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Introducing Rita Miller
Todays guest, joining us on the Join Up Dots free podcast interview, is Rita Miller.
She is a lady with a truly fascinating story for sure.
Unlike many of the guests on Join Up Dots, who have become successful by business, online marketing or just doing amazing stuff, our guest set out on path that was never intended to lead to success and fame.
In fact it has been a hard push to get her on the show today.
But it is a story that should be told, as from her beginnings in Malta being educated at the Convent of the Sacred Heart School, Rita Miller has thrived when her passion for helping people has been used to maximum effect.
How The Dots Joined Up For Rita
Training to be a nurse at Hull Royal Infirmary in the North of England her path seemed set.
But as we see time and time again, on Join Up Dots, something can occur which brings a persons life to the place that they can provide the most value to the world at the most unexpected times.
And that is the true definition of success.
And for our guest that was when a visit to Kagando Hospital which nestles in the beautiful hills of Uganda, 20km from the Congo Border.
She had found her home in one of the poorest countries on earth, providing support, love and care to the kind of people that have very little to offer back.
So what was it that made this remarkable lady, change direction and travel across he globe, to be with people that she had never met before?
And what makes Rita continue to perform such an all giving task day after day, in conditions and climate so different from where her life in medicine began?
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs, on todays free podcast with the one and only Rita Miller
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Rita Miller such as:
How the BBC tv programme “The Vicar Of Dibley” was the tipping point that changed her life and set her on a path to Africa!
How she feels that a good way of starting is to “Dream big and start small” and then take it from there!
How she loves the people of Uganda, and their simple life stimulates her in ways that she could never have dreamt possible back in the UK!
How she battles against the limited resources that she has at her disposal in the hospital in Africa, but wont give up trying to provide the care that the patients deserve!
If you would like to donate or support the amazing work that Rita Miller does then please visit Friends of Kagando Charity
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Audio Transcription Of Rita Miller Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello there. Good morning to you all. Good morning to everyone who is listening on the Join Up Dots bandwagon. I hope you’re okay and I hope you’re enjoying life because that’s what it’s all about. Let me introduce you to today’s guest because it is a kind of different Join Up Dots today. But it is truly a fascinating storey. And like many of the guests on Join Up Dots who have become successful by business online marketing, or just as opposed to doing amazing stuff how guess it out on a par but was never intended to lead to success and fame. impact has been a hard push to get on the show today. But it’s a storey that should be told us from her beginnings in water being educated at the convent of the Sacred Heart school. She has thrived when her passion for helping people has been used to maximum effect training to be a nurse at Whole Royal Infirmary in the north of England her pop seems set. But as we see time and time again on Join Up Dots something can occur which brings a person’s life to the place that they can provide the most value to the world at the most unexpected times. And that is a true definition of success. And for our guests that was when a visitor can dando hospital, which nestles in the beautiful hills of Uganda 20 kilometres from the Congo border, she had found a home in one of the poorest countries on Earth, providing support loving care, to the kind of people that had very little to offer back. So what was it that made this remarkable lady change direction and travel across the globe to be with people that she’d never met before? And what makes her continue to perform such an all giving task day after day in conditions climates, so different from where her life in medicine began? Well, let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start Join Up Dots, the one and only Rita Mila. How are you today? Rita?
Rita Miller [2:11]
I’m fine. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you for having me on this
David Ralph [2:16]
show. So I know that it’s the first time that you’ve ever been on a show like busy. Are you a big podcast fan? Have you been listening to our other shows?
Rita Miller [2:24]
I yes, I have I have done some investigation as you’ve done some investigation on me as you said. Yes. I’m really impressed. I’m impressed about the quality of your guests amazing guests. And I noticed today that you had Kathy on Kathy O’Dowd, I will listen to her with a cup of tea this afternoon. I just adore Kathy and to I also owe much to her. And it’s just lovely, what you what you’re doing and reaching out to so many people.
David Ralph [2:59]
Caffeine doubt. For those who haven’t heard that show, she went live on episode 88 on the 25th of July, and she was the first lady to get to the top of Everest from both sides. And the thing that I remember speaking to her Rita, and you know, it was a friend I only know from from my sort of Connexions with her now is it wasn’t the challenge of getting to the top, which must be amazing. Just as being, I can’t be any higher other than going into space here. But for her it was the process. It was the actual mechanics of doing it, which which I found fascinating, because I would have thought it was just about getting to the top and Woohoo. And that was it.
Rita Miller [3:39]
No, I haven’t heard the interview. And I had to snatch this morning. But I thought that I just want to sit quietly this afternoon. But I can understand that I can understand the process of of organising something, and then you’ve achieved it that you know, it is it is a good feeling to achieve works. And what do you do through the organisation you’ve set out to do whatever you’re setting out to do? And finally say, Job well done, you know?
David Ralph [4:12]
Yeah, you know, because there are so many people out there that when you sort of talk to them, they had these dreams, I had these aspirations, but they look at the obstacles before they even start and they will go Well, yeah, but I’ve got this to do. And I’ve got that to do. And you think well, really, you can’t get much harder than getting up to the top of the highest point on Earth, which could actually kill you doing it.
Rita Miller [4:37]
That’s fine. I, I started I started to dream big and start small, but in reality, and the dreams are not for me, it’s there for others. And I never look at the education. That’s it, I say, oops, no, you’ve got to be very careful when you’re dealing with with people, vulnerable people, and where I work, and there’s so much that he can do more harm than good. And that is always a focus in my mind. It’s a huge learning step, because you know that, you know, dealing with objects in dealing with human lives. And so what is in my mind? Yeah,
David Ralph [5:22]
does Does it mean that your day in the hospital in Uganda is different every single day? Or do you sort of get days when you go, Oh, it’s a Wednesday, I know what’s going to Wednesday’s going to be like, is it not like a sort of normal job that you can slip into a routine?
Rita Miller [5:38]
No, no routine whatsoever. In fact, you never start, you never know how your day is going to pan out. And I’ve always got plans A, B and C behind me. Because no day is the same. You have a structure to the I try and habits to I try and have a structure to my day. And of course, if it’s been, there’s a certain day, I’m doing a certain like going on outreach, outreach is going out into the community, then that is a day I would try and keep and that is important. But so much can happen. You the needs are so huge and and you go to the hospital, and you start your morning and then go to the hospital just don’t know how that that day is going to pan out. Expect the unexpected. And that is one of the lovely things about because I
David Ralph [6:26]
don’t think I would like that. I kind of like a moderate structure, you know, doing this short this job at the moment. I like to look at my Google Calendar and go Yes, I’ve got best, best best best. And once I’ve done that, it’s free time I can do whatever I want. But with your kind of job, you could almost be walking out the hospital thinking is job done, and then you’re back in again.
Rita Miller [6:48]
Yeah, sorry, I missed it cut off a bit. I do apologise I didn’t.
David Ralph [6:52]
When you leave the hospital at night, you might go Yes, that’s been a hard day and you’re just going out the door. And when someone says oh Rita, we need to you him and you go back in you. You haven’t got that routine and structure at all? No,
Rita Miller [7:05]
no, how wonderful. I’m
going to send you out to challenge you to come to David and see what I do.
David Ralph [7:14]
videos and stuff kick Can we see it has has the sort of the BBC been around them and that kind of stuff.
Rita Miller [7:20]
Many years ago, I believe there was a video done on community there from the community of candour and the camera hospital. But on the website, friends of calendar, this is a small UK based charity, which I’m one of the trustees, but some amazing charity. And we’ve got a little video people can come watch. Yes, is it gives you an insight.
David Ralph [7:46]
Because the show is called Join Up Dots. After all, I’m going to take you back in time because I was kind of surprised by how English you sound when I started talking to you today. Because as you were telling me just before we sort of really got into the nuts and bolts of it, you spent your first 21 years in in water.
Rita Miller [8:05]
I did I spent the first 2120 Well, I’m saying 21 hang on 23 years actually, with the gap, and I did go to Switzerland for nearly two years. And then when I was 14. And then yes, I got married at age 23 to a British man. And I ended up living in New York.
David Ralph [8:31]
So So did you meet your husband out in mortar? Or were you over in the UK when you met him and he swept you off your feet?
Rita Miller [8:38]
Haha. No, he came, he came through mutual friends of my parents, we will always open house water. And he friends of my parents had suggested that if he could we could have pulled over for a holiday and the rest is history in one way or another? And was it when you first saw him? Did you go? Wow, that is demand for me? Or was it? Was it like I was with my wife? And it was a bit of a slow burner? Go? Well, no. I mean, it was only there for a week. And it was a year later. No, no, no, no. It was a slow.
Yeah, it all happened.
A year later, more or less. Yeah, I came to the UK for a holiday break and visited his family. And then he came back following for another visit. And that summer that Easter? And we got married on Sunday. Yeah.
David Ralph [9:39]
And what is it about the UK you like because you know you’ve caught it your base ever since really except for sort of going over to you again to I know you split your time between the two. But what what is it that sort of it gives you that places like mortar doesn’t.
Rita Miller [9:55]
UK is an amazing place it gives you
at the time very mind you were talking 35 years ago, UK offered me the opportunities. I did my training here that continued if to evolve. It just gave me a lot of opportunities. The people who are wonderful here, I love motor please the motors to my roots. But I don’t think I don’t know, but I have the competence to do what I do. I don’t know whether about stayed there. And did my nurse training there that I now have the confidence of going to Ganga and
be part of
David Ralph [10:46]
what you say that once you say that the training and mortar wouldn’t have given you the competence Where have you gained back competence from
Rita Miller [10:55]
the training at the time possibly. I’m hesitant, because multiple offers an amazing opportunities. So you know, I don’t want to distract from that. But in the UK when I started my training that wasn’t how I was able to extend my knowledge to do various courses that were available I was able to lead a married life and and do and continue nursing and training at the same time. That was that flexibility. And then I went on we moved to New York, I started married off in Holland my life in Holland then we moved to New York, and I was able to do a university degree then eventually as nurse practitioner, so yeah, so So there were those opportunities and my work as well gave me that opportunity I
David Ralph [11:47]
and then Did you always want to be in a caring profession when you was a little girl? Were you the one sort of surrounded by pets and and looking after people and nurturing was that was that part of your sort of skills.
Rita Miller [12:01]
It was it was very much so
I had a slight flair for languages at the time of growing up. Not now if you don’t use the language you do with it. But and my father wasn’t very keen on the nursing and we try and sort of the hands Switzerland and other things. But nothing was always there. And and when I got married, eventually I stopped my nursing course.
David Ralph [12:29]
Because it is a real vocation caring, isn’t it? Because I couldn’t do it. I just know that I couldn’t do it. I can look after my kids. And if I hurt themselves, I’m perfectly okay with her. But even sort of somebody else’s kids, I don’t have that that feeling towards them other than the responsibilities that I’m the adult, I’ve got to look after them. So for you doing it day in day out, you’ve really got to love it, don’t you?
Rita Miller [12:53]
Oh my goodness, but what? looking after children? And if that doesn’t come into intuition occasion, I don’t know what does. My people would so many skills I have with all the skills that I can’t have, I don’t have and you know, each to his own, and even within the nursing community, there is areas of nursing, it would probably break my heart that I couldn’t do
David Ralph [13:22]
like what Rachel, what would get you upset
Rita Miller [13:25]
children with disabilities that always breaks my heart and, and working in the hospice, children or adults, and Maya my nursing colleagues enormously.
And nurses who work in mental health, they are special so special.
I do my heart goes out to them because it’s hard, hard work. Now I do it in Toronto, I do. I’m go paediatrics and and and my and do as much as I can and other areas. And my admiration to these people have increased.
David Ralph [14:07]
I was speaking to a lady the other day, she’s gonna be coming out on episode 135. And she’s a paediatrician in America called Amy Baxter. And she got very upset by Well, basically, her statement was that in the medical profession, you spend all your time trying to take a pain away from people. But when it comes to children, they’re the only ones that we just stick injections into them, because I do them good. And we don’t care, but it’s pain. It’s just hold them down, stick it in the arm, and bang, it’s done. And she got very upset by the distress that kids were feeling. And she started doing a lot of research about the sort of the mental distress. And she found out that if you as a kid in the 70s, in America, you would get something like six injections in your lifetime. Now you get something like 36. And so there’s this kind of mental trauma is building up with people because of this fear of having the injections. So she’s created this little device, and I found it fascinating, called buzzy. And it’s like a little Bumblebee. And you lay on the skin. And it’s cold and it vibrates. And it was simply the principle of if you burn yourself, you put it under how tab and if you bang yourself, you rub it and it sort of stimulates nerve endings and reduces the pain. And she said that exactly like you, she wanted to do the job. But there were certain elements of it that she knew that she had to overcome. And one of the things was causing causing the painted people. So she’s created this little device. That’s amazing is it little thing like that, and you don’t even know, but the injections in you anymore?
Rita Miller [15:44]
Oh, and that’s very, very clever, you know, because there’s a tiny little device like that, which you can use on mosquito bites. And it just takes you birth it and it takes the sting away the itchiness away. So yeah, that is on what she’s done. Because as a profession, the health care profession, we’re there to heal to do good and and not cause pain. That is not it’s to take away pain we want. And yet there are certain procedures, we cause pain, enormous pain, but it doesn’t have to be so you know, doesn’t have to so. But we’re again in where I work in the hospital. And I try and and focus a lot on pain management. And you see the resources, we may not have the resources that are available to take that pain away, we were limited in what we can do,
David Ralph [16:42]
doesn’t that really sort of distress you that you think if I could get these people to a UK Hospital, it would be so different? Or is it just Well, this is all we’ve got. And this is all we can use?
Rita Miller [16:53]
Absolutely. But the number of times that I’ve stood there and reward and with a patient and I thought if only I had the resources, the nurses that are very skilled and the doctors but some of them are limited with our resources. And I think this child is Miss adult, this person would have had to maybe get better and have not gone through the trauma that they had to go through. And we could have saved their life and we could have improved their well being and not cost them so much paying. It is very hard. You have to stand and think with the resources available. What can we do to make this person’s life better, this pain easier to make them more comfortable to heal the wounds to try and minimise the infection? As I said, I’m an enormous all the staff at the hospital. They do an incredible job with with limited resources.
David Ralph [17:55]
So how did it happen that you got out there because you studied to be in the in UK? You was at the whole infirmary? And then you went over there for two weeks. I understand. And my first question is why First of all, why did you go there?
Rita Miller [18:12]
The wish was always there to do some way work. Somewhere along the line. Whenever there’s there was
something like aids or
heartbreaking news on TV, which is most days in our famine disaster, I would actually end up turning the TV off or switching the radio off ashamedly because I would think, How How can I help? What can I do? And then one day, one day I I saw something on TV and I thought, right, this is enough. I have the knowledge and the skills to do something about it, and I will do something about it.
Unknown Speaker [19:02]
And that was the start
Rita Miller [19:05]
from this from seeing that actually I will tell you what it was I saw it was that what made me say finally is enough is enough is the Vicar of Dibley that you have to I was what?
I really didn’t enjoy that programme. So this is around about 2005 2004.
And they put out an episode, I think if memory serves me, right.
It was Make Poverty History. It was before that
campaign Make Poverty History. And that one in one of the episodes showed a small clip of two children whose parents I think the mother had died of AIDS, and the father was dying, okay. And these two kids, it was only a clip of about about an hour long. And a minute long, it broke my heart. It really did. And and that is the point that I can’t listen to this anymore, and not doing something.
David Ralph [20:14]
So so that is really bizarre, isn’t it that, you know, the Vicar of Dibley could be your big.in life, the moment when your life changes, just it’s it’s bizarre how these things can happen at any time.
Rita Miller [20:27]
Yes. And it is amazing. And in that was a point to where I said I can’t just sit and listen, I have to do something about it. I’ve got the knowledge and the skills. And it wasn’t till four years later, about 2009 that myself and a colleague, colleague, a friend, also a nurse practitioner, Christine Robinson, we set up an organisation called Yorkshire practice nurse aide to some support nurses either locally or do aid work either locally or overseas. I had a lot of interest, but the interest was to support me to go overseas because I will support me in my wish to go overseas.
Unknown Speaker [21:18]
Rita Miller [21:20]
that’s how it started.
David Ralph [21:21]
Now this is obviously going to be a stupid question but allow me to do stupid questions. It was obviously a culture shock for you when you went out there but how How surprising was it? Did you have any sort of inkling of what you were going to experience or when you went out there? Did it really take your breath away?
Rita Miller [21:39]
I was totally overwhelmed. And I just you see it on TV you read about
Unknown Speaker [21:51]
Rita Miller [21:54]
and to some extent we see poverty
in other countries where I’ve been button but people have nothing that day I stop feeling not wish to help them is a day I have to leave and I hope that never comes
David Ralph [22:13]
Are you thought of as one of theirs now when you when you first went there what were they really glad that you turned up? Or were they wary that you turned up? How was the vibe of the village?
Rita Miller [22:26]
Oh, welcome to hospital has had
support from various chats more charities or bigger charities and over the years the hospital is now nearly 50 years and the British many nationalities going there and including British people, British doctors who
were medical directors down below regarding the hospital over the years
and a nurse and more and more was there for 15 years and build the hospital up and started nurse a training. So they are the candle they are used to having overseas people people from overseas but we were made I was made so welcome. I now feel part of the team. And, and and it to me that is a great privilege. Candle you know, I always say kinda found me I didn’t set out to God.
That is an extraordinary storey in itself.
David Ralph [23:41]
I love fascinating storeys. That’s what this show is about. And it means I don’t have to say anything really to I can just sit here listening. So yeah, you fall away.
Rita Miller [23:50]
I fire away well,
right when the decision was made an active decision to actually be able to that I was able to go overseas and see where I can be of help. I knew I was a novice to raid work. And I once again I that’s always stands in my mind that I could do more harm than good. So over a period of four months, Chris and I, we spoke to people were out to charities are from numerous people and and spoke to some amazing, amazing aid workers, missionary workers. There’s so many good people out there doing a lot of good quietly. And yet I couldn’t find anywhere I nothing stood out. I don’t know why, but nothing stood out. And then one day I was introduced, I spoke to a surgeon in Wales and I live in New York. And I spoke to a guy called Martin milling who’s he’s retired now where he was a plastic surgeon. And he told me about this place in ganda county hospital that he went a couple of times, is it it’s an amazing place, he said, You won’t find it on the map printer, he said, but if you look on the website, as a small UK based charity, called friends of mine will tell you, I’ll give you an idea of what kinda hospital was all about. And this was the Saturday and I looked and I liked what I saw. I pulled up from Chris up and I found her the next day and said to Chris, I think I found a place where we can go. And she said, Oh, bizarrely she said, I’ve been goes to St. Michael, the belfry a church in New York. And she hadn’t realised that for the past couple of years, they’ve been supporting physiotherapist out in Africa. And she said, I’ll come back with the hospital, I can’t remember the name and where it is. And of course, it turned out to be comfortable. Now, how extraordinary is this guy we could have gone anywhere in the world could have gone anywhere in Africa, anywhere in Uganda.
And it turned out to become the hospital. So it couldn’t ignore it.
David Ralph [26:09]
Well, I think that is just true of literally every storey that i’ve i’ve heard on this show, it’s, it’s amazing. You know, we started the show based around the words of Steve Jobs. And it was just a simple speech. But I found it empowering. And I’m going to play it in a moment. But it is so amazing how these weird things happen. And your life gets connected in ways that you can’t believe, until as he says, you look and you reflect and you look back, and you see how your life has ended up and you can actually see the steps that made it occur. So I’m going to play the words of Steve Jobs. And then I’m just going to ask whether, you know, they seem to be relevant to you. But whether they do have a relevance to you, this is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [26:50]
Okay, of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later, when you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [27:26]
All those words comforting to you Rita.
Rita Miller [27:28]
comforting is a strange word. I think he applies. Yes. I I don’t often sit. I don’t sit back and look back. But now that I hear those words, you’re my childhood maybe doesn’t apply to everybody. But looking back now, what happened throughout my life? How am I my upbringing, my parents a great sense of carrying my mother was very much involved in child work and
giving of self and my father, both of them were
gift to others, we had a very privileged life. So be aware that others are not as privileged as you are. And that gave me always a sense of how, but by the grace of God, and you must help others in whatever way you can, whatever simple way you can. And I always when I’m in control, I look at the community and thing, you know that, but by the grace of God, and it is a lottery. And and so I feel it is payback time. And looking back to my nursing career, meeting, Cathy Oh, doubt, and everything seemed to help guide me in that way. And because I have faith as well and directs me there when I’m struggling, yes.
David Ralph [29:07]
Because I used the word comforting, because I listened to those words on a daily basis now. And I actually find them comforting that something is going to happen that is good in my life. I just I just feel that now. And yes, I’m taking huge action. Yes, I’m doing this every day. Yes, I’m working harder than I’ve ever done before. But I look at those words. And I think yes, I can already see it. And so by actually, you know, following those leaps of faith, trust, intuition, whatever he says that ultimately, you know, if push comes to shove, you’re going to have a very good life, you’ve directed your life where it should be. And you’re a classic example of that you’ve taken risks, you’ve taken challenges, you’ve overcome challenges. And you seem to me to be someone who’s very content, very comfortable with the decisions that you you’ve made.
Rita Miller [29:59]
I am your right, I am hugely comfortable in the decision I made. But I can’t take those decisions and make those decisions without the support of my former husband and my daughter, my friends enormously supportive. And the support has come from people, all sorts of directions, and the charity, I am part of the Friends of the Congo being my friends here in New York who help and support me and when the organisation is gone, ganda care. Now it’s all focused on candle wondering, I can’t do it my family and Walter I can’t do it without the support of others. Just knowing that they’re there, I’ve got friends, you know, all over just say, Are you okay? And that means a lot to me. And, and just, it helps helps.
David Ralph [30:53]
What I’m going to do now Rita is I’m going to send you back in time, I’m going to send you back in time to have a wonderful with your younger self. And if you could go back in time and speak to the younger, Rita Miller. What kind of advice would you give her based on the experience you’ve gained in the subsequent years? So I’m going to play the theme tune and when it fades out, you’re up and this is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [31:22]
Here we go. With the best bit of the show.
Rita Miller [31:40]
It’s the heart, David looking back I but where should I start? Return Miller or Rita Spiteri as I was, but what I say is be open to change, be always open to change. Looking back, David, I still wouldn’t change my career path. opportunities come along in one’s life, that may involve a lot of hard work, and probably with some degree of risk, whether financially, physically, or even both, really, but follow that path you never dreamt it would be possible. It may mean going out of your comfort zone, but be bold, and be brave. You know, I feel big sometimes ask how old I am. Or feel embarrassed about asking my age when I did this career change. I say just, I’m not embarrassed or feel or don’t be embarrassed or feel awkward. I’m, I’m not 58 on the verge of going 59 I feel very, very blessed. Certainly in in Africa. Their life is a struggle where suddenly the the area I live women and men and children die at the very engaged some of them. So I feel very, very grateful, very blessed. And that is why I say never be afraid to change and and grab every opportunity that life officer,
David Ralph [33:13]
you’ve helped me you’ve inspired me very much rated because you know you’re such a lovely person, and you’re not doing your work in an easy place I can imagine and there must be issues, not least just being over there where you’re suddenly isolated from family and friends for long periods of time. So it must be very, very difficult for you. So you are you’re an inspiration to me. And I’m so glad that Kathy O’Dowd introduced you. So for all our listeners out there, how can they connect with you Rita.
Rita Miller [33:46]
And they can connect with various ways. The Facebook, obviously, they can connect with friends of candle with the chatty, and go on the website, friends gone dot.org.uk they can also contact me by email, the most welcome return Maria firstname.lastname@example.org. There is always LinkedIn, I’m not very good with Twitter. But it’s there if they wish to go down that route. One thing I just like to say, David, though, you mentioned about being hard Uganda. Yes, it is hard from the meeting family and friends. But it is just such a privilege and such an honour. For me my time of life to work with these people. I’m only a guest there and they’ve opened their their houses in their homes to me and I have so much to thank them for my life has been enriched by going to Commando. It is a wonderful, wonderful community. It is these people who have so little are so uncomplaining there’s so much acceptance in their lives. And they they they are so grateful for their line. And it’s just humbling. It truly is. And I just my big wishes I could, for one, give them some joy, some happiness, not only in the healing part, but also in their daily lives, which is sometimes quite, you know, with challenges every day is a challenge for them. For many of them in this community, you can there’s a beautiful country, but this is community in the mountains, the foothills of the mountains, which is a great challenge.
David Ralph [35:57]
Rita, it’s been an absolute delight speaking today. Thank you so much for spending time with us today joining those dots of your life. And please come back again when you have more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining those dots and connecting our past is absolutely the best way to build our futures. Bry tomato, thank you so much.
Rita Miller [36:15]
Thank you, David. It’s a pleasure. It’s been a great job today. Great fun. Thank you. Thank you for this podcast. You’re doing amazing work.
Unknown Speaker [36:23]
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