Tosca Reno Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Tosca Reno
Tosca Reno is todays guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots podcast.
She is a lady who quite simply has powered her way to a level of success most people dream about.
All the while, life was throwing at her personal and business tragedies that would have stopped most people in their tracks.
She is the New York Times best-selling author of Your Best Body Now and the Eat-Clean Diet®series, and The Start Here Diet, selling more than two million copies globally.
She is also the pioneer of the Eat-Clean Movement and one of North America’s most renowned health and wellness experts leading the pack in the battle against obesity.
But what fascinated me and is perfect for a show like Join Up Dots was this wasn’t an obvious journey.
Until almost touching her 40’s, our guest life was as far away from where she is today
How The Dots Joined Up For Tosca
Tosca’s passion for championing the Eat-Clean Lifestyle began when she took control of her life and transformed her body from overweight to strong and fit at age 40.
Unfulfilled and down on herself, Tosca began a lifelong commitment to embracing a healthier, well-balanced life of Eating Clean and fitness.
Driven by tenacity and fuelled by positive energy, Tosca gave herself permission to enjoy life and experience and accept a new version of herself.
Since her spectacular transformation, Tosca has spent over a decade sharing her journey with others and helping them lose weight and get healthy.
So throughout her journey, there was a strong lack of personal belief and understanding of what she could bring to the world.
As she says “In my wildest dreams I could not have imagined this happening to me.
I was just an ordinary housewife living an ordinary life.”
So what made her late husband see something in her, that she couldn’t see herself at the time?
And where do people start feeling great about themselves if they think that its going to be hard and expensive to get going?
Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Tosca Reno
Show Highlights
During the show we discussed such deep subjects with Tosca Reno such as:
Tosca shares how she had to find her “why” by tackling small challenges and overcoming the mindset issues that often stop progress.
We discuss how the branding of “Eat-Clean” came about, and share the brilliance and clarity of the message she shares.
Why it is so important to rest in between bouts of exercise to give yourself the greatest chance of peak fitness.
And lastly………..
The three easy steps that we can all take to make a difference in our fitness and mental health.
Books By Tosca Reno
How To Connect With Tosca Reno
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Full Transcription Of Tosca Reno Interview
Outro [0:00]
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK. David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:25]
Yes, hello there. Good morning to you. Good morning to you and welcome to Join Up Dots. You know, sometimes there’s guests that come on the show, but I just know, just know that I’d give a big squeezy hug. If I was in my vicinity. They may not ask for it, but they would get it. And today’s guest is one of those because even though I didn’t know much about her until about three weeks ago, I’m now a big fan. And hopefully you’ll understand why, when we had our conversation. She is a lady who quite simply is powered her way to a level of success. Most people dream about all the while life was flowing at a personal and business tragedies that would have stopped most people in their tracks. She’s the New York Times best selling author of your best body now and the eat clean diet series and the Start Here diet selling more than 2 million copies globally. She’s also the pioneer of the eat clean movement and one of North America’s most renowned health and wellness experts leading the pack in the battle against obesity now but what fascinated me and is perfect for a show like Join Up Dots was a bit wasn’t an obvious journey and until almost touching her 40s our guests life was as far away from where she is today as possible. She’s obviously got a passion for championing the eat clean lifestyle. But this began when she took control of her life and transformed her body from overweight to strong and fit at age 40. And I’ll tell you what, listeners it’s been my screensaver for about the last three weeks. It’s a good image, unfulfilled and down on herself. She began a lifelong commitment to embracing a healthier, well balanced life of eating clean and fitness and driven by tenacity. And fueled by positive energy, she gave herself permission to enjoy life and experience and accept a new version of herself. Now since her transformation, she spent over a decade sharing her journey with others and helping them lose weight and get healthy. And throughout her journey. There’s a strong lack of personal belief and understanding of what she can bring to the well. As she says in my wildest dreams, I could not have imagined this happening to me. I was just an ordinary housewife living an ordinary life. So what made her late husband see something in her that she couldn’t see herself at the time? And where do people start feeling great about themselves? If I think that it’s going to be hard and expensive to get going? Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only am I new best may Tosca Reno. Good morning. Good morning,
Tosca Reno [2:58]
David. This is fantastic. Thank you so much for that wonderful lead up. And for your warm embrace. We are best mates.
David Ralph [3:04]
We are best mates. And if I gave you a squeezy hug, would that be too much? Or would that be Oh no,
Tosca Reno [3:09]
I would give you a squeeze right back.
David Ralph [3:10]
Ah, there we go. There we go. And Tosca started drinking about two hours ago. So she might say anything now. I’ll be honest, tosco, right, this is going to be totally open with you. When you connected me, I was recording some episodes of Join Up Dots. And an email got forwarded to me and I said, Oh, you might want to look at this one. And so I looked at it, it was very nice. And so I sent an answer back. And then I had my lunch. And I thought to myself, I will look up Tosca Reno and see what she’s all about. And so I looked and I saw some images. And instantly I bought Photoshop. I honestly did. I thought okay, these are going to be photoshopped images. But when I went over to the videos and started watching videos, I realised I was so far away from that, because of the sparkle and the vitality in your eyes and your smile and I thought you can’t Photoshop that but this is how she’s feeling it just came out is joyful for you. Do you feel that way? Do you just build joyful and bouncy and sparkly because it certainly comes across
Tosca Reno [4:18]
that is my natural setpoint I feel that there are so many reasons to be joyful even when life hands you curveballs So, yeah, and and I also think the privilege of being in front of an audience and my audience looking up to me, deserves deserves that kind of joy and brilliance. So you know, that’s how I show up.
David Ralph [4:39]
How do you show up when you don’t feel like showing up? Because it’s all right. You know, people always say to me, oh, so why don’t you you’re like that and I say Well, sometimes I’m not and sometimes you have to kind of flick yourself into being
Tosca Reno [4:53]
all right and so especially right now I think with what’s happening in with a pandemic and and so many things in life. The world feels a little crazy. I don’t necessarily show up as fake and smiley and joyful, no. And I can admit that to my audience, I can say when there’s times that are tough, like, like two weeks ago, you know, my mother nearly passed away. And so on that particular day, and for a few days after, there was no feeling of joy, but I’ll tell you, I could I could find peace in that experience, simply because I had told I told my mother everything that she needed to hear about how I felt with her and about her. And that was such a gift for me such a gift to be able to say that. So, you know, I think in the end, what counts is the authenticity, David and I feel that’s what’s so beautiful about your show. It’s just, it’s raw, it’s real. It’s me, here we are. And, and we just show up and, and that’s what’s attractive.
David Ralph [5:51]
Some people don’t like it, and some people don’t, I suppose. So Zack. So let’s let’s go back into your early days, because in Join Up Dots, like that’s what we do. And I remember this email, and you said to me, but you know, you used to be obese. Now, I’m curious, because I’ve now seen the photos of you. Okay, you might have been carrying a few extra pounds. But you wasn’t a bass. Well, you you know, big, fat bass. You know, where where does a bass start, because I’m now totally confused, because you just look like just a lady to me.
Tosca Reno [6:25]
So I think you’re gonna have to help me with the translation into your I think it’s either stone or kilogrammes. But you know, at one point, I weighed 204 pounds. And, and so for me, a natural healthy body weight is 145 pounds. And so I was carrying quite a bit of excess weight. Ultimately, I’d lost 84 pounds, I got to a competitive weight, which means I was able to get on stage because after I lost the weight, I stepped on stage for the first time as a as a bodybuilder. And so, you know, obesity starts at 30 pounds of excess weight, it’s really not very much to become obese. And I was well into that category, David,
David Ralph [7:08]
but you still look healthy to me, you you just look like some lovely lady who would be sitting, munching through a bag of Doritos in the evening. And just being just being happy.
Tosca Reno [7:19]
Well, I was kind of eating my way into depression, because at the time that I had gained all that weight, I was in a marriage that was failing. That was the father of my three beautiful daughters, I now have four. But you know, I was eating my way eating my emotions, I was unhappy, there was a lot of domestic abuse in that home. And it wasn’t a good place to be David. So food became my companion until I realised that it was no longer
David Ralph [7:46]
when you are in a situation like backs. Are you looking at it and going? Well, I’m living a book here. I can see a movie, I can see a book, I can see a YouTube channel coming out of this situation, or are you just totally lost?
Tosca Reno [8:04]
No, I was lost. I had, I did not know my purpose. I think that was the key missing piece. And for many people who are sitting considering the idea that they are either overweight or unhealthy, you need to make a transition, whatever it is, not knowing your purpose, while you’re going to do any of that is is really like having no goal, no direction. It’s like a ship sailing off into the ocean not knowing which way it’s going to go. You won’t get results without a why you just won’t do it. And I had to find my why. And I had to get to why by building small wins. And small wins build confidence and from confidence from that new position I could I could really take my life back and realise Oh, I do have a purpose. I do have something to offer here.
David Ralph [8:47]
But But interestingly, because I was actually in bed with you this morning reading reading your about page, I want to tell the wife I won’t tell her why. And it was a long, long about page and it kept me right to the bottom because it was it was a good good hold yarn as we say there. And there was a bit that I thought this is interesting. But your your late husband, Robert Kennedy came into a school playground and started sort of talking to you. And it was obvious from the text but he actually saw something shining in you but you couldn’t see. And he was you’re like Dumbo magic feather. He was giving you that belief to fly but you couldn’t have seen for yourself. If he looked back on that and say it wasn’t Robert Kennedy that came in it was Jim Kennedy, some plumber that just started talking to you. Do you think your life would be totally different? Did you need that? Or was it always going to happen?
Tosca Reno [9:46]
I think it was fated to happen. And I did need that because remember I came into his circle of influence at a time when I hardly believed in myself at all. I was still working on getting rid of the excess weight I just left My first husband, I didn’t know who he was. But it was through him challenging me to think of a higher goal for myself and to actually start to compete to be a bodybuilder he challenged me without it was like, Oh, well, the bowl just saw the red flag and went, I’m going for it. Because David, I had a thought, at that very moment, very little in my life felt like it was in control. When somebody offers you an opportunity like that. You’re going to take it, and semi saw you that telesco a
David Ralph [10:31]
lot of people wouldn’t a lot of people would go, Oh, it’s a bit odd. Oh, I can’t do this. Oh, yeah. But you you went for it all paste in here.
Tosca Reno [10:41]
I needed it. I went right in there. And what I discovered was, I must have been a bit of a freak because Ah, do I ever love to push the weights, I love to live heavy. I like to sling kettlebells around, you know, the feeling of being strong. And my physical body was was medicine for me.
David Ralph [11:00]
I’ve never been in a gym in my life. I am quite proud of the fact that I am. Somebody was on the show. And they called me fat skinny. Because there’s not like a bit of fat on me. But I don’t really do anything to get that way. I just kind of, I just starve myself. I’m kind of on the Ethiopian diet. I just get two empty plates each day and say that’s good. Now, when you are good, and this is another thing I saw the other day I saw this really fat person running. And I looked at them, I almost wanted to wind down my window and applaud them because I thought yeah, you know, just getting going is really difficult when you’re, you know, you’re fat. But this person was really overweight and really red in the face. And I want you to give him a hug and say go for it. Now get mad when you look back on that person. Where was the struggle getting from where you were to where you are? Was it physical? Was it aches and pains? Or was it mental?
Tosca Reno [12:02]
No, it was completely mental, emotional, it was living under that 17 years of abuse and totally lacking and belief in myself and feeling that I wasn’t worthy. And finally, one day, David, this is what happened Truly, I walked upstairs. And we were at the time living in a Victorian home, which the stairs are very narrow and Hi. And I was I was trying to get upstairs to say goodnight to my kids. And so I was 3839 years old and I collapsed on the stairs, because I was carrying too much weight. And there. My dad had always suffered with heart disease. And that was the moment halfway up the stairs where I realised Oh my God, if I don’t do something about this soon, I won’t be around to see my kids. I will I can’t even get up the stairs to kiss him. Goodnight right now. What kind of mother am I and and that really shocked me into action.
David Ralph [12:57]
It’s weird when you say that because I used back when I was in corporate land. I had a heart attack at work. It turned out to be stress. But I was convinced it was a heart attack. And I sort of walked out the office. I didn’t tell anybody. And it was weird. I actually had a heart attack while I was doing a training course I was standing up in front of people. And part of me was doing the content. Part of me was thinking oh my God, I’ve had a heart attack. And the other part of me was kind of thinking any read it was the only time in my life. I’ve split into three personalities. It was a weird moment where the other part was going, this is amazing. You’ve had a heart attack and you’re diagnosing yourself, but you’re still doing the content out. And it was really strange. And the only thing that I could think of was I wasn’t going to see my kids grow. And that was that was a that. Yeah. And it was strange. Nothing else was important to me. My marriage wasn’t important to me, although it really is. But it was just about my kids growing up and I wasn’t going to be there.
Tosca Reno [13:56]
Listen, I still can connect with that. And so that has always been my why was a capital W I have now four daughters. And now I have two grandchildren. And so I can now include my grandchildren in this great journey. And my wife just gets stronger every day because of those people in my life. And this is my why every day I get up and I do the things I do. Because at the end of it is that goal to live as long life as I possibly can in full house and watch these beautiful people grow.
David Ralph [14:25]
Brilliant. Brilliant, right? So we’re going to take you back then. Because if you go over to your Wikipedia page, and I was looking at this earlier, you banged out a load of books really, really quick, seem slow. But I have to say Tosca, you you you’re not you’re not doing the old 600 episodes of the same book. The The key thing when you get a branding like that, which is obviously really powerful and I can see why it’s done so well for you. Is it obvious? Is it like oh my god, oh my god. I’ve just suddenly discovered that Something or do you go? I bet somebody else has done this. I bet it’s already out there.
Tosca Reno [15:05]
You know? No, it was a discovery. And it came on the heels of competing for the first time and watching the response from other women in that 40 something demographic, who previously hadn’t given themselves permission to take care of themselves or to stand on a stage or even think of themselves as having any kind of purpose at that stage of life. And this is where I found my voice and my following the eating clean was the vehicle and it was just absolutely tremendous. The day that I discovered that I remember standing upstairs in my bedroom putting on a skirt that I couldn’t fit years before and it fell right off. I mean, I went, I found it. This is it. This is what people need to know. And writing one book, any book, 17 books, selling now 3.5 million copies of these books is is was I couldn’t have envisioned it, but it was a natural outcome of that discovery.
David Ralph [15:58]
It’s great, isn’t it? Eat clean. I’m, you know, I do a lot of business coaching. And I always say to people, we need to get the essence of what you’re doing within as few words as possible. So when somebody sees it, they understand and eat loveleen is is spot on. It’s probably couldn’t be any shorter than that could be. It couldn’t
Tosca Reno [16:20]
be it couldn’t be tighter. Nikes is three words. Just what is it? I’m
David Ralph [16:26]
loving it, just loving it. That’s McDonald’s. Oh, well, I’m loving it. Yeah, I think you’ve beaten them as well. So eat clean. How did how did the whole branding come about? Because it’s very clever. It’s very clean. It’s very precise. But more often than not, we can’t see the branding until it’s been presented to a somehow. So how did it come about? Was it a publisher that said, This is what we think you should do? Were you laying in the bath and then suddenly you rica moment?
Tosca Reno [16:58]
No, it came from another challenge, which essentially was Robert, that was my second husband. But at the time, he was really not my husband. He was my mentor. And he basically said, look, I think you can write a book, I think you should write a book about your journey. And we had a big table. It was about 20 feet long. And he was still in the day where he wrote on the yellow long legal foolscap in pen. And he said, Let’s bang out the subjects right now. And we basically walked around the table and laid down a sheet of paper with the headings of chapters. And when that was done, it was it was a book and then it just exploded. From there. It was unbelievable. And so we published the first acclaimed book in January of 2005. And in Canada, a best seller is 5000 copies, and we thought, Okay, well, we’ll do a print run of 5000 copies. And that’ll keep us busy for a couple of years. David, we sold out in two weeks.
David Ralph [17:51]
Hmm. Oh, well, I can imagine. I can imagine because I look at it. I’m not a great eater. You know, I can go days without eating. I don’t seem to get any hunger pains. My wife was I Did you have lunch today? And like, I didn’t really think about it. And you know, food isn’t my thing. But I’m very aware recently, that maybe my diet isn’t conducive to energy levels, where when I do eat, maybe I’m eating the wrong thing. And I stumbled across this by a guy who said he went on one of these kind of food testing programmes, and he found out that he shouldn’t be eating bass and he should be eating that. And he said, literally, I was like, electricity was coming off me. I felt tingly, I felt sparkly, and looking at you bouncing around the stage and stuff up or she’s a tingly, sparkly woman. So have you worked out what eat clean means to you compared to other people? Did you know that I can eat this and I can’t eat that.
Tosca Reno [18:50]
Yes, I know the foods that I respond the best to really I run greens I will eat greens all day long and protein and healthy fats. I can easily do without carbohydrate from things like grains. But yeah, and and David Timberland sparkly to me is all about energy, right? It’s it’s light, it’s light energy. And when you’re eating food that serves that purpose in your body that really aligns with your particular biochemical makeup. You are basically plugged into some sort of energy source that is off the charts. And you know, today I’m 61 years old, but I can run around after people much younger than me and keep up with them much more than many others. So I feel I feel good.
David Ralph [19:37]
Any funny with I said this to my dad the other day, my dad’s 83. And he doesn’t look at three. So he tells everybody how old he is. And when you’re younger, you don’t tell anybody how old you are. Be and then when you get old. All you want to do is tell people how old you are. And I said to him, just stop telling nobody’s interested. And so now now we’ve yourself. This is Kind of like genius, but your business will get more valuable as you get older. You know, you’re at the peak thing where people in their 60s 70s and 80s, who are living longer have the ailments that are kind of derailing their life, you know, my mom had a big stroke. That was on February 8, I think she’s just come out of hospital today. And she’s been in and out of hospital, she’s gone from a reasonably fit and healthy woman to absolutely no life. Now, if I could go back in time and get her to be focused on a diet and eating clean, and all that kind of stuff I would do so with the issues that are causing the weld to assess the ageing population, your business is going to go from strength to strength, even though it already is.
Tosca Reno [20:48]
Well, you know, and I think that’s a beautiful trajectory for this type of brand. Because there’s not too many exemplars as we get older. There’s not too many mentors, that are teaching how to do this. So we’ve been given this extension of life, but you know, from 60 onwards, how do we live it? How do we how do we bring it into its full glory? How do we still have a brain that goes along with a functioning body? And you know, in one word, eating clean truly also means striking sugar, that is a key for me.
David Ralph [21:22]
I have sugar and this is something I was thinking this morning, I have sugar in my cereal, and I don’t eat chocolate. And I kind of think to myself, I don’t have any sugar. I don’t mean on my cereal, but I do I bet is in sort of other stuff. I don’t think I could give up the sugar on my complex.
Tosca Reno [21:41]
Yeah, a lot of people say that. And yet, when I do work with clients, one on one or with my audience, I always say the same thing. The very thing that you can’t live without is probably the thing that’s keeping you from achieving optimal wellness. So if you really want to make changes in your life, this is not a lecture, David is just an observation.
David Ralph [22:00]
lecture me lecture me, spring, Tosca. Tell me what I’m doing wrong?
Tosca Reno [22:05]
Well, well, it’s really a sugar, the modern food diet has not been working. You know, we’ve been experimenting with refined sugar and refined refined carbohydrates for about 400 years. And the first actually the first refined food that ever really came into being was just before World War One with the with the cornflake in the 40s. And when we started adding sugar to that refined food, what we started doing was removing nutrients from our bodies systematically. And the experiment hasn’t worked. Because with those modern engineered foods, what’s happening is we’re consuming more sugar, more refined carbohydrates that we’re having more and more heart attack, it’s still the number one killer, we’re seeing far more overweight and obesity, we’re seeing more personality disorders, and metabolically speaking, so there’s something called metabolic fitness. And there are really only 12% of the population that’s metabolically fit, meaning heart and blood sugar management is in disorder for the bulk of the population.
David Ralph [23:09]
That kind of lost me so is that if that’s a really bad thing, is that like a ticking time bomb kind of thing?
Tosca Reno [23:16]
Well, it is metabolic fitness is how does your body handle blood sugar? And how does your heart work. And when we see that the incidence of blood sugar dysregulation or disorders is increasing, while weight is increasing, while Heart disease is increasing, then you know that there’s something not right. And this all started around about the same time as we began to eat, in air quotes, modern foods that are full of either refined sugar or refined carbohydrate. And it’s just because the body doesn’t recognise these things as food, they’re not food, they’re they are denatured ingredients that we consume simply to fill the belly, but they’re not filled with nutrients that help to regulate blood sugar or help the art work properly.
David Ralph [24:03]
It’s interesting because I Well, I don’t know if you find this interesting, but I found it interesting. And it’s, it’s my podcast, I’m going to tell you anyway, I was watching a documentary The other day, and they were talking about sort of mediaeval times in the United Kingdom, so kings and queens and castles and different things. And they were talking about peasants, and the peasants used to sort of have no money and I’d be living off the land. And when you see peasants in buildings now, they’ve always got terrible teeth, and terrible acne and they’re muddy, and they’re sort of like dreadful, and they were saying, but they weren’t, they weren’t. They had lovely teeth because everything was like more vegetables. They didn’t have any sugar in their diet. Their skin was brilliant. They look kind of like so a Brad Pitt of the day. Exactly, but a sort of a dirty version of him. And when you look at that, you think to yourself, well, we kind of progressed and can we we kind of move forward if the peasants living on the land. look wonderful and healthy in their hair was luxurious. And now we’re buying products and chemicals and everything to try to get that. What we’ve got to do is, is I tell you what I’m going to say, Tosca. I think we need to eat clean. I think Natalie, I think that’s what we got to do. And that’s a branding that I’m going to try not to trademark before we we finish this show.
Tosca Reno [25:21]
I think we got to eat clean, David, for sure.
Yeah, the closer that we eat to the earth, in other words, nutrient dense whole, properly prepared, well sourced foods, the healthier we are. And there, there’s so much science to back that up that as soon as we start eating the refined food, things like the structure of our teeth, even wearing braces, cavities, sinus problems, all the rest of it. Soon as we start eating those refined foods, we start changing that health, it even changes our structure and our brain. So for me eating clean was just I healed myself from blood sugar dysregulation. I was not diagnosed with type two diabetes, but I was on my way. And I also healed myself from any heart issues. And then I became, you know, competitively fit, which I enjoyed. And it This was all medicine. For me food is medicine. Movement is medicine.
David Ralph [26:17]
When I was watching a documentary The other day, I don’t watch much TV. But if I do, I watch a documentary. And there’s a really good series on Netflix when Zac Efron has gone around the world. And there was one that was about a chef in Peru, I think, who was only cooking food from the same altitude, and within sort of two miles, and he was saying, but if you pick the apple, by the time it’s gone three miles, it’s lost 30% of its nutritional value in taste. And by the time we get it, it’s like a sort of mild version of it. Now, I went to my daughter, my daughter’s just bought this house, and she’s got an orchard in the back garden. And my experience of orchards growing up, it was always maggots and flies and horrible things in these apples. And so she said, know that nice apples and nice Apple, just pull one out and try one. And I thought, Oh, here we go, I’m gonna I’m gonna buy into it. And as a magnet or something is going to be dreadful. Now, as I say to my kids, when something’s really good, because it winds them up, and he embarrasses them. I say, That’s sexual. That is sexual that and the Apple was like the best apple. And I’ve been saying to people, because I picked about 20 of them. An apple, an apple and the postman’s coming to the door guy, I’ve had enough of your apples, I go to Apple. That there it’s like, it’s like blowing my mind. But just pulling something off the tree and tastes so different to what I’ve been buying in a supermarket for the last 30 years.
Tosca Reno [27:45]
Well, you know, I think about I often think we’re how are we any different than, let’s say whales, who go to a specific area to eat a specific type of foods, so they can nurture healthy offspring at a specific time. And then they travel elsewhere to you know, to complete their nutrition cycle, I think, how are we any different, we need to be eating close to the earth in in as closer proximity as we possibly can, to where we live. So we can get not only the most nutrient dense food at their nutritious peak, which is usually at harvest time, and give ourselves the nutrients we need to remain strong. So this is what I mean by properly prepared and well sourced. That’s the full definition of eating clean. I think you’re onto it. We need to have sexual food, sexual experiences when we’re eating. Because good is orgasmic.
David Ralph [28:33]
I’m talking about this talking about this. But I lost when I when I discovered you and I was perusing perusing your videos. My wife I always say to her, let’s have some broccoli. She says I don’t like broccoli. I don’t love broccoli. And I don’t want to have broccoli, I go add broccoli. It’s lovely. I now fine. But broccoli is a bit of an aphrodisiac. And that’s probably why she’s she hasn’t put it on my plate for the last 30 years. But who would have thought Who would have thought that broccoli can put the old lead in the old pencil as they say?
Tosca Reno [29:04]
Well, did I tell you? Or did you perhaps read about the broccoli challenge? This is this is what I tell everyone.
David Ralph [29:10]
I’ve signed up. I’ve signed up already. I haven’t even heard it. But I just think it’s gonna be a life changer for me.
Tosca Reno [29:15]
Well, David, you’re onto something. Because if you do want to get the lead in the pencil, whether it’s a woman or a man because we all need lead. And that’s just like not not it’s metaphorically, but everybody, everybody in your relationship. Whatever kind of relationship it is, needs to eat one cup of broccoli a day for at least a week. And the reason that is so powerful is because it’s loaded with vitamin C and other types of nutrients that help to bring good health to your cardiac vessels. Well, if anybody’s trying to get led anywhere in the body, and again, metaphorically but if you want to get that that sexual response as strongly as possible, you need to be giving good tonic to your blood vessels, otherwise you’ll never be able to rise to the occasion.
David Ralph [30:00]
What happens if I’m rising to the occasion too often? And and that the partner the partner that you’re you’re rising is directed at? Isn’t isn’t up for it, that’s going to be bad, isn’t it?
Tosca Reno [30:12]
difficult, and I blame
David Ralph [30:13]
broccoli and like slip it into the underneath the complex or something and so the other person doesn’t know.
Tosca Reno [30:21]
Put it in this movie, or else you’re going to be doing a lot of work with left and right.
David Ralph [30:27]
No, I genuinely do. I genuinely. Yes. So let’s jump back again. Good. Yeah, go go free.
Tosca Reno [30:35]
Well, I was gonna say sexual health or and the urge to express it is part of our total health. It is a natural expression of who we are as human beings. So when you are feeling in this, as you call tingly and sparkly, robust health, that is a natural outcome. It’s who we are as creative human beings to actually engage in that type of activity.
David Ralph [30:59]
You notice that there’s no one listening to this, there’s no one listening to this. But once once my wife is in a bad mood, and this is stuck in my mind, and I was giving her the big seduction routine, and I was on to a winner. And she said to me, I know what you’re doing. She said it’s not gonna happen. It’s all messin effort. And and that was her that was her response. And I think that’s a good name for a book as well in there.
Tosca Reno [31:24]
I think it’s a great name. Are you gonna also trademark that one before? Loving everything?
David Ralph [31:28]
I really am. I feel like this is the new me, I’m gonna be starting to eat my way to to a fabulous 50 or something like that. Now, with your books as well, right? Eat clean. What interested me is there’s one for men. And I thought, what about that? Why, what what’s different about men eating clean to say, women? What is it different?
Tosca Reno [31:54]
It is men obviously are biochemically different than women, not the least of which is their testosterone needs to be acknowledged a greater muscle mass, they metabolise things differently, they don’t have the same sets of hormones or hormonal experiences in their bodies. So yes, I do find that that men require different types of a different slant on eating clean. And the key one here is to eat more protein. And really, men and women both need to eat more protein, but the protein itself will help create muscle mass in the body, even if your level of physical activity and David you say that, you know, you’re not really working out, but you do your cycling.
David Ralph [32:34]
I am saying no, you’re good. Yes. You’ve kept up with it. I am cycling. Yes, yes.
Tosca Reno [32:39]
And so your your quadriceps are huge burners of metabolic fuel. They’re incredible. And they’re also part of what’s called the metabolic catalyst. So the biggest muscle groups in your body, your quads, your glutes and your abdominal core. And they’re all being used while cycling, are also the hungriest. So when you’re working those, you’re stimulating fat burning, and you’re stimulating hunger, and you need to respond to that with protein.
David Ralph [33:06]
I’m going to tell you something about the cycling, because this is quite a big thing, right? I’ve been cycling since lockdown in March all the way through the summer, and it’s very pleasant, you’re riding around. And if you can’t want more, and I’ve started to ride and is in October now, and the rain has been lashing down on me and it’s not as pleasant. It’s kind of liberating, and you feel three and you feel like you’re in touch with the elements somehow, but it’s not as nice. And I thought to myself, I’m going to break here, I’m gonna break I know winter is on its way, it’s not going to be good. So I sold my car, I sold my car to cut it off at source so that I would have no other option but back to keep on riding through the winter.
Tosca Reno [33:49]
Wow. Well, and and maybe you can consider putting your bike up on a trainer. Like the wahoo kicker or something where you can just take your bike and bring it indoors and continue the training.
David Ralph [33:59]
I wouldn’t do it. either. I know what I’m like, or I have to use it as a transport instead of actually sort of you get these mad people and they go out every day running and stuff and I think do you have to do it every day? It’s probably not good for you. You know, it’s just do it if you’re being chased by a lion. Brilliant. But yeah, just come home from a hard day’s work and think you’ve got to go out for a run. Well, while we’re on that subject, obviously you because you are a fitness guru. Is that madness when somebody comes home and they’re really tired to do that kind of thing every day or should I applaud them again?
Tosca Reno [34:38]
No, I think you bring up something very important which people miss in in fitness training, which is recovery and rest is as important as fitness. So my cycle of training is always two days on one day off. So two days of training where I tried to hit all aspects of my body and heart lung engine, and they have one day off and the one day off can be just walking Active rest, yoga, stretching, whatever or nothing at all. But without rest, your body doesn’t have a chance to recover. Your muscles don’t have a chance to repair themselves so they can get on with the business of, you know, cycling or training the next couple of days. So, but but I also understand that for many people exercise is medicine. In fact, in that book that dr. john ratty wrote called spark 30 minutes of physical mobility of some sort, at a heart rate Lobo of 65% or greater, performed five to six days of the week, is as effective if not more, so then Prozac for most people struggling with anxiety or depression. So it’s, you know, I don’t diss anybody who’s doing it. But I think it’s important to know the reasons why. And also to know that rest is important.
David Ralph [35:47]
Yeah, no, I agree with you. And I know in the entrepreneurial world, so many people are dealing with depression, big time. And due to the fact of comparison of businesses, we all look at Tosca Reno’s business, and we go, Oh, that’s what I want. And mine doesn’t look as good as that. Or the fact that people are looking at Facebook and stuff. Now, I always say to people, they say to me, oh, sometimes I just feel down, I don’t feel like doing it, I say, well, don’t do it, go out. And I’ve discovered since locked down again. But sometimes I come up with all the intention to my office to work. And I just feel really slumpy. And so now I go off and do gardening. And I only have to do half hour of something. And then I feel ready to do it. It’s much better to sort of be back and forth. Which is interesting, actually. Because now I say that when I was a manager up in the City of London, I used to get in trouble with the directors, by letting my team go off and play table tennis during work hours. And I used to argue that it’s better for them to run around for five minutes and then come back to their desk, energised and ready to go more than just sitting there for nine hours trying to do cold calling or whatever they do. It’s it’s a big thing that we’ve got to focus in on as well. Isn’t it Tosca, the fact that we were not terminators,
Tosca Reno [37:10]
right. So I think what what that’s addressing is the need as human beings, part of our gift on this earth is mobility, physical mobility, we’ve evolved as mobile people. And to honour that just as you did with the table tennis or now you’re gardening, which I applaud totally, because I have a garden myself is the idea that movement on the hour is important. And I’ve incorporated that using my rebounder, which is the mini trampoline, I’ve heard you other guests speak about bounce, etc. But I use my my rebounder therapeutically on the hour, just for five minutes right at the top of each hour, especially when I’m writing creating busy sitting down during the quarantine, whatever. And what happens there is you’re getting a complete flush of your lymphatic system, you’re getting your your immune system is going to be stimulated, sort of hyper stimulated to create all the natural killer cells, you need to keep yourself healthy. You’re You’re circulating your blood, you’re bringing blood back up to your brain, you’re getting your heart lung engine moving and you’re stimulating, stimulating creativity. So, you know, I salute you for the table tennis and the gardening and the cycling in the rain. And I do think we have to play
David Ralph [38:23]
off the old facts, I still feel a bit crap, which is where I’m, I’m at the moment thinking to myself, I’ve made changes, but I don’t think they’re the right changes, you know. And I think that’s one of the things at some somebody once said to me that everyone can play a musical instrument. But generally people pick the wrong instrument for them. So it could be that somebody can play the piano, other people should play the guitar somebody. And I think exercise might be the same where certain exercise would give me the spark and the tingle, which I’m not getting and certain food, but it’s the finding it isn’t it?
Tosca Reno [39:01]
Let’s say it is a journey of discovery for sure. And people will say to me, Well, what is the best exercise to do and I can list off 1000 accessory exercises. I didn’t say that very well. But
David Ralph [39:13]
you know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. Word sex and exercise, I think munching broccoli while we’ve been taught,
Tosca Reno [39:23]
for sure. But all I’m gonna say is that the best exercise to do is the one that you will continue to do and that one that makes you feel the best. So if you know that you need to have the wind in your hair and you’re on a bicycle or running or snowshoeing or whatever it is, then that’s the one you need to do. It’s no good me saying, swing 100 pound kettlebell for 20 minutes and see how you feel about that. If you’re not going to do it, and it doesn’t make you feel good, it’s not going to help you. So you have to find the thing that works for you. And that’s a bit of a journey. Thankfully, there’s a bazillion different exercises to try. And with regard to food, it’s the same thing I can tell you the 30 3040 rule is going to work 30% fat 30% protein, vegetable or animal and then 40% complex carbohydrate. But that is just a formula from which to spring, and then you’re going to adjust it to suit you. So it’s a bit of a journey. But that is what the World Health Organisation defines as wellness, it says wellness is not the absence of disease. It’s the presence of the dynamic pursuit of what you eat, which I call eating, clean exercise, and emotional self care. And that’s the bit that I’ve added to my journey by necessity, David, with all the things that have happened to me over the last several years.
David Ralph [40:39]
So for the people out there listening, who was thinking, yeah, I think I might start to eat clean and look after myself. One of the problems with cookbooks, you get a cookbook from Gordon Ramsay or Jamie Oliver or somebody for Christmas. And then it sits on the shelf. And but every now and again, you feel a bit inspired, and you reach up and the first one is roasted armadillo. And you think to yourself, oh, the hell’s got armadillo, and you close the book and you put it away, you’d never got the ingredients, or any of these recipes in your cupboard. With the eat clean is a kind of easy stuff for people to get. Is it in most supermarkets? Or do they have to sort of hunt down a Brazilian shaman to find these things?
Tosca Reno [41:22]
It’s the question I get asked frequently. And David, because I am not in, in the sense of Gordon Ramsay, or Jamie Oliver as chef, I think about the ordinary woman or man who’s in the kitchen, going to make a meal. And though that’s the way I cook, that’s the way I present food. I’ve tested everything in my own kitchen. And I present food that is going to appear not only in your grocery store or online service if you have it, but that will easily appear on your kitchen table. But it’s clean, I’m not going to have it all filled with with sugar and weird ingredients that are going to harm you. The end result is always going to be an enhancement in wellness because I think of a meal every opportunity to eat a meal is an opportunity to infuse your body with nutrients to make you well. That’s my goal.
David Ralph [42:08]
Now on the list as well is the kids and I know my kids, my youngest to 18 and 15. And they’re still in that stage. I’m gonna tell you this, but they only have Heinz tomato ketchup. Hmm. But they actually haven’t been having that every night when they go to bed. We pour another bottle into the Heinz ketchup. And they haven’t tweaked it like 20 years, every one of my kids has gone through this kind of being being fooled by their parents, but they’re eating one being and they’re not eating another because kids are just so fussy. And can imagine with kids, when you say to him, we’re gonna eat clean tonight kids aren’t Do we have a mom that we have to? How does that work with kids?
Tosca Reno [42:52]
You don’t do it. You have to do it by stealth just like you did. Although, when if your children listen to your podcast now they know.
David Ralph [42:59]
They don’t listen to this rubbish. I think they often say I was listening to a podcast and I go, what’s it and they go? No, no, it wasn’t funny of yours. My son actually said, I hear enough of you in the house. Why would I want to hear anything more? Oh, this is a fair point, I suppose.
Tosca Reno [43:18]
Okay, so So the reason for the ketchup? trickery Is it because you’re trying to avoid giving them too much sugar in the ketchup because that is a huge problem.
David Ralph [43:27]
Now it’s just because it’s cheaper. The one that we use cheaper and it tastes exactly the same as as far as I’m concerned.
Tosca Reno [43:33]
So the next time you’re doing that, just have a quick look at the label. And that would be my heads up is my my goal for people is although again, the World Health Organisation says a reasonable intake of sugar is six grammes a day, I like to get way lower than that. And ketchup is one of those vehicles loaded with sugar. So is cereal. And obviously so it was the Sugar Bowl and cake and pastry and all that stuff. But less than six is really really good. Especially if you want to a you have great cognitive function in kids. And you know, great sexual function in the bedroom.
David Ralph [44:06]
or anywhere in the kitchen or anywhere. Yeah, where halfway up the stairs, whatever. Whatever happens, we can we can make it happen in our life. Just just lock the kids up, right? So normally what I do I play a lot of motivational speeches on the show and stuff. But this this episode, I want you to very much focus in on your experience. Now. I’m gonna do this live normally, I might do it after the show. But I’d like to invite you back on to the show again, if you’d be open to it to talk about the more that the business issues and the things that you’ve gone through because otherwise this is this would be a director’s cut. Would you be open to that.
Tosca Reno [44:46]
David, I’d love to thank you so much.
David Ralph [44:48]
Well, we will definitely have you back. That’s brilliant. So what I want to do is, I want to give maybe three things for the listeners who are busy, they’re commuters Yeah, working in corporate land. And normally they grab a Starbucks and a bagel or something on the way to work. And then they, they sort of just, you know, quick, convenient food, what is something that they could do? instantly that could change them, and start getting the motivation to actually think sparkly and tingly is the way to go.
Tosca Reno [45:20]
All right, this is going to be so simple. It’s going to be academic. I’m going to tell you what the number one nutritional deficiency in the world is. And it is water. So the thing you could do for yourself today, tomorrow, immediately is the moment you wake up, the moment you wake up, you have a litre of water beside your bed, and you get that first litre down within the first hour. David, I have helped people lose over 100 pounds simply by adding that one simple trick into their food intake. Water, and new water is important for the complete function of your body because we are 75 80% water. And yet there are between I’m going to say there’s 5% of people who never take a drink of water in a day. And children are especially susceptible they need to be offered water as their first beverage of choice. So why are we
David Ralph [46:11]
going to jump into that? Because I drink about 10 litres a day of water? Yeah, good. So some people have said to me that’s too much. And then they asked me you know, how much do you wave Oh, David and I say five gallons a leg. But is that too much? 10 litres?
Tosca Reno [46:29]
Well, there’s such a thing as you can you can actually overwater yourself and you can throw off your heartbeat, but in doing that because water carries minerals and if you dilute the minerals that are present in your blood too much you can give yourself a heart attack. So we don’t want to go there I I hope I hope 10 litres is potentially just a figure of speech for you. I don’t know but
David Ralph [46:49]
it’s true. I’ve got a bottle in front of me and it’s five litres and I drink fat before lunch. And then after lunch I finish it off before I go back to my home and leave my office.
Tosca Reno [47:00]
Okay, well but you’re also speaking a lot like I find speaking is thirsty work right and using your brain is thirsty work.
David Ralph [47:07]
So well. I’m okay, I’m not gonna pass out Tosca. Am I?
Tosca Reno [47:11]
Well, you haven’t yet if you’re feeling good, right?
David Ralph [47:13]
I’m not feeling good. That’s why I’ve got you on the show. Tosca, please. Are you stay with us, please.
Tosca Reno [47:20]
All right, so so I 10 litres. I like a lot. I can’t, I can’t. I’m not going to get all judgy but you know, three to four or five litres for physically active people is quite a lot of water. And that’s the goal should be at least three litres of water a day to get you well hydrated. It also depends on if you’re eating dehydrating foods, or what are dehydrating foods. sugar. Sugar is a thief it robs your body of water and vitamins and minerals, caffeinated beverages, orange juice, any kind of fruit juices are totally dehydrating. And I know people parents are like rolling their eyes right now going are you kidding me? But 100% so this is like
David Ralph [48:01]
a winch call deal kind of stuff. Or just pure all of it. Oh, okay, because I love an orange squash as we call it over here.
Tosca Reno [48:09]
Yeah, so even if you’re drinking eight ounces of orange juice poured from a jug in the morning, let’s say or anytime what you’re getting is the juice of three oranges. But most of it without the benefit of whatever is in a whole orange. So it’s, it’s it’s as bad as eating three, four or five tablespoons of sugar. There’s so much sugar in that it’s it’s a direct hit to your pancreas that takes a very long time. And it’s very expensive nutrient wise to process all that sugar. It’s just too much better to eat the whole orange and have a glass of water on the side.
David Ralph [48:42]
It’s interesting stuff. You know your stuff, don’t you?
Tosca Reno [48:46]
Well, I like to take it seriously. I’m a nutritional therapy practitioner, which you should start
David Ralph [48:51]
a business on this stuff. Do you know that? I’ve just realised you know your stuff, you should start a business.
Tosca Reno [48:57]
Alright, well, but I’ll be talking to you then. where I’ll work with you.
David Ralph [49:01]
Wait, yes. Oh, yeah, I’m back with you three things back
Tosca Reno [49:04]
that so the water is key. And I do think that first leader before the day even begins because you’ve been thirsty or not drinking all night. Now as far as a quick snack, forget about the bagels and the carbohydrates. Grab yourself one of the apples from from David’s daughter’s orchard, and a handful of raw unsalted whole nuts. And the reason for that is you’re going to get fat protein fibre complex carbohydrate, vitamins, minerals, all the good stuff. And if
David Ralph [49:34]
you get a when don’t you get a lot of wind? From from nuts from nuts? No, it’s not because I had gout. And I told that I had to eat a load of walnuts. And literally, I was struggling to keep the dubay on the bed. It was it made me so windy. It was terrible.
Tosca Reno [49:51]
All right, well, some things do not work for people and we have to understand these things. So fairpoint
David Ralph [49:56]
Is that too much information. Now I’ve asked you to Much tosco
Tosca Reno [50:01]
know, we’ve talked about letting the pencil and doing your podcast in your underwear and you know, I believe I started the conversation with you about stripper shoes didn’t I? David?
David Ralph [50:09]
You did. But that was off air that was okay.
Tosca Reno [50:11]
Well, now it’s not.
Yes, but so if a food has that kind of negative implication in your body know that, discover it, know it and check it that didn’t work for me. Let me try something else. So you can find loads of combination not so just an easy transportable source of fat and protein, but so is a hard boiled egg, although that may cause wind, who knows. But the thing is, I have a bank of about 2000 recipes. So over on Tosca reno.com. You can find all sorts of answers to these types of questions. You can nourish yourself without great difficulty by taking transportable foods like hummus and raw vegetables, apples and nuts or nut butter. I wonder if nut butter might be better for you, David? I don’t know.
David Ralph [50:54]
Don’t sound nice. So does it not butter?
Tosca Reno [50:57]
Well, it’s like it’s like peanut butter or almond butter. Right? We’re walnut better. It’s so good.
David Ralph [51:01]
Yeah, but my read on your website, but peanut butter is bad. And I love peanut butter,
Tosca Reno [51:06]
certain peanut butter. So so I’m going to go back to the definition of eating clean, which is eating nutrient dense whole properly prepared, well sourced foods? Well, if you go and buy a commercial peanut butter, the first ingredient is usually sugar or high fructose corn syrup or some version of it. It’s not always loads of nuts. Just like I heard recently, that subways bread doesn’t qualify as bread by most people’s standards, because there’s too much sugar in it. Right? Oh, yeah. So so so look at the source. Look at the type of peanut butter that you’re buying. Look at the type of food you’re buying and say is, when I look at the label, am I seeing a whole whack of ingredients that are not exactly nut butter? What am I eating? So if you’re buying a really good quality nut butter, all you’ll see on the label when you read it is not boom. And it’s just been ground into nut butter Piece of cake.
David Ralph [51:59]
I’ve ever seen that. And before we get to the last one, because I think we’ve done two now haven’t Wait, there’s one more we have we’ve done the three?
Tosca Reno [52:06]
Well, we’ve done
David Ralph [52:08]
to your data. Yeah, we got it say I’m a professional podcaster. But before before we sort of move on, I said to my wife that you was coming on the show. And I was saying to her, you know what we should do is cut back on the sugar. And she said if you cut back on the sugar, you get all wobbly you need sugar in your body. And that was a sort of response. Can you cut out sugar too much? Do you need some of it? Or is she just saying that because she likes about chocolate?
Tosca Reno [52:32]
I don’t know if you remember back in the day, cigarettes and sugar were prescribed by doctors as tonic for a lot of people that was back in the day, you know, maybe maybe at the turn 19, early 1900s. And we’ve come to discover that cigarettes are not a good experiment and sugar is not either. So I’m going to say to you that natural sugars which come from complex carbohydrates from things like the apple picked odier, orchard, berries, fruits, green leafy vegetables, etc. Those are the types of natural sugars we should be consuming. We don’t need to be adding refined sugar to the diet. If you want sweet, you can get it there are alternative sweets, and I don’t mean fake sweets. Even things like honey, maple syrup, date paste, you can make coconut sugar, those types of things that are a far more natural source of sweet if you really need it. But what happens David over time is if you do strike sugar from your diet, and I have a programme called starch sugar, if you do that, your palate changes completely. And then the other thing that happens is your blood sugar handling changes completely to respond. So when you’re feeling shaky like that, the answer is not to eat more sugar. The answer is to eat protein.
David Ralph [53:48]
Okay, I’m gonna play this podcast you might listen to it. Geez, she, she never listens to a word I say even though I say this as come from a reputable source, this person’s an expert, my wife, my wife won’t have it. Now, let’s have a big drumroll do little, little, little, little, the third, the third, what is the third thing that people can do.
Tosca Reno [54:10]
And the third thing that people can do is movement. So wherever and I’m just going to start with with the W word which is walk. If you can’t see yourself slinging around a kettlebell or jumping on a bike or hitting the gym, no problem. Walking is like fursuit for babies walking is the answer. And there’s a beautiful expression in Latin called insol v tour can be Lando, which means when I walk, I think and I solve problems. And this is a great meditative approach to movement that I find helps not only achieve this mobility that you need 30 minutes a day 65% max heart rate, but it also helps you get into a more meditative state. And that’s one of my my new sort of principles of wellness which is taking care of your emotional head heartspace
David Ralph [54:59]
which is a key point To Life nowadays, isn’t it, you know, people are definitely unhappy
Tosca Reno [55:04]
that they are and that the key to happiness lives within us. We can achieve miracles, within our own lives, by looking at things from a place of love instead of fear. That’s the definition of a miracle is shifting your perception from fear, to love, there was a miracle. So if you get up in the morning, and you’re feeling dreary, and you’re in fear, you shift that to love by looking for the first thing to be gratitude grateful for or getting yourself into your gym clothes and your trainers and going for a quick walk just being out in nature. And I know this all sounds, you know, yeah, but there’s so much science to support the value of this for your, for your head heartspace for your meditative soul for your creative self for your health, that it’s almost no denying it.
David Ralph [55:54]
No, I think it’s absolutely true. And, you know, whenever I’m a bit down, I don’t get down very often, but sometimes I just do. My wife often says, Come on, we go out to the woods. And ever since I was a kid, we used to go into the woods and play in the woods and make camps and stuff. I just generally feel happy in woods, you know, just walking around kicking leaves up and stuff. And it doesn’t take a lot to get the old sparkle back in. So yeah, I think there is a huge connection. And I think that’s one of the things people struggled with in lockdown was that inability to, to connect with people personally, touch people, and also be in nature and be free. I think, you know, that’s the big problem that people had interesting times they Tosca
Tosca Reno [56:38]
they are varying, and and also times that are testing us. There’s this word you stress, which is like a positive stress, that teaches us how to be differently. And I think that’s what COVID is doing. For us right now, the pandemic is teaching us that, although this is stressful, we can as human beings adapt because humans have done this through 10s of millions of years. And and so look for that adaptive success in you because you have the internal wealth already you’ve been through experiences is not the first one. And we can overcome this if we can just shift our perception from fear to love.
David Ralph [57:14]
Yeah, I agree. He’s made a big difference to me. And in positives, I think, more positives than negatives. Well, this is the end of the show. And of course, we’ve already invited Tosca back on to find out more about her ups and downs, her trials and tribulations leading to her business and, and believe me, you either about page she’s had a few ups and downs for a star. But of course, this is the part of the show that we call the Sermon on the mic, when we’re going to send her back in time to have a one on one with her younger self. And if she could go back in time and speak to the Tosca, what age would she speak to? And what advice would she give what we’re going to find out because I’m going to play the music. And when it fades, it’s fair time to talk. This is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [58:04]
We go with the speed of the show.
Tosca Reno [58:22]
Well, hello younger, self younger, 14 year old self, I’m so glad I have a moment to connect with you. Because I’ve learned a few things. And I think you should know about them. Now that I’ve got the benefit of experience, would you have a sit down and listen up? The key message I have for you is to always trust your gut. You’ve had solid inclinations before, and you chose not to pay attention to them. But you know, you’ve got to girl, you just have to, because ultimately, it’s for your best. Your inner self already knows. You came here created from the Divine Spirit, but various programmes, other people’s intentions, different plans, experiences, all those things that you chose to have steered you potentially away from that inner guidance and into different directions. Not to worry if I could suggest to you anything that would help you. It’s that everything you’ll go through in life is worth it. Every dot will join up to another.to create a beautiful line. That is your hero’s journey. It’s the arc of your life. Don’t be afraid of any of those dots. These are but moments in time and part of how you strengthen yourself. It’s all a mad adventure. A sometimes painful, but often joyous ride and you have the privilege to be here. Do this with a completely open heart and let it all settle in because the learning is magnificent. I have to say, though younger self, I admire something about you. I love your spontaneity and creativity. These are things you must nurture. If you feel these passions within yourself, and you can’t stop yourself from doing them, to never stop yourself from doing them, continue, because this is your gift, and you must honour it. Continue to show up as this soul, you are needed, and your best work is yet to come. Don’t trade away any of these things about yourself mistakenly believing that someone else knows better about your needs. They don’t. You do? Never dim your light. As I know you’ve done it in the past because others are threatened by it. Shine your light as brightly as you can. The world needs you. Just as you are. Shine On Girl, I believe in you.
David Ralph [1:00:56]
Ah, lovely stuff. Lovely stuff. So Tosca, what’s the number one best way that our audience can connect with you?
Tosca Reno [1:01:04]
Thank you, David. So you can reach me at Tosca reno.com. And I will be there. That’s the easiest way to reach me.
David Ralph [1:01:11]
And there’s a load of stuff on there isn’t it as live videos as recipes. As you know, people really don’t ever have to buy any of your products. It all seems to be on there for free.
Tosca Reno [1:01:22]
There are a lot of free resources. I did that David, as I felt I was obliged to show up that way during the pandemic, I I could feel the fear that was coming from people that I wanted to answer it with the gift that I had was to give and to teach and to nurture and support.
David Ralph [1:01:36]
Excellent stuff. Wow. Okay. So Tosca, thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up a few of your dots. And of course, you’re gonna come back again, to join up even more dots. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures. Tosca Reno. Thank you so much.
Tosca Reno [1:01:56]
Okay, that it’s a great pleasure. Thank you.
David Ralph [1:02:00]
Yes, the lovely Tosca Reno. So he’s got an amazing business. And it’s an amazing story. That’s why I’ve invited her back on the show. Because it really is a roller coaster of not knowing yourself, and then having somebody show you what you can do. And then personal belief, and then it all comes crashing down. And Ben grows up again. But everyone out there that thinks, you know, how do I get things going? And how do I grow then this is this is a real good starting point to think, yeah, I can overcome anything I can work through. Because Tosca has done that. Until next time, thank you so much for being here. I’m getting a load of emails from people saying, this person would be great on the show, that person will be great. We’re reaching out to some of them. Some of them we think, aren’t quite right for the show. But certainly, thank you for back because it makes it more interesting for us. And, yeah, we see you again. And if anybody’s out there that’s done something personally amazing, a personal challenge or whatever. Let us know. So we can share it with the world. And then you’ve got personal connection to us and accountability. You say you’re doing it, we share it with the world. 20 billion people is there 20 billion people on the planet? Probably not. But every single person listens to Join Up Dots. Thank you to Tosca. Thank you to you guys. And I’ll see you again. Cheers. See ya, bye.
Outro [1:03:23]
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