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Introducing Ryan Dylan Moran
He is a man who believes that we should all have freedom in our life, and most importantly can show us how to do it!
He has become one of the most sought after speakers and thought leaders on this subject in the world.
But how has he done this?
How has he designed his life, so that he can focus in on the things that light him up inside.
Instead of getting wrapped up in the things that don’t.
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Well he specializes in creating extremely profitable cash flow streams and businesses that work without compromising your lifestyle.
He ensures that he has the cash flowing, which then allows the choices that make up a life of freedom.
And doesn’t that sound good?
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs with the one and only Mr Ryan Daniel Moran
During the show we discussed such weighty topics with Ryan Dylan Moran such as:
How he shut down a business, which was earning good money due to it not aligning to his true passions!
The truth of the Jim Rhon quote “We are compensated for the value we bring to the market place”
How happiness is the comparison between expectations to results!
How we should constantly audit our life and work on alleviating the things that we dislike from our daily actions!
How we realised that all body hairs grow from the toes, which proves why bald men have hairy bodies!
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Audio Transcription Of Ryan Dylan Moran Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, good morning to your world. How are we Oh, I hope you’re all rocking and rolling, and you’re enjoying life, because that’s what life is all about. We are going to inspire you big time today, because we have got a chap on the show who I actually wanted. Really, before the show was even a thought in my head. He was a name that I wanted to get on the show. Because he’s a boss, he’s his work ethic really ties into what I would like to do with my life, and what so many of you listening want to do with your life. He’s a man who believes that we should all have freedom in our life, and most importantly, can show us how to do it. He’s become one of the most sought after speakers and thought leaders on this subject in the world. But how has he done this? How has he created freedom? How is he designed his life so that he can focus in on the things that light him up inside? Instead of getting wrapped up in the things that don’t? Well, he specialises in creating extremely profitable cash flow streams and businesses that work without compromising your lifestyle, he ensures that he has the cash flowing, which then allows the choices that make up a life of freedom. And doesn’t that sound good? So let’s get on to the show to start joining the dots of his life so we can go back to his life of freedom. The one and only Mr. Ryan, Daniel Moran. How are you Ryan?
Ryan Dylan Moran [1:41]
David, thanks so much for having me, man.
David Ralph [1:43]
Its lovely to have you on. And as I was saying, it’s been a little bit of a search and adventure sort of the laassoing you onto the show at last because you have been on my radar for for many moons, it’s like one of the first names that I sort of reached out to. So thank you so much for being on.
Ryan Dylan Moran [2:00]
Well, I like to be elusive David. So you know, you know what they say in dating, you know, never let them have too much. So, you know, I just try to try to distance myself so that you want me even more, David that that was the intention there.
David Ralph [2:12]
So it’s going to be like speed dating, don’t do that to sort of really seduce you in a very short period of time.
Ryan Dylan Moran [2:18]
That’s it? Well, I mean, we have different accents. So I think there’s already a connexion here. So that’s coming loud and clear to your listeners. Well,
David Ralph [2:25]
you’ve got very deep manly voice and have you have you always had that big Bonnie, manly voice even when he was a small child?
Ryan Dylan Moran [2:33]
Yes. Oh, when I came out of the womb, I said to the doctor, he spanked me and I was like, I’m Excuse me, please don’t touch me there. So yes, my whole life.
David Ralph [2:42]
And was it something that sort of set you apart when he was at school? Because when I went through school, there was that kind of embarrassing bit when people’s bodies were changing. And you would sort of go into the changing rooms for sort of as we call it, p i suppose you call it sports or whatever. And there’ll be some kids who like full grown men, and then there was others who were like small children. And I was like a kind of Asian girl. Basically, I hadn’t hit any of the points in any shape, or form. And so were you one of these annoyingly hairy, deep voice kids, when you were like 12 year old that I would have hate.
Ryan Dylan Moran [3:20]
I’ve never been asked this on a podcast before.
David Ralph [3:23]
in different areas.
Ryan Dylan Moran [3:24]
We’re going in all kinds of weird places. I was I was a late bloomer, actually. But I think I hit 13. And hair just appeared everywhere on my body. So I have I’m known for my beard, my ability to grow, I can turn around and have it have a full beard, David. So I was a late bloomer, but I think I made up for lost time.
David Ralph [3:46]
That doesn’t my issue while we’re on these weird subject, because if
Ryan Dylan Moran [3:49]
we’re talking about puberty, what else he
David Ralph [3:52]
and and I’m always amazed that bald men are incredibly heavy on their bodies. And I’ve got this fear, Miss Mr. Moran, and I’m going to share this very with you is
Unknown Speaker [4:02]
always do, David,
David Ralph [4:05]
I think, and this is going to be absolutely spot on. So you will get doctors owning you up saying Yes, he’s right. Goodness, he is absolutely right. I think all your hair grows from your feet. And so it shoots up through your body. And the people that have hair flowing from their head big time, are generally free from hair on their body. But the ones where we sprout out the hair kind of gives up the fight and goes, I can’t be bothered to get to the head. I just come out here. So I think all the hair comes from the bottom. And that’s why board people are naturally like bears. And hairy head people are absolutely clean shaven.
Ryan Dylan Moran [4:43]
Well, that is bad news for me, David because that means I have a very bald future. But while we’re talking about about this, I actually traced my Gino type in high school and found out that I’m probably not going to be bald. So that I might be a wrench in your theory, but we won’t find out from for another two decades or so.
David Ralph [5:01]
And I can always edit you out anyway. So that makes no no difference to my theory at all. It’s still going to go out there and people are going to be talking about this for years, I promise you is the way to go. But you you have you have really cutting to the chase, you’ve got one of those lives back. It’s kind of perfect, isn’t it in today’s day and age when we’re all sitting on buses and trains and we’re going to jobs that we don’t like because it’s a job. And we’re justifying our time in the office more than the work making us want to be there. You’ve got a life of freedom, and it is one of those annoying lives that I look at. And I go, why not me? Why not me?
Ryan Dylan Moran [5:46]
Well, David, I believe that we’re all creating our lives in a constant basis. Like we all have the ability to design our lives, we’re all doing it all the time. I mean, I like to say that we are constantly choosing content, suddenly, we are choosing to continue things going on in our life or to do something differently. So if you are in a relationship that doesn’t serve you, but you continue to choose that, that is what you’ve chosen, if you’re in a job that you hate you we are constantly, we’re constantly choosing that I was, I was trying to date this girl once, who was in a nine to five job and she was like, Look, not everybody can just pick up and leave and do what you do. And I was like, Well, sure you can everybody can you just choose not to, which is it’s true. everything that we’re doing, we’re constantly choosing. So I believe that if we want to make changes in our life, all we have to do is choose differently. And if we look at it that way, there’s some freedom in it, you don’t have to do anything that you don’t want to do. And you can do whatever you do want to do, it’s just a matter of choice. And if something doesn’t serve you, all we have to do is choose differently. So I have been intentional about what I am choosing. And there are things that I choose things that I do not choose. And as a result, I live a life that I’ve chosen, I’ve, I’ve created a life that I have designed, and we’re all doing it. We’re all living a life that we’ve designed. And we’ve designed it, you know, based on our experiences and opportunities that come our way, but we were all designing the type of lifestyle that we want. We all have that ability. So when you say I have this perfect life, I kind of giggle because it’s just the one I’ve designed, whereas everyone is living the life that they have designed. And if they want to see change, all we have to do is design it differently.
David Ralph [7:36]
I agree with that. Totally, absolutely. 100% you are preaching to the converted, but that girl who you were dating, are you still dating her? Now?
Ryan Dylan Moran [7:45]
I’m not I’m not that was a couple years ago.
David Ralph [7:48]
Because that kind of comment. I know. Because I say those same things to my wife would have annoyed that they’ll big time. Because people can’t see that they can create that reality until they actually start doing it. Can they? You see it time and time again where people go, I can’t do this. Because of that. I can’t do that. And so when you’re saying what you said to her, you’re choosing not to do it. Although it’s absolutely true. I bet she got wound up by it.
Ryan Dylan Moran [8:15]
Oh, yeah, she was super annoyed. That’s why I’m no longer dating her, David.
That in the excessive hair, I but what I was trying to communicate to her was that is that she’s making choices. And it was fine for her to make that choice for her to be in a steady nine to five job. I just wanted her to see that that’s what she was choosing. And she got that. But when I said when she said, You’re not everybody can up and leave and travel like you do. It was very important to call out the fact that she was wrong. Yeah, anybody can. It’s just a matter of what things you’re choosing. And some people choose security instead of freedom, which I think is a totally backwards way to think about it. Because security is not a real thing. There’s no such thing as security. But people choose security over happiness over freedom. In fact, I read a statistic recently that said that, that most people when asked would choose secure over happiness, they would rather be secure, financially secure than happy. Well, I mean, there’s there’s you don’t have to choose one or the other. But most people pursue this thing called security. And it’s not a real thing. So they never find it. And those who pursue security never find it. But those who pursue opportunity and freedom, get both. And I really want people to see that they’re responsible for the results that open their lives. And in order to get different results. All we have to do is plant new seeds. We just have to we just have to design things differently. We get different results.
David Ralph [9:51]
I’m yeah, I’m totally onto that totally on to that. When was this? This for this realisation? Come? When did it come to you? Has it always been there? Have you always been somebody that’s gone? Yes, I can create my own reality. Because most of us growing up, we get sucked into a path of other people’s making. And we go into jobs because we think it’s the job for us. Even though it doesn’t naturally play to our strengths. Were you different from that Have you always you know, put the shots in your own life.
Ryan Dylan Moran [10:20]
You know, I knew I always wanted to call the shots in my own life. And even when I was a kid, rather than going to parties and like doing things that all the cool kids did, I was reading real estate, investment books and business books. In my free time. That’s what I did for fun. But I didn’t really quite fully get this concept. Until I was 22 years old, I went through a really difficult time. And in that time, my business starting started to suffer, my relationship suffered, my physical health suffered. And I realised that I had spent all this time trying to build this lifestyle that thought once I had it would be perfect. I thought once I had freedom, then everything would be fun and easy. So I became obsessed, obsessed with ways that you could earn an income without having to trade your hours for dollars. But what really happened was that I became a slave to trying to grow and earn more and more and more and more, without ever answering the question of what do I want my life to look like? And without answering that question, then you’re always a slave. If you don’t, if you don’t have an idea of what you want your life to look like, then you are a slave to trying to build a vision that doesn’t exist, you are serving a master that does not exist. And as a result of going through that process I you know, I after going through a bout a year and a half of being depressed, unhappy out of shape, and bored. I realised that I had just done designed this lifestyle for myself without having an idea of what I really wanted it to look like. So it was then that I became intentional about designing things differently. And I started to really understand how life and happiness work. So no, I was not always that way it took going through a hard road in order to get there.
David Ralph [12:19]
So what was it about your life that was going, as we say, in the United Kingdom, pear shaped back in those days when I was it not going on the path that you want to and your physique and your health and all those things was suffering at one time? Can you pinpoint any of that?
Ryan Dylan Moran [12:35]
I think it was a mindset thing where I thought that once I reached a certain point, once I reached a certain level, then I would be happy I would be fit I would be it would be complete, I would have this, I’d have this perfect life that we existed in my mind. And I realised that that doesn’t exist unless you create it, you know, nobody just magically gets what they want, they have to go earn it, they have to first be very clear about what it is they want. And then design a lifestyle that supports them being able to get it and I just did not do a good job of really defining what it is that I wanted. And what really excited me and I had to become really intentional about having that in place and being able to work towards that.
David Ralph [13:29]
And how do you do that? Because the tackling to the show. And this is a theme that I talk about all the time, because it fascinates me this does. And it wasn’t part of the show when it started. But after 150 shows, it seems to be almost a truth running through all of them, that most people who are looking for this passion, where they say find your passion, you find your passion, and you’ll never work again, will pretty much want to punch you in the face because I can’t see the passion. And right only when you find you will find it, I’ll just show it to me, and they can’t quite get it. Now, it seems to me from talking to so many people, that the real passion in life is the things that you would do if you weren’t being paid for it. And if we look back to the time when we weren’t being paid for anything that was generally when we were a child. And so if you look back to your younger self, the things that you did when you ran home from school and you laid on the sofa, drawing or writing or reading or building or whatever, you can take back to where you are now. So it seems to me and I’m only guessing a bit. But from listening to you, one of the things that you liked to do was build stuff. And now you are building a life of freedom and you’re designing things would that be kind of true? Were you one of those kids that like to use Lego bricks and those kind of things as a kid,
Ryan Dylan Moran [14:50]
I actually was not. I I ran away from building things. I even as a kid it that manifests itself today because I I can’t even screw in a light bulb. I don’t know how to do that. So no, I was not one of those kids. I was one of those kids that was more interested in ideas. I wanted to talk about ideas I wanted to talk about, about concepts, I was a deep thinker right out of the womb. So the idea of building businesses was was exciting to me because it all existed. I got to create it in my head, I was a creator, not a builder, I was a thinker, not a builder. I do appreciate your point about you know, most people who who don’t know what their passion is, want to punch everybody in the face who says your just follow your passion because I have struggled with that myself. And I found that you know, I don’t have one all consuming, all consuming passion that I want to do all the time. And in fact, I’m very jealous of those people who have that one thing that they just want to surf all day or they just want to snowboard all day or, or they just want to do stand up comedy all day or whatever it is I don’t I don’t have that I more have things that I’m really strongly interested in, that I participate in as much as possible. And that’s what makes me feel alive. That’s what makes me feel energised. But I don’t have an all consuming passion, I’m more in line with what Tim Ferriss says about life is not about being safe, it’s about being able to be free to do what excites you. And that will change about every six months. So I personally have to be very intentional about putting things in my life that really excite me and to be consistently focused on growth. I think that there might be and this is just me speculating, I don’t have any data to back this up. But I there might be two different types of people, people who have passions that they just want to do all day. And then growth minded people, US growth minded people that would be me tend to get bored with doing just one thing for the rest of their lives, that that doesn’t sound so good. We want to be growing and expanding and trying new things and testing the waters and, and charting new territories and doing all this, that’s me. And then there’s people who just want to do one thing all day and have their lives paid for so that they can serve. And both are fine. But I think there’s a lot of people who try to peddle this idea of follow your passion, follow that one thing, whereas maybe half the world doesn’t think that way. We want to be growth minded. So for those people, I say, we just got to get started in a direction in any direction, craft up the life that you want to live, let’s start moving in a direction for a business that pays for that type of a life. And then other stuff is going to come up six months from now your life is going to be completely different. Because you’ll have been have moved into a new direction, you have new people in your life, you’ll have new opportunities coming up. And I don’t think, you know, I, I resonate with your idea of, of this idea of following your passion being a little bit overblown.
David Ralph [17:57]
I still think though, that you somebody, you know, when you as a kid, you you as a deep thinker, and a deep voice child. And now you’re pretty much exactly the same. You’re still you know, looking for those things, and you can hear it in your voice. It’s it’s the kind of the abstract side of life that that appeals to you more than the structure.
Ryan Dylan Moran [18:19]
Sure, that’s absolutely true. And if your point is that you we tend to be an expansion of those things that drove us as kids, I will agree with you on this 100%. Good. I’ve got
David Ralph [18:33]
Yeah, I’ve got Yeah, I’m the host and I swung you in my way. That’s what it’s all about. And I wish I would have taken the next 45 minutes to get my point on that one, that that would have been the end of the show. So
Ryan Dylan Moran [18:46]
now on I just agree with you on everything. That’s why
David Ralph [18:49]
we do it. That’s the cold marriage. No, actually, that’s that’s probably well let this play a little speech. And this is for something that I’ve been throwing on to the show recently. And I love this and I just want to get your spin on it. This is something that Jim Carrey said recently, and you probably have heard it. And it’s gone viral, because you kind of don’t expect Jim Carrey to say these kind of things. And when I first heard it, I thought, I’m having this. And I’m going to put this on the show because it really says what I want the world to understand. And I want Ryan Daniel Moran to really listen to this and give his feelings on it. So this is Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey [19:23]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [19:49]
Isn’t that powerful?
Ryan Dylan Moran [19:51]
Beautiful? That is beautiful. I mean, I couldn’t agree more. I think the thing that holds people back from taking a chance on what they do love is this idea of security, this this idea that at some point, they will have reached a level in which they are there, they’re now safe, they’re now secure. And we’ve shown psychologically that that that line just moves, you know, you can have a million dollars in the bank and still feel unsafe. Nobody, nobody wants a million dollars in the bank, they want the emotions that come with that. And I think that one of the ways that we can solve this problem is if we just were able to unhook this connexion between the amount that we work, and the amount that we think that we’re worth, meaning I think if we were able to untie this connexion of our hours trading our hours for dollars, then we can start to see we start to see the matrix, right, we start to see the light, we start to see the world for what it really is, which is that we’re constantly creating our lives. And I call this doing it through a freedom business of income stream or business that is not tied to the amount of hours that you put into it. And if we’re able to, to flip the script and unhook this connexion between how hard we work and how much money we make, then all of a sudden, we realised that we can have opportunity and security and do the things that we want to do, going after the things that we love, and not have to worry about it making the conservative choice as Jim Carrey put it,
David Ralph [21:34]
that’s an amazing point. And I was trapped in that the years and years and years, especially when I was working up in the City of London. And I was doing a job. But basically, I went there and I did nothing. But I earned an awful lot of money. And I started to sort now I look back on it, I started to self sabotage because I couldn’t justify why I was earning this money. So basically, I was going out lunchtime and getting drunk Lankan stuff and men coming back and doing my work. And I look back on it. I think that’s so unprofessional. Why was I doing there? And now because I’m doing these shows on a daily basis, and I hear the same kind of commonalities. I think it was just I couldn’t get it in my head. But I were paying me this money to do nothing, really. And now I’m doing this, which but so many people would say he’s still doing nothing. He’s just having a conversation on the mind. But it’s it’s a different kind of mindset. Now I think to myself, yeah. If this brought me in at squarely and pound a day, because I’m providing this content, I would just think well Bring it on, bring it on, I don’t mind that I will do this content type McWilliam pound, and I will go down and sit in the garden for a while a little bit later and just sort of count my money. It’s a total mindset and your your theories all the way along all time to mindset. And now beliefs that have been programmed into us from God knows when by our mums and dads who didn’t have the opportunities of us. So they had to go to work, they didn’t have the ability to create income streams, but work when we’re asleep like we have. But we’re still trained into that nine to five, nine to five, nine to five, get on the train, get home couple of hours sleep go to bed nine to five, nine to five. And it’s just madness, isn’t it?
Ryan Dylan Moran [23:19]
I think it is madness, especially as when the opportunities to do something differently, are so dang abundant. I mean, the the opportunities and the income streams that are everywhere. I mean, we just just open up your eyes and see them. And we realise that we don’t have to go down that path at all, we don’t have to do that. That whole experience that you just laid out all we have to do is create value. I believe that Jim Rome is right when he says that we are compensated for the value that we bring to the marketplace. Now it can take time to provide value. But we’re not compensated for the time, we’re compensated for the value that we bring to the marketplace. And I would go one step further. And I would say it feels good to provide value to the marketplace. It feels good to operate from a place of contribution. So if we were simply to ask a better question, and ask how do I provide value to the marketplace around this area that I am excited about or interested in or passionate about, then we have a completely different conversation happening, we just asked a little bit of a better question. And the opportunities today with things like this thing called the internet, make it possible for you to create value around any topic or interest without you having to sacrifice security. And without you having to trade your opportunity for something that you might view as more comfortable. I think the only thing that allows you to be safe is when you can know that you can continue to provide value, no matter what life throws at you. And if you start to train your brain to look for opportunities to provide value, you will always have opportunity, you will always have security and you always be free to pursue the things that you actually love.
David Ralph [25:25]
So if somebody’s sitting listening to this conversation, and they are inspired to take control of their life, they’re listening to you and listening to me, they’re listening to all the other Join Up Dots episodes, how what’s what’s the best way for them to start going about it. Because you know, if I have been in the rat race for years and years and years, they want to do something new. But for many people, they think it’s too late, which I keep on saying it’s never too late, as it’s never too early, I’ve been having chats with people who are like seven years old and creating their first business, you know, unbelievable, how, what’s the best way for them to actually D, loosen that soda mad that’s around them that’s holding them into a position and break free from those limiting mindsets,
Ryan Dylan Moran [26:08]
I’m actually going to address the person who thinks that it’s too late. Because I I think that the the older generation, if you will, my generation kind of gets that there’s stuff you can do outside of a nine to five, that we’re starting to get that that that change is already happening for people who are not in my generation, actually think they have an advantage. They just need to have their eyes open to bit. The reason they have an advantage is because they’re more valuable to the marketplace. The people and people in my generation don’t have 20 years of skill sets built up. People in my parents generation have 2530 years of experience contributing value to a marketplace. So I would just encourage them to ask the question, Where is the majority of your value coming from? where’s where’s the value that you put into the marketplace? Where Where is that stemming from? For people who have been in the corporate world, they’re paying you for something they’re paying you for some value that you’re bringing to the marketplace? So what is that value? And if you were to only focus on that, or if you’re able to tie that skill or that ability into a industry that you actually enjoy? Now you’re able to think about, okay, how do I provide value into the marketplace, while also focusing on something that I actually enjoy. So again, I, I’m belabouring the point I’m beating this dead horse mercilessly, but the if we can train our brains to start to look for opportunities to provide value, then we’ll always have opportunity and will always have the ability to follow what we love.
David Ralph [27:54]
Here, here, here, here. So let’s take us back in time, because I’m fascinated, I’ve been doing a bit of talking about you. And there’s certain things that kind of fascinate me, one of the things was your sort of improv, you were into that sort of improvisational kind of world when you was in your business world as well. And it seems like one was an escape from the other. Well, is that true? Or am I sort of simplifying it?
Ryan Dylan Moran [28:19]
Huh? Yeah, so that might have been true four or five years ago for me. For me now, I I believe more in integrating life. So so from for me, I know that I feel most alive when I am up on a stage. I know that. So about a year and a half ago, I shut down a business that didn’t allow me to spend time doing what I liked. I was doing mostly stuff I hated doing. And life’s too short for that, you know, we’re all going to die one day, so we don’t have time to do stuff that we don’t like doing. So I shut that business down. And I started new income streams and new activities that allowed me to be fuller expression of myself. So when I do things like improv, or when I speak to a group of 3000, Amazon sellers like I did this past weekend, or when I put up a video on YouTube and send it out to my subscriber list, they’re all fueling that same desire in myself, to be up in front of people to be extroverted to be providing value. All of those are serving that same desire, even if they are done a little bit differently, or they serve a slightly different audience. So in my business, I know that I provide the most value when I am creating, and when I am talking in a public forum, like what we’re doing right now. And so I know that I only need to focus on that and everything else can be outsourced, or everything else comes secondary. So I’m able to run a business. That isn’t all about me. But I think I get to do it in a way where I’m focusing on the things that make me feel build up. And I think that gets lost a little bit when people start to start to create their own businesses, where they take out of the question, Where do they provide the most value. And all of a sudden, they start doing things for money, which is the reason they left the corporate world in the first place, they left the paycheck because they didn’t want to be tied to somebody else’s, somebody else’s dime. But now we’ve traded it. Now we’re running businesses that don’t make us feel fulfilled. So I think, unless we are intentional about focusing on the things that we are providing value and things that we do that actually light us up, then it’s easy to lose that.
David Ralph [30:45]
And so so with you designing your own life and your life of freedom, why did you design a business which you ultimately didn’t like?
Ryan Dylan Moran [30:54]
Well, I again, this was a few years ago. And I demanded the I was not intentional, the I learned these lessons as a result of making a whole lot of mistakes. And one of those mistakes, what was the result of you in choosing the money choosing the security, over the opportunity and, and things that I actually enjoy. And it took a lot of self reflection to shut down a business that I had so much invested in, and was making so much profit from. But I ultimately did that because I was not finding enjoyment or passion or fulfilment in that. But most importantly, I didn’t feel like I was providing my most value. And again, it feels good to provide value. So I shut that down and took life in a different direction.
David Ralph [31:46]
I love talking to you because it’s like, it’s like listening to a deep voice Yoda kind of thing. Where? Yeah, we must have done very good. Thank you. I’ve been practising. It was supposed to Scooby Doo, but hey, we’re with let that go. But um, yeah, there’s so much kind of knowledge built up in your young body. I assume you’ve got a young buddy, I’m on Skype. So I don’t know. But is that something that has been built up by sort of knocks and falls and stumbles and successes? Or is it kind of something that’s always been there? Have you taken a lot of that sort of knowledge from your parents and your, your peer group growing up? Or is it just by by the sort of life that you’ve LED,
Ryan Dylan Moran [32:29]
knocks and falls, they are knocks and falls? They were? Yes. There’s the boys Yoda. That’s gonna be
David Ralph [32:37]
tone from now? Well,
Ryan Dylan Moran [32:40]
I I think I think that a lot of that has come from just making incredibly difficult mistakes. And if you want to live an extraordinary life, then it is not safe, you will get bumps and bruises and hurts along the way it’s part of the ride, you don’t, you don’t learn to ride a bike without scraping your knee. Now you can choose not to ride the bike. Or you can learn to ride the bike, and know that it’s going to hurt every once in a while, you know, I water ski. And I didn’t learn to water ski. without falling, you’re going to fall. Now I could stay in the boat and not learn to water ski. Or I can water ski knowing that there’s going to be bumps and bruises along the way. living an extraordinary life is exactly the same. starting a business is exactly the same, you are going to make mistakes, you are going to look back and go I was an idiot, you know, dating is this way. Dating is hard because people get hurt and people get emotional. But you could be alone for the rest of your life. Or you could get into the game knowing that there’s going to be times when you get beat up and spit on and feel like hell. It is like that with anything that is worthwhile. The goal in life is not to be safe. It’s the biggest lie that we have is the biggest lie that we built for ourselves in society, which I think which is why I think it is a total travesty that we have a trend in government right now built to try and keep us more and more safe. And I don’t mean safe from outside attackers or safe from intruders. I mean safe, financially safe economically, it’s not the point of life, the point of life is to do what excites you, and to contribute, and to experience and to appreciate your own existence. And we don’t get that by being comfortable. We get that by making a whole bunch mistakes. So we know what to do the next time.
David Ralph [35:03]
So you’ve been pushing the envelope for you know, last 10 1520 years or whatever, you know, as you progress through. Have you got any sort of points, we call it the Big Dot? When you look back? And you kind of go Yes, yes, I can really see where Ryan started to become who ease now, it was probably a really bad time in your life, or the generally the big ties up, I’ve had conversations with people that have said to me, You know, I was in a car and I was just about to commit suicide. And for some reason, I changed my mind. And I say to them, was that your big dog? And I say yes, not only was it a big dog, but it was my best and worst day ever. My worst day because I got to that lowest point but my best day because I’ve been on the app since then. And people can pinpoint those. Have you got any? You know, I wouldn’t want to sort of say, Have you ever been in a car trying to commit suicide? But have you got these kind of moments that you look back? And you go, yeah, that was a really terrible time in my life. But thank God for that. Now with hindsight, that was the making of me.
Ryan Dylan Moran [36:02]
Oh, 100%. And mine wasn’t a moment or a specific day. It was but it was a time period. It was time period about four years ago were Yeah. It I didn’t know I didn’t know if I could go on. You know, I felt as though I had, I felt like the world’s biggest failure at 22 years old with a quarter million dollars in the bank, I felt like I was just this ultimate failure. And everybody looked at my situation and was like, What the hell is wrong with you and you have money in the bank? You are in a great relationship. You had this deep, unbelievable voice. And you got all this body hair? Like what why are you Why are you? Why does do you think that you’re a failure. And I think because I’m not happy. I’m just so unhappy. I am I am so completely exhausted. By being this unhappy, I am so lonely. I am so out of shape. I am I feel like a zero. And that was very difficult to go through that time, and also the most self enlightening process you could possibly imagine for for becoming the person that I am today. So it wasn’t one moment. It was a difficult time period. But I think it is very rare, that that level of self awareness comes outside of a time of great pain, I think you have to go through a time of great pain in order to become self aware enough to really live an extraordinary life.
David Ralph [37:40]
Because I never had a true pain in my life. And I’ve really have loaded like a twig on the mighty stream of life through just good times, basically. And even when I look back on it, and I go, yeah, that was a bit rubbish. It wasn’t really compared to other people, it was just you know, I didn’t have any sort of benchmark about What rubbish was. So I’ve been very, very fortunate. And I think in my sort of side, one of the things that I’m doing here, I’m becoming more aware for other people, I’m hearing their storeys. And that is, that’s, that’s pushing me on to create this world for myself this life, which I don’t think if I wasn’t having these conversations I would have been able to do, because I couldn’t see the possibilities that are out there. I never, I’ve never hit bottom.
Ryan Dylan Moran [38:27]
Well, you brought up an interesting thing, which is that you’re having a similar shift as a result of listening to other people. And science actually confirms that that can happen. Because there’s this biological hack, which is that we are constantly comparing ourselves to the people around us. So if you want to get in shape, one of the best things that you can do is just hang around people who are in really, really good shape. If you want to get out of shape, the fastest way to do that is hang around people who are really out of shape. You know, eating, eating cheese fries is a lot easier when you’re hanging around people who are eating cheese fries all the time. And eating kale is a lot easier when you’re around people who are eating kale all the time. So there is actually a biological basis for what you’re talking about. By getting around other people and having different ideas come into our brain, we actually start to adjust, we actually start to turn up the heat door, turn up the air conditioning in our brains, and align with those around us. So by surrounding yourself with people who who are either at the level you’re at, or at the level you want to be or going in that way we can actually biologically train ourselves to follow suit.
David Ralph [39:47]
That’s fascinating, isn’t it? You know, I’m having probably six or seven of these conversations a day, you know, I churn out the shows, because I’ve got a fear, but I’m going to be hit by a bus or something. And then seven days a week show won’t go live. So I like to have them in absorb a big bank ready to go and go live. And every single person is talking. And there’s moments in those conversations about I lead it. But there’s those moments, those gems, when they are sharing something by sharing deep, and it’s those threads are running through, but really pushing me on. And you’re I I just never had that before. Because I was always in an office where you would say to people, you were right. And they would go would be if I wasn’t here, or Oh, I’d be all white when it’s Friday. And yeah, if I paid me more money, and it was that kind of negative vibe around you, even though I’ve naturally been a positive person. But in this world, this recording studio that I’ve set up where I’m talking to you guys, I’ve never had one person in any show that has basically said, Yes, life is rubbish, and I hate being on this show. And you’re rubbish and everything’s rubbish, it just doesn’t happen. So it’s kind of pushing me on is pushing me on to sort of create this amazing life of myself, we just couldn’t have been done. And I know it couldn’t been done. So I’m incredibly grateful that I’m able to have these conversations. And I’m incredibly grateful that you confirm what I feel is going on in the at the moment, but I couldn’t quite understand it.
Ryan Dylan Moran [41:14]
Yet, you’re having your barometer reset a bit, you’re starting to see what’s possible, you’re starting to compare yourself and your experience against something different. Now, that’s all our brains know how to do is compare, I mean, what is what is success? Whatever you’re comparing it to? What is fit? Well, whatever you’re comparing it to. It would they’re all constructs in our brain. They’re all it’s all the brain knows how to do. In fact, they did a study on happiness. And they found that all that happiness is, is the difference between your expectation and your reality. It’s a comparison. You know, the guy who gets second place in the Olympics, most people would say, Wow, what an incredible experience, what incredible accomplishment, but his whole life, he’s compared himself against people who are gold medal winners, he’s going to be pretty disappointed. He won’t be happy with that. So that all our brains know how to do is compare. So what’s happening with you is your brain is starting to compare itself differently. Biologically, there’s a change going on. Because you’re starting to reset what you were traditionally comparing yourself to on a regular basis. It used to be you were the happiest guy in the office. So you must be happy. Today, you’re starting to think. And I was in the corporate world for this long as all these people doing all these cool things. I guess. I want to make some changes. That’s what’s going on. Because the brain is always making comparisons.
David Ralph [42:40]
Can you see that? When you walk into Starbucks in places, can you see people that you can think, yeah, they’re going through the change? Because I feel like I can now and I can see people like cold springs. And I think, yeah, it’s not going to be long not gonna be long. And when you’re going to have a leap of faith or whatever. And it’s just like, I’ve got different lenses in my eyes. But it’s seeing a world of, I suppose it’s when you say you see opportunities and stuff, which you don’t see previously. But can you can you do the same?
Ryan Dylan Moran [43:08]
I hear it in people’s language. I hear it when people are trying to run towards something that is very elusive. I hear it when people are using words like safe and secure. And I hear it when people are trying to make decisions about something that they think is right in their head, but they don’t really desire it. For example, I had a friend messaged me who was trying to decide if she wants to go to medical school. And she does not want to go to medical school. She does not want to go but she cannot give herself the permission to not go to medical school. And and when I when I hear that type of language I know that somebody’s going to the change but I can’t quite say that I can do it by just looking at people in Starbucks so you might have a gift there David Oh, maybe I’m going slightly insane I don’t know. Could could be it David
David Ralph [44:06]
because I have the one of the things about Starbucks I don’t get is widely asked your name when you go in there now. But what’s all that about?
Ryan Dylan Moran [44:13]
Well, well, funny, funny storey I recently went to Starbucks, and they gave me the I told him my name is Ryan and they wrote on the cup. Are I Why? And who in the world spells Ryan? Are I? Why n? Well, I guess that’s because that’s why that person is not an entrepreneur. I don’t think they’re to be even writing on cups for very much longer
David Ralph [44:35]
because well, well I’ve always wanted to do is go into Starbucks and secretly go up to everyone and go Look, when when when they asked you name just say Spartacus. So when they say is Spartacus, we can go I’m Spartacus and the whole office?
Ryan Dylan Moran [44:48]
kid you not? I have done that. Have you? And I You and I are our twins.
David Ralph [44:53]
We are Yoda first person I thought I’d made bat for myself. So I’m connected by some kind of weird. Hey, we kind of connexion with you. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker [45:06]
Very good. Well, I’ve done it too.
David Ralph [45:08]
So So what was it like when you did that?
Ryan Dylan Moran [45:12]
A very freeing profound experience.
David Ralph [45:16]
Because the other one that I used to do is when I go into McDonald’s, you know, when you sort of order what you want, and then they always ask you if you want anything else. And that always used to sort of wind me up because I used to think No, why wouldn’t I just ask for that? You know, I’d Why wouldn’t I ask for the apple pie if I wanted the apple pie? So I used to say, Well, can I have a Big Mac and fries, please? And I used to say anything else? I’ll go Yeah, completely blank stare, please. And that used to work quite well as well. I got great amusement out of that for many, many years.
Unknown Speaker [45:47]
Did you steal that one for me?
David Ralph [45:48]
Yeah, absolutely. So with you with your life now? Where are you aiming towards? Where are you because as I said at the beginning, and you giggled, it seems like the perfect life. And it seems a life now that you are really enjoying, and you’re doing the things that lights you up inside. So how can you increase button light? What are you aiming for in your life?
Ryan Dylan Moran [46:10]
what I’m aiming for now is to be able to contribute value even more than I already am now. And looking at? How can I spread my message in a way that impacts even more people than it is now? And how can I invest in companies that I believe in so that they can expand even more than I am now? And how can I be involved in passions and things that interests me even more than I am now. And that is? That’s life for me, David? Where it is? How do I continue more of the good stuff, even more than I am now even if it requires taking some risk. And along the way, when certain opportunities come up that I’m really excited about? How do I participate them and play full out? And when changes come? And when winter comes? How do I enjoy the process, even though it’s painful, and it’s difficult. So I don’t think there’s ever a point in which you arrive? I think we’ve we thought we missed the point. If we believe that there’s a there’s a time in which you arrive. I believe more that we are constantly growing. We’re constantly growing, rather than this point where we strive and try and try and then we have arrived. I think there’s only a journey, there is no destination.
David Ralph [47:37]
Let’s play some words that really sort of emphasise is that that logic on that this is Steve Jobs. And you made a speech back in 2005, which is integral to this show, I’m going to play this, and I just want to get your flavour on this. This is Steve Jobs.
Jim Carrey [47:50]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [48:26]
What you get from those words, right?
Ryan Dylan Moran [48:29]
Well, I agree I agree with him, I think we have to have faith in something that it’s going to lead to a better way. Otherwise, we we get lost in the ups and downs that happen every day, I like to say that the longer vision of success that you can have, the more successful you will be. If we look at things like the stock market, the stock market goes up and down every day. But if you’ll get it over 10 years, tends to go up. It’ll get it over 50 years, we haven’t even more successful trend. So I agree with what what Steve says, especially in the sense of if we believe that we are in a constant trend up rather than getting lost in the day to day wins and losses that we put ourselves in the best position to win.
David Ralph [49:19]
And do you have faith in yourself by it is going to come true as he saying you’ve got to have belief you got to have faith you is karma or whatever? Do you see that as as truths in your life as well.
Ryan Dylan Moran [49:31]
You use use the magic word which is faith. If I can dodge your question ever. So strategically, I would say that I have a belief that I’m on a path that continually gravitates up. And that even if today is a down day, I believe that I’m headed in the right direction.
David Ralph [49:52]
How do you know about though is it just is it’s just from experience that you built up and you’ve seen the ups and the downs, and you’ve seen the effort. So you’ve been 13 had worked. And you’ve seen when you haven’t put the efforts in, and you’ve got those rewards that weren’t as good as you you wanted? Is that how you actually know that is on the up?
Ryan Dylan Moran [50:09]
No, I know that because I know that I am constantly improving myself. And I am constantly open to going in new directions when they open up. And I am I believe that I am planting the right seeds. So our life today is just the result of seeds that we planted long ago. So if we want to have different results, all we have to do is plant different seeds. All we have to do is water a deficiency. If you are doing things that you don’t enjoy doing, but you continue to do them, you are watering that seed. It’s not until we stop watering that seed and start watering something else that we can make a change that really benefits us. And you know, we all make the best decisions that we know of the information that we have at the time. And I believe that I continue to acquire more information and continue to work on myself first. And as a result, I’m on a trend.
David Ralph [51:08]
I think you’ve changed my life there. You know, I’m going to look at everything I do and assess what I like doing and what I don’t like doing.
Ryan Dylan Moran [51:15]
It’s gonna be it’s gonna be very obsessive for about the next 24 hours, you’ll be washing your hands. Is this water in the sea that I want to water?
David Ralph [51:24]
Was it was that an English accent you did there, sir.
Ryan Dylan Moran [51:27]
That was that was the best I got.
David Ralph [51:28]
It was pretty good. I recognise that I recognised it did just before we say goodbye to you. I’ve got one question I’m going to hold to just afterwards. But we’re going to send you back on the time or in time like a young Marty McFly. And this is the part of the show we call the Sermon on the mic. And I’m going to play the theme tune and you’re going to be transported back in time. And if you did get the opportunity to have a one on one with the young Ryan, what kind of age would you choose? And what would you say to them. So this is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [52:02]
Here we go. With the best bit of the show.
Ryan Dylan Moran [52:19]
I’m going to address the 18 year old Ryan. Hey, buddy, listen, you are about to embark on an adventure that you can’t quite see right now. And you don’t need to see it right now. And along the way you are going to win in you’re going to incur about every bump in every bruise that you could possibly have. And times you’re going to doubt yourself. Because the world loves to stay in their bubble. And you’re going to try and break out of that bubble and your family is going to question and your friends are going to question and people are always going to wonder what the heck you’re up to. And I just want you to know that you don’t have to compare yourself to them. The only person you have to compare yourself to is the person that you were yesterday. And I don’t mean that in terms of how much money is in the bank. I don’t mean that in terms of how deep your voices. I don’t mean that in terms of what people think of you. I mean that in terms of are you producing more value and impacting more people today than you were yesterday? If the answer is ever No, then it’s time to make a change. It’s also time to make a change. If you ever find yourself continuously dissatisfied with the way that you are spending your time. If you feel that one day, it’s not a big deal. But if you continuously experience that it’s time to make a change. Don’t be afraid to feel the big emotions. And don’t be afraid to take big risks because that’s how you’re going to grow. But remember one thing, relationships are all that matter. Relationships are all that everyone is trying to strive for. You think you want money and influence right now what you really want is deep connexion. You think that you want to be big and important, but what you really want is deep connexion. That’s what we’re all looking for. So give that to people when the opportunities present itself and go continue changing the world. I love you, buddy.
David Ralph [54:29]
I enjoyed that. I listened intently and it’s true is absolutely true. So I hope the young Ryan was listening. How can people connect with you?
Ryan Dylan Moran [54:39]
Yeah, I think the best way for people to connect with me is I have a podcast where I give away all my secrets. We talk about where I’m investing, we’re talking about the businesses that I’m in, we talked about designing your lifestyle, and that’s at Freedom Fast Lane. And the blog is called Freedom Fast Lane calm. And if you like that concept that we talked about, about planting seeds, and continually watering the seeds that are going to produce fruit, then you want to look at the 10 day challenge on Freedom Fast Lane calm. It’s 10 days, do one little thing for 10 days. And as a result, you’ll be watering the seeds that you need to be on the Freedom Fast like
David Ralph [55:18]
Ryan, just before I let you go I at the very first time I came across you was on an episode of Entrepreneur on Fire with the legend but he’s john Lee Dumas. And I remember listening to that. And they’re both both of you were saying that you were going to some kind of seminar or something in the Philippines. And you were going to get him to eat some disgusting, horrible egg or something. Do you remember talking about it? And did you get him to eat this disgusting piece of food?
Ryan Dylan Moran [55:45]
I ran into him and I said, Hey, john, we need to eat a balloon together. And his exact words were that was so long ago. And he never did I ate a balloon. I’ve got video of it. And Dennis did not eat the balloon. He did not eat the pollute.
David Ralph [56:02]
Well, if I ever get on the show, I’m going to bring that up. I’m gonna I’m gonna bring that up in conversation. And I might ask good man, I might actually post in one. Well, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again when you have more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Ryan, Daniel Moran. Thank you so much,
Ryan Dylan Moran [56:25]
David, thanks so much for having me.
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