Welcome To The Join Up Dots Business Coaching Podcast With Runa Magnusdottir
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Introducing Runa Magnusdottir
Runa Magnusdottir is today’s guest joining us on the Join Up Dots businesss coaching podcast interview.
Like a few of the guests nowadays, she is appearing on the show for the second time since first appearing back in May 2015.
Back then we talked about how her life changed with the collapse of her countries economy almost overnight.
How she believed that so many people need to go through a downturn in fortune to find their true selves.
And many other amazingly interesting conversation pieces.
Now she seems to have really sped up and found her true life mission with the Change Makers.
How The Dots Joined Up For Runa Magnusdottir
The Change Makers mission with the #NoMoreBoxes Movement is to increase awareness and create BIG conversations of the limiting, isolating and divisive boxes to over 5 million people worldwide by the end of 2020 with our 2019 World Tour launching;
Facilitating and ultimately creating a safe space for a deep and meaningful conversations around the often invisible and limiting boxes human beings either place themselves or others into.
Training, teaching and certifying conscious organisations, businesses how to set up and facilitate their own #NoMoreBoxes Breakfast Clubs.
Enabling them to build an inclusive culture where people feel safe to have deep non-judgemental conversations around the boxes they have placed themselves or others in.
In 2019 the main topic will be a around these 3-Boxes: THE GENDER, GENERATION and GOOD ENOUGH BOXES
Raising awareness around the consequences of the limiting boxes and co-creating the world where humans thrive, regardless of their gender, race, religion, age etc.
Now if that doesn’t really seem clear then we will delve deep to bring clarity.
So does she see this stage of her career a natural progression from where she was?
Or has this taken her by surprise and made her realise that she wasn’t thinking big enough just a few years ago
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Runa Magnusdottir
During the show we discussed such weighty subjects with Runa such as:
Runa shares why we have the problem that we cannot see what is in front of us no matter how obvious it might be.
We discuss the differences between being a human doer and a human being, and why it is so important to grasp.
Why we should be growing our awareness of the choices being made for us, instead of allowing others to make those choices.
Why it is ok to allow yourself to play and have fun everyday. Even if you are an adult who left play behind years ago.
How To Connect With Runa Magnusdottir
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Audio Transcription Of Runa Magnusdottir Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph
David Ralph [0:25]
Yes. Hello there. Good morning. Good morning to all the listeners across the world who tuned in, in ever increasing numbers to listen to join up dots thank you so much for being here. And thank you so much. But today’s guest who like a few of the guests nowadays, she’s appearing on the show for the second time, because She first appeared back in May 2015. And back when we talked about how her life changed with the collapse of our country’s economy almost overnight how she believed that so many people need to go through a downturn in fortune to find their true selves and many other amazingly interesting calm pieces. So go back and listen to that show good for downloads. Now, she seems to have really sped up and found her true life mission. In the meantime, with the change makers. Now the change makers mission with the hashtag and no more boxes movement is to increase awareness and create big conversations of the limiting isolating and diversity boxes, to over 5 million people worldwide by the end of 2020. Without 2019 World Tour launching Now, what this means is facilitating and ultimately creating a safe space to a deep and meaningful conversation around the often invisible and limiting boxes, human beings I have a price on themselves, or others into she likes to try and teach and certify conscious organizations and businesses how to set up and facilitate their own. No more boxes, breakfast clubs. Now, in 2019, the main topic will be around three boxes to Agenda generation and good enough boxes, right awareness around the consequences of the limiting boxes and co creating a world where humans thrive, regardless of their gender, race, religion, age, etc. That doesn’t seem really clear at the moment, then we’re going to delve deep to bring clarity to you. So does she see this stage of a career as a natural progression from where she was? Allah has taken her by surprise and made her realize that she wasn’t thinking big enough. Just a few years ago. Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show, to start join up dots with the one and only rule now Magnus. Good morning.
Runa Magnusdottir [2:37]
Good morning David Oh, my God, I’m so good. And now after listening to this introduction, I am saying God, I’m not on camera, because
David Ralph [2:50]
well, you shouldn’t blush you shouldn’t last because you are one of my special guests. You’re somebody that I’m invited back on to the show twice. And I do remember our conversation. visibly really, it’s almost like it’s a picture in my head, because you are the only guest and we’re not going to go there. So you’re going to have to go back and listen to it. But you’re the only guests that I actually brought up your boobies. And it was the conversation. It wasn’t me being rude. There was a reason for it. And I still think about that.
Runa Magnusdottir [3:27]
Well, it’s good that my boobies have actually it’s not just all about my boobies. In fact David is about your boobies. It’s about is about the boobies that we all have. And we all have booties or tits, like I used to talk about at that time. Yeah. You make me laugh when I think about that conversation. Yeah, yeah.
David Ralph [3:47]
And is there something that you focusing on anymore? Was that kind of a moving point to where you are now?
Runa Magnusdottir [3:54]
Well, the the whole thing about and just to give the context into what we’re talking about boobies going right into that and by all means for anyone that thinks that we are going into any sorts of me to conversation, it this is on really on me. The whole conversation around the boobies and what I’ve been talking about is, for many years, actually, I’ve been talking about how we are often so blind on the solution to our problems, and they are normally right in front of our kids. And we don’t just don’t see them and what I think what has changed for me since 2015. And how things that we’ve evolved from from that place has been really about going deeper into why are we not seeing the way we’re not noticing the our, our solution or the path to our solution. Why are we so blindfolded often for the solutions to our that is maybe stopping us from being happy or stopping us from growing or stopping us from from feeling irresistible attractive. And then I’m not talking about physically irresistible attractive, I’m talking about just basically being that character that shines from the inside out. And that has that is definitely with the boxes that I’m talking about today it has evolved into really going deeper into that whole concept that you shall brilliantly introduced in the beginning of boxes, and how they are so limiting us. So limiting human beings that it’s almost frightening David is so to see how we do this automatically, without no thinking without, you know, just on on life computer, we have this computer computer programming, and we just go in, we don’t even think about upgrading that program at all. We just go and do it. And we say oh David he is a man. So he has to be this. Here I am I’m a woman, then I have to be that when in fact, we’re all sorts, right?
David Ralph [6:23]
Well, I Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. But the trouble with it. But let’s step back one more step back into the conversation. Now, we’re not going to go back into boobie talk about what we are going to do is I think one of the issues why people can’t see stuff is because they’re just too busy doing stuff. And I’ve become very aware recently on join up dots but by doing less, I can gain better clarity, it’s important to do nothing every now and again. And will lead do nothing so that you can see the important stuff, what needs to be done. So I think that’s one of the issues. I think people go into boxes, because they’re so busy doing everything they don’t stop to being number one is the right box. And number two, had they got a choice, would you say?
Runa Magnusdottir [7:14]
Yeah, it’s a we can we can use that as an excuse that that’s why we’re doing it. Um, but I want to ask you a question, then I, David, Are you a human door? Or are you a human being?
David Ralph [7:29]
I think I used to be a human. But now I’m a human being. And what I mean by that I’m so much more aware. I become, I used to be a dad. But man, I used to play that role. And if things were wobbly in my life, I wouldn’t show it at all, it would not be part of my conversation with my wife. strength was the part that I played. But now I’m very much more aware. And I will say to my wife, I feel off the color today. I don’t feel my normal self. I feel emotional. I’ve got tears in my eyes. And I don’t know why. And when I have those moments of being a human being, it’s when I grow. It’s when I actually step back and think why why am I feeling this? Everything’s great in my life. So what am I actually building this this wobble? So yeah, I think I was a doula. But now I think I’m definitely human being almost to the point that sometimes I feel ashamed that I am too much of a human being sometimes I share too much of what I’m not ready to share and what the person receiving that information isn’t ready to share either.
Runa Magnusdottir [8:41]
Hmm, I love that. I really love that. And I think there there’s a certain shift going on in the world at the moment. And we can look out this will over the over the years over the last I would say it’s been emerging really since since the millennium. And nowadays it you know, if you look at, and if I’m use the term boxes, again, if we look at not that many years ago, people that were really thinking about recycling, they were thinking about meditation, they were thinking about we need to take care of our environment. They were put into the verbal box, right? Yeah. And they were they were like, huh, yeah, sure that like, like, we’re needing that and but nowadays, the the blue box has really changed. And there are more people in the blue box that doesn’t really make it a boo boo any longer. And it’s just accepted. And you see people are going there, they’re doing you know, they’re authentically admitting saying I’m meditating or I’m using mindfulness or I’m doing this I’m going I’m doing my yoga, whatever it is, to actually settled in and to actually create space in their head. I think mostly in their head to think about who am I really what am I doing really on this planet? Now? What is it that I want to how do I want to make a difference? I think I think we all in one way or another want to have a purpose and we want to and when we have a purpose. But Are we clear on what is our purpose? That’s another thing so using these tools that allow accepted and you not in Google box, if you use them, you creating space, for new way of thinking for new way of listening and the consequences of that. You leaving the preform thinking and listening, which is your program, and you have space to move around in your box you have actually space to and clarity to look at how do I want my box to look like? And what do I want to call it? That is an enormous amount of freedom that you are then giving yourselves and the minute David the minute, I’m sure that happened to you as well. When you turn from being a human door to be a human being the many of you do so you have such freedom. And you give other people freedom to do the same.
David Ralph [11:23]
Yeah, you do. You do? Absolutely. But there is a fear that you are, it’s almost like you feel like you’ve got this one opportunity to get the right box. And you’re as I was certainly in corporate land, and I decided I was going to do the leap, I was gonna leave and create something. And it was really scary because I didn’t want to screw it up. This was my only opportunity to do it. Now I’m into it. And I think to myself now actually, if I screw it up again, I do a build another box. And I’ll just keep on doing it until I find that the right thing. But I think the listeners out there that listen to shows like this. They they want the right box straight away. Is that is that possible winner?
Runa Magnusdottir [12:11]
Yeah, yeah, it is. And and that has to do with your mindset. Because if your mindset is into the moment, you’re in the right box in the mother’s moment
David Ralph [12:23]
I’ve got more than that I was I’m so aware but once Luna gets passionate about a subject she goes on for 15 minutes and I was just gonna go off and move along and Bangkok and doing it so where did I get this mindset? How did they get this mindset because mindset is not some is the thing mindset without that is the thing and even my son last night I was watching Tottenham Hotspur and there’s gonna be a spoiler alert. Now there won’t be because he it would have gone Tottenham Hotspur as they overcome all the odds in a football match. And the guys, they weren’t playing brilliantly, as footballers. But I had something extra, I had passion and I had enthusiasm. And I said to my son, I think they can do this band. I think they’re going to do this and you know, it always ends up rubbish. I said, No, no believe believe they’re going to go through this is going to be amazing. And now I was not even a Tottenham supporter going I think they’ve got it. I think they’ve got this extra thing, this this rocky ability to overcome the obstacles where his mindset was, no is going to end up rubbish. Now. He was actually a Tottenham supporter. He’s a Trump supporter. So he should have sort of had that mindset. But he hasn’t even we’re probably one of the most annoyingly motivational dads he could possibly have. who tries to find the motivation angle at every stage. He still hasn’t got it. So the people out there that’s listening. It’s all as talking about if you’ve got the right mindset, how do you get a buena? It’s,
Runa Magnusdottir [14:03]
it’s it’s a journey, it’s absolutely as a journey, but I’ll give you a give you with context of the boxes and mindset. You see, as we are all in a box, or boxes middle like Russian dolls in many boxes. Being aware, what you just talked about earlier is such a key thing to think about. So mindset to Am I aware of the box that I am in? Am I aware of the box that I’m putting other people into, or I am allowing other people to put me into. So that that is that has the key of awareness that really has to do with your mindset. Because once you are aware, you can start to choose. And that, again has to do with your mindset, you can choose Is this a box that I am the books that I am in? And let’s just say for for the sake of the argument, let’s say let’s talk about the happiness box, which is a box that I’ve been working quite a lot with, written lately. So if you look at your happiness book, so what is included in your happiness books? Are you happy? You know, it’s question, am I happy? Hmm? Well, yeah, well, that’s that. Are there things that I’m not quite happy with? I’m not quite finding myself. When I think about it, I’m not having that really good belly laughs that I used to have, you know, that’s awareness, awareness to why am I not laughing? as I did, you know, I understood love to laugh and there’s something has shifted for me I’m, I’m more serious, well, why am I more serious. So just you become more aware of your, where you’re at. And the moment you start to, to, to be aware that you are in a box and your happiness box and may not be glowing with happiness, and may actually be very small, and maybe actually quite strangling you. In fact, you might not even have an oxygen in there. So you do you know, do you actually want to go into the happiness box? So there comes your choice. And you have three choices? You have the choice to say, okay, am I going to live in this box? just accepted as it is just being there? And just saying, Okay, yeah, that’s my happiness box, and I can’t do anything about it. That’s just how it is, you know, that’s a choice. Yeah. Or am I gonna? Am I gonna? Love it? That’s also a choice, or am I going to leave it? So you have you do have choices. And all of these choices have to do with your mindset. So once you are aware that you are in a box, you can make up your mind is this something you want to change about this, if not love it, and make a choice that you can love it, and do everything in your power to love it. If however, you want to change it, there are certainly ways to do that. And again, then you have to raise your mindset into the vibrancy of, of a real human being, who is loving it, then loving life and wants to be in that high frequency at a high frequency being doing things that are purposeful and doing things that I’m really, you know, speaks to their heart. And they they feel that they’re supposed to be doing that. Do you see the difference that
David Ralph [17:29]
I see totally the difference. And we’re going to delve into this because I think this is fundamental for the listeners. But this listen to some words. And we’ll be back with Bruno,
Jim Carrey [17:37]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [18:04]
Now that ties in nicely with our conversation and one of the things that I find disappointing but totally understandable as well is how many people don’t truly believe that they can create a life I love and make an income from it. We can all create a hobby we love but actually turning that into something that consumes us and I know you’ve done it and I’ve done it and you won’t find a bigger idiot for me I’m just an idiot with persistence as I always say to people, but
Unknown Speaker [18:38]
how it’s a nice box
David Ralph [18:40]
is somebody who bring in your house and they said me Have you got the cleaners in
Runa Magnusdottir [18:45]
David Ralph [18:47]
So posh you’ve got staff This is
Runa Magnusdottir [18:50]
okay, so we’re going back into the really worth the cautious of the boxes and in our in the book that I wrote last year and published called the story boxes, the good, the bad, and the ugly. We are going we actually look at the eight drivers behind the the boxes. So why are you in that box. So you mentioned this thing about people not believing that they can actually make a living from what they love and what they you know are passionate about. That is one of the boxes that could be simply they were brought up with the program when they were you as a as a as a child and basically learning how to live in this in this world. They might have been told repeatedly money don’t grow on trees. You have to put bread on your paper money a table and the you know and and life is hard and you’re supposed to suffer and we in our family we don’t do that, you know, they’re all of these things, all of these things that you you know, we had all told that one way or another and we are all programmed in in in in the way that we men think is that’s how the world look like when the world in fact doesn’t look like that. I cannot Can I feel one huge secret about the boxes
David Ralph [20:13]
you share what you want room now your podcast because
Runa Magnusdottir [20:16]
I think I think the biggest thing about the boxes and how awful they can they can show up in our life they can also be the perfect thing in our life you know you you may be stumped collected David and we show your stamp collecting box is a beautiful thing when it nurturing you and having fun with all your other stamp collectors. It is when it starts to isolate you from others or you or your you start to create us and then when it doesn’t really work for us. And here’s the big thing, the big secret, the absolutely biggest secret that I noticed in all of this work, looking into this and helping people with their boxes and helping them clarify their boxes and with the boxes that they want to be in and leave the ones that are not serving them. The secret is this. The boxes, they actually don’t exist.
David Ralph [21:20]
You say that again, say that this is blowing my mind room. So we’ve been talking about boxes for 21 minutes, and now they don’t
Runa Magnusdottir [21:28]
exist, expand right down axis at all. It is all in your head. I’ll tell
David Ralph [21:39]
you something, I realized, okay, my biggest box has been given to me by my mom. Now I’m going to be nearly 50 now. And I’ve realized that the journey that I’ve been on has become or was terribly difficult by the box by my mom created for me. And the fact that even now she’s won’t 79 coming up, it feels like they’re still now she will make comments. But it is trying to push me back from what I’m doing into corporate land, because that’s her. That’s her box that has safety in it backs her belief. And I have noticed that when people say oh, it’s because of my childhood, I was guy Rob, as you know, not every buttons either crap childhood, he’s been fine. But I think my biggest box was created by my mom. And she’s still trying to ram it into me.
Runa Magnusdottir [22:34]
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I would do this all the time. We do this all the time. And, and I’m not saying that. When I say they don’t exist, I’m just saying, There is so much liberation out there. When you start to make a choice of how you’re going to show up in your life and your everyday every action, every intention that you take into the every single day, every single moment you choose if what you want to do with that box you choose for Howdy, how do you want to how do you want to work with your mom on this? Are you discovered? I you know, are you accepting it as it is? Are you just allowing it to read? Are you actually taking it in and allowing it to affect you? You
David Ralph [23:16]
know, yeah, that’s what I’m going to do.
Runa Magnusdottir [23:21]
I mean, we all have a mom or dad or a brother or sister or cousin, whatever, there are people in our lives that are affected us. And you know, we just have to be we just have to be aware that these are just our stories. It’s just a story. And it’s a story that we told ourselves so many times that we of course we believe them, of course, and the stories are an hour but now my dog is having a little taste in order. The the this is the stories that we tell ourselves, you know, the stories that you telling yourself that your mom is is, is really has that big influence you and I’m sure if you had both positive and negative influence in you, but it’s your choice, which one are you going to show up in life with? Are you going to show up with the positive impact that he made on you? Or the negative?
David Ralph [24:11]
I actually don’t think being transparent here. I don’t think my mom will anything positive into my life at all. Looking at it now. It was interesting. My my dad was always entrepreneurial. My dad, if I did bad in my school exams, you always wanted to tell dad before you told mom, if you tell dad, it was out that while he work a bit harder next time. And if you told mom, it was awful, your life is over. You’ve ruined it. And you know, only six. So um, I think that we’ve my parents, certainly and I’d be very interested to hear other stories across the world. Well, I had that similar kind of, you know, the famous clocks that when it rains, the man with the sword I umbrella comes out. And when it’s Sunday Monday, the sunny person, I think that I had those payments, I think that there was a sunny one and then a rainy one. And because my dad was working so hard all the time. I never really saw the sunny version. I just saw that the rainy person. That’s right. Yeah.
Runa Magnusdottir [25:14]
And And isn’t that isn’t that you know, you have it, then you can think about what is the program that your mom was brought up with? What was what was he repeatedly told?
David Ralph [25:24]
So how do how do we break this? You know, this is a very open and transparent conversation.
Unknown Speaker [25:30]
Oh, yeah. But how
David Ralph [25:32]
do we do because I think most people out there will have had these stories, these books rammed in women.
Runa Magnusdottir [25:40]
We all have them, we absolutely all have them. And what we’re doing with the normal boxes awareness movement is to raise awareness around them. So the basically when, when one of the things that I’ve seen as the outcome of that is that people start to say, Oh, my God, I just put you into a box. Or they say, Oh, I think you just put me into a box. Now David you know, in a non judgmental way. That’s one of the way that we want to change this, but saying that you asked me a question, how do we change that? I think we change that, when you can change that immediately by changing your language. That is a immediate change. You can go in to every single day. And when you cautious of how you use your language, how you use your words, how you place every every man in one box, every woman and another box when you place. Like just an excellent example. The other day, I was going into my bank and I I realized that I was thinking, gosh, bankers are such boring people. And, and when I thought, you know, the minute I realized that was my thoughts are my god. I’m the energy behind that thought and that I’m putting every single person on this planet that works in a bank, and I was a client.
David Ralph [26:58]
I was working for 20 years.
Runa Magnusdottir [27:00]
You bought you boring? I was. I was.
Come on, you’re not boring David
David Ralph [27:08]
boring, because I didn’t give myself a chance to not be bored. You know, I accepted because I went through the education system, which is basically 90% of his
Runa Magnusdottir [27:19]
story. Yeah, this is this is just another story of yours.
David Ralph [27:24]
Always nice, true rumor. But if you go to school, it’s full. Except for one or two really brilliant teachers that we all look back on and we go Oh, if only school.
Runa Magnusdottir [27:38]
But then it was Judy, who was with you in your class. And Judy actually loved school. She actually she went through the exactly the same thing as you did, but she loved it. And what was the difference? Well, Judy had a different program in mind than you. And that’s how we all do. Now we’re all
David Ralph [27:57]
arguing with a woman but I’m arguing. We have a woman who knows the stuff. Yes. School is just boredom. So this is my story. I was so bored for like 15 years at school, that when I went into corporate land, I program myself that it was okay to be bored. So when I went in there, I never once chose a different way of doing it until the pain got too big. And I went, I can’t do this anymore. I have to leave. From that point onwards. I sometimes wonder why it took so long. But then I also think I wouldn’t have been ready. You You have to be ready at that right time to do that. But I think my story will be made into a film and say, Oh my God, he’s right, in every regard.
Runa Magnusdottir [28:49]
I’m not saying that you’re wrong. I’m just saying it’s just a story. Um, you choose how to how you say your story. And you choose. I mean, your story is very empowered for so many. It’s so empowering to know that someone that was so bored that went into this corporate box and just was almost, you know, suffocating yourself in that corporate box you you birthed out of it. And that’s, that’s empowering, but I’m just
David Ralph [29:16]
pointing out it’s just a story. One or two most boring professions. And insurance. Yeah, would you say banking and insurance?
Runa Magnusdottir [29:26]
I’m not gonna go there because I do it.
Well, I think your listeners for anyone who’s listening to David and his podcast, please send David especial heart methods telling him he’s not boring anymore, that he left the boring box and he is in a box where he can grow and he’s helping other people to grow. That was going on with the special message from David
David Ralph [29:55]
I like the way you went deep and sexy, then when you said that you your voice drop your voice. message, the message went out. One of the things I’m aware, I’m on this box being now I’m looking at my whole life and thinking box box box. And one of the things I’ve realized is that entrepreneur life can be one of the most straining boxes that you create, you know, literally, I don’t see anyone at all week after week after week. And I say to people, you know, I know it’s brilliant. It’s great. I don’t have any of the hassles. And then at like Christmas, I don’t have any other parties. I don’t get invited to anything you know, and all that kind of stuff. is can we ever break free from boxes? Or are we just leaping into more comfortable boxes?
Runa Magnusdottir [30:46]
I think again, I think it really has to this is such a good question. Because I’ve been thinking a lot about this, I think what we need to do and what I’m doing on a day to day basis myself with my with myself and with my clients as well. is to be more aware of how do I want my box to look like and how do I want to show up in life? And how do I want to show up in for myself, you know, looking at in my mirror and not talking about physically, I’m just talking about it, who am I and what am I here to do. And, and showing up in a way that it’s not only you know, I think it’s really important, when you start to look at especially my I’m just sorry that I’m rambling here because I’m thinking about what you said about being an entrepreneur and it can be a lonely life, I think I think when you go into an entrepreneur and you’re going to you have any interaction and and and in this part of your box, to step out of maybe some habit of yours of not interacting or not taking a stand or not smiling to a stranger over whatever it is that is holding you back, you know, to do it to do to challenge yourself on a day to day basis, knowing that you are on a journey and you are building your own box and you’re building a box that is allowing you to be who you are is allowing you have it has faced for late allowing you to grow. And it has, you’re challenging yourself every single day with little bits that are like an experiment to say, Okay, I’m gonna I’m going to smile to a stranger Today I am going to show off being listening a little bit deeper than I did yesterday, I’m going to actually pick up the phone and I’m going to call a friend today and have a conversation, I’m not going to tax on a call, you know, they used to do that until days, I’m going to take up that old habit and you know, all of these little things that we can do on a day to day basis that enable us to build a box that is transparent. And it is you can see through it. And you can see the possibilities outside of it. And and you can make really conscious choice of who who am I who am I gonna? Who do what what sort of people do I want to embrace and allow into my box? And who am I going to invite and and when do I need to step up my own game so that I invite maybe people into my box that I thought would never ever, ever be part of my network or my circle. And so it’s it, I look at it as a game. And I look at it as I’ve recently decided to look at this as being a little girl and and loving, you know, going out to play with I used to do a lot when I was a little girl now play and I mean freedom running around and playing with other kids and all that. But everyday for me today is aka days I’m going to play today, how do I make this day in a playful day that I’m consciously growing my happiness box, I’m consciously aware of who I am and what I want to leave behind what sort of, like, legacy do I want to leave behind and do that with open heart, and I and it’s I’m absolutely not saying that it’s easy, but it is a choice. And and and and there are ways to, to dig into your little program. And it is there are ways I go to the lead the program that is no longer serving you and resource it or even restore it with with a new program if there are so many ways out there to do so. Um, I
David Ralph [35:04]
mean, I think is is the key. I really do think when you when you were saying, you know, I was on a ferry recently, and I was going to a dance festival, my daughter was performing at a dance festival. So we was on this ferry going to this island. And her dance team got out of the cars. And you know, when you’re lining up for a ferry, you’re already in these sort of cues. And then you’re waiting for them to allow you on. Well, there was a big better car park and all the dance girls got out and they started dancing. And they started performing live. And you could see all the sort of people sitting in their cars, either thinking this is mad, or vaping going now actually this is this is fun. This is really brilliant. Okay, and I was watching it. And I was thinking yeah, that’s great. I couldn’t do that. I couldn’t just get out there and just dance around and stuff. And believe me Buddha, I hate dancing with a passion. And so as I was watching her do it, I thought to myself, I’m going to do this, I’m going to wait till they finish. And then I’m going to jump out and I’m going to dance by Robin Barry. And so I did. And as soon as I started doing it and I didn’t even get close to my Michael Jackson moonwalk, which I have been perfecting. My daughter was instantly dragging me by the ankles to try to get me back into the car. So even though her box was about freedom and pie, as soon as I thought I’m going to create the same box that that box got closed down.
Runa Magnusdottir [36:27]
Yeah, yeah. And isn’t that isn’t that Isn’t that beautiful? Well done. You.
David Ralph [36:32]
Well done. You was a beautiful moment. I tell you it was a beautiful moment. And yeah, the last time I danced was at my wedding. I turned to dancing it to me, okay, I get up and do karaoke, you know, a drop of a hat. You don’t even have to hand me a microphone. I do that but dancing. I I can’t bear it. So it was it was a big box that I created.
Runa Magnusdottir [36:53]
Uh, yeah. But I think when you’re saying this
is all we have? We have we are all so.
Yeah, I mean, I think every one of us are, we look at the world from our window and how we choose to see outside of our window, you know, which is our program again, and our box again. And so I think has so much to do with with us, you know, for you to stand up and do the dancing. It’s you that is, you know, you have the heartbeat before going Oh, shit I share I shouldn’t mind you know? Yeah, yeah, I’m gonna go and you go, you know, and, and it’s you that got that feeling of Well, that’s fantastic till your daughter came in and, and throw you back into into the little box that she was in. So so I think that it’s one of those steps that you take that next time when you get that idea you well, like, it’s my daughter here now she’s not. So I’m definitely going to do this now full time. You know, you you made that stop. That’s what I’m saying. And I felt
David Ralph [38:14]
stupid doing it. And so when you said you know, it felt wonderful. It didn’t. I felt all the way through. But I still did it.
Runa Magnusdottir [38:24]
Yeah, well, well done you This reminds me when you’re saying that it reminds me on so many occasions, you know, I travel the world and I speak at conferences and you know, I’m coaching and doing these workshops and all of that. And so often throughout my life so often I find myself in an airport, you know one of those busy Heathrow Gatwick, or whatever, big big airports and and and there you see massive amount of people coming from all over the world and they’re also into their own little world, aren’t they? They’re checking the the in the checking the you know, we’re in this my flight coming or leaving or whatever, you know, they’re really in their own little thoughts. And but their massive amount of people and how I’ve done this, and this is the first time actually I think I’m saying this on on the air. I have just for the sake of having fun for myself and checking. Is anyone really watching if I would do something different? And what can I share with you what I did
David Ralph [39:27]
Runa Magnusdottir [39:29]
David Ralph [39:31]
doubt Oh, that’s where we were going going. I knew
Runa Magnusdottir [39:35]
what I did, you know, I remember I was I was listening to you know, often have something a podcast or something I listened to it wasn’t something when I’m traveling on this hour listening to music, and they they the song It’s raining man was singing in my air and you know, it’s raining. raining? Yeah. Yeah. And, and, you know, I’m finding myself that I’m really wiggling my, my thighs here to TT TT TT, and none of that. What if I just totally just start to dance? You know, no one is listening to this except me. And so I gradually made the movements a little bit bigger than than I would normally have done. And yes, I was, uh, I can, I can recall, I can understand what you were going through dancing, because I remember thinking, is anyone watching, you know, am I really doing this? You know, am I really doing it? And as I was doing this, I know that no one was paying any attention. So I just thought, so I decided to do this hops, you know, like, it’s raining men want to the right, and one to the left. And, and then, you know, gradually I think it was at the end of the song really, you know, I just did one big allow that’s reading man. Oh, yeah. Man, no one’s watching. I was totally in my own little bubble.
David Ralph [40:56]
That’s a strange, isn’t it that people didn’t at least a look at you. But I suppose that is what life is all about. I think that is actually the most perfect story because you created a box for yourself that didn’t exist. That’s the secret. And nobody cares. And I’ve realized that in life. And the more I move through my journey of discovery, and I’ve had ups and downs, I realized that more often than not the people that were with you at the beginning, you’ve got to lose, because they’re not ready to move with you. And when you are having difficulties, very few people step up and help you because they are so busy with their own lives, is you building your own boxes all the way through, and I’m going to live in a life now this is what I’m going to do, I’m going to have the world in a box. And that’s it, just this one box, and I’m going to embrace the world. In one, I don’t want it not to be in a box because it might just blow off somewhere and I’d lose it. So I’m gonna have to well in a box. And I’m going to try to live a life with no restraints at all. Rona.
Runa Magnusdottir [42:06]
I’m so happy to hear you say that is one tiny thing that I would like to hear tiny, tiny, tiny differently. So if you would change that into I am going to instead of trying?
David Ralph [42:22]
What did I say? Trying?
Runa Magnusdottir [42:23]
Yeah, you said trying. And I thought you know, it’s not going to work if David is only going to try and you know, either you do this or you don’t.
David Ralph [42:30]
I’m going to do it. I’m I’m inspired by you from your Icelandic cave. And I think to myself, this is what I’m going to do. I’m going to smash down and I’m going to live a life of no boxes. I’m going to make love to strangers. Even if I don’t want it. I’m going to drink heavily while I’m driving. I’m going to say there’s no rules anymore. I’m gonna say Rooney. I didn’t. No restraints, I can do what I want. I’ve now got a superpower. anything I want. I can just go out and take
Runa Magnusdottir [43:11]
that that’s how you see your boss.
David Ralph [43:16]
Get to the dark side rude. And you say you take me. I can now see my powers being used for evil.
Runa Magnusdottir [43:25]
Oh, again, that’s your mindset. That’s your choice. So how is that serving you?
David Ralph [43:32]
It’d be fun. No, for a couple of days, wouldn’t it?
Runa Magnusdottir [43:35]
Well, I’m not gonna I’m not gonna say a word now because I might be prosecuted.
David Ralph [43:42]
Now. No one listens to this rubbish anyway.
Runa Magnusdottir [43:45]
Oh, yeah, exactly.
David Ralph [43:48]
This is one of those those hidden things. It’s like a secret. Nope. Nobody really listens to it. So one of the things that amazes me whip you ruin and not just you, but the world anyway, is how brilliant you speak English. Now the English people, they seem to create a box anyway, of their own sort of vocabulary. It’s like I you know, I can barely speak a word of anything other than English. But there you are speaking so fluently, I forget that you’re sort of Icelandic, you know, it’s not another box, are we doing a few broken down that box of sort of understanding cultures and stuff better than we do?
Runa Magnusdottir [44:31]
I don’t know how well you understand box cultures. So I can’t tell you if I’m better or not. But what I can tell you is it for me, it had a deep effect in my life when I was as a teenager, living in another country in a new family and had to go to a new school system and how it to basically learn the culture from that totally new place for in my life. And that had a huge effect on me. And that made me realize that my the, my, my offering in my country, my my background, is just my box. And there are so many other beautiful boxes out there. And it made me curious as well, to see and learn and find out from other people. What what they’re all about, and how their walks looks like and their culture looks like. And so culture for me. The word culture is very quickly in my life, I learned there is no right culture, and there is no wrong culture. There is just a culture.
David Ralph [45:48]
Well, that’s good, again, is good, isn’t it? And you’re inspiring in so many ways. I wonder why it’s taken me four years to get you back on to the show.
Runa Magnusdottir [45:57]
What why why can’t understand why?
David Ralph [46:00]
Why am I played hard to get? Yeah, I don’t know. Before we bring you on to debate the week hold a sermon on the mic, when we send you back in time to have a one on one with the version you last word main 2015. What’s moving forward, as you’re sitting here talking to me, and you’ve got your servants running around cleaning for you, and everything’s great in your life. What’s the next box that you will have a smashing down or your building moving forward for you?
Runa Magnusdottir [46:33]
I seriously want to be too offered my strength and my ability and the ability that we have, as the change makers, the group of international thought leaders that I founded back in 2017, I seriously want us to be able to help people to create safe space for deep dialogue that would will open up their boxes and do that in a way that everyone feels that they are safe doing that in a way that everyone feels that they they are included doing it in a way that everyone feels that they are part of the creation of the culture, whether it’s the company culture, or the community culture, or the family culture, or whatever culture that is that they want to live in, so that every single person can understand to the core of them, that they can become the change that they want to see in their world. That’s what I want to do. And my next step in that is to be able to offered online training both online and offline training, helping people teaching them how do you how do you create your own Breakfast Club? Where you you know, and facilitate deep conversations about gender as an example? How do you do that in a way that everyone feels that they are included in the conversation? Everyone feels that and understands that? It’s just a box? And you have you can choose? Are you going to stay in that box? Or are you going to leave that box? Or are you going to love that box? Like I said earlier, those three things? That’s what I want to do. And I absolutely, I am so determined to do this, you have no idea how
David Ralph [48:36]
I, I’ve got a bloody good idea that you
Runa Magnusdottir [48:40]
have no idea how I’m going to do this, because this is this costs quite a bit, I have absolutely no idea how I’m going to do that. I’m just determined, I’m gonna do it. And I’m asking, I’m asking people who understand this, I’m asking people who will want to see the world different, who want to have fun doing this, because this should be funny, you should be able to laugh at your boxes, you should be able to make it in a playful way. I’m inviting them to contact me to be part of this to to step in their own, you know, look at their own boxes and to see how ridiculous they are because they are ridiculous. And it’s when we understand how how, what a funny creatures we all are and that we can do something about it. Yeah, that is a world that I want to create.
David Ralph [49:32]
I agree with you totally. And it’s been so inspiring to listen to you, and your passions. And just here, you are a totally different person from the last time it was almost like you had one leg where you want it to go. But now you’re leaping in with it’s raining men blasting around you. So yes, inspiration of bounds. Thank you so much room. Well, this is the bit of the show now that we we’ve already taken you down this path before back in 2015. This time, we’re going to send you back on the journey to the last time he was on the show just four years ago. So if you could go back in time and speak to the younger ruler, what age and what advice would you give away, we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the music. And when it fades you up, this is the Sermon on the mic.
Runa Magnusdottir [50:48]
Do you know you are going to be speaking and on places to people that at this time in your life, you would not think you would ever be able to access you can do that. Because you have tapped into who you really are and what you really are doing on this planet. And if there’s anything that I can tell you is to just remember, make it playful, make it fun, make it irresistible, attractive, and make it sustainable, so that everyone can feel that they are part of the big solution. And once you’re there, there are people out there who share the same passion as you who do want to see the world a better place and they want to have fun creating a better place.
David Ralph [51:55]
powerful stuff. So Luna, but the audience have been listening what’s the number one best way that they can connect with you?
Runa Magnusdottir [52:03]
Well, they I think the best way is to look at me on the social media you can find me my handle is Rona Magnus on most social media, except Facebook, you will find Rona Magnus official as my official Facebook page.
And Rhonda McMaster com
David Ralph [52:22]
right where I have all the links on the show notes row now thank you so much for spending time with us today joining up those dots and please come back again when you add more dots to join up as I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures room now. Don’t leave it so long next time
Runa Magnusdottir [52:43]
thank you David likewise
David Ralph [52:46]
Runa Magnusdottir, interesting that one because I realized that she was saying and she you know, she slapped me down. But my my story about school was so boring. So that why I accepted boring jobs for so many years. Yeah, it was just a story. And really what was the difference between me and God or wherever she was a who was sitting next to me. I need to I need to go back and listen to that podcast because even the most motivational people sometimes need to reflect on their own life and think to themselves, am I actually doing what I say I’m doing or am I just kind of playing at doing that it’s all or nothing you’ve got to be in this position to really push forward. And the easier it becomes is when you really do to pushing and you sort of move forward. I’m not convinced at being totally transparent. I am 100% in on some of this. I think that I’ve been talking about it but I think I need to reflect on my boxes and the ones that I’ve allowed to restrain me somehow let’s go let’s go and hopefully you will meet me at the end. Well thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for everyone listen to join up dots if you want to change your life and be part of the new brigade who can travel the world earning money living a life of your dreams exactly like I’m doing and rune is doing and everybody else as on them always saying I do a monthly training course where I will show you exactly a steps that you can take to create your own online business that you can then develop and turn into whatever you want to do multi six figure business or whatever just like join up dots Bella come over to join up dots and you’ll see the link to connect halfway down the page. But until next time, I will be waiting for you thank you so much for being here. That was rumor I was David and that was join up dots See ya. Bye bye
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