Tayo Rockson Joins Us On The Steve Jobs Inspired Join Up Dots Podcast
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Introducing Tayo Rockson
Tayo Rockson is today’s guest joining us on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots podcast interview.
He is one of those people that I asked to come on the show, and then started researching them and thought “Man….I’m glad that I have got him coming on”.
Tayo Rockson has a dream to not just improve his lot, or that of his clients, but he is taking on the world.
He wants to bring the four corners of the globe together to get people to accept our differences, both physically and culturally.
But where did this mission come from?
When did he decide this was needed to be done and he was the man to do it?
Well unusually he had a huge education growing up, for as a child he grew up in four different continents.
How The Dots Joined Up For Tayo
Tayo has called Sweden, Burkina Faso, Nigeria, Vietnam and the United States home and so considers himself a true citizen of the world.
He wants to celebrate uniqueness and encourage diversity, build global mind-sets, tell stories about culture and most importantly to educate the world about the beauty in all of us and how we can work together to improve our global identities.”
And with a podcast that is soaring up the charts “As Told By Nomads” and an inspiring online presence he is certainly a man on a mission to achieve this aim.
And its an aim that will put many people to shame who think about doing something and say to themselves “Nah, that will never work so what’s the point”
Well let’s bring onto the show to start joining up dots, as we discuss the words of Steve Jobs in today’s Free podcast, with the one and only Mr Tayo Rockson.
During the show we discussed such weighty topics such as:
How the words “When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe then you will be successful” are the words that he lives by on a daily basis!
How he knows his dream is far bigger than what he can offer on his own, but it still doesn’t scare him at all!
How he gets stopped in the streets by fans of the actor Idris Elba….google him to see if they are right!
How he came to the dawning realisation that his experiences and knowledge were the things that he should be using on a daily basis!
The madness that effects all of us when we start living the lives that we believe other people want for us, instead focusing on what we actually want instead!
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Audio Transcription Of Tayo Rockson Interview
When we’re young, we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up settling. join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here’s your host live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Ralph.
David Ralph [0:27]
Yes, hello. Good morning to you. Well, I hope you’re right. I hope you had a good night’s sleep. Or if it’s in the afternoon, when you’re listening to this, what are you still doing in bed, you should be up in about grabbing the dreams of your life. We’ve got a brilliant guest on the show today. He is a guest who, when I asked him to come on the show, and Ben started researching him. I thought, Man, I’m glad I’ve got him coming on. This is a fascinating story. He has a dream to not just improve his law or that of his clients, but he’s taking on the world. He wants to bring the four corners of the globe together to get people to accept differences, both physically and culturally. But where did this mission come from? And when did he decide this was needed to be done? And he was the man to do it? Well, unusually, he had a huge education growing up for as a child, he grew up in four different continents. I don’t think I’ve even been to four different continents. He has called Sweden, Burkina Faso, Nigeria, Vietnam and the United States home and so considers himself a true citizen of the world. He wants to celebrate uniqueness, and encourage diversity, build global mindsets, tell stories about culture, and most importantly, to educate the world about the beauty and all of us, and how we can work together to improve our global identities. And with a podcast that is sewing up the charts, as told by nomads and an inspiring online presence, he is certainly a man on a mission to achieve his aim. And it’s a name that will put many people to shame who think about doing something inside themselves now that will never work. So what’s the point? He’s taking on the world people he’s taking taking on the world and he’s giving it a shot. So let’s bring on the show to start join up. dots ball one and only global Nomad himself. Mr. Tayo. Roxanne, how are you sir?
Tayo Rockson [2:10]
Wow. Great. That’s quite the intro, David. Really appreciate it.
David Ralph [2:15]
Well, you know, I tell you what, I have to be honest with you. You’re good looking chap. I’m looking at pictures of you here. And I showed pictures of you to my wife the other day. And she went Oh, he’s very nice. He’s very nice. I’ve kept her away from the recording today. But you are you’ve you’ve got this kind of a young Idris Elba look if anybody’s going Who the hell’s Idris Elba? Think about Lou for the BBC show and some other things. And yeah, you’re, I don’t want to flatter you because I’ll be honest, you didn’t flatter me before we started recording. I will tell them what you said. But I’m gonna bring it out. So I was I was shocked. I was shocked and disappointed. But yeah, you’ve got a look to you sort of like Ray Bans and big teeth and glamour, as people told you that before? But
Tayo Rockson [3:02]
yeah, I mean, it’s funny, because that I never see it. But everybody says it yourself. But I often get because you know he was on the wire. And I’ll get stopped in the street and someone say, Hey, have you seen the wire? You look like stringer Bell? Yeah, yeah. Or if it’s a Luthor, because I mean, huge, yourself a fan. So I do watch a lot of the BBC shows. I get it. My mom starting to say it now. But you know, it’s at this point where I just accept that even though I don’t know if I quite agree. You know, I think I’m just a normal guy. But people tend to that that takes show. So I guess,
David Ralph [3:42]
come on, come on, you can see that. But when I was younger, I’m not. So I’m going a bit silvery now. But people used to say to me, you look just like you gone, especially when I was in America, people come up to me all the time. And he looked like you can’t do it like you’re gone. And he used to really annoy me. And I used to say, I can’t see you. And then every now and again, I’d kind of go, yo I can see what a saying there was there was there was some sort of glimmer, I was wearing certain color shirt or something like that. Like, they just sort of hit home to me. But now it’s gone. And people never say that I kind of think compliment. That was a compliment. Why didn’t I sort of pay on it a bit more. So people are saying that you don’t like Idris play up to it, sir.
Tayo Rockson [4:22]
Or, you know, Hugh Grant should be honored as compared to you. So I appreciate that way.
David Ralph [4:27]
The amount of people that say the same thing they say to him, did you know you? You look just like that podcaster chatbots, his name? What’s his name? And the amount of times up? And he says that? But no, yeah, you certainly do look like tire and you are the tire you are tired. You look like interests. That would be bizarre. If you didn’t look like who you’re supposed to be. That’d be very weird. But you are, you’re a man on a mission. And we connected over Facebook. And I sort of invited you on the show, because it sounded interesting. But it’s it’s on many different levels. And as I started digging down on it, the first thing that came to me was, wow, he’s been on a lot here. So tell the listeners, you know, I gave it in the introduction, but tell them in your words, what your mission is in life.
Tayo Rockson [5:16]
Right? Yeah, so my mission statement is, is this is it’s use your difference to make a difference. And the reason why it’s so important to me is because, you know, as you said, I grew up in four different continents, my background is my father’s as a diplomat. So we got to move around a lot. And something that I figured out, you know, as a Nigerian grown up in all these cultures was, was that a lot of times, you know, my identity was, was sort of a mix of wherever I was, and I say this a lot in my podcasts and what I write about it, you know, I’m a, essentially a third culture kid, and that is, I have my parents culture, you know, the culture of you know, who I am and the the mix of all the cultures that I tend to interact with. And then while sitting at a Arianna Huffington conference this early in the year, because I’m a huge fan of her, she was doing a conference for a book thrive. And she made just this one statement, she said, You know, my kids used to laugh at me because my accent sounded different. And anyone who knows that are in Huffington she, you know, she has that thick Greek, Greek accent. I kids grew up here. And you know, she went to school in England. And you know, she’s sort of been in different countries, but she’s got that American base. And it was it was meant to be a joke. She was talking, trying to make a point, but that statement just flew over my head. And I thought to myself, you know, I bet there are a lot of people that don’t look like they’re supposed to sound and don’t sound they’re supposed to look, I mean, I, I certainly don’t sound you know, you know, like a Nigerian, from what I least what people told me, but um, and I said, want to tap into the audience, I bet they’re a lot of people, they’re trying to figure out who their identity is. And I think I’ve been, you know, having lived that life myself, I feel like I can reach out to them. So I started researching. And I started reaching out to fellow global nomads and third culture kids, virtually across social media, and just dive right into my experience. And then to my surprise, people started to resonate on it. Because I remember as soon as I had heard Ariana, say that I wrote the title of my first ebook, just like I said, you know, I’m going to write an E book on this. So the more that people started to resonate with it, I said, why not, you know, create a podcast, ad knew nothing about podcasting. I just knew. You know, I had done a Skype then before with E cam. And I knew that podcasting was something that was growing. But so I just started interviewing all these people. And that by the time I started sending out invitations, people were saying, yes. And then when I got that first, yes, I got really scared, because I was like, Oh, my gosh, it’s real. This is real. So I just said, Yes. So I almost got another Yes, like two minutes after because I sent i think i sent 10 emails that day. And then I started to really realize that this is something that could die to actually build upon it.
David Ralph [8:17]
So I decided, can I just jump in there because I had a similar story. When I sent out my first email, and somebody came back, I felt exactly the same way as you. Oh, my God, I’m doing this now. And although you want it to happen, when it suddenly does happen, it’s frightening, isn’t it?
Tayo Rockson [8:33]
Yeah, no, it’s great. I mean, when I whenever I send an email, I told him, Hey, you know, I’m thinking of doing this this podcast interview, I’m launching in the fall, I just really wanted to get your thoughts on what it was like growing up in different cultures, I feel like other people will really learn from you. And I don’t feel like this is a topic that’s been talked about a lot. And I feel like, you know, global nomads have unique set of skills to be the next set of global leaders. And I just hit send, and then, you know, they will come back, say, Hey, you know, no one’s ever said that before. And then what? And then I’m like, yeah, yeah. How about next weekend? Well, yeah, sure. But, you know, it’s that way. It’s like, you know, in the Hollywood movies, when someone sends something, they get a response from the celebrity and they start freaking out in a pillow. So the person on the receiver can’t can’t see them scream of recap, that was me. And the Edit said before I said, the the email and saying, Yeah, yeah, we can do this. So I was so happy when that happened. And then I started getting to work. So the star like in June, and then since then, you know, I wrote the book, I had, you know, close to 20 interviews. And then I launched about two weeks ago. So you know, I made sure I had a blog post every week on an experience or profile someone and then just in time sit at the potluck podcast came it wasn’t like I was coming out left field without any experience. So
David Ralph [10:02]
So said well, you actually born in Nigeria then
Tayo Rockson [10:05]
is born in Lagos, Nigeria.
David Ralph [10:07]
So So you’ve got a bit of Lagos rhythm about you?
Tayo Rockson [10:12]
Yeah, it’s I do I’m, I was born in Lagos, Nigeria, you know, I’m 24. Now so I spent 12 years in Nigeria, and then you know, sort of moved around. In between dispersed there did actually, most of my cousins are actually British citizen. So that’s a and, you know, I don’t know if this is going to make me a fan of make me someone that you like less or more, but I’m a huge, huge match the United fan, so I don’t know. I don’t know, it seems support.
David Ralph [10:42]
I tired. I just feel sorry for you. I feel so many that it’s going bad for you. And you united fans are grappling around for the millions of pounds to buy these players. Not gonna work.
Tayo Rockson [10:56]
So well. Wait, wait, wait.
David Ralph [10:58]
Like you more. Because I you’re obviously not somebody who’s going for glory anymore. You’re going for a team that needs a little bit of help. And I respect you for that, sir.
Tayo Rockson [11:09]
Okay, okay. Well, a couple of days or on the way back? No, de Maria.
David Ralph [11:13]
Do you like me? That’s right.
Tayo Rockson [11:17]
yesterday. I’ve heard of you. What’s that?
David Ralph [11:20]
What he didn’t do against Burnley? Did he last week? Okay.
Tayo Rockson [11:24]
All right. Well, you know, I think I think Vanguard is the right guy for the job. I don’t know why we haven’t won yet. But I’m sure when this podcast comes, will be a you know, we’ll be right at the top table where we deserve to be
David Ralph [11:38]
the interesting thing about you, and it always interests me with Americans, especially sort of black Americans. They do this kind of thing. And that’s what Bill Cosby talking about it where they will say I’m African American. Now you were born in Africa. So once you’ve praise yourself as just African or do you say you’re African American aware that?
Tayo Rockson [11:59]
That’s very good. Good question, because I am just African only have that passport. But I get confused with African American all the time. I remember during the the Obama election, I was a junior in my undergrad. And I remember everybody going crazy after the election. And then I you know, I was just walking down the street to get something that had this random African American black guy come down me up and you know, give me the head. None of that. You know, I just I responded the same way. But I was thinking, you know, I can’t actually vote in his country. But you know, that’s cool. But, but the crazy thing is, whenever I tell someone I’m Nigerian, they always start to say, but you don’t speak Nigerian. And then I say, well, Nigerian is not a language. We speak English. We were colonized by
David Ralph [12:46]
Yang. What they’re talking about is the accent. Yeah, yeah.
Tayo Rockson [12:49]
Yeah. And yeah, I can see how that is. But it’s for me. That’s also an education opportunity. Because it’s they don’t expect because I will the next phone question is you English? You’re so good.
I get that was every two years. You’re so good. And I’m like,
David Ralph [13:10]
Okay. I know. They say coming from Nigeria, but you support Man United?
Tayo Rockson [13:17]
No, no, no. I mean, my I come from a family that I have. My dad is a Chelsea fan. Chelsea, my young. Yeah, I got to Chelsea fans to Man United fans. My mom sort of stays in between all of us. And then in La Liga we bought, we all support Real Madrid. So
David Ralph [13:38]
good team. So what’s fascinating about you, Ben, is not that you haven’t got identity. I know you’ve come up with this third culture kid. Was that something that you came up with? Or was it already out there? First of all,
Tayo Rockson [13:50]
no, it was already out there. I remember I found that out. About a year ago, it was a BuzzFeed article and it and it says 31 science, your third culture kid and then just lyst through a different things, you know, you think in different time zones, you you say because sometimes I say literally or you know or boot, because or trunk, you know, I always lift elevator, just a different type of things. And then you have different foods, certain smells remind you of something. So it’s, it was just something that I resonated with. And then it’s not as popular as global nomads, but it’s essentially what you know, anyone who spent the formative periods of their lives outside of their parents culture, that’s essentially what it is.
David Ralph [14:32]
Because you seem at peace, wherever you are talking to you. Now, if I said to you, are you African, you would say yes. But then obviously, there’s an American accent that’s coming out. But we I was listening to the show that you did yesterday, episode number three. And it was very interesting. It was a lady who went off to Singapore and Malaysia and grew up as a kid. And then when she came back to America, she actually was an American, because her phone years had been over there. And when she came back, her peer group, were all watching TV programs and talking about things when she wasn’t aware of. And she was very, very lonely. And she was thinking, you know, where do I fit in? But do you have that same issue? Or do you generally fit in quite naturally because of your outgoing personality? And I hate to say, again, you good looks?
Tayo Rockson [15:25]
Well, I’m I certainly had the same thing. And that’s part of what the challenge was I am. So for eighth grade I for Well, I guess it’s good elementary school, first I did, I made school Nigeria, then we first moved to Burkina Faso. A couple of things, there was a French speaking country. It’s also in West Africa. But I was my first time really, with international students. So I had Dutch, you know, British everyone. And then I had a really, really strong, strong Nigerian accent. And I felt really out of place that, you know, I was this skinny guy, I was 10 years old, didn’t really know how to speak French, or just, and the only sport I knew was football, soccer or football, I can never know which one to say football, since you’re a British football, i the only sport I knew was football. So it was really, really hard for me to fit in. So I, you know, I went through this phase where, you know, I was like, I wish I was different. But slowly I started to use, I was connected to one of three ways or three ways I use sports, huge sports, fan. Geography, I learned about cultures, I’m really pretty good with, you know, capitals of the world. And then that way, I sort of say, Hey, have you been here, and then they, they sort of, you know, identify with that, and then pop culture. So just because, you know, if you say you watched a movie or a TV show people like, or, you know, game people are like, wow, this guy really knows what he’s talking about. So I started to discover sports, I remember I picked up basketball, which I ended up becoming my favorite sport slightly ahead of soccer and tennis, I picked up basketball, went to the library, and started studying the history of the game, started to read the sport, the rules and everything. And then I read all the magazines tuned into ESPN whenever I could. And then, after I felt comfortable enough, I went up to the best basketball player in the school. And I said, Hey, would you mind teaching me how to play basketball, you know, this is after school. So I said yes. And then slowly that one, one game became, you know, 212, and three, and three, and I started to become more familiar with the game and I started making more friends. And as I started to make more friends started becoming more comfortable with with myself so that that sort of happened, because a nice this, I stay there for four and a half years. So it went from me being really lonely and really, really sad. And then going back to my mom and saying, Well, nobody likes me have no friends, to actually being able to be able to understand the different cultures. So all of a sudden, I had Dutch friends, German friends, you know, American friends, and then I knew how to play, you know, football, soccer, tennis, and every other sport. So that was good. And that was quite
David Ralph [18:17]
ballsy for you as and I imagine that as set you on a good path in an adult life, the ability to go up to a complete stranger and say, I need help. And you go up to the best basketball player in the school, who must have been sort of, you know, not cocky, but he must have known that he was pretty good. And he could have said to you go away, kid. I’ve got too much on my plate. But he said, No, I’m willing to help you. That’s a big learning curve. That is something I tried to get out to our listeners, that if you are looking for a path that isn’t naturally a path that you’re in at the moment, there are people across the globe through the internet, but you can reach out to them by an email, or by some kind of connection through Facebook, who will help you? And have you found that as you’ve gone through into adult life. Do you look back to that one moment? And thing? That was probably the scariest time as a kid going up to this chap?
Tayo Rockson [19:14]
Yeah, no, you don’t want your I find just to touch on what you’re saying. The worst thing anyone can says no. I mean, that’s really the worst. And then we can say, so I, I just figured out, you know, early on and you once you once you want to do something, just go ahead and do it. And the worst thing that can happen is no. And then you get the best teacher out of it, which is experience. So then you go on to the next thing I mean with podcasting with with making that friend was still a friend today. I just figured, why not ask. You’re never going to know anything unless you ask. And you’re so right. I often joke about how frightening Magellan was wrong, even though he sailed around the world. And that’s supposedly prove that the world was round that the world’s actually flat and that that’s because of digital media. That’s because of internet. And I’m it you can add to the I can talk to you right now on Skype. Because it’s fun, I can send you a message and you can send me a message on on Facebook and because it’s flat. So I do definitely subscribe it in motion. It’s just just do it like Nike would say,
David Ralph [20:21]
yeah, and no and no is nothing is it is two letters. But it is a dream killer. We all have those fears. We all have those self limiting fears. That person is not going to help me. I’m not going to connect with Tiger rocks him because he Why would he want to do anything with me? and blah, blah, blah. And when you actually do something I find more often than not, it never comes true. It’s in your head. But it never comes true. But it does route so many people to the spot.
Tayo Rockson [20:50]
Yes, it does. It does. Um, absolutely. I mean, I was probably my biggest fear in this process. So I and I started until this wouldn’t happen unless I started writing. And then I just said, You know what, I’m just gonna do the podcast. It’s much much like you’re doing a daily podcast, which isn’t as common in podcasting world, but I’m sure you probably had some fears like, Well, you know, can I sustain this? This is seven days a week, you know, I was thinking the same thing. No one’s talking about this, why? Maybe there’s a good reason why no one’s talking about it. Maybe there’s not an audience for this. But um, I just did it. And you know, so far, so good. And you know, if it ends up being bad, I’ll just tweak it and then continue to figure out a way to make an impact in the world. But it’s well, I will tell
David Ralph [21:37]
you, sir, it’s not bad. It’s very, very good. And I have only listened to Episode Three yesterday. But I have subscribed, there’s a professionalism to it. But I certainly didn’t have in my early shows, I probably still haven’t got it now. But you have it. You really are a good suck up person. I’m the man on a mission to suck up. And but have you scripted the shows? Do you did you know really what I wanted to do this at the beginning, I want to do this in the middle because I kind of knew, beginning, middle and end of the show. And I keep to that so that I can let it spin off in different directions? Did you do that? Or did you just press record in a way you went?
Tayo Rockson [22:19]
Well, you know, it’s like you add sort of a structure. And in the beginning, I want people to really understand. And I’m going to touch back. And you know, you said you listened to Episode Three of how she felt not less American, which came back home and talk from experience going back to Nigeria, but um, my structure is I want the audience to know who they’re who I’m talking to initially. So they usually talk about their background initially. And then, in the middle of the show, it’s more than meat, where they you know, they talked about some of the challenges, how they overcame challenges, and different pieces of advice. And then I sort of ended with a lighter note where favorite country, you know, people with the friendliest things or whatever. And then sometimes I asked them, to give their give a piece of advice to the 13 year old self. So it’s, you know, it’s like, intro into this guy, or lady. And then this is really how growing up was like, and how you can make an impact. And then these are some of the fun things I do. So that’s that’s usually how it starts.
David Ralph [23:20]
It goes your whole platform, and when I’m looking at it now, and it says a third culture kid using his difference to make a difference. And the pictures are great on there, it looks like a professional has done it. And the way that you click on it, and it moves around. It’s a fully realized blog. Did you have helped do that? Or did you do that all by yourself?
Tayo Rockson [23:44]
Well, it does the pictures. It just so happens, I was lucky enough to have you have one of my good friends, a photographer. So I you know,
I told him, Hey, you know, I’m thinking, a lot of things that I’ll tell the audience today that you need to have is visualization. So lot of these things, I took pictures I took and everything, I took them without it having interviewed or I haven’t done anything, but I was like, you know, I, this is going to happen in August, I need to have this theme. And let’s go. So I told him about the idea. I didn’t have the name of the podcast then. or any of the work. I said, Hey, you saw really want to reach out to the world. And I wanted to come across as you know, something like international man of you know, mystery, think of bond or something like that. And then he just went with that. And we sort of just went on shoot in New York City here where I live. And we went with that. In terms of the website, I use Squarespace. Squarespace allows you to use a lot of templates, though, I did get some help from a web designer, but it was Squarespace is pretty easy went and then sense that you don’t need to be savvy with a lot of HTML. So it’s just a lot of drag and drop. So it wasn’t that hard to do. That it’s technical in that sense. But yeah, and that was pretty much it. I just, I had the vision, I went with that. And then
like you said, just went ahead and did.
David Ralph [25:09]
What was the hardest thing that the vision or the passion
Tayo Rockson [25:15]
is, once I get the passion, I couldn’t stop. I mean, I’m up at 5am talking to you. So that’s got it, the passion is drives me to it to wake me up to the passion was there and it’s still there. So, you know, the passion drove me to write, I think I’m on my third book right now, in less than six months. And then I’ve done close to 20 interviews. So I it was more of raining in doubt, raining down what I needed to do, because I don’t know if you’re like this once I have an idea. And I feel like it’s something that can make an impact in my mind is always racing. So I think the biggest challenge for me was to sort of stay focused on my niche, a nice, niche audience, because there’s that saying, if you try to reach out to everyone, then you’re not really making an impact. So I had to train myself not to try and branch out to other things before it started, you know, I needed the proof of concept of it work, which has been enlightening, you know, the first couple of weeks, I needed to make sure I didn’t deviate from my interviews and say, Hey, well, you know, maybe I could talk about entrepreneurship and you know, digital marketing now, because I’m also a digital marketer, I needed to make sure that the passion was focused, and then rain, my passion and because there’s also something called work life balance, and needed to make sure I was taking care of myself. So that that that to me was the hardest part, the passion just naturally is part of who I am. So it was an extension. And I was just sort of excited about that. But
David Ralph [26:47]
know that you could do this, because our listeners are going to be out there and they’ve got their headphones on. And on the treadmill. We’re walking the dog, and they’re listening to this. And generally the only reason people listen to these kind of podcasts, but they’re not happy in their own life. For example, I can’t imagine multi millionaires buying lottery tickets. You know, once you get to that, yeah, why would you look elsewhere? And I was interviewing a chap last night, and he’s names on your website, just seen it g topology, and he was on the show last night. I know, you know, you know, Jay and I just saw his name. But this is strange. Yeah, I spoke to him last night. So he’s gonna be on the show. And I said to him, you know, when he decided to do his thing, how did you go about it? And he said, basically, I wrote down three things I liked. And Ben thought, could I do them? Simple as bad? So he like basketball? Could I make money at a basketball or don’t think so? I like web developing couldn’t Oh, yeah, I could do that. And I like teaching people right there. My two things. And he just did bows. And it seemed incredibly simple, but incredibly powerful way of starting, when you have that vision. And for most of us have a vision, which is too big. He’s kind of like, Yes, I want to have a squealing listeners a day, and I want to be on The Tonight Show every night and all that kind of stuff. But you start small and then you start working. So as g8 did, was there a similar concept to how you actually got this going?
Tayo Rockson [28:17]
On? Okay, so Wow, yeah, Jesus, great guy. But for me, it was once I realized they had a voice and then I and then I went with it. Because before this, I had been trying, I’ve always been on digital marketing, I was blogging and entrepreneurship, that’s it, I interviewed G, I was my platform was to interview young entrepreneurs, like myself, people, you know, 30 and under, um, but, you know, I came across a nine. And the other thing that I wanted to do was be an athlete, I always wanted to be an athlete. So, as soon as I realized that, you know, with the entrepreneurship, then there are a lot of people doing that, and there wasn’t anything unique that I was bringing to the table, and what sports, you know, I’m really passionate about it, I often joke that that’s my first low, but I wasn’t, you know, experienced enough to be able to come at it from a point of view that would that would help an audience you know, I had to figure out the difference between passion and technical know how. So when I found that third culture kid, then I realized, you know, I have over 20 years of experience, this actually have personal experience that I can I can relate to, this is not something that I have to fake or after, you know, necessarily study, this is something that I’ve lived. So that realization that, you know, I’m actually an expert in this, I have a voice in this, I can talk, I could talk to something, I think, once that realization came, I was like, I can really teach, I can really talk about this, I can go to personal experiences, I can talk to my friends. And realizing that I have something in a platform to use that to I said, You know what, I am going to come at this from bomb, you know, some of the expenses have had and some of the peep friends I’ve made. And being one of the 7 billion people I’m unique in the sense that I have my unique take on that. Yeah, so yeah, I realized that I was like,
David Ralph [30:08]
Hey, I’m stupid, dumb enough, is enough, stupid. But yeah, you can always experience in you, you can do it easily, because you believed it for 20 years. There’s people out there that want this content, and you’re providing it to them, you can do it easily, because it’s just in you. But still, what we try to do as humans, is try to replicate what somebody else is doing. Even if it’s not a natural fit. Exactly.
Tayo Rockson [30:37]
I always say, you know, it’s a lot easier to probably be yourself than to try and be like a lot of people. I mean, that’s 6,990,000,000
David Ralph [30:48]
babies. Yeah, it is totally easy. If I say, live your life today, exactly as you would like to do it. I meant that by the time you go to bed tonight, you would go Yeah, I was pretty authentic to myself.
Tayo Rockson [31:01]
Exactly. And that’s why we say that’s why I’m saying use your difference to make a difference. And to your audience. Anyone out there saying, well, Tayo and David, what are they talking about? They know how to use online media platform. It doesn’t even have to be an online thing. I mean, someone could have hit someone could have. This is lady lady called Lindsey Stirling. So she uses the violin.
David Ralph [31:20]
And she does covers of different artists on YouTube. And she started doing this violent things. No one was using the violin to make music that way. But she started doing this and started gaining all these views on YouTube. And she started getting the attention of all these big main artists, and all of a sudden, now she has this platform, she has all these different ways to make money, but it’s because she used her gift, or you know, to just do something, someone could have a pension or something for, for maybe jewelry or arts and crafts. And they can use that and parlay that to an audience and in a way that they could never have done without the without internet internet, like I said, connects you and everyone. So if you have a passion, just go ahead and try and make that into something. It could be writing a blog, you have mom bloggers now. And that’s a big thing. And people are tuning in and reading this. Mom blogs because they want it. They just want to hear what these moms have to say. But no one would have said that’s a big market five years ago. But someone someone out there said, I’m a mom, there are other moms out there. I want to talk about what mom is like, and then that’s what it is. So I mean, you could be the same thing for anyone in England, or Nigerian anything, it could be something that you are unique, something you’ve noticed, and you could be the voice for that. And it’s just a matter of us doing it. Did you know what we say on this show? I’m going to tell you anyway, we’ve got a tagline, it says connecting our pasts to build our future. And we stumbled across this early on. And I haven’t mentioned it for a few shows. Because I started repeating it once it really I created that phrase, just because I needed a tagline. And I was doing it. I thought oh my god, this is true. And it is over people that are successful in life, end up doing the stuff that they love doing as kids. And so if you was as a child, he was interested about helping people you was interested about traveling, you was interested about different cultures, you was interesting about looking at what’s around that corner in that street in that strange town? Why does that person say these things? Why does that person think those things, whether the people look that way, all those kinds of stuff. When you take it to adulthood, you’ve already got your path, you’ve already got your passion, you’ve got your platform, you just have to throw it online, if that’s the way you want to do. And I do think online is easier. You know, I’ve set up this show. And I’ve done it, you know, hardly any money at all really bear in mind the audience because and that is going so global. You couldn’t do that. So we’re brick and mortar. But I look at myself and I think, yeah, this is pretty much what I was doing. When I was a youngster. Why did I add so many years doing other stuff? Why was I trying to be who I wasn’t when ultimately, the best version of David Ralph is the one that I do. Because I’m I’m an expert in being myself tire. I know, you know,
Tayo Rockson [34:09]
that is true. That is true. You may know exactly true. You know, when we’re a kids were very, very, very, we have all these dreams on be astronauts on everything. And then we grow up we have this this curse of being realistic, which is something I say what it building a movement says this, it doesn’t it’s not realistic that I can fly in a metal that takes me across different continents, you know, if if there was and you know, talking to airplane there, if there was a, if that person was realistic, he would not have said, Hey, I’m going to make this object that defies gravity. But we have this curse of being a gosh, okay, I have to grow up to do this. But why? Why? Why lose your dreams? what’s what’s the Why don’t dare to be different? You know, there’s the world as is that you feed me? Yeah, but these endless possibilities. It’s, it’s, it’s really up to you to really tap into that you could be that Facebook came out of, you know, all these little people daring to be different. And it’s just up to you, Elon Musk, all the I mean, I could go on that, you know, all these, all these entrepreneurs and everything that people are saying, they probably thought they were crazy initially when they came up, but they dared to follow their dreams. And that’s really an important thing. It’s, it’s you have to be willing to follow your dream. And be willing to be yourself and while you’re following your dreams, because it’s it’s really amazing some of the things that could happen, whether it’s good or bad.
David Ralph [35:37]
I’m going to play a little speech now, which I’m going to start throwing on the show. It is something I’ve alluded to over the time, but this is Rocky Balboa. And is it something he said in Rocky six? And I think it emphasizes what we’re saying is that, yes, you’ve got to find your path, you’ve got to find your passion. But it’s not an easy thing to do. We’re trying to give you the clues on this show. But look inside yourself. But you’re gonna do stumble, you’re gonna do falls, you’re going to try things that actually aren’t you, you’re going to waste money, you’re going to do all these kind of things, until naturally you look at it. And thank God, I should have been doing this right at the very beginning. What was I thinking about? So listen to this, this is Rocky Balboa,
Unknown Speaker [36:15]
yo, me and nobody
Unknown Speaker [36:17]
is gonna hit as hard as life.
Unknown Speaker [36:19]
But it ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward, how much you can take a keep moving forward. That’s how we did it is done.
David Ralph [36:31]
Now that’s a very short clip. But it’s true, isn’t it? You know, if we’re in this conversation now, we didn’t just press a button and get it going overnight. It’s taken was taken me about five years to get here. I don’t know how long it’s taken you. But do you look at certain progressions that you’ve made? But you think to yourself? Yes, it didn’t quite work at the time, but I wouldn’t be here without it.
Tayo Rockson [36:54]
Mm hmm. I remember, sorry about that. My alarm keeps going up. I’m so the when I was 13, a ad, they asked if they had an exercise that we supposed to ask ourselves, and it was, what is it that you want to do in the world. And I remember, I completely forgot about it until I did introspect it, then it was make people happy. That was my conclusion. That was something I’d said when I was 13, the 12. And then I completely forgot about that. Fast forward to 17 year old self, I came to the states for the first time. And then I started working for this nonprofit. And then I worked and it was basically trying to help people with will, who will less privileged to, you know, have educate them about HIV AIDS, and also education systems and Broadway. Then I moved on to none, nonprofit. And then I, when I started working in the real world, it was, I was working in a software company. But then what really brought me joy was given pieces of advice to my friends, and just writing stories, because I’ve always just been a storyteller. But not at this. I didn’t connect any of this until earlier in the year when I started writing on this third culture, kid experience and what it’s like to be a global leader, and how you can connect to different people in the world. And it’s it started started all the, you know, he said the past and the future started to make sense. It’s connecting with people really important to me, reaching out to a global world and making sure that that the best version of themselves really important to me. How do I tie that in? Well, it’s, it’s in your experience, title, because you’re you’ve lived in four different continents, you’ve seen how different people interact with different things, you know, what it’s like to have to go back home, or we are a concept of home, and how that can be sometimes tough and how that can be an education opportunity. Why not write about these things, this is something that’s natural to you. And there’s probably someone out there, who’s a younger version of yourself was figuring is trying to figure out how to fit in, in the global environment, you can talk to that, because you’ve lived it. And that that will probably make that person happy. And I remembered, I said that when I was 13, I want to make someone happy. I wanted to make people happy, I want to bring smiles to people’s faces. And that’s exactly how I feel when I get these long essays from people that read my blog post and saying, Yeah, sometimes the older than me, a lot of times I see most of them older than me, which is what surprised me the most, it’s the power of written word. They say, you know, I was struggling with this growing up, I, you know, I come back, I came back home, and then people don’t really understand what it’s like to actually have to wrestle with your inner conflict about who you should be. And then I read that that blog post that you wrote, and it really, really resonate with me. And now I feel like, it’s okay to be myself and something like that. And that. That is why I do it, David, just so that I can bring that smile on someone’s face. And that’s what it all boils down to the 13 year old version of myself said, want to make people happy, and bring the smile people’s faces, I tried to do that.
David Ralph [40:04]
That is perfect, isn’t it that is really connecting the dots. I found a book The other day, I found some tapes recently where me and my mate when we were about nine used to do interviews, and we used to set it up with a little microphone and press record and he was the guest and I was the host. And then we would swap over and we would do city voices and all that kind of stuff. And I found these tapes, and you don’t generally have tapes anymore. And I thought, well, what’s on here and I put them on, and I could hear my little nine year old voice doing it. And I listened to it. And I thought I remember doing that. And I remember how much pleasure I got doing back. Then we were cleaning out the loft. And I found some old school books of mine. And it was what do you want to be when you grow up? And I said, I want to be a chat show host, which I don’t even remember ever writing this. But it was better in my writing. And when I was on holiday recently, and somebody said to me, you know, what do you do for a living? And I’ve realized recently, if I say podcaster they go What? What once was a podcast, I got no idea. So I’ve started saying online chat show host and like Oh really, you know, has fascinating. And I realized when I was saying it, it makes me personally feel happy. I’ve kind of connected something, but I’m actually doing what I’d forgotten over 25 years, but I should be doing. And I don’t say to people because I don’t know, it’s it seems a bit cocky in certain way, right right now. But when somebody says it to me, what do you do for a living? And I say online chat show host. I love it. I love it. It feels Yeah, make me light up. I’m smiling now as I say it. So I’m obviously touching into my core essence.
Tayo Rockson [41:41]
No, I agree. And that’s, that’s why I often said it’s very important for us not to lose dream herself as kids because it kids, we believe we can do anything. And then we have this curse of being realistic. So we need to make sure that we stay on that path. Just because the amount of things that can happen if we really follow a passion. It’s phenomenal. I mean, you don’t want there a lot of people that they go and get the degree they’re supposed to get or go to the job they’re supposed to do and do the things that they’re all quote unquote supposed to do. But then they don’t have that inner satisfaction, you know, then you hear the make the money that might make the six figure salary. But then there’s always that long, you know, that search for something else that they wish they had done. And then you hear them say like, you know, I had that idea that Mark Zuckerberg had when I was 17. I just didn’t think it was going to work out. And then you know, people say stuff like your time, but it’s no, you want to kick yourself in the butt. If you didn’t
David Ralph [42:44]
do bow go because you’ve said this a couple of times. As an adult, we accept realism. But do you not find that we don’t accept our realism? We accept other people’s realism? Oh, absolutely. And we kind of get serious into a world where other people think is right for us, which once again, now are broken free from that. And I did that for years and years and years as well. I got a job that I thought was a good job because other people told me it was a good job. And I did best because people told me it was a good career and stuff. And I look back now and I think you’re a lunatic. I’ve wasted wasted Well, I hadn’t really wasted because there were certain things I learned as I was doing it. But I look back on it now. And I think why was I doing that. And so I say to my son now, when you leave school, and he’s 12. Now I say when you leave school, you know, it’s up to you to create, it’s up to you to grab hold of your future. And if you want to be something and you want to be it with so much passion, so much enthusiasm, don’t let one person say to you, you can’t do it. And I was reading on holiday recently, I’m dreams of my father Barack Obama’s biography. And if you haven’t read it, Tayo you should do because it’s very much about him trying to find his identity. And being a growing up in in Hawaii, and then being taken to Kenya to try to link the dots. And what was fascinating with him, he was like 2324, and he was still getting drunk and getting stoned. And all those kind of things, where you kind of think that a president, if you saw him as a five year old would be like a little president walking around in a suit and being very official and so serious. But he took so much time as well to find his path and find the film that he should be doing. So it’s it’s so difficult, but so easy as well, isn’t it?
Tayo Rockson [44:31]
Yeah. And brock obama serves a third college kid, he’s on the examples of that. So not and it all comes down to this. So David, this is why I love when I create this mission statement. It’s it’s use your difference to make difference. Everyone is inherently inherently different, I mean, wall, the same necessity for the human race, but everyone has something unique about them. And you know, you got to use that, that difference to make a difference in some way. So I couldn’t agree with you more.
David Ralph [44:58]
Did you think Barack Obama has used his third culture difference? of positive effect?
Tayo Rockson [45:08]
And that was starting to get touchy, because the politics can be a little different. But, uh, if I’m going to be as very politically neutral as I could be here. Yes. I mean, I would say yes. Because a lot of times when, when he’s interacting with all these different presidents that, you know, you have all these different reactions here in America and in the world, because they might feel like he’s been submissive or something like that. But I know, he grew up partly in Indonesia and other countries. And it’s May I think, it’s just his understanding of maybe what’s accepted there. So he, he tries to do you know, what the culture normally accepts as the norm. And that’s sometimes perceived as not being firm enough is resolved. But I think he does, you know, and his way, because I think that that makes him essentially a good diplomat. But you know, I don’t know enough about his inner workings to see if he as he does that. I imagine it led to him becoming brave enough to run for for office, as a mixed, mixed American, you know, is the first mixed America I like the same mix. Because I know people say black but um, yeah, as a white side, too. So, you know, the first real true biracial president. So I imagine he did that in some way. And that led to that as a second term. So must have
David Ralph [46:36]
because I asked you that question, because you said you couldn’t vote yourself. And I can’t vote in America. So I see it from an outsider’s point of view. But when I was reading his biography, I thought to myself, he has got global experience here, he’s got an understanding of different cultures, but must help him out in in that situation.
Unknown Speaker [47:00]
Ya know, it probably does. And, you know, the thing is,
Tayo Rockson [47:03]
this is why it is I really want us to embrace ego identity a lot. We live in a world that’s that that hates change. I hate to say this, but it’s true. I mean, if you look at all the, the wars and everything, it’s the real fundamental cause of all these things is because they’re afraid of change, or someone is different from them, they have a different religion. That’s just a real fundamental. And in Nigeria, where I’m from, you have, you know, Muslims and Christians having different problems, you have the unfortunate incident with the girls that are kidnapped, they’re still haven’t gotten back home, by you know, Islamic extremists, but people are afraid of change. And it’s, people can’t, it’s like that if they don’t embrace that, it’s they don’t understand something that anything. So instead, they feel like they have to get rid of that Hitler did the same thing. But um, I guess in this case, he’s had that different experience where he’s seen different people. And it’s often sometimes it’s not received as, as well as it could be. or other times, it’s like, hey, this guy really, actually went the extra mouth. He doesn’t think he’s better than me. So, you know, it’s really depends on what our open minded you are. And now anyone can actually understand what you’re trying to do.
David Ralph [48:21]
And is it just open mindedness? Or is it courage? You said a key statement, he had the courage to run for office. Now I look at your your mission. And I think it’s hugely courageous because it’s bigger than I could comprehend. I look at that. And I think my God, this, this chaps really taking on something here. He’s not just creating a podcast. He’s not just creating a blog. He’s creating a movement, he’s creating a suppose a political movement in certain ways. That’s it does that scare you when you look at that, and you actually know what you want to achieve? And the fact that you are on the first road to achieving that, you know,
Tayo Rockson [49:00]
when I wrote it down,
I said to myself, this is really something that is a lot bigger than me, but you know, what I wasn’t, I was intimidated, because I feel like when I’m saying building the next set of global leaders is I’m encouraging other people to think the same way. And my thinking by them thinking the same way they can influence other people. And that that is what I’m trying to do. It’s like you said movement. I’m, I’m not I’m not afraid of the the enormity of it. But I think what attracts me what draws me is the power of the human spirit. One of my favorite books is the alchemists, you were talking about Obama’s book there, but the alchemist is all about, you know, this guy, chasing his personal journey. paga Paulo Coelho does a good job of showing how he you know, he overcomes different, different, you know, Nori norms and whatever you’re supposed to do, and eventually finds out what his personal journeys. And so I get influenced by these kind of things, and not and I’m saying into myself, if I impact one or two people, I feel like I’ve done my job. Because then they can go ahead and do the same thing. And I do I get it. Correct me and I see this courageous. I mean, I just feel like it’s something I’m supposed to do. I think that’s the best way I can say it. I almost feel like it’s a disservice. I’m not doing it. I feel like it’s my mission to make the world a better place than it was before I came here. So if, if I, you know, I’m only meant to live once I’m doing myself in the world of the service by existed in it without actually doing anything. So I feel like this is my calling. I’m just following what I’m supposed to do. So it’s not scary in that sense. It’s just me saying, it’s just me Be brave enough to follow my dreams. That’s what I think.
David Ralph [50:49]
And how do you monetize that a moment? Have you got a sort of nine to five job and you’re doing it the fact that you’ve got up at five o’clock in the morning or probably earlier than that? To get on the show?
Tayo Rockson [50:58]
Oh, yeah, you heard the alarms go at it me freaking out about oh, my goodness, I committed to this. I don’t know if I’m gonna wake up. So I had several alarm set up, and I forgot about them. And I
because I wasn’t gonna wake up. Um, I’m currently getting my MBA and I do some consulting for startup. But uh, so right now, you know, podcast in a wake up at all times. My days are, you know, they usually long so. Man, do you love it? Oh, yeah, I love it. Exactly. It doesn’t feel like work. I mean, I, I, if I give, I have a 40 hour, 40 hour week job for classes, I graduated in May for my MBA, and then I do podcasts and, and then I write as well, I write a weekly blog. So which comes out to two blog posts a week. So that usually gives me and then I, you know, I’m very avid fitness guy, so. So that’s almost 12 to 14 hours a day. So I had to tell the boys now’s the day, I’m also the social chair on campus, which means I helped plan the event. So I do all these things. But like you said, you know, doesn’t feel like work, because I love what I’m doing. And I think the mission that I have is something that I’m really committed to. So
David Ralph [52:17]
I’m gonna, I’m going to clap, I’m going to clap. And I’ve never done this on the air we go, there’s a clap. But I think you need to be applauded, because so many people out there and I hear people and I go, Oh, I haven’t got time. And I go, you’ve got time, you have got time, you can go earlier, you can go to bed later, you have got time, it’s whether you want to enough, and you obviously want it enough. Exactly. At the beginning, when I was setting this up, I was working stupid hours. Now it’s got a lot easier. And I’m not sure if it’s got easier, because I’m just better at doing it. So I can streamline a lot of things. But it was you know, people said to me, You look dreadful. David, I was gone. Now he’s just you know, I’m setting these things up. But although I was feeling dreadful, and looking dreadful, I stood up doing it. And I you know, I would I would run off to my office, every opportunity to be able to do that. So now a big round of applause for your time, because I do think that you are somebody on a mission, and you actually put in the effort in to actually make that mission come true. So what I want to do, I want to play the words of Steve Jobs, because that is the theme of the show the connecting of the dots. So I’m going to play his words now. And I think we’ve already alluded to the fact that you do feel that this is going to be true to your life. But this is Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs [53:28]
Of course, it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards, 10 years later. Again, you can’t connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future, you have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leaves you off the well worn half. And that will make all the difference.
David Ralph [54:03]
So there’s that faith, that ability to go off that path and create a future which is all yours and is I suppose in many ways, unexpected path, other people will look at it and go, Why the hell is he doing this? How is this gonna work? How is he going to monetize blah, blah, blah? Does that fill you with pride, but you’re actually doing that in the same way that Steve Jobs achieved greatness by doing his own thing? Or is it something where, because you’re so involved in doing it, you don’t really get a chance to reflect?
Tayo Rockson [54:35]
reflecting something I’ve started to do more, I realized I wasn’t doing a good job with that, because my mind is always racing. So now as I’m reflecting I, you know, I the realization that I come to is, is what you said earlier? If you want it bad enough, you would you do it. And you said you’re working long hours. And I’m immediately reminded of a quote or something it says, If you want it as bad as you as you need to breathe, then if you don’t want it as bad as you need to breathe, and you’re in, you’re not doing the right thing. So whenever someone from the audience is coming in saying, I have this job, or I have that job, I can’t do this, I can’t do that. It’s like what Confucius said, He says he can and he says he can’t are both usually right. You know, it’s, it’s really up to you to really make the hours and it’s all about your priorities. If it’s as important to you as it is, as you say it is you will fit the time in and it will happen. So I’m very reflective of that. And that and I just what I come to realize is that I need to really make time for what’s important for me and what’s actually making me develop personally, and grow. And that’s what I try to focus my days on anything that makes me grow.
David Ralph [55:55]
So what we’re saying, really, for the listeners to summarize the show, and I don’t really ever summarize I let it or hang whichever way it lands is a you’ve got to really look inside yourself and find the thing that excites you be you’ve got to put the effort in. See, you’ve got to really show courage and break out from your comfort zone, whether it’s asking for help or speaking to people that you wouldn’t, or just trying new things. And the last one, I suppose is, as rocky was saying, you’ve got to allow yourself to fail is not going to work. First go every time. It’s going to be something that when you look back, you can go Yes, I can see where I got here is because that one didn’t quite work. And that one didn’t quite work. That one didn’t quite work. But yes, I pulled all those dots, all those failures, all those successes together. And I’ve made something that is uniquely me. Is that about right?
Tayo Rockson [56:51]
That is right. And that is why Ladies and gentlemen, David Ralph has been voted the sexiest man in England.
David Ralph [56:56]
Oh, yeah. Just at the end of the show. Yes. And cuz I asked you who was the sexiest man in the UK just so that I could test the audio quality or the sexiest person in the UK? And shall we say who you said,
Unknown Speaker [57:10]
uh, you know, I said
Tayo Rockson [57:15]
I said Keira Knightley initially, but I was thinking okay, back itself.
David Ralph [57:19]
Yeah, you say that that’s the bad thing when you’re, you’re with one woman and you’re thinking of another one?
Tayo Rockson [57:26]
I’m not like that. But uh, but the right answer is David, Ralph, thank you.
David Ralph [57:32]
Thank you so much, and sign photos can be sent to anyone. Right? Just before we say goodbye to you, this is part of the show when I send you back in time, like a young time traveler, and this is the Sermon on the mind. And I’m going to play the theme tune. And while it’s playing you will with back in time. And if you could land in a room and meet the young tire, what age tire would you want to talk to? And what advice would you give? Well, we’re gonna find out now, because this is the Sermon on the mic.
Unknown Speaker [58:04]
Here we go. With the best beer on the show.
Tayo Rockson [58:22]
young young tile. Remember, in that bus ride, when you said you were going to go ahead and make people happy? Well, this is 24 year old version talking to you right now. If you stay on course, and stay true to who you are, you will definitely achieve that. There’s no need to be someone else. And it’s almost a disservice. Actually, not almost it is a disservice to be like someone else you were born the way you are. So use that. Because a lot of people are going to resonate with with that and appreciate the fact that you’re not trying to be someone else that our show is going to make you look, gentlemen, continue to work hard. Make sure you study your geography because it’s going to come in and help you out. And you’ve chosen the right team to support in the Premiership. Don’t let any what anyone else says because you’re going to end up winning the trouble in 1999. So good job with that. But Tayo stay true to yourself. Remember the importance of being being very different. Being different is is not a bad thing. It’s actually what you meant to do. And always, always treat people the way you want to be treated. I can’t stress that enough. There’s no one that’s better than anyone and it you should never be condescending to anyone because you never know who in the future can come back and help you and you never know how. Who’s watching and what kind of example you said it. So be yourself. treat people the way you want to be treated. Stay Man United fan.
David Ralph [1:00:03]
I’m going to do a bit of time travel myself now. So I’m going to play a quick burst. Go back in time. No, actually, I’ve gone in the future. And the 60 year old Tayo I’m sorry that your team has been relegated to seven times in the last 10 years. And you actually a non League club now. So um, if anybody remembers Manchester United in the glory times it’s gone. Choose choose a different club. See, see. See how powerful time travel is. I can go forward and I can go back as well.
Tayo Rockson [1:00:32]
You know what?
I’m gonna do it. I’m not gonna do it. I was gonna prove you wrong. And all the players, Rooney team members is gonna be healthy this year. Now we’re in the future Rooneys gone.
Oh, gosh. He’s got a fine. Okay. Okay, seven years. I made the right decision. Man U is the greatest club. We have a clone of Sir Alex Ferguson, who’s won 15 championships
David Ralph [1:01:06]
stick with your passion Tayo stick with your passion. This is the most bizarre end of a show I’ve ever had. But how can ou