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Introducing Jeet Banerjee
Today’s guest, joining us on the Join Up Dots free podcast interview is Jeet Banerjee.
He is a man who seems a person born to be an entrepreneur.
Although like many of us he forgot this was the case, and meandered without direction for quite awhile.
As a young boy of nine, he became fascinated by the worldwide web and the possibilities that it offered.
He was stimulated by the constantly changing online landscape, and so went into business creating his first website “Powerdunk”
He had taken entrepreneurial action and dived headfirst into the online world.
However he didn’t then become a CEO of his own company, hiring and firing adults, web-developers and other employees with abandon.
How The Dots Joined Up For Jeet
Instead Jeet Banerjee quickly forgot his blossoming business, and became what we would say “A normal kid”.
Fun and mischief was the order of the day, and would have continued if his parents hadn’t insisted that he entered the family business.
So to earn a dollar or two his did this, and the parental push turned out to be the making of him.
He learnt so many things, such as sales, invoicing, marketing to name just a few.
Whilst working for his parents, it was a masterclass in entrepreneurial ventures.
But the most important lesson, was not something taught, but something that he discovered deep within himself.
He hated being an employee and working for someone else.
And that realisation took him back to his nine year old self, and the entrepreneur that he was born to be resurfaced and he has never looked back.
And now after creating and selling businesses, and coaching others as to the steps it takes to win online, he has found his true path in life.
So does he look back to Powerdunk and think “Man I could have created something astonishing!”
Did he struggle with telling his parents that he didn’t want to work with them anymore?
Well lets find out as I bring onto the show, to start joining up dots, the one and only Jeet Banerjee.
During the show we discussed with Jeet Banerjee such weighty topics as:
How he took 10 – 20 jobs within a two year period and knew that he was not happy and had to do something to bring happiness into his life.
How he started with creating a list of what he liked and knew that he could do wen he started his entrepreneurial life…..seems a simple but effective way of doing it!
Why he believes that finding your own voice in the work you produce is really so much easier than trying to pretend you are someone else!
How he wrote to Neil Patel as a 17 year old, even though he never once thought that he would receive a response!
How you should always put in effort no matter what you do, even though you might hate doing it……..there are experiences to be gained in everything!
How To Connect With Jeet Banerjee
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Audio Transcription Of Jeet Banerjee Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. Join Up Dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:26]
Yes, hello there. Good morning world. How are we all? Everybody? Okay, I hope you are. I’m really excited today. Because I when I when I started the show hundred and 50 episodes ago, you just started, you just started and you don’t really know where it’s going to go. You just kind of throw it out and hopefully get a few Connexions and get a bit of momentum. We’ve now got the appetisers coming on board, we’ve got a few that we’re in conversation with at the moment, who want to put their products at the beginning of the show and at the end of the show. So hopefully, when we choose the right ones for you, it’s going to be the right products which will benefit you in your leap of faith and your entrepreneurial journeys, whatever you want to do. Now, let me bring you on to today’s guest because that’s what we’re here for. He is a man who It seems he is a person born to be an entrepreneur. Although like many of us, he forgot this was the case and he meandered without direction for quite a while. As a young boy of nine he became fascinated by the World Wide Web and the possibilities that he offered. He was stimulated by the constantly changing online landscape, and so went into business creating his first website power dunk. Sounds like a good one. He taken entrepreneurial action and dive headfirst into the online world. Now However, he didn’t then become a CEO of his own company hiring and firing adults, web developers and other employees with abandon. Instead, he quickly forgot his blossoming business and become what we would say. A normal kid. Yes, finding mischief was the order of the day, and would have continued if his parents hadn’t insisted that he dented the family business to earn $1 or two. And his parents push turned out to be the making of him. He learned so many things such as sounds, invoicing, marketing, to name just a few was working for his parents, but it was actually a master class in entrepreneurial ventures. But the most important lesson was not something taught, but something that he discovered deep within himself. He hated being an employee and working for someone else. And that realisation took him back to his nine year old self and the entrepreneur, but he was born to be resurfaced. And he’s never looked back. And now after creating and selling businesses and coaching others as to the steps it takes to win online, he’s found his true path in life. So does he look back to power Duncan think, man, I could have created something astonishing. It could have been Facebook one, or did he struggle with telling his parents that he didn’t want to work with them anymore? Well, let’s find out as we bring on to the show to start Join Up Dots, the one and only Jeet Banerjee. How are you?
Jeet Banerjee [2:53]
I’m doing great. Thanks so much for having me. Power done. I’m
David Ralph [2:57]
normally I do a little preamble. First of all, I have been looking at the name of power dunk all day. And I couldn’t find anything about what it is. So let’s let’s cut to the chase young man. What is power, Donald? And could it have been Facebook one?
Jeet Banerjee [3:14]
Yeah, absolutely. So when I was about eight or nine years old, I had this big obsession with basketball. So I literally spent all my time either playing basketball, or once I was tired, coming home and just searching the internet, looking for pictures, videos, and just about anything that I could find. So after doing this for my whole summer vacation, I finally got to the point where I couldn’t find any more original content. And I was kind of bored of everything that was on the internet. So I had this great idea about because I was a big fan of basketball dunks at that time, like the most powerful job breaking dunks. So I wanted to create a site where I could just share the most epic dunks in basketball and share them with the internet. And that’s really what the whole fundamental idea of the site was when I was nine years old.
David Ralph [3:58]
I could have worked out how myself really I’ve been looking at it all day and he was power down and as soon as you said it, I thought yeah, of course he was. So who was a great power Dunker in your days.
Jeet Banerjee [4:11]
Um, so the biggest one was Shaquille O’Neal. I remember the one where he dunks and he breaks the whole backboard and everything comes crashing down. So he’s got to be number one on the list.
David Ralph [4:21]
And did Michael Jordan was he a power dunk? I know nothing about basketball. I’m just throwing out names.
Jeet Banerjee [4:27]
Um, he was a definitely a good Dunker, but he was a little bit before my generation. So I didn’t get to see as much footage or as much film him as I wish I could have.
David Ralph [4:38]
You didn’t even see that classic Space Jam when he was with Bugs Bunny.
Jeet Banerjee [4:44]
Oh, no, I definitely saw that one. Yeah,
David Ralph [4:45]
that is probably his highlight, isn’t it? Michael Jordan is laying on his deathbed. Hopefully he’s not because he’s a young man. Really? But I think Don’t you think he’ll look back to eat days with Bugs Bunny? And going back? Was it? That was the moment I proved myself?
Jeet Banerjee [5:00]
Absolutely. I mean, that movie was awesome. So I hope he does look back on it.
David Ralph [5:04]
Yeah, don’t be ashamed of it. Michael, we all remember it with fondness. And did you remember your sort of your nine year old power dunking obsession with fondness? Do you? Do you look back on it and kind of go? Wow, if I had carried on because you’re still young? How old? Are you? 22 or something?
Jeet Banerjee [5:21]
21 right now? Yeah. 2121 22.
David Ralph [5:22]
So do you look back at like the last 10 years and go God if I had carried on? Or do you kind of go back? Actually, I’m still quite young. I’m still, you know, at the beginning of my mind learning curve in in many senses. So I’m okay. Well, I am.
Jeet Banerjee [5:40]
No, absolutely. So I mean, when I look back nowadays, I really wish that I had started and had the ambition that I have today when I was nine years old. Because I just tried to think of all that I could have achieved if I had an extra 12 years or 10 years under my belt. So now that’s always a thought in my mind, even though I’m young. And oftentimes people will tell me like, Oh, I’m so jealous how young you started, I still have that thought in the back of my mind. Like, dang, I Why didn’t I start earlier? What was I thinking?
David Ralph [6:05]
Yeah, do you do get yourself sort of surrounded by these people? Because I speak to people and they say, Oh, I started my first business at the age of four. Like, really, it would never crossed my mind. You know, I was 44 before I did anything like this. And so you know, I had 22 years on yourself for 23 years. And so when you see like these youngsters, and by entrepreneur or from the word go, is it something that’s just in them? Is it something that’s tangible? Or is it something that’s, you know, the surrounding area that they live, they’ve got moms and dads, I mean that environment, so they kind of encouraged them? What what’s your spin on it?
Jeet Banerjee [6:44]
Um, so my spin personally, is I think that your circumstances and your kind of environment and surroundings really determine kind of what path you take, like, personally, for me, let’s say like, my parents didn’t want to teach me the value of $1 when I was 1516. And they kind of just kept paying for all this stuff I wanted and kind of kept me in the spoiled way that I wanted them to, I probably wouldn’t have been an entrepreneur today, because I wouldn’t have had that need essentially, to become an entrepreneur. But it was only when I took these jobs and I really saw frustrating it was getting a job and kind of doing that, that hourly thing that I realised that I can do better i can i can excel with the hours that I’m already putting in and stuff. So I think you really need to put someone in a situation or surround them with people that are constantly feeding them with certain ideas for them to really take it on and an ordinary path or something unique.
David Ralph [7:35]
So So is it kind of burn or learn and what I mean by that phrase, if you’re in a situation that you don’t like, you’ve got one chance you you’ve got to learn to get out of it. And nowadays, the risky choice for many people is actually trying to find a job. Because you could spend months and months and months trying to find a job get into the job. I don’t like it or be by you don’t like you and then you’re out of it. Is Is it the chance now that you’ve got to say to you youngsters, you really got to learn to earn your own buck?
Jeet Banerjee [8:05]
Um, yeah, yes. And no, like, my biggest thing to other people has been just do what makes you really happy. So when I got jobs after taking like 10 to 12 different jobs in the span of two years, I knew that it didn’t make me happy because every job felt like a chore. And I was extremely frustrated. And then I have other friends that have just graduated college or something. And they’re working as like a financial analyst or something, and they absolutely love their job. So to me, I think it’s really about finding like what you’re really passionate about, and what wakes you what gets you up in the morning real quick. And whether that’s earning on your own, or whether that’s basically creating your own business. I mean, sorry, getting a job that fulfils your path and stuff like that. It’s just really choosing what you need to do. That’s a key point. And that’s one
David Ralph [8:49]
of the key points that we make on this show. But this show isn’t about an entrepreneurial leap of faith, because some people they never going to do that. They’re not entrepreneurial in any shape, or form. And by born to be employees, but you don’t have to be an unhappy employee, do you? You can, you know, if you’re in a job that you think is a bit crappy, and you don’t want to people working around, you get another job, there’s so many opportunities to be happy. And it might be a leap of faith into a different direction, but you’re still an employee. But that’s the kind of things that people should think about, is it they’ve only got one life. So they got to make the most of it. And don’t be miserable any day.
Jeet Banerjee [9:26]
Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. I think it just just pans down to happiness. Because I think when we’re young, a lot of people are just focused on, I want to have a lot of money, I want to buy this, I want to buy that. But as you kind of get older and you figure out life, you kind of realise that it’s not about money, really, money doesn’t necessarily buy happiness. It’s more about doing things that excite you, finding your passion, stuff like that. So whether it’s a job or your own company, just find something that makes you really happy and just focus your attention on that.
David Ralph [9:53]
Well, I’ve got so many questions g8 You’re giving me a powerhouse episode, a power dunk episode, this one? How is it that you’re 22? And I’m going to say this from the heart, it might sound like an insult, but it’s not. How is it that somebody so young is so rounded in being able to teach other people about finding passion, finding fun in their life, finding the thing that lights them up inside, because certainly, I always had that in me, I could always switch it on and inspire people to do stuff. But it wasn’t something that I ever thought, for example, I could make money out of it was just something I did. But you’re quite early in your game. And you’re you’ve got the ability to actually have been quite happy conversations with people to change their lives. How was that come about?
Jeet Banerjee [10:45]
Um, to be honest, it was something that really found me. So it wasn’t something like I was going out there looking to kind of inspire people or help people, I was just kind of doing my own thing on my own journey. And I opened up a blog on my own. And I suddenly started getting emails from all the young entrepreneurs and even old people that were really interested in diving into their own business or finding happiness in life. And they just started emailing me questions and different things that they wanted my insight on. And I would just kind of go back to them and answer it to the best of my ability. And after about a few months, I figured out that this was something that I was really good at, because people were saying, Oh my God, this helped me so much, or you helped me realise this or that. And then from there, like more opportunities started coming about, like, speaking events, consulting opportunities, I got a TEDx opportunity, just all from like these organic people that were just hearing about my storey or getting a good testimonial and coming to find me. So I, I don’t know what to put the spot on. I think the biggest thing was that since I kind of went through the journey myself, I experienced that firsthand, I guess I knew the feeling. And that was really able to relate with other people. And I think being able to relate with others is a very, very key fact. So it’s not like I was preaching at them. But I was kind of like more like, I’m on the same journey as you, here’s how I’m doing. Here’s what I think. And here’s, I’m telling you, so it was kind of something like along the lines of that.
David Ralph [12:03]
Do you know who you remind me off? And I bet you’ve heard this, but the name of Pat Flynn comes up time and time and time and time again on these conversations. And when Pat Flynn, and I’m sure you know who he is, when he started, he was very much like yourself, he was receiving emails from people. And he was just answering them with the most honest response he could. And he wasn’t somebody saying I know all the answers, but this is where I am at the moment. And this is what I think. And it was that honesty, and that providing value that really set him apart. And you sound very similar to that. But you were openly answering these people to the best of your ability, as you say, and they resonated from that. Now, is that because so many people are aware we have the online game, but they’re going to get burn, or they’re gonna get caught by a shark. But when somebody almost puts their hand up and goes, Look, I know this, it may not be the form. So but it is as good as I know, at the moment. That’s actually more powerful then the opposite way of going. I know everything.
Jeet Banerjee [13:09]
Um, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think the biggest thing I realised from all the emails and stuff that I was getting from people was that I realised that most people like knew exactly what they wanted to do. But it was kind of like they needed reassurance from someone successful or someone on the journey that they could do it. So more and more often than not, it wasn’t like questions of like, how to get started or how to do this, or how to do that. It was more like people sharing their dream with me and telling me like, what do you think about this, and just kind of looking for almost that confirmation that they can do this, and that someone else believes in them. And just having that belief in other people, I think helps a lot. And I think that’s the biggest thing that people were seeking, for me personally online, when I was getting these emails
David Ralph [13:49]
is reassurance isn’t it? I get so many emails from people saying, I’m thinking of doing this, what do you think, and I kind of go back to him. And I say, what it sounds good, I don’t know anything about it. But if you’ve is, you know, a great thing to do. And it’s something that’s going to fill you up with passion, blah, blah, blah, blah, Ben go about it. And I’m never one I’ll be interested in your point of view on this. Because there’s so many listeners out there that are on the bus, they’re on the train, they’re queuing up somewhere, and they’re listening to these conversations. And they’re in a job that they don’t like, or they’re in a relationship they don’t like and they want to do something different. But there’s that kind of balancing point. There’s the ones that just go a leap of faith, just jump and you make it up as you go down. And if you burn all the bridges, then you’ll be all right. Or there’s the other side of the fence and I kind of lean on that kind of go. No, don’t make it a leap of faith, make it slide of faith kind of you know, prepare for it. Do as much as you can while you’re in employment, because when the time comes is not going to be so scary. And at least you can cover your income. What kind of advice do you give? Where do you sit on that? Are you on my side to kind of risk averse? Oh, are you on the one? jump off the cliff and make make the parachute as you fall?
Jeet Banerjee [15:00]
Oh, no, absolutely. So I’m actually on your side on this one. So I have it’s funny because I was talking to someone about this the other day, and I’m all about taking calculated risks. So if you have a big dream or something you want to do, and you’ve never done it before, I think it’s really irrational to just say I’m going to drop everything I had right now and go hundred percent into this. Instead I said it’s almost like the sliding scale like okay, divert 10% of your attention to that and keep 90% of your attention where it’s been. And then as you see progress, and you see yourself liking it more, kind of just move that move the two sides and balance it out until until your dream overpowers, overpowers your daily job, or whatever it is. So that’s something that I agree with you completely on
David Ralph [15:40]
it. When was your dream did? How can I rephrase that? Because you you were kind of doing your thing, without knowing it when you you was in your job with your mom and dad, and they were teaching you things. But inside you had that well building up but suddenly sprung out and you thought I can’t do this anymore. I need to do my own thing. So it wasn’t the kind of your life was terrible. I need to make the leap. It was more of that. You just need to make the leap. So do you remember when you was you know, at a filing cabinet or you at the photocopier and you suddenly thought I can’t bear this anymore? I’ve got to do my own thing. But how do I tell mom and dad but I don’t want to work with them anymore?
Jeet Banerjee [16:20]
Yeah, absolutely. So I remember the moment perfectly so I was kind of at my dad’s office or whatever. And I had to do invoices. At the end of each month, we had about 100 or so clients. So I’d have to go on QuickBooks, type in the amounts, print out all these invoices, date them, and then put them in an envelope, stamp them and send them out for mail. So I got a school late one day, maybe four 430. And I was there is like the 31st of the month and I did all these invoices. And then when I’m about to seal up the last one I noticed the date on it was like 531 instead of six one. And my dad was extremely picky about these kinds of things. So I showed it to him. And I was like I’ve already sealed them. I’ve already wasted all the stamps, everything can I just leave and mail it out. And it was almost 830 at this time. And he said nope, you got to go back, you made a mistake, you got to fix everything from scratch. So I had to reprint re stamp redo everything from scratch. And that was probably the most frustrating experience of like my life having to do that and be at the office till like 10 1030 even when my father was gone. And that was like my breaking point where I was like, Okay, I can’t do this anymore. Like, I need to do something on my own. And that’s when I kind of shifted away. And how did you phrase it to him? You went home that night? And you said, Dad, I got something to tell you.
David Ralph [17:34]
Here’s my notice you got me for the next four weeks? Or did you just go back say I’m not doing this anymore?
Jeet Banerjee [17:40]
Um, so yeah, it was kind of more like the second part, I just went home that night. And I was like, I am done. I’m not doing this anymore. It’s over finished. And I just threw like a little rant. And I was frustrated. And I was kind of done. And it wasn’t even that the point that I really had made up my mind that I’m going to go start my own business or whatever it was, it was more like, I’m going to find a new operation unity. And then in the next coming weeks, as my cash flow kind of started drying out, I started looking at different opportunities. I kind of stumbled upon the idea of entrepreneurship. And in those next couple of weeks is when I was like, Okay, let me give this pop a shot.
David Ralph [18:14]
But that’s so broad, isn’t it entrepreneurship? You know, my I know from the emails that I get, my listeners almost want an answer. They almost say, these are my passions, what should I do? And we have these chats and we have Skype calls and we do coaching sessions. But to just go, it’s entrepreneurial. What should I do within that entrepreneurial world? That’s almost so big, it will blow people’s minds because there’s too much choice out there. How did you narrow it down to something that you could do? Did you look back to like, power Duncan thing? Okay, I created a website, I probably could do that again. How did it sort of pan out for you?
Jeet Banerjee [18:53]
Yeah, absolutely. So unlike the biggest thing I wanted to do was because I knew that like most industries in most countries needs to start had a huge learning curve. So I started with the things that I knew and the things that I liked. So when I broke that list down and I was creating like a T chart to figure this out, I was literally down to like two or three ideas that I could have possibly done. And out of the two or three ideas, one of them probably made the most sense. And it ended up being creating websites for other other customers doing like videos, mobile apps, and online marketing. So that was kind of the whole idea. Because I had understood, like how to make websites, what makes a good website, and it was something that I really enjoyed doing, just seeing like your ideas come to life. So that’s when I was like, That’s it, I’m going to create my own like web development company. And it was just stemming from all the things I knew and all the things that I liked.
David Ralph [19:41]
Can you remember the attitude that you sort of threw away that you didn’t want to do?
Jeet Banerjee [19:46]
Um, one of them was at tutoring. So I was pretty good at like in terms of like math and stuff like that at school, but it wasn’t something I really liked. So I kind of threw that one away, even though I knew a lot about it. And then the third thing was coming back to basketball. But I couldn’t really think of any solid way to monetize just basketball because it was so broad. So that’s, that’s the third one that I threw away.
David Ralph [20:08]
And could you do it now with your experience? You know, I’m not going to ask you, you know what you would do? But do you think that you could monetize basketball?
Jeet Banerjee [20:16]
Um, I absolutely think I could monetize basketball. But I think what it would come down to the end of the day would be is the amount of monetization I’ll get from basketball worth it compared to x, y, and z. So when I when I kind of wait like that, it might not be worth it. But I could definitely find a way to monetize it. Yes. Because I
David Ralph [20:33]
have fascinating chats with some of my mates who are really good at computers. If my computers ever break down, I always phone them up, and I come down and I go, Oh, yeah, you need to do this, you need to do that. And I go, Why? Why are you working for someone, you should do this for yourself? You should go out there. And a lot of them say to me, yes, you see, but it’s my hobby. And if I do it for a job, when I won’t like it as much, and I kind of go, that’s madness. Surely, if it’s a hobby, that’s the best job. That’s the thing that you like doing. And if you’re getting paid for it, then why not do it. But that there seems to be that sort of that elastic band on them. That kind of holds them back from actually doing something that they like doing. It’s almost like they feel that work has to be horrible. And hobbies have to be good. And I come along now and I say look, I just have these conversations on the mic every single day. I love them. In many ways. It doesn’t feel like work. Hi, it’s not a hobby isn’t a hobby that you have joined them up. put you in?
Jeet Banerjee [21:32]
Yeah, absolutely. I’m know I’ve definitely heard that as well. So I mean, when I’ve heard that in the past, it’s basically been like, like my biggest, like, my biggest opinion on that is that I think people like know that a job is so horrible, kind of what you were saying. So they they expect that like something so good. If they turned it into work, it would end up being horrible as well. So they end up kind of shying away from doing that,
David Ralph [21:56]
so to speak. A lot of it comes from school with it. We are brainwashed at school, that we have to get a job, we have to get our qualifications, we have to sit in boring classrooms day after day after day. So when we go to work, we kind of think that’s what life is. I’ve spent the last 10 years doing this doing stuff I don’t really want to do. This is it, but at least I’m getting paid for it. And that’s the kind of you know, the Achilles heel of everything. When you say to people, why aren’t you doing it? They kind of go? Well, because I got to do this. I’ve got to do that. I’ve got it. And you kind of go, Well, yeah, but you could do both of it. You could have the money and love doing it as well. I’m going to play I’m on the path I rented Gee, I’m going to play a bit of a motivational speech here. And this says perfectly What I’m saying is he Jim Carrey,
Jim Carrey [22:46]
my father could have been a great comedian, but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. So he made a conservative choice. Instead, he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old, he was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father, not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.
David Ralph [23:12]
Is that the message that we’re talking about g?
Jeet Banerjee [23:16]
Yeah, absolutely. That’s one of my favourite speeches as well. So it’s awesome that you shared that.
David Ralph [23:21]
Well, why do you think that is so powerful, because when when I first heard it, it really did make the hairs go up at the back of my neck. It was just so simple, but so overwhelmingly powerful, but I almost wanted the world to sit down and listen to that, and listen to it every single day. What boy, what does it touching you when you listen to it.
Jeet Banerjee [23:45]
Um, so I think the biggest thing that touches on me is that I think a lot of people have these like dreams and big aspirations for what they want to do. But they never even give it a chance, or they never even try it once. And I think that’s the biggest thing he’s saying is that not nothing is impossible, unless you actually even give it a shot, or you can try. And I think that’s the biggest thing that hits hard, because I think so many people have dreams that they never even give a shot to or try to on the side, when all they need to do is try just to see how it pans out. If it doesn’t work out, then their life stays the way it is. And if it ends up working out, their life ends up being 1000 times better. So that’s really where it hits for me.
David Ralph [24:23]
And what I can do by tackling the impossible, or in their mind is impossible before they do it. Quite often. It doesn’t work, but it leaves you in a different position. And I generally find by taking huge action and being positive towards something, you end up in a better position than you were anyway. Because you suddenly realise, hey, I’m taking control of my life. Up to this point, I’ve been pushed from pillar to post by my boss, by my parents, whatever. I’m now doing this thing because I want to do it. And yes, it hasn’t quite ended up where I want to be. But I’ll go I’ve got the armoury. Now I’ve got the tools to be able to go one next step, and then another step and then another step. And I reckon I could do that. And the impossible suddenly becomes possible, doesn’t it? I think is the phrase, impossible is just I’m possible.
Unknown Speaker [25:17]
David Ralph [25:20]
That was a very quick answer. veggie. Oh, I was on a big rant there. I thought you were gonna rent went back on the rent back?
Jeet Banerjee [25:29]
Oh, no, absolutely. No. I mean, I completely agree with your points, like in regards to kind of talking about the impossibilities and the way that people approach it and stuff like that. I I absolutely agree with all that stuff. I think the biggest thing that I’ve seen from what people from like just talking to people and just hearing about kind of their dreams and stuff like that. The biggest downfall is that people don’t even want to give it a chance. They don’t even look at it as a possibility, so to speak. And I think that’s just that’s how they’ve been trained. Because like when you go to school for 12, or 16 or 20 years, however long people go to school for, it’s not that they ever get a choice on what they want to do or how they want to do it, they the whole time, it’s just this is what you’re going to do. This is the class you’re going to take, this is the grade you need to take. So people when they get older, they feel like they don’t have essentially an option and anything, they feel like it’s got to go as planned. And it’s got to be done in a certain way. So people kind of automatically cancel out those and ordinary paths are those non traditional routes. And I think that’s, that’s the biggest thing, kind of that stems from being so young. And from like, the days when you’re starting school, and it kind of plays a huge factor later on in your life.
David Ralph [26:33]
Well, but this is Join Up Dots. So I’m going to take you back in Join Up Dots, because you were saying about organic traffic. And a lot of our listeners would be thinking, yes, I’ll just throw up a website, and I’m suddenly going to get a million visitors. And as we know, quite often that doesn’t happen unless you stumble across something which is just waiting to explode out there. But you built a website, and suddenly you were getting emails, suddenly you was getting conversations going, and you were getting organic traffic, and by the word organic, you weren’t paying for it, it was just coming to you. Was that a fluke? Or did you actually set it up in a certain way that you was expecting that to occur.
Jeet Banerjee [27:15]
Um, so there was definitely a lot of planning that went behind it, it was just figuring out what the result was going to be. Because that was kind of unknown to me. So I mean, when I started my blog, my biggest thing was, I felt like I was a young entrepreneur, and I was learning new things and experiencing new mistakes and failures and stuff like that on a daily basis. So I thought it’d be great not only for myself to be able to go back in time and see what I’ve been talking about and what I dealt with in the past, but just to be able to share my own life and what’s going on with other entrepreneurs and other dream chasers and maybe help hoping to help them in any way. So that’s really what the idea came across as and the one biggest thing that I wanted to do from day one was because I was a big reader of our blogs, like entrepreneur, com or ink magazine, and stuff like that. But all these sites wrote very, very formally, it was like I was looking up to like a teacher, a professor or something. And they were just kind of teaching facts to me. But it wasn’t very relatable. And I wanted to create a blog where I could just relate to people be completely transparent, be completely honest, and write in a language that would essentially connect with other people. So not being formal and stuff like that, but not being afraid to write a cuss word here and there or just speak my mind and stuff like that. So that’s literally what I did when I was starting my blog. And I would just kind of write these posts, share them on Twitter, Facebook, Google Plus basic social networks. And I started seeing that really fast, people were really connecting with the posts, they were writing comments, they were liking them, they were sharing them. And that’s how they kind of slowly spread apart and eventually, like my following, and my network, and my traffic on the site just slowly, organically grew as more and more people connected with my message. And I think the greatest part was that I had a very strong base of loyal readers. So it wasn’t like I was getting people that were coming in and reading my article once it was more like they were subscribing and they were becoming lifelong fans of the site. And they were continuously sharing my posts. So I was kind of growing very fast like that.
David Ralph [29:08]
So you were setting up a blog, young entrepreneur, and your posts on a daily basis or a weekly basis was basically detailing your successes, your failures, what you’ve tried what you are scared to try. And people were been reading that and because it was so authentically, you so honest, it built up a trust.
Jeet Banerjee [29:30]
Yeah, absolutely. So it was just like, let’s say, like, I went to a meeting today. And I learned something new where I got, I made the worst sales mistake possible. I wanted to I was kind of like for two purposes, I wanted to document it for myself. And then if anyone else could find value out of it, I wanted to do the same thing. So I would just go on my blog, let’s say two or three times a week and write up a post for whatever that took place that day or earlier that week. And I would kind of just share it. So that was kind of the biggest thing that I that I did. And it started really people, other people really started finding value in it, not just young entrepreneurs, but even older people now find tremendous value in it. And that’s kind of what built up my traffic because they liked the content. And they were happy to share it because it helped them.
David Ralph [30:08]
Is that a key thing that people have to do out there? Somebody who’s looking for a business opportunity, we keep saying you’ve got to be authentic to yourself, because if you are authentic and you find your pure voice, it’s so much easier to do it, then trying to be somebody on a daily basis. But it’s not you it’s just almost impossible. If you listen to me on the mic, ain’t much difference from myself anyway, it just kind of a bigger version of what I am normally. So it’s quite easy to do. Is that what they have to do? Did I have to find something which is basically event and once they can stop trying to write in a way that isn’t, you know, if you go back to sort of managers, managers in offices, when they give you reports, they always write in a really bizarre way but isn’t isn’t English, they would always say, Yes, g8 is a self contained individual and a self motivated, and you see it on resumes and CBS as well, people writing a really kind of bizarre way because they they almost feel that’s what’s expected. But generally what we’re saying is, you’ve got to find a way of communicating naturally. And if you can do that naturally, so it brings about the essence of who you are, it’s more likely to resonate with somebody because by you will understand it because it’s like by as well. Is that true?
Jeet Banerjee [31:29]
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That’s that’s like spot on. So basically, like, the biggest thing I’ve realised is like, it’s crazy, because it’s the internet, you can see people’s faces, you can’t see the tone or anything, you can hear their tone or anything. But for some reason people can still tell when someone is being themselves and being genuine and authentic, versus when someone is being fake. Like I don’t know what it is. But even I can tell when I read something or I read a piece by someone, I can really get that I get that feeling in the inside. Rather, this is this is really how this person feels, or I feel like this is some kind of like, mask that they’re putting on just to write a good article. So I’ve seen that happen quite often. And I think the biggest thing you want to do is you want to be yourself, it’s the easiest way to do it. And to put that into perspective, like I remember in school, when I would have to write papers formally, or whatever the case was, it would take me hours, four or five hours to put together two to three page paper, when I go on my blog, and I want to write a two, enough words, that would be holding two to three pages, it might take me a half hour or 45 minutes, because I’m so casual. And it’s not to say that the quality is bad or negative or anything, but it’s more along the lines of I don’t have to think before I talk, I just talk what comes to my mind and what I think is right, and how I would convey a specific message. I don’t have to think of five different ways of writing it. I just write it. And I think that’s the true way of getting your true authentic voice out there.
David Ralph [32:48]
It’s, it’s so simple. But it’s so hard as well, isn’t it? Because once again, yeah, we’re breaking down what we’ve been taught in education, and Ben employment the years and years and years, always in employment for years and years and years. And I used to like to have fun and mischief basically. And it wasn’t frowned upon. But I didn’t like it either. And so for most of my career life said, Oh, you’re a maverick, your base, your baton, it, there was always a kind of critical word that I kind of threw at me. But I look back on it now. And I think that was just me being me. And when you wanted me to be the serious person in the board meeting, that was me playing a role. And a person who wanted to sort of just enjoy themselves do the work as well as I could but also enjoy themselves was actually my pure thing. But it’s so hard to get that through to people. Because we believe that work has to be hard. We believe that work has to be a full day of effort. But I’m talking to people constantly, but earn three times as much as I do probably 10 times as much as I do. And I do about two hours a day. And you sort of get out, I do two hours a day of what I really love doing. And then they go off to the beach and they surf and they play golf and that and you kind of think how’s that work. And the reason it worked to them and it has worked for them is once again, they’re finding something they can do really well, then they can do it much faster. And because it’s naturally them, they’re not having to think about it, they just sort of get up and do it and away they go. And that’s that’s just brilliant in it is totally brilliant.
Jeet Banerjee [34:30]
Yeah, exactly. And I think I think that’s where that’s what it all comes down to is when you find what you love, like the money will come to you. And I think the biggest mistake that people make is that they chase money. But money is like the most elusive object in the world. So you should chase your passions and chase your dreams. And money will automatically come and find you eventually. And I think that’s the biggest thing that if people can nail that fact down and kind of really focus and get get that down to like the nitty gritty where they stopped focusing on money, and they focus on personal habits is creating value. And all these other external factors that mean a lot money will come right into their hands without them having to try hard.
David Ralph [35:07]
I agree with that. I’ve been doing this show. And you know, your Episode 149. And I’ve been doing it since I launched on the 30th of April. And I know I did not focus at all on making money in any shape or form. Even when when things that I was doing externally to provide me with the opportunity to do this would not paying me as much as I was earning before. I still did not focus on money. And people were saying to me, oh, you’re going to monetize this? How are you going to make money? And I was going to say, all I’m going to do is build up an audience. And if the audience is big enough, then the money will come to me. Yes, no, but you should go out looking for it. And now as I was saying at the beginning, I’ve got appetisers coming towards me. And they’re saying, well, we want to put our products at the beginning and I want to put your products at the end and all that kind of stuff. The money starts coming to you if you don’t chase it, and it’s difficult to do. And that’s why we’re saying I suppose g but you make the slide of faith, you you keep something in reserve to help you in that moment. Because if you can give yourself a long enough run a runway, you can really build on your passions, not chase the money. And ultimately, when big time that’s what I believe.
Jeet Banerjee [36:22]
Yeah, absolutely. That’s exactly kind of the model that I started my business on and businesses on. And it’s worked amazing. So I mean, I definitely recommend that to any listeners, anybody out there that’s really kind of just solely focused on the money, kind of take your eyes off the money and focus on some bigger things. Because there are things that are bigger than money, believe me. And you know what i
David Ralph [36:41]
found as well, I’ll tell you why. This is the first show that I’ve recorded in two weeks. Although I’ve been going live every single day. I’ve been on holiday, so I haven’t actually been doing it. And I feel very Randy tonight, I feel I feel like I’ve got something on my chest that I need to get off. But what I have found as well is people that the money actually end up with a bigger, but they felt that they could achieve. So you sort of go right, okay, I need 20 grand, I need 20 grand a year to pay all my bills, I’m going to get that 20 grand as soon as possible. And they get that 20 grand, and then that’s it. But the people that sit back and they work on their passions, and they provide value and they become authentic. They don’t look for that money. And actually, they end up with something so much bigger. And it’s almost unbelievable the amount and you know, you can put it down to talent, you can put it down to passion, you can put it down to whatever. But if you look at the people, like you know, the Paul McCartney’s and the Elton John’s and all those kind of people, yes. What are they doing? They’re singing, they’re writing songs, they’re providing value to us. We like it and they earn millions and millions and millions of pounds. Is it truly what they should be earning to do that, you know, against somebody like a doctor that goes in and they work really hard. And they’re running up and down the wards and they’re really pushing it? should somebody like elton john big all this money? Well, kind of Yes. Because he’s playing purely two extremes. And he is providing something that we want so we pay him a lot of money for it. And that that’s that’s the thing again, isn’t it? If you don’t for the amount of money that you believe you can get, you miss out on the money, but you don’t believe you can get but will naturally come to you.
Jeet Banerjee [38:22]
Yeah, absolutely. I agree. I mean, like people, I often hear that all the time, like in the media, which is people talking like oh my god, I can’t believe like Floyd Mayweather makes $60 million a fight. It’s absolutely ridiculous. He’s in the ring for 3040 minutes, whatever the case is. But I think it’s it’s it’s a lot of things that people don’t see that go on in the background, that kind of have elevated him to the level of that kind of earning or whatever it is, I’m sure ever seen. I know his storey. He’s been boxing ever since he was like 11 years old. And when you’re 11 years old, you’re not really thinking along in a box, like make $60 million a fight. It’s more like I actually like doing this. It’s a fun sport, I want to be really good at it. And I want to win. And just from stemming from that belief, and just keeping that belief close to heart and just fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, you eventually get to the point where you become so good, you become such an entertainer and you become such a icon to so many people, that money will just come flowing into your bank account whether whether whatever the case is, even though you didn’t necessarily have that focus on money. So I think there’s so many people out there that achieve amazing success like this, but it often goes unnoticed, just or like the things behind the background go unnoticed, just because people are thinking, wow, this guy earned so much money. It’s all about the money. But for people that are the big earners, it’s more than the money. And that’s what you have to really realise.
David Ralph [39:38]
Well, absolutely, yeah. You know, we benchmark ourselves on success. And that’s one of the things that stops people trying. They look at these people, and they kind of go out, it’s all right for them. Oh, vape got a blessed life. You know, I saw Jay Leno, I was over in Las Vegas. And I went to see Jay Leno in concert. And I didn’t even know he was a stand up comedian. I do know much about him. I just knew he sat behind a desk and sort of chatted to people. And one of the blokes who was sitting near me one of the chap sitting near me says to him, it’s just me. Do you know he does like 265 gigs a year stand up. And I went really does he. And when you look at it that way that’s ever that is hard effort. And he’s flying. And he’s going to a place and he’s doing his stuff. And he’s going to the next place. And when he was doing the tonight show, and he’s getting back, but always sees that he’s sitting behind a desk having a chat. And it just seems easy. But really what he’s been doing, he’s buying tuning himself for years and years and years to make it seem easy. And unfortunately for all of us, that’s the bit we see. So we all look at and go, I could do that it’d be no problem. I can sit behind a desk and have a chat to somebody. But of course you haven’t seen those dodgy clubs and those horrible hotels and everything that he’s using to sort of force himself up. And, you know, working on these chops working on these jokes to be able to get himself to that point, but it seems effortless. And then the money comes to us. stops us in our tracks, doesn’t it?
Jeet Banerjee [41:05]
Yeah, absolutely. Exactly.
David Ralph [41:09]
I’ll tell you, I’ll tell you what I like about Eugene. And I like so many things about you. It’s untrue. But what I like about you is you are totally yourself, we’ve already touched on that. You know what you want to do, but you aren’t giving back to people. And when you said that you wrote those three things out and one was basketball one was to to ship and one was building websites, you’ve really kind of, okay, you play basketball behind a bit, but you’ve taken two of them, haven’t you. So you’ve taken the two to ship because you now teach entrepreneurs how to get going. And you you brought that element into you. And that is the part that almost is lighting you up inside because you prefer that that ability to actually lay in your bed at night and go, yes, that person emailed me and because of me, it’s it’s made their life a little but easier. That is actually what lights you up inside. And that is the thing that people need. They need people like you G and that’s what I like about you, you’re you’re, you’re successful, you’re doing what you’re doing. But you’re also helping people that that’s that’s a good way of doing it.
Jeet Banerjee [42:19]
I appreciate that on, like where that really comes from is when I kind of decided that I want to become an entrepreneur, I was surprised to see how much wealth of information articles, videos and stuff that other successful entrepreneurs had thrown out into the internet. And that material really enabled me to be successful. So ever since that day, I promised myself that no matter what happens if I did find success, and I learned stuff as an entrepreneur, I would do the exact same thing. That way, someone else that’s following in the same footsteps of becoming an entrepreneur would have more resources and more knowledge to be able to succeed. Because if I honestly didn’t have that those resources and that knowledge on the internet, I don’t know if I would have been successful today because that that stuff helps so much. And it’s all thanks to people that took time out of their busy lives that were very successful and said, you know what I’m going to give back to the community so that we can get 100 100 people that are just as successful as me. So that’s really where that whole thing comes from.
David Ralph [43:15]
And guess what, gee, I’m going to let you into a secret. You’ve got the Internet, and I’ve got the internet and all our listeners have got the internet as well, because they’re listening to this. So if you want to do something, and I want to follow a path, but I don’t know how to do it, I’m kind of saying but they could do what you did. And they could research and in their lunch breaks when they’re in that rubbish job, they could actually look at a few websites and find out how other people have got going. And the thing that I find most appealing to this. And I find it time and time again, is when you reach out to somebody who is already doing what you want to do nine times out of 10, they will actually help you. And it was a real mindset shift. When I started this, I will realise I could reach out to complete strangers, and they would be willing to help. And there’s a kind of pay it forward thing in the world, which you kind of think isn’t there until you get into it. And you realise that the most successful people will help you. And the people that are just ahead of a curve will help you. And it’s it’s that ability, as you were saying is the ability to feel good about yourself, and make yourself feel that you are assisting. That really is what this world is all about. And there’s more people out there that will reach out to these these people who are struggling to get it going. Ben not. Was there somebody that you had? Did you reach out to somebody not expecting an answer in the early days, but actually got an answer. And that gave you the sort of the fuel to actually think yes, I could do this?
Jeet Banerjee [44:52]
Um, yeah, absolutely. Actually there is. someone by the name of Neil Patel, who had kind of reached out to I kind of looked up to a lot of the stuff he had done. And really, I’m excited about his accomplishments and opportunity to talk to him. So I sent an email. I really didn’t think I was going to get any response or anything, but I just did it. And then
David Ralph [45:10]
let’s just touch on that. Why did you think because it’s true, we all think, but why did you think that you weren’t going to get any response?
Jeet Banerjee [45:18]
Um, the biggest thing was, I felt like this person probably gets 100 of these emails a day, I’m just some random kid, we have no connexion. It’s almost like it’s borderline weird, probably because this was when I was 17 years old. So I was like, I don’t see this happening. But I’m just going to do it whatever, take a leap of faith. It’s kind of like that eyes, closed syndrome, just do it type of thing. And that’s really why I didn’t think I was going to get response was because he’s so busy, so successful, and he must get hundreds of these responses. So what makes me so special? So that’s really what I thought,
David Ralph [45:48]
limiting beliefs, self limiting beliefs. Even though Yep, we got a person so busy, that’s a person so successful. And I’m talking to people now who see like that, and they’re saying, I do two hours a day, anything. Blimey, why are we all thinking that these successful people are so snowed under that they can’t respond to an email, because most of them are successful, because they’ve streamlined, they’ve got virtual assistants, they’ve got assistance, they’ve got people to help them. And a lot of the things that bog you down when you start are not in their realms anymore. They’ve sort of handed it over. So there’s certain sort of social media and different administration tasks. And so Neil Patel, I can imagine, would have been delighted to get that email from you, even if a certain assistant had printed it out and looked at it and put our hand over to Neil, because it’s something that is different from his normal day. And I love it when I get emails from people, or people say, Oh, you know, what do you think about this? And would you like a chat and all that kind of stuff? Because it confirms that what you’re trying to do in the world is having an impact, I suppose back, it is not some boat. And so he received that email. And he just knew that he’s touched his 17 year old. And it was all worthwhile, but it was why he was doing it. Do you? Do you agree with that?
Jeet Banerjee [47:14]
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the same goes for me, like when I see a new email from someone through my website, or someone looking for help, it’s really exciting. Because it’s something different. It’s something, something really where I get that heart heartfelt opportunity to help change someone else’s lives. So I love answering those kinds of emails. And I try to do I try to get responses very, very quickly. And I try to give detailed responses, not like a one liner or something like that. Like I really care about what they have to say how I can help them and all that kind of stuff. So I feel like a lot of other successful people that have the big, ginormous hearts feel the same way. And it’s just you just have to take that leap of faith and you just have to believe that the role model you look up to her this person feels just have that big heart. And if you see the Milky will respond to you. And that’s that’s just what it comes down to.
David Ralph [48:01]
Have you heard a vocal?
Unknown Speaker [48:03]
vocal vocal line? No, I have not. Now I
David Ralph [48:08]
get because this is brilliant. I’ve started using this because when I started this job, I’d get emails from people and I would write really lengthy emails back. And now I’m getting so many of them. I’m trying to respond to everyone. But I’ve discovered this online voice recorder. It’s free called a vocal room voc a double zero. And you can actually record your answer and send it with an email and they can play it. And it’s brilliant because they hear your voice. And I know it’s from you, and you’re really connecting with people. And God, it’s so much quicker than actually writing an email. You just basically record what you would say, send it to them. And it’s it’s 100 times more powerful. It’s called Volcker Rule is brilliant.
Jeet Banerjee [48:52]
Okay, awesome. Yeah, I just wrote that down. I’m definitely gonna check that out after that sounds amazing.
David Ralph [48:56]
Yeah. And you just send it across any kind of supposed hopefully thing, this class. It makes them feel better. I’ll tell you who I got that from. There was a chat there’s a chap called john Lee Dumas. Are you aware john Lee Dumas, he’s a podcasting. Yeah. And I sent him an email on New Year’s Day. Because he always used to say, I get up at five o’clock every day, five o’clock every day. And I, I emailed him to say, john, I do hope you are on up at 5am on New Year’s Day, you know, for God’s sake kind of thing. As I sort of time check email. And he actually sent me this, this response back with this light little voice on it. And I clicked it and it was him. It was him sort of answering me saying no, no, you know, we had a few drinks last night, we did bass, we did bad. And I’m having a sleeping today, you know, all that kind of stuff. And I was really touched. And I thought to myself, when I launched my podcast, that’s what I’m going to do. Because what you’re doing, Ben, you’re bridging gaps, aren’t you? You actually trying to connect with people. And once you do connect with people, once again, there’s there’s a ground swell that you suddenly see, but your authentic self can be shared again.
Jeet Banerjee [50:02]
Yeah, definitely. This this is really awesome. Yeah, I’m excited because I think that’ll not only save me a lot of time, but I like you said it really puts that personal touch with a complete stranger that kind of unifies that connexion. So I love this. This sounds like an awesome software.
David Ralph [50:16]
Yeah, it’s good. It’s good. Just before we send you back on the Sermon on the mic, I’m going to play the Steve Jobs speech because it is the theme of the show.
Unknown Speaker [50:25]
Where Where are you heading?
David Ralph [50:26]
Because you’re 21 now, and you are ahead of the curve? I think you are. And I notice sort of 1415 year olds coming out, but you are you really sort of going great guns? Where do you see your life in the next five or 10 years? Do you have plans? Or are you kind of making it up as you go along?
Jeet Banerjee [50:46]
Um, so I definitely do have a lot of goals and like plans that I’ve set forth. For myself, I think the biggest one I have is that I want to be completely financially free by the time I turned 25. So that basically means that money isn’t really a question on any purchase or anything that I want to do. So that’s like my biggest goal. And then, I guess kind of looking forward to the next five to 10 years. I love technology and everything that comes with it. But I also want to kind of expand my businesses and kind of do stuff outside of just technology. Like I had passions of opening up restaurants or franchises getting into real estate, stuff like that. So I’ve got kind of these benchmarks and future plans that I have that I really want to try out and see where it goes. So those are also some things that I’m looking at moving forward. Does anything scare
David Ralph [51:29]
you now to?
Jeet Banerjee [51:32]
I’m To be honest, nothing really does scare me nowadays. I think I’ve I’ve kind of gone past, I’ve kind of been able to learn what how to tackle fear and how all that stuff works. So there’s nothing that can actually really scare me.
David Ralph [51:45]
Nothing at all.
Unknown Speaker [51:48]
No, nothing at all.
David Ralph [51:50]
Even if I go boom, desk at
Jeet Banerjee [51:54]
that one didn’t scare me. But maybe if I was someone came out of a corner or something and did that maybe I’d have a friend. But yeah, that would actually probably scare me. You’re right. Absolutely.
David Ralph [52:05]
Always, always shout out boo when you least expect it. So let’s play the words of Steve Jobs. And as I say event, I’m going to send you back in time. But I am fascinated to see whether the actual Join Up Dots of your life, you can actually trace it back. So this is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [52:21]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards. 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn path. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [52:56]
So I know you’re only 21. But can you join sup up your life? Can you say yes, I’ve got here because of Batman Batman that just like Steve Jobs is saying,
Jeet Banerjee [53:05]
Oh, yeah, absolutely, I actually can. So I think the biggest thing like looking all the way back to like my childhood is like, moment, my parents came here, when like, just a year before I was born. And my parents didn’t have a lot of money, none of that stuff. So from an early age, I remember waking up in the middle of the night and not seeing my dad at home because he was out working and trying to support the family and kind of do these things. So from a very young age, I had this idea of hard work really instilled into my mind. And I kind of saw this like almost like change, because in the beginning, my father was working jobs and stuff like that for maybe the first 910 11 years of his life. And then on the side while he was working his job, he decided open up his own company. And then that company was slowly growing slowly growing. But I just kind of remember kind of like as the company did better. And as he kind of went full time into the company, we moved out of like the ghetto area, we moved out of apartments, we moved into a bigger house. So it’s kind of like being able to see these tangible things happen around me like how a and b is leading to see. So how working hard starting your own business like these ideas were kind of instilled into my mind, even though I didn’t believe that this is the path I was going to take at the time. These ideas were instilled into my mind at a very early age. And then kind of looking forward. Like the biggest thing that really changed my perspective was when I got the job, I kind of when I got some jobs and stuff like that, I really quickly realised how horrifying it really was to work these jobs. And I kind of really understood what my father would talk about why he’d be so frustrated when he got home, after working all night and stuff like that. And that’s when it kind of hit me because I’d seen this in my previous in the previous years that okay, if you if if you really want to keep expanding yourself, you don’t like the job idea, then you start your own business and kind of take this path. So I was kind of able to almost Connect dots from like my father’s from what my father had gone through and kind of what I had learned from just watching and listening. And I was able to kind of connect those dots kind of looking back into my own life. And I kind of use those experiences to get where I am today. If that makes sense.
David Ralph [55:06]
It makes total sense. Is there a big.in your life when you look back and go Yes, gee, Banerjee was born in vain. But that was the moment.
Jeet Banerjee [55:15]
I think the biggest I think the biggest doc that I can connect in my life is probably like at nine just having the having the passion, having the will and just having the creative ability or the imagination to say I’m going to create a website and to actually be able to go through with it. Like at the time, it didn’t seem like such a great accomplishment. But kind of when I look back now I’m like that was like the day that like my creative side is born and kind of like my almost like my my dream big like my dreamer inside me was born on that day, essentially, because I had a dream and I didn’t let it sit there actually did something about
David Ralph [55:50]
it. I had my back. And that’s that’s the thing that I want all the listeners to listen, listen. And so really, listen again and listen again and jot it down. You have dream and you went for it. And it’s as simple as that. Isn’t it? Really? You took action? You You decided on something, and you took action? And if it failed, when at least you tried.
Jeet Banerjee [56:12]
Yeah, absolutely. Like the the best quote that I believe in is that I doubt and fear will kill more dreams than failure ever will. And I think that sums
David Ralph [56:22]
it all up. I think he sums it up nicely as well. But this is the end of the show. And this is the bit when I send you back in time to have a one on one with your younger self. And if I could send you back, what age g would you speak to? Would you speak to the nine year old power? Don’t one? Would you speak to the sort of 13 year old one and go What the hell are you doing, you know, keep keep going at it. So I’m going to play the theme tune. And when it fades out, you’re up, this is the Sermon on the mic
with the best.
Jeet Banerjee [57:11]
So kind of looking back, I guess the age that I probably want to go back and talk to myself would be like at 15. Because I think that was like the time when I that’s when I started getting my jobs. And I kind of started like getting them larger experience of life. And I think the biggest thing that I would tell myself back then was um, one thing is that even though even those working jobs and stuff that I didn’t like what I ended up doing, a lot of times, I wouldn’t give it my full effort. And like after looking back, no matter what what you’re doing, or how you doing something, I think you should always give your full effort even if it’s not something you like. And that’s just so that you can get the most out of each experience. And I think that’s one thing I never did at that age. So when I immediately found something that I didn’t like, I just kind of turned myself off. And I just put in the bare minimum that I needed to do in order to successfully kind of move past it. So I think that’s one thing. And then the second thing that I would kind of talk to my younger self about was kind of learning to listen more, because when I was at that age, I just wanted to talk talk talk. And it took me a couple years to really figure out that if you keep your mouth shut you listen, you’re going to learn so much. And you don’t always have to get the last word in or you don’t always have to talk and stuff like that. So that was another key thing that I would try try teaching myself because I think I could have learned a lot more.
David Ralph [58:27]
Gee, how can our audience connect with you sir.
Jeet Banerjee [58:31]
Um, so the best way to learn about me connect with me, read my blog, email me Whatever it is, is to my personal website, which is G energy. com spelled Je te da n er g.com.
David Ralph [58:46]
We will have all the links on our show notes, we will have Facebook, we will have Twitter, we have LinkedIn and the website as well so people can connect with you easily. cheap. Thank you so much for spending time with us today, joining up those dots. And please come back again when you have more dots to join. Because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting our past it’s the best way to build our futures, Jeet Banerjee. Thank you so much.
Jeet Banerjee [59:08]
No problem. Thanks so much for having me as a pleasure.
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David Ralph [59:38]
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