Shellie Hunt Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Shellie Hunt
Shellie Hunt is todays guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots podcast interview,.
She is a lady who for over 25 years been the go to lady to help companies, individuals and the world find their true path in life.
She is the founder and CEO of Success is by Design, ReMake MY Life LLC, The Women of Global Change, and other multiple companies, and is known to be able to get to the core of an issue, even if it is buried deep inside ourselves.
Shellie Hunt can find the very thing that is limiting us, and holding us back from a life that we deserve.
How The Dots Join Up For Shellie
Sharing the stage with some of the top speakers in the world, and being a lead mentor in the Billionaire Adventure Club, has led her to appear on national talk and radio shows with audiences in the millions and has been mentioned in Forbes.com.
So she is obviously a lady who is massively in demand.
So what makes this lady such a powerhouse in the motivational arena?
Where did Shellie Hunt come from to have such an influence in such a competitive world?
And what tips can we gain from her to assist in our dreams of a life designed by success?
Well lets find out as we start Joining Up Dots with the one and only Shellie Hunt.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics such as:
How she was first introduced to the like of Bob Proctor at the age of six, and was mentored to think BIG even as a child!
How she worked through a series of roles, even spending her time stuffing feathers into blankets…but gained something from all of them!
The reasons why she audits her life after every three months to assess what is working and what is not!
How when you feel scared you need to confront those fears and live on the edge to truly develop!
How so many people will hold you back from the success you deserve, so you need to take close care of who you are surrounded by!
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Full Transcription Of Shellie Hunt Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Good morning. Well, good morning over listeners of Join Up Dots in bear thousands. We have got a great show for you today. We’ve got a lady if you listen to sort of the voiceover man at the beginning of the show, he will say but the people that do not give up and I haven’t given up trying to get this lady on the show. She’s been quiet. Paul. We originally booked him in about Episode 50. And now she’s coming live at Episode 91. But I’ve been speaking to her beforehand, and I know she’s not going to disappoint because she has been for over 25 years. But go to Lady to help companies, individuals and the world find their true path in life. She’s the founder and CEO of successes by design, remake my life the women of global change, and other multiple companies and is known to be able to get to the core of an issue. Even if it’s buried deep inside ourselves, she can find the very thing that is limiting us and holding us back from a life that we deserve. sharing the stage with some of the top speakers in the world and being a lead mentor in the billionaire adventure club has led her to appear on national talking radio shows with audiences in the millions and has been mentioned on Forbes just named just one. So she’s obviously a lady who is massively in demand. But what makes this lady such a powerhouse in the motivational arena, where did she come from? to have such an influence in such a competitive world? And of course, what tips can we gain from her to assist in our dreams of a life designed by success? Well, let’s find out as we start Join Up Dots with the one and only Shellie Hunt, how are you today Shellie?
Shellie Hunt [1:56]
I’m very good. Thank you David for that beautiful Introduction I appreciate that.
David Ralph [2:02]
You don’t need to appreciate that you’ve you’ve got enough out there to weave a lovely introduction quite easily you haven’t you?
Shellie Hunt [2:09]
Well, thank you. Thank you, you know, I believe it’s about serving. You know, it’s not about how long the introduction is even though it’s very kind and I appreciate it but it is all about serving.
David Ralph [2:22]
Happy Have you always thought about I’m gonna cut to the chase. Normally I talk about where you come from and stuff and I’m gonna, I’m gonna sort of lead back onto that. But have you always believed it is about serving people where true value is given?
Shellie Hunt [2:36]
I have. I have I’ve always had a calling for betterment in humanity. And I’ve always followed what I felt was my purpose. And that was to make a difference here on the face of the planet the best way I can.
David Ralph [2:52]
And how did you know that? How do you know what you’re on this planet to do? Because that’s one of the questions but all our listeners are desperate to know It was one of those questions that used to annoy me big time when people would say, just follow your passion. And I used to think, I don’t know, my passion. How can I follow something but I don’t know. So how could you find your passion, you know, a reasonably early age to be able to create what you have.
Shellie Hunt [3:17]
Um, you know, I think that at a really young age, about six years old, I was introduced to a group of people that would go on to kind of be the next wave of the human potential movement. It was Bob Proctor, Alan Dorman. You know, really the founders that have gone on Warner Earhart there, there was a group of us that were trained by Alexander Everett, and Alexander ever it was always about 20 years ahead of his time, but I was a child in with these guys and I was the only child. And so it was one of the things that I just knew it was a calling. I knew before then that There was something different and I used to dream about it. I literally grew up under house near Boston, Massachusetts, and, you know, literally with one pair of shoes at a time, and I used to dream at night, that I would be able to help people and that I would be able to make a difference. It was never really about me getting out of where I was at. I didn’t even realise I was poor. I just knew that I had love. Um, you know, but I didn’t realise the extent of the poverty that I was raised in even with one pair of shoes at a time and then I was introduced to these concepts of humanity, and human latent potential, and human latent abilities and human Layton programming and the things that we adopt and define us. See, I believe that we all come into this world metric I know we do as free limitless, human beings. We have different qualities that we exude, whether it be persistence, whether it be acceptance, whether it be forgiveness, you know, when you watch children, they they may squabble or argue. And then five minutes later, it’s like, aren’t you guys arguing now where they there over it, they do not hang on to stuff. They don’t see the obstacles, they see solutions. If a child wants something, they keep going after it even if they’re not supposed to have that cookie before dinner. And so I started to learn that we really come in that way. And then you know, we’re born into Planet Earth 101 into this three dimensional existence. And we kind of get groomed by what’s around us and by our environment and the digestion of our experiences. And we start to see limits. We start to see paradigms, we start to see and feel form our self esteem or self opinions and our opinions of others. Um, and so, you know, that was having understood that at a really young age kind of led me to, you know, wanting to help humanity and be able to step in and awaken. Um, you know, and share with other people that anything is possible, right?
David Ralph [6:31]
Like big questions. I need to jump in there big, big questions. Number one, yeah, you did like six years old? Why are you hanging around with people like Bob Proctor and and names like that? How did that happen?
Shellie Hunt [6:44]
Because I was asking questions that were kind of beyond my age. And if you asked me, How am I knew that at that age, I really don’t know. But I was asking about energy and I was asking about different Things that normally a six year old x asks about. And so it was one of those things that they just you know, my mother would say don’t talk about that people will think you’re going to be weird. Um, and, you know, both Bob Proctor Tom Wilhite, Alan Dorman, there was, there was others that had come into my mom’s life, one of her best friends had introduced my mom to these people. And, you know, my mom was definitely on the other side of the tracks, but they spotted something in me and said, do we have permission to mentor your daughter and my mom was open to it, which is very unusual. Matter of fact, it was really funny because at one point, that’s what led me to California is I was brought here, about seven years old. And at one point, my mom called and she said, What are you doing? And I said, I’m learning about the mind. It’s all about the mind thing. is literally what I told her and she was like, that’s it. You know, you guys are flying me out there. I’m afraid you’re doing something weird to me.
David Ralph [8:06]
Absolutely, you would think that, wouldn’t you?
Shellie Hunt [8:08]
Yeah, well, yeah, she started going, wait a minute, you know, and then she came out and she started, you know, learning some, you know, some of the trainings of mind dynamics and some of these other early on trainings. You know, kind of what I call there’s another wave of human potential, and there’s another wave coming right now. Um, you know, and so, you know, that’s kind of how it happened. But but
David Ralph [8:32]
but boy, you that’s what I’m interested in, you know, but these are adults. In today’s day and age, we have all sorts of situations with child abuse and all that kind of stuff. It wouldn’t even happen, would it? You would not let your daughter go off with men across the country. Obviously, in those days, it’s a sort of different, different mindset, I suppose. But what was it that they saw in you and not all the other children or the other adults that they came across?
Shellie Hunt [9:00]
You know, I’ve asked myself that David time and time again, I’ve been very blessed to have incredible mentors in my life. And I think it’s because I was open to the mentorship. I think I was open to it. And I also think it’s it was part of my calling. It’s part of my, my purpose here. I but I believe we all have a purpose here. And I know you said you’re not sometimes sure what your purpose is. I think we all ask ourselves once in a while, what the heck am I doing? Because I you know, if you don’t ask yourself once in a while, what the heck am I doing? You’re kind of not stepping out. And there’s times we have to step out in faith. But I think that I just was really blessed. And I’m you know, I’ve asked myself that so many times. It’s so funny you asked that because a lot of people don’t ask me that when
David Ralph [9:52]
I would have said that was the obvious question, isn’t it?
Shellie Hunt [9:55]
Well, I think it is. But people don’t always ask that. Thank you The first. So I like that actually. So
David Ralph [10:04]
So do you know slightly resented in, you know in a kind of way that when you listen to Michael Jackson being interviewed he used to say he lost his childhood was a part of your life where you would have been running around the fields or Boston and you know messing around with your mates? Was that sort of taken away from you? Or was it an equal balance of being a child and being this this young kind of positive guru?
Shellie Hunt [10:31]
It was an equal balance. I was very lucky in that, um, you know, and in so that respect, um, you know, I definitely had a balance which it could have gone the other way, but it didn’t, which was good and I still run around, I’m still you know, have that side of me. You know, I believe that when we’re light and when we’re engaged in the moment That life is just incredible. And, you know, it’s so funny. I mean, I just I appreciate so much. Um, you know, and so anyways, but that’s that you ask some interesting questions, David, I like your style.
David Ralph [11:19]
Well, that’s what we were about. We’re trying to make it different from the others, you know, because I’ve been looking at pictures of you whizzing around on your jetski and with your North Country palace or mansion or shed or shack or whatever you have. And there seems to be as you’re saying, a freedom that you that appeals to you and you like, and it takes you away from the norm. A lot of people don’t get that a lot of people are in the rat race and basically a living their day to work, but you seem to be out to almost come into the spotlight and do your thing and then disappear and live a very, very simple life. Yeah. Okay. You’ve got a jet ski and things like that. But really separated? Is that a conscious thing that you do? Or is that just something that has has developed over the years?
Shellie Hunt [12:09]
Um, it was something that is a conscious choice, but I did develop it. And it’s not something that, like I said, you know, we get into this three dimensional world and I’ve been in what you call the rat race. I’ve been in corporate America, I’ve done the nine to five. I mean, I’ve done everything in odd jobs from work in factories when I was, you know, 19 years old stuffing feather blankets to waitress saying to working in corporate America. And so I’ve really run the gamut of, of understanding different industries and different of service positions. But one of the things that was really important to me was actually enjoying the journey of life. So many people make it about money or they make it about, you know, the final destination And you know, they I just find that there are many missions on this journey. And there are many different things and whether good or bad comes in it’s all learning process. I think this is like the most ultimate School of learning is being on this planet. And the when I see is enjoying more of the moments than not, you know, I’m saying so for me that’s truly living is really enjoying the quality relationships you have really being I don’t care if you’re in a factory stuffing feathered blankets, do you? You know, what are you getting out of this? What are you thinking about? Are you just grumbling and complaining? Or are you creating in the back of your mind? Are you looking at you know, I would even look at how do they run this organisation? Like I was never into just being resentful. I’m stuffing a feather blank and so on. It is a learning process and it’s all how we look at it, you know? And so that that’s one of the in the moment. keys for me. And then it’s also Yeah, it’s also being able to realise, you know, human Layton wise, programming wise and potential lies. We are creatures of habit. We’re absolutely creatures of habit. I cannot say it enough. And what may work for you is habits today may not work for you in three months and about every two to three months. I take a look at my schedule, I take a look at my life. I take a look at what’s up and coming and I adjust my schedule. And I adjust my timing and my habits consciously. Too many times we get on this treadmill and it just we just live in this habit. You know, you get up at you know, six you work till five or four, you go home. home, you dinner, your watch TV, whatever it is, and you go pretty soon you’re all I have no time. I have no time for a relationship. I have no time for another business. I have no time to create. I have no time with my children. I have no time for this no time for that. And the truth is, time is man made. I like to say woman made but
David Ralph [15:18]
that’s probably man. You can say it.
Shellie Hunt [15:23]
Time is you know, I think woman may just so we know what we’re supposed to show up. But animals and other things don’t exist in that paradigm. And we limit ourselves and we start to become because we’re habitual creatures, we start to become the sum of our patterns versus the sum of our authentic essence.
David Ralph [15:45]
This is fascinating stuff you’re saying here Shadi because I was having a conversation the other day with a gentleman called separator vaden. And he used to be the interpreter for the Iranian President. And he now structures he’s live where he says basically he came to a real ization that we are just batteries. Humans are batteries. And he was running himself down expecting to work on full potential. And he couldn’t because we were tired. And we’ve all been in that situation where you roll out of bed each morning, you go to do your work as good as you possibly can. And then you just wait for two weeks vacation and then try to recharge yourself ready to go. And what he does, and what it seems to meet a lot of the successful people who had got those choices, but many people haven’t, or a perceiver by happened is that he designs his life, but he works incredibly hard for six months, and then nothing for three months. And he says that he can actually structure his life. But everything gets done, because he knows when this mini retirement is equals it is going to come in. And that’s it’s so important, isn’t it that we do look at ourselves and try to focus on the fact that if we are going to be successful, if we are going to design our life, if we aren’t going to sort of reach for the stars. We’ve got to look after ourselves, and we’ve got To keep ourselves recharged to be out, but to keep going forward when things get hard.
Shellie Hunt [17:05]
Absolutely. And we’ve got to look at the balance in our life. You know, it’s like our self time, our workout time are, you know, and that’s where that whole adjustment, you know, comes in of looking at, okay, how is my life been running for the last 45 to 60 days? And is it serving me? You know? And do I need to change it for the next 45 to 60 days? And how do I need to adjust? And then once we have that, it’s actually being in a moment of everything. Really being in the moment, so many times and I used to do it in my 20s where I’d put my head down, and I just wanted to go and I wanted to understand business because I had understood human labour potential and I wanted to understand owning multiple businesses because I knew it was possible. I didn’t have an example of it, but I knew it was possible at that time. And, you know, I put my head down And I’d be like, true, I got through that I survived. But I totally missed the journey. totally missed the journey. And so I think it’s really about enjoying the journey.
David Ralph [18:14]
And so so what you’re doing really is you’re auditing your life on every three months basis, you’re looking back, and you’re, you’re doing a balance sheet of what’s worked and what hasn’t. Now we do that in business. Of course we do. But we generally we don’t do it on ourselves in any shape or form, do we?
Shellie Hunt [18:30]
No, we do not. And you’re absolutely right. It is like a balance sheet. And where does it meet? Where am I developing, if I’m developing a new company, and I’ve done it with working with corporate america and broken off to form a new company, and when I did it, I was like, wow, how am I going to do this? I’m working all day. I’m a single mom. There’s all of these things. And what I realised is some of that time instead of watching that hour and a half a TV or that hour, whatever it is, Got up an hour early, maybe I would start dedicating certain parts of time to start taking a bite out of creating my additional dream, or the things that I wanted to create. But you know, if it was I’m going into a new relationship, and I laugh about it all the time, because people will be like, I have no time. I have no time at all. And then they’ll meet somebody they like and they the person will save you want to go to dinner and they go, Oh, yeah, I’d love to suddenly have time. Right. Yeah. And that’s a great example. Because people that you know, we, you know, we’ve all dated at some point in our life. Well, most of us anyways, 98% of us,
David Ralph [19:40]
but I’m sure he hasn’t.
Shellie Hunt [19:43]
Yeah, you know what people get that when you give them that example, you suddenly make time? Well, I think that we need to run our time, not time runs us. And so we got to look out also and go, where am I going? Am I starting a new business right? Now am I in a relationship? You know, I want to start a new one, where am I going? That needs my attention for this next 45 to 60 days and let me adjust accordingly.
David Ralph [20:12]
So, so going going back to the little five year old in the dodgy shoes in Boston, how much of that girl is still in you? Now? Obviously, you know, you are successful. You’re standing on huge speed stages in MGM in Las Vegas and places. But how much of that that original you is still there? And how much of you has been designed for success now?
Shellie Hunt [20:38]
Uh, well, you know, I think that that little girl will always be there. And, you know, I think that, you know, it shows up in different ways. For example, I think we all have something that follows us from childhood, whether we realise it or not, you know, you know, growing up having that one pair of shoes now I have a shoe room. I had a girlfriend that grew up with me, um, you know, at that time, and she never had a lot of food. So if you go on her pantry, we could all survive, you know if the end of the world came. And so I think that there’s always something that follows us that we need to recognise and look at. And I think that the other side of me also has a calling that little girl has a calling. And that is to reach out to as many other women children and people in need as possible. And it was one of the reasons why I formed the women of global change, which it is men and women, it’s not just women, um, you know, but when I started to go into third fourth world countries, and I started to see the need, um, you know, and I understand the need where you know, you grew up in love, but what do you do when you have that kind of poverty and the kind of poverty that I’ve seen, whether it be in Haiti or in some of these other countries, Honduras Um, you know, have a great need and that definitely calls to the little girl in me. It does, it calls to somebody reached out to their hand to me when I was very young. And you know, I’ve gone through my life right now I’m just reaching out as much as I can to other people and other things to make a difference. Somebody made a difference in my life. And I feel like it’s part of my calling to give back.
David Ralph [22:29]
It’s such a shame, though, isn’t it but people like you, and and hopefully me, are needed so much in the world. When if you get down to the nuts and bolts of it, it’s it’s down to the individuals to make that personal choice and create their own reality. And the fact that the self development movement and the sort of motivational speaking, and the things that I’m doing are so sought after. It’s a kind of crying shame, isn’t it about the people out there listening to this, buying the books, buying the courses haven’t realised Really you bet the core essence of what makes a life successful is down to them.
Shellie Hunt [23:05]
It is it is always up to us, you know, we have freewill, we have free choice. And it is a practice trait, you know, we’re born with it, and then we’re kind of like, I’m trained out of it. And so it’s really, um, you know, does come down to the individual. It always does.
David Ralph [23:28]
Always certain people, but you see, but you will, you’ll be almost being able to see that spark. It’s like when you see American Idol or X Factor, and somebody walks on the stage, and they open their mouth and they start singing and you go, oh, wow, I wasn’t expecting that. Do you bump into people that you can see it just like ready to go but there’s just something holding them back before they actually become that shooting star?
Shellie Hunt [23:55]
Yes, I do. And I do. I do. spotted I’m known to spy What they called cash cows.
Shellie Hunt [24:03]
Well, I do I spot it in businesses, I spot it and ideas and I do see it in people. I see light and old people, that’s just kind of how I operate. But I also see at times, you know, where there can be, um, I don’t want to say blocks, but barriers. And sometimes it has to do with fear. Sometimes it has to do with, you know, do they feel unworthy, you know, all of those types of things. And then there’s the other side of it, which is, you know, the fear of success, which is the total opposite side of of it, um, you know, which is really all about what is the cost, and it’s never what is the cost, it’s what they perceive, they would have to pay for success. And many people have this paradigm that to have success. Oh, well, I can’t have a career and a relationship or, Oh, I can’t you know, Do that till I have this or I have to give up that to have this. And that’s really all self imposed. That’s all somebody else’s paradigms, because you absolutely can have it all. And you absolutely can have a balance and happy and fulfilling life. Um, you know, and so those are paradigms and yes, I do see them I speak with so many people, and I engage with so many human beings every month and you know, but it is a choice.
David Ralph [25:40]
It is a choice. Is it just a mindset shift? Is it just like being in in a car and for the first two years you’re in second gear and when somebody says to you, it Do you realise there’s a third and a fourth gear here, oh is there and you suddenly change and it goes faster? Is it just mindset but can take your life on to the next level?
Shellie Hunt [26:00]
A lot of it is because how I think affects my behaviour, and how I behave actually how I think affects my feelings, right? So how I think affects my feelings, how I feel affects my behaviour, and how I behave really affects my results. So how I think is definitely a core foundation of the results and the, you know, actions and the interactions that I have in my life.
David Ralph [26:35]
So when did you start making that big move, we call it on the show the big dots, where you actually look back and for many people, it’s a bad time in their life, when they look back on it and they go, I wouldn’t want to go through that ever again. But if it wasn’t for that, I wouldn’t be who I am now. It was my big.so you went through so many jobs and you came from such Little beginnings. So when was it that the Shelley hunt that we see now and we hear now actually started shifting gear herself?
Shellie Hunt [27:09]
I would say it was in my late 20s is when I started to really delve into and start to I started out actually, I’m in my early 20s, reading, thinking Grow Rich, I still do it every day, I just kind of flip open the book and pick a spot. But I started to really engage my own thoughts and my own mind and really started talking back to myself not just letting my subconscious mind talk to my conscious mind. And it’s almost like when you want to go to the gym, and you know, you know, you got to go and you’re like, well, I’ll go later tonight, and then tonight comes into like, well, I’m really tired. I don’t feel like you talk yourself out of a lot of things. I did anyways, and so I actually had to go No, I’m going I’m stepping in anyway. And so that really started to happen. Um, cognitively in my 20s by the end of my 20s, I started to put it more into action. And that’s when I really discovered about the habitual ness of, you know, Planet Earth 1013 dimensions and going, Okay, I keep getting on these treadmills of habits that serve me at one time and don’t serve me now, or serve where I want to go. And so I would definitely say 20s.
David Ralph [28:40]
But But you You must have had the fear, the self limiting fears that everyone has at that time, because I I read thinking Grow Rich, and I remember, it was the first time I was on a train going to work. And I was reading this book, and it’s a brilliant book. It’s a bit old fashioned in places but it’s you know, it’s a it’s a marvellous book. I remember thinking it was the first time of my life, oh, my God, I could be a millionaire. And it’s down to me. And it was the first time I’d ever had that thought. But how did you take that for those positive statements of that book, and actually overcoming overcome those fears that everybody else has? How did you manage to quiet? That little boys?
Shellie Hunt [29:22]
I gotta say, fear still comes up for me. It comes up for anybody that’s playing out there in the world, you know, and, you know, it’s really funny. My daughter is 16. She’s leaving for college. And I said, How are you doing? And she said, Mom, I’m so excited, and I’m so scared. I’m so scared. And I said, Remember that feeling? because anytime, when I walked away from corporate America, I felt the same way. When I walked away from my job, and you know, that I knew was six figures. I was actually less than six figures at the first time I walked away, it was five figures, and I was scared. And every time I have gone into a bigger arena of my life, there is a fear factor. There’s excitement and there’s fear. And it’s like electricity and it lives in your body. And it’s kind of like, what do we do with this? With this fear? And you know, I mean, some people freeze some people back off, some people talk themselves out of it. Some people just put their head down, and they rush right through it, and they get through it, like they survived, and they don’t even experience it. Um, but I think it happens at every level. I think it happens time and time again, I think it happens in our relationships. People get hurt, you know, and the next thing you know, you’re on the line, and you want to be vulnerable while your knees are shaking. And you’re excited, but you’re scared because you don’t want it you know, you’re excited. It’s something you want, but you’re scared because you have a fear of getting hurt. And I think that people do the same thing in their career, and I People do it in every level of their career, I don’t care if it’s just starting out a new business or if it’s taking a business you have and it’s going to the next level or you’re hiring the first employee or you’re hiring the 12th. We all have our threshold, our limits our edges, and wherever your edges is where you want to play. Now, not like a lemming not like dropping off the cliff. And being you know, like, you know, I’m just going to freefall and I don’t know how I’m gonna feed my family, but really doing it with execution in mind and yet at the same time moving forward on the those edges and so on, I still go on those edges. Every once in a while, you know, I just got a television station, actually a film, not television station, let me correct that. A film studio, a full on film studio, and I’m getting ready to film some women shows and people’s advocate shows These other things and I sat there saying, I have I lost my mind. What What am I doing? If I lost my mind, and I laugh at myself, I recognise that electricity and that excitement and fear and nervousness, or whatever you want to call it, and yet, I laugh. And I’m like, because I know that space. And so you know, familiarise yourself, where do you go when you’re on that limit? Where do you go if you know you go into confusion, then you can call yourself on it. If you know you go into, you know, being frozen, you can call yourself on it and laugh at yourself. Oh my gosh, I’m freezing right now because I am excited and fearful and all these things.
David Ralph [32:55]
It’s a key message to our listeners that it really is because somebody like you is obviously extremely successful. And then there’s gonna be people even more successful than you. And it is just the area that you’re in. And it doesn’t matter if they’re taking that first leap of faith or that last leap of faith. Everything that is new that takes you out of your comfort zone is scary, isn’t it? But from my point of view, every time Well actually, I now I spent years and years and years suppressing fear, and just kind of blindly going through it. Now I actually look for fear and the things that have scared me most certainly doing this job has scared me stupid when I first started doing it have been a things where I look back now and I go, Wow, best thing I ever did that. But it was so scary. I almost didn’t I had that little voice in my head saying, oh, they’re gonna laugh at you. Why are you doing this? It’s not gonna work. It’s all white for other people. And you do benchmark yourself against the next level. But you do not get this opportunity to share something so openly with people like yourself who go Yeah, I’m scared. I’m I’m still scared, but I will grow through that.
Shellie Hunt [34:07]
Did you think somebody
David Ralph [34:07]
like Obama is scared?
Shellie Hunt [34:11]
I would be. I would be if I was the president of the United States, I’m sure I would be on my limits. And on my edges, and especially with some of the things that, you know, some of the decisions I think, if you’re going to run any country, um, you know, that there has to have its moments of your knees are shaking a little bit. Absolutely.
David Ralph [34:34]
Because I think that must be the hardest job in the world. Not just that they go in as young men and they come out two minutes later, little old men, so it must suck them dry somehow. But they all look dreadful, don’t they? After about 15 minutes in the role. You don’t get any training. There’s no training. It’s the one job that you basically walk through the door, almost convincing the world that you can do it. So they vote for you. And you make it up as you go in. I think that must be so terrifying every second of a day, where you get a decision thrown at you, and you’ve got to make it up. And you’ve never done it before. It’s a brand new decision. And I do think if you look at these prime ministers and these presidents, and even if you don’t think they’re very good, you’ve got to sort of go, Wow, they’re really putting in the effort to be able to do what they’re doing, and still put in the suit shining the shoes and putting themselves out there every single day because they must be quaking.
Shellie Hunt [35:28]
Well, I’ll tell you, you know, that is, it’s not an easy job. Anytime you take a leadership position, you have got to know there are people that are going to come after you, there are people that are going to support you, there are people that are going to say, while you’re even crazy trying to go for prime minister or the President of the United States, um, you know, and it’s really important, I think that you have people around you that support you because you know, If they didn’t have those kind of people around them, they wouldn’t have reached the level that they’re at. And I think that that’s in any industry.
David Ralph [36:07]
But how do people get that that peer group because it is so important. And I keep saying it time and time again, if you’re in a situation that you want to change, you’ve got to look around, and you’ve got to see the people that are surrounding you. Because so many of those will anchor you because, unfortunately, they don’t actually want you to be a success, because then it will look bad on them for one thing, or that they care about you so much that they don’t want you to fail, and so they will hold you back. So how do people who are out there listening to this conversation, they’re going to work, they’re doing a job and they want to change their life somehow. How do they get that support?
Shellie Hunt [36:43]
Well, I think one of the things is you know, definitely be careful who you share your dreams with. You know, I’m in that is one of the lessons that I have learned early on in my 20s when I started doing women’s leadership and Some of the stuff out there in the world is, you know, people have a tendency, they’re, they’re habitual creatures we all are. And so they will have a tendency, much the majority of them to see you as you were not as you are becoming. And so I took a really good look at some of the people in my life. And, you know, some of them I actually had to distance myself from some they distance themselves from me, you know, because they were upset over success or they were upset over whatever, you know, their own paradigms, they’re not producing. And yet at the same time, I found that there’s always another it’s like a vacuum. There are always people to come in to support you when you’re ready. And when you’re open to it. You know, too many times we’re trying to fix what’s behind us when what’s in front of us is the answer to what we need right now. And For the next level of where we’re going, so that’s one thing. The other thing is I would definitely look at where are these people, you know, in their lives? Are they moving forward? Are they you know, it That doesn’t mean like, are they moving forward financially? That means are they moving forward in their life? Because that can look in many different arenas? Are they fully supporting you? Another words, I have people on my team, if I say, I’ve got this really crazy idea, I’m going to go by this film studio, and we’re going to do this, that and the other thing, and if any of them look at me and go, Oh, all right, then I don’t want to I don’t want to play with them. Even in my work environment. Um, you know, I would let them go immediately, because there’s got to be a opening for you to be able to step through. We’re not on the face of this planet to be alone. We need each other support. And I think that that’s really Important, you know, so even if you have less than a handful of people that are in your close circle that are supportive of you, then that’s really all you need that think you’re hotter than popcorn and peanut butter that just think you’re the cat’s meow, you’re it that way, when you start to doubt yourself, and I go, I don’t know if I can do this, and I do that there are times I have doubts, right? I asked myself, it’s just it’s very short lived before I step into it, but I say, I don’t know if I can do this. And the ones around me say, we think you can go for it.
David Ralph [39:38]
So do you have any sort of really close confidence that would say to you, Shelly, this is absolute madness. You really shouldn’t be doing this, and you will listen to them.
Shellie Hunt [39:48]
I do. I do. And then sometimes I don’t listen.
Shellie Hunt [39:56]
And it’s because I believe that you know, well, I do I have very good competence. And Bob Proctor is one of my close confidence. And I have several others. Les Brown is one of my close confidence. Um, you know, and I have several others that are that are very close to me. But I also believe that I know for me, I have an intuition that I listen to very closely and I’m really clear in depicting Is this a human Layton programme or is this actually my intuition? And that’s a very learned task. Bye bye. A lot of people women, it comes a little bit easier for because sometimes we just can’t even explain things and we follow them. Um, but I definitely if I don’t listen to them, it’s because there’s a calling inside me that tells me I’m supposed to step there or move there.
David Ralph [40:55]
Well, let’s play some words that really highlight what you were just saying to a tee. These are the ones To the late Steve Jobs and we play them generally on every show, because he talks about following your calling, trusting yourself, intuition, even karma. Let’s Let’s play the words and then I’m going to talk to you about them afterwards. This is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [41:14]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well worn path and that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [41:50]
Does it make the difference?
Shellie Hunt [41:53]
It does make a difference absolutely makes a difference.
David Ralph [41:57]
In what way personally Can Can you look I can connect your dots.
Shellie Hunt [42:02]
I can connect a lot of my dots in the past. And I think that the times where I wasn’t sure about my dots looking back, I definitely walked in faith. I definitely walked in intuition and faith. And I think that that is a it’s a genetic trait. I think we’re all born with it. It’s just a muscle that we don’t always use or listen to.
Shellie Hunt [42:30]
But I love Steve Jobs, his words. I mean, how eloquent
David Ralph [42:34]
What a great way to put it. That day on simply powerhouse words, and I’ve said this numerous times on shows. I would love to go back in time and find out whether he had been planning that for mums, or whether it was, oh god, I got to do a speech in 15 minutes or just write something. I wonder if it was truly from his heart or it was something that he he needed to leave with the world because these are words of the ages and they will be True for so many people in 100 years, and I hope those words stay, and people are still reflecting on them, because when I started doing this show, I knew I wanted to base it around Bose words because they meant something to me. But I didn’t realise at all how much they mean to literally everyone.
Shellie Hunt [43:18]
Absolutely, they do. They, they say so much to everyone. Um, you know, and I, he probably, he probably did think about what he was going to say. But I don’t know if he read it off the sheet. Either way, I think it came through him. Sometimes there’s things that come through us and we go, did I say that?
David Ralph [43:43]
I live my life on that.
Shellie Hunt [43:44]
I think that that’s one of the things he did, whether it was when he was writing it or delivering it, you know, physically I think that it definitely was something that was a larger message that came through him.
David Ralph [43:57]
That’s a real key point what you said there because in your Life there’s a lot of freewheeling there’s going to be a lot of presentations that are WordPerfect you you built them up, but we’ve all presentations and motivational speakers there’s there’s times when you just go off on one. And do you ever listen back to yourself and kind of go? Do you know, I don’t actually remember ever thinking that but well what a good point I’ve made
Shellie Hunt [44:22]
sometimes sometimes I was just at the World Congress centre and I had done a a speech there and it was really funny. I don’t even call it a speech. I guess they asked me to talk you know, cuz speeches to me always kind of, you know, it’s like the the politicians writer writes them and they give you the teleprompter and they go, and I don’t work that way. And so, you know, I just knew the gist of what I was saying. And I get up there and started talking and, you know, when I got off and you know, you look there and there’s a standing ovation and you get off the stage and you go, what was Half of what I just said, because it literally came through me. And that is one of the things that you know, yes, if I’m doing specific business trainings and I’m doing business strategy and business expansion and platform and PR and all that stuff, and I’m teaching in that arena, I have specific tangible strategies that I find work no matter the industry that work. However, I you know, I never set out to be a motivational speaker. I have to say that now. But I find that there are things that come through me that are messages that are of much higher purpose and definitely elicited hope. And I hope that’s what I do in this lifetime as I listened hope and that people see the possibility of living a fulfilled life. Because so many people make it about money and yeah, does money help? Heck yeah, I can help a lot more people with money than without it. But it’s really about Hope and enjoying this journey no matter where you are.
David Ralph [46:06]
Is that easier to say once you’re successful? Because I’m sure there’s gonna be people out. But I agree those words, I now totally agree. And I can see how my life is changing, amazingly. But I’m sure there would have been a time sort of, like 1015 years ago when I was trapped in the rat race that I would have said, yes, you can say that, because you’ve got the choices. You’ve got the ability to say, I’m not going to do this, I’m not going to do that. But when you’re in the rat race, you’re just on the treadmill and you can’t escape from it.
Shellie Hunt [46:35]
I guess that was my own hope when I was in the rat race, because I was like, I think I’ll get up in you know, an hour early, and I will start creating, you know, another business or I will so I guess I was my own hope was my own little cheering committee for a little while they’re working in the you know, in the background, um, but I think you It’s really stepping into one being awakened to our thoughts. And, you know, realising what they are to being able to run our own time not let our time run us. Three being in the moment, there’s so much about being in the moment that you know, we have no guarantees, I have no guarantees, I’m going to be on the face of this planet tomorrow. And so many times were you know, on this treadmill and yet we don’t stop and we don’t stop and and enjoy, you know, this quality conversation with our child or our spouse or our loved ones or our family or, you know, um, and I think it’s how we look at it. I know it is. It’s, it’s that paradigm.
David Ralph [47:49]
So everyone can have the life but is designed. Is this what we’re saying in this conversation?
Shellie Hunt [47:57]
Absolutely. They can absolutely They can, you know, um, some people, they want to be home at five o’clock they want to do, you know, they’re happy being in a nine to five, and it’s what makes you happy as an individual. You know, I’ve worked with this billionaire and it was really funny, because he invited me to his home, because he wanted to show me his home and we were going to do a session at his house and me and my assistant went to his house, and we go to this house, and this guy has like a literally a billion plus dollars. And his home is about I think it was about 1100 to 1200 square feet. And I said, this is really interesting. If this is your home, I expected this elaborate palace or something. I don’t know what you know. And he says, but let me show you something. And then we walk next door and there’s a 15,000 square foot garage that has all these cars. And he said people think you know, I’m eccentric. I said does it make you happy? He said you Yes, I said, then that’s all that matters. So what makes you happy is that I want to own a Prius. And that’s what you want to own. And that’s what makes you happy. Is it you know, you want to have a grand castle is that what makes you happy? Is it you know, I want to have an intimate relationship that looks like this. This is what makes me happy. I want to have children, I don’t want to have children. It’s a very personal choice of what makes you happy. And that’s something that we really don’t stop to define a lot of times in our life, you know, what kind of environment do you want? What kind of relationships do you want? What kind of work do you want? What kind of you know relationships with with work people do you want? Do you want to own your own company? You know, I mean, whatever it is, define it. Because if you don’t define it, you don’t put it out, but you can’t manifest it. If there is not a goal for me to look at where I’m going to, I’m never going to get there. It’s going to be up in the air, and it’s only ever going to live inside me. The minute that I vocalise it or the minute that I write it down, I’m starting to put it into tangible form.
David Ralph [50:21]
Let me play you. Let me just play you some words and I’ve been throwing this into the into the shows recently because I think it’s hugely motivational. I don’t know if you’ve heard this. This was on the internet recently by Jim Carrey, and I just want to play you a snippet of it because I think he’s he’s amazingly powerful stuff. This is Jim Carrey as well.
Jim Carrey [50:40]
My father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father. Not the least The wish was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [51:07]
What do you think of that?
Shellie Hunt [51:08]
I love that I look at it like working out. So I figured this way if I work out it’s gonna hurt, right? If you’re going to have some you’re going to be activating those muscles there’s going to be some ache there’s going to be some if you’re really working out, if I don’t work out, I’m going to hurt and so I look at it this way. There is a cost to you know, to choosing to step in and there’s a cost to choosing to step back in so you know, I mean, what do you have to lose? You might as well go for it. I love that.
David Ralph [51:44]
I love it as well and when I when I heard it, because it was Jim Carrey I wasn’t expecting something so profound, but it’s truly amazing is truly amazing words and you know if if I hadn’t built the show around the Steve Jobs would build it around that because I think that is absolutely integral to, as you say designing success.
Shellie Hunt [52:08]
I love it. That’s great and no I didn’t expect the same either with when you said Carrie is coming on I wait what?
David Ralph [52:15]
can you expect a spin sure or something?
Shellie Hunt [52:17]
Oh boy, what are we going for?
David Ralph [52:21]
So surely just before we put you on the Sermon on the mic, and we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self, where is your life now? Are you still aiming for more or are you content? Are you gonna settle back? what’s what’s on the radar Shelly?
Shellie Hunt [52:40]
Um, I guess coming into more mass media and taking the message to the next level of what I feel I’m supposed to be doing. And so the women global change is expanding. You know, all of that is your that’ll be announced very soon. And really bringing out on and into mass media the messages of hope of a knowledge and inspiration.
David Ralph [53:14]
And what is so carrying you at the moment?
Shellie Hunt [53:18]
Oh, ever I always am stepping out on the edge.
Um, if I’m not on the edge, I’m not playing big enough, you know? Um, so I guess really
Shellie Hunt [53:32]
well, I guess the biggest thing actually, and here’s a personal thing, my daughter is actually getting ready to leave for college. She graduated a year early and, you know, did her 4.2 and, you know, got her college scholarships and, you know, academic wise and all this stuff. So, you know, I had a chapter of my life that changed when I had my daughter and I have another personal chapter of my life that is about to change again and even though it’s Sad and there’s a part of it. That’s, you know, I’m sad and I’m a little fearful. I’m excited. I’m really excited about going into this next chapter.
David Ralph [54:11]
You could be a grantee in a few years time.
Shellie Hunt [54:14]
Oh no, let’s not go there. She’s 16 No, heck no.
David Ralph [54:16]
Okay, in 10 years time.
Shellie Hunt [54:19]
Yeah. Thank you. All right.
David Ralph [54:21]
That’s much better. That’s I leave it as bad right. Okay, let’s get you to the end of the show. Now. I really don’t want to say goodbye to you. But this is so important. And this is the part when we send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if you could go back Would you talk to the the young girl in Boston with only one pair of shoes Would you talk to the fibre blanket? plucker or stuffer? What? Yeah, age of Shelly, would you speak to him? What words of advice would you give? So this is a sermon on the mic?
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Shellie Hunt [55:14]
Okay, I would definitely talk to the 20 year old Shellie Hunt. First off, I think the one that had one pair of shoes was very open minded. And I think that the 20 year old Shelly started to encounter a lot of paradigms. And so one of the things that I would tell the 20 year old woman is to not worry so much about hardships, or about love or about so many other paradigms, because in the long run, there is a karma and there is a path and there is a opening So many doors shot for the 20 year old in different areas, that there was so much uncertainty. So I would say, have more certainty, trust your intuition more, take more chances and
Shellie Hunt [56:19]
be be bold and yet have a little temperance.
David Ralph [56:29]
Isn’t it fascinating but the Chevy that was 20 is so different from the Chevy today, and it’s the way life should be, isn’t it? Really?
Shellie Hunt [56:37]
It absolutely is. Somebody asked me if I ever go back to being 20 years old, and I said, No. I have loved every step of this process so far, and I’m enjoying every day of it now. And I think that’s that’s part of what it’s about.
David Ralph [56:53]
Absolutely. How can people who have been listening to you and are inspired by you actually connect with you, Shelly
Shellie Hunt [57:00]
Well they can go to info at success is by design, or they can reach me at info at the women of global change calm.
David Ralph [57:13]
Well, thank you so much for spending time with us today joining up the dots of your life and please come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up those dots and connecting our past is the very best way to build our futures. Shelly hunt. Thank you so much.
Shellie Hunt Speaker [57:27]
Thank you, David.
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