Victoria Mavis: Mindset Leads To Pure Mind Magic

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Intro [0:00]
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK David Ralph

David Ralph [0:25]
Good morning, everybody. Good morning. And welcome to the that I know that the billion episode of join up dots whatever it is, welcome to the show. It’s gonna be a great one because I’ve already had the delight to spend time with the lady today as she interviewed me on her own podcast pure magic mind recently, and it was obvious that there that there was a star that needed to be brought on to my show. She’s been fascinated by magic since early childhood when she got her first magic box at a tender age of seven. And at the age of 15, Europe’s largest magic Association number Arctic Circle became aware of her and a few years later, she had the honor to be included in this exclusive circle. Now in a male dominated genre, our guest is still one of the few internationally recognized professional wizards, and one of the most recognized and sought after magicians worldwide. But that’s not all. She’s also a trained hypnotist and specialist in mental magic, and she deals with finding out how our mind is built how our thoughts take shape in reality, where the parts of the future can be predicted, which is of course a mystery that remains as inexplicable as magic itself. And she says we only use a small percentage of our mind ever wondered why some people seem to get along very easily while others always struggle? Even with the simplest things that are secrets to this mystery is our mind. We do have a kind of superpower with the abilities we possess. Now there are ways to train them like muscle, turning you into the mind magician of your own life and creating a new reality. You always wanted to do these deep insights into the world work as well in the business world, the professional world of entertainment, and how does it business operate? How do clients come like magic into a life instead of chasing a month after month like most people in the world? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Victoria Mavis. Good morning Victoria. How are you?

Victoria Mavis [2:20]
Good morning David Well, we well, how are you?

David Ralph [2:23]
I’m always well, Victoria. You know, we’ve already spent time in each other’s company. I was I was quite perky The last time we spoke.

Victoria Mavis [2:32]
Yes, definitely. And that was really a magical introduction David, I have to say, just one thing to remind you, you mixed up kind of the words of my podcast. So the original title is pure mind magic, just in case everyone is wondering. And now looking for the wrong podcast.

David Ralph [2:52]
You say I can tell you’re German, you’re so efficient. You picked it picked up on it instantly, right? I’ve changed up your mind magic. And yeah, you can go over to YouTube, iTunes any way you want. And you can find pure mind magic, and it’s a great show to listen to. So, magic. Let’s start off with magic. Because when I was a young kid in the United Kingdom, we were I was obsessed with magic. I wasn’t very good. I could do a few magic tricks here and there. But we had a guy called Paul Daniels who was a legend in the United Kingdom. Did he his name travel to Germany? Were you aware of the legend of Paul Daniels this this week wearing magician?

Victoria Mavis [3:31]
Oh yes, he was really an amazing magician. And he became a millionaire by performing magic. So he has always been a big idol of me and also his charming art to perform. And it was really a big loss when he passed away a few years ago. So I studied all his work, because he has several master classes out there for magicians, and unfortunately, I didn’t make it to his house because together with his wife he did there are some like magic parties for magicians from all around the world. And yeah, I just have to say he was amazing. And he was one of the first magicians who really made the transition to entertain on TV. And I know he had a show where he performed like every dance. He also said that sometimes he just learned a trick in the afternoon and evening he had to perform it. So this is like a nightmare for every magician, but Paul Daniels just made it.

David Ralph [4:33]
So what is it about magic that some people can just do it? Is it just practice, practice, practice? Or do you have to have a certain kind of mind? Is it? Is it? Is that a talent? People that are good at magic? Is it a talent?

Victoria Mavis [4:49]
I think it’s just a different view of the world. And everyone could become a magician. It’s just the questions. How bad do you want it? And do can you be consistent. And I think this is one of this success secrets in general. Because when you say yes to something, you have to be consistent and committed to it. And it’s the same with magic. And everyone knows that magicians have to practice a lot. And that is true. So this is one part of the equation, like in every other field. So you can become an expert, you have all the knowledge to implement things, this is one thing. But then I think the even bigger part when it comes to a good magician like Paul Daniels, for example, or Derren Brown now, what you have in the UK Yeah, that’s right. And it’s really like, yeah, being this interesting personality, you know, like you David because you are an amazing podcast host, and you have this really strong personality. And you’re interesting. And this is where the real magic comes in. And when you look like on David Copperfield, he has charisma, this magic flair around him. And it’s the personality because when you pick up a trick, or some playing cards, everyone can go to a magic shop and buy a trick. But this is just that material laying in front of you and you the interesting personality behind it really brings the deck of playing cards are the magic trick to life.

David Ralph [6:21]
Now, it’s interesting you say that because David Copperfield For example, I don’t trust, I feel that there’s TV angles or something. I don’t feel like it’s proper magic. Even though when you watch it, you go, Oh, that’s amazing. He’s made the Eiffel Tower disappear or something? I don’t find that as inspiring as somebody doing real close up card magic. Did you feel when you watch it? Are you amazed by the tricks that people perform? Or do you just look at it and go, I know how you did that. I know how you did that.

Victoria Mavis [6:54]
Yeah, interesting. A Look, what’s your take took their on David Copperfield. And a lot of people feel like you that it’s all tricks with cameras. And this is always a problem when it comes to performing on TV. So you have the one side that people think out that this is all trick back camera. So this is easy, everyone could do it. And then you have the other problem as magician when you perform live on camera, and you don’t get a chance to speak with the director up front. And you don’t know what what of camera is shooting you at when time, then the problem is that the camera sees everything. It’s not like the human eyes. So the human eye can be tricked because it’s kind of lazy and doesn’t see everything. But the camera obviously sees everything. So this is really a problem when you perform a TV. And this is why this is a completely different field than performing live. And as you mentioned david close up magic. It’s really something people really appreciate because it happens directly in front of them. And they have no explanation. So this is then real astonishment happening.

David Ralph [8:07]
Yeah, it certainly does blows my mind over time. So So let’s take you back to the young Victoria, because you are the Father. Well, I’m going to ask a question, first of all, because he just popped into my head. In the introduction, we called you a recognized professional wizard. Now, I didn’t actually realize that wizards exist I bought that was also a Harry Potter star. Are you actually a wizard? Or are you a magician? What’s the definition between a magician and a wizard?

Victoria Mavis [8:36]
Yes, I’ve been on another podcast the other day, and I was called the same and asked the same. So it’s, it’s really tough to say so. Yeah, maybe I would say I’m little bit in between because magic we all know is entertainment. So we have some tricks, pack psychology kind of manipulation, what you see and what you don’t see and all that and it’s classical entertainment. And then when it comes to mentalism, it’s always like crossing this border, because sometimes people have the feeling that maybe that was real, and it’s hard to tell, because it seems so real. And there seems to be no explanation, like just a box or a mural, or whatever, because a lot of these things are happening in our minds. And yeah, wizards, you’re right. It’s more like Harry Potter like fantasy, also, like people dealing with a kind of real magic. So it’s hard to say where exactly the line is. And because I studied magic, since I’m four years old, I looked into every field. And of course, I asked myself, What would I do? What What would it be like to have real magical power? So what would you do? So when I prepare a show, I make it look like I have these powers just to create this beautiful illusions for people. So I’m not really a wizard. It’s just that I also like to help people become a mind magician themselves. So Creating Magic in their own lives.

David Ralph [10:17]
Now, this is interesting, because when you say you want to create real powers, if I’m watching you, and I don’t know how it’s done. And that’s real to me, isn’t it? That is a real power, whether there’s a kind of system behind it that you’ve learned and you’ve you’ve manipulated, that is still a real power that you’ve got, surely.

Victoria Mavis [10:38]
Yeah, I think so. And it’s really interesting, because it was just last week that someone called me really powerful because I have so much knowledge, what I gathered through performing years and years of magic and mentalism and connecting with a lot of really great magicians all around the world. And I teach magic one hour a week at a school now. So this is just a nice project and doing for a couple of weeks. And they’re also you see that it’s it’s different. And people need to think different becoming a magician to like create the extra ordinary or create the impossible because it doesn’t work with a normal mindset. And it’s really that yet a lot to learn. And I told my students there that the magician normally is the most most powerful person in the room. And the reason for that is that the magician always knows more than the audience because the magician is the person who has to be one step ahead. And this is what I teach my clients when I work with them on mindset and what they can learn from the field of magic and show business.

David Ralph [11:52]
I’m a bit obsessed with mindset over the last few months really, I’ve started looking at heightening my awareness, bringing my my two parts of my brain together by meditation and stuff I about a year ago, I would have said, That’s madness. That’s whoo, whoo. But the more I got into it, I thought to myself this This is amazing. And I know that we’ve got a like a mutual connection with a guy called lungi Holland, who’s, who’s big on what goes between our ears? Are you amazed by how many people have that viewpoint that I did just you know, a year ago, but actually, the brain doesn’t, you know, it can’t be programmed, it can’t be changed, it is what it is.

Victoria Mavis [12:36]
Yeah, that’s, that’s interesting. And I think this is a point where you could fight over four hours, because some people are really critical. And thing, this is all not true. And you can’t change anything there. And they prevent themselves from big changes, and big leaps, and everything that has to do with it. And you can see David that science is approaching it more and more and really making clear on how our brain actually shapes our reality and how we can change our perspective. And it’s just this small amount that we notice from everything that is going around us. And I think that there are still big things to come in signs. And more and more people are getting access to the knowledge in mindset. And when you look at it, like peak performers, so professional athletes, or really successful people, the thing is, they only use their mind in another way. And they are able to have this mindset and tap in this mindset on the spot and whenever they want. So they have special techniques, how you can accomplish that with an anchor or something else. So they can deliver peak performance on the spot. And we all are here with more or less the same hardware in our brain. But the programs we have installed our so different and it depends on the programs, how much magic you create in your life,

David Ralph [14:07]
is I’ve been watching as I say documentaries, I’ve been watching YouTube videos, TED talks about reality, and what is reality and consciousness and stuff. And I start watching it and I got this is interesting. Yeah, this is really, really good. And then I go now this is fascinating. And then I go now you’ve lost me, you’ve lost me, I don’t actually understand what you’re saying now. Are you the same? Are you can you go all the way down the journey and go? Yeah, I’m 100% on this, or do you go now actually, this is going beyond me. And I just can’t grasp what you’re talking about?

Victoria Mavis [14:41]
Yeah, I would say it’s really a journey down the rabbit hole when you take it seriously on exploring the mindset and everything around it. And we all know that everything in our world, everything that happens in our lives, starts with a single thought. So this is where everything comes from, like from the invisible world. And as magicians, you are trained to work with the invisible because everything you are creating for a show for performance is invisible, so only you can see it in your mind. And then the thing is, you have to bring it into the visible my world like film director would do, for example. And I also help people accomplish that. And talking about mindset, it really, when you go really deep, you end up with quantum physics. And this is where it gets really interesting. And also where I always say this has been really, really close to real magic

David Ralph [15:39]
was quantum physics is where my brain starts to split. That’s where and they’re talking about. We’re all energy. And this is the atom and this is fat. And I came to go, because I was watching one the other day, and they were saying yes. Okay. This is like a two dimensional image. And I thought, yeah, okay, I understand that, when we’re looking at a three dimensional image. Now, if we project it to an eight dimensional image, and I’m thinking, hang on, I don’t understand eight dimensions out, how do we get into eight dimensions, I just can’t go there. It’s it is a form of madness. And I think that these people can go that far into this world and still keep their sanity and pull themselves out.

Victoria Mavis [16:22]
Yes, of course. And it’s all a matter of training. And, you know, our brain or mind is like a muscle. So there are a lot of things you learn for the first time and you thought you will never learn that like maybe swimming or driving your car. And then you hit the moment where you were able to do it. And now you can do it without thinking about it. Because it became a habit. So it the knowledge went into your body. So your body is doing that by himself. You don’t have to think about it. And it’s the same with quantum physics and everything. So when you start to experience all the things you avoid, and you will understand more and more, it’s just learning more, because every time you learn something new, you make, obviously new connections in your brain and with learning new things, you’re instantly able to see new opportunities because your world changes by learning new things.

David Ralph [17:18]
So my obsession at the moment is a good thing is it? Should I keep on watching these documentaries, thinking? I don’t understand this will not be a moment when I suddenly go, Oh, I dimensions. That’s easy. Go for 12 or 12 and see if you can text me.

Victoria Mavis [17:34]
Yes, definitely David you should do that. Please do that. Go ahead. And then I would like to invite you back to pure mind magic and discuss everything you figured out in the quantum world.

David Ralph [17:45]
I’m going to be a genius Victoria, I’m going to be a genius. I’m not going to change people’s minds.

Victoria Mavis [17:50]
Yeah, I’m sure you will be so you have all the skills already. It’s just you have to connect the dots. Right?

David Ralph [17:58]
Yeah, to join that post dots. That’s a good one infamous show. I think I think I’m going to bring that together. But let’s play some words. Now let’s thought of something like that. Who would have done as well. Here’s Jim Carrey. And then we’re going to come back with Victoria Mavis,

Jim Carrey [18:10]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.

David Ralph [18:37]
Now, I listened to that in a totally different way because being a stand up comedian is in very ways similar to being a stand up magician. What did your parents do? Were your parents surprised that you wanted to go into this or maybe they were wizards and and warlocks themselves.

b&n Victoria.

Victoria Mavis [19:07]
Yes.

David Ralph [19:09]
Did you hear my question?

Hello, Victoria. You still there?

Victoria Mavis [19:22]
Yes. Yeah, no, I hear you again. So you asked something about my parents. This is what I got between the lines.

David Ralph [19:28]
Why I do the question again. Okay. So listening to that sound clip with Jim Carrey. He was talking about his parents. His father wanted to be a stand up comedian, but didn’t have the belief. How do you get the belief to be a magician? Did it come from your parents? Were they wizards and warlocks themselves?

Victoria Mavis [19:48]
I think it would have been a game changer if they would. But no, none of them. So I really discovered it on my own. So my father left magic and history does to the stay at it’s really helping me with everything supporting me and sometimes even building illusions for me, but he wasn’t. So he was a school director. And my mother also was in business. So I came up with that on my own stairway in my room practicing for hours and hours. And then the trick I learned, and what was the very first trick you learned? The absolute first trick was how to make my thump disappear with for years.

David Ralph [20:32]
Oh, yeah. And how do you make did this is a trick that we all need? can we can we? Can we learn this? Do we have to take 15 years of practice to make our phones disappear? Is it as simple as like sticking it up our nose or something? You know what actually, how do you make your thumb disappear?

Victoria Mavis [20:48]
Yeah, no David it’s actually pretty complicated. Now you have to use your both hands to do it. And that was everything I could accomplish with my small hands at the age of four. And things changed when I got my first magic set with seven. And the first trick I performed there at my first stage show that I had at the age of seven, was actually a piece of mentalism. And it felt really good that after the show, I was approached by adults who had no explanation for how I did that.

David Ralph [21:21]
I used to do tricks with my kids, where I used to take a towel, and balance a spoon behind it, and then just tip the spoon. And then the towel would rise like magic in front of it. And I always remember their shock and their wonderment. And now they’re 14 and 17. They’re not as impressed. when when when do people lose that? That the light in magic, and then move into, I can see how it’s done. Or they want to know, because when you were a kid, you don’t accept you just accept it, don’t you? Oh, it’s magic.

Victoria Mavis [21:54]
Here, so they are really different ages. So first one, kids are too young, they first have to understand that there is a normal world so that they can understand when something happens, that is not normal, you really have to have the spaces to understand magic. Then when it comes to teenagers, this is really a tough audience because they think they know everything. But when you’re able to pull them into the magic, they’re the most stunt people and staying after the show. And then when it comes to adults, there are really two groups. So there is this one group, only trying to figure out how everything is done and just thinking about it and analyzing everything. And these people have less fun, hit Disneyland and think of the roller coaster. When did it get last time checked and everything so you don’t do that you’re just in this amazing world for the day. And my favorite audience is really people who come to the show, ready to be a story nourished and ready to enjoy themselves for an hour in another world. Like when they go into the cinema and just let everything go. Let reality outside the room and enjoy the movie for that time. And this is what when once you can we enjoy what’s happening without having your analytical mind switched on the whole time.

David Ralph [23:24]
Right? So anyhow, I could I could spend an hour with you Victoria every single day. And I’m sure you would amaze me. But lately, so probably back in to the business sense because you are a podcaster. But that’s not just your thing, you are a business lady. How difficult was it to actually take this passion of magic and make it into something viable, because we hear that all the time about follow your passion, and you will never work again. But there is a bridge you’ve got to cross from doing the thing you love to actually getting paid for it. How difficult was that?

Victoria Mavis [23:59]
Yeah. And it was pretty difficult, especially over Gemini. And it’s really easy said to just follow your passion that sounds always skewed. But there are a lot of things to deal with the unknown what brings us back to quantum physics, because I love the saying that you don’t know what you don’t know. So this is at the same time positive and negative because you can’t say what’s in the unknown, obviously, because it is unknown like in magic in a magic show, you never know what happens next, only the magician does. And when you decide that it’s first all about decision, it’s the same with getting rich, a lot of people say they would like to get rich, but they never make the decision that they become rich. So the decision to do is is first and then sometimes you just have to figure it out, because you can’t see the whole way. But it’s enough to see just the the next in a staircase the next step. So that’s it, you go one step at a time, and a lot of things will unfold in front of you. But I think magic is a really good example for that about following your passion. And a lot of people have the mindset that Oh, can you make a living out of it? And I hated that in the beginning. But yeah, the thing is, is it depends on you and how you approach it. And this is why I say magic is a good example. Because you have all this creativity, but it is called show business. So you have the show the creative part, the content on one side, and also the business on the other side. Because there are a lot of magicians out there that are really, really good. But they are no businessman or business women. And this is the big problem. Because when it comes to magic, it is like in every other business in the world, you have to be able to sell

David Ralph [25:59]
what you do. But does it come to a point when selling becomes easy? When it does? It’s a leading question. Once you create your brand, create your celebrity create your authority. A lot of the issues in the early days go out the window, but you only get better by the consistency of constantly doing it when no one’s looking at you when you haven’t got that brand and authority, don’t you?

Victoria Mavis [26:23]
Yes, you’re absolutely right here David and I think a lot of people give up in that face, because it’s tough. And it’s really a challenge for your mind. And when you were used to getting a paycheck and from one day to another you don’t, it really brings you to the edge. And there’s so much pressure. And the question is can you stand it? And do you believe in yourself and in your dream?

David Ralph [26:50]
I went through such bad times growing my business, it was untrue. But I never had the urge to stop. It was almost like there was no other I could do. And there was I could have gone and got a job or whatever. But I just couldn’t go back. Are you like that? If somebody said Victoria, come on working our call center and you can take insurance claims. could could you do that? Or you could do or no, there’s no way?

Victoria Mavis [27:17]
No, there’s no way I would go back. So I’m on this track. And I make the magic bigger every day from now turning a speaker and becoming a podcaster and also author. So I’m discovering new facets of magic every day. And this is my life. So no one could trap me back and really being trapped. For me, this feels like jail because I’ve been there during my getting my two academic degrees like working in an office. And for me, this is just a nightmare. So I would do everything to prevent myself from going there. And this is just not an option. So I’m a magical entrepreneur.

David Ralph [27:57]
And when you was in an office, did you go, look, here’s a printer, and it’s gone. Did you do some of magic in there?

Victoria Mavis [28:05]
Yeah, that would have been funny. And I guess I would have got in big trouble there because it was a big German broadcaster. So I guess I would have been able to read the whole system. So I didn’t do that. But obviously you can imagine everyone who found out that I’m a magician was asking me, can you show us something and still to the day to that day it is and this is what brings us back what I said in the beginning, it’s about the personality. So when you are an interesting and fascinating personality, people are like glued to you, they are attracted to you and they want to learn more. And this is what I think everyone can learn from magicians for example, like really being this kind of attractive, and I mean attractive in what you are doing. And this is why I created the podcast, pure mind magic to help people get to we’re fascinating personalities.

David Ralph [29:02]
Yeah, is that a key word I was waiting for fascinating. And if you can fascinate people, which magic you know, I would be your world’s worst boyfriend because every minute I’d be asking for a trick. I’ll be going go and do another one to do another one. You know, teach me teach me about that thing about making your fam disappear. Go on, go on go on you. You promise me that last week? Victoria. We we wouldn’t be good, we wouldn’t be compatible. But um, let’s have a moment. And we will move on because I found out this morning, but you are an author. And you’ve got a book out how podcasting can change your life? Has it changed your life?

Victoria Mavis [29:41]
Yes, 100%, I would say So what happened? Still, I created the pure mind magic podcast is really magical, because not only my own life was changed in a big, big way. So that for example, I met a producer from LA who’s interested in a creating together with me my own magic TV show worldwide, a ton of other things. So I was approached by a publisher who wanted me to write another book. And it’s really kind of crazy, and people reaching out to be on my show. It’s really high profile guests, and they coming by themselves, so I don’t do anything. And I get pitched every day from around 20 to 30 people who want to be on my show. So this is really amazing. And I felt the call that more people need to hear about this, what I call magic door to get in the field of podcasting and what kind of magic you can create for yourself. And for others having your own podcast like you do David and this is the premise of the book. So it’s really motivational to show you everything that is behind this magic door of podcasting. And you can get the book from Amazon and just enjoy reading. So it’s an entertaining read, but also a ton of value information when it comes to podcasting.

David Ralph [31:08]
And I totally agree podcasting can change your life. You know, I was in an office, I now do this. And you know, I would say probably three times a week, I’m watching TV and I will say to my kids, Oh, I know him. Oh, I know her. And it sort of still blows my mind. It blows my mind that just by pairing up your microphone, you can join up the dots and build these connections with people across the world. It’s um, it’s it’s the greatest way to to create that fascination. We’re talking about that brand of poverty to get your personality out there, isn’t it?

Victoria Mavis [31:43]
Yes, you are. Absolutely right. So I can’t disagree. Unfortunately David with you, because you’re definitely on the same track here. And I think it’s really like magic, you have to experience podcasting, because it’s hard to put in words, what can happen when you start then, in the beginning of my book, I tell my own story that first i thought Who in the world would need a podcast? And who would be so crazy to do all this work completely for free. This is this makes no sense.

I discovered everything. Yeah,

David Ralph [32:16]
yeah, I didn’t think that at all. I when I started, I just bought, this looks fun. And I didn’t consider it to be a business. I didn’t consider it to be anything. I just thought I could do this. And this would be quite fun. And I launched into it where my problem was, was actually, I’d created the podcast before the business. And it took me a while to actually find out what my customers my clients wanted to actually turn it into income. I was just kind of podcasting for the sake of it hours and hours and hours. Now you look back and Victoria and you could go well that that was my my magic. That was me being invisible. That was me being in my bedroom preparing to sort of move out to the next stage of your life where people do start looking in your direction.

Victoria Mavis [33:01]
Yes, I love that. So you said that really nicely.

David Ralph [33:06]
When I’m a professional podcaster Victoria, that’s what I do.

Victoria Mavis [33:09]
Yeah, I know. I know. You really are. And I have to say you are one of the best podcast hosts I talked to so far.

David Ralph [33:18]
Oh, thank you, Victoria. It would have been nicer if you’d said the best. But I can I can work towards that I can work towards that. So the next time you come on, I can allow you with my professionalism. Can I can I do that? Can I invite you on again down the line?

Victoria Mavis [33:32]
Yes, please do that. So you have to hope works already David so you have learned more about quantum physics to come back to pure mind magic, and also yet to become an even better host so that I can come back and say you are the best.

David Ralph [33:47]
There you go. I’m going to practice I’m going to practice. So when you when you look at what you’ve done over the sort of last few years, because you really are sort of raising your game mix the daily moving to where you want to go. Is there a clear path now? Because it seems to me that with most people, they start the business based on the passion, and then they struggle, struggle, struggle, and then they start to get clarity, and they realize actually what they need to deliver to the world. And it becomes simple after that. But you’ve got to go through the weeds and the struggle to actually get that clarity. Are you in that clarity stage?

Victoria Mavis [34:26]
Yeah, I reached it now. But I also had all this struggle, I think it’s normal, and you have to go through it, it just makes you stronger. And I always was looking for a way to spread the magic like all over the world, and also creating more value for people than just sitting there and enjoying a magic show seeing beautiful illusion. So this is nice, but there is no long term thing and nothing they can take home with them from this evening besides like nice memories, probably. So we the podcast and with the books and with my speaking gigs. Now, I really found a way to combine magic and all my knowledge from magic with mindset and to bring it to the world. And as I said, really teaching people on how to become a mind magicians themselves, what just means that they learn how to work with their mind in a different way to approach different things in life. So that’s it. And it’s really like my mission. And it feels now that more and more everything gets aligned. And as you said, We are like in this flow creating things and things become easier. And then there, I think it’s really like you hit this point when you’re doing all those things. And then when you rest and watch what you’ve done and how everything unfolds and comes together. It’s really like you are seeing but only seeing it backwards how you did connect all the dots.

David Ralph [36:02]
I was saying to a friend this morning that I used to work with. And he said to me, how’s it going? I said it’s going fantastic. I said it, I couldn’t ask for more. I work very little I enjoy everything could do. And he said you know, what’s been the change. And I said, I now know what I’m doing. I said at the beginning and through the process, I was doing a bit of this and a bit of fat, and trying base and trying back. And funny enough now I’ve got so much but I can bring back to my business as I move forward that’s already built. But I’ve kind of built it too early, the audience wasn’t ready for it. Or they weren’t asking for it or whatever. I was just sort of trying stuff willy nilly. Have you got a lot of that Victoria in your business where you look at it? And you go, Oh, yeah, that’s three quarters. Damn, I could use that later. And oh, yeah, that’s gonna be useful.

Victoria Mavis [36:51]
Yeah, really, it takes time. And then you see what if your work makes sense, where and the thing what you mentioned, the that you now know where your core is and what you’re doing. I think this is really a magical state when you approach it. And the thing is, you can’t buy that for money. Because you can get, of course, all the coaches and mentors helping you with everything. And I would still advise to get really mentors and coaches, when you would like to go into podcasting or whatever, just approaching a new area in life. It’s really helpful. It takes you there faster when you have a coach when you have someone who is where you want to go. But there are still things you have to find out by your self, and really getting this alignment and seeing how everything comes together. So I had to go through this, too. And I think now it’s it’s really a good state where I am. But yeah, it’s a lot of work. And only you can do it because it’s your unique way. And you have to find out yourself.

David Ralph [37:58]
I agree. I agree totally. And that’s that’s one of the things that I think that a lot of business coaches do very well. They don’t give all the answers. They give the steps forward. But then it’s up to that person to do the investigation. And if you haven’t got the obsession, you know, I’m absolutely after five years of podcasting, I’m obsessed with podcasting, but only in the actual doing it. I’m not interested in, you know, microphones I’m not interested in I just like doing the podcasting. And I get asked to go on a lot of conferences, when I say, Oh, yeah, we’re going to be talking about podcasting moving forward, and how the industry and I can’t be bothered, I’ll be bothered, I’m not interested in that. So all I want to do is the podcasting. And that is as I say that when you know what you want to do when you realize that everything else is just an inconvenience, really, it’s a distraction, and you can say no to everything, because that allows all the yeses that you really want complete you. Do you agree Victoria?

Victoria Mavis [39:02]
Oh, yeah, that is so perfect. What you’re saying there. And it’s exactly that. Because when you know who you are and what you’re doing, it’s so easy to say yes and no to every opportunity that shows up. And I know David you are really a creator. So this is what you are best in. And I think you should do that. And so I understand you that you are not interested in talking about the technical side. So there are other people who love the technical stuff. And I think that’s fine, too. So when I get got first approach to be a speaker at podcast movement this year than the CEO, they’re set out, can you do a speech on how the technicals things are working in Europe? And I said, No, because I don’t have a passion for that. So I can tell you on how to find great guests for your show how to make them say yes, or how to pitch your self to potential podcast host. And then we agreed on that. Because Yeah, that was my thing, where what I can do and what I learned from magic, how do you perform best? And how do you connect with people and get them interested in you or get them interested in your show? All that and so I would totally agree with you that this is really like a magical power when you discovered your thing.

David Ralph [40:27]
And it’s all in your mind, isn’t it the the obstacles are in your mind be the way forward is in your mind? You know, that’s why I’ve really grasped it. Finally, after 49 years of thinking, actually, the solutions all in my own head. And I can either make it easy for myself or hard. And so that’s why I’m going to become an expert on quantum physics, and just just blow you away, Victoria, I’m going to blow you away. And it’s it’s weird, though, isn’t it? quantum physics is so weird. It’s untrue. It’s just, it’s beyond reality. He’s just as I said earlier is madness.

Victoria Mavis [41:03]
Yes, it is. It is pure madness. But this is what is so great about it. Because when you understand it, or I can’t say understand it, because you have to saying when you say that you understood quantum physics, you haven’t understood it at all. So let’s say when you get a feeling for it, you see how you can collapse time and space. So meaning Normally, we all know that when we want to reach a goal, let’s say buy a new car. So we have to move our body through time and space to get there. And for some things to accomplish, it takes a ton of energy. And when we are there, we have no more energy to enjoy what we created or what we worked for. And the concept of quantum physics really magical turns everything around. Meaning you change the electric field around yourself by changing your thoughts, changing your perception, and you make the event come to you in no time. So this is really magical, but it’s highly complicated. But I just love playing around with it. And I’m trying it on a on a small basis every night before I go to bed. So because here’s the thing, also like magic, creating something out of nothing. So you can pick an object and think of this object and then like creating it out of nothing. So you have to visualize it and see it and everything. And then normally the next day, I get hit by this object or see it in the most strange way. And it’s just amazing. Because when you go there with this playing thing in mind, it’s not that oh, I have to do that it has to work. And this is why so many people get stuck when they try to manifest all this big things. Because then all the self doubt kicks in and you lose the connection.

David Ralph [43:02]
I don’t know whether I’m gonna go for understanding quantum physics or trying to understand the ladies in my life or what was going to be easier for the quantum physics or all the females Victoria.

Victoria Mavis [43:16]
I would go for quantum physics.

David Ralph [43:17]
I’m going to go for that it sounds easier to me. Absolutely. Well, this is the bit of the show that we’ve been leading up to where we’re going to send the Victoria on a journey back to speak to her younger self. It’s the Sermon on the Mount, when we send it back to speak to the younger Victorian if she could go into a room and find her, would she choose what age and what advice would you give her? Well, I’m going to play the theme. And when it fades, she’s up this is the Sermon on the mic.

Victoria Mavis [44:07]
Well, Victoria, I have to say, trust yourself, believe in yourself. And don’t let yourself be stressed by other people. And don’t waste too much anything and too much pressure in trying to accomplish certain things at a certain time. Because there is this perfect timing for everything. So when the time is right, this person or event will approach you in a magical way. Just trust and make things come to you instead of chasing them with all this energy. It’s best when you concentrate all your energy into the creative process. This is my advice.

David Ralph [44:51]
Great advice. And I hope the little Victoria listens. So Victoria for all the people that have been listening today and want to find your book, which is I say how podcasting can change your life, or your podcast, or your profile, where’s the best place to get it all.

Victoria Mavis [45:09]
You can find the book, as I said on Amazon, so pretty easy. It’s worldwide there. And you can also connect with me on LinkedIn, when you type Victoria Mavis, you end up with my profile. And this is the best way to reach me. And also the podcast where I had the honor to have David on the show is called pure mind magic that is on Apple podcast. It’s on Stitcher, pod bean, Spotify, wherever you are listening to this great show here, you can also find my podcast.

David Ralph [45:42]
And where’s your TV program going to be? Is it on Netflix or somewhere that we can all get it?

Victoria Mavis [45:48]
It’s not sure yet. So we have the next meeting in January next year. And then of course, I will put it online and we’ll announce it in the podcaster for everyone was interested and subscribe to the show will know.

David Ralph [46:03]
Yeah, just just lay in bed tonight thinking and make it appear make it appear on Netflix so that I can watch it. That’s what we want. Well, thank you so much Victoria for spending time with us today joining up those dots. And please come back again when you got more dots to join up. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past is the best way to build our futures Victoria maybe Thank you so much.

Victoria Mavis [46:26]
Thank you so much David for David for having me as a guest I had an amazing time on your show and really looking forward to come back.

David Ralph [46:37]
Soon magic mindset, all in that episode. And believe me, mindset is the big mindset, the more you know about the brain and the way it operates and the way that you can visualize things into your life. And we’re not talking, you know, the law of attraction stuff. You know, we’re not talking about that. We’re talking about science. And I had really become interested in this because I know but the more energy I can put into my brain, things occur and it is occurring. The shows going up and up and up, making more and more income, more and more clients are coming through. It’s just it’s just a delight. And that is all through the mindset of making it happen. And you guys can do exactly the same. If you believe it. You can achieve it as they say and whatever you want to do in your life, you start working towards it, and it comes true. Until next time, thank you so much for being here. And thank you for everybody who’s been leaving ratings and reviews on iTunes. Next person that comes through I’ll drop you a name check on the show and you can be famous. But until next time, we say again, just

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