how to find out about us. And, you know, for the folks that are out there listening, I just want to say thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to to sing and play and do what I absolutely love to do. And if you’re hearing this out there and you’re somewhere close to where we’re going to be performing, I want you to walk up to me and say I heard you Want to hear you and I want to shake your hand hug your neck and get to know these wonderful folks out there.
David Ralph [48:04]
When I promise you one day, you’ll be singing in your band your look down, I’ll pull open my shirt, and it will just have the Join Up Dots logo and you’ll know it’s me. You’ll know it’s me and I have I have come to the home. There’s sort of Ohio, Ryman theatre
Richard Lynch [48:21]
sounds great. You’re always welcome.
David Ralph [48:23]
Well, thank you so much, Richard, for spending time with us today. joining up those dots. Please come back again, when you have more dots to join up, because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Richard Lynch, thank you so much.
Richard Lynch [48:39]
Thank you, folks.
David Ralph [48:42]
Richard Lynch and the Richard Lynch band. He is a man who as I said, we’re at the very beginning is connected to the past. And it’s not just about connecting to our own past. It’s about connecting to the past, that you know that they mean the past. That’s why it’s called the past. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants, no matter what we do in our life, we are following someone. But as long as you follow them and you bring out your own stuff, your own skill, your own super talent and do something unique or authentic, you really have got a great chance of creating the life that you want. That’s what we talked about on Join Up Dots. That’s what everyone is trying to do. And you the listener out there, you’ve got a better chance when anyone because you’ve listened to this show. Thank you so much for being a part of it. Thank you so much. Please connect with us. Send an email through to us. Tell us what you bought. Tell us if you don’t like it, and we’ll see if we can change things around. Give us some stories that we can bring on the show interesting guys. Anything This is your show is not just about us promoting it. It’s about you being a part of it. Thanks very much. Cheers. Bye bye.
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